Was Avatar A Good Movie?

James Cameron's Avatar released in 2009 to extraordinary success, becoming the highest grossing movie of all time. But despite that, it's one of the most forgettable movies ever. So in this Avatar Retrospective I want to find out... was Avatar a good movie?
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0:00 The Success of Avatar
3:22 The Plot of Avatar
14:40 The Review of Avatar
18:10 The Production of Avatar
24:36 The Future of Avatar
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[@redgarlicbred6228]

People legit bashed jake for betraying the human race to clap some alien cheeks, as if that wasn't the whole point of raiding area 51 smh

[@Texasmule]

I wanted to end my life when I couldn't clap some space lizard cheeks

[@baki484]

@@Texasmule minute movies? 😂

[@Texasmule]

@@baki484 🤣

[@baki484]

@@Texasmule who else uses a phrases like that? "Man wakes up as an alien instantly enjoys it" would've been a good title too.

[@Texasmule]

@@baki484 idk what minute movies is but I was devastated when I found out there's no lizard lady waiting for me to free her with my donkey.

[@Sethisalive]

I was almost 15 at the time. I watched it twice. It made me feel as if my world was almost worthless with how beautiful and amazing Avatar was. That faded thankfully. But it was absolutely a hugely important stepping stone in CGI development.

[@ricky.t.1658]

@@SunzenkaiGamecast i like real life more than pandora

[@pisscvre69]

pandora is south america with bioluminescence its basically here

[@trslim6032]

My favorite line in Avatar is when the Burke villian says, "Look at all that cheddar!" I said that whenever I found a civ in Civ V that had a resource I wanted. "They're pissing on us without the courtesy to call it rain," is the only other quote that I've said before.

[@Moonshadownova]

I love civ 5 and sometimes I feel like I’m the only person who still plays it lol

[@cheesypoohalo]

Real talk I might consider Avatar one of my favourite movies- it's not the top dog, but it's up there. I'm a huge fan of sci-fi fantasy and world building, especially monster design, and we so rarely see Hollywood throw money at this kind of weird stuff, it made it an absolute treat to see. I even did my university dissertation on it, discussing the changing portrayal of transhumanism in film, in particular with our acceptance of using technology to change our bodies, breaking the link of seeing ourselves as our body, and instead seeing our bodies as just a material shell. The main comparison was Surrogates vs Avatar, how one has humans reject their robot bodies to return to the 'better natural' bodies, while Avatar sees leaving Jake's human body as the correct decision. This was a huge jump in culture imo, and we see the continued evolution with things like male Twitch streamers using VR anime girl avatars and people being fine with it. Sorry, got distracted. Yes, the plot is very plain- chosen one story with a lot of things that don't hold up to scrutiny- but it's easy to overlook these things because they were never the appeal in the first place. The movie still looks incredible, and although a bunch of human-looking blue aliens is kind of boring, I do find their fictional culture quite interesting, even though it's full of tropes. The part where they try to resurrect someone from the great tree is especially fascinating, I remember feeling like I was going to roll my eyeballs out of my skull when they said they'd just resurrect their friend and make death/consequences in the movie meaningless, but then it completely fails and the whole scene is almost just there to have you get immersed in their culture, their shared belief that this will work, and afterwards you kind of wish it did. We know resurrection is ridiculous, yet they genuinely believe it, with Jake starting to believe their traditions too, and I find portraying it like this really refreshing. Anyway, my point is I think the movie suffers with Star Wars Prequel syndrome, where Lucas poured so much into blowing us away with the world building and crazy aliens and planets and stuff, yet the average viewer just wants relatable characters and an easy to understand plot- except in Avatar's case it actually has this. To me it still feels so refreshing to see such a positive movie from this, it's not a grim sci-fi dystopia, it's a story about a beautiful planet with aliens that are the good guys while humans are evil, we see this so rarely with a Hollywood budget and I think that's pretty cool I guess. I'd go on to talk about Avatar in comparison to John Carter and Valerian, which are both big budget special-FX laden sci-fi extravaganzas that bombed at the box office, but you already explained it perfectly well in your video, Avatar made bank through a lot of luck and, although I like it, it doesn't have a formula for success, with similar movies failing all the time.

