Was Firing CM Punk AEW's Biggest Mistake?

Mish, Joe, and John Draper talk about the firing of CM Punk and all the rumors and stories that have been coming out about him as well as what led to this and the horrific impact it will have on the company as a whole.
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[@southpaw933]

Refreshing to know there are still a lot of fans who get pro wrestling, and see through this smokescreen. Punk was an easy scapegoat.

[@NickRaymond871]

The Elite all held hands and vanquished Punk with the Care Bear Stare

[@DanVillainFilms]

Haha. Yes.

[@michaelchildress2001]

😂😂

[@darius8715]

Nah they use the true powers of the golden lovers! 🤣😆😂

[@kginob]

This comment is awesome😂

[@kanedasrifle]

😂 I literally just spat out my drink , tremendous.

[@jeffers1985]

from this whole punk ordeal ive realised how awful the AEW fanbase truly is. You had a guy who pulled people to the product and you ran him out of door with a bunch of shit heads. Omega is ok, but the rest of the clowns should of been booted out for going into business for themselves and started this war

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

These anti punk people are the truly toxic ones. They can't see it. They can't see that they are the ones listening to the opinions of other people they never met who hate someone else. And most of those wrestlers never met cm punk before he joined AEW. And other wrestlers who did know punk beforehand made other people hate him before he even got there. It was doomed from the start. But they can't see that they're the whispering little girls ganging up to try and turn people against someone and being passive aggressive wimps it's mostly for clout in the AEW inner circle. These are the fans who gets wildly defensive on a personal level if you mildly critique something they like because they're so bland that they made wrestling a personality trait not an interest.

[@Kr4ShSkeL]

He ran himself out by punching people you brainless fanboys

[@officialsonic1]

that's why nick khan called tony khan a kid lmao

[@jamespond863]

Putting it simply, Cody was the beginning of the end for AEW, he was the proper leader and was forced out by the EVPs, Cody was the only adult in the room and they screwed it. Would love to see Punk going on the Cornette podcast, they wont hold back at all.

[@jesuszamora6949]

Cody and Brandi were the glue that held that locker room together. It all went to shit almost immediately after they left.

[@ned5231]

Cody left because punk was being brought in

[@joekuvorkian]

@@ned5231 Nobody believes you.

[@billythekid22220]

@@ned5231ahahahahahaha ok

[@garymck5181]

​@ned5231 lol Cody and Punk have zero heat. Punk even makes a point from time to time of publicly talking about his respect for Dusty, and about how much Dusty liked him.

[@jakenavatka9431]

The biggest blunder was Tony Khan failing to squash the heat between CM Punk and The Elite guys early on imo.

[@DavidDexterMusic]

Tony should have fired Jungle Boy. He has never sold a single ticket for AEW and no one would miss him if he was gone, he is still super green, so it's an easy release to make.

[@myownpersonalopinion4541]

He should be the bottom of the card of a for an audience in a barn with 12 people in it

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

Jungle child is effectively a long haired Tony Khan't. Who gets in the ring.

[@officialsonic1]

to play fair game he should of fired jungle boy but cm punk is not one of the boys

[@DavidDexterMusic]

@@officialsonic1 That’s the problem, he was a man in a company with a lot of boys lol

[@Kr4ShSkeL]

And that's why you don't own a company CM punk had a second chance after his first backstage fight so why jungle boy can't have a second chance as well ? Stop being a brainless fanboy and fking grow up Btw if you look at the attendance for the chicago shows last week it looks like Punk can't sold any tickets as well, even chicago doesnt' care about him anymore

[@kingphillieman]

Never forget we still don't know the real reason Cody left. Waiting on the Punk response...

[@jamesj760]

The catastrophe that is AEW makes me respect Vince McMahon more in retrospect. Vince survived the craziest controversies in pro wrestling history and Tony Conman crumbled to a backstage scuffle. 😂

[@wingedhussar1453]

Not just a scuffle this is Like if hogan got in a fight with honky tonk man becauae the midcard hated hogan and qould shoot on hogan in 88 during wrestlemania and he gets fired

[@genecide6869]

Your awesome lol

[@Kr4ShSkeL]

Ever heard about Shawn MIchals ? But Vince couldn't fire him, because he was a draw, unlike Punk

[@wingedhussar1453]

@@Kr4ShSkeL lol actually shawm was not a draw. Which is what makes this post funny. 1995 96 shawn at the top

[@Kr4ShSkeL]

@@wingedhussar1453 he was not a giant draw but he for sure was a draw, if he wasn't there they would have done much worse And it's not his fault if the product was absolutely horrible during those years

[@misterelom]

Punk going on Rogan's show would be huge because of the platform size like you guys said, but Cornette would be epic because he's a wrestling guy. That would be the most downloaded episode of Jim's podcast of all time.

