Warriors vs. Cavs Aftermath: Does the NBA have a super team problem? | THE HERD

[@WestCoastDon448]

every cowherd show ever. LeBron, Nick saban, bama, belicheck, Brady.

[@dwaynewhite2744]

WestCoastDon448 true, he needs a different angle,

[@WestCoastDon448]

Dwayne White I forgot silicon valley

[@aepr84]

+Dwayne White divorce

[@bryanweil271]

Dads

[@NathanaelRyerson]

westbrook, ratings

[@CashKD]

Jim Jackson is a great analyst.

[@nameless5769]

i just had a flashbak of the Dallas' Triple-J in the mid-90's..Jim, Jason & Jamal..

[@spectralknights2]

kendrickmills41 better than chris boussard

[@csf6364]

jerville1 u high

[@MichaelP-ke1tm]

idk about anyone else but ill be watching about 10 games next season and just wait for the playoffs

[@ShutThePuck]

You never loved Basketball to begin with.

[@jalennelson6599]

I will try to watch all of my Sixers games. Watch Warriors games to see who beats them nightly. Watch Lonzo Ball to see how he plays. If Chris Paul goes to SA, I want to see that. I want to see if the T-Wolves make a playoff push with another year together. I want to see De'Aaron Fox play. I am interested in Pelicans, Gordon Hayward, the Cavs, will Russ get fed up, and John Wall. See there is many things to look forward to.

[@JesusShuttlesworth]

You look like the Professor

[@jebkush1052]

I wanna see more Super teams please.

[@teazy7468]

Now begins life without sports until NFL season 🤔

[@plutotech]

word. last year it was the olympics at least. Its gonna be a long summer.

[@thechamps4141]

MrEazy7468 i said the same thing last night....come on august

[@robbyrd2834]

Sean May I'll take training camp at this point

[@jic333]

MrEazy7468 MLB

[@rockjm9876543210]

MrEazy7468 Please somebody beat the pats

[@NeoPR95]

The problem now is that ONE team is clearly better than the rest and no one can compete with them.

[@NeoPR95]

Back in 2011-2012 for example, there were the Heat, Bulls, Celtics, Spurs, and Lakers. No team was clearly better than the rest and they could all compete with each other and make things more interesting than they are now that everybody thinks and knows GS is getting to the Finals and winning.

[@kambuibomani231]

NeoPR95 what a freaking stretch. The warriors are beatable cats just gotta build their teams to compete against elite comp not finessing the fans by tanking

[@jamesanderson1431]

A healthy spurs team can compete

[@doofus9575]

It's not that we want Wizards-Jazz in the finals (well maybe I do, since I'm a wizards fan). It's that we don't want this much separation between a) the Warriors and the Cavs and b) those two teams and all the other teams in the conferences. We want the playoffs to be competitive and they're not. Disagree strongly with these guys.

[@fba2264]

Dennis JOM JACKSON REPRESENTS BASKETBALL POORLY.

[@manchesterunitedno7]

You don't want much separation. My advice, tell your favorite team management to GIT GUD! At least Wizard seems halfway getting there.

[@velvetlensfilms3290]

Hey if your wizards can pick up a player or two then good for them. It's not warriors fault they're good and everyone wants to play for them. Warriors have a good front office that's willing to pay.

[@jaylock9twenty5]

Dennis how about hold the other coaches accountable?

[@johndoe-ii1ko]

Dennis Talk about wanting competitiveness? You should know better than anyone with your team being in the east, that conference hasn't been competitive since 2010. The east is Lebron's scrimmage/practice, that's why he's so overwhelmed when he plays a legit West team in the finals.

[@larryking2698]

NBA need to do something about the salary cap. The NFL is able to keep the game competitive because of it.

[@KNByam]

I agree. If the NBA had a hard cap like the NFL things would be much different. Problem with that is you will need non guaranteed contracts to make a system like that work which the players union will not go for. ;

[@MuhammadKhan-nb5zf]

LarryKing Even if there were a salary cap, the warriors still would have been able to sign KD because majority of the core are underpaid lol. A salary cap would destroy the Cavs though, they are paying like 50 mil in luxury tax

[@BlackSantana]

LarryKing the NFl is not comparable. this is due to 1 game vs 4 to win in the NBA.

[@rustysteiner6202]

oh btw, cleveland is 28 million over the salary cap. if that is to happen, what do you think will also happen to them. lol

[@michaelpreller4025]

the NFL is competitive because talents isn't the only factor that matters like in the NBA. In the NFL coaching, gameplanning, execution, and style of play all make a difference. Also, in football you can impose your will physically on a more talented team and rattle them (like the Giants did to the Patriots in 2007, Broncos against the Panthers a last year, or even Seattle against Denver a few years ago) in the NBA talent 9/10 times is the only thing that matters which is why it is so predictable and boring.