[@b.h.4249]

I like this movie for the exact same reasons, it's incredibly interesting from a worldbuilding perspective and doesn't automatically put humanity into the hero role which I really appreciate. I'm probably gonna watch Way of Water at the cinema if the plot isn't too generic. It'll be such a breath of fresh air after all the superhero movie bombardment in the last decade.

[@subhankitbasu620]

also the new water sim in the new movie is crazy !

[@tronam]

Its success wasn’t luck. People kept going to see it over and over again all around the world. It resonated globally in a very primal way that tons of cultures could relate to. Stories don’t have to be original or complicated: they just need to resonate and it did, whether the film snobs want to admit it or not. James Cameron has a very kinetic storytelling style that has broad appeal. Titanic was just Romeo & Juliet on a boat, but how he told the story along with groundbreaking visual effects became more than the sum of its parts. The how is more important than the what.

[@subhankitbasu620]

Avatar was and still is a Visual Masterpiece, the sense of scale was top notch !

[@human6310]

From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh

[@adityaunnava4304]

The hair tentacle sex scene thing is so weird to put in there. It recontextualizes everything that takes place with the tentacle insertion before and after that scene. They been effing animals as well as *TREES* WTF?!

[@jackreacher7495]

"tree huggers"

[@doodlemunchkin2222]

I thought so too, then found out the hair tentacle connection is not the act of sex itself, but a way of connecting two souls together, as in sharing thoughts and senses. Thus why it’s done to bond with animals and sync with them mentally. So they likely had…”normal” sex that we’re familiar with…but the addition of the tentacle connection to quite literally experience what the other is feeling physically and mentally adds an extra layer of intimacy to the act.

[@Adventurer-te8fl]

Ye, it’s prob not sex because that would mean they would produce offspring. The tentacles are supposed to represent a spiritual connection

[@roublesdoubles1445]

It's not really sex, it's a complete mental/neural connection to the other. In the context of mounts like the horse+ikran and even the ilu in avatar 2 that aren't sentient but still alive/semi intelligent, it's a practical connection so that rider and mount are connected and that's how they ride in sync with each other. With other na'vi, it's insanely more intimate because you're literally connecting your brain, your thoughs, feelings, subconscious etc to another person, essentially you're linking souls. That's why na'vi only have one life partner. It's kind of like a pet's adoption certificate VS a marriage certificate.

[@OfficialTommyEch]

The closest scientific explanation is that they are some kind of neurological transmitters and sensory nerves, in the same sense that the pleasure you receive by being touched on your genital evokes pleasure and a sensation of touch. But in the same way, you can have similar sensation of touch on your genitals that do not evoke arousal, because the brain is more complex than that. And so while you can touch a horse and touch your spouse with the same hand, it doesnt mean the neurological transmitters will react the same way. Chemically, the transmitters of the alien horse probably have a different composition than the same-race transmitters so that the brain knows which transmitters does what, exactly how our bodies react to different proteins.

[@Keks472]

I think a huge part of the success really is the 3D part, nowadays no one really cares about that but at the time it was HUUUUUUGE. I think our local german theater had more 3D screenings than normal ones.

[@martinmeyer]

I would also say that this being the first "real" 3D movie has the biggest impact on its success. It was pretty much a glorified tech demo and everybody wanted to see that...

[@andrewreynolds912]

I would love to see 3D again

[@OWnIshiiTrolling]

It was a movie with visual effects being the only selling point, but they were competent enough to nail that part. From what I remember, the use of 3D was appropriate and well done. Now every movie has amazing visual effects, so avatar lost the one thing it had going for itself, and is left with a shallow version of an old story. Of course nobody cares about it anymore.

[@cosmictrainer2919]

@@OWnIshiiTrolling how tho I think the story is epic

[@OWnIshiiTrolling]

@@cosmictrainer2919 The story isn't bad, but was arguably done better in other movies.

[@aaronhumphrey3514]

I thought it was a fun movie with a ripoff Dance With Wolves story and really cool special effects. I have no idea why it made so much money though, lol.

[@Lextorias]

If only we knew.

[@jacksfacts20]

You mean Pocahontas?

[@xdouche3608]

I ain't even interested in this movie, but I'll be damned if this wasn't legit invested in this video. Great job, loved it!

