Please watch the debate before making comments. Adnan Rashid & Samuel Green. Twynholm Baptist Church, London. October 27, 2018. Here is my booklet on the subject engagingwithisl...
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@MusikSarawak-zu3ic Жыл бұрын
Im a Buddhist and not on any party's side, but I find Adnan had made things clear.
@quranicverses.23944 ай бұрын
Thank you
@pakhor13994 жыл бұрын
To all Muslim brother..please have respect to Dr Samuel Green...at least he uploaded it and not edit the whole debate for us to watch and learn...
@saaem69004 жыл бұрын
Yes bro we most of us respecting him for that
@zubaer62984 жыл бұрын
Being Muslim i thank Samuel Green.
@r.m8034 жыл бұрын
We respect him so much. I wish all the christians were just as nice and respectful as him😊 The relationship btw adnan and samuel should be an example to all of us. I just wanna say that a muslim can not hate a christian if we follow the quran
@mahmoudkhalifa43094 жыл бұрын
We respect all Christians when debating with us cus Quraan told us to do so
@noufalmp95224 жыл бұрын
Respecting. Thanks
@ahmadnayeemkamal89233 жыл бұрын
I am a Muslim and would say that Mr. Samuel is an excellent speaker, however, still he could not clarify the topic here. On the other hand, Mr. Adnan's speech and statements were more clear and logical. My respect for both the speakers.
@nattycongo72362 жыл бұрын
You refuse to hear the truth
@ahmadnayeemkamal89232 жыл бұрын
@@nattycongo7236 did I ?
@analytics8947 Жыл бұрын
@@nattycongo7236 did he ??
@nattycongo7236 Жыл бұрын
@@analytics8947 Let me ask you again. Do you believe in the Bible? If you're seeking the truth, then we can talk if not it's a waste of time.
@ABN4154 жыл бұрын
Brothers and Sisters, the respected scholars have done their job perfectly, they put everything on the table. Now our job is to realise in free mind, listen our conscience carefully and act accordingly for the benefit in hereafter.
@maulinux111 ай бұрын
Absolutely nonsense. The debate is wrong and irrelevant. A faith is chosen by studying its sources and not by watching a debate.
@madni12165 жыл бұрын
Brilliant dialogue as well as brilliant chat.. very good to find people not abusing each other religion in reviews... so far.. 👍
@fjshjxsbbxvn92604 жыл бұрын
I am proud to become Muslim😌😌😌😌
@vivreserein851 Жыл бұрын
The question of the muslim brother at minute 1:24:00 just dedinitely ended the debate.
@HavenlyNnest Жыл бұрын
Yeah now you can have 4 wives 🤣
@gaipa2006 Жыл бұрын
You are proud to join falsehood, go and worship Stone. Stone worshipper, you will be going to hell. Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven. All other religions are false and will send you to hell.
@j2shoes288 Жыл бұрын
@@vivreserein851 yes, great call, poor Samuel didn't what to say.
@Asphaltq8293 ай бұрын
@@HavenlyNnest in Christianity ye forbidden from having 4 ? whaa bout prophet sulaiman
@BloodzOriginal4 жыл бұрын
Being a Muslim, I found that Samuel Green explains his point of view in a intellectually honest fashion. I think that Adnan Rashid had a lot of well-articulated arguments regarding the Bible
@mr.mister92745 жыл бұрын
Samuel, in his first opening statement, didn't refer to anything from the Bible to support his position. On the contrary, he went on to disprove the Quran's point of view. I think it would have been better if he had quoted from the Bible to affirm his position as a believer in the crucifixion. I, as a muslim, do respect him as a public speaker and scholar even if he misrepresents or misinterprets my scripture. Just because he has a different point of view, doesn't mean I disrespect him.
@ccreativghost81485 жыл бұрын
Jesus says.." .You Must not Test the Lord your GOD " what does this mean.......How could Jesus Answer with this Verse...IS HE GOD HIMSELF THAT SATAN CANNOT TEST HIM...... Yes....JESUS IS GOD.... If Jesus was just a messenger of God.....He cannot use this verse......." You must not Test the Lord your God "....why...it tells...NOT to TEST GOD not MAN or any messenger or any prophet.... See the Light of the Bible.....and Believe in Jesus, The God
@Logia19785 жыл бұрын
@@ccreativghost8148 But Satan tempted him... so he was no god at all...
@ccreativghost81485 жыл бұрын
@@Logia1978 Jesus was a human.....so Satan can tempt....and here in the Verse Jesus Replies.......YOU SHALL NOT TEMPT YOUR LORD GOD Was Jesus God not to be tempted......Jesus claimed HE WAS GOD so Satan cannot tempt him But here Jesus gained victory, he did not fall into his temptation while mohammad was tempted and he fell all the time, because he was just a man like u and me......satan can tempt us and win us easy while Jesus was not the same...but this is not my point though
@Logia19785 жыл бұрын
@@ccreativghost8148 Lol Exactly.. god can not be tempted... Thats why it was written that Jesus who is not god was tempted for 40 days by the devil... In this verse the devil was trying to tempt god to save Jesus as he promised in the old testament... and thats why Jesus replied you must not tempt god....
@ccreativghost81485 жыл бұрын
@@Logia1978 thats stupid....what u said......😄😄
@IslamTruth-kr8vo4 ай бұрын
I am proud to be a Muslim. Alhamdulilah for Islam.
@tashriquekarriem886525 күн бұрын
As a Muslim I must say the Christian Debater really raised some good points.
@its_kashmiri_7864 жыл бұрын
proud tO be Muslim Alhamdulillah 💗💗💗
@tipoftheicebergicy64484 жыл бұрын
I am equally proud to be Christian 👌
@Hamza000h3 жыл бұрын
@@tipoftheicebergicy6448 im muslim and i respect u as a christian. Peace friend
@tipoftheicebergicy64483 жыл бұрын
@@Hamza000h and through mutual respect and love we can move forward.
@m.m4999 Жыл бұрын
@@tipoftheicebergicy6448 very true ❤
@vivreserein851 Жыл бұрын
The question of the muslim brother at minute 1:24:00 just dedinitely ended the debate.
@florista528 Жыл бұрын
Both speakers are good but Adnan is so knowledgeable, and makes more sense totally
@faridasuleymanova72672 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr Samuel and Mr Adnan we appreciate your efforts.
@adam_lux46914 жыл бұрын
Samuel fell incredibly short especially trying to explain psalm 91. Which he didn’t. Just came across really manipulative.
@iamuzair914 жыл бұрын
Adam_lux rightly said..
@gaipa20064 жыл бұрын
Not really, he explained it quite well. Adnan Rashid would have more credibility if he provided references from the New Testament.
@thepreacherxi53536 ай бұрын
I am a Christian and Sam's material here makes me more convinced how Muslims misunderstood their Qur'an.
@abrahamdaud90164 жыл бұрын
Both had solid argument. Great debate Sir Samuel Green. Peace be with you!
@SamuelGreen-AU4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. All the best.
@SuperUmarfarooqi4 жыл бұрын
I want to see debate between Sir Samuel Green and Dr. Zakir Naik.
@duatasolo14124 жыл бұрын
@@SuperUmarfarooqi Zakir naik is a coward. He has been invited for a debate for the last 8 years. His excuse? He demands 10k crowd to accept even one of the countless invitations sent to him. He's a fugitive now associated with money laundering and crime.
@sayedallabakash7564 жыл бұрын
@@duatasolo1412 if he reject it it won't mean anything u said bcz u fails to do what he asked. And about crime, here in india peoples who hate him they just did this with only to stop him to preaching. Bcz they fear him, and they don't have any proof for it. just for telling may be u don't know some channels makes him as a leader of terrorists, again they don't have any proof. But they succeed to stop him. But now our PM realise his innocency and sent his people to ask him to come back to india. Naik put some demands to them. So we'll just waiting what happens next in future.
@mohammadtahmidimam3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperUmarfarooqi asalamualaikum brother could you plz tell me who win this debate?
@Shabaazkhaan5 жыл бұрын
hats of to these two gentlemen and the organisers for a beautiful discussion ------- with good equistics , very attentive audience and near perfect arrangements -- it was a pleasure hearing both speakers ! mr samuel green raised an entirely new interpretation to the death of jesus from the quranic perspective that had elluded the muslim scholars all these centuries -- that where allah says think not of the martyr and shaeeds as dead they are living but you see them not . jesus no doubt was a true martyr and a servant of god who died ( if he did die ) in the cause of allah and as such cannot be called dead in the quranic sense . thank you samuel -- you are a true scholar who is applying his mind without stereotypes and without bigotry. STILL I THINK THE TOPPING OF THE CAKE in THIS VERY LIVELY DEBATE , GOES TO THE QUESTION POSED TO SAMUEL NEAR THE VERY END --- AND WHICH SADLY MR GREEN SIDE STEPPED AND DID NOT FULLY ANSWER !!! SAMUEL AGREED THAT JESUS MADE THIS STATEMENT BEFORE THE LAST SUPPER , BEFORE HIS ARREST AND BEFORE HIS ALLEGED CRUCIFICATION . if according to jesus his mission had been accomplished -- COMPLETED -- FINISHED --- before the last super, and he calls god as his witness, , then what happened after the last super , after the arrest and the crucification ALL THAT WAS NOT THE MISSION OF JESUS !!!!! unfortunately the church and today's christians think the real mission of christ started at the time of crucification ------ FOR IT WAS AFTER JESUS SACRIFICED HIS LIFE ON THE CROSS THAT THE THE BELIEVERS IN CHRIST WERE REDEEMED , THEIR SINS WASHED AWAY , AND THAT BLOOD SACRIFICE ATTONING FOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD !!!!!!!! THIS QUESTION has innocently undermined the very foundations of the church inspired faith of the christian world . i am sure samuel will have been thinking of this question , later on , even though he did not answer it !
@maulinux14 жыл бұрын
Everything is done concerning his life before the resurrection. That is, Jesus is telling us that everything is accomplished relative to his earthly mission. With the Crucifixion and the resurrection, yes it goes on to a second phase. Mark 10 32-34, Matthew 20 17-19 In these verses Jesus announces his Crucifixion and resurrection. End of speech. Then of course you can believe what you want.
@silwantilugun7862 Жыл бұрын
Proud to be a Christian, praise the lord.
@nasiib2131 Жыл бұрын
Jesus did not teach people that he was God. If Jesus had been telling people that he was God, he would have complimented the man. Instead, Jesus rebuked him, denying he was good, that is, Jesus denied he was God. 4. The Bible Says that God is Greater than Jesus John 14:28 "My Father is greater than I." John 10:29 "My father is greater than all." Jesus can not be God if God is greater than him. The Christian belief that the Father and son are equal is in direct contrast to the clear words from Jesus. 5. Jesus Never Instructed His Disciples to Worship Himself or the Holy Ghost, but God and God Only Luke 11:2 "When you pray, say Our Father which art in heaven." John 16:23 "In that day, you shall ask me nothing. Whatsoever you ask of the Father in my name." John 4:23 "The hour cometh and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the Father seeketh such to worship him."
@ZiIIous Жыл бұрын
No salvation for you. Christians don't follow Jesus, and he doesn't want your praise.
