Warranty Update -[BIGTIME FAIL with This Cheap Gun...[SCARY]]

[@garyshrum2076]

If you have any left of the split case box, I would try one or two rounds. That may prove a problem with the cases on that lot. I actually think they did good in sending you a new rifle. Can’t wait to see an update on this one.

[@davidransom4476]

Put them in with the stamping on the base of the case in the same position.

[@myanaloglife9450]

Good news! They stood behind the product, honestly I would have been happier if it was defective, no problem found is the worse leaves you wondering, but they stood tall sent a new one, so still good! Thanks Adam

[@forrestebert5276]

I feel they did find a lot of issues with the original rifle Adam had! They did stand behind their product and that is good for the consumer and the company.

[@goinhot9133]

It’s not always a company standing behind their product lmao.. It’s a numbers game. Hypothetically If you know 20% of your products are faulty, but only 3% get returned, it might be more costly to fix the 20% going out than it is to replace the 3% that people warranty. So no, it’s not always just a matter of standing behind a product because it’s a good one to stand behind.. it might just be cheaper to replace the few warranties than it is to fix the deeper issues..

[@myanaloglife9450]

@ true, however, when I was young, I worked at an auto shop, mechanic syndrome, is a real thing, that’s what we called a situation that happened all the time but the moment you came to the mechanic it went away, to come back immediately after you left, that’s why “unable to duplicate” is so annoying..we won’t know what really happened, that being said we all know some companies would have done nothing, they replaced it.. good.

[@aceman1126]

If you still have some of that Federal ammo test it in the new gun... maybe its just a bad box of ammo? Im curious to see how this one turns out. Thanks for rollin the dice for us bud!

[@MikeMalkowski]

The splits were all pretty consistent. I was thinking it could have been bad brass also.

[@aceman1126]

@MikeMalkowski 100% i have some old af 7.62x25 that will always split cases. My tokarev and cz52 run it fine and new ammo doesn't split so I know the guns are fine.

[@philm.9089]

I would NOT shoot any more of that ammo. More than likely the brass is either too thin or brittle. Federal makes great ammo but every manufacturer has issues from time to time. If it is the ammo, you could have a firearm blow up on you in your face from the pressurized gas escaping through those case cracks. One big warning sign was the case going further into the chamber/barrel, especially with a straight case. I had a Glock 40 cal. blow up on me due to a case head separation. There wasn't much of the handgun left to reuse afterwards, but I was lucky enough to survive unscathed. Scared me to death. Send the remaining ammo with the box to Federal for them to check out. They may send you a new box in return.

[@robertfandel9442]

Doubt it was the ammo .

[@tasaman]

A case that splits at the neck is not real dangerous. Not in a long straight wall cartridge like 350 Legend.

[@dads2006gt]

Rossi did the right thing 👏. Looking forward to follow up videos.

[@davidgooding6463]

I sent a single shot Rossi in for repair. They said they had no parts to repair. I could either buy a new gun or get my gun returned. I chose to get my gun back. Upon return delivery I found Rossi removed my firing pin. They didn’t want me to have a rifle back that still had issues. Dirty

[@1974webby]

Great deal glad to hear they stand behind there product.

[@sharonw2475]

THEIR !!

[@Lance-uu3qr]

​@@sharonw2475You really gotta be a DOUCHE!? WE ALL KNOW!! Shut TF up and make us a sandwich...!

[@reedpitts9061]

Wow! Good for Rossi. Sounds like they really did a lot to try to replicate the failure and still sent a new rifle just in case. Strange that it didn’t happen again. Seems like it might have been that lot of ammo.

[@stevesexton4316]

This highlights the difference between a cheap gun and a budget friendly gun. Sometimes you will get a “good one” but more often than not… you’ll get a cheap gun with QA issues. I remember when single shots were $60-$80 and you didn’t have any issues with them. My first deer kill in Indiana was with a Steven’s-Savage 16 gauge. My grandpa gave it to my dad when he was 12 and my dad gave it to me when I was 12. Still have it and it works. Those days are long gone my friend.