[@Lextorias]

Glad you liked it!

[@brandthemanlee]

I'll be honest I probably would've liked this movie alot more if I was really into sexy alien's from deviant art

[@mustardsauce1418]

I legitimately like this movie but I wish it would have made Jakes turn against humanity more convincing other than “clapping alien cheeks”

[@EikRandver]

I love this movie so much, to me it's just so intresting and im probably the only one in the world who is exicted for the other movies

[@isaacturner197]

Not the only one! I can't wait for the new film to come out :D

[@EikRandver]

@@isaacturner197 Ayyyy!!!!

[@aikothetrap905]

I'm so happy we're going to get more videos!

[@pinosmovieacademyakamoviet1993]

Your not alone haha I'm waiting for it since my ten year old ass left the cinema thirteen years ago hahahaha

[@vitoria96634]

i dont know, i felt legit happiness when i read your comments. that's adorable, i'm glad you're excited about the new movies, even if i don't know them very well i hope you all have a great time watching them!!

[@Dingbatman420]

My only wish for Way of Water is that I remember something

[@pinosmovieacademyakamoviet1993]

Just wanted to share my thoughts on Avatar: I'm one of the few people that saw it as a 10 year old in theaters (yeah if your parents are with you you can do that in Germany) and probably one of the few hardcore fans the movie has. Anyway Avatar was that one movie that shifted my perspective of scifi. Yeah the story is basic af. And the characters are basic. But all those concepts in it are not. It switches arround the tropes of the alien Invasion Genre. This time the humans are the invaders. There is a language barrier. If you look at the mcu for example everybody there speaks in English in the entire universe except for russians. The air of Pandora is not breathable and deadly for Humans. They need masks. Spacetravel takes years they have to put the passengers into cryosleep. I think it's all this world building that makes Avatar Look like a future that could really happen. And the other aspects in world of Pandora have so much depth and work put into it that the movie would become overly complex if the story would be that complex too... Trees that communicate with there roots makeing it a gigantic sentient being spanning an entire Planet. There is so much creativity and thought put into it. I think thats what makes Avatar so good and missunderstood. It's not about the Story. It's about the world it builds up and how the characters in it react to it. But I'm totally there with the point that the unobtanium needs a purpose. The second movie can build on that. And it could advance at the story too.

[@leahdavis9434]

Why did you say that like it's weird? Anyone can see any movie in theaters under NC17 and R, then you need an id or a parent.

[@pinosmovieacademyakamoviet1993]

@@leahdavis9434 cause I don't know how the age restrictions in other countries work 🌚 could differ a lot from country to country And as I said... I'm from Germany... we have a different rating system Here... The FSK for the ages 0, 6, 12, 16 & 18

[@goosewithagibus]

I remember watching it when I was 10 as well. I watched it maybe another dozen times in the next few years. Don't care much for it anymore though

[@pfeilspitze]

"The humans are the invaders" is basically Dances with Wolves or Pocahontas or even George of the Jungle. To quote _Trailer For Every Oscar-Winning Movie Ever_, "also I've decided to fight with the Native American metaphor against the American military metaphor".

[@wave1090]

Unobtanium has a purpose. It is a room temperature super conductor. That's the reason it levitates when exposed to magnetic fields.

[@Maya_Ruinz]

I really like the movie, the visuals, the amount of creativity and time put into the creation of Pandora is just crazy. They made their own language just for the film which outside of Star Trek and LOTR just doesn't happen all that often on that level. Even the 3d cameras used where hand crafted, the 3d fusion camera system took them 7 years of trial and error to create...James Cameron and his team are just wizards.

[@goosewithagibus]

They didn't make languages for the LotR movies, Tolkien made them for the book. He actually made them BEFORE the book lol

[@tenacious645]

His synopsis of this movie is fucking hilarious 😂😂 "but it doesn't work because she's not the protagonist of the movie" it's all delivery lol....anyways I liked Avatar. Is it dumb, cliche, nonsense? Yes, but that's why I like it

[@armenhammer5015]

Avatar was popular at the time because it was seen as a giant tech demo.

