Warning about new Nvidia 4090 scam just hit the market

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northwestrepair

northwestrepair

Күн бұрын

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@HELLCAT.28
@HELLCAT.28 27 күн бұрын
And the hope is gone. Magical.
@MiriadCalibrumAstar
@MiriadCalibrumAstar 27 күн бұрын
And the 2nd mansion came. Magical.
@Rmm1722
@Rmm1722 27 күн бұрын
Wow 😅
@northwestrepair
@northwestrepair 20 күн бұрын
@@MiriadCalibrumAstar 🤣
@HarmonRAB-hp4nk
@HarmonRAB-hp4nk 10 күн бұрын
if the rest of the card is fine you just need to solder memory and a new di on? hmmm how much was that card?
@hamster1zombie170
@hamster1zombie170 27 күн бұрын
That's beyond horrible. I hope the buyer didn't pay too much 😢
@northwestrepair
@northwestrepair 27 күн бұрын
About 200 bucks 😅
@billedwardz
@billedwardz 27 күн бұрын
​@@northwestrepair Well, I think we found one way to tell it's fake without looking at it.
@hamster1zombie170
@hamster1zombie170 27 күн бұрын
@@northwestrepair 😅😅
@--_DJ_--
@--_DJ_-- 27 күн бұрын
I paid that much for a used 5700xt during the rona. You are scamming yourself buying anything modern at that price, let alone a 4090.
@fleurdewin7958
@fleurdewin7958 27 күн бұрын
@@northwestrepair This is a good example of , " You pay peanuts, you get monkeys " . But now the question is, does the fake AD102 core , which you identify as a GA102 3080Ti actually works ??
@u9Nails
@u9Nails 27 күн бұрын
Only a tiny bit better than buying a 4090 and getting a brick in the box.
@Francois_Dupont
@Francois_Dupont 26 күн бұрын
i guess if you are a scammer its a 100% good way to make it pass. nobody would remove the chips or have that knowledge to know its a fake.
@Steamrick
@Steamrick 26 күн бұрын
I'd consider it worse. If you get a brick at least you immediately know what's up without the blood, sweat and tears of trying to troubleshoot a dud.
@Battleneter
@Battleneter 27 күн бұрын
Reminds me of the fake L2 cache chip sandal on motherboards in the late 1990's.
@_droid
@_droid 27 күн бұрын
Heh, I got burned by that one. I still have a Cyrix 5x86 (or something) on a motherboard with all fake cache. The market was so saturated with counterfeits that I stopped buying parts completely until it settled down. Of course then we got hit with the bad capacitors not long after.
@oOignignoktOo1
@oOignignoktOo1 26 күн бұрын
@@_droidAtleast with cap plauge if you got soldering skills it's easy to replace the junk parts but it shouldn't have happened in the first place.
@-MaXuS-
@-MaXuS- 24 күн бұрын
Wait what!?🤨 Sure I was merely a teenager at that time..NONETHELESS I was still very interested in PC hardware. And even though it, for whatever reason, at least felt like the general release cadence of CPUs was a lot shorter. While it also very much felt like even recently launched products could get updated/upgraded/improved just as soon as they hit the damn store😳shelves😥😳.. OH!, and on a little side note, or tangent if u will and just a small, tiny one at that☺️.. So this formative time period in my life just so happens to be how, why and when I was forever instilled with a constant state of perpetual 😲f.o.m.o🤤. At least that’s what I’ve been telling myself since..🤔since..well since as of writing this comment I suppose😌. Anyhoo..What I was trying to get at before I digressed with that, at least somewhat, legitimate 😲s.o.p.f.o.m.o🤤 tangent I was gonna say that considering that I was not only alive but also very much (🤔well at least arguably so) semiconscious and/or even possibly semi-aware...of computer(s) and stuff. Well considering all that☝️🙄 written up there about back then. *TLDR* I can confidently say that I’m so much less of an idiot now than I was back then that your story about motherboards with fake sandals on them would just be such an embarrassingly🥹obvious😆…😳..🤔hang on a minute this is even more insane than I initially thought…because what..eh..I mean why would…OKAY, I guess what I’m trying to ask you about is what’s the real world difference between a real and a fake chip sandal on a motherboard? And, I do apologize but this is definitely the very, very last thing! It’s absolutely amazing if you’ve actually stuck with it till now🤯but🙏 Now, to that lastly thing then🧐.. 🤨why would anyone think to not only get the somewhat novel..let’s say, idea to put a chip sandal on motherboards..BUUUT they’d even go above and beyond that..idea..and in what might be the most brilliant stroke of genius in this entire endeavor, if I’m to believe it at all that is, which😑was to use fake ones🤨. Dude..I mean, to be honest it’s not really clear to me why someone would go through all the labor of producing motherboards with chip sandals and to then, allegedly, go ahead use fake ones..? It doesn’t make sense when even putting a real chip sandal already sounds like a huge gamble to me why ruin what minute potential for success they woulda had by sticking to the real deal. Were the 90’s just the hangover decade from the decadent decade of coke that numerically lined🤭(no pun intended) up with that of the 80’s, why yes, yes was. 90’s wacky sure but..hmm fake chip sandal crazy..? I don’t know man 🤷‍♂️
@hi-friaudioman
@hi-friaudioman 27 күн бұрын
The fact that china itself by law cannot buy any 4090 chips from the US should say something...