[@Mortallica03]

Joe Rogan only covers mainstream celebs Nobody outside of the ultra niche wrestling community cares about AEW.Punk,Jungle Boy or The Bucks and their problems The only wrestlers he has on his podcast are legit mainstream people like Hogan, Flair and Taker Plus Joe Rogan said Punk got mad at him because of the comments he said after his second fight, hence why on the second fight Punk skipped the post fight interview with Rogan

[@jesuszamora6949]

I imagine Punk going on the circuit with anyone not sucking Tony off, either in thebevent of not being welcomed back to WWE or after a WWE run. Corny and Helwani will make for some interesting interviews.

[@Kr4ShSkeL]

You brainless fanboys really want to see Jim Cornette verbally deephroat cm punk for two hours ?

[@Kr4ShSkeL]

@@Mortallica03 Oh another guy that Punk got mad at him for no reason, it's almost like there is a pattern here... Why did he not punched him this time ? It's much easir to hit a kid named jungle boy ofc

[@carloscjr23]

​@@Kr4ShSkeL so being a nepo-baby manlet and a pushy mf is not reason? Ok 😂

[@actuallynotsteve]

100%. Warner's CEO personally backed Punk, and gave Collision on the premise it would be the CM Punk show, give or take. The TV deal expires very very soon and the renewal not getting announced has me wondering if they're going to pass. Imagine Tony losing the TV deal but having Mox and for some reason Brian Cage on 5 year deals. That the Bucks did a victory lap over themselves getting the biggest star AEW has fired, in Chicago, tells you everything you need to know. They'll be back to doing $250 or $500 a night appearances on the indies in no time, nobody cares about the Bucks.

[@KaientaiPepper]

The Biggest AEW star was never CM Flunk, the Biggest AEW like it or hate it is Chris Jericho without Chris Jericho the company would have never succeeded to this point. When it comes to Ratings MJF has moved the needle more then CM Flunk overall. Once the Nostalgia or Novocain wore off from CM Flunks Arrival ratings dropped. The only reason why they went up when he came back after suspension is nostalgia. The man is not as big as draw as people make out. I see people comparing him to Hogan lol Hogan made two promotions… the only thing Cm Flunk has did his whole career was go in business for himself and try to bring promotions that gave him more than he deserved down. The dude is trash and it’s historical to watch fans defend him. He was fired by WWE on his wedding day, His Last Ufc fight found him seeing stars in Chicago and what better place to fire him than Chicago. Straight edge more like straight trash!

[@XSimpleTruthX]

​@KaientaiPepper it's OK to be a Uncle Dave flunkie, we accept you for who you are. The WALRUS of Jericho was a draw in the early stages of the company, but as the days went by, and he became one of the children, spoke of being abducted by aliens and the such, and having blatantly nonsensical performances has lead to a plateau of nothing. The ONLY driving point of ratings and money was Punk... like it or not. The Cucamonga kids, the old bucks, jungle Boi, Kenny "average at best" Omega, are nothing but outlaw mud show rejects. Ask yourself this question.. where are the fans? There are millions of us who simply think this is garbage and refuse to participate in this... a Nerdy mark who never understood the business, who has zero management skills, and the worst creativity I've ever seen... GLOW was better than this cat puke. And people like you praise this delusional charade, like it has merit. It doesn't it's pure unadulterated dog shit. Your opinion is uniformed, and lacks substance.

[@joekuvorkian]

​@@KaientaiPeppernow thats cap. We all respect Jericho but he's not the draw you think he is and AEW 1000 percent would have existed without him. AEW without punk they will take a hit, AEW without Jericho males no difference to their bottom line.

[@actuallynotsteve]

@@KaientaiPepper Oh, Jericho has consistently been the worst part of AEW, or the worst "top talent" in AEW for years now. Nobody does a program with him and ends up in a better place, and he's just cringe as shit. Jericho is fleecing Tony for millions and has him fooled better than anyone. He's playing the ATM Tony game better than anyone else and it's not even close.

[@KaientaiPepper]

@@joekuvorkian Jericho was the first big name at the time bigger than the other when the promotion got off the ground. Chris Jericho is a bigger star than Cm Flunk with 30 year of wrestling and he is a legend compared to punk which is a failed wrestler that makes fan boys cream. MJF is the Biggest Star in Aew his viewer segments prove it! MJF is the biggest draw in AEW but to say Cm punk did better than Jericho for Aew is a Joke. If it wasn’t for Jericho there would have never been a dynamite deal on TNT before they moved it to TBS. Jericho helped AEW, the only thing Cm Flunk did was try to destroy AEW yet it’s still standing!

