Wars of the Roses: The Sources

[@crashrr2993]

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[@davidevans3227]

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[@puccini4530]

That's just wonderful. Starkey's (utterly disgraceful) defenestration from Cambridge has gifted us with a priceless teacher.

[@jimmylemessurier332]

This man is nothing short of a national treasure. Deep, deep knowledge of his subjects combined as it is with his infectious passion for history and a rare ability to bring it to life makes him truly unmissable.

[@williamcurtin5692]

This is older style academically based history, of which there is less and less by the minute. It is a good thing that so much of it is being recorded and will be available when people come to realize that history has gotten way too specialized, not to mention often taught by people who are axe-grinders first and historians second, producing what Henry Ford might, this time correctly, call "bunk". As Dr. Starkey has said, "The core of history is narrative and biography". Keep on rockin', Doc.

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[@evanm2024]

He spends half of his time in America (or else he did... I don't know if Covid changed that)

[@gretakacinskyte4101]

Listening to Sir Starkey is pure joy.

[@johnkad123]

As always, I am impressed by the discussion of methods and the evaluation of sources. We are all getting an education from David Starkey.

[@jameskenny5913]

Thank you David. I’m a history undergraduate at Oxford and you’ve helped me significantly in my Wars of the Roses paper.

[@EnigmaStar153]

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[@brandonshaw2120]

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[@KalaVeritates]

Thank you so much for these wonderful talks. Primary source information gladdens my heart.

[@Icedmorgans]

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[@andscholovideos312]

Fabulous. I specialised in the period concerning Richard iii and The Princes in the Tower 15 years ago at University. I spent hours studying many sources such as Virgil, Mancini and The Crowland Chronicle. This video brought to the surface in my mind the many names and events of the late 15century that I have not thought about for some time. Thank you! It was a special time in history and my life.

[@katakauchi]

Virgil wrote what Henry Seventh wanted him to, Mancini was a French spy and Crowland disliked people from the North of England . None of these are credible sources as they all have a bias .

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[@annwilliams6438]

Wow! That was fascinating. Thank you Dr Starkey.

[@flanamom]

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[@katescrimgeour3884]

It was interesting to hear Dr Starkey's discussion of Margaret Beaufort at the end of Henry VII's reign. I've always been fascinated by her - not least after seeing her Book of Hours at Westminster Abbey. She had such an active and pivotal role in bringing Henry to the throne then it seems to me that she steps back a lot. I wonder - did she feel her work was done or did her son sideline her? I'd love to hear Dr Starkey's thoughts on Margaret Beaufort's role and influence during the reign of Henry VII.

[@iggle6448]

Yes, I'd like to know much more of her too. She was clearly a mover and shaker and seems to have made a greater impression on history than her son. A whole talk would be very welcome.

[@juliecox4843]

@@iggle6448 I completely agree, Lady Margaret is an astonishing character from this era and binds together the reigns of the Henrys. A full talk about her life would be very interesting

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[@victorydaydeepstate]

David, you are awesome. Thank you for not retiring

[@suzannetevlin8439]

Thanks Doctor S. Excellent as always.

[@emmcee662]

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[@AndyVisionTV]

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[@UtahGmaw99]

A treat as always. Thank you!

[@Vintagevanessa99]

Totally captivating talk thankyou

[@mickymantle3233]

Dear Mr Starkey, I would love to hear your interpretation of the reign of King James 1. After the 'Classical' reign of Elizabeth 1 this must have been a very precarious time & a shock to the old English aristocracy.

[@alayneperrott9693]

Very interesting reasoning about Urswick. Makes excellent sense. Another tour de force of scholarship!

[@nonoyorbusness]

Took me three days to find the time to listen to all of this, but worth it!

[@juvenalsdad4175]

Very good talk. I always hope that understanding of historical events will inform the responses those currently in charge of managing our travails will make.

[@gardenkey7365]

Thank you.

[@familyandfriendsfuntimes]

This is so fascinating.

[@jamessheridan4306]

I only clicked on this out of gratitude for one of the rare occasions to see the title spelled correctly. Two snaps up in a circle!

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To pick up one of his analogies - listening to Dr Starkey is hearing a performance of history: such was Homer. A wonder.

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Love the throwaway description of modern Hackney 😂

[@FunkmeisterOfSedgley]

Fantastic as always. Thanks David.

[@shawn6669]

I've always been curious as to how deep Henry Tudor's relationship to the French Court was considering his grandmother was the daughter of a French king.

[@jennyhunter9346]

Thank-you 🙂

[@nicholashughes8214]

That was excellent thank you

[@steveelliott8640]

Having lived near Furness Abbey ( a very rich and powerful abbey in its time) and been a regular visitor to Urswick ( used to have some good pubs) I find it very interesting to hear a history of the area very rarely known.

[@anthonysmith8556]

Brilliant.

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Thank you

[@domesdaytoamericaproject5268]

I have my own connection to old Chestertown families past and present as a son in law of the late Dr. Arthur Keefe and his wife Patricia.