@jamiecruickshank9697
@jamiecruickshank9697 27 күн бұрын
They are removing the 4090 cores from these boards to use in AI training servers. The populate them onto a Server style PCB.
@XantheFIN
@XantheFIN 27 күн бұрын
Why ever they would buy from US? They have factories building nVidia cards in China where they can get easily them and near by countries. The whole US thing is total joke and i am from Europe.
@jamiecruickshank9697
@jamiecruickshank9697 27 күн бұрын
@@XantheFIN They aren’t buying from the US, China is buying completed 4090 Graphics cards and removing the cores and RAM. They are repurposed into AI Server cards and the stripped PCB ends up for sale on the Chinese used market. People in the US and Europe are buying these parts boards to scam people.
@freefall_910
@freefall_910 27 күн бұрын
Yep they have many pawn countries
@keselekbakiak
@keselekbakiak 27 күн бұрын
​@@XantheFIN All of NVIDIA main chip is manufactured in taiwan.
@travisolander4749
@travisolander4749 26 күн бұрын
This happened to me!!! AMAZON! I bought one of these exact cards a few weeks ago. Arrived with obvious re-taping of the clear wrap. Looked it over and immediately realized it had been taken apart. Bent heat shield, tiny piece of non-original solder over-spray. Core obviously wrong. Sent it back and thankfully got a refund.
@northwestrepair
@northwestrepair 26 күн бұрын
@@travisolander4749 these bastards dare to sell on Amazon lol
@travisolander4749
@travisolander4749 26 күн бұрын
@@northwestrepair Cant believe it. Never buying anything off Amazon that costs more than $100 ever again. Getting a refund was a journey through management.
@danmerillat
@danmerillat 24 күн бұрын
@@northwestrepair amazon's a perfect place to scam because they pool skus - your fraudulent 4090 goes into the same bin with the real ones, and when a legit seller sells product the stocker grabs your fake one to send and the legit store gets dinged for the return.
@noanyobiseniss7462
@noanyobiseniss7462 23 күн бұрын
@@northwestrepair Amazon protects scammers as long as they get their cut.
@runforitman
@runforitman 19 күн бұрын
​@@northwestrepair that but also returns. Amazon dont properly check that what people return actually contains what was sent
@cemsengul16
@cemsengul16 26 күн бұрын
The amount of effort they went into faking this 4090 is ridiculous.
@ToTheGAMES
@ToTheGAMES 26 күн бұрын
The board seems real tho, just the most important parts that are fake 😅
@ArtisChronicles
@ArtisChronicles 25 күн бұрын
​​@@ToTheGAMES Hence it was high effort just to scam someone
@anhduc0913
@anhduc0913 25 күн бұрын
​@@ArtisChronicles It's an leftover board. Companies(likely non-chinese) bought the gpu, take out the ddr6 and the dice for their rigs, and then sell the board for scrap. Chinese guy bought the scrap, bought old gpu dice, transplant it on with fake prints and sell it.
@locutusvonborg2k3
@locutusvonborg2k3 25 күн бұрын
@@anhduc0913 they bought dice ? xD
@m.l.9385
@m.l.9385 22 күн бұрын
@@ToTheGAMES I guess labourers in a Chinese sweatshop are cheap...