[@cvjfine]

No, absolutely Not!!!! It was a mistake, but not the biggest. We have to go back to the beginning for the biggest mistake. The biggest mistake was when he let a couple of little boys who jumped up and down on trampolines in barns and backyards all over California, and a guy whose claim to fame is wrestling 12 year old girls, blowup dolls, and who used a finisher called the golden shower, when he let all of them pretend to be executives in his company, that was the worst mistake by far. Those three are executives about as much as I am an f_cking astronaut, they are just like Tony, all playing pretend. Not to mention, it is just a horrible idea to let active wrestlers be executives in any wrestling company. Could you imaging what it would have been like if Hulk hogan was an executive at WCW while he was wrestling.

[@jesuszamora6949]

Hogan having creative control was bad enough! I can't imagine him with an office position.

[@DavidDexterMusic]

The Regal story is not true as there are photos of Punk, Bryan and Regal looking very friendly with each other backstage in AEW.

[@playthehighnote1122]

I think that's from over 10 years ago.

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

Plus Regal quite simply would have chinned Punk. Regal is no softy and definitely would not take that kind of thing from anyone especially not Punk. All the Stories being spread are contradictory, and have a major whiff of mean girls being meanies around it. And spread by a small select few the two biggest examples being Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez.

[@garymck5181]

​@JohnKobaRuddy Yep. Regal would be 'Not f**King tonight, sunshine!'

[@DavidDexterMusic]

@@playthehighnote1122 They were backstage in AEW from the background and you can tell it is the age they are now, they looked younger 10 years ago.

[@DavidDexterMusic]

Yes, Regal wouldn't take that from anyone I don't think without headbutting them in the face.

[@projectgraham414]

I was all aboard the AEW train before Punk even got there, but I'm struggling to care now, because that locker room has shown just how petty and unprofessional they can be. Everything over the last year has been a hit job and now character assassination. It all comes down to the Bucks, and they proved it with their little victory lap stunt after Collision. The whole thing likely cost AEW millions at the bargaining table with their next TV deal

[@ValhallaRaven]

Or it could be that Punk is just an entitled diva. He starts shit all the time and then whines that it’s everyone else’s fault. Punk screwed Punk. It wasn’t some elaborate hit job 😂😂😂 how delusional are you? Punk is a locker room cancer and he did it to himself. None of this has to do with The Elite. He took a swing at TK. In what world would an employee still have a job after taking a swing at their boss? Goddamn Punk fans are so hell bent on making stuff up to defend him. Considering Punk does the same thing..makes stuff up to play the victim..I’m not surprised

[@jamespond863]

Im right there with you, Im in exactly the same boat, Collision is dead and it won't take long til AEW is dead.

[@ned5231]

How is it the bucks fault that punk has no self control?

[@joekuvorkian]

@@ned5231 save it, people that know what they're talking about are talking.

[@TheBronzeArmy]

​@@ned5231this is for the punk marks.

[@benespinosa6725]

Yes because AEW Collison was awesome with him but without him it feels like an extra hour of Rampage.

[@Kr4ShSkeL]

No without him it's a wrestling show with more than 5 people on it so it's much better

[@notgonnapay]

@@Kr4ShSkeL”wrestling show”

[@Kr4ShSkeL]

@@notgonnapay wrestlers in wrestling gear having wrestling matches in a wrestling ring

[@actuallynotsteve]

I actually watched Collision, in full, for about 5 weeks. You could tell the minute he checked out, and now it's just garbage. They gave away MJF vs. Omega and still nobody gave a fuck. It's Rampage Pt. 2, but with Punk it was a TV show that gained viewers without losing any throughout the entire 2 hours.

[@actuallynotsteve]

@@Kr4ShSkeL Yeah, because what the masses want to see is "a couple of random people doing a bunch of moves, that we know nothing about and have no emotional investment in..." THAT is great TV, not a scripted fight based soap opera that makes us really care who wins, who loses, and why they're fighting.

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

The most toxic people in wrestling today are the ones calling everyone else they don't like toxic.

[@leary4701]

Did the “Toxic person” actually draw 150k plus viewers in his initial run? And do the elite appeal at all to former or casual wrestling fans? (As shown with the bucks matches consistently seeing quarter hour drops on dynamite)

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

@@leary4701 I am no fan of modern wrestling and think CM Punk has his fair share of criticism over the years but on this I'm on his side.

[@todd0864]

TK fired the wrong dude.

[@richardsmith9615]

Bucks showed their true colours, the fact they pulled this crap immediately after getting new contracts. Absolute Eunuchs.

[@AceLopez1]

The ratings of this past Collision says it was AEW’s biggest blunder and it may get worse with college football along with WWE and UFC events.

[@jesuszamora6949]

Not sure it can get worse than Rampage numbers.

[@AceLopez1]

@@jesuszamora6949 Oh yeah, I forgot Rampage is still even on TV. I’m surprised it hasn’t been canceled.

