Was Baruch Spinoza Secretly A Rosicrucian?

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A lens-grinding philosopher of Jewish descent, Spinoza's rationalistic interpretations of God and nature not only revolutionized the way Europe conceived of the Divine but also placed him on a precarious edge with his contemporaries.
Historically, there has been speculation surrounding Spinoza's affiliation with the Rosicrucians.
This argument exists primarily because of his name, Spinoza, which echoes the Latin term, Espinosa, meaning rose with sharp thorns.
But there is more to this story than meets the eye and the importance of this argument stretches beyond mere historical curiosity.
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⌛ Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
2:18 The Intellectual Climate of the 17th-Century Netherlands
5:15 The Religious Landscape, Heresies, and Excommunications
6:43 Spinoza's Pantheism and Its Connections to Rosicrucian Doctrines
8:18 Possible Points of Divergence Between Spinoza's Beliefs and Those of the Rosicrucians
9:50 Spinoza's Personal Library And Correspondences
11:33 The Company He Kept: Acquaintances, Teachers, and Mentors
13:20 Symbolism and Imagery: Echoes and Overlaps
17:11 Contemporary Views on Spinoza: Suspicions and Accusations
19:54 Conclusion
22:17 Question & Outro
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@agrippasdiary 8 ай бұрын

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@nazareno.d.ulvedal 8 ай бұрын

@@paulwelsh5749 Spinoza just ate "magic" 'shrooms in Neerlands. Eat'em and you will figure it out by reading him again. No lodges, no creeds, no guilds, just hebrew teachings and 'shrooms.

@bobross5079 8 ай бұрын

3 sides real ,. Good ,. Evil and Hermes Side (the Trinity exists for a reason)

@nazareno.d.ulvedal 8 ай бұрын

@@paulwelsh5749 The Lurian Kabbalah principles are contradictory. The Tzimtzum tells that everything started in The Dot (Kether) and mover from Ain Soph Aur to Ain as the force of Arich Anpin conceived all the other emanations called Zepir Anpin. My point is: how could you, so sure, affirmate about the characteristics of a so complex system of creation speaking from a so called "Unknown (headless) manifestation". There is no sense on trying to explain the begining of exisence (Reshimu, Kav and Avir) starting off from the affimation of an unknown principle. I just can't imagine how Luria could know about something that requires to be witnessing the time in wich there wasn't any form of life or inteligence beyond physics, it is just absolutely absurd and implausible.

@nazareno.d.ulvedal 8 ай бұрын

@@paulwelsh5749 You are taking that out of context. "I can't imagine" it's a way of say.

@nazareno.d.ulvedal 8 ай бұрын

@@paulwelsh5749 Funny is that your counter argument is to take out of context a way of say. You have no valid arguments beyond that.

@michaelhernon8163 8 ай бұрын

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@Alacrates 8 ай бұрын

Great presentation, very cautious and balanced. Id be interested in s similar video on Liebniz and the Rosicrucians.

@TheUndergoundMan 8 ай бұрын

While Spinoza's work has a strong rationalist foundation, its engagement with these mystical and esoteric themes has made it a point of intersection between philosophy and spirituality. It can be a source of inspiration for individuals seeking a deeper understanding of the relationship between the human experience, the divine, and the mysteries of existence.

@alchemicalweddings7489 7 ай бұрын

Have you read Shmakov's work, he was a leading 'White Russian' esotericist who quotes Spinoza at length in his own books

@TheUndergoundMan 7 ай бұрын

@@alchemicalweddings7489 "I appreciate the recommendation! I'm not familiar with his work, but I'm always eager to explore new perspectives in esotericism and philosophy.

@buckfred1 8 ай бұрын

Wonderful! Thank you for all of your wonderful work!

@shinmentakezo4131 8 ай бұрын

Interesting topic, never thought about making this connection ngl

@Cybervue 8 ай бұрын

Excellent. I visited his grave in Den Haag.

@bobross5079 8 ай бұрын

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@BoxheadHakx 5 ай бұрын

With Mr. Mythos out, im glad youre creating this content. Along with Esoterica, I've learned so much before the great delineation of information we will all experience in some form in our lifetimes.

@chooseyourenergy 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing 💗

@RebelJones-wg7vz 8 ай бұрын

Beautiful work..

@kaylajensen9670 7 ай бұрын

I have been sharing! Hope this channel blows up!

@agrippasdiary 7 ай бұрын

Much appreciated!

@richardagar7830 7 ай бұрын

Great video thank you!

