Was Anakin Solo a Waste of a Character?

[@muhamedquraishi]

I completely agree with what you had to say about how Anakins death impacting Ben. Especially with Ben being the primary protagonist.

[@carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526]

His death was not a waste.He become what the original Anakin was supposed to be.A legend and one with the force.

[@king_supreme1102]

1:15 I love the way they designed the 3rd generation of skywalkers in Legends. All at the same time I can see Anakin (skywalker), Han, and Leia within Anakin (solo).

[@AncestorEmpire1]

RIP to both Kevin Conroy and Jason David Frank. Both Heroes and Mentors to so many people across decades of time.

[@kibatgrenbuku]

I attest to that, my friend.

[@AncestorEmpire1]

@@kibatgrenbuku yep

[@jacenskywalker507]

Anakin Solo training Ben Skywalker as his Padawan Learner would've been freaking awesome. The Hero With No Fear and The Negotiator would live on through their respective namesakes. I wish that had happened. I love the *'Star Wars: The New Jedi Order'* book series so much. #LongLiveTheStarWarsExpandedUniverseTheOneTrueOfficialAndOnlyStarWarsCanon

[@Revan-kq7ih]

Even with Anakin being dead, he could still have had more reappearances as a force ghost later on. I still would love to have a scene where Tahiri gets a final dialogue with Anakin.

[@inmybestdaysidontdocrack]

I really wanted Anakin and Tahiri to be happy together lmao.

[@greghannibal]

@@inmybestdaysidontdocrack Same, 22 years later I still feel like they did Anakin dirty, then they continued to corrupt poor Tahiri.

[@mariobergnini8897]

Well in a way Darth Caedus did get her a final kiss when he flow walked her back to that spot and she shoved herself into his lips, I know its not the same thing but its some closure even though it was used to manipulate tahiri to the dark side.

[@divinegodofseals3967]

​@@mariobergnini8897she showed tahiri Anakin?

[@cernstormrunner7263]

i was still hoping for some kind of resurrection. Or at least a Force Ghost

[@lordinvictus793]

Anakin’s death didn’t directly lead to Jacen’s fall. Jacen’s fall is a mixture of motivations-but it largely stemmed from visions of the future and his particular personality and mental aspects-his sense that the future was on his shoulders, and his feelings of a life empty.

[@stephenvanderberg9084]

Jacen (Mr caedus) used Anakin's death to seduce Tahiri which was so pathetic (p.s.- I wish the legacy of the force series would have killed her because she murdered palleon and lon shevu- no redemption arc- but after reading and listening to the fate of the jedi audiobook tahiri showed selfless heroism and killed a variant of abeloth).

[@thalmoragent9344]

​@@stephenvanderberg9084 Wait, she murders Palleon? 😮

[@stephenvanderberg9084]

@@thalmoragent9344 yep-in the novel legacy of the force- fury over the battle of fondor on orders of lord caedus (jacen solo).

[@lukewojo1492]

Dude me and all my friends watched your video in 4th grade on lightsaber colors meanings. Right after that we all bought ultrasabers and so much fun playing around and all have been in love with Star Wars since. We’re all freshman in college now. Thanks for that brother

[@thefilmwatcher1302]

A long-form discussion video right when I needed something in the background? Evan coming in clutch!

[@greghannibal]

Man, Star by Star broke me. I'm a 40 year old man who was 18 when that book came out. I've never, in my life, sobbed OPENLY like that before due to a fictional character's death. I remember my family kept asking me what was wrong with me for the next few days because I'd just sob out of the blue. ALL I WANTED WAS ANAKIN AND TAHIRI TO BE HAPPY! Seriously though, that kiss between them was so adorable and wholesome.

[@mariobergnini8897]

dude I was so friggan surprised when star by star came out and I got to anakin's death, hell I was shook when chewbacca died, but yeah Anakin broke my heart, but Jason was always my favorite character from the very beginning, so watching him go dark, and killing Mara and then getting killed by Jaina friggan killed me. I tell you I cant tell you how much I miss looking forward to these books coming out, disney ripped my fucking heart out and stomped on it killing the real star wars ;-( if disney had been smart they would of picked up the storyline with the jedi academy trilogy, or with the Yuuzhan Vong invasion. I keep hoping someone at disney wakes up fires kathleen kennedy and restarting the series by having Luke skywalker wake up from a force coma and all the bullshit disney put out was just a really bad unwatchable nightmare so we can get our real star wars back!