[@mr.montana1384]

​@@AceLopez1because you know nothing about ratings

[@AceLopez1]

@@mr.montana1384 I do know that with low ratings, the show isn’t going to last long so I know a lot more than you do.

[@mr.montana1384]

@@AceLopez1 why did WBD give aew a third show then? Why are they constantly touting their #s. Exactly those TV execs know more than you or I do.

[@wonipowa7542]

Huge mistake. Firing your biggest draw to placate the crybabies in your locker room? He needed to get the other wrestlers in order not fire CM Punk. There went any reason I had to watch AEW

[@andrewalcorn]

He physically assaulted people. I don’t care who you are, that can’t fly in todays business

[@ned5231]

He's not a draw, collisions ratings proved that

[@joekuvorkian]

@@ned5231 lol the same comment on everyone's shit? You are a sad mark and punk was hand picked by a Turner executive for Collision. Because he is a draw and was their biggest merchandise mover.

[@joekuvorkian]

@@andrewalcorn don't start shit won't be shit

[@wonipowa7542]

If every wrestler got fired for that half the roster WWE/WCW would have been emptied out @@andrewalcorn

[@taylork7530]

AEW’s biggest mistake? Yes. Tony’s? Debatable. Let’s have a tournament for Tony’s mistakes regarding AEW. There’s a poll for each round. It can be it’s own segment on the podcast and it lasts a month. Idk if firing Punk will win definitively. A LOT of competition.

[@Kr4ShSkeL]

It's not even a mistake to fire him stop being delusionnal fanboyts it's the best decision dude can't stop causing problems wherever he goes

[@DanVillainFilms]

🎶Tony Kahn was a “wrestling promoter”, dum dum dum dum dum🎶

[@777jimothy]

Wow just realised 😮 if Punk says something crazy , Tony won't be able to help himself to not tweet something stupid 😂

[@Am0ment0fB]

Punk should tell his story on Miz TV. Ha.

[@claymathewselevator8121]

Miz gives him another lie detector like the last time he was on MizTV 😂

[@bigorange2082]

The fact it’s 4-5 months later and AEW is still blaming all its problems on Punk is hilarious. 😂

[@shagdad76]

Regal was the one who advised Terror Rising aka HHH, to go to WWE so he can get more in ring time. And it lead to becoming a star, championships, him meeting his wife Stephanie, to Paul becoming a boss.

[@Matt-cr4vv]

That’s true he did but even more than that he was a long term mentor that treated him well and taught him how to handle himself when he was basically fresh to the business. As for the encouraging him to go to the WWF that is true but he was already leaning that way already because he felt that the WWF had the proven track record of creating new stars compared to WCW and of course the having more chances to work to get better. But he also wasn’t walking away from a big offer from WCW anyways. I think Triple H has spoken on his contract with WCW and that his first one was in the $60K range for a year and that he asked for it to only be a year long because he was going to make so little that after a year he’d either be worth a better deal or both sides would know it was best for him to move on. And Bischoff has spoken on not making much of an offer to him because they were actively working to cut down their costs and since he lived in the New England area they weren’t going to use him as much because of the cost of flying him in when there were local guys who could drive available. So I’m sure that Regal encouraging him to make his jump influenced what he chose but at the same time I don’t think it was a super hard choice to bet on yourself without a guarantee in the WWF when your WCW guarantee is peanuts. Regal didn’t go with him because he had a healthy guarantee contract that made him decide to stay. HHH took a gamble but he wasn’t really risking much on the other side anyways either in full fairness

[@RationalGaze.BingChillin]

Nope. Fumbling Cody Rhodes was their biggest mistake but ruining CM punk’s return to wrestling is a very close second. Both are S TIER MISTAKES that make Goldberg punching the limo window look like Jericho’s WWE DEBUT.

[@ripman21]

Cody kinda wasn't getting any traction there....AEW signing CM Punk was tue misfire that pushed Cody out the door.

[@adamcummings4060]

None of this happens if cody is still there. Its pretty obvious at this point why cody left aew. Cody, like punk, was trying to do something special and serious and everyone else just wants to do an indy show on tv. These people and their fans have thought for years they were the majority of wrestling fans because they were innthe internet bubble of love and they thought if we could just get a tv deal our style of wrestling would blow wwe away and ignite a new golden age. They said to themselves everyone loves us, they tell us everyday on the internet. What they found out is they have 880 thousand total fanboy virgins who love them and rhe other 8 million possible wrestling dont care or dont like them at all. This happens a lot to niche things since the internet became thing when they try to go main stream.

[@jayw.1042]

This pod is a breath of fresh air finally some guys who don’t cuck for the TYB and their shenanigans. Auto subbed

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

It's sad to see Nash and Oliver and solomonster and all the rest just sucking up. Don't be surprised if they got a monetary incentive to be this way.

