"Was Bonz About To Defeat Bakura? [Shadow Of A Duel]" | Kip Reacts to TGS Anime

[@jamessullivan9048]

I'm a simple man. I see a Kip Reacts To TGS Anime, I click. Enjoy your break Kip, you earned it.

[@Crested_Hadrosaur]

Agreed. It's always fun to watch these reactions. Hope kit has fun on his break.

[@filipvadas7602]

The fact that one of the only legitimate wins Bakura gets is against a side character that really didn't deserve the fate he got sends me

[@SakuraAvalon]

Not surprising when one of his big plays, was almost losing the duel to get Necrofear out. He lucked out hard that Yugi didn't get one more Monster, and end the entire duel, before Necrofear hit the Field.

[@filipvadas7602]

​@@SakuraAvalon funny part is that Yugi HAD a winning combo by turn 3 of the duel. But didn't use it cause PLOT. I swear, every time Bakura duels everyone involved gets worse at playing the game to make the plot happen. At least in the anime

[@RedDragonForce2]

@14:51 Actually, the truth is that the first release of "Shallow Grave" did NOT have the condition that both players MUST have a target for this card to be activated. Just either GY having a targetable monster is required. So this is a legal play during the time period "Shallow Grave" was first released before it's ERRATA.

[@KipReacts]

@RedDragonForce2 This is why I'm against erratas. Specifically when it comes to removing things off the Ban List. Just make a completely new card. Let the old one live in infamy. It also makes it easier to keep track when looking at legacy formats. Clarification Erratas are fine. Naruto had a Madara Uchiha card list, "1 Uchiha Madara Card" in its effect. The card cannot actually function without that errata. Necrovalley kinda needed some Clarification Errata.

[@neovagras980]

@@KipReactslike Crush Card Virus?

[@Airburn19]

Also remember guys, poly used to only work with monsters on the field back during magic ruler set.

[@KipReacts]

Old Poly was quite literally built different.

[@Airburn19]

@KipReacts built different, built stupid.

[@SakuraAvalon]

You've got to hand it to the animation team, for making Yami Bakura look badass/intimidating, while wearing a blue and white striped shirt, with a teal coat.

[@KipReacts]

@@SakuraAvalon 100%. They worked some magic on him.

[@keenanjohnson1296]

You and TGS anime teach me a lot about the mechanics of this game.

[@KipReacts]

I love his content. He integrates the TCG and OCG into the anime discussion very well.

[@Felnal]

13:40 The reason Dante can do that is because "detach 1-3 mats, then send equal number of cards from deck to GY" part is a cost rather than an effect. Unless a card is blocking a specific required action (i.e. Dimension Shifter shutting off the GY and blocking anything that sends to GY as cost), nothing in the game is actually stopping you from activating the effects of a card that's negated and subsequently paying the activation cost. So even if Dante is under Imperm/Veiler, he still has to detach mats and send cards to GY if you attempt to use his effect.

[@RedDragonForce2]

@13:56 Negating the Activation of effects doesn't negate the cost OF activations. It's like Jinzo negating trap effects, but if there's a cost to be paid, like IO, then the 700 will still be taken from the owner despite the effect being negated. You can't necessarily the COST of activating an effect, nor can you negate a "Maintenance Cost". Unlike negating Snatch Steal, which would negate the EFFECT of increasing LP. Cost vs effective activation and resolution. Cost can't be negated that easily, especially if the negating is in response to the cost being paid.

[@kruaser123]

Why?! Why does Snakehair + Dragon Zombie = Great Mammoth of Goldfine?! It could be anything + Mammoth Graveyard and it would make sense but no, it had to be knock off Medusa + zombified Crawling Dragon! This has bugged the shit out of me for 20+ years!

[@KipReacts]

@@kruaser123 Welcome to old Yugioh Fusion Monsters. They we head scratches sometimes.

[@keenanjohnson1296]

​@KipReacts Lady of Faith and a Witch made Hair metal.

[@jmurray1110]

Musician king And apparently that was because if black sabbath and Judas Priest

[@ryanbrook8384]

28:45 The rule was fusion summoned monsters cant attack the turn its fusion summoned. This is how xyz dragon cannon can attack on the turn its summoned because it wasn't fusion summoned.

[@filipvadas7602]

Both Shallow Grave and Polymerisation worked differently during this time. The former didn't require both players to have a GY target and the latter *needed* its materials on the field.