[@kambuibomani231]

Lmao. Bron saying he was never on a super team.... Tell that to the east 😂😂😂

[@Powerlifter83]

Kambui Bomani every team he's on is a super team because of lebron

[@Dolemite19]

Powerlifter83 and 2 other All-stars 😂😂

[@sanantoballa4834]

Dolemite Take Bron off the Cavs... Celtics in the Finals Take Bron off the Heat... Bulls/Celtics make the Finals Take KD off the Warriors... Warriors still make the Finals

[@myname6633]

With KD Warriors were losing to Spurs without Parker by 23 before Kawhi got injured. How can someone easily say without KD Warriors can make the finals still? GSW with KD has a tougher shot imo to win the West than Cavs have to win the East.

[@delfra70]

I think the Warriors would still have a chance to come out the West without KD, but it would be much tougher. I say that because I remember the Warriors handling the Spurs in SA in late March without KD, and that was a game the Spurs badly needed because I think at the time they we're only 2 games behind GS with about 8-9 games left in the regular season.

[@Ggver]

there are only 2 teams now.

[@FabianGarcia-qt1tk]

Gg0ver9000 GSW v CLE = 2018 All Star Game

[@bennyrobinson1935]

it's tough to sneak one by you

[@RayleighSilvers]

2? Forgot about Spurs, Celtics, Raptors, Clippers, Rockets? These teams are also good (they can still win few games against the Cavs and Warriors), and teams like Timberwolves, Bucks, Sixers, and Lakers are starting to grow. You guys do not have to worry about Cavs and Warriors, eventually, another team will rise to take them down. Similar with Magic's Lakers and Bird's Celtics, Isiah's Pistons rose to give them a challenge, then Jordan came to the Bulls and started to dominate.

[@delfra70]

That will indeed eventually happen, teams will get stronger and the Warriors and Cavs will start to get weaker eventually. I just don't see that happening for a few years, especially with the Warriors.

[@koenprins3611]

It's never been like this. The Cavs, the second best team can't even compete with the Warriors. I hope something will change next season.

[@vintagecoco9992]

koen prins Lebron has been swept in the finals before. Lakers beat Iverson in 5. Even Miami's big 3 got dominated by the spurs in their last year

[@ssbmwaddles]

koen prins what are you talking about? The bulls ran threw the playoffs in the against 60 win teams!!! The league has ALWAYS BEEN SUPERTEAM HEAVY. Celtics in the 60s. Celtics, lakers, and pistons in the 80s. Bulls in the 90s. Lakers and spurs in the 2000s. And finally after lebron leaves the cavs it's unfair 🤔. Kd mad the league unfair 🤔

[@EyeLoveTheStars]

Point is, the Cavs still lost those games. Durant came up big in game 3 and as long as the Warriors have the "Durant factor" the Cavs will be in trouble. Cavs still don't play defense. Warriors chemistry will only get better. Keep in mind, this was their 1st year with KD on the roster. These guys are only going to get better as a unit.

[@ShutThePuck]

It won't. Do you even know who's contracted, for how long, and with what options? Cavaliers are completely tied up next season with the same team. No team/player options for anybody noteworthy. Several players are overpaid - Jr, Shumpert, TT, Love - making them more difficult to trade AND Cleveland is a difficult market to attract players to long term. Would PG13 be enough, if traded for Love, to put Cleveland over the top? Would Indiana even accept that trade? Would Cleveland risk losing all of Love's trade value for a player who won't sign long term when they could very easily lose Lebron anyway because there are no guarantee's to win and Lebron has no patience? Cleveland will likely not make any moves this off season, and they'll lose again.

[@ronaldlaury5370]

koen prins So it was cool when James had a super team

[@AlexAlexFV]

They have a talent problem. That's kinda what happens when you dish out these massive contracts without results. Even Lebron admits a good percentage of players in the NBA don't even know how to play basketball.

[@joshcargile9346]

AlexAlexFV Make contracts performance based and the amount of players that will take the game serious will rise immediately. Example only MVPs get the supermax of $230 million

[@dennisgadulka6530]

Fans and the media need to stop using championships as the main measuring stick for a player's greatness. The emphasis on rings has diminished the importance of the regular season, and has played a big role in the forming of these "super teams."