@jonnygudman1815
@jonnygudman1815 27 күн бұрын
Anyone who thinks, that you can get a card like this for 200 bucks, also thinks that fried chickens can lay eggs.😆
@lip-filler-looks-rank
@lip-filler-looks-rank 26 күн бұрын
wait so you are trying to tell me the fried egg i had for breakfast didnt come from a fried chicken? 🤯
@pottingsoil723
@pottingsoil723 26 күн бұрын
I don't always buy 4090s, but when I do...
@johnt.848
@johnt.848 25 күн бұрын
@@Medio2507 Scotch chickens of course. 🤣
@cloggedpitot1
@cloggedpitot1 25 күн бұрын
So that isnt where fried eggs come from??
@twizz420
@twizz420 25 күн бұрын
@@johnt.848 Where do the scotch chickens come from then?
@Zwank36
@Zwank36 27 күн бұрын
Always buy from a brick and mortar store for electronics this expensive. I got my burnt 4090 replaced same day it caught fire!
@MrFixiit
@MrFixiit 27 күн бұрын
looks like he did buy a brick from a mortor store :D
@DD-DD-DD
@DD-DD-DD 27 күн бұрын
*Mordor
@sy5tem
@sy5tem 27 күн бұрын
well i have been IT for 30 years, and to date buying on ebay from 4900FE to 650ti and server parts, i had little to no problem, either seller does not respond(full refund). at worse ebay comes in and evaluate claim. , and never lost 1$ on ebay to date. saved a lot of $$$ vs brand new, just buy from seller with more then 3 item sold if you buy over 1k USD
@sy5tem
@sy5tem 27 күн бұрын
AND also , for the love of god if price is too good to be true its NOT! unless its for parts!
@--_DJ_--
@--_DJ_-- 27 күн бұрын
​@sy5tem you missed a word in there.
@Trailtraveller
@Trailtraveller 26 күн бұрын
Same as 25 years ago, selling Pentium 100's for 120's, it even worked for some time. Difference was the font used and height.
@RuruFIN
@RuruFIN 24 күн бұрын
Yeah, GPU Galaxy made a video about this few years ago.
@kewtd72
@kewtd72 26 күн бұрын
wow nice catch, we need more people like you keeping us safe from scammers. Thanks!!!
@mrBDeye
@mrBDeye 26 күн бұрын
Shaving the core and chips, polishing and laser etching. Wow. Someone went to a lot of trouble to make $200.
@dekchi8781
@dekchi8781 26 күн бұрын
Like other commenters have said, this looks like an enterprise level scam. That is to say, who ever is doing this likely already have the equipment and knowledge to pull it off. Maybe a contracted factory that’s assembled real cards currently or in the past. The pricing of 200 is likely intentional too. If they charged 2000 they’d probably catch way more heat from the market and law enforcement. If they charge 200 they make a smaller margin but at least can recuperate some of their costs of business with out catching as much attention.
@FilipMunk
@FilipMunk 25 күн бұрын
remember, it had a 4090 core and GDDR6X Vmem chips from new that they removed, so they made more than 200usd
@MIkeOlah-mi9tu
@MIkeOlah-mi9tu 24 күн бұрын
Especially since used 3080 ti goes for about 200$.. almost seams like a click bat… between the time and money to make it appear as a 4090 then only to get less than it cost to make the fake one make no sense.
@jadkaranouh404
@jadkaranouh404 24 күн бұрын
@@MIkeOlah-mi9tu 3080ti for 200$? Second-hand goes MINIMUM 400$ buddy
@MIkeOlah-mi9tu
@MIkeOlah-mi9tu 24 күн бұрын
@@jadkaranouh404 that just proves my point even more… Why would somebody then spend 400$ plus time and labor to resell it as a 4090.
@charlesballard5251
@charlesballard5251 25 күн бұрын
Dishonesty just comes easy to some people. I worked in a computer shop back in late '98. The owner who was a year or two younger than me (I was 31) was constantly scamming everyone BUT the customers. He took a dead CREATIVE DVD drive and a newer model, swapped the faceplates on them so the new one was marked as old and the old was marked as new, then RMA'd the old one with the new face plate and got his money back while keeping the new perfectly functional drive. He also received stolen merchandise from some immigrant father/son criminals, as well as assisting insurance fraud to get someone's laptop replaced due to damage in an "automobile accident" that never happened. The two owners had their own side-clients and would get hardware through the shop at cost then pocket the profit while the shop made nothing. When my first paycheck bounced I walked. They still owe me, but they went out of business weeks after I left.