[@murderofcrows5089]

Could you imagine the insanity if yubel was in duelist kingdom oh God. Side note 15:22 that's one of my favorite scenes in the duel snake hair pulling herself out of the ground is so cool to me

[@KipReacts]

@@murderofcrows5089 Yubel wouldn't have done what it did in Duelist Kingdom. DK was more tabletop RPG with the game as a support structure.

[@murderofcrows5089]

@ I know what I talking about is the bs logic say Yugi would use if he was using her. I understand it’s more dnd than anything and I made that as clear as I could

[@dudono1744]

7:05 the effect goes off unless the first part says "lose exactly X ATK", which is notably the case with Apollousa. Also, the reason Fusion monsters get Summon sickness is to incentivize Tribute Summons, and therefore the use of God cards. Same reason that burn is banned.

[@Lpro1281]

Its so funny to look back at the anime duels and see how bad they actually were in terms of skill aspecially early on

[@SakuraAvalon]

Yeah, because it's built on entertainment first, actual functionality last. Like, no one's tuning in to see everyone try to Chaos Emperor into a Yata Lock every episode. lol

[@Lpro1281]

@SakuraAvalon yeah i'm not really complaining it's Just that when we were younger and knew less about the game we couldnt point out their mistakes wich are pretty obvious ones now

[@SakuraAvalon]

@@Lpro1281 Eh, with how nonsensical this game is, we're not much different from them. Some of these rulings are maddening.

[@Lpro1281]

@@SakuraAvalon yeah especially the players Who play stuff like master duel only would do so many mistakes in a IRL game since their cards wont light up when usable lmao

[@mathewmallon7208]

6:50 according to distantcoder, the game state would still remember how much into negative stat get, for later boosts, but practically the card would stop at 0

[@KipReacts]

@@mathewmallon7208 Interesting. I've just had such a mixed experience with negative stat rulings.

[@SakuraAvalon]

So, there is an issue. Spells can be used as Quick-Plays during the Battle Phase in Battle City. If Bakura had gone for Crass Clown instead(he wouldn't need the attack boost), when Bones went to attack with Mammoth of Goldfine on his turn, Bakura would activate his Spiritualistic Medium, and we'd be back here. And knowing Bones, he probably would shotgun the Premature Burial to get Dragon Zombie back(in this scenario, Mamoth hasn't died yet).

[@unaffectedbycardeffects9152]

Stats do go negative, but only in theory. You can't have a -500 atk monster, but if you buff a 0 atk monster whose attack has been lowered, the -500 will still be taken into account. Because reasons.

[@lo4tr]

The assumption is that Crass Clown is in defense and Goldfine is in attack, both ready to contest the Earl. However, all Bakura would have to do is run over Crass Clown and then leave his Spiritualistic Medium Spell card face-down. As explained in the video, Spell cards set on the field can act as Quick-Play Spells during the opponent's Battle Phase based on the anime logic. Therefore, if Goldfine attacked over Earl, Bakura could use Spiritualistic Medium to dump his hand and destroy Goldfine in the same manner. Additionally, if that happened on Bones' turn, he wouldn't have been able to activate Skull Invitation first, meaning Bakura would get away without even losing the life points from dumping his hand.

[@Doceli-dg3cn]

The fight begins 😂😂😂😂 28:26 also ye fusion monsters can attack when they are special summoned again after they are properly fusion summoned. In the first official duel of battle city when Atem took on the rare hunter after defeating exodia by using chain destruction, he used monster reborn to special summon the flying mythical Beast and use it to destroy the last defense monster. Then he attack directly with Apla with the power boost of summon skull

[@Yojimbo16]

When I saw this episode and Bonz activated Skull's Invitation, Bakura laughs and says, "Your Trap Card means nothing to me and to prove it, I'll send every card in my hand to the card graveyard" and for years I thought you can just discard whenever you wanted without the need of costs or effects. Fables and Infernity would have been busted if that was an actual rule.

[@numberhunter62]

Infernity player's do use the secret effect of setting their monsters in the backrow. AKA. cheating.