[@armoda1057]

dennis gadulka that is an excellent point. KD didn't get any better as a player from this year to last year, but since he won, people think he is better now. The problem stems from jordan and comparing guys like kobe, lebron, wade, curry and durant to him. The only thing that matters legacy-wise is if you win titles, which is essentially a function of who you play with and who you play against. The NBA has a problem in that the regular season is meaningless. The cavs didn't care at all about it, got the 2 seed behind boston and then absolutely dismantled them in the playoffs. At least last year the warriors and cavs were evenly matched. Durant really did ruin the league.

[@jackchrist6790]

Timothy J. Rooney that's not true, Durant improved his game like crazy over this year. He's a rim protector now. Less turn overs, doesn't stop the ball or stop moving himself anymore. We won't talk about efficiency because of his team upgrade but Durant is on a new level

[@dennisgadulka6530]

Durant had 4 scoring titles and a league MVP all during his time with OKC, but until he won a ring, folks didn't mention him as one of the all-timers. Players feel that having a ring is the only way to establish their legacies and that's why they're willing to cut corners and team up with other stars to get one.

[@CS-wn2sz]

I don't care at all about what's best for the league as far as their numbers are concerned. The quality of the game is worse from my perspective. All I care about is how I consume the product and it's trash imo

[@1titans]

If the Spurs don't lose Tony Parker and Kawhi Leonard, this conversation today may be a lot different. Golden st might not have made it

[@vr2k8]

1titans - If if if, If this if that. Tony Parker and Kawhi Leonard was lost. Golden State still won and just because San Antonio was up that doesn't mean that they would have lost the series, but they could have made it interesting.

[@mrbrasga]

People want competitive balance in the league instead of such a huge gap between #1 and #2. People want greats teams (more than 1-2) competing throughout the year during the season. In the Finals, we want the best 2 teams head-to-head.

[@iron3491]

I wouldn't have a problem watching a Utah- Washington Finals series. Both teams are really fun as of now and if they do make the Finals in this hypothetical scenario, they are clearly the two best teams. Of course I would watch that series

[@mucknar]

so its not about the product anymore, its about talking points? is the NBA the WWE now?

[@vlopez078]

Beau Lavallee thank you

[@fba2264]

Beau Lavallee JIM JACKSON IS A Clown and doesn't know shyt about basketball.

[@s0459054]

Yes. Pro sports wouldn't exist without sports media to frame results into stories. I think it's better stories with good guys and bad guys, big dogs and underdogs. This is why dominant, polarizing teams and athletes like Yankees, Real Madrid and Barcelona, Floyd Mayweather, and now GSW get great ratings compared to eras of across the board mediocrity.

[@manchesterunitedno7]

Sport is about talking point. If not, what you get is MLB when the interest only peaking come World Series. That's why Mayweather x Pacquiao saga, Ronaldo x Messi, The rise and fall of Tiger Woods, Pistons Bad Boys and Kobe/Shaq feud happened and those are headliners. Sport always accompanied by interesting narrative storyline.

[@mucknar]

Brian Fantana im fine with talking points, sports needs talking points, but not at the expense of the integrity of the product. would Nascar be better if they had one Ferrari, one mustang and everything else minivans? yeah its cool the first time, but it gets old.

[@EvanderTrolyfield]

Dude looks like Kid Cudis dad

[@larry8030]

"Baseball doesnt have great storylines" *and then the MLB got Aaron Judge..*

[@randy2152]

Mr Speed I don't get why he rips on MLB so much. He says Bryce Harper is the only superstar, like come on Colin I could name 5 without even having to thibk

[@michaelpreller4025]

and people still don't care...

[@has3219]

yeah ik lmao watch when the yankees are locked and lookin like they can face the dodgers in the world series the sports world will go wild that will do numbers we haven't seen since they last faced off in the world series I can just IMAGINE a game 7 easily touching 50 million. Remember in the 2000s they were more popular than any nba team

[@larry8030]

Adam Hupp ikr

[@dionysise5008]

How cant you see there is a serious problem with super teams? If PG13 signs with Cavs what am i supposed to watch until june?

[@0-Elias-0]

The same thing that football fans watch: anything besides the NBA regular season. I'm an NFL fan, and I know that 24-26 NBA teams are dreadful trash; thus, I haven't watched the regular season in about 15 years.

[@TheBoltChargers]

Elias you are absolutely stupid if you think 24-26 teams are trash. There are good teams that can make a run in the playoffs if the matchups are favored

[@BakeryTakery]

Has anyone ever seen Jim Jackson and Kid Cudi in the same room together? Asking for a friend.