[@Valkod23]

I absolutely remember Avatar, the video game is great since you can just stay with the RDF and it turns out that Na'vi (or however you spell it, I don't care), are rather easily killed by grenade launchers and those dumb plants that eat you burn down to a Flamethrower real fast.

[@NEWJAMHUNTER]

13:25 A Titanfall reference in the most unexpected instance I've ever seen! You Sir have made a joke for a niche game that I am EXTREMELY passionate about. Thank you! *SUBSCRIBED*

[@katyyulig]

Avatar had a very important cultural impact. It gave us the link we were missing to propel the furry fandom to the mainstream.

[@doublesoul862]

For me, the most memorable part of that movie isn't the plot or characters, but the CGI. When I look at stuff made nowadays (phase 4 mcu for example), I really can't help but feel that Avatar did a job orders of magnitude better. Years after watching it I still remember the shots of rockets fired at the massive tree by hundreds of flying craft, the flying dinosaur bird things in the sky mountains, or the glowing tree. The scenery was and still is absolutely stunning.

[@bencordery5623]

I remember after I first watched Avatar years ago and thought "this is nothing more Pocahontas in space" which was probably part of the reason why it was so easily forgotton.

[@lapiswolf2780]

I've known about the bare existence of the Avatar movie for years(simply as 'movie with blue aliens') but I only now, in this very moment watching this video, realized why the movie was called Avatar. 😵‍💫

[@AlicanErenKuzu]

The motivation of the bad guys is actually that they think, they can take what they want and as they get a bit of turbulence, they get pissed off by it. I once was playing a police man in a tv show and was just a random guy without any backstory. So what could I do in that scene? I read the part and quickly realized that I could be pissed off that the heros really think they can fool me and disrespect me. So it fueled my motivations everytime someone managed to trick me. it blew up as one of they actually ran away and I couldnt catch him. Result : arrest the others. even if they had nothing to do with that one guy. In avatar its a similar situation. Imagine you do a job and you are very ambitious. You are also isolated from other people everyday struggle. Like a trader who loses and wins everyday the money normal people wouldve make in 10 years of hard work. Then some people come around and shake your bubble. Of course you dont just go home and say "well I was an idiot anyway so lets be reasonable here" instead you defend your position. Simply because its the thing that matters to you. The Money guy is just above everything. He doesnt even realize the pain he causes. Quadrich is aware but for him its everything he believes in HIMSELF thats disrespected in this moment. I think I actually thought of him as I was playing my small police role. But I guess not everybody sees this. You have to be a bit like him to see that. I have got the tech noir book of james cameron and he has a little story how he got in a bloody fight with a filmdirector who disrespected his artwork he made for the film of teh director. You have to have a bit of testesterone to react like quadrich and understand him. Its not just some weak motivation. Its something people call today "toxic masculinity" but I think its a basic human behavior of certain type of people who devoted themselves to something authoritarian.

[@marocat4749]

It is valid to eplore the very swallow but same time cooperate thinking, but then make actiual social criticism of it or make fun of it, fmaking un of it works too. But thats how swallow it is to not even go in captain planets villain motivation. , and to be fair, captain planet established over episodes a pattern that thy may be driven by just greed. And given more exposure tothat by virtue of repetition in the series. It avatars fault if there are no clues to make him human enough , r funny, to think about why captain planet villain could do what he does.

[@tronam]

It’s my mother’s favorite movie (and she can name all the characters). It may not appeal to younger viewers these days, but don’t be surprised if tons of people who don’t ordinarily go to the theater make the trip for these sequels. Keep in mind that $2bil of its original box office was from overseas, especially China, so it had a lot of cross cultural resonance. Don’t underestimate James Cameron.

[@marcoasturias8520]

I'd say it had some cultural footprint: the setting. Many cgi movies or scifi videogames have a bio luminiscent forest

[@gege1178]

I believe that the plot of avatar was a complete after thought, they worked so hard on genuinely impressive and meticulous world building and tech , and then remembered “fuck this is movie, it needs a plot “ and this is the result.

[@nocturne6320]

For me Avatar wasn't as much about the story about simply being immersed. Hell, after it released it even created its small fandom of people being depressed because they cannot go to Pandora. Yes, the story is shallow and uninteresting, but the movie managed to pull you into it's world like only a few movies could. As for the lead actor, I'm glad it was a "nobody", because I think that's what made it so cool, it wasn't Chris Pratt, or whoever, going to Pandora, it was a "a character" going to pandora, blank slate that's easy to project yourself onto.