@bobtarmac1828 8 ай бұрын

Good work!

@alchemicalweddings7489 7 ай бұрын

Given how often he is quoted by acknowledged Rosicrucian philosophers, such as Vladimir Shmakov (extensively in his Holy Book of Thoth and Pneumatology), I'd say Spinoza did have links to occult orders and expressed esoteric principles in his work

@user-xu9wl5qe2m 6 ай бұрын

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@briansmithenergy248 8 ай бұрын

Respect love and gratitude 🙏 you are the rose 🌹. Together we are the cross. We all drink from the cup. You are unlimited possibilities for wellbeing and success. God’s speed. Time is now. Unconditional love respect and gratitude #Weareguildford

@hhwippedcream 6 ай бұрын

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@jasonfox6966 8 ай бұрын

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@TheVileHenchman 8 ай бұрын

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@melissat5313 8 ай бұрын

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@melissat5313 8 ай бұрын

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@hichemrajhi 8 ай бұрын

Thanks brother!

@TomTom-yu1xp 8 ай бұрын

The more I watched this video, the more it convinced me that Spinoza wasn't a Rosicrucian at all.

@The_Archivist_ 8 ай бұрын

The pic at 5:11is supposed to have light rays right??

@nazarene5680 8 ай бұрын

Interesting and informative. I have their cross.+ . But I’m not a rosicrucian. But I share some similarities in beliefs. Born on Friday the 13th. My life is good and just. Also full of spiritual abundance.

@user-xu9wl5qe2m 6 ай бұрын

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@nazarene5680 6 ай бұрын

@@user-xu9wl5qe2m Thanks;)

@lightdarklightdarklightdark 8 ай бұрын

genius. thank you

@personalaccount2169 8 ай бұрын

I prefer your older catchphrase 'Modern Mystics' to the newer 'Mystical Seekers '. It just rolls off the tounge better.. Anywho, thanks for for videos.

@jixinflowers 5 ай бұрын

Thanks

@thomaspayne6974 8 ай бұрын

I suspect he was not a member, but he certainly was in dialogue with high ranking members (like Leibniz) due to his brilliant intellect and heterodox religious views.

@hotrod320 8 ай бұрын

na i dont think he was .but its like ...well i like heavy metal but i also listen to the blues..i was wondering if Emanuel Swedberg was influenced by the rosicrucian or did he have any influence on the rosicrucian? i really like this channel :)

@JonDoe-wo3ec 8 ай бұрын

Rosacrucians seem like they go with kabbalah sufism and anything mystical theological or simply always complex and otherwordly . I feel a new religion is needed ,one the combines all and psychadelics,resonance is key in union amd i feel we need to pay att to where our attention wanders at all times

@LukeSilverstar1000 8 ай бұрын

Excellent video! I wish you could make a new video every week, but I appreciate quality over quantity.

@robertforrester578 8 ай бұрын

Where are the 46 videos?

@SiegeJTV 3 ай бұрын

Does the narrator do other work? Thats an incredible voice that would be perfect for any documentary or perhaps a philosopher or a king role in a film

@monicademelosilva3354 5 ай бұрын

I think it is understandable that many members and non-members see similarities in Rosicrucian thought in relation to Spinoza's thought. However, I believe that this perception is not a consensus among Rosicrucians. Firstly, let us recognize that Rosicrucianism is made up of free thinkers. Secondly, many end up professing ideas that differ from those of the Order itself, so it is natural that there will not always be consensus. Particularly, I believe that a deep reflection on the philosophy of the Order makes the points of distinction in relation to Spinoza's thought relevant, many of which you so wisely cited. What people have difficulty understanding is that, when a premise (proposition or assumption) is false, it becomes the basis of an eristic syllogism or a paralogism (fallacies or faulty reasoning). In other words, no matter how attractive and coherent certain false premises may seem, once the premise is not correct, the conclusion drawn from it may be erroneous. The ambiguity and duplicity expressed by Spinoza allows us to find different contents in which to anchor different truth values, and here we could see Spinoza's paralogism. Even more, when we look at the derivations of both arguments (Rosicrucian and Spinoza's) we realize that they are profoundly discrepant. It's not up to me to say which of the two is correct or not. But it is worth stating that, without a shadow of a doubt, Spinoza's ideas differ from Rosicrucian ideas in what seems to me to be their essence and consequence. With votes of P.P.🌹 From 🇧🇷 S.R. Genuine.