[@thewarwings]

Having a team that people call a "super" team or labeling them as having too many stars, to where it's unfair is bogus. Having a team that is so good that everyone else has to get better to stop them keeps the game elevating the skill set constantly. I think it's a good thing.

[@FledgedPhoenix]

6 different teams in the 2010s Dallas, San Antonio, LA, Miami, Cleveland, and Golden State.

[@Melodysmusic100]

I LOVED ME SOME JIM JACKSON WHEN HE PLAYED IN THE NBA !!!

[@Kbrobbey96]

A few weeks ago he was saying we were stupid for thinking Love should've been traded last summer, now the tables have turned 😂😂. I'm a Love fan btw

[@joshnyamburi]

Id feel Utah vs Washington

[@rmoultonrmoulton145]

Parity isn't what we really want. We just want more close games. Right now there's a decent gap between GSW and CLE, even though that series could've easily been 2-2 going back to Oakland. And, excluding SAS, the gap between GSW/CLE and everyone else is very big. That's what sucks, knowing there's a good chance any given game will be over by halftime.

[@redzoom7857]

I really like Jim because he is a smart analyst and more importantly always honest!

[@hiphopotamus69]

The NBA could go back to 8 teams and nobody would notice

[@siwicke]

I love how colin puts the spurs in line with the jazz. like they haven't been the #1 or 2 team in the west for the last decade

[@bengotti4181]

The Cavs are a Super Team; The Warriors are just better. The Cavs have three All-Stars in their prime, how is that not a Super-Team?

[@kentronchamelon8456]

The Cleveland Cavaliers don't need to get rid of any of their players. They don't need to get rid of Kevin Love. The only thing that Cleveland needs to do is to allow all of their bench players to play and shoot more. Many of their bench players did not get a lot of playing time during the 2016-2017 NBA season, and all of them are good players. If they would get more playing time, they could show the team what they can do. (Kentron Chamelon/Wednesday/6-14-2017)

[@randy2152]

He's right about the NBA having a 3 point problem. It's like it didn't matter how many point the Cavs would be up, you knew the Warriors would just unload 3 pointers and be back in the game.

[@DarthRevan823]

I wouldn't mind seeing the same two teams in the finals every year if the series they play in leading up to it are more competitive instead of sweeps

[@hsinhunglin]

it is a serious problem. I unsubscribed NBATV last October and didn't watch many games until conference finals started this year. rest of the league is a joke now. no way to compete and too many teams are tanking now.

[@TabascoRain]

Yeah, but at least the intra-conference foes had a chance, there was suspense. But the Cavs and Warriors are beyond their conference competition to a degree we've never seen before.

[@jsfbr]

There is nothing special about this so called super team, except that they just raised the quality bar ten notches above the previous mark, and so all NBA will have to follow, for the benefit of all basketball admirers! That's what happened, and that's a very good thing!

[@cyber6sapien]

List the teams that made it to the Finals in the 90s. The only team with more than two appearances in the Finals in the 90's was the Bulls. There was parity on the 90s.

[@vlopez078]

cyber6sapien there was competition tho

[@jaylock9twenty5]

People want the league more competitive, how about holding coaches accountable?

[@thereGoMapo]

I wanna see great teams play but I also wanna see more great teams... lumping superstars onto one team sucks... hopefully it makes more teams turn their players into superstars tho

[@geronimo80140]

Defend the current lack of parity all you want, the season,especially the playoffs stunk.

[@JoshMitchell116]

Jim Jackson is right for the most part. Yes, as fans, we want to see the best teams play, but we don't want the Finals to be decided before the season starts. We already know, unless something drastic happens, we're getting Cavs vs. Warriors v4 and Golden State will win because they formed a super team that eliminated almost all of their conference competition. In the 80's even though only 4 teams won, Houston was very close, which means there was competition ans excitement. Today, there is neither. With KD, the Warriors DO have an unfair advantage, and the only way to even make the Finals a series is to get PG-13 in Cleveland, which may not happen, so yes, the NBA does have a superteam problem.

[@AndyPDaley]

If anyone remembers when lebron was on the heat, you know there were genuinely exciting series. The pacers/heat series was one of the most exciting I've ever seen, and the pacers were a far cry from a super team

[@charlespeaks6634]

Get Gordon Hayward you won't have to make a trade.

[@sonnyhuynh007]

Winning off of injuries...boy the NBA is back!

[@0-Elias-0]

Answer = *No* This rendition of a super team (Golden State) will only be a problem if the rest of the players/teams in the league wave the towel/concede. But considering the nature of [an evenly regulated] sport, the rest of the teams/players will compete heavily. So, I think in about 2-3 years we will see 4-5 nearly impeccable NBA teams. It's about to get good, folks.