@ArtisChronicles
@ArtisChronicles 25 күн бұрын
That's actually wild. Man I don't think I'd like working there.
@GadgetReviewVideos
@GadgetReviewVideos 27 күн бұрын
That font on the fake is also slightly off, especially noticeable on the e1 with a circle around it.
@N4CR5
@N4CR5 26 күн бұрын
You can tell right away the laser spot width, depth and font is different. Also the ground plane parts (all four were different). Then you are going to probably have to start looking at board more closely to see if its physically different from exterior... If its too good to be true... it is probably.
@TheRussRyde
@TheRussRyde 27 күн бұрын
Wise advice! I know it's pointless to say as crime obviously pays, but wouldn't it be amazing to work hard doing honest work and get paid instead of harming many people through theft. Deplorable criminals. Thank you for sharing this important info with us.
@northwestrepair
@northwestrepair 27 күн бұрын
Poor economical situation drives people into committing fraud and crime. Look around. Crime in the US is all time high 😮 While crime is not a big issue in China, poverty is and one way to get out of it and not go to jail is fraud on the US market.
@TheRussRyde
@TheRussRyde 27 күн бұрын
@@northwestrepair After consideration, poverty doesn’t cause people to commit crime. In this case the better way of looking at it is the communist worldview definitely supports crime against any other worldview.
@BozesanVlad
@BozesanVlad 27 күн бұрын
@@northwestrepair The problem with chinese is that if they would sell them products as they really are, all parties would be satisfied. They just prefer to scam..
@Stikkzz
@Stikkzz 27 күн бұрын
@@northwestrepair "While crime is not a big issue in China"
@kaimojepaslt
@kaimojepaslt 27 күн бұрын
when you got no finances to eat, you start doing scams. everyone wants to survive. not defending scams, i hate this . but thats how it is.
@AntpoteatX
@AntpoteatX 26 күн бұрын
In this type of tech work you have to have a sense of humor and yours is awesome
@brucebee2525
@brucebee2525 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for the heads up!
@r8dj
@r8dj 26 күн бұрын
appreciate the insight into spotting fakes.....as far as "fools and their money", good luck with that one
@Rmm1722
@Rmm1722 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for the warning and good information great work 🙂👍
@POLARTTYRTM
@POLARTTYRTM 27 күн бұрын
enterprise-looking scam.
@lemagreengreen
@lemagreengreen 26 күн бұрын
I'm trying to think of reasons why they even bothered to solder a different core onto the board... maybe to try and fool x-ray inspection of packages? seems a bit excessively paranoid but I can't think of anything else. Would be curious to know where this was purchased from
@nikolaskallianiotis8622
@nikolaskallianiotis8622 26 күн бұрын
China raised the US-China conflict to a new level.
@codeisme
@codeisme 25 күн бұрын
As an Australian, this isn't a US China conflict.
@user-dw6fj1py1o
@user-dw6fj1py1o 27 күн бұрын
Good work!
@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql
@GraphicsCardRepairs-tk7ql 27 күн бұрын
there's some serious scam going out there. Thank you for bring this to the public. 😁
@corruptedMegabit
@corruptedMegabit 25 күн бұрын
I saw a bunch of these for like $200 and I was wondering what in the world was going on, I figured maybe the power delivery issues were so bad that they weren't expected to last too long so the resale value had tanked or something but this makes more sense.
@Roobotics
@Roobotics 26 күн бұрын
There is more than just the top pad position being wrong and matching a different series. (R) logo isn't the right size, the 'e1' logo also has a leftward shift inside of it's bubble. Also the Kerning (spacing between characters) is much larger on the bottom and top line, for the fake one.
@dennisbermal6784
@dennisbermal6784 21 күн бұрын
They finally found the use of those laser engraving machine.
@YokoBomo
@YokoBomo 21 күн бұрын
you have mastered the art of engaging content, well done!
@felipemendonca4918
@felipemendonca4918 27 күн бұрын
Damnnn.... 😅😅😅😅😅😅 Thank you for the warning and video! :)
@mrhorn1447
@mrhorn1447 27 күн бұрын
LukHash on the outro, cool.
