Was I too harsh on Dragon Age Veilguard & Bioware? - Toxicity in Gaming Industry

[@TheDezembro]

Hey ya'll, thanks for watching! Please, again, a reminder, don't throw hate & be harsh on the Indie Dev, he was respectfully presenting his point of view as a Dev and I presented mine as a customer. We're both two sides of the same Games Industry coin, and there is no need for hostility when none is warranted. Also follow me on X if you haven't yet for updates and the occasional meme or screenshot (I promise to post more!) - x.com/TheDezembro

[@marconeves1979]

Check out the SkillUp and Mr. Matty Plays reviews. Two long (40 mins or so) comprehensive reviews that actually review the content of Veilguard properly and in-depth.

[@rickyd2004]

He, apparently, considers criticism an attack, so it's impossible to say anything if we can't be harsh lol. Oh well. Toxic positivity only.

[@skibidi.G]

❤

[@matthewcarroll2533]

Nah i'll go hate on him, k thanks. It's our right, after all as consumers and it's YOUR right to speak your opinion on anything you create - including your damn videos. Ignore these morons trying to "call you out" if we can even call it that. *edit* Also thank you for putting Jeremy Soule's music in your video!

[@K.R.98]

I extremely love your content ❤😂🥳🍺👍

[@johndodo2062]

Totally agree. We need to gatekeep like we never have before. We tried being nice and they've destroyed the industry

[@Grobut81]

Set mode + None! Shall! Pass!!!

[@definitelynotadam]

It's not "your" or "our" industry my dude, most of those companies are in hands of corporate profit margin interests, and only lack of those profit margins will ever convince corporate hacks to change their course. Atm a lot of modern game studios are an equivalent of sport car manufacturers deciding to produce cars only in hot pink and unable to reach speeds over 70 mph.

[@KriZPify]

@@definitelynotadamit is ours tho. Indie devs keep pumping out gold.

[@yurikendal4868]

It seems to be an issues nation wide in the usa that powerful leaders demand we take their crap no matter where we walk. Even in our political sphere or leadership demands we take their abuse and like it and stand behind their baleful ideologies if we tell them NO. We cant even vote them out because they run the scenes in or out of office.

[@Hobopaladin]

Its not my job as a customer to fix their awful priorities and awful products. Thats THEIR responsibility. And...Its not my job as a customer to pay for THEIR mistakes...i think you know where im going with this. Its really that simple.

[@vergillives9890]

Indeed i show up to work everyday i don't get paid for existing and neither do they-

[@randomcenturion7264]

We were not too harsh on Andromeda. We were not too harsh on the Saints Row Reboot. We were not too harsh on Concord and Dustborn. We are not too harsh on this steaming pile of donkey shite. They have been peddling slop for over a decade, and we have every right to call them out for it.

[@justcast1429]

Don't ask questions just consume more product

[@pardontheopinion8679]

@@justcast1429 And get excited for next product

[@frustratedsquirrel]

oh come now, people were absolutely tearing all of those games to shreds. When Andromeda dropped, 'my face is tired' was all over social media for months.

[@Revenant-oq9ts]

Too. Come on man, edit it. It hurts my eyes.

[@pardontheopinion8679]

@@frustratedsquirrel And you think its so different with vielguard? Its not even out yet, so we don't know how bad it will get

[@MeltonCrest]

I'm not even entertaining this nonsense, they had over 10 years to listen and all we've ever gotten were insults. Stop trying to portrait the perpetrators as victims.

[@nickbriggs8059]

Exactly! They are text book cases of narcissism and gas lighting. Like word for fkn word. The audacity of them to cry victim and sling insult after insult is mind boggling. These weirdos are a dying breed as their lifestyle is literally unsustainable for natural reasons. It’s taking awhile but they are all falling to the bottom of the industry exactly where they belong. Not because they live in a world of make believe per se but because THEY SUCK AT THEIR JOBS. COMPLAINING IS ALL THEY KNOW HOW TO DO.

[@EggEnjoyer]

Why do game devs need to be coddled? Like no one else who produces anything is told that they need to be spoken to softly. Even the film industry isn’t this soft. Yet I need to gently convince the devs to make a product I’ll actually pay for? Nah bring on the layoffs lol

[@SugarP576]

They forget consumers are the ones who pay their bills, if they make a product we consumers don't like, their effort means nothing, they have to adapt and make a product we do wish to purchase. Devs that cry about how hard it is to do their job need to understand this or find a new profession. Blaming the consumer for your faults will always fail.