[@ericcole6228]

Thats crazy, im kinda leaning towards bad brass as well, but that is great the sent a new rifle to you. Can't wait to see what happens in testing.

[@erroneous6947]

No such thing as a freak accident 8 times in a row brother. Love your channel.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching

[@pnwguy221]

Run that same box of ammo through the new rifle like the last guy said. Maybe it was the ammo itself. Thanks for the great videos

[@clintonlayne9253]

Adam , I had a factory box of S & B in 7.62 x 54 . I experienced split cases as well. I think the brass was brittle. So no reloading those cases . Good Luck 🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌 Chasing .

[@blenhinton7566]

It certainly could be a bad batch of ammo. I had a issue with my glock 23 one time. It had run fine with every ammo I had put through it. Aluminum, brass, steel cased, it didn't matter. Then one particular box of ammo turned it into a jam o matic. Just saying i have seen ammo do weird stuff before. I have not had an issue with it since.

[@Bryan-zf9jt]

I've had same issues with older brass ammo in my 1985 JM stamped 30-30. Switched to new box from store and no issues after. No issues out of my Rossi with about 1000 rounds through it so far.

[@geico1975]

WOW! Can't believe how that brass split like that, crazy. A neat rifle if it holds up I guess. Man, I thought I got one heck of a deal on a .308 a few months ago. A fellow I know, sold me a Savage 110 rifle with a Vortex scope plus 60 rounds of.308 WIN, only been shot a handful of times,. and most of them was him zeroing everything in. $450 out the door:) Can't wait to take it in the woods in a few more weeks.

[@resurrectiongarage1506]

I didn’t see any Rossi rifles when I was shopping for a.350 a couple months ago, we were going to get the cva for around $400 but our local dealer had a brand new savage axis with a banner 2 scope for $450 so I chose that one. It does seem to not want to feed the third round ( very specific it will flawlessly feed 1,2, 3 nose dives in the mag but one you correct that it feeds 4 no problem) savage sent me a new magazine that feels like it has more pressure at the front of the follower but haven’t tested it yet. Alternative season is over and next weekend is modern and my .243 comes into play again.

[@mauricelone]

In the UK we have a problem with CCI ammo , 22 long rifle has a 1 in 8 failure to detonate in different types of rifles.

[@jakeoly5109]

Wow thats pretty crazy. CCI is the brand I go to for reliability in both rimfire and primers. Sorry you all have such terrible luck with them!

[@Salieri47]

That's unusual for CCI, even their 'medium quality' ammo is usually reliable.

Adam, it’s good to see a company that stands behind their products and took good care of you. I’m looking forward to seeing your range test on this new rifle.

[@keithhudson8522]

it may be your suppressor creating back pressure on that gun i would have to see the primers and the case head would be more telling or the brass was not hardened properly, Keith

[@davidscroggins5853]

Thanks for the information brother strange issue do not understand the situation but you got a new gun love the show

[@Cr0wmagnum]

I don't remember exactly that first video on that, but I do remember watching it. If that was the only box of ammo you used, it could have been an ammo issue. I have experienced split case issues very similar. A bad lot of .22 mag is the first thing that comes to mind as well as a 30-30 and a .357 mag. I have two Rossi Bing bangs, and both shoot very well. Just make sure to Loctite all the screws before you shoot it!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

2 different boxes of ammo

[@tommeboy3334]

You had bad ammo. I find split 350's all the time at our public range. They are split or have no primers. It is usually ALWAYS FED ammo that does it. Sometimes it is Hornady. But I had 2 boxes of that 180gr when the 350 First came out. It blew every primer pocket out.

[@timparkhurst8661]

There is also lots of discussions online about it, so yeah, well known 350 issues. Thanks for the input.