@silwantilugun7862 Жыл бұрын
@@nasiib2131 Arey bhai tum Jesus ko God mano ya na mano koi christian ko koi fark ni padta, even Jesus ko b koi fark ni padta. Wo sada se hamare guru aur prabhu hain, usne to sirf chaha ki hum insan ek dusre ko pyar aur samman karte huye jindgi bataiye. Even Jesus ne dusman ko b pyar karne ko sikhaya. Bekar m Q tum apna khopdi fod rahe ho.
@NorMacalandong4 ай бұрын
Praise the Lord the God(Allah) off all prophets and messengers including jesus(isa)peace be upon him
@cheicknacamara6514 жыл бұрын
رَبَّنَا لَا تُزِغْ قُلُوبَنَا بَعْدَ إِذْ هَدَيْتَنَا وَهَبْ لَنَا مِن لَّدُنكَ رَحْمَةً إِنَّكَ أَنتَ الْوَهَّابُ (They say): "Our Lord! Let not our hearts deviate (from the truth) after You have guided us, and grant us mercy from You. Truly, You are the Bestower."
@stonezzrollerr54455 жыл бұрын
The Truth is from thy Lord,so be not at all in doubt.( QS Al Baqarah: 147) Verily We take upon Ourselves to guide.( QS Al LaiL : 12)
@sherifali36764 жыл бұрын
Stonezz Rollerr allah s wt!! told us jesusi was kilidi not he was crucified not but allah s wt!! raised him!!
@muhammadkhairulizat4 жыл бұрын
وَقَولِهِم إِنّا قَتَلنَا المَسيحَ عيسَى ابنَ مَريَمَ رَسولَ اللَّهِ وَما قَتَلوهُ وَما صَلَبوهُ وَلٰكِن شُبِّهَ لَهُم ۚ وَإِنَّ الَّذينَ اختَلَفوا فيهِ لَفى شَكٍّ مِنهُ ۚ ما لَهُم بِهِ مِن عِلمٍ إِلَّا اتِّباعَ الظَّنِّ ۚ وَما قَتَلوهُ يَقينًا (١٥٧) 157. And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
@user-fd9ph1jn1v4 жыл бұрын
solomon duncan Islam is the only religion that science agree with, every scientist even took a scientific points from the Quran and what they took from the Bible?! NOTHING!!!!! so in what did the Quran fail?! Oh it fails to guide ignorant people like you 🥰♥️♥️
Which lord are you referring to here? Who allows people to worship and kiss black stones so that their sins can be forgiven? If God never allowed the Jewish and Christians to practice idolatry why did he change his mind and allow Muslims to worship the black stones, venerate the sword of Muhammed including his hair which Muslims bow to and treat as holy yet Muhammad was not holy according to the way he lived his life a murderer, rapist, a bandit and a lier remember the treaty of hudaibya. If quran is the word of God how comes the sun sets in a muddy spring? If the quran is the word of God why are you taught to hate Jewish and Christians yet you try to say that we worship the same God
@shamimsarker62304 жыл бұрын
I am one of the Muslim subscribers..
@ihsannuruliman40054 жыл бұрын
I respect both speakers. Really great points from both sides. I hope truth always be with them and all of us. Ameen.
@Otakhilang77365 жыл бұрын
interesting debate. Congratulations to all involved in this debate. . Everyone has their own beliefs and views. Please respect each other and live in peace. . . Salam to all. . .♥️
@bilaal34885 жыл бұрын
Waalayk. Great message.
@nanajoplin47004 жыл бұрын
Well, I am afraid its matter of life & death. No 1 will the Lord (meaning God). Unless we are born again ( meaning spiritually). That is a very clear message & I didn't invented for I myself considered to be like every 1 a sinner
@davidomondi88194 жыл бұрын
Not when we point out the problems glaring ones of course like Alexander the great seeing the sun setting in water?
@nanajoplin47004 жыл бұрын
@@davidomondi8819 sorry what do you mean plz ?
@davidomondi88194 жыл бұрын
@@nanajoplin4700 just let me know which of my replies you are asking
@JohnnyDOUCHETUBE2 жыл бұрын
I think I am just as pleased with these comments as I am with the presentation of both speakers. Very calm and rational on all accounts.
@jaysean68135 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with Adnan, there are too many conjectures from the bible as Adnan pointed out in his intro. Adnan also rightfully pointed out that there are no eye witnesses to the crucifixion hence till this day, we cannot be 100% sure regardless of what modern historians say. If we follow through literal sense of the quran verse, no doubt that Adnan's comments were far superior but I saw surprised to hear this metaphorical sense of quran verse that Dr Samuel Green spoke of which made sense as to letting the quran interpret itself and Adnan did not touch those points most likely due to lack of time.
@carenbeat38215 жыл бұрын
The disciples after called the Apostles were witnesses there sying everything that took place, including his mother, marymadalen, marta, Lazarus who he resurrected, and Jesus brothers, they witnessed that all this took place in the Gospels of Jesus, no contradiction of the facts.
@tasaasadi38434 жыл бұрын
Adnan lied, there were numerous eye witnesses to the crucifixion of Jesus. Muhammed and his puppet allah deceived you.
@Ttcopp12rt4 жыл бұрын
Hello. I noticed there are many debates on the Crucifixion but all from a strict theological perspective..Would you consider engaging in a respectful debate on the Crucifixion from a Historical perspective? I think that will be unique and refreshing. I'd like to see if either of our views will change in light of any historical evidence... Please let me know your thoughts and feedback and if you accept my friendly challenge to you. Thank you!
@afolayanonesimus34092 жыл бұрын
Caren Beat it is deceitful to hold the belief that no eyewitness, the Roman army should be one, the mother of Jesus was looking at a distance. the ultimate view is that it only makes Allah a deceiver, who makes the crucifixion to appear to them so.
@ZiIIous Жыл бұрын
1:05:30 Adnan wins here without a doubt. Samuel misinterpreted the Quran when it clearly says "they crucified him not" he says "it means he was killed as martyr".
@AminaCuisine6924 жыл бұрын
Allahu akbar alhamdulilah,there are many people in this comments section that have Christian names but are actually muslims.Allahu Akbar alhamdulilah.
@gustavmahler14664 жыл бұрын
''I shall not die'' Psalm 118:17 KJV
@r.rahman12 Жыл бұрын
watched it 4 years ago. very good debate/discussion. adnan is a good debator. samuel green is a thorough gentleman.
@zaldssans74125 жыл бұрын
Muslims are divided on this topic. And this is the only topic that I would have to disagree with Brother Adnan, because sidelining Dr. Shabir Ally here is a very careless act. Dr. Shabir Ally has debated almost all famous, intelligent, and hard core christian debaters and atheists ever known on this very topic, and he's the reason, to be more spicific, his studies, research, arguments and logic on this very topic made me change my view about the truth on the real account of the alleged crucifixion.
@MrSamsunder5 жыл бұрын
When compared to other Moslem Debaters Adnan sir is polite and humble... Samuel Green sir is sticking to the point... Bullseye
@imposter-9825 жыл бұрын
Bullseye and still lost.
@theseeker4308 Жыл бұрын
May Allah give guidance to brother samuel green
@muhajir84694 жыл бұрын
I honestly can't believe no one brought up the "Sign of Jonah" prophecy and that it wasn't fulfilled: 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the earth when the Bible only shows 2 nights and 1 day
@davidomondi88194 жыл бұрын
These are the scripture twisting that Muslims are quoting to try and make the death of Jesus as a thing that did not happen. But even atheists and historians agree that it happened. Secondly know that the Bible is not read as you read the quran ie one verse is complete in a chapter and can give the meaning
@muhajir84694 жыл бұрын
It doesn't explain the contradictions found in it. It's not scripture twisting like Christians do with the Bible to provide something that isn't there. Also, I've seen where many Atheists don't even think the Messiah (whose name wasn't Jesus) never existed, nor Muhammad for that Matt (peace be upon them both). We simply say he wasn't crucified or killed and Adnan presented a strong case.
@muhajir84694 жыл бұрын
*nor Muhammad for that matter
@davidomondi88194 жыл бұрын
@@muhajir8469 which strong case did Adnan made here than jumping from one place to another? By the way do you know that we do not believe that Qur'an is the word of the living God but Allah who had three daughters and was being worshipped before even the Arabian caravan robber and hallucinator came into the picture. Muslims are worshipping Muhammad who could not stop black magic and the prophet who never had a prophecy but heretical teachings. He wanted to commit suicide after the death of waraqa because none could read for him stories which he could tell people that JIBRIL visited him. They could not differentiate the angel and the living God who appeared to Moses. Last but not least I just want one statement that shows that Muhammad was a prophet of the living God and I will be a Muslim immediately and declare the shaada not Allah but the living God
@davidomondi88194 жыл бұрын
@Amar Sahbi we know that quran was plagiarized and the living God can not give revelations from other sources so your so called "revelations" are human works and not inspired as you try to make it look. Remember that when you read quran carefully Muhammad in sura 2:136 & 285 says very well that God does not discriminate his own prophets yet in the shaada he is the only prophet, have you asked yourself why not other prophet mentioned in the shaada but only the pedophile
@theholyfireministry3755 жыл бұрын
You obviously do not understand the crucifixion because you are spiritually discerned the Lord Jesus crucified is the key to our redemption salvation and freedom from sin and it reconciled us back to God and we are very close to again and now God walks with us because of the crucifixion hallelujah glory be to our Lord Jesus Christ amen
@naemadiriye78094 жыл бұрын
God dying is not justice how can a god die ???? Absolute no sense
@belgesgear96555 жыл бұрын
Nobody can be guided if Almighty God Allah didn't guide him
@sherifali36764 жыл бұрын
Belges Gear exactly!!! 100 pericent!! but u have to tell the truth and false things allAh s wt!! commAnd us to make daewa
@belgesgear96554 жыл бұрын
@@sherifali3676 correct sir, we need to pray/dua (ask for) to Almighty GOD to guide the rigth path to us if we wish to find the right path for our soul
@mukrimhabeeb4 жыл бұрын
Kudos to Samuel Green for trying his best to interpret the Qur'an verse which states that Jesus not being killed & raised upto God as being similar to the death of the martyr. However, the Qur'an categorically states that Jesus was neither CRUCFIED nor KILLED. He conveniently leaves out the Not Crucified part of the Qur'an and starts quoting Scholars, Christian & Muslims
@SamuelGreen-AU4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comments and engaging with the issue, but the Qur'an never "categorically states that Jesus was neither CRUCFIED nor KILLED". There is no verse in the Qur'an that says "Jesus did not die". What is says is THEY DID NOT kill or crucify him. This is the same type of description as when the Qur'an denies that the jihadists killed Muhammad's enemies: "You did not kill them. God killed them." (Qur’ans, 8:17) According to the Qur'an, only Allah gives and takes life. The Qur'an claims to reveal the unseen, and so the Qur'an is not denying the historical death of Jesus any more than it is denying the historical death of those the jihadist killed in 8:17.
@shabcaanahmed1404 жыл бұрын
But I don't know why Brother Adnan can't defend the comparison between crusifiction and mujaahidiin deth
@travelandlearn59614 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelGreen-AU وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ "And they neither killed him nor crucified him" An-Nisaa verse 157. Crucifixion and the killing of Jesus are categorically denied by the Quran.