[@drkdze]

JJ is bringing up the same reasons why I think PG to the Cavs doesn't make them better!

[@jeffstut55]

Someone wake me up when it's my wizards's time to shine

[@markgrant3629]

Anyone claiming the Cleveland Cavaliers are a super team is living in denial. Death lineup: 2012 all star/finals MVP Andre Iguodola, you have KD 8xAllstar MVP / Klay 3xall star/ Steph 2xMVP 4xAll Star/ draymond 2x all star (prob defensive player of the year) . Anyone thinking Cleveland is even close to that is living in denial. You can't compete in the finals when one of you supposedly elite "big 3" goes 2/8 from the field for 6 point in a close out game. Love should be ashamed.

[@johndoe-ii1ko]

Mark Grant Blame LeBron for wanting Love in the first place. He had a top draft pick in Wiggins but told the gm to trade him Love. Dumb choice to me, you had a young Kyrie, and granted he wouldn't have known if Wiggins would pan out, but you can mold him for at least two years and see how he developed. LeBron builds his team roster and y'all get mad when the players suck.....don't cry, blame your "king"

[@mmbeas]

They taking the fans for granted. Eventually they'll get tired of superteams. I already am

[@Sakhi]

If you already know who's gonna be in the playoffs/finals what's the point in having a league format? You might as well just create a knockout tournament with multiple game series.

[@rustysteiner6202]

Sakhi because its not guaranteed. injuries may happen, unforseen incidents may happen.

[@tristangallagher6181]

we dont want parity, we want competition. we want the playoffs to go to game 5 in the first round, an 6-7 in the rest of the rounds. we dont want a sweep in the WCF or the ECF, we want game 6-7 in the finals.

[@TopShop90]

There has to be a balance. There is not a team in the league that can compete with GS. This is bad for the NBA.

[@davidlo2414]

Devin White - I disagree. The Spurs can compete with Golden State.

[@FUCKPORTIONS967]

David Lo is 2 supposed to make a difference Kd move tipped the scales severely

[@davidlo2414]

FUCKPORTIONS967 - I don't know if it makes a difference. I was addressing his point that there are no teams that can compete. That's not true. The Spurs can compete now.

[@TopShop90]

David Lo For the NBA's sake, I hope the spurs can compete. Realistically I see them maybe getting a game. But the fact of the matter is GS has too many weapons and the only way to beat them is to out score them.

[@myname6633]

Spurs without Parker were up by 23 before Kawhi's injury. Pop is a really good coach and they have a great system there. I hope CP3 joins them in the offseason.

[@wjwalke527]

All we want is for 4-5 teams to have legitimate chance to get to finals. Not for it to be a damn forgone conclusion.

[@TheLOSTagent]

Its not about how many number of team changes that reached the finals but rather its about the gap between teams, and playoff teams getting swept says it all.. Cavs and Warriors are gonna be there in the Finals for 3-5 years but is the competition really close before that? Like we see Lakers in the early 2000 repeatedly reached the championship but the competition is stiff, there are the Kings, Spurs that could take them out anytime... now the competition is not close to being that... we could no longer argue who would reach the finals, the argument is how soon will they be able to... smh

[@ralphthompson355]

7 winning teams, but how many different losing teams?

[@jvadoptante]

Solution: CP3 Wade Lebron Melo KP Hernangomez 8th pick in the Big Apple!

[@arsonhakobyan]

I do not agree that the best team always wins, just cause it's a 7-game series.

[@teamtonioadr]

Btw,Michael Jordan had super teams on both 3 peats. Michael,Scottie,and Horace Grant were ALLSTARS,along nba 3 point shooting champ Craig Hodges...John Paxon and BJ Amstrong was on the first 3 peat. 2nd 3 peat Michael (Nba MVP),Scottie(MVP),and Rodman (Rebounding champ and DPOY). Add former allstar Ron Harper,3 point shooter Steve Kerr.

[@phillipfasanya2910]

Michael Jordan never had a super team. The players you mention were drafted and/ or traded. LeBron James had a super team in Miami and Kevin Durant has a super team in Golden State.

[@TheBrokenScale]

i'm still not sold on Hayward leaving. Personal stuff like location or money or family's comfort aside, I'm looking at the Jazz and I really think they are really only one piece and a healthy season away from being a Western Conference Finals team, in position to compete with the Warriors if Durant or Curry gets injured. They add an upper-tier PF or PG to be a Big 3 with Hayward and Gobert and that's a legit team

[@jorgemoreno3176]

Yep why have low market teams if they all want super teams or the same teams winning.