[@JohnSnead-l5n]

It might be the ammo! I had the same thing happen with Hornady 30/30 leverevolution in a new Winchester 30/30 I contacted Hornady and told them about it and sent them Pictures of the split brass, and the horrible groups the ammo shot. They wanted the lot numbers of my ammo. They got back with me, and told me my ammo was over 10 yrs old and the brass had become brittel, which they says happens with time. They offered no replacement . I told them I did not know their ammo had a 10 yr shelf life!!!!! I told them I had .22 rimfire ammo well over 30 yrs old and their brass does not split. But hey, thats rimfire.

[@garymckee63]

I have shot British 303 rounds from the 1930's that shot well.

[@toddk1377]

I call bs on that too. How many of us have shot ammo that's well over 15-20 years old and no splits, cracks, if anything, a dud or hard primer in the bunch.

[@erniecummings9255]

​@garymckee63 I had a whole brick of 7.62 x 51 shells still wrapped in army green heavy plastic can't remember how many shells it was for sure but also afraid to say how old but they had to be at least 40yrs old every one of them fired excellent with no issues

[@kdoggoutdoors]

Mil surp ammo can be well over 50 years old and it doesnt have issues if stored properly.

[@blackhawk7r221]

So John, how does your new Winchester chamber treat other brands of ammo? I ask because I’ve seen cases of chamber reamers not being centered correctly on the factory machines. But yea, never heard of brass getting brittle unless it was chemically compromised.

[@goldeneaglearbor614]

Huge fan of the new rossi revolvers, ive put a good bit of ammo through my rp63 with no issue. Shame something was up with rifle but im glad to hear they have some pretty good customer service.

[@scottcooksey5284]

He got very lucky, probably because of who he is and he posted it on his channel. They had my rev for 11 months and 14 days. Then they sent me back a Taurus, saying my rev failed the safety test. 6 shot blued Rossi for a 5 shot pakerized Taurus, sounds fair don't it?

[@theguyinmaine]

Rossi has a lot of problems. These cheap guns are getting that way by lack of craftsmanship and tolerances. I got a new Mossberg 500 and luckily, I decided to change the choke before checking how is shoots. The choke that was in it, 1/2 was missing, the rest was bent up blocking the barrel. Took it back and bought an old 60's Wingmaster with a full choke barrel. Talked to a dealer a few months ago and he got a Mossberg in that the barrel was split 1/2 it's length, new in the box.

[@williambotts635]

My local Walmart here in Kentucky have a 30.06 stainless Savage Axis 2 for only $324. The manager says that they are gonna carry the pro's so they getting rid of the older models. He told me a 350 legend Savage was only $250 the other day and they sold all those out.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

WOW

[@williambehrend5452]

Local Walmart stores to me sold there axis stainless rifles for 299.00 just to get rid of them

[@caleharris6252]

I had an older Rossi in .243 that did the same thing, and i tried several different brands of ammo. I took it to a local gun shop and he wound up rplacing the whole barrel. He told me the chamber was out of spec.

[@josephmedeiros5770]

Guess we'll never really know if it was the gun, ammo, or a combination of both. If you still have that ammo, you could try it in a different gun and see if it happens again. Straight walled is pretty forgiving. The chamber would have to be fairly oversized to cause splitting. I would think you'd notice it in a breach loading singke action. My bet is a faulty cartridge casing on the ammo. Something with the annealing of the case after forming. That would cause it to be brittle. Thank God you noticed it. That struck case could've been disastrous. Thanks for the great videos!

[@chrisdeterman3247]

I knee jerk reaction when seeing the split cases is that the ammunition was at fault. Perhaps the brass was bad or the load was too hot.