@lukasychtyl1938
@lukasychtyl1938 26 күн бұрын
Wow!!! Good job sir!
@MaTtRoSiTy
@MaTtRoSiTy 26 күн бұрын
If something sounds like it is too good to be true...
@RuruFIN
@RuruFIN 24 күн бұрын
At least there wasn't a GF116 under the cooler.
@audioAI
@audioAI 26 күн бұрын
Yeah, if a graphic cards more than $2000, you can expect things like that.
@michaelfairchild
@michaelfairchild 27 күн бұрын
If something seems to good to be true, it usually is.
@Kmcornell23
@Kmcornell23 26 күн бұрын
The plastic is not a good way to tell if it's fake. I work on computers all the time and lots of people leave the plastic on their coolers.
@vasopel
@vasopel 25 күн бұрын
they leave the plastic on? :-O
@djirate052380
@djirate052380 26 күн бұрын
2 weeks ago I got scammed off of Amazon for a 4090 Gigabyte OC (partially my fault as I didnt look to into reviews) but thankfully they took care of it immediately. Why I say partially my fault is I believe they should have better standards for allowing peopke to sell from thier site. Quite alot of money to get scammed for and at then end of the day we are paying for it regardless by increased costs to justify those insurance claims.
@Strykenine
@Strykenine 24 күн бұрын
That's one way to dodge import controls.
@jgreen1276
@jgreen1276 26 күн бұрын
Was a bunch of Gigabyte RTX 4090 Aero cards being sold fast on an merchant store on Amazon last night for $1100, even that threw red flags.
@v.9876
@v.9876 27 күн бұрын
If you could get the core to work with something it could show what it really is or it could be spoofed I guess if they go that far in faking.
@hardware20x
@hardware20x 22 күн бұрын
Was about to buy a 4090 CND locally for $1500. That was until I came across video. Now I’m not so sure I should.
@fredygump5578
@fredygump5578 26 күн бұрын
could you make it work as a Frankenstein card? Or does the pin-out on the core they generously provided not match the circuitry on the board?
@UrokLizard
@UrokLizard 26 күн бұрын
no, the chips are dead and the VRAM isn't even compatible to begin with.
@autismo3201
@autismo3201 26 күн бұрын
If its a 3090/ti core, did still function (doubt), and had all memory it actually could with a custom bios flash. 3090/ti and 4090 cores have the same pinouts on either ones PCB afaik.
@ShantalhaitianPrincess
@ShantalhaitianPrincess 19 күн бұрын
@@autismo3201 some of them do show an image theres a guy on ebay that bought one and is complaining abut it on ebay community page sadly mean doesnt even turn on just has fans spinning
@NobodyCares71
@NobodyCares71 23 күн бұрын
Its wild how scammers will work harder to scam then they would just working a normal, honest job
@itsmemistermerm
@itsmemistermerm 23 күн бұрын
So what exactly is that card? Did it ever work at all?
@timmyv148
@timmyv148 26 күн бұрын
That’s why I always buy USED BUT TESTED VERIFIED GPUS 😟
@jrcat2258
@jrcat2258 26 күн бұрын
I wonder if the MSI repair does this too. How can we tell if we really have a 4090?
@helmernava1796
@helmernava1796 14 күн бұрын
will it show on msi afterburner as a different card or say 4090!!?
@exalented
@exalented 25 күн бұрын
No worries I just picked up an Arc card. It's great!
@rockosgaminglogic
@rockosgaminglogic 23 күн бұрын
I would guess the culprits are component thieves on the production floors.
@bat__bat
@bat__bat 26 күн бұрын
Damn. I was thinking who on Earth would go through all that trouble to counterfeit a graphics card... then I checked the price for a real 4090 😮 It's probably easier to counterfeit that 4090 than to cf $100 USD bills.
@Mirage_Unknown
@Mirage_Unknown 26 күн бұрын
Hey at least the pcb is authentic!
@Chipstarter
@Chipstarter 26 күн бұрын
The N from NVIDIA is slightly different, thinner on the fake chip
@user-jr2ue9nu6y
@user-jr2ue9nu6y 27 күн бұрын
That card is HOME ALONE
@devil5051000
@devil5051000 27 күн бұрын
So someone bought one of this core and memoryless cards from ebay, throwed onto it some parts he had in his parts bin and sold it full price? Thought that core was a lump of plastic first, have seen some repair videos, but never that weird glimmer from the bottom side.