[@TheRichmaster24]

great to hear your thoughts

[@cmxb2081]

Theres is a example Yugi summoned chimera with Monster reborn against Rare Hunter that had Exodia and it attacked right away

[@trixtheghostwalker6634]

Bones could've fusioned summoned, then summoned armored zombie, then used premature burial to bring back snake hair hitting Bakura with more damage. I just thought about that(edit: my apologies for not being patient)

[@tyliex6536]

Not being competitive is my whole thing. One of my favorite decks is nemleria + golden castle strongburg it's super defensive, but often has the survival power to annoy meta slaves to death or until I resolve dreaming nemleria

[@ExodaCrown]

I used to play yugioh on this one site that had some anime only cards and user made cards so weird rule interactions was my specialty. Helped a friend who a lot of people found annoy because of her personality (it was, but she was a nice person overall) build a deck using some game only card that prevent you from losing when your life points reach zero and self destruct button. They wanted to rule it as a draw because one of the examples given for a draw is both player's life points hit 0 at the same time. I had a lot of weird decks like that on that site and had to do a lot of rule searching for similar card interactions. But yeah Bakura was a great villain both in the original and season 0.

[@WolfLandmaster]

My favorite Yugioh anime-only logic: When Time Wizard's effect is successful, it ages monsters by 1,000 years. In battle city when Joey dueled Espa Roba, he used Time Wizard against Jinzo and even though the effect was successful, it didn't destroy Jinzo because his armor is made of a metal that's guaranteed not to age, rust or corrode for 10,000 years.

[@sharplosion1]

I always liked Bonz. He was one of my favorite of the Dual Monsters era characters. Zombies are my favorite type, and I like his design and general attitude. While it's a shame and definitely too harsh for him to die canonically, at least he gets some video game stuff that kept him around, being the spooky little gremlin he is.

[@MatthewSP117]

I believe the reason we don't see them hand fuse is because when Kazuki takahashi was writing yugioh the manga he didn't mention it or bother with it and just thought fusing on the field was quicker and saved paper and time so when he finished battle city and we got the anime version of the arc from beginning to end of Battle City we never see a hand fusion just fusions on the field and before anyone says what about during the virtual world arc keep in mind its a filler arc and Mr Takahashi never had a say on it or wrote it so it doesn't count but we do see hand fusions later so maybe the argument was fusions must be on the field same with ritual in the rules of battle city and if we go further back to duelist kingdom the argument stands as we see fusions and ritual on the field no hand.

[@lupinrangerjoker]

If you actually rewatch Bakura’s duel for being one of the important antagonists he kept getting screwed by plot armor when he doesn’t cheat and has played all his duels fairly. Duel 1 - Yugi, change of heart should have resulted and taken little yugi as dark magician but plot said no I’ll take over my own monster instead. Cheated out of a fare duel. Duel 2 - Bonz, he won like he should have. Duel 3 - Yugi battle city finals, has Yugi in a no win situation. If he attacks the ghosts of dark sanctuary will wipe out his life points even had dark spirit of the silence to grantee lost and if he ends his turn destiny board finishes the duel. And if Yugi stalled he would have been disqualified. He had no good cards in his hand and he cheated to pull the ONLY card that was in his deck to bail him out. Duel 4 - Marik, he had to lost because of plot because what would it have said if bakura saved the show while everyone was asleep. Duel 5 - Kaiba, standstill so he didn’t lose but he didn’t win against kaiba but that wasn’t the point of the duel and Bakura got what he wanted already. Duel 6 - Little Yugi had to win against bukura since it was near the end of the anime

[@lf222]

Always loved this set of episodes for their art and animation, very asthetically appealing, helps that it has kagami as animation director, basically the god of the show on visuals

[@KipReacts]

The entire presentation here went so incredibly hard. I miss 2000s yugioh anime

[@numberhunter62]

I think Bakura nonchalantly threw his hand away was just to mess with Bonz mentally. If the game state was different he probably wouldn't have discarded all of his cards so readily. Bakura played in such a manner as to inflict the most terror upon Bonz, as long as there exists those 4 unknown cards we can't say if Bonz's misplay truly mattered or not.

[@Yojimbo16]

Funny, there was a scene in the anime where Bakura ate a steak that was cut out

[@jmurray1110]

It would be hard to introduce ED summoning sickness given how they design them Like imagine tenpai or ancient gear if you couldn’t attack after ED summoning

[@PrometheusD12]

I could be wrong, but I believe there is a situation where a revived fusion monster was able to attack the turn it was brought back in Battle City. I am pretty sure when Yugi duels the Exodia Rare Hunter, he revived Chimera, The Flying Mythical Beast which then attacked to leave the rare hunter open to an attack from Summoned Skull and Alpha, The Magnet Warrior.

[@numberhunter62]

It's monsters that are Fusion Summed can't attack the turn they're summoned, not Fusion Monsters in general.

