Even as someone who doesn’t like the Bay Version I have to admit that the multiple changes were the Lesser of 2 Evils.
@OvertheHedge065 ай бұрын
Paramount execs practically forced Transformers, Ninja Turtles, and Sonic to all have realistic designs since they thought that's what the audience wanted (for whatever reason). It wasn't until the insane backlash they got for the infamous Gangsta's Paradise Sonic trailer did they change their minds and let the designs be cartoony
@Person-wz6iy4 ай бұрын
I would rather watch skibidi toilet.
@PixelaGames20004 ай бұрын
@@Person-wz6iyshut up kid, and go outside.
@JebediahKurtman2 ай бұрын
@@PixelaGames2000 I think he was joking..
@Skaiser_Wilhelm793829 күн бұрын
@Person-wz6iy No problem, Michael Bay is reportedly bringing Skibidi Toilet to the big screen.
@redherringoffshoot23415 ай бұрын
Blue Door is more interesting as an AU project instead of being officially canonical to the mainline TMNT lore
@ellugerdelacruz25554 ай бұрын
I would've LOVED to see Francisco's Turtles in action... I'll take humanoid alien turtles with realistic animal faces over the uncanny vallley shlock of Bay any day!
@fernandodelgado43295 ай бұрын
I know no one loves these crappy ugly buff Ninja Turtles movies from Micheal Bay but I am glad the original script was scrapped because I was probably 9 or 10 in 2014 when I watched this film while I kept begging my mom "Look Mom I want to go see Ninja Turtles" but I am still sad that they cancelled the plans for a third film.
@DarkLord-hl1fi5 ай бұрын
The designs we got really aren’t that bad
@Lord_Shredda5 ай бұрын
I like them idc its tmnt
@estrada80254 ай бұрын
I didn’t like the designs of the turtles, but I am probably one of the few who loved the shredder design from the first movie. It’s missing a little color, but it still looked awesome.
@Lord_Shredda4 ай бұрын
@@estrada8025 ok I can get that shredder was awesome looking in the 1st one atleast
@milkmanman4 ай бұрын
I liked both movies. Never understood the hate
@justoopy5 ай бұрын
Dude I feel like the only person who actually liked the 2014 deigns. Their huge stature makes them feel more Mutant like
@DarkLord-hl1fi5 ай бұрын
Nah you’re not the only one i like them as well
@milkmanman4 ай бұрын
I never understood the hate. I liked them I'm also one of the few that liked Batman vs Superman. Most movie goers didn't understand that this came out of frank millers run.
@CoffeePotGames4 ай бұрын
I think they work for the movie. It was a departure but every TMNT adaptation does its own thing and I really love that about the series. It's constantly evolving and there's always something new to enjoy
@Therealones7455 ай бұрын
I would love a new tmnt live action series based on the modern comic series.
@RusPitman5 ай бұрын
Well they’re doing The Last Ronin so it may happen 🤞
@OvertheHedge065 ай бұрын
3:50 That game series deadass shaped a whole generation's perspective on animatronics
@williamaguilar55195 ай бұрын
I mean look at Donnie when his head goes down 🤮
@HarrySherlock5 ай бұрын
This movie would've been weird and obscure for the characters and the concept of the story with the mutant turtles being aliens instead of mutated turtles
@kampiestarz4 ай бұрын
You made this video at the perfect time, trying to explain the script to her! Good job!
@ToaAxiomMan3 ай бұрын
I'm kinda glad we didn't end up with the original script.... Somewhere in some cursed timeline we got ended up with this
@zillauniverse72085 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie this would have been very interesting to see even if it would have been the worst thing to come out of the Ninja Turtles, while the 2014 film wasn’t terrible it felt too safe and feels more like retread of the 1990s movie.
@ellugerdelacruz25554 ай бұрын
Especially Francisco's Turtles and the idea of them all being aliens...
@nerychristian5 ай бұрын
I wish they would make a TMNT 4 movie that is a continuation of the 1990 movie.
@lazarnikolic33945 ай бұрын
I think the 07 animated movie is suppose to be that, not sure if It's canon tho
@emoji_sus6025 ай бұрын
@@lazarnikolic3394 It canon
@CrashWeezerman5 ай бұрын
TMNT (2007) is meant to be that. Too bad it probably won't get a further continuation. Sounded like they were going to adapt City At War.