[@Courier-Six]

I can tell you this, customer service is the reason why, to this day, I will never buy another Rossi product. Owned a .357 Magnum R92 Stanless Carbine model. Not big on stainless, but never had any issues with it. Still, I sold it on and picked up a .45 Colt Rifle R92. Loaded some snap caps in it to check the action. After racking the lever twice, the action was totally seized up. Turns out the Shell Stop had sheared off and frozen the action. The rifle was completely Deadman-ed without firing it once. I sent it back to Braztech for warranty service. I spent 8 months waiting trying to hear what was going on with my rifle. Bugging them every two months with them telling me they were waiting on parts. It finally came to the point I snapped, asked the girl if she knew the year. 2023. "Are you sure it isn't 1823? I've been waiting on a part I was told was in stock for 8 months and that I could have installed myself!" Issue got escalated to a department head who offered me a rifle of the same price or a refund. I tried arguing for a rifle with 24-inch barrels, but they said, "That wasn't a square deal since it cost more than the rifle I sent in." Then I justified it with sales tax and background check fees. Sent them the receipt to show it but they still held their ground. Finally, I just demanded a refund. I will never buy another Rossi or taurus product so long as I live

[@jamestboehm6450]

Federal brass isn't top-notch brass to begin with. As a reloader Fed brass is 5th or6th choice to reload IMO.

[@edeldridge36]

Disappointing performance from the rifle, but props to Rossi for taking care of the problem. With the problems you had they may be going over it with a fine tooth comb to try to figure out if there is a common problem with them, so they can hopefully improve.

[@harryfish7939]

I quit using Federal years ago when the brass expanded and couldn’t eject from my Marlin lever action. Ended up taking it to a gunsmith to get it out

[@petermonck5448]

Good service. Put a lot of $ trying to duplicate. That might be a concern that they encountered. Kept rifle Hopefully for research. I'm 5'8", so that Rossi is a good fit for me. Cool video 📹

[@bowhuntn80]

Talking to my dad about this issue, he said he had a T/C contender back in the day that was splitting brass, and it turned out to be a headspace issue. So if you was to have anymore problems maybe look into that. Good luck 👍

[@mikepoint4717]

Budget friendly or not , it was good of them to send a new one your way Adam , let’s see ya sling some bullits with the husher and without. Cheers 🇨🇦

[@WHOTEEWHO]

👍👍

[@richardhillier442]

Howdy Adam, wonder if that "shush-can" allowed too much pressure for that brass to work properly. 😮 That sure looks like a nice "brush gun"😅

[@lynncox760]

I wish you had thought to take it to your smith first and get him to spec out the chamber because there is absolutely no way you would have had concentric splits like that if it was a problem with the ammo. Even a sheet of brass with a weak line wouldn't have split almost exactly the same. ONLY an out of spec chamber would have caused those splits to be so even. Basically, imagine pressing metal with a press and mold. If the mold has a crack and the metal is being pressed to it's limits then it will crack right with the crack in the mold. 50-55k pounds of pressure in a millisecond, especially in a pulse-wave, can cause all kinds of chaos if your chamber is out of spec.

[@mrdnrandall12]

I wonder if it’s the Hornady ammo?… I was out zeroing my .300 RUM with 220gr ELD-X and I had a one round that had the case split just like yours did. They weren’t hand loads and they were all factory loaded from the store.

[@wizardofahhhs759]

Ruger did the same to me, said there was nothing wrong with the rifle but sent me a new one anyway. But I was having the same issue with the new one so I got rid of it and bought a Winchester Model 70 and never looked back.

[@davidstuck2866]

If you haven't yet, maybe you should contact Federal about the ammunition. You may have a bad lot of ammo. The only time I have had brass split like that is really old 45-70 brass that had been resized and reloaded 15 times. It had just been work hardened from being resized so many times. That can happen at the factory. typically, a peice of brass gets annealed several times during production. And if they forgot to anneal it properly just before it was loaded, that could cause the brass to crack like that.

[@lkilkenny9426]

NAILED IT!! The last operation of factory case forming is the final annual of the neck and a short section of the main case body immediately below the neck. For some who may not know, annealing is heating the brass to a designated temperature, to soften it so it can stretch to seal the chamber, rather than splitting due time the extreme pressures of firing.