[@holz6925]

Hello Dr Starkey! I really enjoy listening to your conversations about history! I learned somewhere that I wish I could recall that Elizabeth Woodville would likely have known Edward of York, the future Edward IV, from the court of Henry VI, where they both would have spend time in the same period. Do you know of any evidence that Elizabeth Woodville was a lady in the court of Henry VI? Do you believe that they might have met much earlier than tradition dictates? Thank you!

[@EveWilliamsMusic]

I loved this lecture. It illuminated the work of Vergil but also the development of source based approaches to history. One little question: I find suggestions for alternative suspects in the deaths of the Princes implausible, but can you think of anyone else who could have conceivably been responsible?

[@louisgiokas2206]

I think that these responses to questions are some of your best works. Don't get me wrong, I like it all. As for the greenness of the Lancashire countryside, I once had an English friend who called England the land of the idiot gardeners. Anything would grow there. I saw this when I traveled there (from the early 1970s) and when I lived there, early in this century. I am glad I had a gardener to take care of the large garden we had.

[@josephstevano5905]

Once again: an awesome job!

[@richardcory5024]

A fascinating insight into the coups and counter coups that both ended and succeeded the Wars of the Roses for which I am very grateful. Traditionally, English historians have been very reluctant to admit that coups and revolutions have marked much of post Norman Conquest English history, preferring to illustrate some sort of glorious continuity. Christopher Hill aroused controversy by claiming that the English Civil War of 1640 - 1645 was less a civil war and more a bona fide revolution. Is there not a case for arguing that Henry VIII conducted a bona fide revolution himself during his reign by supplanting the power of the Church with the power of the State and effectively looting the resources of the former, not to mention becoming head of the English Church? We do not ever commonly hear such an argument, even now. In turn did Henry not form a foundation for the later extension of an imperial power? My view is that revolutions have been more frequent than is usually admitted and that this was one of them.

[@BlueBaron3339]

Fine lecture and stunningly comprehensive! Had to listen to it rather than watch it because Dr. Starkey has developed a habit, common to people new to KZbin, of leaning into the camera. I found myself backing away 😂 🤣

[@katherinecollins4685]

This was awesome

[@celiaparker6166]

Fascinating discussion of Vergil and his principal source. I would have been interested to hear more about Mancini's contemporaneous account of Richard of Gloucester's takeover, especially as the Richard III Society questions its usefulness on the grounds that M was a non-English-speaking foreigner who would have got his information (or 'gossip' ) second or third hand from Italian merchants in London. The Society has recently, I believe, published a new translation on the grounds that Armstrong's translation has an anti-Richard bias. I know they don't like 'Usurpation' in the title!

[@Happyheretic2308]

And they’re right not to.

[@kasimsultonfan]

Ah the "Richard III was misunderstood/calumnied" mob. Strangely appealing to ladies d'un certain âge.

[@Happyheretic2308]

@@kasimsultonfan which age is that, then?

[@maryearll3359]

I think you've a croaky cold coming. Keep your scarf wrapped round your neck and get better soon. 🥃 and of one these four times a day with a bit of lemon and some hot water. ☺️

[@edwardyoungs6555]

An excellent talk. Very much appreciated. If it is possible could you talk about the figure Reynald de Chatillon and Jeffrey Lees' book God's Wolf?

[@stevewatson6839]

Spoon counting time. I'd have to disregard Polydore Virgil as any kind of reliable source going off this. The same goes for Mancini.

[@margyrowland]

Yeah👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@THINKincessantly]

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Did Richard ever offer an explanation of the nephews whereabouts? Was he ever pressed to give an answer about them?

[@TheLadyPlantagenet]

I’ve been immortalised XD

[@allanpowell7208]

Why is the clock always at 6 to 6?

[@petah-peoplefortheendlesst4668]

Hi Dr, Starkey. I left a question on Patreon about Salisbury and The Gunpowder Plot back in November. Maybe it's not a very academically interesting topic or the Gunpowder Plot/Robert Cecil has been covered to death already, but I just want to make sure you didn't miss it. Thanks! PS: As I've mentioned before, these videos on historiography are eminently boring and inaccessible. What I want are more hot takes & retelling of events.

[@gvbrandolini]

Interessante

[@gvbrandolini]

Smart brain and hard work = methodology A stuff little available nowadays

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Advertising makes people believe that the magic stick substitutes methodology.

[@jasperhorace7147]

As always, compulsive listening. What a remarkable mother Margaret Beaufort was. She really barely knew her son, yet she worked tirelessly to enhance his life and it seems was still doing so after his death.

[@Happyheretic2308]

An absolute b***h. A Clinton for her times. A despicable creature.

[@jasperhorace7147]

@@Happyheretic2308 She should be judged by her own times. She was no different from aristocratic men in her society. She did differ from most women because she played the men at their own game. Sadly, successful women, even today, are seen as ‘absolute B’s’ by many, many men.

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I don't understand all this talk about "sauces" I thought that was cooking ?

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[@kasimsultonfan]

Yes. Very good. Much sense make. Ribble.