@kylemulkey9659Ай бұрын
07 Animated is a direct continuation, shows them after crime fighting ends, they have jobs and lives still.
@dynaguy35 ай бұрын
Colonel Schrader? So Dank Schrader becomes Shredder. The evolution is complete
@WarpingFist5 ай бұрын
Isn’t dank schrader a weed company?
@dynaguy35 ай бұрын
@@WarpingFist Its also Hank Schrader's alter ego
@WarpingFist5 ай бұрын
@@dynaguy3 oh that’s right. Thats the sussy baka guy.
@ic3_1155 ай бұрын
The purple guy reference got me 💀💀
@zephsolis5 ай бұрын
I will never understand how big studios always want to change the exact attributes and storyline that makes a franchise Legendary. Moving ass backwards and wondering why it flops after.
@hattoripool15335 ай бұрын
I think they should have kept the guns idea except have only Raphael use them. Maybe they could even adapt the Mirage Casey Jones and Raphael, Bodycount from the 90s
@WarpingFist5 ай бұрын
Yeah, Raph is the only one who would be packing heat.
@kstudioz88714 ай бұрын
If the nostrils and the turtles heights were shorter and if they made the turtles less buff then I would like the designs much better
@williamaguilar55195 ай бұрын
To be perfectly honest, none of the ideas are bad, but they’re not a way to re-introduce a franchise back to cinema. Maybe if they are part of a variety comic I would love it, but if they went for this in an actual movie, it would’ve been one shell shock of a disaster, the Bay turtles were all ready very scary, scary enough that when my mom gave me the action figure of Leo we had to leave it in the yard until she gave it away,so making them giant buff aliens with guns probably wouldn’t have been a good idea
@aurahoneydew96075 ай бұрын
Oddly enough I'd would have liked to see it, it's that weird early revamping you got back in the day like the Rami Spider-man, Burton Batman, and phase one of the Avengers.
@JoeChillton5 ай бұрын
Warping Fist, any chance of doing X-Men Days of Future Past content since the 10th anniversary is coming up? Thanks man
@WarpingFist5 ай бұрын
I have an idea for an X-men related video so thats close enough I guess.
@JoeChillton5 ай бұрын
@@WarpingFist better be lol Can't wait.
@cro-magnoncarol40172 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie, I actually like the concept art where each Turtle was given difference skin textures. I wish they kept that in the final film.
@luigiscartoons92235 ай бұрын
I watched both films in theaters I was thinking that the shredder in 2014 looked more like super shredder instead. Heck i was hoping for a shredder film where he escapes the krang but sadly it didn't last long :/
@BoulderDash-js8fx5 ай бұрын
Did he say 70s film?
@SCAR529845 ай бұрын
He definitely did. Come on man I saw the first film in the theaters, I'm not that old haha.
@ChurchoftheLatterDayShrek5 ай бұрын
The Bayverse movies are my guilty pleasure movies. I enjoy them for roughly the same reasons someone might enjoy the Monsterverse movies. I get a kick seeing CGI animal things going at it. I actually don't think the Turtles themselves look that bad. Had this version of the movie been what we saw in theaters, I think I would've liked it even more
@tyronleung52765 ай бұрын
1:02 Thats the complete opposite of what a ninja is cause the pyshique of ninjas are lean built a jacked muscle bound hulking jock with bullet immunity carapaces and plastrons makes no sense and they have no reason to be ninjas at that point
@MrLogic2044 ай бұрын
Fun fact the chemicals that created the ninja turtles is the same chemicals that blinded Daredevil
@JoeChillton5 ай бұрын
Some part of me wanted to see how the others could have looked, like Schrader being yellow skinned and such. But this was always a doomed idea to me, to paste Transformers storytelling with Casey as Spike/Sam and just having the TMNT be fodder to focus less on them and more on April. Turtles with guns is a huge turn off. If there ever was a mulitversal Spider-Verse TMNT film like Turtles Forever, theses ideas should make a cameo. The alien Shredder thing i dont hate as i love the over the top insanity one from the 03 show. Or one of em.
@darthwatson82744 ай бұрын
Yes, I remember at the time when they accounted this film that they were going to be aliens, it was quite controversial.
@TheBlindFighter5 ай бұрын
I Hope you do some Transformers film series concept arts stuff one day
@lucas.n.carvalho.artist5 ай бұрын
Seeing Warpingfist's two cents on them could be neat, but there's already plenty of good coverage of them, especially by channels like Theorymus and The Fire Brothers.