[@ted5782]

They spent half the price of the gun in ammo testing then sent you a new one anyways. You can't ask for better warranty service than that.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

👍👍

[@Dragonfiregum]

I bought some 5.56 during covid from federal where the majority split the case necks. Still have some unfired boxes with the lot number.

[@ronsorrentino6207]

I’d now contact the ammunition manufacturer and include a copy of the video. I’d maybe also include a copy of Rossi’s reply. It’s entirely possible the brass in the box or entire batch of ammunition is brittle from the manufacturing process or a particular step in the process that was missed or done wrong? Definitely try a few rounds out of that same box of ammunition and see if it does the same thing in this new rifle. Obviously if it does the same thing, it wasn’t the rifle. It was/is a bad batch of ammunition (brass).

[@1dkollar]

I had the same issue with a batch of brand new Lapua .308 brass. Most of the cases split at the neck after the first firing. I load mid range loads for target shooting and none of my other cases had split cases upon the first firing. My guess the brass or heat treatment was off with my batch of Lapua brass. It has not happened since with the Lapua brass. My guess is the issue was with the brass and not the rifle, wrong mix of brass alloy or improper heat treatment.

[@trevorgale1176]

Regardless of if they could or could not duplicate your results (would they admit it?), the other rifle was a dud. Yes, the ammo could be a bad batch but it's unlikely given a proof load. However, dud's happen and it's great to see they just replaced the rifle. Great stuff Rossi.

[@TARandFEATHERS]

I bought one of the most expensive ROSSI R92 20" .357 mag and it sits in my closet because every rd I fired is bulged. ROSSI said that is common and nothing to worry about. After spending a hundred bucks to have it repaired right out of the box for not working.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yikes

[@miker9043]

Hope you have a good one this time ! just out of curiosity i would like to see you run some rounds of that leftover box in a different rifle to see if the ammo is defective .

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Already shot it in 2 other rifles. No issue

[@robertheywood141]

Sounds like a great company that stands behind their products and is looking out for our safety EVEN when they couldn't reproduce the failure. I'm sure there's companies that would've just sent the rifle back to you saying it's fine.

[@maximpestsolutions3696]

I hope this Pewpew will work out better for you Adam 👌. Thanks for the Video 👍. Cheers 🙏🇨🇦✝️

[@johnballantyne6853]

My friend bought a box of Winchester .243 ammo and the first 9 cases split at the necks. This had never happened before or since, so i’m guessing just bad brass !

[@danp4203]

It’s good they sent a new one. I can’t believe wonder why they didn’t send the old back to you. Why would they? That’s how they keep a customer happy. If it did possibly happen again. He’d be sending it back again. Then he’d be mad as a customer to go through that process for a second time.

[@danielbosch5512]

I believe you had a headspace issue,,according to my ol Lyman, manuals,& the brass you displayed, looks as if it's headspace,or,an overbored chamber,,& that would cause the intermediate issues, of some brass splitting, & some not splitting,,Rossi probably just sent a new gun,to,,cover their ass,,that's my opinion..looking forward for more videos, now that I've got a busted leg,& can't walk,or drive,& relearning new ways of doing things,,like going to the restroom,,soo,I gotta set out deer season,,but I ""WILL VOTE"" FIGHT,,FIGHT,,

[@codydickerson3866]

I just picked up the same gun and got 2 boxes of hornady American whitetail shoot 4rounds of it and all of them went in front of the ejector some how but case looked good. I tried Winchester and browning ammo and all of those worked great. Contacted hornady and sent pictures they have never heard of that happening but those were the only rounds that I had a problem with.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Hmm

[@billjensen6216]

I have a Rossi 22 mag and it did the same thing. Split the cases 90% of the time and would put a bulge on the side of the case by the primer area. I sent it back to Rossi. They let the FFL know they got it. Said they tested it, said they cleaned it. And told the FFL they couldn't get it to do the same thing. I sent them the bad cases as proof of the problem. They sent it back to my FFL when I got it back it was still dirty and still had the same problem. So, to say the least about Rossi, I'm not impressed. I believe it's the springs in the BCG setup letting the bolt open before the pressure drops to a proper level. Yes, mine is a semi-automatic Rossi. Yet the same issue.