[@mariobergnini8897]

lol i was 19 at school in boston reading on my apt front steps after having run to get the book the day it came out at the barnes and noble down the street, same spot a week later at 3 in the morning I was swearing in the street on commonwealth avenue when i reached that part lol

[@greghannibal]

@@mariobergnini8897 They should have restarted it within the Yuuzhan Vong invasion. It's about the same timeline wise, could have introduced the solo kids as the new protagonist, being led into the future by JEDI MASTER Luke Skywalker, CHEIF OF STATE Leia Organa Solo, and GENERAL Han Solo. Introduce other characters, do what the books did, major movies=hardbound books, then tv series and specials to fill in the gaps. Might have been too dark though. I remember someone recently saying "If it wasn't for Disney, we wouldn't even HAVE new movies! Would you have preferred that?" Me: "YES"

[@exarkun42]

This is going to be controversial, you are all free to disagree, but this is my opinion Anakin's death made the series feel more realistic. The Yuuzhan Vong were poisoning entire planets, murdering thousands. Having a main character die makes them feel like a more serious threat. Evan's theory about the Vong's disconnect from the Force allowing them to circumvent prophecy feels almost completely correct.

[@wb7585]

That's a pretty cool theory and sacrifice had always been a part of star wars.

[@mariobergnini8897]

I actually agree, it killed me when it happened and they had hyped up his destiny so much you never expected them to let Anakin die like that. It really blind sided me, man fuck disney for killing these books!

[@mogwiji]

I totally agree

[@Miguel11190]

This is gonna sound controversial, but this is the only opinion that matters. Luke Skywalker should’ve died.

[@TheCreepyLantern]

i'm on the last book of the Corellian Trillogy as we speak, and the way nine year old Anakin Solo is doing things with the force (mostly in regards to his ability with machines and technology) that's CONSTANTLY making people go "what the space-balls is up with this kid? how is he doing this? this feels IMPOSSIBLE!" and hyping up his potential. it felt really really strange to know the dramatic irony his story's going to kind of fizzle out with a, admittedly, badass last stand. i do 100% think his potential was wasted even if you ARE right that the EU DID make as best they could with the fallout

[@DarthInsomnis]

Well made video Evan. It is a shame because Anakin Solo seemed to have so much potential (character wise), and it would’ve been neat to see him grow into a wise and powerful master. But what we got instead ain’t too bad either. Characters like Ben and the Solo twins are also very interesting and well thought out.

[@theopportuneson699]

No they weren’t. Jaina was completely wasted as a character, and spent most of _Legacy of the Force_ - her big series - on a side mission to beat a fourth-rate villain. Jacen Solo was destroyed and made into an incompetent buffoon by hack writers who didn’t dare write him as the ultimate villain (despite his villainous turn being OOC in the first place). And Ben Skywalker never reached his potential as a character, but he was the best written post-NJO Skywalker by far.

[@mithosirving]

i's so absurd to think george would worry about fans being confused about the two anakins, also the prequels were proof he had hopes for children to be more intelligent, and he is right when i was a kid when they came out i understood the plot just fine, how moron comentators on youtube say they have no idea what goes on in them is just mindblowing, and i do want to thank you evan, because of your videos i will be going to go through legends, the true cannon as faras i'm concerned

[@gabrielgalindo4083]

Agreed, I understood what was going on in episode 1 when I first watched it as a kid.

[@teplapus8795]

I think the main problem wasn't that he died early, but more that he died randomly. He sacrificed himself to save everyone else from a threat (voxyn) that appeared a few chapters ago and was gone by the end of the book. In fact, even worse, to save them from a threat that appeared 30 seconds ago (Nom Anor and his soldiers) so that Jacen could destroy the voxyn. The best comparison would be not Anakin Skywalker randomly dying on Mustafar and the story continuing without him, I think it would much better compare to him dying in a random Clone Wars episode, sacrificing himself so Obi-Wan can destroy some new Separatist weapon or something. If they needed to have him die in NJO, they should have at least made the accomplishment of his sacrifice much, much bigger. Ending the entire war - level of bigger. For example (I'm just making up random ideas), directly starting the revolt of the Shamed Ones. Or dying above Myrkr, but then doing something very important and pivotal as a force ghost. Even all of those ideas feel a bit too insignificant for such an important character

[@iceomistar4302]

I will always remember how the forums exploded when Mara died, the fans on the official forums must have shutdown the site, I can only imagine what it was like when Anakin was killed off