[@ripman21]

Yeah if you've been riding behind a garbage truck on your way to a paper mill.

[@Kr4ShSkeL]

They're as bad as cornette but with less viewers

[@haiasieel6099]

CornetteXPunk would go down as the greatest Shoot Interview of all time. Im sure Tony and the Friendship crew is probably trying to block that with lawsuits this minute. If Punk does it with Helwani, you can guarantee that he is WWE bound. Because thats the safer route with Ariel being good in the eyes of WWE corporate.

[@johnfalcetta5431]

It's hilarious that Bischoff Russo and Cornette are all in agreement that tony Khan is a 😺

[@johnstorm9314]

Someday people will look back at this incident as the beginning of the end for AEW.

[@imfreviews]

Whoever is talking about this Regal thing now HAS AN AGENDA

[@jesuszamora6949]

So just most of the wrestling media, aside from Corny, Wrestling Soup and maybe PWInsider.

[@imfreviews]

@@jesuszamora6949 I should have said "whoever is leaking this information". I had a poor choice of words.

[@jesuszamora6949]

@@imfreviews Still works. The bucks feed their media stooges, and the media stooges regurgitate the propaganda.

[@MassMoneyTrades]

Keep up the lords work.

[@stephenvieting]

Imagine punk showing up at a man city arsenal or Chelsea game vs shad’s team and punk getting tv time saying so glad to be welcomed to x stadium by such and such owner impressed by the professionalism they picked me up at the airport rinse and repeat with Jacksonville Jaguars maybe at a colts game since Indy is close to chitown and they place each other twice a year

[@ned5231]

Imagine thinking the people who run Chelsea or Arsenal have any idea who cm phil is lmao

[@stephenvieting]

@@ned5231 EPL is on peacock

[@neilbiggs1353]

@@ned5231 Imagine being unaware that Arsenal have played Kurt Angle's theme in the stadium at times on matchday... They know plenty about real wrestling companies!

[@ned5231]

@@stephenvieting and?

[@ned5231]

@@neilbiggs1353 so because they played someone else's song at a game (someone much more well known to non wrestling fans due to the attitude era and winning an Olympic gold medal) you think that they must know who cm phil is and will be keen to give air time to petty backstage wrestling drama? Lmao you're delusional

[@karlm641]

Mish predicted the Helwani interview... SO satisfying seeing how everyone is right about Tony and this company that had so much potential but has been ruined by a money mark who cant delegate or make tough decisions

[@anthonysoto2923]

Firing CM Punk is one of the only right things that company has done. Fact.

[@catnip8896]

Got a comedian here. 😂😂

[@RubyDiamond2316]

Comparing the Elite to the Care Bears is an insult to Care Bears lol

[@Mr.Hopper1]

He doesn't even have to have the title. Remember the bag? All he needs is the bag to throw in the trash, LOL. Biggest pop in modern WWE history. :)

[@CoffeeStain-Music]

The Elite are a bunch of babies and unfortunately, they met their match with CM Punk. 😆

[@JSmith-dj2pi]

Calling this a full blown autistic wrestling company is the most accurate description I've ever heard for thus company.

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

Autistic company ADHD fans

[@jorgebatista4815]

Tony is goin to cry to his mom when he listened to this. 🤣

[@APG103House]

I would love to see if they treat Brock Lesner like they did CM Punk

[@alexisnaranjo]

Tony giving Foxcatcher vibes

[@imfreviews]

I am going to refer to it as Care Bear Wrestling from now on

[@Chthonian121]

I honestly think Punk will be back next month. There is no way they are this stupid to let Punk go. Punk is 45 years old and still the biggest draw on the entire show after not wrestling for 9 years. They are not this stupid to let Punk go back to the WWE. Especially after Cody. I refuse to believe AEW is this brain dead. Either way I will not be watching AEW until Punk is back.

[@christerry1611]

Yeah I think this is about to age very poorly

[@bradburke8232]

10:50 You forgot to add "Got in Jeff Hardy's face to take the keys away from a drunk Jeff Hardy" lol. I don't know if you've noticed but all the backstage incident reports that came out after the first one last year always say Punk "got in *fill in the blank's* face" which indicates to me it was likely the same person and/or people feeding these stories to these dirt sheet jackoffs. How ironic is the fact that one of the Young Bucks' catch phrases is "Killin' the Business" and just as quickly as an alternative to WWE began, the same assholes who take credit for starting the company every chance they get to tell someone about it (as if it was them and not their billionaire mark "friend") will possibly be the same ones who killed it when the dust settles entirely over their own vindictiveness and jealousy. There's no substitute for star power when you're trying to build and grow a big national promotion with a desirable broadcasting network. Not only does not having Punk hurt AEW by default but if he goes to WWE and generates tons of buzz making WWE all the talk in wrestling, the only thing that made that possible was the Young Bucks and their influence on a glorified mark with a lot of money that calls himself a promotor. With friends like that, Tony Khan certainly doesn't need any enemies.