@f0x4nn3
@f0x4nn3 27 күн бұрын
Nah, most likely the core already got swapped before the card left China.
@lemagreengreen
@lemagreengreen 26 күн бұрын
@@f0x4nn3 That's what I'm wondering. Steal cores when they're fresh out of factory and before export, solder on fake core to try and fool any exporter/importer who may go to lengths such as x-raying or opening one up to inspect? Really don't know, if you're going to scam an empty PCB is the exact same as this but for some reason they've gone to a lot more effort with this one.
@Dartheomus
@Dartheomus 26 күн бұрын
Wow... Yeah that's pretty bad. You or Nvidia needs to come up with a test that doesn't require complete disassembly!
@hardware64
@hardware64 26 күн бұрын
What song by LukHash is the outro?
@OldManBadly
@OldManBadly 10 күн бұрын
To be honest, I am surprised that Nvidia would have made the chips socket compatible. Seems like a real oversight, given the costs involved. You would think that they would just have enough of a difference that you couldn't just slam any chip on there and have it work.
@chincemagnet
@chincemagnet 25 күн бұрын
I remember when these scams first started becoming common place, back when the 2080 Ti came out. I wanted another one for SLI and came across a ton of these very inexpensive and obviously sketchy af cards listed as 2080 Ti’s. A bit of common sense applied and scam avoided 😂
@dianaalyssa8726
@dianaalyssa8726 26 күн бұрын
Great to get 4090 from a reliable place/source
@pwnomega4562
@pwnomega4562 25 күн бұрын
remember when you bought a scam GPU thinking it was a GTX 1060/70 and when you popped off the shroud it turned out to be a gt 650 or something? the amount of effort to fake this is crazy. and the amount of effort needed to actually identify it correctly (besides the price) is equally crazy..
@RANDOMNATION907
@RANDOMNATION907 27 күн бұрын
Gotta get around those pesky embargoes somehow.
@ZaPirate
@ZaPirate 27 күн бұрын
good morning
@user-xc3rs3qm2o
@user-xc3rs3qm2o 24 күн бұрын
That is some SERIOUS Chineezeium Sleezeium!!!
@slizzle.280
@slizzle.280 27 күн бұрын
I mean... the cooler itself was a sign. That Tuf model is from the 30 series
@tourmaline07
@tourmaline07 27 күн бұрын
Confusingly enough there are some genuine 4090s with 3090ti coolers - Asus release OG 4090 TUF cards using 3090ti coolers and MSI doing the same with their Suprim X Classic.
@MagiconIce
@MagiconIce 26 күн бұрын
Yeah but how many private end customers get to see more than one contemporary graphics card? Most PC gamers are not hardware enthusiasts, they wouldn't spot the difference because they don't know the difference to begin with. This is detailed knowledge that only enthusiasts have.
@XiloTheOdd
@XiloTheOdd 24 күн бұрын
my question would be this, did the owner of that card get it direct or through a 3rd party? like did they pick it up at a PC parts store or order it from a reseller like a newegg listed seller?
@DannyKaae-sd4is
@DannyKaae-sd4is 27 күн бұрын
Always get stuff from an official dealer. I did that with my AMD graphics card.
@WesTECH
@WesTECH Күн бұрын
I live in sothern cali. Some lil boys were talking about getting gpus from a train. New school RDR I guess. They got busted 2 weeks after home boy was trying to sell cards.
@KitsuneKiera
@KitsuneKiera 26 күн бұрын
So what I’m assuming is happening here is that you have 4090 dies and memory being pulled off of real cards to be made into those blower cooler AI cards that Chinese companies have been doing, and then either the same or a different group are putting dead GA102s and whatever memory they can on those stripped 4090 boards and selling them…
@autismo3201
@autismo3201 26 күн бұрын
So interesting thing I just learned is that the 3090 and 4090 cores can go in either ones PCB due to their design. Some guys named Techlab in Brazil put a 4090 core into a 3090ti PCB recently. The 4090 shown here may have a broken 3090 core from a blown mining card. Since that 3090 was basically an e-waste part it means that they could have robbed the actual 4090 core and swapped it while also stealing some memory chips at the same time turning a huge profit.
@leodf1
@leodf1 25 күн бұрын
Why would they go through the trouble of faking a broken card?