@ryan639704 жыл бұрын
The New Testament- the word of god The Quran- the word of satan
@asharsiddiqi70783 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelGreen-AU thanks for the wonderful debate. Your efforts were highly commendable. Such debates are essential part of bringing people together under one roof. Having said that I would like to express myself by saying that no where in entire Qur'an you will find the word "martyrdom" or "Jesus being martyred" where crucifixion is discussed in Qur'an. You are connecting or assuming something that is not there in the first place. Quran is simply saying "They killed him not" ... By "they" it simply means Jews and the Romans who thought that they killed Jesus for sure. For God, it would've been easier to make such an unambiguous statement like "They killed him not... Jesus was martyred raised to heaven and shall return to you one day" ... Or God could have simply said something like... "Martyres never die so is Jesus" ... But this is not the case ... The concept of Jesus's crucifixion and the concept of martyrdom are two very different concepts in Islam .., if the word is not there then you must not assume. I enjoyed the debate though!
@jame52954 жыл бұрын
Samue knows perfectly that he is laying to himself and to other people... He knows perfectly the truth but he don't want to show the truth to people.
@patrickfisher28175 жыл бұрын
In terms of historical data the evidence is clearly on Dr. Green's side. However, I do have to agree Rashid's opening statement was strong drawing attention to the supposed contradictions. Nevertheless, I am convinced that they can be resolved.
@Mukeet-Khan5 жыл бұрын
Oxymorons can NEVER be reconciled my friend. A contradiction in terms like the Hypostatic Union (Jesus being 100% God and 100% Man) is like saying a Man is 100% Good and 100% Evil. Or that a Married Bachelor can exist. Or a Square Circle is possible. No sir. It is Impossible, past, present and Future. The Messiah was SAVED as prophesied in Pslam 20:6. And he shall see his seed (he will have physical children) according to Isaiah 53.
@patrickfisher28175 жыл бұрын
@@Mukeet-Khan I'm pretty sure in Isaiah 53 he was referring to the Messiah's followers. And as I said, I'm not convinced they're contradictions I used the word "supposed" for a reason. You claimed that oxymorons couldn't be resolved in reference to the Hypostatic Union and the idea of a crucified Messiah. Yet in one of the very passages you cited, Isaiah 53, refers to just that. You claimed that Jesus being God and man was a contradiction like being a square circle. However, it is the best explanation of the biblical data. Moreover, Philippians 2 refers to Jesus as Lord and him taking on the nature of a servant. Thus it seems that incranation theology is the best way to explanation is dicotomy.
@johnpereira97555 жыл бұрын
Patrick Fisher: There is no contradiction as far as the fact of Jesus' crucifixion is concerned. There are only inconsistencies about collateral details. That is because the narrative came from 4 different authors who were inspired by God to write but did not receive verbatim dictation from Him, contrary to what Adnan tried to project and mislead the audience.
@tameraly2680 Жыл бұрын
@@johnpereira9755 the word of God must not have any contradictions nor inconsistency... only stories written by men may have that...
@johnpereira9755 Жыл бұрын
@@tameraly2680 Christians believe the Bible is the word of God in the sense He inspired the author to write it but did not dictate the verses verbatim. The author used his own literary skills and the scientific knowledge of the world around him to impart religious, moral and ethical values. So, the inconsistencies and other human errors in the Bible is not an issue for us Christians because such inconsistencies and human errors do not have any bearing on the core Christian beliefs and practices. There are inconsistencies in the Quran too. For example, one verse advices Muslims, " Do not insult those who invoke other that Allah, lest they insult Allah in enmity, without knowledge". But another verse insults Jews, Christians and Polytheists as " Worst of Creatures". However, I am not saying this inconsistency has any bearing on the core teaching of Islam based salat, sawm, zakat.
@elysabactaniАй бұрын
قَالَ ٱللَّهُ یَـٰعِیسَىٰۤ إِنِّی مُتَوَفِّیكَ وَرَافِعُكَ إِلَیَّ وَمُطَهِّرُكَ مِنَ ٱلَّذِینَ كَفَرُوا۟ وَجَاعِلُ ٱلَّذِینَ ٱتَّبَعُوكَ فَوۡقَ ٱلَّذِینَ كَفَرُوۤا۟ إِلَىٰ یَوۡمِ ٱلۡقِیَـٰمَةِۖ ثُمَّ إِلَیَّ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ فَأَحۡكُمُ بَیۡنَكُمۡ فِیمَا كُنتُمۡ فِیهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ ( 3:55) Allah said, "Jesus, I will cause you to die and raise you up to me, and purify you from those who denied the truth, and I will exalt your followers over those who deny you until the Resurrection Day. Then you all will return to me, and I will judge between you in matters about which you disagree. In this verse Allah's caused Jesus to die and purify him from those who denied the truth ,it is refers to his crucifixion, which caused his death, At the height of his ministry and miracles, many Jews came to believe in Jesus as the Messiah, Jewish rabbi's feared Jesus because of his growing followers. With the help of Judas Iscariot, Roman soldiers arrested Jesus, and He was put on trial for claiming to be the king of the Jews. According to Roman law, the punishment for rebellion against the king was death by crucifixion.The Roman governor Pontius Pilate was reluctant regarding the punishment for Jesus. Pilate could find no wrong in Jesus, yet he wanted to give the people what they wanted, and that was the death of Jesus. Pilate washed his hands in front of the crowd to symbolize that he was not taking responsibility for the bloodshed of Jesus and then handed Jesus over to be beaten and lashed. The Prophet mention about a prophet saying "Umar ibn Hafs narrated to us, my father narrated to us, Al-A’mash narrated to us, he said: Shaqiq narrated to me, he said: Abdullah said: It is as if I am looking at the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, narrating the story of a prophet from among the prophets whose people beat him until he bled, and he was wiping the blood from his face and saying: O Lord, forgive my people, for they do not know. حَدَّثَنَا عُمَرُ بْنُ حَفْصٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبِي، حَدَّثَنَا الأَعْمَشُ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي شَقِيقٌ، قَالَ قَالَ عَبْدُ اللَّهِ كَأَنِّي أَنْظُرُ إِلَى النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَحْكِي نَبِيًّا مِنَ الأَنْبِيَاءِ ضَرَبَهُ قَوْمُهُ فَأَدْمَوْهُ، فَهْوَ يَمْسَحُ الدَّمَ عَنْ وَجْهِهِ وَيَقُولُ رَبِّ اغْفِرْ لِقَوْمِي، فَإِنَّهُمْ لاَ يَعْلَمُونَ The Prophet of Allah is referring to the prophet Jesus whom they beat until they nailed him to the cross. ------ (Tafsir al Nafi - Tafsir Wamaenaa Al- Quran AlKarim ,On Surah 3 ,Ayat 55 ,By Shaykh Nafi ibn Abdullah , Basra Iraq -1975)
@abdoulniamadio414 Жыл бұрын
Despite mr. Samuel knowing how to read and write Arabic language he translated the Quran on his own way to understand English language. The reason why is that he doesn't mention any of the top 10 Islamic scholars as evidence of what he quote from the Quran.
@smartrecords48815 жыл бұрын
But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 1 Corinthians:1:23
@TechieBunny4 жыл бұрын
@Tony G Can you explain this? Was just curious? Not sure I understand what the verse is supposed to mean or its context. (I know, I can google it but I don't feel like it).
@moseskristianto19534 жыл бұрын
@@TechieBunny The Jews expect a Messiah who would delivered them from the Roman occupation and reestablished the worldly Kingdom of Israel as it was in the era of King David where the 12 Tribes were still united. In the beginning they thought that Jesus would fulfiled the promise. If you read the Gospel you will find how the Jews welcome him when Jesus entered Jerusalem. They shouted cheerfully, "Hosana! Blessed is that comes in the Name of The LORD." But It was not the aim of The LORD to establish a worldly Kingdom. Jesus said,"My Kingdom is not of this world." His Kingdom beyond this world. Their expectation was wrong. The LORD promised not that kind of worldly Kingdom. Jesus Christ failed to meet the criteriae of their expected Messiah. Even though, in fact Jesus Christ fulfiled all Biblical prophecies about the coming of Messiah. Until this day The Jews still wait for their "Messiah" who will reestablish the worldly Kingdom of Israel. The problem is the Jews refuse the True Messiah (Jesus Christ). They can not imagine that The Messiah should be suffering and crucifed . They neglect the prophecy in Genesis 3:15, Psalm 22, Isaiah 53.
@TechieBunny4 жыл бұрын
@@moseskristianto1953 Lol. I agree with you here. Not sure what's your question. As a Muslim, we believe the same. The difference is in the areas in the New Testament where it contradicts the rest of the Scriptures in the Bible and in the Quran. Most Jews dont believe Christ is the Messiah not because of his kingdom he promised but because according to Christians, he was murdered and sacrificed. Muslims dont believe Jesus died either, God raised him back to return for the Anti-Christ. The Bible only disagrees with our scripture only when it contradicts itself. The message was and is always the same. One God.
@ashhadkalam89952 ай бұрын
Paul preaches so many things which was quite opposite of what Jesus was preaching
@go666el5 жыл бұрын
Since he asked to Ahmad Deedat along ago till now, he still doesn't reliaze his misunderstanding about his bibble. What the heck! 😅😅😅 What have you studied about Islam from along ago till now, Sam? 😂😂😂
@royalbonton5524 жыл бұрын
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@kyleauthman3 ай бұрын
His Insincerity is stopping him
@abdullahaljalil5454 жыл бұрын
Man O Man Die is different than kill When we sleep we die, just like sleep is the cousin of death So the word used with Jesus is "kill" and the word used while we sleep is "die"
@davidomondi88194 жыл бұрын
Since Quran has satanic verses there is little truth about it. The truth about the quran is that it's Muhammad's idea that could not go far beyond Arabia unless the sword was added to it
@Ibrahim-nf6yh4 жыл бұрын
David Omondi Read the history about how both christianity/ Islam spread and for your information muhammed pbh couldnt read or write and he is only mentioned 4X by name in the quran? THINK ABOUT THAT BROTHER
@davidomondi88194 жыл бұрын
@@Ibrahim-nf6yh which history are you referring to here that I should read? Are Muslims sincere when they don't have a clear position on anything. Sura 9:29 which is asking Muslims to fight and subjugate non Muslims is translated by every Muslim scloar differently. Allah was a serbian God of the moon yet you Muslims are aware of the same but keep on fabling on the same point. Muhammad was not a prophet going by what I know as the definition of a prophet. 1 no prophet is given the luxury of convinience revelations a) Muhammad could marry as many wives as he wanted yet the rest are to marry upto four wives b) Muhammad took the wife of his adopted son after lusting after her when there was a backlash a revelation came to bail him out c) when Muhammad wanted to chase people from his home due to annoyance he used the name of allah to do so there are so many issues with the self declared prophet cum caravan robber a rapist and murderer so I think it you who is supposed to be reading history of the sex pest turned fake prophet who never had a single prophecy. His name appearing in the quran 4x that is not our business we do not believe that quran is the word of God but creation of an illiterate bandit period. Can please give any lesson from Muhammad that has relevance in the 21st century, just one lesson please don't go into so much just one lesson
@davidomondi88194 жыл бұрын
Why can't Muslims have a common answer instead of the flip flops which are so many in the quran
@davidomondi88194 жыл бұрын
A church in Germany allows Muslim to pray in their church. That's not the issue my concern and the big question is that can Muslims in Saudi Arabia, Jordan or Yemen allow Christians to worship in their mosques I need an answer because you are unable to answer all my questions
@canpak58554 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comments and engaging with the issue, but the Qur'an never "categorically states that Jesus was neither CRUCFIED nor KILLED". These are samuel greens words. Now the funny thing is he says nowhere in the quran it said jesus was neither crucified or killed but you can clearly see in the Quran chapter 4 verse 157 where it says clearly "And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain".