[@vergillives9890]

Indeed all coddling and telling them they did a great job

[@vergillives9890]

Indeed all coddling and telling them they did a great job-

[@khangho4167]

They are too used to the "toxic positivity" at their workplace that it became their reality. They got praised and back pat for just being gay/lesbian or just claim to be "binary". In any other industry if you're bad at your job, you get fired, but in the gaming development scene, people have to "feel bad" for them. P/s: I used to be a game dev, now working as a mobile app developer, no one should feel bad for people losing their job because they were incompetent.

[@troyl200]

The answer is easy. It's time to play old games.

[@adi6293]

Diablo 2, StarCraft, Heroes of Migh and Magic 3 😎😎

[@zapakitul]

Oh you have no idea how annoyed some execs are that older games get the most play time 😂. Sat on one too many beers around people advocating for de-listing older games because they are “unfair competition”. So… keep at it

[@Tuzikat]

Almost time for the yearly playthrough of New Vegas?

[@themagalanium9491]

​@@Tuzikatcurrently doing an unarmed only build. the Mojave fears the thousand fists of Kensheera

[@adi6293]

@@zapakitul They could try but as soon as some games start disappearing from peoples libraries things won't go their way at all

[@Arkadiaraven]

Firewalk creator of concord got shutdown,they would rather kill studios than cater to gamers Do not waiver these people are mentally unwell they will resort to derogatory tactics, don't allow yourself to be demoralised keep supporting games that put quality fun and you first instead of their activism.

[@kada0420]

We gotta stand our ground

[@swaeshow]

Of course a "developer" is going to get mad at harsh cticism instead of learn from it and get better. Devs aren't listening. That's on them. Instead they just get angry, insult and throw around their BS agenda's. This is why no one is buying your games and your losing jobs.

[@EggEnjoyer]

He’s an indie dev. The devs who work at these large companies actually agree that things have gotten out of hand. The indie dev is major parroting the narrative of crazy people from within the industry. There’s a woman who was a project manager at Xbox, really high profile and older woman and she has a KZbin channel where perfectly explains why these modern games are trash. That indie devs doesn’t have more insight than the woman who helped launch Xbox live and gears of war.

[@cezarysudol]

Modern day devs, you mean. Ten years ago they still would got angry, but would take criticism to heart, though not often. On other thought , make it 20 years ago ha, ha.

[@boblionia]

Stop blaming the developer for the publisher's decisions. Aiming at the wrong people is exactly how EA has been doing this for 15 years uncontested.

[@KairiKey989]

@@EggEnjoyer Mind dropping her channel name? Would be interested in watching her channel. My mother works as a project manager, although not for the game industry, but in other industries, and she tells me about the nonsense she sees going on now. So I can believe it.

[@MeltonCrest]

@@boblionia You're delusional if you fall for this "it's all the execs fault" grift coming form people like Act Ma'am it's complete and utter bs. Developers are out there every single day insulting consumers for the past decade and bragging about how they do all these things to "own chuds". Only a complete idiot would think that execs, the people who care only about making money, would intentionally antagonize their customer base, they too are being lied to.

[@TheGamernews1]

wrote a comment in the community tab but it really bears repeating I find it weird that in the gaming industry having criticism on a product is seen as personal attack and even say it’s the audience itself that’s the problem. I have never seen any industry do this type of behaviour that is also encouraged. Find it quite unprofessional at best downright deplorable at worst. Your selling a product. I’m not your friend and your not giving games for free. It’s a $70 game that many people work very hard to earn.

[@SLRModShop]

They took over our hobby, turned it into a $75 political pamphlet, and they expected us to say "thank you" on top of that. And yes, they are extremely unprofessional but don't worry, with so many studios failing and with the cause (wokeness) being so easily identifiable, those guys won't just lose their job, they'll outright lose their career. They just caused the AAA gaming industry to lose tens of billions of dollars of potential profit in the past decade. All of those devs are Plutonium now.

[@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2]

@@SLRModShop Amen well said.

[@Tiasung]

Its not weird. They do it so they can keep selling substandard or down right bad products. Its the equivalent of gaslighting buyers of grocers who complain about rotten food, so you can keep selling leftover food that was in fact rotten and worthless.

[@Tiasung]

Also, most industries do it at this point. (the same rotten ideology infests them) Its most obvious in the movie industry.

[@nickbriggs8059]

@@Tiasung yeah they got their claws in the movie industry as well and boy are they paying the price for siding w these weirdos.

[@Kat1kafka]

I still believe gatekeeping,voting with your wallets, and patience will fix this

[@jimmythecrow]

lol.