[@shibernyan2009]

Avatar instantly became my favorite movie the moment I first saw it in theaters (and we watched it 3 times in theaters when it was first released). It's not perfect, there's a few mistakes (the deer😅) and some extra details on some small things would have been nice (which would mean a longer movie but I really wouldn't mind that). But honestly, does a movie have to be complex to still be entertaining? I don't think so, because many of my favorite shows and movies are very much these simple or cliché stories with very few to no grey characters. But they're so entertaining and they manage to pull me into the story on an emotional level. Each time I watch Avatar, it's like I'm watching it for the first time again. Each time it manages to make me laugh, cry, angry and get hyped up when stuff is about to go down (and I'd say that indicates good story writing). There's also not a single other fantasy world that's quite like Pandora and it's easily the most beautiful and alluring one ever depicted in movies to me. On top of that, I'm a big nature person, especially when it comes to animals, and I'm big on art and design too. There's of course loads of uniquely designed animals with masterfully executed CGI in this movie. But the message to stop destroying our planet/nature is also of course something I really stand for. So it really portrays everything I love and care for while making me so emotionally invested in it no matter how many times I've seen it. That's what makes it so entertaining. No other movie has managed to do that to this extent, which is why it's still my favorite movie of all time.

[@ZipZapTesla]

I had to apologize to my then-girlfriend for taking her to see Avatar 2. It was so tedious and she hadn't even seen the first one. If you ever have a movie date, don't go to see Avatar.

[@ravenknight4876]

7:33 "Tits", as in the secondary sexual characteristic human women have, do not actually primarily serve the Purpose of dispensing milk. That could be accomplished the same way as it is in the supermajority of mammals by just having nipples. The protrusion of breasts is actually meant to look like the posterior, or Behind, or Ass, since the size of that is one of the main indicator of health male mammals use to decide who to pair up with. For humans, which are the only mammals to walk upright, the posterior of their potential partners is no longer in their direct field of vision, so female humans evolved breasts instead. Assuming a similar evolutionary history for the Navii, it makes a lot of sense that Female Navii would also indeed have breasts, though they would not contain a mammary gland and instead just kinda hang in there.

[@TheMcCannic1]

Found you only recently and going back to watch everything you've made. Massively impressed by what you produce, your manner of speaking, presentation and research means I'd probably watch a video of yours on *any* subject. Thats not me issuing a challenge tho! Seriously though, hope you keep this up

[@MrCaw77]

You need more subscribers my dude! I just came from the anime fanservice deep dive and now I am addicted.

[@cynicamane187]

Fr

[@lifepointgaming5003]

I just discovered this channel and watched like one and a half videos before my wife came to check on me still sitting on the toilet…lol great content should be a million subs here.

[@Ragundah]

Avatar was/is one of my favorite movies. I loved the whole idea of diving into another body and living a different life. I'm so excited stuff is happening again with it!

[@KoeSeer]

here's the thing: There's no topic interesting enough to discuss about Avatar with another person beside the "cool CGI". The movie is a plain vanilla ice cream. as much as I hate MCU phase 4, at least we could talk about it, like a "what if" scenario or the flaws of the plot.

[@leahdavis9434]

I challenge that opinion with Jenny Nicholson's video on the avatar theme park lore

[@pangopod2969]

I searched for a name and the only one that came to my mind was toruk makto which is the name of the big red/orange bird riders in the past

[@cyanic3148]

I think most interested (and disappointing) thing is that it _could_ have been quite a cultural touchstone but Cameron kinda dumpsterd that chance: They went very in depth about Pandora worldbuilding, they hired NUMEROUS professors to help build the world, a linguistics professor to make the language, a plant physiology professor to advise for the flora of Pandora. And especially, they had a composer and an ethnomusicology professor slowly *_invent_* a whole new genre of song that was unique to the Na'vi's cultural that was so unique that James Cameron decided to dump it because it sounded too strange, and Cameron also dumped a few alien designs for the Pandoran animals because they were... too alien lmao

[@ryanelliott71698]

The onubtanium could’ve had a bit more depth if they explained why it’s valuable [excluding money]. For example, what if that minerals components makes it more durable, light and stronger than any mineral on earth. Making it great for colonizing planets.