[@9306]

You don't mortgage your future off the chance that someone from Warriors and Cavs get injured. That is idiotic management.

[@TheDefenseIsUpNext]

The NBA does need another 70's and 00's era of parity. It could happen with all these young teams but at some point you have to balance out what we have now.

[@ChachinAKAChino]

Sabelo Masemola Parity in the 2000s? 8 rings went to the west during that era. From 2000-2010 Lakers won 5 and Spurs won 3.

[@bigdog2610]

ChachinAKAChino lol I guess that's parody

[@manchesterunitedno7]

Did you even watching the video above. Parity happened in the 70s, and look what it got. The lowest attendance and interest to NBA. Without interest and TV contracts, the league was in dire situation. Also, you bring up 2000s. Really? Like some respond here, Lakers won 5 and Spurs won 3 during that decade. So much for parity.

[@TheDefenseIsUpNext]

+ChachinAKAChino​ What about the Pistons and Celtics? And the Heat?

[@TheDefenseIsUpNext]

Brian Fantana That was in the 70's. The results would be different today if the league for say 10 years focused more on marketing teams over individuals. Over time certain individuals would obviously rise to the forefront but they'll do so having played through a very competitive era. You wanna save the playoffs and the regular season? Make it about teams.

[@dannyg6585]

There's going to be like 6 super teams next year.

[@itsshowtime14]

Melo was a catch and shoot guy with the Olympics

[@BRodOfficialMusic]

No, we wanted to see okc, gs, portland, rockets, and San Antonio go at it in he west. Then the Cavs, wizards, bulls, and celtics go at it in the east. But since KD went to the warriors their a tier above everyone else and the Cavs are gonna keep trying to get on that level too which we'll only have two teams able to compete with each other.

[@TomBogertsMustache]

Trading Paul George for Kevin love would be a travesty for Indiana. George is so much more valuable than love.

[@feltonfaucher7405]

2010-17 has already given 6 different champions; lakers, Mavericks, Heat, Spurs, Warriors & Cavaliers. Is that not the point of competitiveness to share the championships. Why when the bulls, lakers,spurs & spurs where dominating there was not all this talk of parity.

[@leroyglam3920]

Well said Jim Jackson. I can't see Lebron, PG and Kyrie working out. There aren't enough balls.

[@crayvd8229]

The Warriors dominance is good for the league. Here's why: Teams will look at the Warriors success and try to mimic what they do, and what they did to get there. Which is drafting well, and developing players in a team first system. MJs Bulls is proof that dominance impacts the league. After the Bulls, teams turned to ISO play with their best player, and defense. Teams will see the Warriors and start passing the ball around, being unselfish, and running up and down with athletic ball handlers and great shooters. Look at the Bucks, they are already doing this. The Rockets were a poor man's version, but it worked in the regular season, even the Jazz have kind of done this. Except they don't play fast, the play slow. The Warriors play basketball the way it was meant to be played. In the long run, after getting destroyed by the Warriors for a few years, teams will change and change basketball for the better.

[@Longimanus1323]

Crayvd I bet you're a libertarian

[@GunterJPN]

The problem is, the West has more great teams than the East. If the playoffs discarded conferences, there would be better games because it would literally be the best teams in the league.

[@felix_remmie6048]

NBA is the new La Liga. two team league!

[@jacksonclark9728]

I'm the cavs this is what I'm doing. Your going to make a trade in the offseason for Kevin love iman shunpert and other role player or draft picks for jimmy butler and mirotic or George and Thaddeus young. This will force steph curry to end up guarding kyrie Irving and there will be a huge match up issue. Curry can't take a break on defence and guard the cavs shooting guard because it's now paul George or jimmy butler. Defensive benefits is now the cavs will be that when lebron gets tired paul George can now guard KD or the other way around

[@danielw5067]

The cavs has to change the system, the way it plays. It's too hard for the cavs to score

[@armoda1057]

Danny W bro they blew out every eastern conference team. The warriors are too good that is all

[@ethiopianpride8732]

Lebron before his superteams: 1/7 (14%) vs the Eastern Conference Lebron after his superteams: 7/7 (100%) vs the Eastern Conference If anything, Lebron showed everyone that teaming up with all stars is the best way to win. He ruined the East for 7 straight years before KD ruined the NBA

[@kelechic.jemelumba9981]

how the celtic gave them a run for their money, so did the pacers for the next few years, the years after that Lebron became this version and a lot of things fell through for the other teams in the east.

