The Cinematic Legacy of Venom

[@WarpingFist]

Do you prefer it when Venom is a rampaging monster or a campy anti-hero?

[@PuzzlingHousing56]

I don't see how he can't be a bit of both

[@NadeemShekh-uy9zn]

I like both

[@smileysuburban8146]

monster to criminals, campy anti hero to everyone else

[@JoeChillton]

Bit of both, when he's in action, monster, in private, could be campy but maintain the edge

[@UltimateSpider1385]

616 Venom: King in Black/Lethal Protector ULTIMATE Venom: Bloodthirsty Beast

[@178laaleros]

Fun fact about the creation of venom in the comics todd MacFarlane who co created venom said that he created venom because he got tired of drawing spiderman in the black suit and decided to give someone else the black suit.

[@The_Blue_Otaku]

From what I heard in a old interview Todd didn't like the black suit and just wanted to draw Peter in the classic red and blue... Which I don't blame him I would have thought and wanted the same thing if I was in his shoes

[@lofi_njb]

@@The_Blue_Otakuso if he didn’t create venom, would Spider-Man have worn the black suit permanently?

[@haydenk3091]

@@lofi_njb I thought Venom was created by a fan

[@lofi_njb]

@@haydenk3091 Spider-Man’s black suit was created by a fan during a survey. The idea of venom was created by McFarlane, which was inspired by the black suit.

[@hugoalvarez8307]

​​@@lofi_njb He wasn't wearing the symbiote at that point. He was wearing a cloth version of the suit, given to him by Black Cat. He changed suits depending of the writer. Todd McFarlane didn't like to draw It, and because he was so popular, they created Venom and made Peter stop wearing the cloth version

[@bobathebountyhunter3956]

Ultimate venom is such a creepy concept in the ultimate spider man game it truly made him a horror monster that haunts peters life . i wonder if the new ultimate spiderman run will be able to top this version in desing and horror elements.

[@JoeChillton]

I think the creators described him or it as a walking tumor in parts grown from Spider-Man, Scary.

[@UltimateSpider1385]

616 Venom: A Lethal Protector and The King in Black Sonyverse Venom: A symbiote with a childish and goofy demeanor that has a habit of Eating people's brains in a comedic way Ultimate Venom: A Ferocious, Carnivorous Beast that stalks the night and lurks in the dark. I love Venom in the 616 continuity because of his will redeem himself due to his relationship with Eddie Brock's son, Dylan. Ultimate Venom however is a merciless Monstrosity that shows no mercy to destroy everything in its path.

[@Blublublu23]

I love Sonyverse Venom because he's the best 🖤

[@NiceGuy88]

​@@Blublublu23Good in looking comic accurate a little bit but not taken seriously, Venom never joked around that's shown in Sonyverse rather he was way darker as portrayed in Spider-Man 3.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

The scariest form of Venom is the one where the Symbiote used Peter as a host that he can put some dirt on everyone's eye.

[@Deadpool-b2o]

They should have made the venom movies rated r They legit wasted Carnage in a pg13 movie lol 😭

[@WarpingFist]

He was kinda treated as a joke instead of a terrifying monster

[@The_Blue_Otaku]

​@@WarpingFist Honestly Venom may look and fight like a pure beast but he always acted like a goof ball heck even back in the 1990s comics he acted almost like how he did in the first Venom movie

[@spider-man500]

​@@The_Blue_Otakuaccept he STILL started out as a villain

[@Blublublu23]

@@spider-man500 so characters can't grow or change after their first appearance?

[@annikafanpage1745]

They in the multiverse remember, there is many variations of carnage. He'll be back

[@JoeChillton]

Without this connection to Spider-Man, Sony's Venom feels like a less layered Venom and more like The Mask.

[@WarpingFist]

It's fascinating to see how they substitute aspects of Venom's origin in which Spider-Man played a massive role, but he feels incomplete somehow.