[@betterlatethannever4529]

20:50 man, sounds familiar… *Stares at Filoni*

[@mikeor-]

Anakin Solo has always been an interesting character. He could have played a major role in the sequel trilogy, and would have been a great foil to Jacen Solo. But no. Instead we get Kylo Ren and a Mary Sue character that has no development. The only good movie of the sequel trilogy was The Force Awakens. Disney butchered these characters, and now, the Star Wars Universe is lesser for it. To be honest, I don't like the fact that Jacen Solo becomes Darth Caedus, because I feel like the Sith Order should have died with Darth Vader and Darth Sidious. Disney did not make Kylo Ren a Sith, but even that does not douse my resentment of Episodes VIII and IX. I do not speak for all fans, but my personal opinion is that you cannot mix Legends and Canon together, because they are just too different. You can do this before the events of the original trilogy, but you cannot do this after 30 ABY. I never read any books that take place after Return of the Jedi, and that's my fault why I do not like Darth Caedus. I prefer for him to stay Jacen Solo.

[@melgehl9128]

Yeah, Darth Caedus felt out of character to me too. Could read the books...

[@xRadinox]

I think untimely deaths and wasted potentially, grief and the feeling of the ones leaving prematurely are a important part of histories ( more in a war) the feeling that anyone can die is necessary and to be fair, the character got the enough development to mean something, to his death to be consequential. I think even, is better sometimes to keep the sentiment of love to character with all the "could have been" scenarios as a part of that.

[@varunnathamuni5540]

I just finished the Yuuzhan Vong War and let me tell you guys, this entire video is just gold to come back to and consider after reading the series. Han Solo's three kids represented the different parts of Anakin Skywalker. Jacen was the moral side, Jaina was the pilot, and Anakin was the power. Honestly, I'm just of the opinion that Anakin should have lived, but Luke didn't have to die for Anakin to take his place. Best non verses video I've listened to/ seen in a while Evan. Keep up the good work.

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

The way I personally see it is that Anakin could have been brought back by doing a HEAVILY altered version of the Sequel Trilogy. Instead of revolving around the map to Luke, let's have the First Order (made of people like Natasi Daala and other disgruntled Imperials who disagreed with Jagged) and emissaries of the One Sith (possibly Wyyrlokk I and Vestara Khai, now Darth Judicar, similar to Snoke/Kylo) posing as new Banite Sith, hunting down a fabled clone stash, containing among the many, a supposed clone of Anakin Solo, tieing things together with Riptide and Crosscurrent. What comes afterwards is whether Anakin wished to come back or not and all the consequences that come with that.

[@davidthould8281]

I like to see if Jacen would kill anakin instead of Mara Jade as his sacrifice to become Darth Caedus

[@blacksun6245]

Could he win that fight

[@ajacevedo3]

I would **LOVE** to see an in-depth what-if narrative where Anakin survives. I’d pay good money for it.

[@theopportuneson699]

Read “A Destiny Altered” by Origami Fish.

[@iceomistar4302]

According to Pablo Hidalgo, the plan was for Jacen to flowwalk to Anakin's death and replace him making Jacen the one that dies rather than Anakin, I'm glad they didn't do something so cheesy.

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

14:04 Same guy who also rejected Grievous as a Jedi killer cyborg and made him into a pathetic coward because "he didn't want another Darth Vader", Evan.

[@heirofcaedus7070]

Another fantastic video, and I would love to see a whole in-depth video on Anakin’s survival.

[@AndreVeaseyJr]

I'm reading the Legacy of the Force series (don't want to read the Yuuzhang Vong war as there's too many pages and too many books; unless someone can persuade me otherwise) and honestly from the way that they mention Anakin Solk throughout, I do not believe he is a waste of a character. I can understand the frustration though. One that you've kind of alluded to or outright stated in the video is the fact that Anakin Solo would actually reach his potential unlike Anakin who couldn't. Anakin Solo's death did contribute somewhat to Jacen's fall but other factors were much more important. His family or rather his daughter being the highest concern. Han and Leia can't catch a break. I felt for Han when he raged at the fact that Jacen named the starship after his dead son. This is probably a good leading point into how people take Jacen's fall to the dark side and the return of the Sith. I've heard a lot of him going one-eighty yet there's other people that point out how torture does that as well as visions, the same thing his grandfather fell to. Ironically, he succeeded per se.