[@JNebulaBeatz]

Spoken like a true bandwagon Warriors fan 😂

[@1titans]

Ethiopian Pride Bit Lebron is what's makes its that. Miami wasn't a superteam, Neither are the Cavs

[@vlopez078]

1titans Miami wasn't a super team??? They were THE super team

[@donjekdemarco4900]

i wouldn't say ruined. its a new era, n theres more super teams ahead. i like to see best of the best teams against each other. only the hottest city will be ready to form a S.team

[@kenan-b]

why are people calling this cavs squad a superteam? this cavs squad is awful without lebron, if he doesn't play in the playoffs then the pacers would've beat them in the first round, meanwhile if KD sat for the playoffs the warriors would still make the finals lol, and it's debatable that the heat were a superteam even. Lebron left and they immediately didn't make the playoffs, If KD doesn't pick up his option and leaves, the warriors will still be the #1 seed next season lol y'all see the difference between lebron carrying his squad and what an actual superteam is?

[@kenan-b]

that being said congrats to KD on his first ring, he deserved finals mvp (even though he did jump on the bandwagon there's no way around it), now just wait 3-5 years when Joel, Ben Simmons (and hopefully malik monk if we draft him) hit their prime, we gonna tear the league up 👀👀👀

[@devinharris591]

Kenan Ford Thank you for saying this so many people fail to realize this. LeBron as an individual is a super team. He could go to the nets and take them to the eastern conference finals. History has shown when he leaves the team he was on starts doing poorly. KD was injured and the warriors went on a 19 game win streak lmao

[@Xxx55Joe55xxX]

Let's see it's more of a super team then GS because the Cavs only have 2 players on there roster that were drafted and been on the team there whole career and everyone else is signed FA or Trades. Meanwhile the Warriors drafted 8 of there players and they all have been on that team there whole career and only 6 were by Free Agency and Trades. Oh and you are wrong if he goes to any other team and it doesn't have 2 all stars or superstars he won't win it's been proven. He's not as good as you seem to think if he played on the Nets roster as is he wouldn't even make it past my Bulls.

[@kenan-b]

Joe55 what does FA and drafting/keeping players have to do with the talent that's on a team? no one cares how the team is formed, the amount of talent is what determines a superteam. Golden State has the most talent in the league, by a wide margin, even when you compare them to Cleveland. And he's proven he can win without 2 all stars, he took the warriors 6 games by himself in 2015 and beat them with just kyrie in 2016, yes love played but he averaged 8 points a game in the series, he was no all star, it was lebron and kyrie putting in all the work

[@kenan-b]

and what do the nets have to do with anything? the nets are garbage, and even so, if lebron went to the nets they'd be a lock for the playoffs

[@jaws102585]

They'll figure it out on offense, it's PG13 defense that will make them better

[@johnblack8036]

You can never predict what's going to happen. When you have a player as great as James on your team, you cannot be counted out. If you are old enough to have watched basketball in the 80's, on two separate occasions; the great Magic-led Showtime Lakers looked done. They were completely outclassed and swept by a truly awesome Sixer team in the 83 Finals. The Sixers had just about enough and acquired Moses Malone. That team was truly awesome. That was a super team. They had two MVP's in their starting line up along with host of other great role players. The Lakers then lost to Boston in a brutal 7 game series the following year. It looked bleak in L.A. They came back to win it all in 85. Everyone thought, well the Lakers are back. Then, boom, they were completely overwhelmed by the twin towers in 86. That same Rocket team then got obliterated by an all time great Celtic team in the Finals. Just about everyone at the time, thought the Lakers were done. They came back the following year with probably the greatest team I've ever seen. It was then I realized how truly great Magic Johnson was. I wouldn't write Cleveland off just yet as long as LeBron James is on that team. It's almost unbelievable the criticism that man gets. Judging from history, the gap between Cleveland and Golden State is not as big as it seems.

[@andrewhagan8885]

OKC have 3 of the top 10 greatest shooters of all time, who can also take it to the hole. They didn't need KD and if they would've won without him, it would've been more impressive. If KD would've beat the Warriors by staying with OKC, then beating Cleveland, it would've been more impressive, respected, and impractical to his greatness and legacy.

[@andrewhagan8885]

My bad Golden State*

[@andrewhagan8885]

And impactful*

[@TheOmengod]

Parity is great for the league and super teams are great for the all star game!