@ashrafaljaradat78925 жыл бұрын
Samuel tried his best to prove that Jesus died which proves that Jesus is not a god because it is mentioned in the bible that God does not die. If you say that Jesus died as a man not as a god then the redemption was not achieved. In both cases, the Christianity is false.
@SuperUmarfarooqi4 жыл бұрын
Well done Mr. Adnan Rashid but there is no match of Dr. Zakir Naik.
@MrSamsunder5 жыл бұрын
Best Debate ever watched... Love You Both... Respect and Love from India No laughing No clappings to mock... I love Samuel Green sir for his calmness but for the first time it is a Moslem debater who maintained calmness
@peaceout66675 жыл бұрын
Dr.Shyam Sunder MDS first time you say, somone with a title as a doctor should stay neutral but its clear u took the Christian position simply because u have a inate hatred for muslims assuming that u have a indian name
@നേരിന്റെപക്ഷം-ധ5ള5 жыл бұрын
LAST SERMON OF HOLY PROPHET MOHAMMAD(SAW).* *THIS SERMON WAS DELIVERED ON THE NINTH DAY OF DHUL-HIJJAH 10 AD IN THE URANAH VALLEY OF MOUNT ARRAFAT* *"O people, lend me an attentive ear, for I know not whether, after this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what I am saying to you very carefully and TAKE THESE TO THOSE WHO COULD NOT BE PRESENT HERE TODAY.* *O people, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as sacred, so regard the life and property of every muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your lord and that He will indeed reckon your deeds. ALLAH has forbidden you to take usury (interest). Therefore all interst obligation shall henceforth be waived.* *Beware of Satan, for the safety of your religion. He has lost all hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in things, so beware of following him in small things.* *O people, it is true that you have the right with regards to your woman, but they also have rights over you. If they abide by your rights then to them belong the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it approve, as well as never commit adultery.* *O people, listen to me in earnest, worship ALLAH, say your five time daily prayers (salat) fast during the month of ramadan, and give your wealth in zakat. Perform Hajj if you can afford to. You know that every muslim is the brother of another muslim. YOU ARE ALL EQUAL.. No body has superiority over another except by piety and good action.* *Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer for your deeds. O beware, do not stray from the part of righteousness after I am gone.* *O people, NO PROPHET OR APOSTLE WILL COME AFTER ME AND NO NEW FAITH WILL BE BORN. Reason well, therefore people, understand my word, which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the QURAN and my SUNNAH and if you follow these you will not go astray.* *All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again, and may the last understand my words better than those who listen to me directly. Be my witness O ALLAH, that I have convyed your message to your people"*..♥️♥️♥️
@zakirnaikahmaddeedat36515 жыл бұрын
Allahu Akbar
@warriorofgod95325 жыл бұрын
I leave one thing behind, the Quran. ( not sunnah sorry )
@ccreativghost81485 жыл бұрын
esus says.." .You Must not Test the Lord your GOD " what does this mean.......How could Jesus Answer with this Verse...IS HE GOD HIMSELF THAT SATAN CANNOT TEST HIM...... Yes....JESUS IS GOD.... If Jesus was just a messenger of God.....He cannot use this verse......." You must not Test the Lord your God "....why...it tells...NOT to TEST GOD not MAN or any messenger or any prophet.... See the Light of the Bible.....and Believe in Jesus, The God
@ZiIIous Жыл бұрын
Come on, Samuel, can't you see that Christianity is full of flaws ?! Save yourself before the old age overtake you. May Allah guide you.
@realamg1233 жыл бұрын
I would like to ask the Christians Jews and Atheists; Are you more knowledgeable in the Christians faith than all the Priests and church members in addition to the Jewish Rabbis who reverted to Islam over the years since the time of Mohammed PBUH? And more intellectual than all the professors and scientists who discovered the miracles of Quran and became Muslims?!
@nafihahmd4 жыл бұрын
The last questioner was very spooky. She should have asked the question to Adnan instead of Samuel. May be a paid querier?!!
@ramayankumar61444 жыл бұрын
*Praise the Lord.* 🙏
@ramayankumar61444 жыл бұрын
@abubakar abdulahi There is only one Lord *YAHWEH* the God almighty 🙏
@mustafaahmed58344 жыл бұрын
Alhamdulilla hi rabbi aalmin
@katicaribic30514 жыл бұрын
Jesus is the Lord .
@amannegash47834 жыл бұрын
@katica ribic Remember Jesus shouted on the cross: Elah Elah Lama Sabachthani? Which means: My God My God why thou forsaken Me? Now, Elah is an Aramaic word which means God, so The word Father, Abba, Yahweh, Jehovah, Yeshua or Even God, is not Fitting in the Words of Jesus.
@rashidmir55464 жыл бұрын
Brother Adnan, May God bless u and give u a long and healthy life. U were excellent and u proved that Jesus was not crucified. Truth stands clear from Error.
@mfrmfr055 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr Green for a brilliant explanation from the Quran about sleep and death
@lameeshaya79904 жыл бұрын
What’s wrong
@khaledsadek68164 жыл бұрын
Fazal Rahman , What explanation you talk about ,R u waiting explanation of Quran from misguided source or u r misguided as well ?
@Fkk5804 жыл бұрын
No offense to you sir Green but how can someone as intelligent as you not see the mercy of Islam and its truthfulness.
@SamuelGreen-AU4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your question. I base what I believe on all the prophets. I read all of the prophets. The Bible is not one book but many books from many prophets: from Moses to Jesus. The Qur'an is just man one telling you what to believe about the prophets. If you say you believe all the prophets then you should read them and not have one man tell you what to believe.
@fatimaceesay92742 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelGreen-AU The Quran is the word of God (Allah) and God is one God. It is God telling you what to believe not Muhammed upon whom be peace.
@shabcaanahmed1404 жыл бұрын
The Quran confirms that the mujahid killed practicaly by saying( You must not think that those who were killed in the way of Allah are dead. But rather, they are alive with their Lord and have been provided for )3:169. But in the case of jesus Quran has never use the word killed
@imposter-9825 жыл бұрын
Another very clear contradiction: In short: Samuel quoted The Holy Quran saying that Jesus (peace be upon him) wasn't crucified, yet Samuel interpreted it [incorrectly] that he was and falsely claims that all Muslims agree with this! In detail: Samuel quoted The Holy Quran many times where Allah clearly said that Jesus (peace be upon him) was not crucified (4:157, The Holy Quran) but Samuel insisted that Jesus (peace be upon him) was, and falsely claimed that we Muslims are in agreement with this! Unfortunately Samuel calimed so after misinterpreting The Holy Quran (which I think Adnan lightly touched on) despite Samuel's claiming that his interpretation is from The Holy Quran itself. (يَا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ لِمَ تَلْبِسُونَ الْحَقَّ بِالْبَاطِلِ وَتَكْتُمُونَ الْحَقَّ وَأَنتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ) [ آل عمران آية: 71 ] O People of the Scripture, why do you mix [i.e. confuse] the truth with falsehood and conceal the truth while you know [it]? (3:71, The Holy Quran) If the Holy Quran clearly says that Jesus (peace be upon him) wasn't crucified, then how can one twist its clear-as-day meaning (and from within it) to say that the crucifixion happened?! It's a clear contradiction, but unfortunately I fear it's easy for someone to not to see that if they've live a long life accustomed to it being a norm and found no way to escape from it. If your boss asks for a report, are you gonna give him a stapler? Similarly, Allah Almighty said Jesus (peace be upon him) wasn't crucified, are you going to say the meaning is that he was? Like Da'iah Deedat said: do you understand English?!. .
@robynwright5205 жыл бұрын
So are you saying Allah deceived the Christians into believing Christ was Crucified One thing is for sure....Either way Jesus is alive. He will return to Judge. Quran says he will destroy the Antichrist. .. WHY NOT MOHAMMED Who holds Authority here? Why do you Praise a Dead Man What I understand is...Allah Lied and deceived. ...Why would you worship a liar...☺
@jjj-fm8ye5 жыл бұрын
U know do some research on this all the historians say Christ was crucified like Romans jews Greek except for kuran .....
@Logia19785 жыл бұрын
@@robynwright520 If Allah decieved mullions of people, because mankind can lie... then: Your god decieved millions of people by not telling them he was a trinity in the old testament and no one knew what the trinity is... This is how weak low level argument come to your face.
@Logia19784 жыл бұрын
@Don Hemond Thats the problem with ignorant bigots...they have no idea what they are talking about and repeat like perrots.... AHAD AND TOHID come from the same root word in arabic... We dont even need the word Tohid... We just have to use the Quranic word to reject trinity and any polytheistic concept of god. Ghul hu w Allahu Ahad in the Quran... Say god is one and unique... Thats enough... Now show me the 3 in 1 in your bible... I dont want the word trinity.. I already know its not in the Bible... the concept of trinity is not even in the bible... This is why its a waste of time to debate with people who are ignorant or dishonest.... Dont wast my time with the word Makr you have no idea of its meaning.... When you give me its meaning from authoritative classic arabic lexicon like lissan al Arab or Edward lain lexicon, ill take you seriously... until then you are just another brainwashed dishonest christian.... thats all...
@Logia19784 жыл бұрын
@Don Hemond You are the ignorant... I am not going to copy past stupidities like yours... There is no trinity in Genesis... the concept the son is not even there....there is no multiple persons there... in the jewish understanding the spirit of god is another way of calling the same god...thats why no jewish prophet dare to teach a multipersonal concept of god. And until you give your definitions of arabic words from classical arabic lexicons, everything you say is bullshit... The person you quoted never read that god in the quran is unipersonal? HE IS ONE OF sure ... but has no father or child... God is not three or multiple persons in the Quran...stop say three is in the quran... you must like him have missed reading it.... what a waste of time...
@ChristianPrince25 жыл бұрын
watch my video about this Adanan and try not to laugh at Muhammadans logic and fabrication
@jandysagisi45635 жыл бұрын
The Arabian Prophet I always watch your video CP! You made me laugh every time.. muslims are proven cult and liar!
@mygodis72435 жыл бұрын
muslim: who is god?? christian:jesus muslim:is jesus the son of mary?? christian:yes muslim:who created mary?? christian: God muslim:who is God?? christian:jesus muslim:is jesus the begotten son? christian:yes muslim:who is the father ?? christian:God muslim:who is God? christian:jesus muslim:jesus is a servant of God?? christian:yes muslim:jesus died on the cross?? christian:yes muslim:is jesus a messenger?? christian:yes muslim:who sent him?? christian:God muslim:who is God?? christian:jesus muslim:did jesus worship while on earth? christian:yes muslim:whom did he worship?? christian:God muslim:who is God?? christian:jesus muslim:did God have a beginning? christian:no muslim:then who was born 25/dec? christian:jesus muslim:is jesus God?? christian:yes muslim:where's God?? christian:in heaven muslim:how many Gods are there in heaven?? christian:only one God muslim:where's jesus christian:he is seated on the right hand of his father muslim:then how many are they in heaven?? christian:only one God muslim:then how many seats? christian:one muslim:where's jesus?? christian:seated next to God muslim:how are they seated on one chair? christian:it's only understood those with the Ghost.you need Ghost my freind bible says:...God is not the author of confusion"...(corinthians 14:33)? this show how confused christians are,and it also show that they don't even know who god realy is,if you wanna know the answer then do some research on #islam
@amuthi15 жыл бұрын
@ jddjjdj iffjjfi Seemingly yout have some problems to stick to the topic!