[@emzonik8851]

Well, the New Jedi Order shows possibly the deadliest conflict ever in Star Wars and the most influential one in the period after the Battle Of Endor. So I wouldn't totally skip it if I were you. But I totally understand that 19 novels is a lot. But you don't have to go through them all necessairly even though it is recommended. You only need 6: - Vector Prime - Balance Point - Star By Star - Traitor - Destiny's Way - The Unifying Force. That's actually even less than LOTF. And don't skip Dark Nest trilogy.

[@neilvarma]

I don’t think so. I think he went out like a hero (unlike how Disney will treat its characters) and his actions would lead to the shamed ones rebellion

[@informalgeek1196]

Was the random canon Star Wars hate necessary?

[@evilswissy]

disney and george lucas are free masons that follow the luciferian philosophy. if you are capable of being open minded, you will notice that all of their characters display a metamorphosis of the symbolic pheonix rising out of the ashes of some catastrophic event. this is significant in free masonry because they too see the culmination of their work as being a pheonix rising out of the ashes thus bringing a golden age for humanity, much like darth sidious and the plan of the sith. humanity is heading towards a true dark age and like the jedi, humanity has been manipulated and fooled into helping construct this dark age. you will see the truth one day, and like the jedi it will be too late

[@AncestorEmpire1]

@@informalgeek1196 yes. For being in denial is worse.

[@informalgeek1196]

@@AncestorEmpire1 denial about what? As someone who both loves the EU and keeps up with canon they’re both very good. Just because one isn’t for you Doenst mean it’s garbage

[@AncestorEmpire1]

@@informalgeek1196 1: you’re a two face. 2: you’re filled with apathy 3: headcanon before 2014 is the way.

[@Robbie_141]

I'm browsing the internet and i get the notification and boom now I've got some good background videos from a great youtuber love you Evan keep up the great content much love from Australia

[@thalmoragent9344]

Anakin Solo, a promising young lad. Though, much like his namesake, tragedy struck him and would end in the hope for another to continue on. It's a shame he died, but I wouldn't say it was a "wasted potential" sort of thing. Also, for 16:40 , that would've been wild 💀 definitely feels like a nightmare of a situation

[@jeremyleonjonas7657]

Definetly a great new format xD very intrigueing topic, especially given Anakin wasn't given much exposure on this chanel so far (understandable given his cut short story). Very enjoyable What If? as closing thoughts. Hope you keep up the great work, its awesome to see how much your writing and editing has improved over the last years since I stumbled upon this chanel 8 or 9 years ago... damn, its been a while.

[@Spartacus547]

You know what the great thing about Legends is they're not canon yet so if they ever decides to take the storyline into Canon and turn it into a movie or show Anakin solo lives

[@saluteadezio7893]

My biggest problem with Anakin's death is its handling. In the beggining of the book we learn of a "big threat macguffin" the voxyn, that dont really feel threatening, then there is a suicide mission which (who could expect) ends with bunch of people dying, somehow macguffin gets destroyed, and for some reason cant be created again, book ends. His death just feels inconsequential. I think it would be much better if he died rescuing Tahiri on Yavin 4. They could give Jaina and Jacen bigger role so his death would affect them more and that would be enough. Most of other characters in Star by Star were unnecesary in my opinion. They just taken screen time (page time?) from main characters and acted as cannon fooder.

[@teplapus8795]

Precisely. The voxyn just appeared out of nowhere at the beginning of the book, and we never really saw them again after it ended (with a few small exceptions). In-universe everyone is sure that he died like a hero to save everyone, but really, the net outcome of Anakin Solo's death is zero. He dies only to get the general overall situation in the Galaxy back to what it was in the beginning of that very same book. As I already said in a different comment, a closer comparison than Anakin Skywalker randomly dying on Mustafar would be Anakin Skywalker dying on the Malevolence in the Clone Wars. With how much development Anakin Solo got, his sacrifice should have AT LEAST had the magnitude of ending the Yuuzhan Vong war.

[@youngsmitty347]

Dude, I would love it if you and the other members of the Council Forcecast came together to pitch your own What If's about certain stories/characters in the SW mythos. Hell, I remember Jensaarai1's old pitches of changing Dooku into Jorus C'baoth and was hyped to hear more but got none sadly.

[@theopportuneson699]

Yes. Anakin Solo was the best written of the next generation (besides *maybe* Ben).