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

When he stopped Jeff they probably thought he was ruining his buzz and his creativity.

[@dennisclarke6456]

Ive been provoked at my job.. I’ve also known that no matter what, I WILL BE FIRED IF I RETALIATED AGAINST THAT CO WORKER INFRONT OF MY BOSS.. we’re grown folks and we have self control.. I don’t give a shit if AEW sinks or swims BUT we all have to be adults in handling people .. even if they deserve a punch in the face.. in the hood, what CM Punk did was what we like to call “FUCKED UP THE BAG”… I CANT feel sorry for him.. they gave him his own show for fuck sakes lol

[@wonipowa7542]

Your job is not a wrestling locker room. This is EXTREMELY COMMON in wresting and professional sports. You usually just make guys talk it out, you don't fire your top star over it.

[@ripman21]

​@@wonipowa7542you do if they have a habit of f'ing it up. CM Punk is in his 40's and like a drunk 20 year old.

[@dennisclarke6456]

@@wonipowa7542 it’s 2023.. also he’s already been on his last warning since last years fight.. AEW might have different standards against locker room altercations

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

Worked on building sites, seen many fights on them, and people just get on with it once everyone's calmed there passions. Must live a sheltered life and with you being a All Effete Wrestling fan I think may be correct in my assumption.

[@dennisclarke6456]

@@JohnKobaRuddy grew up poor and black in the south Bronx..Surrounded by gangs and violence my whole life.. grew up, moved out and matured as an adult knowing that no matter the situation, solving things with fighting never proves anything.. also, I DONT watch AEW.. I get pussy… just so we’re clear..

[@user-ni2km1eu1c]

To be honest...Tony, Bucks, Perry, and CM Punk are all at fault. I do not believe losing one wrestler in CM Punk will cause AEW to go under. Its time for then to start building more for the future. But hopefully, this should be a learning experience for Tony Khan though.

[@neilbiggs1353]

AEW can't 'go under' as they are a vanity project, not a business. At the same time, their losses are considerably less than Fulham's so if the Khans start to ditch their sports companies, I would maybe think that Fulham would be the first to go

[@christerry1611]

Punk wanted to be fired. The moment he showed up backstage at Raw in April should have been a huge clue.

[@WRESTLINGSOUP2010]

Can’t say I blame him.

[@christerry1611]

@@WRESTLINGSOUP2010 Shit...me either. I think he fits in better in WWE and can't wait to see him back soon contrary to what the idiot dirtsheets say.

[@THERCWRSHOW]

So much accountability to go all around with everyone involved. I'll tell you this ans that's after that speech Tony Khan gave to the live crowd, hw needs to have someone do all that dirty work from here on out, be the poster child for that. Four years later and he still struggles to speak? With all that access to talent too. He's gotta use those resources available to him to get even better.

[@rodneypernell4903]

The best thing AEW did since they hired him

[@777jimothy]

Jon complaining about being hugged tip to tip , sounds so much like Larry David 😂

[@bb-gc2tx]

guys like the bucks and hangman signed long term aew because they know they would be nothing more than mid carders in wwe especially hangman that clown would be an absolute zero in wwe

[@jonathanjones6984]

Spot on 🎉

[@richardsmith9615]

This was hilarious, thanks for offering some actual perspective fellas.

[@juliusrage1987]

Letting the edible do its work...i been there bro 😅

[@claymathewselevator8121]

William Regal once ended up in an Alaska jail cell not knowing how he got there

[@actuallynotsteve]

Hell yeah dude

[@jorgebatista4815]

I’m I the only one see that the AEW roster is playin Tony cause he got money.

[@jesuszamora6949]

Bro, everyone sees it. There's a reason he's called Jacksonville Dixie.

[@wingedhussar1453]

It's a money making scheme .this all started because elite jobbers tried to get their friend on Tony khans millions colt cabana and punk came in then he was supposbly fired or moved to not cause conflict. The elite jobber friends couldn't take their friend not screwing over the boss so tried to screw off cm punks run

[@Matt-cr4vv]