[@Ken-s7c]

Suppressors on single shot rifles can cause excessive pressure had this issue in a couple rifles/barrels especially when they are cheaper manufacturers the tolerances just arent there for 55k psi plus a suppressor.

[@jakleo337]

I was looking for a used , bang around, back of the farm truck bolt action in .22 mag (WMR). Could not find one for less than $600!!! Then on Black Friday last year I got a new Rossi for $150. Thank you Rossi.

[@adamlairsey6700]

I mentioned in a comment above that I had three Rossi's and didnt care for them, they were 12G, .410 and a revolver and I didn't care for them, but if it's a deal where it's a certain caliber such as 5.7 or .22WMR it would be fine, but for a 12G or .410 etc. I would just stick to Remington/Browning/Benelli etc.

[@thomasallen3818]

If you use the same box of 350 Legend Federal ammo, you may get more split cases and that would answer the question about whether it was the ammo lot or the rifle.

[@howarddeheer8295]

I had wondered about bad brass . We was having a service rifle match a guy up line from was shooting a m1a1. I don't remember ammo he was shooting but case split all way around the bottom case came out the rest of the casing was stuck in the chamber

[@lostcreek7551]

Seen the worst case issues with ammo and firearms, from South America. Armscor and endless squib loads. Then Rossi has always been questionable.

[@wayneblair288]

Might have been just a bad batch of brass . I will keep with my H&R 13 Barrels still not enough.

[@Salieri47]

I'm looking forward to the shooting update. I can understand why they kept the 'bad' rifle, but that also makes me question their claim the rifle tested fine. Also a new replacement could've been -- most likely was? -- cherrypicked. Best case scenario their rifles are fine, you just happened to get some bad ammo. Thanks for sharing the experience with us!

[@OverlandOne]

Might be an ammo issue? Try some from your box in the new gun then, try some from a different batch of Federal in the new gun. Evidence seems to indicate a bad batch of ammo IF what Rossi told you was true about their testing. You could also send Rossi several of the rounds from your box. This should give you a definitive answer on what the issue is.

[@OleDirtyMacSanchez]

Who-Tee-Who, sounds like Improper Annealing for the Brass. If a Heat Treat and or Annealing isn't done correctly, you tend to get Catastrophic Failures Which is VERY DEADLY to have happen in Firearms.

[@davemcmullen6682]

You can buy good deer rifle cheaper than you had to pay 25 yrs ago..seems I remember the Ruger Mod 77 and the Remington Mod 700 were priced $600 to $700 back then...I guess the plastic synthetic stocks are alot cheaper to produce than the wooden stocks...I have found I actually prefer the plastic stocks..less maintenance..

[@WillardGrant]

I've been reloading for about 30 years and seen a lot of cases split due to old or weak case I bought some 20 year old ammo for a 7x57 muser everyone of spilt on the first fring

[@elvinirons5959]

Glad they stood behind there product, hopefully this unit will be great !

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yeah I hope so too.

[@aaronsteele7585]

Picked up a cva stalker in 270 with a stainless bergara heavy barrel for $80 brand new on clearance about 10 years ago and it is the best shooter i own out of many higher end rifles...i love my single shot break barrel! Got a good one!!

[@jimmydunn3775]

I have seen patina spots on brass and that brass was brittle as a cookie. I would believe anything about defects after seeing that.