[@Mir_Teiwaz]

The main thing I remember from this movie was the news article that came out saying that the movie made people depressed because they wanted to be a naavi and live on Pandora as well. Or something along that line.

[@dkdieall6005]

as someone who was two when this came out, and just watched yesterday n for the first time in years I can infact say that, while the movie is quite cliche it is almost 10x better than most of the movies coming out now. I mean just think about how cool this shit was it came out in 2009 for crying out loud. The cgi is better than most of the movies I see coming out this year.

[@TheOrian34]

Avatar is kinda like the big budget AAA games that are bland but try their hardest to be the ultra SSD 360K raytracer graphics. Only to end up forgotten 3 years later when technology improved.

[@perfectallycromulent]

i remember the names of the characters as "that guy from Friends" and "that guy from Grandma's Boy" and "Ellen Ripley"

[@chrisfratz]

I first watched this move in a VR movie theater in NEOS VR, on a giant screen. And because i fell in love with 3D movies the test prior, i watched the 3D version and I loved it. i think a big things that changes this movie compared to how most people talk about it is the fact that the Na'vi's good is real. And Jake commits to the Na'vi and their belief.

[@chrisfratz]

I've never seen the extended edition of this movie because I genuinely think that this movie should be seen in 3D because it's how it was intended to be seen. An extended cut was never released in 3D. I do think the theatrical version is a very tight movie, and It squeezes as much as it possibly can out of that approximately 2 hour run time. It also doesn't have things likely hair sex which means you don't start the question about how that works.

[@AmSleepyJay]

The easiest way I can describe what Avatar was is that it's just a cool tech demo of VFX. And based on how the second film was similar in the way of amazing VFX; generic storyline, makes me believe the rest of the films are going to be the same. It will be very interesting to see how much the technology evolves with each film. But in terms of the storyline, I believe all of them may continue to feel rushed, as they're trying to get filming done before the actors look too old to fit the characters.

[@Outcastic]

this is the movie that is known for being famous

[@tangerinemarmalade3326]

one of the towns I pass by when traveling from my hometown to the city I study in has a shopping centre kinda directed at children, and on its facade there are some logos for what's inside and one of them is just "Avatar" in the movie font I have no idea what is it even about and how long has it been there

[@spider_flash2439]

This is absolutely my favorite movie ever and I’m very excited for the sequel

[@dontdocrack6523]

Avatar fire asfff fr man ahhhh 💯💯 , not talkn BOut that blue arrow head

[@ghosthinnyouu]

YES it was and i love it so much and excited for the sequel

[@elchar3577]

I went to watch it when it came out and i think i fell asleep or have amnesia cuz the only thing i remember was the scene of them connecting with the flying things

[@piratenerdz1602]

One of the things i hear people complain about a lot with this movie is the whole blue Pocahontas argument. But like, isn't it better that we use that storyline in a completely fictional setting rather than twisting a real life tragedy

[@liamannegarner8083]

Fun fact: Sigourney Weaver's name in the first draft of the script was "Shipley."

[@liamannegarner8083]

Also, Sigourney Weaver dated my actor uncle a couple of times in the seventies, so we always laugh when she unexpectedly shows up in side roles in giant films. My cousin says "Finding Dory" made him groan.

[@alang.bandala8863]

Now that I think about it... Didn't the same thing happen with King Kong and Star Wars? A movie so simple and with characters so flat that a small child could understand at first, but with special effects so devastatingly good that they were crowned kings at the box office, but when their sequels came out, no one went to see?

[@valerialuna5363]

I always loved the visual aspects of the movie. let's hope the plot gets good in the second one

[@Amell_Wesker]

I quite liked it, and I am excited about the sequels.

[@bastiidavis3397]

Nearly all of my Friend know and like Avatar😂, me and a few friends watch it every year, its Not the best movie ever but still made an impact on us as we watched it 3 Times in cinema back in 09.