I wouldn’t say that firing him was their biggest mistake as much as Tony being such an inept leader of his company that he never put his foot down in the very early stages where you could see the potential for some conflict brewing and how it genuinely may have been avoidable with competent leadership stepping in and sniffing those issues out before they develop into much bigger issues that grow to such extremes that Tony no longer has a choice about taking action in a scenario where it has likely grown from being a run of the mill conflict to growing into a ln extreme issue. Just imagine how things could have possibly ended up if st the start of the Cobana stuff TK has stepped in right away to say the rumor was inaccurate and to right again those rumors being spread but instead didn’t take any action to do that and let it continue to grow to the extent that it grew into the explosion that occurred. Nobody was innocent in this thing but if Tony had stepped up and been strong in his conviction and leadership one truly has to ponder how these events would have played out in the end if Tony steps up and fights away the negativity or at the minimum Punk at least sees the efforts me being made to defend his name and feels support and how that may have affected the frustration and anger that built up in punk and resulted in him spewing out the negativity he felt at that point in time. Maybe it happens either way and Punk blows up about something in the end but have to wonder a tiny bit that if the issues that Punk was having has been acknowledge and addressed by his superior (Tony) what reaction we’d have experience from him. I feel like I read something that a lot of what made Punk so upset by the time the scrum went down because he had reported things that he was having issue with that didn’t get adequately addressed. So I will always wonder how things would’ve turned out had Tony taken the leadership steps he needed to take and sniffed out the rumors and issues from the jump and if that may have led to the explosion never happening in the first place. I tend to think that he’d have always found something to explode about eventually down the line but will still have to wonder how everything pans out if handled better.

[@crushthecrusher7134]

Yea is fun weekend of wrestling

[@kenterminateddq5311]

AEW should've fired Jack Perry since he assaulted Punk first.

[@andrewalcorn]

That’s blatantly false. Multiple witnesses, including the boss as well as multiple cameras

[@jaredgarrison333]

Now your just lying to yourself to make yourself feel better.

[@antoniusjohnson3824]

SRS & Meltzer said Punk put his hands on Jack Perry first.

[@joekuvorkian]

​@@andrewalcornthat doesn't mean anything you can get in legal trouble for winning a fight too hard. All reports said Jungle Boy pushed punk first.

[@joekuvorkian]

​@@antoniusjohnson3824yeah srs and Meltzer, meaning those reports mean less than nothing

[@jordank5328]

I also thought Regal didn't really want to be on TV. I mean, I'm sure he did stooge for Triple H after his return but idk why he would've stayed in AEW if he didn't have to

[@bluntamainia444]

Another one bites the dust, AEW had so much potential and they became the opposite of that potential by choice

[@ingotants3809]

This is the second time i ever listened to you Guys and it is scary how much i agree with everything you say.😂😂😂👍

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

Anyone else wish South Park would do an episode on AEW?

[@hudstad]

Dam Mish constantly sucking off Punk. Yeah TK and the Elite are terrible but Punk has to be responsible for his own actions. They had to get rid of him after this latest incident. Can't keep a liability on payroll like that considering his wrestling was under par and he looks terrible. Never forget when Mish had a meltdown on breakfast soup. Shit was hilarious

[@joen6894]

Cry.

[@Type1DomoGuy]

😂😂😂 You guys are awesome. Like your take.

[@jamesj760]

Autism Elite Wrestling

[@Type1DomoGuy]

They couldnt patch this up and just work stuff out?

[@noamilan5950]

Cm punk wasn't just Thier biggest star he was the only one who had the power there to produce a good consistent wrestling show even if it was just for a month or something

[@TheChadTI]

24:22 Push him into the cornfield Tony 😅😅😅

[@TheChadTI]

14:43 THIS and it's so obvious.

[@michaelsmiley15]

The company was better off when they were in the Tampa theater in Florida because they all had something to fight for and they really put a lot of effort into it and now it's about a lot of stupidity you look at the Young bucks and they're change which is stupid you look at Chris Jericho's lack of involvement recently Tony Khan since the beginning has ran the company from a fan perspective he needs to run the company for a business perspective he doesn't know what he's doing and this is just another incident of a lack of experience

[@steviemacc2745]

Kenny DOES look like Lily Tomlin🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💯

[@Valcross1776]

AEW messed up bad

[@repmorgan4078]

subscribed

[@joshuastruggs1307]

No, it isn't. What Punk's stans need to understand that while Punk wasn't the one who usually started things, he didn't end them and made them far worse than they needed to be and also publicly. So many times things could have been settled if Punk ignored them because people either didn't know or even care about what was gonna on or said until Punk drew attention it and got people talking and just made things worse than need to be. So yeah, he needed to go out of everybody. What was their biggest mistake is letting things get so outta hand that you have fire your biggest star.

[@joen6894]

That was some very well thought out victim blaming.

[@joshuastruggs1307]

@@joen6894, More like holding someone accountable for their actions. Something you Punk fanboys are so hellbent on not doing.

[@joen6894]

@@joshuastruggs1307 is that everyone being held accountable or just the people you yourself like?

[@joshuastruggs1307]

@@joen6894 Yes, I believe everyone have should been accountable. Like I think the elite stripped of their EVP after their brawl out and if it turns they were the leaking the rumors about Punk, they should be fired.