[@keithhicks9196]

I believe the first one had an over sized chamber. If it didn’t I don’t think they would have replaced the whole rifle. Should have done a chamber cast and compare the dimensions with SAMI spects

[@LeoBaker-ir3vo]

That split brass made my back door clench up.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yikes

[@LeoBaker-ir3vo]

Is there a link in the description to the video where you shot the defective one and got the split brass?

[@floridagunrat1625]

He said split brass, not split a**!!!

[@LeoBaker-ir3vo]

@floridagunrat1625 ask Scot from KB which is worse. He bought a rifle from Mark Serbu, and he's from Kentucky. So I'm sure he's familiar with both.

[@camwinston5248]

​@@LeoBaker-ir3voyep..but he had also bought some REloaded Slap rounds of unknown origin for the 50bmg that were way overloaded that caused the blown up rifle...NEVER use reloads of any kind you know nothing about.

[@Abbonorvall]

Since your video on those split cases I have had the same problem with a Ruger American 17HMR only on certain batches of Winchester ammo. All the others are fine so I don't think it's my rifle. Took some to my local gunstore and was told I ain't the lone ranger with Winchester 17HMR split cases.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yikes

[@Doc-Holliday1776]

Great info, thank you for the update.

[@tbthedozer]

I hope it’s not bad brass working its way to market. I had a Federal 22 LR go paffut the other day and the whole rim had blown off leaving the wall in the chamber…🤨 I haven’t had bad brass from Federal before but I also haven’t been to the range in a few years 🤷‍♂️

[@Manco65]

Ill be looking forwards to a range report hopefully without the previous issues. I've been around long enough and had experiences with different makes and models to know that they all crank out lemons now and then.

[@charlesmorgan1879]

Hope this one's good but as I've seen and heard almost every company can let one slip through QC and how its handled after an issue make a big djfference !

[@slightenigma]

Wow, a straight walled cartridge with split cases like that is scary

[@ramseycattn5941]

My guess is the brass was either not annealed or not annealed properly at the factory.

[@Qsoutdoors-NZ]

Had an old Rossi Pomba recently sold it as it didn't suit me

[@kevinz763]

Bad batch of cases would be my guess thin brass. Try that same lot in another gun

[@BLACKOUT-kv4xk]

Try different ammo from it to see if it's actually the ammo or not. Also i wish it was mandatory that gun manufacturers have to show a video of 3 test shots if its gone for warranty.

[@roncron964]

I bought a Rossi survival for my daughter. We tried 4 different types of ammo and it would not group smaller than 6 in at 50 yards. I sent it in under warranty and was told they were replacing barrel. This has been 6 weeks now and haven’t heard back. I was going to to buy the 350 legend just like your, until i watched your video and saw all the same problems I was having with the survival using 45 lc. I even tried shooting the 410 slugs( after changing the choke to shoot gun ) and it still would not group. I hope they get these bugs worked out.

[@yabba5696]

As a reloader I know if you over anneal your case and you actually soften the case body/casehead you'll run into splitting problems. Also, if the brass is stretching more than usual from say the chamber not being within tolerance or if you're oversizing your brass, if it was from being overloaded you would pop the primer before you would split the case, maybe they had some bad brass come through Federal, I just find it funny that they didn't send you the same gun back even though they claimed nothing was wrong with it, I don't know of any other manufacturer that would do that

[@sapago4166]

Case splitting typically happens to work hardened brass that has not been properly annealed.

[@yabba5696]

@sapago4166 this is clearly not one of those cases buddy, please do your research and make more educated comments, the next thing you know Bob and Jim's going to be annealing to case body because of your comment right here, and hurt somebody or themselves or mess their gun up forever

[@yabba5696]

@sapago4166 Yes but it almost always happens when you size it, not when you shoot it, I've reloaded for 26 years and I've never once had a case split after shooting it. I always have them split when I size them, and I've never seen factory ammunition do that.