@spyder-man04625 ай бұрын
3:00 😂😂😂 LOL LMAO
@seanewing2045 ай бұрын
Can they divorce the Blue Door script from the Turtles franchise and release it as a standalone? That sounds awesome! Also: I find it hilarious that the Turtles are forced to hide from society at large because of their appearance, even though they're literal heroes, yet the fans were (and are) mad that they're "too ugly." Like, that's the point!
@gazem_32115 ай бұрын
Damn, never expected you to cover TMNT
@WarpingFist5 ай бұрын
Im a big fan. I was hoping to talk about it eventually.
@gazem_32115 ай бұрын
@WarpingFist Damn, so what are your favorite versions?
@WarpingFist5 ай бұрын
The original comic versions/ Last Ronin. I really liked the 2007 film as well despite the mixed reception and the first 2 seasons of the 2012 series.
@gazem_32115 ай бұрын
@@WarpingFist Ah, I'm an 04 kid, so 2012 was the one I mainly grew up with. 2003 is also great too!
@jackthegreek60925 ай бұрын
I think Leo actually has a pretty good looking classic Ninja turtle face and makes the nostrils work pretty well. It's Raph I hate. Why does he have them so close together?
@WarpingFist5 ай бұрын
Everything is to make him look more aggressive i guess. Maybe people with close together nostrils are scary.
@cliffwoodbury53195 ай бұрын
And these movies were good, but everyone hates Michael Bay no matter what he does. If I could ask for one thing from HOLLYWOOD I'd ask for the 3rd film from this franchise..... well and another Rush Hour (rushhour-4)...
@Spidersonic75755 ай бұрын
Bro that was crazy that the turtles were aliens 😂
@kovalfetterer22185 ай бұрын
I used to love the 2014 Ninja Turtles movie
@TheReactionMan9223 ай бұрын
The moral of the story is never to hire Hollywood elite crackheads
@Person-wz6iy4 ай бұрын
SPONGEBOB.
@LincolnAKAVenox5 ай бұрын
Colonel SCHRADER?
@WarpingFist5 ай бұрын
yes
@sopebarrofficial35575 ай бұрын
It’s kinda funny how the 2014 film was a course correction
@DrathTengu4 ай бұрын
1990s not 70s
@MarkeithWinbush-e7p5 ай бұрын
I'm glad we didn't get this movie aliens turtles 😅
@FrancisSyCoCo4 ай бұрын
Michael Bay and Zack Snyder, seriously are these two brothers? Lol. They have a vision for what they want on their movies, but they just can't or dont know how to execute it well...
@basickben4 ай бұрын
I enjoyed both the Bay movies, I enjoyed part 1 the most. I was one of the few fans of the Shredder design, I mean, in my opinion... that modern upgrade was spot on. Shredder sucked in part 2, boring, no helmet until he was written out at the end🤦🏾♂️🤷🏽♂️
@smanrules1015 ай бұрын
Fucking alien turtles
@jakeproven2565 ай бұрын
Now, look, as bad as the idea of the turtles being aliens is, and this script isn’t much better. When that was announced, people on the internet should’ve been a lot more mature, and I mean that. Saying stuff like “my childhood is being sh*t on” is just dumb! I mean, all it would’ve been if the alien idea wasn’t scrapped, was a crappy new version of the turtles, it doesn’t effect the version of the turtles from the past that you love. If you don’t like the turtles being aliens, don’t see it, it’s that simple, that’ll show them they made a bad choice. My point is, when a movie based on a franchise you love comes out, and it sucks, and it has no ties to the versions of it you love, be an adult, and don’t say “my childhood is ruined” you’re childhood is not ruined!
@kikacruz45605 ай бұрын
Teenage Alien Ninja Turtles
@f-entertainmentbts68505 ай бұрын
But the drawings you made were actually good lmao.
@tapinewoods39375 ай бұрын
Yeah, I propably have a fealing that everybody here didn't like the original screenplay for 2014 tmnt.
@miKeYdOEsNtLiKeiT5085 ай бұрын
80s film. Not the 70s
@ricketycricket724 ай бұрын
90s
@miKeYdOEsNtLiKeiT5084 ай бұрын
@@ricketycricket72 well yea I was prob thinking comic lol
@DaniG._.German5 ай бұрын
Michael Bay and Zack Snyder, two people who don't understand their job.