[@lambofields1913]

The first two is fine. the 3rd one... well, we actually give them too much of it. We need LESS of that. We are customers. That is THEIR responsibility. And...Its not our job as a customers to pay for THEIR mistakes.

[@jnoirj3124]

Gatekeeping is damn near impossible with the internet. People can flood into your hobbies by the thousands and there is no way to know who is a shitter and who isn't until they play their hand. Gatekeeping is only useful for small niche hobbies, with very little exposure to normies.

[@marccreation1052]

The people who created the games we love are not at BioWare anymore, so the relationship analogy doesn' t work. What' s left can burn...

[@Squigglydipladocus]

Did that dev even watch your vid. The burden of making the game better isnt on the consumer. He's just deflecting criticism

[@nicknevco215]

That was a dev well this game is dead

[@HerrSchloingl]

I remember when this whole thing about inclusivity, representation, feminism, gay rights etc. started. It was kinda "yeah, lets be a bit more tolerant", "this won't hurt".... but oh boy were we wrong. I was stunned, when devs and artists started calling fans "bigots" and "racists" etc. like they just finished sociology class in highschool. I kinda expected measured and intelligent storytelling about tolerance like in (for example) the Star Trek-TNG of old, but intstead we get completely unhinged fringe craziness. And they actually get upset when its rejected as too extreme, and it tanks hard. The decoupling from reality is shocking to say the least.

[@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2]

Like narcissist and psychopaths does. They turn your kind heart, understanding, cooperation, heck they turn your best qualities against you. Basic modus operando.

[@m1ndfields33]

I've personally been ALWAYS against this shit because the way I learned about it was when gamergate when down and Feminist Frequency popped up. That's when I knew something was wrong.. I just wish more were like me, but so many accepted it and let these weirdo's take-over. And now look at the mess we are in.

[@neolynxer]

I'm an Indie Dev too, also a fan of those old Bioware games, like Mass Effect. This is not the first, not the second and not the third bad "BioWare" game of late. It's not the same Bioware, and we all know that. They are making bad decisions for over a decade now (since mass effect 3 ending) and not making changes to anything they do. This "BioWare", this management and "creative team", deserves to not be viable. They proved they are not interested in pleasing the audience. They want to lecture them. So they deserve to loose a lot of money and to be disbanded and closed. Game Dev industry as a whole will not be worse because of it, it will become better. Selection is inevitable and it's good.

[@johndodo2062]

I would say most of the money was embezzled by executives. Not uncommon for the higher ups to get 20 million dollar bonuses after a game ships. Even if it's broken and flops. That money right there could have fixed the game they just released broken

[@caseylascallette7269]

I cant wait to see the articles about how gave devs are getting laid off by the thousands... And how unfair that is... And how the "toxic" gamers are to blame... You know what? I dont mind taking credit this time

[@Left4Coragem]

Companies cannot live in ESG grants, Concord was a massive hit to sony. All the gamers can do it to continue to not buy it and instead buy good games, indie games, double A games, whatever else isn't trying to use game as a soup box to preach to the audience. These things take time to happen, sony, microsoft, CDPR, they are huge companies and can eat many blows before falling, but they do fall. Redfall studio is no longer. Firewalk studio is no longer. Ubisoft might be the next one to go.

[@ArantyrDarkhand]

Yep we identify has non- BUYnary its the way to fix this sh i tsh ow.

[@cezarysudol]

and BioWere probably will follow too, hopefully trailed closey by that monster EA (one can dream)

[@chrisadamec900]

I believe that this toxic relationship has A LOT to do with the end of live in person conventions and shows like E3. There is no personal connection between the devs and the gamers and now it is only online. This is a big issue.

[@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2]

And instead of having a team leader, they build games by "committee" now to not offend anyone. Only a firm leader, on the tyrannical side, can sustain a creative idea to it's completion. And let's be honest, mainly men can survive that type of environment, and manly men play those games. Men devs for men players, like it was before, is certainly part of the solution.

[@smithynoir9980]

Commenting this bit in it's own since it may be deleted: Anyone that needs to see themselves in the games they play are pathetic. Reasonable people do not need to see ourselves in the stories and media we consume, we see the stories for what they are, stories about other people or characters, and despite this we find connection because the experience is what matters. The only people that can't accept this, and haven't already realized this, are sad, depressed, pointless people that need help to be fixed and to get better, not catered too and told they are perfect already.