[@yabba5696]

Even a straight wall cartridge will almost always just split at the beginning of the case mouth not the actual case body, and what you're referring to is almost strictly indicative to bottleneck cartridges which that is not

[@Majeskty]

If they couldn’t duplicate the issue ‘WHY WOULDN’T THEY SEND BACK THE ORIGINAL’? Seems fishy! Did they send spent cases or photo/video of their testing? Good luck on next round of testing. I was suspecting it would have been an unsupported, mis-reamed chamber. Your ammo seems good quality, if not they should be contacted about your discovery for their quality control. Best to you!

[@brucekimbrell1258]

Have a Rossi RB .17 great little gun for very little money!

[@benhuntinfish44]

Sounds like a bad lot of ammo. Can't say I've ever had any problems with Federal, but maybe that was the problem.

[@zoeyshoots]

Dang it!! I’ve got to have it. I’m a big single shot fan.. but I have to get it around the misses some how.. I hate you! This happens every time I watch one of your videos. !! But I’ll get through it… again 👍

[@WHOTEEWHO]

🤣🤣🤣

[@wilmamcdermott3065]

There is a head space issue with those any time a case moves further in than it is supposed to

[@WilsonRawlins]

Chamber could've been slightly oversized towards the front bore. Say nothing wrong was found so it doesn't become the loose thread on a sweater. Everyone starts pulling on it. ;D Rossi did right to replace it with a new one for you.

[@Dwayne7834]

Good they did a good job with the warranty 👍🇺🇸

[@chamberedfreedom]

I had a Rossi in .270 and HATED it ! It was so light that the barrel would jump and I could never sight it in ! I took it back to the dealer and got something else.

[@Swampytheroot]

Without muzzle velocity to get an idea of pressure, it's impossible to make any logical conclusions.

[@Dan_Akins]

The new gun at range will answer the question. Hope you chronograph those boolets for reference.

[@donbenson5292]

I would have doing some measurements before i sent it back. That is a definite chamber failure. It could be the brass but i doubt it. Been tuning up my 350 legends.. last group at the range went a half inch at 200 yards with my loads. I am not fond of Rossi

[@steveburlingame1935]

Good reveiw i had a ruger american 450bushmaster that blew the barrel sent it back to ruger never heard a dam thing back from them they wont even answer my emails

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yikes

[@steveburlingame1935]

@WHOTEEWHO i ware a baseball cap when i shoot peices of the barrel where in it

[@devenstone3426]

Hey im pretty sure its the ammo. I bought that same stuff for my 350 and i found and still have 4 rounds that had not been fired with split brass like that. Ive been using the 350 for a few years now and thats the only ammo ive ever seen do this.

[@arthurshingler2025]

I've had some good success with these Rossi single shots. I did buy a used one in a 30-06 that had a poor chamber. Excessive headspace and firing pin would not strike the center of the primers (off center). Someday I'll try to send it off to get it fixed. Used guns? Buyer beware!!!

[@pasqualinoiannelli4275]

I was told years ago to never touch a Rossi. Man, am I glad I listened. I lowkey don't believe Rossi. I feel like there's something they're not telling you.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@JonFox-t5x]

I have a Rossi R92 357 lever in triple black. I did a deburring and polish job on it. It’s smoother and more accurate than my son’s Henry rifles and he has three. The hammers on all three of his Henry’s are wobbly and cheaply made. Very surprised with that.

[@sammylacks4937]

Could it be the chamber being oversized. Understand headspacing just wondering if chamber had diameter issue.

[@erroneous6947]

@@sammylacks4937I think that’s likely.

[@toznerd6369]

Makes me really appreciate my old NEF/H&R Handi-Rifles.

[@davidransom4476]

I don't know how Federal runs the process of manufacturing the cases, but if you still have the cases that split, line them up with the printing on the base all in the same orientation and see if it was the same side of the case on all of them. I doubt you put them in the chamber exactly the same, so if it was always on the same side, I would think Federal had a problem somewhere.