@jollypilgrim19315 жыл бұрын
Typical of your kind of Muslims. You deform or misrepresent a fact then criticise the misrepresentation. Very pathetic And cheap way to present argument.
@mohammadalmoudab68525 жыл бұрын
This is insane 😣
@kallmaxi43805 жыл бұрын
To be honest it’s very confusing 🤦🏽♂️
@tashriquekarriem886525 күн бұрын
@@jollypilgrim1931on behalf of all Muslims I say sorry, but truth is truth and logic is logic.
@imsamiurrahman3 жыл бұрын
These verses clearly proves that Jesus wasn't crucified 1 Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.[a] 2 I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust.” 3 Surely he will save you from the fowler’s snare and from the deadly pestilence. 4 He will cover you with his feathers, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart. 5 You will not fear the terror of night, nor the arrow that flies by day, 6 nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness, nor the plague that destroys at midday. 7 A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, but it will not come near you. 8 You will only observe with your eyes and see the punishment of the wicked. 9 If you say, “The Lord is my refuge,” and you make the Most High your dwelling, 10 no harm will overtake you, no disaster will come near your tent. 11 For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways; 12 they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone. 13 You will tread on the lion and the cobra; you will trample the great lion and the serpent. 14 “Because he[b] loves me,” says the Lord, “I will rescue him; I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name. 15 He will call on me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble, I will deliver him and honor him. 16 With long life I will satisfy him and show him my salvation.” - Psalm 91:10-16 Psalm 91 clearly proves that Jesus wasn't crucified. Read the verses carefully. It says you'll see the punishment of the wicked. No harm will overtake you. God will command the angels to guard you and they'll lift you up with their hands. God said, "I will rescue him, I will protect him." And the Holy Qur'an says, "That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- No indeed, Allah raised him up to Him; and Allah has been Ever-Mighty, Ever-Wise." - Surah An-Nisa(النساء) 4:157-158 Bible says, you'll see the punishment of the wicked. No harm will overtake you. God will command the angels to guard you and they'll lift you up with their hands and the Holy Qur'an says, they neither killed him nor crucified him. It was made to appear to them. Allah raised him up to him. Lift you up, raised him up. Did you get that? Jesus Christ (pbuh) wasn't crucified. It was made to appear to them so that they would think that Jesus Christ (pbuh) was crucified and Bible also says, you'll see the punishment of the wicked so it's clear that it was the wicked one who was crucified.
@SamuelGreen-AU3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment but please read the books you are referring to. Regarding Psalm 91. Psalm 91 certainly does promise God’s protection to the servant of God; and this is the relationship the Messiah has with God the father. However, we must read all of the Psalms and not just one. Psalm 22 is one of the most famous Messianic Psalms, and it says, My strength is dried up like a potsherd, and my tongue sticks to the roof of my mouth; you lay me in the dust of death. Dogs have surrounded me; a band of evil men has encircled me, they have pierced my hands and my feet. I can count all my bones; people stare and gloat over me. They divide my garments among them and cast lots for my clothing. (Psalm 22:15-18) Psalm 22 says that the Messiah will suffer and be laid “in the dust of death”; and it describes the crucifixion very accurately. So how can the protected Messiah be the Messiah who suffers this way? The answer is that when the Messiah comes he does not come for himself, instead, he comes to save God’s people, and he does this by voluntarily laying aside his protection for the sake of others. We see this perfectly in the life of Jesus: He had the protection of Psalm 91 when he was a child (Matthew 2:13, 2:19); and the care of Psalm 91 after his temptation in the desert (Matthew 4:11); but he voluntarily laid this aside as he offered himself on the cross in fulfilment of Psalm 22. Do you think I [Jesus] cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels? But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen in this way?" (Matthew 26:53-54) The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life - only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. (John 10:17-18) Regarding the Qur'an 4:157-158. These verses say that it appeared to the Jews that they crucified and killed Jesus but they did not. The verses do not say that it appeared the same way to the disciples and Romans. YOu are reading into it to say it did. Qur'an 3:55 and 5:117 say that Allah took Jesus in death. Please read my booklet on this in the description box.
@taringtapok1272 жыл бұрын
Plz plz help me to find, who is the correct religion,I believe God is only one,muslim is correct voice of God or Bible is correct voice of God??.. Plz help me... I hv no religion iam searching for geniun one... So totally I confused.....i,am from 🇮🇳india...
@damansandy30652 жыл бұрын
Hi Taring.. I'm just a regular guy. But hopefully this is gonna help you little bit.. First of all, I'm *glad* you really want to take up faith - to find one TRUE God which is the only ONE Almighty and *what God want to tell you in the divine revelation.* To answers those the most important questions in life. (a) Where we are from? (b) What we are doing what our purpose here? (c) Where we are gonna go (after life)? If you're already acknowledged sincerely in your mind that there is a God/Creator that is good first step. Thats the most important. The next step is to find which *REVELATION* or known as God's word that is *correct* which in line with what other prophets brought that came before us. Since you're from India🇮🇳.. I got really great link about this *VERY TOPIC* about those many THOUSANDS of religions to compare it. Which one out of those religions has the most similar basic *MESSAGE OF GOD ALMIGHTY.* kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2WulomuoLaBbNE Click that link and study it. Bonus : kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZSVdqyOp8R6Y5o kzbin.info/www/bejne/apCVi6iGnbN6h6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIicmmyuqa-ah9U kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKrQnadtd5mYd5o kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYirnpejp8inpZo May God help you.. Good luck.
@maulinux1 Жыл бұрын
You must search and you must first study. Leave the prejudices and study every faith you can find through the texts of that faith. Don't listen to those who attack other people's faiths because theirs behavior already shows you the way not to follow.
@NorMacalandong4 ай бұрын
Study with your own 😊read the quran and study islam and read bible too and follow your heart ❤️
@faizal94335 жыл бұрын
Islam always win. Never defeat
@faizal94335 жыл бұрын
@Jun Jesus will come and says to you all christians. Depart from me. U are evildoers...so? Who the truth? Jesus or u? 😂😂
@tasaasadi38434 жыл бұрын
Mr. Green won this debate by far.
@dhomwan15 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Adnan
@hambarabbani32955 жыл бұрын
i have feelings,, one day Samuel green will be enter to Muslim iswear by allah swt.
@hambarabbani32955 жыл бұрын
@@muhammadpedofilpbuh5250 whoever insults Allah and his prophets, one day he will be rewarded in kind in the world and in the hereafter, bear in mind these words. allah is the greatest ❤️🙏
@hambarabbani32955 жыл бұрын
@@muhammadpedofilpbuh5250 The Bible has deceived you, all the contents in the fake bible. and the world proves, intelligent and healthy people all take the shahada. and only fools like you will be consumed by the falsehood of the Bible. Open your eyes and heart, that many are proven to be infidels many who convert, because they know the true religion. And as long as you know, Jesus is a prophet but not a god. the status of jesus is the same as the prophet MUHAMMAD only the prophet MUHAMMAD is the last prophet who carries a message for all the people in the world.
@muhammadpedofilpbuh52505 жыл бұрын
@@hambarabbani3295 agreed, only muhammad true prophet for syaitan, what kind a prophet having sex with aisah 6 years old???
@gearpaligear91005 жыл бұрын
hope so
@gearpaligear91005 жыл бұрын
Nobody can be guided if Almighty God Allah didn't guide him
@simonyesayan68297 ай бұрын
Brother Adnan destroyed Christianity in this debate Alhamdullah!!
@theonik608210 ай бұрын
I don't trust debators who deny the one holy, catholic, apostolic and orthodox Church of Christ
@umairkhan-tu2fr4 жыл бұрын
Rashid you nailed it 👌🏻💥
@moseskristianto19534 жыл бұрын
"Eloi, Eloi lama sabakhtani" is the begining of psalm 22, a prophesy about Messiah. By quoting this verse, Jesus reminded the people around him that He fullfil the prophesy.
@Ttcopp12rt4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@yousefhassan8474 жыл бұрын
so he said it without meaning it?...
@ashhadkalam89952 ай бұрын
So jesus in human form was not ready to be sacrificed and he was forsaking God for choosing him for sacrifice ? Or his need for being saved and taken up was aligning with the God in Heaven and saved him. Its upto Christians to choose
@moseskristianto19532 ай бұрын
@@ashhadkalam8995 The phrase is a prophecy.
@ashhadkalam89952 ай бұрын
@@moseskristianto1953 You meant to say that to fulfil prophesy that jesus can talk something opposite to what he is supposed to say ?
@asharsiddiqi70783 жыл бұрын
thanks for the wonderful debate. Your efforts were highly commendable. Such debates are essentially necessary in order to understand each other's religion. Having said that I would like to express myself by saying that no where in entire Qur'an you will find the word "martyrdom" or "Jesus being martyred" for Jesus. You are connecting or assuming something that is not there in the first place. Quran is simply saying "They killed him not" ... By "they" it simply means Jews and the Romans who thought that they had killed Jesus for sure. For God, it would've been easier to make an unambiguous statement such as "They killed him not... Jesus was martyred raised to heaven and shall return to you one day" ... Or God could have simply said something like... "Martyres never die so is Jesus" ... But this is not the case ... The concept of Jesus's crucifixion and the concept of martyrdom are two very different concepts in Islam .., if the word is not there then you must not assume. I enjoyed the debate though!
@SamuelGreen-AU3 жыл бұрын
Hello Ashar, thank you very much for your thoughtful comments. > Having said that I would like to express myself by saying that no where in entire Qur'an you will find the word "martyrdom" or "Jesus being martyred" for Jesus. You are connecting or assuming something that is not there in the first place. I agree that the word martyr may not be in the Qur'an, but the concept certainly is in many verses when it speaks about those who die "in the way of Allah." > Quran is simply saying "They killed him not" That is an exegetical question. My point is that it never says Jesus was not crucified or killed, but that the Jews did not do it. This is not the same thing. > By "they" it simply means Jews and the Romans who thought that they had killed Jesus for sure. No, in context "they" refers to the Jews. How it appeared to the Romans and disciples is not mentioned. It is imposing an idea to assume it appeared this way to everyone. It appeared to the Jews that they had killed and crucified Jesus. > For God, it would've been easier to make an unambiguous statement such as "They killed him not... Jesus was martyred raised to heaven and shall return to you one day" ... Or God could have simply said something like... "Martyres never die so is Jesus" ... But this is not the case ... This is why we need to look at all the verses that speak about the taking of Jesus. > The concept of Jesus's crucifixion and the concept of martyrdom are two very different concepts in Islam .., if the word is not there then you must not assume. The idea of martyrdom is in the Qur'an and my point is that the crucifixion is described in this way. I am trying to let the Qur'an interpret itself. My latest work on this is the booklet in the description box. But my question for you is, what does "it appeared to them" mean? Can you offer a better explanation?