[@InDeathWeLove]

Do you regularly think of the best rollercoasters you have been on? Sure if someone brings it up you might, but you don't just think about it for no real reason. Avatar is a great ride and experience in the moment. Even more so with IMAX and 3D on the cinema screen. Besides that though it just really doesn't offer that much.

[@Sb129]

Looked like a showcase of effects and CGI more then a story that needed to be told. But those were some incredible effects and CGI for 2009~ And having an insanely good CGI + being in 3D made it a guaranteed success as long as the story was adequate and it was.

[@night1952]

They could've done something interesting with the unobtanium, give it some nearly magical properties that make it so valuable. It's so weird that a movie with so much care into world building does nothing with it. It could also explain why the Na'vi are so good at fending off the human military, because as it is I don't believe they can fight back at all. I'll suspend my desbelief during the movie, but think about it for two seconds and it doesn't make sense.

[@nobodythisisstupid4888]

Coming in after seeing Avatar Way of the Water, I think it had more interesting of a story with more complex character relationships. It’s still not a movie where plot is the main focus, but I do like how they expanded the world building. It also goes hard on themes surrounding the human impact on nature. It was incredibly fucking sad and depressing, and I don’t think I will have the energy to put myself through it again. I still think it’s worth watching, but it can be very hard to watch, especially if you are already painfully aware of how industrialization is destroying our planet.

[@bogats2397]

I feel betrayed. I have seen this film so many times (its one of my youngest brothers hyper-fixations) and I have just now found out that there is an extended version of the film featuring a scene where Norm picks up a copy of the Lorax, among other things. Enraging. Edit: Okay maybe I'm fine not having seen them connect their hair and moan when they mate. Also Tsu tey doesn't have screen time after the battle in the version I'm familiar with.

[@InabaPrism]

Cameron doesn't care. He makes these movies to fund his deep sea exploration, the thing he actually enjoys in life, and you know what? Respect.

[@randommexicandude3061]

I just stopped dating a person who's favorite movie was Avatar lmao

[@Cr2-10]

Avatar is just a crowdfunding for Alita, i won’t elaborate

[@hola25251212]

The motivation of money to impress bosses hits too close from home if you have worked on a company, all savings projects are about reducing quality to boost gains

[@MrEffectfilms]

I feel like most people don't understand this movie at all. I was 17 at the time and this along with the previous years The Dark Knight were what inspired my love for film. For a while it was my favorite movie but even now it's still one of my favorites and I hate that it's only remembered now for being a pretty but bland movie. If that were true then most movies should all be making $2,000,000,000 as well. You don't make that kind of money with CG alone.

[@rainbows98]

i dont remember much about the movie or cared for it, but i had the wii game that i played with my sister and i LOVED it. it was terrible but the memories and fun i had with it was all that mattered.

[@the_gratefulgamer]

It was a Pocahontas, Ferngully, EagleEye reverse Independence Day remix

[@wave1090]

Unobtanium really isn't as dumb a name as people make it out to be. It is an actual name used in stem to refer to fictional materials with amazing properties or materials so god damn expensive they might as well be unobtanable. Example: A: "We should just get a harder material to built this" B: "We already are using synthetic diamonds, what do you think is harder that this? Fucking unobtanium?"

[@user-tq6vf2nu3m]

avatar is my favorite movie because i've watched it more than once

[@TheKenji2221]

Cartman's vision with Dance with the Smurfs was obviously the best. He was ripped from his success

[@MulinaTheAngelWolf]

One of the first conversations with someone I’m in love with. Was him being like “quote the movie “ because it’s my favorite with train to busan And I could only roughly use the urine line. 🥴 now I purposely will lightly quote it at him.

[@rickenbacker40011]

What do you mean its worth money, and people want to please their boss is weak motivation. That’s LITERALLY the entire planets motivation. Its weak as fuck, but accurate

[@thrakerzad5874]

I think what avatar proves is you don't really need a story or complex chatacters if the film is fun enough to watch.

[@rgmoses2189]

Being deadass, the only reason I can name Jake and Naatiri is because Ive watched way of water 3 times now but I still cant name anyone else from the first or second movie. Idk what it is about me or this movie but I'm shocked because unlike most, I didnt see them in theaters for some 3d eye candy and I actually like the plot somewhat but everyone inckuding the main character is forgettable

[@vizthex]

maybe the hair tentacles are multi-functional? Like there's a "sex mode" and a "tame animals mode" rather than him space sex-ing all the mounts.