[@Kelly-np2xq]

Also it's possible to see yourself in media without the characters being the same race and gender as you IF it's well written I watched penguin the other night I'm not white and female and unfortunately not a genius mobster lol but the story with him and what happening to his mom hits really close right now I see myself in that because it's a story that has layers and is developed well just make good storys and fun games well buy them

[@fenrir607]

You see, we've tried being nice. We tried giving nice constructive criticism, and they laughed in our faces and called us names. Now heads need to roll, and no one cares about the poor, poor developers.

[@randomcenturion7264]

"Nice" left town a long, long time ago. They wanna call us assholes? Fine. We'll be assholes.

[@MuraCasardis]

Short answer: no you weren't too harsh, and you still aren't.

[@nocturne6362]

I think Dragon Age drama is“the last drop in the cup” destroying one of best PC RPG series, distorting Lore, power of choice and roleplay for greed and hidden agendas. Sacrificing there true hardcore fans in the process.

[@Patricia-x4g]

So true, so so true! ✨ This series had the potential to be iconic & generational. 📯🗡️ Now it will turn to dust ~ ashes to ashes. Shall be talked about of what could’ve been…what a sheer waste.🗑️

[@superspreaders1]

Have any of the creators who've criticised you been able to show you the ever-increasing number of videos they made over the last 10 years, complaining about the "unhelpful" and "mean" tone of far-left developer activists as they took over the industry and started villifying their customers with the most horrible slander and bullying? It's only when normal people stand up and start getting pissed off (because they've been ignored and bullied for years) that we start to hear about "bullying" and how the tone" of the discussion is getting "dangerous". Don't change a thing, man. We're a small Canadian (usually politics) podcast that got attention from covering the Freedom Convoy, but I'm increasingly covering gaming as the industry goes through its own Convoy moment. We have to stay angry and demand that we are listened to-if we ever hope to have good games again.

[@tigger4000]

You wouldn't believe some of the horrible things Veilguard 'fans' have called me over the last couple of days 😢

[@victoroliveira3577]

Did they call you transphobic?

[@beaucameron8025]

I'm not buying the game because of the ideology in it. I won't fund their propaganda.

[@nikkitrabucho2534]

lol… propaganda? What a tiny mind you must have

[@beaucameron8025]

@nikkitrabucho2534 no, I'm just a red blooded male that's over all this woke bs creeping into my break from reality. I play video games to get away from the world and I don't want this bs in a dark fantasy game.

[@RedWolfenstein]

@@nikkitrabucho2534 And you're mind is measured in nanometers. You either don't see it because you refuse to or because you agree with it. Everything at the end of the day has some degree of ideology. The games of the past were just for the demographic of white straight guys with a moderate American mindset which are the vast majority of gamers in the West. These games are made for like 5% of the population.

[@RedWolfenstein]

Hell yes brother, these people are deranged.

[@nikkitrabucho2534]

@@RedWolfenstein So why not get rid of all the black people, or have women portrait as nothing as than housewives? Just because there are more straight white guys, that doesn't mean all the rest should get left behind. Or maybe, just maybe. They should just make a game that they want to make. You are entitled to nothing. Welcome to my world

[@oddbjrnvrebe6752]

No, infact you werent harsh enough!

[@Castigar48]

We all need to mock these modern audience games harder and laugh louder

[@Cheerful_Bliss]

The guy had the intent all mixed up, your original response was a reply to a game dev demonizing OG dragon age fans. In no way have you come off as toxic I feel like it was just this game veiled attempt to try to change your opinion you hold.

[@robcampion9917]

According to Newton's third law “Every action has an equal and opposite reaction”, if you throw stones don't be surprised if someone picks some up and throws them back.

[@s13dorifta]

It's simple. You want my money? Make something that I want to give you my money. This woke shit ain't it.

[@dirimi6352]

I feel like Twitter is just a completely different world hence why hate is acceptable there but on youtube we need to be polite and civil.

[@skyrimisforthenords8312]

The relationship analogy works perfectly. But the companies that used to 'put out', listen to us, and give us loving experiences that we loved them in return for are now ugly, cheating on us, not giving us what we want and not listening to us and gaslighting us about it all. Now that we want a divorce and are done with thier crap, we are the bad guy

[@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2]

I would add beating us, then saying "Oh I'm so sorry, I won't do it again" while pressing their knees on our troths. (figuratively)

[@DDobs12]

Concord devs lost their jobs. I'm ready for Bioware to do the same.

[@Qballiz2kool]

Yea, I’m ready for BioWare to just go at this point, I’m fed up with it.