@asharsiddiqi70783 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelGreen-AU it's a pleasure to hear from you Sir, my answer was based on logic I may be wrong but let see. Like I said in Qur'an the word martyrdom is not associated with Jesus. Had it been the case God would have made a direct statement in Qur'an about Jesus having achieved the status of a martyr and that he is among those who are physically dead but spiritually alive in heaven. May I give you another example in this regard in order to simplify this concept... In Quran it says that God ascended Jesus to heaven . Suppose an atheist comes up to me and ask me how a physical human being can go to heaven just like that?? Did Jesus board a spacecraft that travelled lightspeed and reached heaven?? Does Qur'an says anything about rocket propulsion?? My answer would be "No" not at all...This atheist guy may further ask me that which creatures or beings of God have the ability to travel back and forth from heaven to earth on daily basis that is mentioned in your Qur'an or Bible? Naturally my answer would be "angels"... So he may further ask... based on my reply or statement... Is it incorrect to say that Jesus could've been an angel who was sent down from heaven and as he landed he became human and when he left he again transformed into an angel with wings and flew away?? Since Qur'an does not explicitly says how he was raised (the mechanism behind this phenomenon)?? Since angels are mentioned in both Bible and Quran and they have the ability to travel from heaven to earth back and forth all the time? So why jesus was not an angel?? Why was he considered a messenger of God based on how he ascended to the heavens?? Naturally my reply would be that "You are right technically" since no other prophet left this world, Like how Jesus Did in Qur'an ... But based on our Quranic and biblical knowledge, For sure Jesus was not an angel (for numerous reasons). My analogy would be that the word "Jesus ascended like an angel" (similarly like the word "martyr" is missing in that verse) is simply not there especially in that specific Quranic verse when it comes to Jesus's ascendation . But for the sake of an argument one can argue with me that this atribute of Jesus sounds very much like an angel..and.. ...technically I would say "Yes" if you read other verses of Qur'an you will find angels ascending and descending from heaven all the time. But Angel's ascendation and JESUS ascendation are two different things and one must not confuse one from the other. In other words let's not assume the opposite is true...if you find Quranic verse confusing to interpret (when it comes to crucifixion of Jesus) then may I suggest that you to stop right there. Comparing oranges to apples is not the solution of this problem. It will further confuse you. It's not about finding "the missing link" here...confusion leads to Assumption and assumptions leads to fabrication, interpolation and concoction... So this would be the most logical reply that I can give based on my limited knowledge. So I hope that this simple example may sound more logical in the above case.
@SamuelGreen-AU3 жыл бұрын
@@asharsiddiqi7078 Thanks for the reply. Again, I would say there is not a word in the Qur'an that specifically means martyr anyway, so that the word martyr is not assigned to Jesus is not a problem, it is not assigned to anyone. Regarding angels ascending, the Qur'an says that those who die in Allah's way are taken up to God. There is no need to talk about angels. As I point out in the debate and my booklet, the description of those who die in Allah's way is the same description that we find for the crucifixion: they only appear to be dead and have been taken up to Allah. In the booklet I show how 3:55, 5:117 refer to Jesus being taken in death, and 4:157-158 never says that Jesus was taken bodily. Again I ask, what does it mean that Jesus only "appeared" to be crucified and killed to the Jews?
@asharsiddiqi70783 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelGreen-AU Simply that Jews got the wrong guy. Jesus was safe and sound. Just like how Jonah remained in the belly of whale alive for 3 days and 3 nights and was later returned to his people so shall the son of man.
@SamuelGreen-AU3 жыл бұрын
@@asharsiddiqi7078 Thanks for the reply. > Simply that Jews got the wrong guy. Okay, but there is no indication for this in the Qur'an at all, and 3:55 and 5:117 indicate that he was taken in death. (See booklet) > Jesus was safe and sound. Just like how Jonah remained in the belly of whale alive for 3 days and 3 nights and was later returned to his people so shall the son of man. Okay, but it was Jonah in the fish not someone else. If we use Jonah as an example then that means Jesus was crucified but survived in the same way Jonah was swallowed but survived.
@abeidkhamis6130 Жыл бұрын
All of these theories practiced in Christianity are Paul's philosophy of ancient Greek and Romans belief.therefore in any debate christians will never defeat Muslims in terms arguments supported by scriptures.
@gherrocrucible Жыл бұрын
Samuel Green is actually 100% right on this matter. Jesus suffered the cross died resurrected and ascended. Allāhu Akbar.
@khanPK2N Жыл бұрын
Haw do you know Jesus died on the Cross. The torture Jesus went through is not in the early manuscripts it was added to the story to strengthenthe narrative. Jesus was not tortured or beaten, had his legs broken etc... Ponctious Pilate had nothing against Jesus but was strong armed into doing what he did. There is no evidence he was nailed to a cross again this is a later addition and besides the normal roman practice was to tie the person with rope. Naw Jesus was just tied to a cross and he was up for haw long? Just a few hours. Just what exactly did he die of? All the Quran say is they thought they killed him on the Cross. It looked like he died but he didn't. The sahaba did not ask any questions so there where no hadith to give further explanation. This idea of someone else taking the form of Jesus was an attempt by early Muslim scholars to reconcile the Quran with the historical accounts in the bible. They did not live in the information age and simply took what the Christians where saying at face value but of course naw we know the story evolved and the Christians added a lot and with this information you don't need any interpretation. You can just take what the Quran say literally. Jesus (pbuh) voluntary handed himself in he was tied to a cross for afew hours. It looked like he died but he didn't, Simple. I feel that you Christians only know what your leaders say about Islam. Look for your self. I'm not asking you to leave Jesus. Only to stop worshiping him and worship God the father. Islam is ment for the end time so a least look at the major and minor signs of the end or the dajjal/Antichrist who will be known by one eye.
@marionweigel35424 жыл бұрын
Yes, our Savior was crucified. That's GOSPEL TRUTH. The qumran is not the Gospel. I know that!
@TheJewishscum5 жыл бұрын
JESUS is not God. let's move on with our lives
@TheJewishscum5 жыл бұрын
Thats a dumb statement im sorry. I could write a whole lecture on your statement but I will just ask you to use your logic and common sense and not your pride and ignorance. I'm not trying to be rude here in just saying open your mind and be objective. If God is triune and Jesus is second in the God head talking to people (Israelites) who previously received clear instructions about who God is and up to this day they haven't changed their view it would make sense for Jesus to make clear and unambiguous statement that he is God. Instead people were puzzled for hundreds of years and argued different concepts. And once you start to translate the meanings into a foreign language the meaning is often lost. I know lots of jokes that are very very funny but when you translate it in English they sound silly and no-one laughs.
@faithbuilder13205 жыл бұрын
@@TheJewishscum What Lance Gin is saying is if Muslims say, in the Bible where did Jesus say, "I am God worship me"? Then the question rises where then did Jesus say "I am not God don't worship Me". WORD FOR WORD! To be precise. Because when people called Him God & when they worshipped Him, He did not forbid them from doing it. Each time people prostrated before an angel/messenger, they were told by the angel not to do so because they are servants of God.
@johnpereira97555 жыл бұрын
@@TheJewishscum This has reference to your reply to Lance Gin. In the Gospels we come across dozens of verses wherein Jesus avoids a direct unambiguous reply . For example Mathew 26 : 63 - 64. The high priest said to Him, " I put You under oath by the living God: Tell us if You are the Christ, the Son of God !" Jesus said to Him " It is as you said …." In other words, Jesus left it to the discretion, logical reasoning and common sense of the person He was addressing to . If your logic and common sense demand that He is not God for you that is your sovereign decision, however wrong that may be.I can cherry pick a dozen verses and argue Jesus is not God as well another dozen to argue He is God. But considering both kind of these verses and experiencing the miraculous divine power of Jesus in my own life, for me and for many Christians like me He is our God.
@faithbuilder13205 жыл бұрын
@@TheJewishscum The idea portrayed of the Messiah in the Old Testament is not only that of a King, but a Prophet, Priest, (Mediator or an Intercessor between man & God) Saviour & an Eternal Being (Daniel 7:13,14), sent to save the world from their sins & restore creation to the way it was in Eden. The ancient Rabbis & sages before Jesus, until probably 6 AD understood & believed this. And I'm superficially scratching the surface of this subject. Because the modern day Rabbis have alienated themselves from this view for obvious reasons. Jesus Himself quoting from David's Psalm 110:1 said " The Lord says to my Lord "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a foot stool for your feet." He asks the religious leaders in Matthew (24:41-46) that if the Messiah or Christ is David's son, then how come David calls Him Lord (Ps 110:1). In the end the religious leaders hand Him over to be crucified because He says He is the Messiah of Daniel 7:13,14 (in Matthew 26:62-67). The Jews considered it a BLASPHEMY for Jesus to call Himself the Messiah because to them the Messiah was God appearing in flesh - GOD APPEARING IN FLESH (earth suite). So His nature did not change. He was Holy (Perfect) & Sinless in every way. Only God can walk like that in a fallen world because humanly it is impossible.
@faithbuilder13205 жыл бұрын
@@TheJewishscum Compare Genesis 1:1-3, with John 1:1-5. There are a number of instances in the OLD TESTAMENT (Torah/Tanakh) where the Angel of God (i.e., the Word of God or Jesus) was also called (YHWEH) or God. He was worshipped & He received worship. For example, in Exodus 14:19 we see the Angel of God who manifested Himself in the pillar of cloud (& fire by night) separating Pharaoh's army & the Israelites. In verse 24 of the same chapter He is referred to as "Lord" in the English translation. But in the original Hebrew for "Lord" is "YHWEH" (God). You can check this and many other scriptures in the original Hebrew. It's easy because of the internet. You can check the Interlinear Bible. Or other sites of your choice.
@eliasdaffie64365 жыл бұрын
As Christian am disappointed that there has been a discussion on Psalms 91 for almost 30 mins but no one mentions Psalms 22, exactly from the same book of King David. THe simple logic would be the Prophecy of King David on Psalms 22 is precisely what happened in the whole Process of Crucifixion. How about all the Prophecy in Old testament ? The 30 pieces of Silver? Isaiah 53 ? (okay they can question this ) but Psalms 22 and Jer 19 (talks about Zechariah's prophecy of 30 pieces of Silver).
@gudmoraa83032 жыл бұрын
Zachariah matters is not prophecy for someone to fulfill.it just pick and paste for Jesus check it well
@kyleauthman3 ай бұрын
Because its about false Prophets
@crusr13684 жыл бұрын
So if the death of Jesus cannot be believed from historians then no one can believe that " One night Mohammeds steed travelled to Jerusalem. Its feet touched Temple Mount and then he went to heaven on a horse." No witnesses saw this. It conveniently happened at night so no witnesses saw him not going on this horse. So Islam got no historical claim on Temple Mount.
@S1992-s7b Жыл бұрын
The one true God, our Lord, "YHWH, Father" and "YHWH, Son" and "YHWH, The Holy Spirit", blesses HIS childeren, and truth seeking people. I pray for all the people, including "My sisters and brothers in Christ", Jews, Muslims, Atheists, Buddists and ...
@rezacny5 жыл бұрын
good win adnan! zakir also destroyed James white on this topic. strongly.
@jamalkhan37085 жыл бұрын
Sahibzada Haider ali You Muslims are not blessed to understand this revolution. Unless you are sincere and ask God. Why you are afraid to ask God? Mean time just to let you know one God in three being.