@johnt.848
@johnt.848 25 күн бұрын
If it was $200 I'd buy one as long as it worked.
@autismo3201
@autismo3201 25 күн бұрын
@@leodf1 because sadly some people are gullible and will fall for it being so cheap.
@leodf1
@leodf1 25 күн бұрын
@@autismo3201 That doesn't make sense. Why don't they just send them an empty box?
@autismo3201
@autismo3201 25 күн бұрын
@@leodf1 does 2 things, 1. Makes it less likely amazon will delist it as the product has to be visually inspected for certain components. 2. Gets rid of their e waste for profit. Profit they can re-invest into their mining rigs or to buy more of these cards and fake them for more profit. Think about it, if you had something like say an iphone 15 that somebody broke beyond repair but visually looked fine housing wise, would you not spend the 10 bucks for a fake screen replacement to resell it for 300+ ? It gets the iphone 15 that was bound for the trash off your hands and you make 290 bucks profit. People are gullible and dont think twice about cheap purchases, thats what these people prey on. This one is ridiculously sophisticated but when you put it in terms of "its a 200 dollar peice of garbage that I can resell for 1.8k to some sucker" it makes sense why these people do this. Obviously this one was not sold for that much, but someone out there paid full price for a fake at some point.
@christianrissotto.gordohom3478
@christianrissotto.gordohom3478 8 күн бұрын
Thats why i never buy from outside of my country and never on online markets, always in person.... tested and working.
@diegoaccord
@diegoaccord 10 күн бұрын
I always say, if I move away from a Microcenter location, I'm done with PC gaming. Online sounds like a fucking nightmare. Simply rather not deal with it.
@lemagreengreen
@lemagreengreen 26 күн бұрын
Looks like buying a 4090 from anyone but a big retailer is turning into an absolute minefield of risk. Those GPUs are worth too much, scamming is rife. The real confusing thing is this though: why go to the effort of re-engraving a GPU core? you can scam people by just selling an empty PCB... the thing was never supposed to work, you don't need to solder on a (dead?) 3080Ti core or different memory if you're going to rip someone off.
@turboimport95
@turboimport95 26 күн бұрын
There is actually another potential scam, I bet you havent seen, apparently the 3090ti has the same core pin out as a 4090, whats stopping someone from getting those cheap China 4090 empty pcbs and slapping on a 3090 core and claiming its a 4090.. it should technically still function, maybe flash a modified 4090 bios on board.. interesting..
@79huddy
@79huddy 26 күн бұрын
Someone is stealing from the Asus RMA lab and selling botched franken cards from the discarded pile after they have been stripped for usable parts
@PaulVang-vf7fm
@PaulVang-vf7fm 23 күн бұрын
I alway buy expensive electronics from Amazon, they ask very little questions, and do zero verification and send a replacement. Its super stress free shopping.
@hackersofbattlefield8357
@hackersofbattlefield8357 26 күн бұрын
4090 passed through CN at some point and had core+mem removed and switched for fakes. ai race is tough shit
@SimulacrumOfFate
@SimulacrumOfFate 25 күн бұрын
Absolutely I.N.S.A.N.E !!! You really MUST buy from a trusted vendor at ALL times.
@bigbubba0439
@bigbubba0439 25 күн бұрын
Scammers will do anything but make an honest living. Isn't it more time-consuming and more expensive to solder different memory chips and sometimes even an entirely new core just so you can make a few extra bucks? Solder and soldering machines (along with that expertise) is not cheap in the first place
@MrChriss000
@MrChriss000 21 күн бұрын
I cannot find the shorts.
@Miley-RayStewart
@Miley-RayStewart 14 күн бұрын
It is well known, that NVidia keeps messing around with the top models and remains changing things out of order to keep up with the market. And still.... People keep buying those 80´s ans 90´s because of the name.... The first time I did realize that was when the models 790 or so were on the market... It still was nothing "new" there....
@ES-jk9nr
@ES-jk9nr 27 күн бұрын
Dont buy 4090's used lol
@JeanPiFresita
@JeanPiFresita 27 күн бұрын
Better, Dont buy 4090 at all
@robotmechanicalwhizkid2521
@robotmechanicalwhizkid2521 27 күн бұрын
@@JeanPiFresita i got a 7900xtx but still want better should i just wait for the nvidia 5000 series to come out rather than get a 4090?