[@JoeChillton]

@@WarpingFist is a facsimile. A copy of a better character on the page. He has no anger,there's no emotion.hes just dude who gets body jacked by a caddy alien suit. Pfft....

[@brucardi]

I actually disagree. While Spider-Man does play a big part in his origin I think the Sony movies handled it well not having a Spider-Man tied to him. In his own comics he’s pretty much an anti hero. He protects people that are too weak to protect themselves just lethally. When Spider-Man Isn’t on his on mind he’s a pretty chill dude. I feel like they did a good job taking what worked from his solo runs while giving him an origin that made sense without the need of Spider-Man.

[@gladiatordragon6245]

​@Joecbg100 the Sony venom movies are actually pretty accurate adaptations of Venom as a character if they erased Spiderman, they got the personality and dynamic down.

[@JoeChillton]

​@@gladiatordragon6245dude erasing Spider-Man and his presence in making Venom is a terrible mistake.

[@PuzzlingHousing56]

What about crashed alien slime that's lab grown? For the reason why Venom goes after Spidey and the aggression is because of Peter's memories of his foes and believes he is a better Spider-Man than him At least that's what I think

[@HelenaSan425]

Venom is such a great villain in Spiderman And One of my favorites!

[@Venom_eddie123]

And anti hero

[@MuriloAraújo-j2x]

@@Venom_eddie123 hes a great villain but an awful antihero imo..

[@Venom_eddie123]

@user-jj5pm4xo6n no his best stories are him being an anti-hero

[@caelanestes4624]

3:53 I believe the Avengers sequel isn’t adapting the first Secret Wars and instead it will be adapting the other Secret Wars story. Y’know the one that erased the Ultimate universe and brought miles into the 616 Universe.

[@WarpingFist]

Is that the one they’re adapting? I haven’t heard anything about that.

[@radrno7]

It's the main reason Russo Bros won't be directing it. They wanted to make Beyonder and Battle World like the 80s version, not the recent Doctor Doom multiversal war version.

[@j.Rod1000]

I might seem a little biased because Spiderman 3 was the only film I ever first saw Venom when the film came out even though he wasn't perfect I like the effort they put in the makeup so he would look realistic.

[@FeelingOverTheme]

My favorite Venom is the classic Venom when Eddie was a psychopathic petty reporter with a grudge and the symbiotic only allowed him to ruin Spider Man more.

[@lewisaino]

I remember that in FBook people would put Anime Characters with the Venom Symbiote 😂😂😂

[@WarpingFist]

I remember fan art of Nine Tails Naruto fighting Susuke with the Venom Symbiote on Inner demon vs inner demon

[@lewisaino]

@@WarpingFist Za Warudo Dio

[@AxisChurchDevotee]

Waifus do look good in it.

[@teflonjohn4018]

I love venom from the cartoons and comics.... hate how he's portrayed in the movies.... Eric Foremans version was closer than Tom Hardy's somehow.

[@Manuelaiello204]

I mean venom’s personality in the Venom movies was pretty accurate to the one In lethal protector (with the only difference being that it’s the Symbiote that has this personality and not eddie

[@ChristianGriffin-1]

I Loved This Video, Do A Video On The Development Of The 2017 Power Rangers Movie.

[@ultimateslinger9857]

I don’t much like that movie, but the idea of a video on it sounds awesome

[@ChristianGriffin-1]

@@ultimateslinger9857 The Reason Why It Fucking Sucked, Is Because Lionsgate Wanted A Franchise, But Saban Only Wanted One Movie, And Then A TV Series, Production Originally Started At 20th Century Fox, But Later Moved To Lionsgate As A Result Of The Cost Of The Film.

[@henrygambles3652]

Maybe Venom for the MCU isn’t Eddie Brock but Mac Gargan(Scorpion)

[@Goku23864]

Nope

[@Goku23864]

It's going to be Eddie Brock

[@Goku23864]

The mcu will use Eddie Brock

[@henrygambles3652]

@@Goku23864 I would like it to be but then wouldn’t that create confusion with the Tom Hardy version? They’d need to make their take on Venom different from Sony’s and making it another Eddie Brock may confuse certain audiences!