@modusvivendi1442 8 ай бұрын

I would argue that Descartes burried hermetic thinking with his scientific rationalism by stating that if you can't see or measure something it just doesn't exist. We are still mostly caught in that trap today.

@gbbarn 8 ай бұрын

It is a matter of debate as this "trap" has set the wheels of progress in motion.

@gsnuf2 8 ай бұрын

@gbbarn are you saying without the "trap" there wouldn't be the progress we have today ?

@gbbarn 8 ай бұрын

@@gsnuf2 no

@jjrecon3024 8 ай бұрын

" I think, therefore I am " ... Con'fused 😅

@WololoLazarus 8 ай бұрын

Sort of and not sort of. Descartes acknowledged different types of phenomena in the pursuit of observing and measuring them objectively: known knowns, unknown knowns, and unknown unknowns - whereby objects with known variables are easily measured, objects with unknown variables can be deduced (both being scientific methodology), and unknown objects with unknown causes may be enlightened/revealed by the nature of cognition and intuition itself. Intuition also is integrated into the scientific method and its use is dependent on experience and competency (rationalism) as well as spontaneity/divine spark and natural sense (spiritualism). But yeah fundamentally he leaned towards what we would perceive today as hard-line rationalism - so usual heuristic razors, simpler explanations are often more true and if it can't be tested experimentally (physically or arithmetically) then it was materially dismissable.

@The_Archivist_ 8 ай бұрын

Bro we need to have a conversation, I know some pretty amazing stuff I can share. It would definitely be a lam dunk on your channel if u decided to post it too. I'm a master rosicrucian and I know a lot of 33rd Masonic knowledge too but I'm a vault of holy secrets and secret histories and people's I've been a guest on many shows on KZbin

@kesibarimichael5251 8 ай бұрын

Hello. Can we get to know? Share emails?

@christopherellis2663 8 ай бұрын

I have read Spinoza and know a little of the Rosicrucian story. The connection is tenuous at best. S was more practical and less indulgent of the arcane.

@yoiashi 7 ай бұрын

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@Missangie827 8 ай бұрын

the 17th century must have been something else!

@amerycarlson1326 8 ай бұрын

Hey Agrippa's Diary, you need to do a deep, deep dive into the Iberian Peninsula's history in general, including it being the location of the oldest city in Europe, and then further figure out what Christian Zionism a.k.a. Christian Kabbalism has to do with it, even the granular British Israelism crossover with Ireland. You are on point with the Netherlands crossover, however you need to figure out how it is a 'humanist' ideological hub to other parts of Europe like Germany and France. A whole lot more to it than that, however those Marranos in Portugal and Conversos in Spain are very, very important in figuring out what has been happening in general, even why the state of Georgia has become a recurring theme in the US Russiagate fiasco for instance, because it does indeed all come together into a cohesive whole if you take the time to look.

@kieranmaclean1701 8 ай бұрын

End to Pan. Please explain.

@ajrainman 2 ай бұрын

The whole point of the Ethics by spinoza is to simplify and show that one does not need complex symbolic or allegorical language to deconstruct the world. He arrived at this rigorously with reason (geometrically and by studying qaballah) and intuitively, imo

@jdewit8148 8 ай бұрын

If it was a secret, we'd never know.

@timphillips3275 8 ай бұрын

A Rose would never confuse God with Nature.

@bigmacklargefries 8 ай бұрын

Its ironic how there was a detective with the last name espenoza in the series Lucifer🤔

@KINGauTHORsRoyalSEAL 8 ай бұрын

0:48 is it ... ? ☝️ ROSE ☝️ with sharp thorns ... or iz it .... ? rose WITH sharp Thorns?

@Dillonmac96 8 ай бұрын

Anybody else looking to become Rosicrucian? We should form up.

@rfs55 8 ай бұрын

How do you become rosicrucian? Thank you

@vegamoonlight 8 ай бұрын

There are authentic Rosicrucian schools. These are the schools allowed by the Secret Chiefs.

@johansigg3869 7 ай бұрын

Admittedly this one seems like a stretch, by your own admission, but it was still a good video.

@MadBiker1337 8 ай бұрын

S.R.I.A ❤

@elsoil3387 8 ай бұрын

Have a shot of rum every time the word 'tapestry' or 'resonance' is used if thou shouldst seeketh enlightenment.

@user-xu9wl5qe2m 6 ай бұрын

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@sonminorimitsuu2838 8 ай бұрын

You have inspired me to take the side step to becoming a Rosicrucian.