@JeanPiFresita
@JeanPiFresita 26 күн бұрын
@@robotmechanicalwhizkid2521 The 4090 has many problems. The problem with the 5000 is that we don't know if it will also have the same problems or if it will have new problems. Hard choise.
@waterbnb7204
@waterbnb7204 24 күн бұрын
Give me ur 7900 xtx, I give you 10 bux. Deal ​@@robotmechanicalwhizkid2521
@kos8765
@kos8765 4 күн бұрын
dont u get info about the chip in the OS though ?
@Hunter-nb5bj
@Hunter-nb5bj 26 күн бұрын
The 4090 saga is never ending from fake GPUs, to burning 12 pin power, to crazy prices. I’m glad I got mine in the beginning at msrp and it hasn’t burned up… yet 😅
@sullik8465
@sullik8465 16 күн бұрын
the heatsink is all wrong for this to be a 4090. Like, if you pop the card out of the box and aren't laughing at how comically big it is, then laughing at where the PCB ends, you probably got scammed.
@Ginto_O
@Ginto_O 25 күн бұрын
Can you show GPU -Z readings?
@____________________________.x
@____________________________.x 26 күн бұрын
So what does system config say the board is? This should be easily detectable by software
@northwestrepair
@northwestrepair 26 күн бұрын
It's dead
@____________________________.x
@____________________________.x 26 күн бұрын
@@northwestrepair is that dead because it has fake chips and was shipped as non functional or dead because one of them failed and nobody noticed before?
@UrokLizard
@UrokLizard 26 күн бұрын
@@____________________________.x Dead because it's fake and dead. Fake chips. Dead chips. There's nothing more to add because it's not worth investigating further.
@Gamingcs11692
@Gamingcs11692 11 күн бұрын
The problem with this is unless you are a software engineer you will never know so this is not at all helpful for someone like me but then again I have no intentions on buying a 4090 anyway.
@xTriplexS
@xTriplexS 26 күн бұрын
That's a chargeback
@johndoe7270
@johndoe7270 7 күн бұрын
Where did they buy this from?
@PainX187
@PainX187 26 күн бұрын
knew instantly there is no TUF writing on the backplate and the ventilation is the size of an 80mm fan later the side profile is even worse just look nothing like my card from the side shroud wrong heatsink wrong the lighting looks tagged on it is not it is the shroud it is molded into it heatsinks are the size of noctua d15 madness
@UrokLizard
@UrokLizard 26 күн бұрын
No. ASUS released "OG" models of RTX 4090 using 3090tu style heatsinks. look up "TUF-RTX4090-O24G-OG-GAMING" and it'll come up on asus website, looks like old gen but it is new gen core. They had extra 3090ti heatsinks laying around so they used them so they wouldnt have to throw them away.
@sorvex9
@sorvex9 17 сағат бұрын
A pretty good indicator would be the fkn performance of the card...
@Keaton.
@Keaton. 26 күн бұрын
So, I'm pretty sure we got those in Brazil too. People are selling dead cards, with fried GPUs, for like 2/3 of value. lol
@infni
@infni 22 күн бұрын
99,999 % das placas de vídeo compradas no Aliexpress para países de terceiro mundo são assim
@ShantalhaitianPrincess
@ShantalhaitianPrincess 19 күн бұрын
@@infni 😥
@MrDvneil
@MrDvneil 27 күн бұрын
7am, gud mornin
@indyjons321
@indyjons321 26 күн бұрын
Well that might explain the price hike since yesterday.
@xj2611
@xj2611 3 күн бұрын
I was wondering why I've been seeing cheap 4090's on marketplace. So this is why-_-
@MrFlooperke
@MrFlooperke 22 күн бұрын
Now could you make it a working 3080Ti?
@SandboChang
@SandboChang 26 күн бұрын
I mean they are looking for one themselves, how are you buying one from them and for cheap?
@nordlicht1881
@nordlicht1881 24 күн бұрын
Now... Would this even work? Did you get the card working? I... Even if it is a scam, I would be kind of interested in how this was expected to work...
@ShantalhaitianPrincess
@ShantalhaitianPrincess 19 күн бұрын
i bought one of these last month i was the second person to buy from him and he sold all the 100 cards he had
@Neosin1
@Neosin1 25 күн бұрын
wait what??? So does it boot or just a dead fake card?
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