[@Goku23864]

@@henrygambles3652 venom 3 is tom Hardy last venom flim

[@Shift_Salt]

I prefer the symbiote being it's own character spurned by Peter's rejection instead of just an evil alien that Spider-Man fights. And no it isn't as dumb as people make it out to be, like honestly I know many would claim to say yes but, realistically, if you found out you were essentially wearing an alien and it was trying to permanently bond to you would you let it? Peter may be a superhero but he's also just an everyman type guy and I don't think being forever bonded to a symbiote is something he'd necessarily be fully comfortable with even if it benefits him. Especially if he finds out it can just use him as a puppet in his sleep and leave him drained, just because it likes the adrenaline rush it provides. He was still essentially being used by the suit as a prop, and he genuinly thought it was just some advanced alien technology given he got it from using a machine he believed would repair his existing costume. So yeah if you found out the "cool alien tech costume" was in fact just straight up an alien fusing to your body and using you as it pleased then you'd probably not be inclined to let it. The whole "turning Spider-Man evil" thing wasn't done because it made more sense, it was just way simpler and quicker to communicate to the audience why it's bad and needs to go, because it was a kids cartoon. And no offense but if all media takes notes from a kids cartoon (even if it's a good one) for how to adapt a story and not, y'know, the story itself then it's a bit lazy and sorta pandering. To me "evil alien" is just a sign that something is trying to dumb down the concept because it's easier... And if they go the ultimate route then it's usually boring as hell. lmao

[@jimmiebenton2821]

Yesssirr!!! Warps the 🐐

[@ibexis]

Funny that Sony can actually use Spider-Man in their Sonyverse movies but they don't for some reason Maybe because the Sonyverse they don't want to mess with the MCU by using Tom, Tobey's story has basically had its conclusion and it being confirmed that it isn't the same universe as TASM

[@eckoalbino1623]

They never really addressed the plot thread of a piece of the Venom symbiote being stuck in the MCU Earth (616) in the mid-credits of NWH. No mention of it hopping around and bonding with various hosts. And since Spider-Man 4 is most likely going to be street-level, I'm not sure if the whole symbiote plothole is gonna be addressed. Maybe not until Avengers: Secret Wars?

[@BLAZE_EDTIZ]

To me, the best versions of Venom is between Insomniac Venom and Ultimate Spider-Man venom.

[@lewisaino]

The Movie somehow helped the Games

[@LordSleven]

Still love the way the symbiote looks/moves in sm3 way more compared to all the other versions

[@MuriloAraújo-j2x]

Spider-man 3 was really good and had a good venom imo.

[@Styrophoamicus]

Remember when people theorized that the movie "Life" was actually a secret prequel to "Venom"? That would have been pretty cool, honestly.

[@NadeemShekh-uy9zn]

Have you seen Ang Lee's Hulk movie and the 2008 speed racer film I like those movies alot really unique

[@WarpingFist]

The last time I saw And Lee's Hulk was 10 years ago.

[@toomberrebmoot9244]

My only issue with a rated R Venom portrayal is that he would make such a cool horror villain that I feel it would be too easy to turn him into The Thing/Blob in terms of body horror.

[@NadeemShekh-uy9zn]

Do videos on the fantastic four and X-Men movies

[@jahdorose8659]

Great video but Spiderman was never confirmed to show up for more avengers movies

[@f7or1n]

you couldve mentioned the comics used for spiderman 3 like you did for the rest instead of passing it fast

[@WarpingFist]

I wanted this to be about their many Origins and which media pieces adapted them. It wasn't structured like a traditional version of these videos for that reason.