[@AznDrInk]

this movie is okay but ur writing is exceptional so funny i was bustin out laughing the whole time 🤣🤣

[@threemoo]

The Lorax scene isn't in the regular release, only in extended version.

[@chrisfratz]

Just like the hair sex scene. And I think that scene has an obvious reason for why it wasn't in the theatrical cut.

[@ninjaknight-jn9ky]

Only comment I have i that unobtanium isn't the name of the material is just what you call a material that does something impossible with modern materials like adamantiam from xmen, it's supposed to be a superconducting mineral which would make it incredibly valuable. And the floating mountains technically possible. But it's scifi.

[@chrisrosenkreuz23]

2:24 my boi erik when he was young

[@jasonallen5318]

You are wrong about Avatar having no competition, Sherlock Holmes was in theaters at that same time.

[@lenowoo]

Wait wait wait wait wait. . . Now that you said it. I didn't remember any of the characters name. Like, at all. Not even the main character.

[@Fenrize]

It kind of made me think of a scifi version of Pocahontas or something,not exactly but there are some familiar elements

[@bohanxu6125]

I disagree that avatar has a simple and old plot. I think Avatar has a very intersting and noval story. Jake's redemption arc is so much more than the dude from Pocahontas. Jake did want to work for the boss since he was a cold blooded solider who just care about the mission and getting his legs back. He did first give secret to the military while not telling NaVi people's his truth intention. However, he gradually become a more compassionate person and got accepted by the NaVi people. Eventually he decided to tell NaVi people's the truth of his mission.... but Navi regard that as betray and Jake had to earn their trust again. I think this story is interesting and noval... Feel free to give an other story that are similar and similarly complex (by the way, pochahontas is not it... the dude in pochahontas had love in first sight with little moral conflict in considering the morality of each side. the dude never got accepted by the tribe not to be rejected later on due to his confession.)

[@MeisterGlanz86]

Woah Woah! You uploaded this on my Birthday. Ohhhhh......ITS MAGIC! YOU KNOOOOWWWWWW....

[@YUNGSLEEVES]

its back!!!! the gaming community is owned by avatar now lets gooo

[@pondwater]

this is really entertaining

[@noonespecial311]

I was 9 when I watched this. How did I not notice the explicit content in this movie?

[@ajfunke7419]

Personally, I like the movie. In the end it is just a cgi fest, but it has enough writing and storytelling for me to say it's one of my favorites and not see it any better then a Love Death and Robots episode.

[@kalisnumber1]

I haven't even watched the movie yet, But I had very fond memories of watching avatar so yeah, I'd say it was pretty good

[@JuiceboxTheShuckle]

Not my favorite, but I do watch the extended version of Avatar like once a year. It has flaws, but is a very enjoyable/entertaining movie to watch, especially with the added scenes in the extended version.

[@chriselliott8830]

Oh my God dude the joke about the space tentacles and the effing of his horse or space dragon hilarious

[@MichaelSillion]

I love Avatar and have seen it many times.

[@umilumi9469]

Ya avatar is my favorite movie, and I talk about to it everyone u know

[@SoundsphereRo]

you cool, subscribed!

[@hyperkaioken4982]

it was a great movie it was the only movie to this day I went to see it 3 times and i remember everything about it

[@BbBb-sd2bs]

Pocahontas in space, with good FX.

[@johnnie_rabbit]

Fellas, I come with a message from the future, I watched the second Avatar movie just a month or so ago, I literally cannot remember a single thing about plot, names, cooperation, nothing. I just remember a slight tint of green. In short, it was forgettable.

[@antoinethemuggle4516]

The new question would be if the sheer beauty of the movie can hold the franchise. Nowadays technology is far more advanced and videogames like horizon forbidden west offer you a much better experience

[@jahfrenelkins2978]

would you ever do anything on the bayformers movies on the audiences reaction to changes in characters personalities and appearances optimus prime for example

[@Lextorias]

that's an interesting idea. I don't know if I'm into transformers enough to really cover that though

On a side note, Avatar, The last airbender is not a children's cartoon