@johngunning 8 ай бұрын

amorc

@rfs55 8 ай бұрын

How do you become rosicrucian?

@elsoil3387 8 ай бұрын

Freemasonry has orders of Rosicrucianism within it. And you would have many more friends / brothers.

@sonminorimitsuu2838 8 ай бұрын

You first have to be a Freemason, then join the Royal Arch (4th step) then ask a brother if they can introduce you Rosicrucian lodge meeting@@rfs55

@SlowPersuit 7 ай бұрын

Side step means "to avoid". So you are going to avoid becoming a Rosi.? Maybe a little more learning first?

@jodimichelleschoenherr 3 ай бұрын

💘💧🎁

@-o-light8863 8 ай бұрын

Spinoza was Jewish so undoubtedly he couldn't be nothing else.

@nazareno.d.ulvedal 8 ай бұрын

No, he wasn't. How do I know? Because .•.

@tatp571 8 ай бұрын

Spinoza-> Fihte-> Gennady Bondarev

@jaspernewcomb5656 8 ай бұрын

In my mind there's only one teacher of wisdom and that's Wisdom herself. She is the virgin meaning untouched/ uncorrupted by man. Men have a form of wisdom, lots of them and they teach them to each other mostly claiming they understand the truth. Let me tell you a secret. The true teacher doesn't tell you the answer she only let's you know when you're wrong. Everybody has their beliefs and opinions that's what makes us human. Who told you that you were naked? There it's settled then and death came to us all. Welcome to Hell how do you like it so far? There's only one way out.

@The_Archivist_ 8 ай бұрын

The rosicrucians do not have a solid foundation of belief that your God is personal in AMORC THEY DON'T PUSH YOU TO BELIEVE in any one God but in deeper rosicrucian and especially illumination texts and alchemical texts it is 100% acknowledge that in order to be anointed or given the higher knowledge of the philosopher's Stone that God has to bless you or your higher self blesses you with that knowledge you have to be chosen for it spiritual attainment of a certain order and knowledge of a certain order comes from outside the self and if God does not want you to have it you will not have it, the higher and more authentic you go and Rosicrucianism the more it turns into very pious Christianity ancient Templar and cathar toned sort of teachings where you become a servant to God and work on God's behalf on the Earth me and basically become a lightworker and your relationship with the one and only God and they do teach that God is not separate from the universe that the universe or spirit is God's body... That he thrust it out into the universe and that it eventually leads back to one point, in the rosicrucians do also believe in a dualistic universe scientifically and spiritually. One thing that is learned in the high degree of Templar is in and the 33rd degree of masonry when you get up to the rank of Rose cross and night or order of John is you learn who Christian rosenkreuz actually was Christian rosenkreuz was John and the foundation of the rosicrucians was nearly identical to a Templar order.... The Templars are so crazy about John and the lamb and called in the master builder because he was in the last incarnation of physical body that had enough nephilim DNA in it to accomplish the feat of the construction of Solomon's Temple.... I've tracked many of his incarnations and he teaches the exact same freaking tenants in each incarnation and in each incarnation he awakens at 5 years old and is fully initiated at 33 is born into a highly pious Christian a cult family or adopted into one very early but the rosicrucians being literally formed by John and one of John's maintenance is cabalism and alchemy and through both you learn the inseparable truth between you and God they reflect melchezidek/Templar/cathar gnostic themes farrrrr more than any where true rosicrucian adepts are found.... We are a branch of the original mystery schools ofgypt and the other order that's close to our core beliefs in masonry is the Memphis misriam... Original Rosicrucianism has ties to it. Also if you reach a certain attainment of knowledge and piety the invisible order will send rosicrucians to come find you there is an invisible or shall I say ascended group of Masters that work on behalf of humanity and full-blown real rosicrucians are in contact with that order of ascended masters and are instructed by those ascended masters on furthering their spiritual pursuits that are not written down.... And as a matter of fact if somebody does write down higher degree of esoteric attainment teachings beyond like the second sphere they tend to get pretty pissed off about that. Once you obtain the philosopher's Stone and you start taking the red medicine and your DNA is actually repaired enough to have the spiritual faculties they then contact you or somebody from the order comes and contacts you and starts giving you further instructions on spiritual work that cannot be found written down hardly anywhere on Earth, basically you end up needing them it's written in some of the most famous in advance. Chemical text that once you're done at that point take all your books and burn them including mine said the author because there are no further use to you and the knowledge is dangerous to leave around that from that point forward there is no earthly teacher that can assist you further that the invisible order takes over from there on