[@f7or1n]

@@WarpingFist it just puts it in a bad scene and makes it seem intentional

[@tobiaspegues7318]

Nice video. Are you gonna see Madam Web next month

[@WarpingFist]

Nah

[@TheBlindFighter]

I like that venom is at the same height as the hulk

[@greendragon5682]

awsome video warping fist 👽👽👽👽

[@Temprix]

7:56 Does anyone know the name of this song? I really like this part

[@Pascanchik.]

Great video!

[@garfielflasaga1781]

Have you considered making a vid about the cancelles factor 5 superman game?

[@The_Infamous_Boogyman]

Missed ya buddy

[@mangaloveranix8412]

Venom in Earth-1045 for Marvel's Spider-Man 2 is like the most ferocious, defiantly irritating boss. I prefer him. I can't wait to see MCU Spiderman vs. MCU Venom or MCU Spider-Man facing to dress into MCU Symbiote Spider-Man. I lovely appreciate Ultimate Venom. He is made as a secret human weapon. He wants to keep on wrecking the life of Peter Parker until he sucks into a trap.

[@Venom_eddie123]

And one of the worst written

[@dreamybulllxxx]

idk how some of you people like venom in spidermid 2. he's literally just hulk. just a giant raging beast only to be a giant raging beast. not at all threatening to peter himself and is just a threat to the entire world, because insomniac wanted a large scale cosmic threat for their esg sweetbaby marvel movie written game

[@Dachin55555]

@@Venom_eddie123No not really

[@Dachin55555]

@@dreamybulllxxxThat’s what makes him badass and dangerous

[@Venom_eddie123]

@Dachin55555 not really it removes everything unique about him he doesn't stalk peter , he doesn't use mind games to play with peter , and he doesn't even shoot webs

[@MuriloAraújo-j2x]

Controversial opinion but i bloody love topher graces venom.

[@dreamybulllxxx]

its good. raimi did what he could with a character he didn't really know or care about. a few things about the adaptation is iffy, but overall topher and raimi did a decent job. at least, much better than stuff like sony venom or spidermid 2 venom

[@Goku23864]

​@@dreamybulllxxxmid maguire is the worst adaptation of Spiderman

[@Goku23864]

​@@dreamybulllxxxSam Raimi ruined the character of spider man

[@dreamybulllxxx]

@@Goku23864 okay insoymniac fan 💀💀💀 people that hate peter parker and wrote sm2. you're definitely no more than 12 years old

[@Goku23864]

@@dreamybulllxxx blud mad that Tobey trilogy was complete garbage same with his villains 😂😂

[@joker-sh5hv]

The venom movies are terrible and do literally nothing right when it comes to venom. Tom hardy does fine playing tom hardy.

[@iamme4494]

TBH I fear Eddie Brock in the 90’s

[@WarpingFist]

90's Eddie Brock isn't real, he can't hurt you

[@iamme4494]

@@WarpingFist he felt real

[@Venom_eddie123]

So why is venom's name is venom in Spider-man 2 even though he doesn't want to kill spider-man

[@dreamybulllxxx]

because big scary angry popular monster villain. the people who wrote sm2 were NOT spider-man fans. they focused more on pushing political bullshit to comply with dei standards

[@MuriloAraújo-j2x]

@@dreamybulllxxx agree

[@Dachin55555]

@@dreamybulllxxxDamn you really can’t accept a new adaptation of Venom lol be quiet goofy ah

[@MrDumdumkilla]

With the hate towards Tom Hardy Venom. Just dont bother with it then. Maybe they wont make pt.3 and you can be happy 😂. Its not that bad as everyone makes it

[@MarvelSonicFan04]

I'm early

[@2cool-he6ih]

Make a cinematic legacy of Superman video dude

[@skepticaltheorist]

They’ll be able to do venom in the mcu Sony venom’s last movie is this year. Secret wars(without delays) will be released in 2027 and I guess that spider-man 4 will happen maybe 2028 or 2029 if we’re lucky.

[@BigNutJuice]

nice