[@Zachcraftone]

I just got to his death in Star by Star, I knew it was coming as did I with Chewbacca but damn was it hard, especially once Luke and Leia felt his death. But then again he was not a waste, he died as a hero and made his choices. And now he’s reunited with all other past Jedi including his master Ikrit and his grandfather who he was named after.

[@jonnie7891]

Great video as always. Would love to see you do more vids like this.

[@Artahe]

You know, I'm now hoping to see a versus battle with him :p

[@fallenknighttyler8695]

An in-depth what if story about Anakins survival would be cool

[@lordinvictus793]

So I like your what if, I do think it’s a bit too saccharine. The whole point of the Myrkr mission, the Vong war is the sort of innocence wholesome bubble the family was ensconced in was shattered-Chewie died and then Anakin. This affects everyone both positively and negatively. But it’s a disservice to the claimed stakes of the Vong war to have all the solo kids make it unscathed.

[@darthmetum3324]

I really would like more what ifs by just you or with Jensaarai, because you both have really strong grasp on the stories and a lot of the characters compared you other Star Wars youtubers

[@yusefmordred1621]

Truly loved your alternative history at the end!

[@mariobergnini8897]

totally agree the novel Traitor is one of the top 5 in the entire star wars eu

[@creaturesofdarkness3365]

Yeses I missed you bro, i love listening to you're videos while I fall asleep

[@Badblood226]

What you said about Jacen swapping places with Anakin at the point of his death. Would be a great Star wars infinites novel. I just imagine Jacen going absolutely berserk against the vong like Darth Krayt did

[@Assassionlordjk]

Please continue the what if, it was so good.

[@alsimmonshellspawn6021]

I like anakin solo more than ashoka tano Ezra kyp Ren and rey he was better written than those characters, and had the potential to be a force god

[@zachanikwano]

I haven't read Anakin or Kyp yet, but better than Ahsoka? Better than Ezra I can believe, he feels like a joke sometimes (due to his show aiming for a younger audience).

[@alsimmonshellspawn6021]

@@zachanikwano star wars used to be for everyone before Disney, now it's just for 10 years old little kids

[@kadegetslaid634]

​@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 George Lucas himself said he made the movies for twelve year olds 💀

[@alsimmonshellspawn6021]

@Kadegetslaid still that doesn't mean it can be more mature 🤡 stop shilling for Disney

[@kadegetslaid634]

@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 ofcourse it can be mature, but it was originally MADE for kids, and I really dislike Disney I ain't shilling 💀

[@wrathandflame3987]

In my opinion if a character's death is considered a waste and there is so much backlash for it then that means that the character was brilliant and his death really impacted the fandom which immediately makes it the opposite of a waste. If nobody cared about Anakin's character his death wouldn't have been as meaningful or painful and so THEN it would have been a true waste

[@theradgegadgie6352]

Using that "logic" Disney did absolutely the right thing with Luke Skywalker. Ffs....

[@wrathandflame3987]

@@theradgegadgie6352 It's not the same thing because the backlash wasn't for the way the character died it was for why he died at all. People were angry Anakin died because they wanted him to keep going but sometimes a character must go. If hypothetically Luke was in the same situation and he died say on the Death Star with the emperor to save the galaxy we would be sad but if that was the only way then it wouldn't really make sense for there to be backlash. In Disney's case Luke didn't have to die at all so that is why the backlash is justified but when it comes to Anakin Solo's death why should there be backlash when his death was important to the story and went on to shape all the characters that were around him and ever loved him.

[@theradgegadgie6352]

@@wrathandflame3987 Trust me, people were pissed off that Luke died at all, too. Me included. In the case of Anakin, the character was way too invested in for too many years and had too many hopes resting on him for readers. (Especially young ones.) Then he was wasted in a situation in which ANY Jedi or person close to them could've been the sacrificial lamb. To this day I am spitting effing angry at George Lucas and Troy Denning for this stupidity and waste, not least because it pissed all over Tahiri as well.

[@wrathandflame3987]

@@theradgegadgie6352 Well I guess others could have taken practically Anakin's place but knowing him as a character do you think he would have let them die so that he could live?

[@theradgegadgie6352]

@wrathandflame3987 That's the beauty of fiction. Anything could've prevented him. A lump of shrapnel could've banged him in the head and knocked him out, requiring him to be casevacced. He and Tahiri could've become separated from the main gang. Luke could've forcefully suppressed him on account of already being injured. Anything could've been provided to keep him and his integrity safe.