@mohdhalimbinkassim1535 жыл бұрын
@@jamalkhan3708 says the confused christian.. who taught you that? certainly not Jesus.. Oh yeah...Paul did..
@jamalkhan37085 жыл бұрын
Sahibzada Haider ali That’s what I said you are low IQ Muslim 😂🤣😆 this revolution beyond your understanding. Ask Jesus Christ and he will revel to you.
@cheek12145 жыл бұрын
@@jamalkhan3708 that's what appears in the genealogy written about jesus in the bible. Incest in the bible, that's holy book? Do you understand English?
@CosCosmy-lj4qd5 жыл бұрын
Jamal K no muslim is honest even when they lose a debate ( they ALWAYS LOSE) they will say they won they lying to everyone including themselves! Taqya is the air muslims breath and can’t handle the truth! Adnan got boiled and mashed 😂😂I know why he doesn’t dare to debate Christian Prince
@xwatchz51504 жыл бұрын
Jesus Pbuh said to his followers in the Gospel the next messenger/comforter will arrive by the name of Muhammad and he will reavel the words(Qur'an) of the one who sent me (Allah). But why Christians do not follower Jesus? But they follow the Vatican. Pls convert to Islam now, while there is time for you because life is short.
@ryan639704 жыл бұрын
The New Testament: the word of god The Quran: the words of satan www.google.com: Hilal means crescent religions of Lucifer exposed
@gaipa20064 жыл бұрын
Haha 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 laughing alot. We refuse to follow Islam because it comes from demonic sources. It rejects the deity of Jesus Christ. In John 14:6 Jesus Christ says, "Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me". Moreover, in John 16:7 says, "But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you". Jesus Christ will send the comfortable, so thanks for letting us know that Jesus Christ is God.
@alchemistpk1603 жыл бұрын
@@ryan63970 is Qur'an tha word of satan.. go and take a look on Arabic version of bible you will 17 times in genesis the name allah by letter to letter
@neeli303 жыл бұрын
Don’t ask to accept Islam it is their own choice just convey message.They are strayed, unaware of their own religion.
@sulkanbenedicto40784 жыл бұрын
A witness of his own account in a different moment of time will give you a different story. But Adnan Rashid what's to imposed be consistent all the time. In court you need to listen every different details of the story before a judge to know and decide the real truth. SORRY FRIEND IT SEEMS YOUR NOT EVEN A GOOD WITNEES NOR A GOOD JUDGE. YOUR COMPREHENSION IS SO POOR. Little learning is a dangerous THING!!!!
@barbiebarbie81633 жыл бұрын
exactly what i thought, thats why most of the scholars dont take islam seriously,,,what a shame
@crusr13684 жыл бұрын
He dissed Reza Aslan and Shabeer Ally . Both debate better than him. Adnan's a bit too emotional. He doesnt have that dispassionate countenance and approach of good scholars.
@vivreserein851 Жыл бұрын
Brother Samuel, accept Islam my brother, the only gate between you and the Truth is the Ego. Does your Ego worth Eternity ? May God guide you.
@Shahid.Salman3 жыл бұрын
Respect to mr samuel green😇
@SamuelGreen-AU3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words :-)
@afolayanonesimus34092 жыл бұрын
Samuel Green know this for sure, Christians are praying for you apologist. may God give you more knowledge, courage, and protection. cheers
@musajallow57105 жыл бұрын
the bible said god is not the author of confusions! so these bibles are indeed not from God but men of self interests! may Alllah the one God moses jesus and muhammed guide my christians and sisters in humanitty
@Hamann96314 жыл бұрын
Musa Jallow. The Bible isn't confusing.
@ummzaynul3705 жыл бұрын
Behold me and see: Luke 24:39 King James Version (KJV) 39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. A spirit has no flesh and bones?
@theholyfireministry3755 жыл бұрын
Umm Zaynul Hallelujah glory to the resurrected Christ Jesus amen
@ummzaynul3705 жыл бұрын
@@theholyfireministry375 Jesus wasn't resurrected, he was taken up to God Almighty Allaah. John 20:17 New International Version Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" Jesus is Not God for God sake he has a God.
@ummzaynul3705 жыл бұрын
@@theholyfireministry375 and Jesus peace be upon him will return down to earth from heaven on his second coming and he will Disown Christians who worshipped him.
@ummzaynul3705 жыл бұрын
@@theholyfireministry375 Jesus called you Evildoers and law breakers! Read your bibles it's all in there
@theholyfireministry3755 жыл бұрын
Umm Zaynul According to your Quran not bible my dear brother in humanity and Jesus was resurrected I bear witness to his resurrection by the Holy Spirit that he died and on the 3rd day rose again and he appeared to me when I had my encounter with Jesus hallelujah hallelujah glory to king Jesus Christ amen
@thereanimator9264 жыл бұрын
So Muslims concede that a crucifixion did take place but Jesus fell asleep?
@tashriquekarriem886525 күн бұрын
😂, Adnan said that not the Quran
@MrAdel3x4 жыл бұрын
samuel and adnan you bolth are such a wonderful human beings im 100 per cent , GOD will reward bolth of you in the hereafter .
@carenbeat38215 жыл бұрын
I have a question for Adnan Rashid, I would have like the possibility of Jesus being taken up alive to Allah; and yes this did took place at the end when he was taken back to the Father God; but it was after he ressurected from his dead on the cross; after having to suffer so much , but if that would have being the case , we have two worth problems; why Allah save Jesus the prophet; but my question to you is why than he did not safe the prophet Mohammed, from being Poisson and didn't not took him out of his suffering death ? ; and the other series problem is that Allah have confirm that Jesus was a prophet and Messiah ; this contradict the prophecy that Jesus prophecy about himself being cruxify, died and rise again in resurrection, for our sins; and the previous prophets that prophecy about the Messiah, The Qur'an has more contradiction, than the Gospels, about Jews and Christians, and how the same angel Gabriel give revelations to the prophet Mohammed that Allah had no Son, but the same Angel rebeals to Mary she would concieved a child call Jesus the Son of God the Messiah, and savior, can you answer why there is more contradictions on the Qur'an than in the Gospels why is this not lineing up with the previous scriptures of God the people of the book? God Bless you !!! Peace upon all of us.!!!
@iamhuman22285 жыл бұрын
Carmen Garcia hello :) Straight to the point 1) prophet muhammad pbup survived approx 3 years after being poisoned. Plus he had completed all his mission on earth so it was his time, unlike jesus pbuh who will come back 2) quran has no contradiction . YOU beleive angel gabriel foretold jesus as SON OF GOD but we beleive he never say that, he foretold jesus as a prophet of god 3) the crucifiction of jesus was never mentionned in old testament sources , there is no mention of cruxifiction only his coming and that he will preach the torah and bring the israelites back to the straight path. Anyway i hope you convert to islam , because i can’t imagine how life must be fore you trying to make sense of life with things like trinity while islam is so much more logical and fits well with reason. Peace to you
@faisalabdelkarim64575 жыл бұрын
45. The Angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a Word from Him. His name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, well-esteemed in this world and the next, and one of the nearest. 46. He will speak to the people from the crib, and in adulthood, and will be one of the righteous.” 47. She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child, when no man has touched me?” He said, “It will be so. God creates whatever He wills. To have anything done, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is." Both Jesus and Mohammed completed the message and died. No one is coming back. And [remember, O Muhammad], when those who disbelieved plotted against you to restrain you or kill you or evict you [from Makkah]. But they plan, and Allah plans. And Allah is the best of planners.
@iamhuman22285 жыл бұрын
@@faisalabdelkarim6457 jesus pbuh is coming back in the end times to kill dajjal and restore peace on earth .
@faisalabdelkarim64575 жыл бұрын
@@iamhuman2228 the second coming of Christ is contradiction of the Quran, and dajjal is fake story from Christianity adopted by Muslims. Mohammed never said that. Lots of things in hadiath is fake. Quran is all truth.
@iamhuman22285 жыл бұрын
@@faisalabdelkarim6457 I don't agree with you on that point brother but God will judge us
@leahohalo63775 жыл бұрын
Jesus is Lord.... Muslim should understand that Jesus was crucified and rise up on the third day....."i believe in the Holy Bible.amen
@expeditionquran5 жыл бұрын
Crucified by his creations according to you lol....very ridiculous what a laughable tragedy. How will God allow to be killed by powerless creatures like humans. Who ruled the world while god died. STOP IT PLEASE.....THIS IS MADNESS
@JohnDoe-tz3nx5 жыл бұрын
@@@expeditionquran Not according to us.. but according to you. very ridiculous tragedy is Illetrate man shows up in the middle of no where who never met Jesus and says he didnt die? after 6-700 years where christianity was wide spread and jews and christians were in Mecca. laughable is when mohamhead confirmed the books which were in possession of people of the book. very ridiculous laughable tragedy is quran dosen't explain whats the point of al lah moon god creating by blowing into marys farjah and creating Jesus.. if he's just a man? why was he given power to create mud bird and blow init to make it alive if he is just a man. why was he created sinless if he is just a man to a point satan couldn't even touch him.. if he was just a man.. and he is called word of god and spirit proceeding from god. Our god is a spirit, Is allah spirit? he is a physical being with hands,arms,legs, back to sit on his throne. was al lah speaking in the burning bush to moses?
@expeditionquran5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-tz3nx Do you even listen and understand what you are saying lol....How many times did Jesus say I do this and that by the POWER given to me by my FATHER. How did Moses part the RED SEA? and so many other miracles. PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF ON THE BIBLE be4 coming here with such nonsense
@JohnDoe-tz3nx5 жыл бұрын
@guled abdullahi ng Instead, he gave up his divine privileges; he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form. Why did Allah blow in Mary’s Farjah and created Jesus and none of the prophets were created that way?
@JohnDoe-tz3nx5 жыл бұрын
@Intellect, reason&Logic Use your brain women’s private part.
@evangelistangelbowman31225 жыл бұрын
I had no idea about the Qu'aran's way of explaining death. Thanks!
@aluminaterock6605 жыл бұрын
it means sleep is a minor form of death..so a person who is death will be having the same experience as man who is deep sleep and realistic dreams but without coming back to life ( and have a big sign ..oh lucky this is just a dream and i am still alive)
@thiefknot2955 жыл бұрын
Hi Sir, actually Qur'an said Jesus not died on the Cross and those who want to kill Jesus (those Jews) the haven't kill Jesus for sure ,,
@arunrampersad59115 жыл бұрын
@@thiefknot295 the koran came after so it does not give an accurate account of anything in history ......all the Bible in the world has the same message.....even if Muslims say it has changed....THAT MESSAGE AND MORAL IS JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS .WAS CRUSIFIED AND ROSE AGAIN ON YHE THIRD DAY...HE IS ALIVE FOREVERMORE.....AND HE IS COMING AGAIN WITH GREAT POWER AND GREAT GLORY
@thiefknot2955 жыл бұрын
@@arunrampersad5911 Hi ,,, First of all u have to understand what we believe ,,, we believe Qur'an is The God's Words so ,,, ur saying that its not accurate its not gonna apply here ,,, 2ndl can u tell me how man bibles u talking about? infect there are man Gospels other then 4 whom we have in Bible ,,, and then the also Differ with them selves ,,, so ur this claim isnt right ,,, u can check it ,,, for example i take ur words about "WAS CRUSIFIED AND ROSE AGAIN ON YHE THIRD DAY" ,,, here 3rd da rose again its differ from Bible Gospels ,,, Friday afternoon to Sunday Morning isnt 3 das and 3 nights ,,, and no eye witness u have recorded in the Bible about this Crusifiection
@thiefknot2955 жыл бұрын
@Philip Garrod Dear ,,, can u give me proof of what u saying or otherwise i am telling u that in Qur'an mentioned that Jesus (PBUH) not crucified and not killed on the Cross ,,, infect The God take Jesus upto Heavens ,,, and Surely Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) Confirmed Torah in the sense that this book was also divine ,,, also tells that its been Corrupted with the passage of time ,, people make addition and subtraction and alteration in it ,,,
@eltrillionaire-39510 ай бұрын
Adnan is more precise. At some points, Samuel's reasoning was fluid, not solid.