[@PrometheusD12]

​​@@numberhunter62 That's what they were wondering in the video. At 28:25 on this video, TGS Anime was asking if there was a specific moment in the anime where a revived fusion monster was able to attack, so I was giving a moment where I believed it was an example of that happening.

[@NachtKaiser666]

I have to admit, my knowledge of YGO is kinda limited to the Abridged Series 😅

[@SuperMandibleclaw]

i'd love to hear you and TGS have a collab where you just shoot the shit about yu-gi-oh

[@KipReacts]

@@SuperMandibleclaw For as much as I talk about it, I really don't have as much experience as many others out there. My area has been incredibly limited in terms of players and now stores. I love discussing the game, but my knowledge has very hard limits.

[@fadeddragon123]

The “everything wrong with yugioh” series by Cvit cracks me up. Highly recommend lol

[@jmurray1110]

I wish we got sone retrains of bonz’s monsters he feels like he should be with weevil and Rex as a recurring stooge duelist with a lot of retrains and fits their decks by being a monotype deck Also we need more generic zombie support, don’t get me wrong it’s got sone powerful generic stuff already like unizombie and mezuki but it’s not as much as you would expect from how defined the zombie type feels because it’s so tied up in its archetypes in a way that feels off goven zombie might as well be a super archetype like insects or dinosaurs Serious though if you look at master duel you have very few decent effect monsters not tied to one if the 5 archetypes (eldlich, mayakaahi, shienui, skull servant and vendreads) and it’s sub archetypes like red eyes zombies, pharaohs, and plaguespreaders with the level 3 ghostricks only half counting Makes pure zombie world grass decks gear impossible unless you either include the ones that don’t lock you or tealament millers

[@IreneSinclair-uu4dz]

There is no way that Bones could win this duel if they both played their best. TGS forgot spells could activate on the opponents turn. Bakura destroys Crass Clown and when Bones attempts to attack with mammoth Bakura triggers his spell. The result of the turn is Bones has access to Skull invitation, Premature Burial, and Nightmare Steel Cage. He can survive Ectoplasm only if he doesn’t use Premature Burial to resummon his mammoth as a defense. But if Bakura also played appropriately he might still have Shallow Grave as a discard or activation meaning Bones will lose to Ectoplasm.

[@doubledamn2599]

If you'll pardon the pun, no matter how they dressed it up, Yugioh never really lost its bones of a horror manga. It might be lighter in tone, but every now and then you get something like this (or GX seasons 3&4) that shows that it never loses its origin.

[@doubledamn2599]

Actually, now that I think about it, you could make a similar argument for how the card game is treated in-universe. With how the Shadow Games were originally, even those that have never heard of the true origins or nature of Duel Monsters rarely, if ever treat it as 'just a game', you can see it in how they don't treat Life Points as a resource or the GY as a 'second deck' like we do in our world.

[@phonepup06]

Spoopy month is over now, but perhaps a reaction to his coverage of the recent Evil Hero support on the VOD channel?

[@KipReacts]

There's a short about some of the support over on that channel.

[@phonepup06]

I saw you made a short, but your reaction to his video could be cool too. But understand not wanting to cover things twice

[@fluffyandthebozos]

My favorite deck is the elemental charmers i love them there not the greatest but still my favorite

[@estebanramirez1178]

I really want you to check out Joey vs Weevil but it’s Modern Yu-Gi-Oh by RedMufflerMan. It’s stupidly genius.

[@ButterBeerChugger]

Sometimes you have to have your protagonist either be low skilled but gets better or at the absolute very least, have them lose their duels but they grow from there. It’s why I absolutely despise Yusei and Playmaker because they never lose their duels (and no, flashbacks don’t count. I’m talking on screen start to finish duels.) and because they never lose, not only do they never grow because their way of dueling never loses but their duels are just boring and stale. Why bother trying to build suspense when the possibility of losing isn’t even an option with them? Doesn’t help that both of them are so stale and uninteresting as characters

[@numberhunter62]

True for the most part, but the sole exception for Playmaker for me was at least the duel against AI. In this one scenario Playmaker would lose regardless of the duel's outcome.

[@jmurray1110]

Pot pot if desired isn’t a neg 8 It’s neg 9

[@gekikudo]

Do you play any other tcgs Kip? Bandai has been wringing me dry with the vast multitude of tcgs theyve been putting out

[@TheHeartlessAlchemist]

I gotta say, I have a lot more respect for Yubel players than Tenpai, or Trashtira, or tearlaments, or runik, or spright... But if you play any zombie archetype, hit me up.

[@chiefbawor_thegr8966]

Eldlich stun