[@Noizemaze4]

I like this format, could you do videos showcasing all the times that disney ripped off of EU ? I feel like you guys would have a better description than what other content creators can achieve

[@АлексейМомот-щ7о]

It's kinda hard to tell when it just happens by accident, like convergent evolution

[@Noizemaze4]

@@АлексейМомот-щ7о Naw totally intentional on disneys part

[@thepianocameraman]

Bruhhh. I didn't know if this channel was still going haha

[@SkyStarNova]

Epic ideas. Awesome stuff!

[@lynnpitsinger]

That was a lot of fun. Good job!

[@Darksnovia]

I would like to see a follow-up and more in-depth what if on Anakin Solo survival what little we got in this video I was interesting.

[@taunttitan1714]

Nope Anakin Solo despite he very short life only 17 years is easily one of the most interesting and well developed characters in Star Wars

[@adviel]

I think the chosen one is merely the person most likely to influence the fate of the galaxy. In Anakin Skywalker case the was the chosen one destined to bring balance to the force, but that was just the Jedi prophecy. The Sith had their own prophecy The Rule of Two, where they needed a master and an apprentice to rule the galaxy. Anakin Skywalker had the option to fulfil the Jedi or the Sith prophecy. Because the Yuuzhan Vong are cut of from the force Anakin Solo was blocked from fulfilling his prophecy. Had the Yuuzhan Vong not appeared I think Lost Tribe of the Sith would have emerged a lot sooner and Anakin Solo would have had an important role in that. Just like Obi Wan and Sidious where opposites for Anakin Skywalker, Jacen and Jaina were suppsed to be same for Anakin Solo. In the Fate of the Jedi series I think they were trying to make the same thing with Allana Solo as the new Chosen One. (I've only read these once when they came out so I'm not remembering them as well)

[@saluteadezio7893]

"Dennign depiction of Anakin reuniting with his family would be extreamly wholsome" Knowing Troy's writing I cant agree. It would be probably full of some wired sexual things as he allways does. Just remember that in the same book Tahiri literally molested Ben Skywalker who was 14 at the time xD

[@brianvernon249]

And it is the reason for Tahiri to go to the dark side and become Caedus’ apprentice.

[@lordinvictus793]

As for Denning-I read that he wrote that as a sort of a personal fanfiction. Not an alternate ending.

[@theovermansailor5519]

Could you do a breakdown on the most powerful Jedi generals in Star Wars, just like you did with the grandmasters and battlemasters

[@theovermansailor5519]

@Wes Bradley-Taubner Mace windu was the general in clone wars but he can't be the only one in entire star wars history, surely

[@brianjordan3841]

Now the only question I have left regarding Anakin Solo is this do we have enough info about him as a lightsaber dualist, force user, overall combatant to place him in future Star Wars vs matchups

[@savagedarksider]

I'll like to know where does the Sith and Jedi go after the events of Legacy.

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

Or even in between Crucible and Legacy would be nice.

[@Yeayeayeayeayeayeayeayea]

Imo in the beginning yes definitely especially when he was Hinged Anakin of the Solo Siblings but never did anything of note except the namesake. But after the story of Caedus, its hard to tell bc of how well written Caedus was and his path to insanity

[@DarthBalsamic]

I enjoyed this discussion. These are good. I don't have a take one way or the other, but I do understand the many sides after this discussion. I'm going have to go through the Anakin Solo story a bit more to know how I feel. I'm on Dark Nest now.

[@Jwine95]

If you do a format like this again. I would LOVE to see your take on Kreia and her teachings. I'd also request that you reach out to Papito Qinn on youtube for a collab. I don't think there is anyone on KZbin as well verse in Kreia lore and philosophy as him. Kreia's character has always facinated me and the messages chris was trying to convey through his game's characters had me in real life decades later still contemplating Kreia's philosophy and how that can translate to real world application. Pleaseeeee please please give me some kreia content! P.S. i don't think she'd be great in a vs series as she was always more of a philosopher and teacher than a combatant. ALSO HUGE SHOUT OUT to Paptio Qinn for staying true to kotor 1&2 lore for as long as he has. I really think he could be a huge asset

[@emzonik8851]

9:55 - Are we sure it was his spirit though? Anakin didn't bece a for e ghost therefore he had to disolve in the force right after his death. I always assumed that "Anakin, Jacen and Mara" from FotJ were rather force avatars, manifestations of them created by the force itself but not really them.