@MathematicswithDrHaiderAli Жыл бұрын
Mr. Green's please stop your own opinion... It is as a serious matter... Don't misguide people...
@smartrecords48815 жыл бұрын
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans:5:8
@jaketurx77435 жыл бұрын
@Samuel Green I want you to have a formal debate with Rabbi Tovia Singer on the topic of: 'Is Jesus the Promised Jewish Messiah?'
@SamuelGreen-AU5 жыл бұрын
Hello Jake. Why?
@jaketurx77435 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelGreen-AU Because I am Rabbi Tovia Singer's liaison and he told me that he wanted me to arrange for you to debate him on the topic of: 'Is Jesus the Promised Jewish Messiah?'
@SamuelGreen-AU5 жыл бұрын
@@jaketurx7743 Plans are underway and God willing this event will happen in 2019.
@sheikhmd.salman96924 жыл бұрын
Interesting ... though as Muslims we believe Jesus was the messiah but still would be interesting to see Jews analysing the Old Testament.
@faisalsiraj94234 жыл бұрын
@@sheikhmd.salman9692 Here is the debate: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYqYkHeEgZuLZ7s
@paulbalkissoon58515 жыл бұрын
As a Muslim i agree with your opening statement mr green.
@bintzubeida92075 жыл бұрын
Go learn your deen
@iamhuman22285 жыл бұрын
Ok.... PAUL
@Hallucinatingfreak5 жыл бұрын
In Islam we have no Paul
@bintzubeida92075 жыл бұрын
@@Hallucinatingfreak that's true too,it just occurred to me that there are some haters out there that would do anything to undermine Islam. I don't think that guy is a Muslim ,a Muslim would never agree with that mixed up opening statement
@HandsOfLogic4 жыл бұрын
Paul, did your Holly spirit order you to do that?
@maulinux1 Жыл бұрын
If we question the crucifixion of Jesus, then it's simply not we are Christians . So this debate doesn't make any sense.
@tashriquekarriem886525 күн бұрын
God has given you the ability to think to reason. Does he not want you to use it or use it selectively? So use it and strengthen your faith.
@maulinux125 күн бұрын
@@tashriquekarriem8865 This is precisely what Adnan Rashid does not do. So you agree that Rashid is totally illogical. Perfect.
@maulinux125 күн бұрын
@@tashriquekarriem8865 Reason also helps us understand that the truths of faith are not the subject of question. So you used reason and you agree with me that Rashid does not use logic like God asks we
@ahmedgaafar53694 жыл бұрын
both debaters are wonderful, i actually learned more about quran from Mr Samuel Green whom i really liked a lot, and from my heart wished god to make him Muslim...i want to see this man going to paradise with Mr Adnan inshaa allah....A+ for everybody else...god bless you guys.
@ryan639704 жыл бұрын
Muslims do not go to heaven Only christians go to heaven
@Halal_Dan2 жыл бұрын
@@ryan63970 Christians ascribe partners to the Creator, which would exclude them from heaven.
@kamarulazmijasmisstudio255 Жыл бұрын
@@ryan63970 Al-Quran is more authentic than the Gospel. When the Quran states that the only accepted religion in the sight of Allah is Islam, then non-Muslims are considered disbelievers (kafir). Although Islam is the religion of all the prophets, it does not mean that when Prophet Muhammad came, the followers of Prophet Isa (Jesus) could choose not to believe in Prophet Muhammad. No! It is obligatory for them to believe in him to be able to enter paradise."
@liebewahr51275 жыл бұрын
Adnan u have very well. Jahovah bless you
@ZiIIous Жыл бұрын
There is no "Jehovah", and if you are referring to Yahweh, go read about its origin. It's just "lesser god" idol that was assigned to the Israelites, and after a religious conflict, they leveled him up to "mighty god". You will not find "Yahweh" in the New Testament, which was written in Greek. Only in the Old Testament, because the Israelites CORRUPTED it.
@danmurphy9885 жыл бұрын
So if prophet Jesus is god, god died. Ok. That make sense.
@journeyaddictman355 жыл бұрын
Vatican has been using this tricks for thousand year
@crusr13684 жыл бұрын
Leave Samuel n Adnan aside for a moment. If your life depended on a fact would u believe someone who lived over 600 yrs after the supposed fact, who lived 1000 kms away, who was of another race? Spoke another language? Or will you believe contemporaries/ witnesses of the fact plus independant historical witnesses who lived at the time of the fact? And recorded it within decades of it happening?
@crusr13684 жыл бұрын
I'm busy currently. I'll get back to u and well both laugh at Koran and Islamic beliefs.
@rumzih91794 жыл бұрын
Well the question for you to answer is why do you believe the gospels are a reliable source information. Why do you believe they were written by eyewitnesses. They don't claim to be written by decibels. Besides decibels of Jesus were aramaic speaking peasants from Gallilee. These gospels are written by highly educated, retorically trained greek speaking Christians, decades after Jesus. To say they were written by decibels of Jesus would be complete CONJECTURE. Whether Muhamamd came 600 years or even 1000 years after Jesus doesn't prove anything. If it can be proven that he is a prophet of God, then we must follow what he says. The problem is, you are working off of a false asumption. You assume that you have eyewitness acounts, and so you reject anything else. But if I had to pick between some anonymously written documents, and a proven prophet of God, I would pick the prophet.
@crusr13684 жыл бұрын
@@rumzih9179 Proven prophet of God? He didnt know who the Trinity was! Furthermore, he confused mary , mother of Jesus wt mary sister of Aaron! Furthermore, if the gospels where written in aramaic few people wud hv had access n understood it cos few people spoke it . Greek, on the otherhand was the language of the world. It made perfect sense to put out gospel in Greek so it could reach entire world at the time. That's why even Jews before Jesus's time copied Hebrew OT into Greek Septugint bcos so many Jews around world where speaking greek. All yor earliest Korans with variants, mind u, were burnt up at behest of Uthman. So he was Allah in a sense. Hence U dont hv a leg to stand on when it comes to talking to Christians n Jews about early manuscripts n sources. Bible was written over 1500 yrs by sm 35 holy men of God. I wont diss that, for what 1 man wrote, who showed signs of demon possession.
@crusr13684 жыл бұрын
Rumzi Asad , Proven prophet of God? He didnt know who the Trinity was! Furthermore, he confused mary , mother of Jesus wt mary sister of Aaron! Furthermore, if the gospels where written in aramaic few people wud hv had access n understood it cos few people spoke it . Greek, on the otherhand was the language of the world. It made perfect sense to put out gospel in Greek so it could reach entire world at the time. That's why even Jews before Jesus's time copied Hebrew OT into Greek Septugint bcos so many Jews around world where speaking greek. All yor earliest Korans with variants, mind u, were burnt up at behest of Uthman. So he was Allah in a sense. Hence U dont hv a leg to stand on when it comes to talking to Christians n Jews about early manuscripts n sources. Bible was written over 1500 yrs by sm 35 holy men of God. I wont diss that, for what 1 man wrote, who showed signs of demon possession.
@rumzih91794 жыл бұрын
@@crusr1368 Notice that you didn't actually answer my question. Why do you believe that the gospels are a reliable source of information? Why do you believe they are written by eye witnesses???? You just talked about why it had to be written in Greek, but that doesn't answer whether they were authored by decibels, who were illiterate and only spoke Aramaic. BUT ANYWAY The Quran does not get the Trinity wrong, in Surah 5:116, Jesus is asked "did you tell the people to take yourself and your mother as dieties other than Allah." There is no mentioning of the Trinity. Today Christians worship Jesus and his mother as dieties along with God. The Quran doesn ot mix between the two marry's. This is something the prophet himself actually clarified. In the Quranic language people are often called the brother or sister of either their lineage or the apostles. So when the Quran says "sister of Aaron" it's refering to Marry (the mother of Jesus) who is decended from Aaron. Regarding preservation, unlike Christians we don't rely on manuscripts. Because manuscsripts will have mistakes and errors. Also you can never prove who actually wrote the manuscript, meaning you cannot verify if the person who wrote it was honest and reliable. Even if something is dated to be an early source, that does not necessarily make it acurate or reliable. That's why we don't rely our faith on manuscripts (unlike Christians). We have Isnad, which is the chain of memorization and transmition. If you ever wanted to change something in the Quran, you would need to change the memorization of the thousands of compantions who had memorized the Quran. Regarding Uthman, firstly Uthman was not one man. It was a committee of comapnions of the prophet who had all memorized the Quran. These were companions like Zaid bin Thabit, and Aballah Ibn Zubair and many others. For a detailed explanation about Uthman burning the Quran, you can check this link kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHPbf2afrKtsj6c But notice that you have indirectly admited that the Quran, goes back to Uthman and the other companions of the prophet (PBUH). So you admit that the Quran goes back the the comapnions of the prophet who were EYE WITNESSES and DECIBELS of the prophet. Now let's see if you are consistant in your judgement. PROVE THAT THE GOSPEL AUTHORS WERE DECIBELS OF JESUS!!!!!!!
@okngarod7180 Жыл бұрын
ACTS 3:11-15 While the man held on to Peter and John, all the people were astonished and came running to them in the place called Solomon’s Colonnade. 12 When Peter saw this, he said to them: “Fellow Israelites, why does this surprise you? Why do you stare at us as if by our own power or godliness we had made this man walk? 13 The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. 14 You disowned the Holy and Righteous One and asked that a murderer be released to you. 15 You killed the author of life, but God raised him from the dead. We are witnesses of this. 16 By faith in the name of Jesus, this man whom you see and know was made strong. It is Jesus’ name and the faith that comes through him that has completely healed him, as you can all see.
@nasiib2131 Жыл бұрын
Jesus did not teach people that he was God. If Jesus had been telling people that he was God, he would have complimented the man. Instead, Jesus rebuked him, denying he was good, that is, Jesus denied he was God. 4. The Bible Says that God is Greater than Jesus John 14:28 "My Father is greater than I." John 10:29 "My father is greater than all." Jesus can not be God if God is greater than him. The Christian belief that the Father and son are equal is in direct contrast to the clear words from Jesus. 5. Jesus Never Instructed His Disciples to Worship Himself or the Holy Ghost, but God and God Only Luke 11:2 "When you pray, say Our Father which art in heaven." John 16:23 "In that day, you shall ask me nothing. Whatsoever you ask of the Father in my name." John 4:23 "The hour cometh and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the Father seeketh such to worship him."