[@joen6894]

@@joshuastruggs1307 you’re correct, the young bucks, alongside Jack Perry, should have been fired for harassing and instigating issues with the companies top draw and earner. Until that happens, it’s won’t, I’ll side with the person who was in fact given the brunt of the punishment.

[@ripman21]

Did they have on knee pads when making this? CM Punk meat flute orchestra is real.

[@joen6894]

Don’t be jealous that you couldn’t find three grown men to say a nice thing about you.

[@planexshifter]

I’m sure never gonna watch a single program or buy any of their merch.

[@Steph2Chill]

12:30 10:35

[@williamnimbach6419]

I'll prolly never watch aew again unless something really big happens. Before cm punk came in I didn't even know aew existed. Once I saw him debut there I started watching the show.

[@ripman21]

I cannot help but to detect at least one lie in your comment🤔

[@jamesj760]

The best cocaine and adderall in the world won’t help TK book himself out of this mess.

[@claymathewselevator8121]

Playing golf with Paul soon 🤣

[@monsterbrandman]

Rogan has trashed CM Punk before so I don't think he will show up on his show.

[@Hydrograd57]

Jungle Boy was an idiot for that comment Punk was an idiot for overreacting and physically assaulting him Both were wrong, but Punk did it to himself 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

He fell for the bait and still gets a tonne of money out of it

[@branhasyoutube]

I don't know about anyone else but I get some serious Team Foxcatcher/John DuPont vibes from Tony Khan and AEW #IYKYK

[@williamnimbach6419]

Collision was a great show meanwhile dynamite has been awful!! Cm punk was right!!

[@jaylong4705]

Aubrey wirh a monocle 😂😂

[@billythekid22220]

They have no big storyline anymore. There’s absolutely no reason to watch the shows

[@ericw48]

*hiring

[@andreadams8004]

I’m dead😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@MercedesVarnado-bu3sz]

I know the truth about Mercedes Justine kastner varnado AK Sasha Banks she is not married to Sarah ton they are just friends with each other I know her personally she has been lying about it

[@dennisclarke6456]

Ps, I always wonder what Solomonster thinks about his group always getting shitted on by Wrestling Soup .. does he ever address this?? Lol

[@merlotwilliams]

It's a difference of opinion with no malice I think. Solomonster works in PR so he's looking at it from a corporate angle. I don't think there is any Animus between any of the parties.

[@NickRaymond871]

Jungle Jihad?

[@DolFunTheDolhpinVtuber]

No it was the best thing they could have done. As Don Callis says, you cut out the cancer.

[@jesuszamora6949]

Like Impact did with Mr. Scarlet Fever?

[@archeign7769]

Lol this cancer analogy is so stupid. CM Punk being gone just makes this company worse. They will never grow. Besides, the real "cancer" is in the name of the company.

[@JoeyT1]

Not a blunder at all. Punk truly is a locker room cancer. Who will want to come to AEW if the word going around is that the locker room moral will be poor. Punk can infect another promotion. Good riddance.

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

What did he do that upset you in AEW that made him a cancer?

[@JoeyT1]

@@JohnKobaRuddy He didn't do anything to me but look at what's he's done in AEW. Have you not been following? Did you not hear or read of the lockerroom brawl that he started? Did you not hear or read or his scuffle with Perry? Or going after Tony Khan? You really need to ask that question?

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

​@@JoeyT1locker room brawl he started? After page shot on hin on live TV so he called them kids. He was right. They went looking for a fight on his room and he beat them all up. Cos he so weak.

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

​​​@@JoeyT1scuffle with Perry? After punk tried to stop him seriously injuring himself or others! Cry me a river. Plus he mouthed off on live TV too to punk. Seems like they can say things on live TV he can't say anything during a faked press scrum. Plus a headlock isn't a scuffle. It's beyond too easy to tell you're middle class you're scared of confrontation and have never been in a fight in your entire life.

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

​​@@JoeyT1going after Tiny Khan't? You believe that tale do you? Took how long for Dave Meltzer to make that up? That he went for his boss who then allowed him to stay, wrestle, win the belt and hang around the building cos he was so scared. You're a grown man but deep inside you're a 14 year old girl gossiping in the toilets and knowing you're creating lies about people but you're toxic so you don't care.

[@michaelsmiley15]

I really don't know that there's anyone in WWE F whatever you want to call it that CM punk got along with I don't because he for the longest time did not like and he's not alone other people have said it the fact that you are a puppet your being controlled by storylines and stupidity and you can't really kind of do what you want so he left that company for that primary reason

[@b-rye223]

Everything said in this video is exactly how I feel about everything lol

[@ripman21]

It's called an echo chamber and confirmation bias🤡

[@cmporkchop4575]

AEW is now a BS wrestling show

[@NoelComiX]

In answer to the thumbnail. No. He’s delusional and self centered.