[@CrystalFire7x]

Love the use of the Yu-Gi-Oh!'s Japanese Soundtrack in the video as insert soundtrack there.

[@lukewarren9069]

This was awesome, Evan.

[@lordinvictus793]

Tahiri and Anakin also get married. My personal view of Tahiri is that she is a weak character-not in power so much as she is fundamentally a follower, and has a somewhat dependent personality. This is realistic, and something we don’t see much-someone who at the end of the day, feels lost and purposeless when not with someone else. Also Anakin surviving very much effects Jacen’s mindset, if he goes on his sojourn at all. If he doesn’t teach Ben, that changes a lot of his activities in the DNt era, especially with TK.

[@bradburgess7786]

Hey Evan I had a ideal about a good verses match up and wanted to know if you'd be interested in doing it since I've not seen anybody do it but anyways what do you think of Anakin Skywalker and obi wan kenobi vs darth revan and darth Malak I think it'd be a great match up plus it's fresh and new

[@zachanikwano]

I haven't read the NJO books and the "aftermath" books (i.e. the rest of the Legends timeline), though I know how the story progresses. I like the -subversion of expectations- curveball of having Anakin die. You expect the older, legacy characters to die and make way for the new blood, new heroes. It just makes sense, narratively. I know Lucas forbade the killing of the legacy characters, which as an aspiring writer I don't like, but the results of which I don't exactly hate either. I don't love things like how Mara Jade died, or even Caedus in his entirety. What I do like with the way Legends played out, is that war doesn't discriminate, it takes anyone and everyone. I feel like Chewie and Anakin dying raised the stakes.

[@cebenify]

Any way we can continue that what if section?

[@megagamernick9883]

As someone who is interested after reading wookiepedia and has started the New Jedi Order (at this time I am only 2 books in), I will say though I think they could have gone for an story line to have him mirror Darth Vader by having survived but captured by the Vong, maybe have him captured after being resuscitated by the Vong but because he of their immunity to the force Leia or anyone else can't sense him coming back because he is corrupted and maybe a spirit such as Darth Vader takes over. I am not saying Anakin Solo gets possessed by Skywalker/Vader but something similar happens when Anakin Skywalker killed Mace Windu. Leading to a fallen Anakin Solo waging a one man guerilla war against the Vong but at the same time has several clashes with New Republic/Galactic Alliance forces and it takes a meeting of his family to have him redeem himself as unlike Darth Vader, Anakin Solo could very well tap into the dark side, only for him to still try to fight honorably like a Jedi would showing mercy or trying his hardest to save civilians but goes into a frenzy if he fails. But that is just what I think.

[@w00dt0rchshowsandmods2]

Hey Evan I have a new idea for a versus match Lord Vindican vs Darth Nihilus.

[@maceryan64]

Please do more like this for Anakin. Keep it going!!

[@Raven09s]

I love how your what if section. Honestly the simplest answer tends to be the most likely. As this storyline was being published at the same time as the prequel movies, I do believe it's as simple as George not wanting 2 anakins active at the same time. Maybe if the njo series was published after ROTS, we would have gotten a very different story.

[@gimarakhirbey909]

10:53 so this means that Darth Caedus was gonna be able to time travel! How do even justify making a character that strong😭

[@BattlestarZenobia]

If you kept Anakin Solo alive with a cybernetic reconstruction you could link it with the Droid Sentience storyline that was dropped

[@deewatsoon6036]

A waste of space?? No, not even close... Just like his brother, Jacen and his sister, Jaina... He is a far better character and has a better story than whatever Disney's Canon has...

[@theradgegadgie6352]

Yes, he was wasted. This misusage of him (and subsequently Tahiri) was dumbness almost on a par with the idiocy of everything Disney has ever done.

[@johnzhou3860]

Nice video Evan. Anakin to me was wasted. A video idea you could do is "How strong were the yuuzhan vong" video, where you could discuss central yuuzhan vong characters and rank them as a combatants according to the fanalysis tier list? Are they high level jedi knight level? Low master? Council level?

[@ozymandiasprometheus1926]

Dude. He was my favorite character 😔😥🙁

[@todde.204]

YES!!! I remember reading when he died and I was quite surprised. They randomly offed one of the more interesting characters Legends ever had. It was years ago but I fired off an angry drunken letter to someone. Don't remember if it was the author or the publishing company but I was pissed!!! I remember in later books I was like he's coming back... He's coming back... is he coming back?? He didn't come back!! Well shit.... May I also say I hated when Chewie died... Funny I'm still mad about this lol

[@lordinvictus793]

How would Anakin react to Vergere? How does he react to Jacen’s return?