@angels89204 ай бұрын
I liked them
@roddyrich42005 ай бұрын
First
@vergilcold11674 ай бұрын
Mutant mayhem also looks ugly as shit
@RusPitman5 ай бұрын
Boo
@Mr.Feather1305 ай бұрын
I am glad the finished version of the film didn't keep the elements from the blue door script of the film since i don't want to see turtles as aliens
@tonymata80705 ай бұрын
And to think Michael Bay tried to brush this attempt off as it was developed before his involvement, he's a terrible liar tbh.
@WarpingFist5 ай бұрын
Bro tried to claim he had nothing to do with it lol.
@tonymata80705 ай бұрын
@@WarpingFist It's pathetic, honestly. He can't own up to his mistakes.
@strongman52435 ай бұрын
Man I love the original mirage series
@christianmanka38845 ай бұрын
The sequel is actually kinda great tho. That one felt like an excellent but too late course correction.
@WarpingFist5 ай бұрын
TMNT (2014) is a guilty pleasure of mine but I’m happy that they tried to course correct. Although, it was too late as you say.
@Therealones7455 ай бұрын
No it wasn’t it was a worse movie than the first
@DarkLord-hl1fi5 ай бұрын
@@Therealones745Not really
@nordtwentysix4 ай бұрын
Actually it kinda isn't
@davidostapenko25784 ай бұрын
Nah, the sequel is inferior to this one.
@darthdarkrage5 ай бұрын
That part about shredder having yellow skin and red eyes. Seem to be a little racist, since the shredder is a Japanese man
@WarpingFist5 ай бұрын
Oh my god, I didn’t even think about that lol. That would’ve been a shitstorm if it was allowed to happen.
@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.68525 ай бұрын
it wouldn't be racist if his origin was having him from another dimension and not Japan.
@ellugerdelacruz25554 ай бұрын
@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852 Agreed. And the fact that _blades grow out of his body_ is also a neat aspect.
@tonymata80705 ай бұрын
I wanted to mention the nostrils thing, I know hardcore fans don't like this, but turtles do have nostrils. I mean, they're amphibious creatures that breathe on land and swim underwater, so it makes perfect sense to give them nostrils. The problem is that the facial designs of the TMNT are way too human and kinda ruins the whole mutant aspect. It's supposed to be a mix of human features with turtle features. Oh wait, you actually mentioned it. My bad. 😅
@WarpingFist5 ай бұрын
Great minds think alike.
@jackkawf44494 ай бұрын
I agree, I'll even go as far as I liked the concept of the turtles being different in size, not as big, but the idea that Raphael would be a little bit more muscular, Leonardo would have more of a martial artist type build, Michelangelo would be more athletic, and Donnie would probably be a bit on the scrawny/ in shape side of things. I even liked the bullet proof shells concept honestly..
@tonymata80704 ай бұрын
@@jackkawf4449 I think the different size thing was inherited from the 2012 series since that show did the same thing, and same goes for Rise years later. But I honestly liked it when the Bayverse implemented that tbh.
@jackkawf44494 ай бұрын
@@tonymata8070 true, the only thing is they were just a bit too big, the turtles are typically about 5ft-ish... I would have even been ok with 5"7 -6".
@tonymata80704 ай бұрын
@@jackkawf4449 I think they got inspired by the 2003 turtles because they were six feet tall.
@v1c_l5 ай бұрын
8:23 this version of TMNT looks like they come from a game that they are literally the boss fight or even The Boys version but overall I have to admit that TMNT with guns goes hard ngl
@tyronleung52765 ай бұрын
Oh man this god awful trash they should've stuck with the mirage comics
@optimascrime52354 ай бұрын
I know this is an under statement, but I'm so glad we live in the timeline where the blue door didn't get made
@DamagedFn-ct9rr5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. The production of these movies and the controversy leading from before the movie, until even after the demise has always intrigued me. I have been a ninja turtles fan my entire life and at the end of the day I don’t despise these movies
@lucasgoad56914 ай бұрын
You mean 90s film, not 70s
@oonietv15355 ай бұрын
Yellow skinned shredder is crazyyy
@thevioletskull81585 ай бұрын
Yeah they misrepresented Shredder twice. At least they didn't the the second movie
@Enkeria5 ай бұрын
Michael Bay TMNT is bad, both movies. But they are "canon" thanks to TMNT Forever, since they represent a dimension / parallel world. Even though if that one sucks.