[@troyhung4307]

Superteam is bad, because it gives other great teams (Eg. Spurs, Rockets, Celtics, Wizards) ZERO shot at winning the NBA finals

[@ky6632]

Troy Hung You're missing the point. what they're saying is that its always been that way since the 80's. The growth of the media and social media has hyper analyzed the last 3 years. As a casual NBA guy, I've ALWAYS thought it was predictable. I love parody, so I watch NFL. So can we please stop pretending this is new.

[@plutotech]

@Troy Hung Do you really wanna see a Spurs vs Wizards finals? Be honest.

[@ChachinAKAChino]

Troy Hung Don't EVER count out the Spurs. Kawhi is something else.

[@troyhung4307]

If KD had went back to Washington Wizards (Where he's from) and Spurs somehow got CP3, I would watch that

[@plutotech]

@Troy Hung. Im not talking fantasies or 2k lineup. I'm talking (Reality) current teams.

[@michaelw4154]

Colin won't admit he was wrong about GSW, remember he said they won't win it all because of chemistry issues, not true center & dreymonds relationship with Kerr.

[@Kermodo]

the Miami heat needed to buy 2 superstar players to win. the Cleveland Cavaliers did the same thing to win. the warriors drafted and developed 3 players and bought one and y'all calling that cheating?

[@mikecala7]

When they complain about "oh the west is better, but its not really who is close to GSW", ummm if Houston/San Antonio played the Cavs the finals might have gone to 6 or 7 games. Yeah if the 2nd or 3rd best team would have played the best team in the east the series might have been close....

[@drkdze]

Once again, people who don't know facts will fall for victim to any stats put in front of them! Of course the parity was the greatest in the 70s, you had two competing leagues and the NBA only had 18 teams at the time. The merger took place in 76!

[@dwaynewhite2744]

there wasn't truly a superteam, injuries affected the outcome, bulls, miami, indiana, Washington, san Antonio, Houston, okc, had injuries the outcome was affected, same as last year,

[@MuhammadKhan-nb5zf]

Warriors made up there team through YEARS of drafting and finally got over the top to win chips. Then in 2014, LeBron comes back to the Cavs and turn them into a championship team within the year with higher draft picks. I don't wanna hear them complain about KD and superteams...If all superteams were disbanded, the warriors would STILL be on top and winning chips because they DRAFTED their players.

[@bigdog9507]

I don't even consider the warriors a real superteam. In 2014 nobody was talking about warriors being one and it was mostly about Cleveland being the most talented in the league.

[@elai3147]

Bilal Khan as you said, through drafting, that's why all the superteam complaining didn't take off until after they added kd

[@itzjeretrots]

Problem with the cavs is there bench. It's awful and it's really old...... think the benches were a difference maker. If you switched benches I would take the cavs. Livingston and iguodola are the best bench vet players in the league

[@chriss.9398]

GSW will always have a spurs problem(barring injuries) and they have the rockets, what competition does Cleveland have? I think Washington and Celtics are a few pieces away from being an actual competitor. The league has slight adjustments and a few trades away from GSW and Cleveland not going back to the finals next year. I don't have much faith in the east though. Hopefully, Paul George goes to the Wizards or something like that. KD would have been great on the Wizards, too bad that is home town and he doesn't like being there.

[@josephharris4974]

Yeah the Cavs are in a very tight spot because they're literally going to have to trade Love if they want to add another star player to the team because they're way over the cap limit and even then it's no guarantee a person like George gets them past the Warriors. However, like they said, might as well try, do your thing in the East and then see how things play out in the West.

[@rutbuck121]

Lebron already stated that he wanted to play with both Carmelo Anthony and Cp3 before his career is over, well after last night.....wait.

[@fiaeva8611]

Warriors are definitely going to be back but Cavs losing to the 🍀 is the problem. The PG13 will not work when he is also an isolation player. 3 isolation players on one team? Same as Lakers when they had Kobe, Shaq, Karl Malone, Gary Payton and lost to the Pistons. Point is, Cavs will never beat the warriors for years to come.

[@jilljacks603]

Westbrook to Cleveland. make it happen NBA/ ESPN.

[@94mikless]

we want competition

[@Athraxes]

Picks are good right now when u already got a good team... u wont beat cavs or warriors right now anyhow... u gotta wait for when the time is right and then be ready to strike. Get a nice trade or free agent etc.

[@teamtonioadr]

If the NBA dont have a SUPERTEAM problem,they will. After watching the Warriors win,Milwaukee is one SUPERSTAR away from being just like them.

[@jamesanderson1431]

This is the first year in awhile the west hasnt been competitive and i think san antonio could have took it this year

[@JuniusR]

2020's parity will comeback

[@MOBSquadGaming]

So it's the Warriors fault that the other teams suck?