[@maksymilianziele28]

Before Anakin Skywalker was the Chosen One, this kid was supposed to be the champion of New Jedi Order. Sadly he died and the order and his family (especially his dad) were never the same. He later told after his death - everyone must be special in their own way, there is no need for reliance on Chosen Ones or Champions.

[@exilhannabal]

You know This proposed flow walking thing sounds like what happened with Ahsoka

[@2TCHOLMES]

Also, Evan, do you reckon Jacen might still have turned to the Dark Side with Anakin still alive, just under different circumstances?

[@joroa7151]

Another excellent video Evan. A bit of a side note, but have you considered creating a discord channel or something? Would be nice to be part of a community of sorts where we discuss and interact Star Wars Legends related topics and discuss your videos?

[@robertgeorge4602]

Oh shoot I was late to the party. Cool discussion for a character with a lot of potential. Did not remember that the Voong engineered a Jedi killer beast similar to the Sith Leviathan. As for Anakin himself, I remember liking him. His death was iconic it had an pretty big impact on the story. Fun discussion and you did your homework. I know I posted this before, but since you are a fan of anime, did you watch Star Wars Visions? 26:25 If only Anakin lived during the NJO era. Then he would have learned to not be a Yandere.

[@thelegend_jlz]

I mean I’ve heard of him, but there wasn’t really much to talk about him. They mainly focused on Jacen Solo and Ben Skywalker.

[@thedude3065]

I wasn't against him dying I just thought it happened too soon

[@lordinvictus793]

I always felt that Jacen’s philosophical emphasis over Anakin’s martial aspect fit the NJo’s theme better. But again, I am a Jacen fan so I admit to having a rather large bias

[@lordinvictus793]

@Anakin Solo the fundamental theme of the NJO is victory is not achieved through martial prowess, but through understanding and mercy. Jacen understands the Vong-and is thus able to as Vergere put it, "save them, defeat them, transform them". Jacen's mystical sage and empathy driven character fits this better than Anakin. Its Jacen who makes friends with the worldbrain, and Jacen who through supreme humility overcomes the supreme overlord.

[@milanjazbincsek155]

I was angry when Jacen turned to the Dark Side. Not just turned to the Dark Side but also killed by his own sister. Jacen was my favorite jedi when I was young. You could do a video about THAT...

[@alsimmonshellspawn6021]

Not all story need happy ending

[@Savageronin506]

Def a waste, went out like a boss. He should've been the one to inherit the academy, and the title Grandmaster. Great series, but I wish he would've lived and we got see him live out his days.

[@brianjordan3841]

N that I think is what truly makes Anakin Solo a tragic character it’s not so much that he died it’s that he had great potential laid out 4 him only to die b4 he could realize that potential

[@AllCheatRiders]

Anakin solo is still a childhood hero

[@muhamedquraishi]

Any idea of what the ETA is on “What if Count Dooku was redeemed?”

[@HATEPR00F]

I think Anakin Solo's death was a waste because in my opinion he was by far the most interesting character of the Solo kids. While Jaina and Jacen got a lot of development from his passing it didn't give either of them the protagonist potential that was on Anakin from his introduction. Between the weight of his name and all the potential everyone else saw in him it made for a really interesting story of a young kid trying to undo past wrongs without the first clue of how. That he ended up becoming the hero everyone knew he could be only to have that snuffed out so early felt like a real slap in the face as a reader. Not to mention that this was the same kid they killed Chewie protecting and he never even got to grow up? Nah, that's a waste in my eyes. They should've killed Jacen.

[@theradgegadgie6352]

Apparently, they originally intended to, until George stuck his twopenn'orth in about two Anakins being confusing. (Wanker!) However, that means Anakin would've ended up becoming Darth Caedus and being killed by Tahiri after having Jaina as an apprentice, and I would HATED that even more. Either way, their treatment of this character sucked.

[@msolerblue78]

Uhhhh NNNOoo. He was the catalyst for a new sith lord. And not to mention Tahi ri’s character arch

[@lordinvictus793]

Jacen is the redeemer of the Vong-as a species. This is just not a role I see Anakin fulfilling, at least not without major revisions.

[@sithlord115]

please make a full what if

[@br3ndan538]

Do you mind passing me some of those renders you used?