@Hummingbirdzah4 ай бұрын
I'll never forget Colonel Schrader
@Jordan-ii4ip5 ай бұрын
Some ideas from the Bay films weren't bad, but the execution was underwhelming.
@tapinewoods39375 ай бұрын
Do you plan on doing any videos about the original Ghostbusters and it's follow ups?
@warmarms68565 ай бұрын
8:24 TMNT creepy/ heroic kinda rules
@JoeThunderFox5 ай бұрын
3:00 Viewer:WHAT?!!! Warpingfist:Hey calm down!!
@jakeproven2565 ай бұрын
I for the life of me don’t understand, why Johnny Knoxville was cast as Leonardo, Leonardo is the responsible turtle, Johnny Knoxville is not a responsible man, and he’s a bad actor as well! I mean just, look at Jackass, it’s one of the worst things I’ve ever seen, that show and those movies make me wanna vomit!
@crazycross55014 ай бұрын
Still make the movie call it teenage ninja aliens from dimension X boom new IP and fun movies that doesn't ruin the turtle franchise and then add this concepts with the guns for the next movie like the aliens just learns how to use guns from the new world their in that's earth and call it teenage ninja aliens from dimension x reloaded fighting other beings from dimension q that are trying to assimilate the new world earth and shadder and the aliens form an alince to protect earth form dimension q invasion boom thank you you can leave the check at my door 😅
@chrisvainio4 ай бұрын
Long time Turtles fan, original cartoons on DVD, etc. Unpopular hot take: I don’t hate the Bayverse turtles
@battman5054 ай бұрын
Giving the originally Japanese shredder “yellow skin” wouldn’t have gone over well.
@Mextlatec3 ай бұрын
The next reboot should be Rated R like the Original series white and Black
@sharpsonmusic5 ай бұрын
10:47 looks like Shredder if he was in the new Mortal Kombat series
@shenglongisback46884 ай бұрын
I actually like the design @ 6:57
@awesomeperson5315 ай бұрын
I hate the 2014 movie as much as the next guy but there is something about it that I like. Heck even of the Blue Door was a real actual thing, I would've hate it but because it is a TMNT thing there will always be something in it that I would like
@gxlaxy79984 ай бұрын
8:56 had me dead
@Person-wz6iy5 ай бұрын
I came up with a TMNT film of my own! It's called TMNT: Into the Shadows, and follows a now broken version of the Turtle gang, set 10 years after an incident, which saw Splinter die at the hands of Shredder, leading Leo to kill him in a fit of rage, in front of a large crowd of people. This would cause the Turtles to be seen as murderous monsters, as they fled into the shadows, leading to Mutants being outlawed. But, when TCRI teams up with Karai and the remaining foot clan, to try and take over New York, this leads to the brothers, April, and Cacey to have to regroup to protect the City, with this film also being the first in a potential TMNT Cinematic Universe. The film would be 2D Animated in a style similar to the Mirage comics, with the Turtles all wearing red bandanas to stay hidden, but they would still wear the letter belts, and would all be different sizes to better distinguish them. What do you think?
@MohsanPeerzada5 ай бұрын
Scott derricksons doctor strange 2
@natto4now5 ай бұрын
So why is it called blue door?
@elgato1674 ай бұрын
It's pretty standard procedure in Hollywood, for popular franchises to get fake titles or what they call "production titles", basically as a way to try and keep people from looking too closely at them, in an attempt to keep things secret until the film comes out. The most popular example is probably Return of the Jedi, which was filmed under the name "Blue Harvest". Basically the idea is, no one is really going to care much about some random film called "Blue Door", but a new TMNT reboot? Well, that's going to drum up a lot of interest, and even though most people are wise to the practice of fake production titles, they still use them, to at least attempt to keep things from leaking.
@yanmartin33465 ай бұрын
Would have liked to see the alien version as a separate franchise from TMNT
@krystiangacha94693 ай бұрын
And also the old design of Movie Sonic as a seperate franchise it should be called "Naoto the Alien Hedgehog" nod to Naoto Oshima, charzcter designer of Sonic
@brandonmoore81995 ай бұрын
Artist , artworks , create , creations
@Purplegorillaz4 ай бұрын
You know what I like about AI is alot of these Movies that could of came out and was Shelved or unreleased can be done by AI and it might look good.. Purple Gorillaz Was Here. Peace.