[@DDobs12]

@Qballiz2kool their old games still exist and they are nice at least

[@TheDezembro]

As a Brand, Dragon Age might just get away with selling enough to stay afloat especially because of their shady little game of filtering out negative critics from the Previews to only offering review keys to the shills and the more moderate ones they probably hoped would praise the game as well. Lifting embargo 3 days before launch and letting all those glowing reviews come out to get the public excited while real reviewers have to wait until launch to start playing the game... But I definitely believe that this will still, in the end, impact them a lot. Bioware will be marked for their incompetence at making an RPG in which choices and backstory don't matter, their terrible artstyle and character design, lackluster combat and worse - dog shit uninspiring writing and characters. Then, all eyes will be on Mass Effect. People will not trust it, especially if they see red flags. And at that point the Mass Effect team can either learn from this and make an actually good game for their players or go down the same modern audience road and fail. There's only so much EA will tolerate 🤷‍♂️ they aren't the same scythe wielding assholes they were 11-12+ years ago but they're still EA lol

[@DDobs12]

@TheDezembro I get the idea here, but we are already here. With Anthem and Andromeda before it...Bioware is on a losing streak. With how aggressive they attacked their playerbase, I'd say all good intentions towards them should be lost. If Ubisoft can lose money over Star Wars, Avatar, and Prince of Persia...Bioware can lose over less respected ip.

[@TheDezembro]

@DDobs12 True but it feels like there's been a "reset" (and restructure) at Bioware before Veilguard and the next Mass Effect. Def right on the Star Wars and Prince of Persia, but even on this case, Veilguard is being heavily supported and pushed by the games media. It's like a "symbol". But then again so was the Acolyte. We'll see what happens. I personally don't have these illusions of good intentions, I'm just assuming what MIGHT happen based on the average public. But then again a few months ago I'd never have guessed Concord would be shut down in 2 weeks. 😂 could be I'm underestimating just how sick of all this shit the average public might actually be.

[@Grombrindal]

Not one step back

[@Kelly-np2xq]

Legit question how are we to "fix the problem" the ones who make the product made in the first place? If you put something out and people don't like it its not the people's fault that is a risk you take when you are in a entertainment field nobody gets automatic success either accept that your product failed listening to what people say and try again. Or go in to another line of work

[@desmien679]

Simple answer, you can never be too harsh in criticism especially todays games. In fact you can't be harsh enough regarding games and those who developed games like this one. If they want to get salty, let them and enjoy the entertainment. It's character building and a lesson they need to eventually learn when messing with gamers.

[@marconeves1979]

No, you were not rude, or harsh. You were right on the money. You said everything we were thinking, and you explained it all perfectly. Nao, nao foste mal educado, ou severo. Acertaste direitinho. Disseste tudo o que pensavamos todos, e explicaste tudo perfeitamente.

[@followertheleader]

We need to be harsh in order for people who don't love the hobby to stay out.

[@ReturnoftheLightning]

These parasocial relationships have gone too far, and the dude that made the other video is clear proof, supposedly someone has the solution to solve all of Bioware’s problems without treating social issues (because no way they’d change that) why should they do that? Do they get paid for it? No. Absolutely mental

[@himeko3315]

Imagine we losing a sequel pf Ghost of Tsushima playable as Jin Sakai, instead replaced with an activist holding the flag so big Sony failed to see it... i feel conflicted in modern video games. Alas, my hope only left in some studio like Capcom ie. Monster Hunter Wilds...

[@IcepickEvans]

As long as Capcom keeps employed it's "localization department" they will not be getting a dime more out of me. I do not support that shit.

[@KittyMcFurball]

Can't be too harsh on this POS. Mental illness simulator.

[@noctoi]

I'm sorry you're getting crap from them. It shows your hitting a nerve though. The fact is that it's not okay to be an asshole or a bigot. If you are NOT DOING THAT, then you have EVERY RIGHT to be upset about the behaviour of people selling half assed products then insulting their paying customers. Especially when THEY are claiming that sweet moral high ground while doing EXACTLY what they're claiming others are doing. As a customer of these studios AND as a customer who's ostensibly part of several of the minorities these devs are using as a platform for upvotes, I'm GRATEFUL for your outspokenness. Thank you for calling them out.

[@vgamedude9811]

I cannot STAND these "optics" focused people. Actually defending Gaider is wild

[@ThrobbGoblin]

I honestly don't think you need a script, your "rambling" is more coherent than most creators that spend hours typing-up their lines.

[@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2]

During the video I was like "YEA, TRUE, EXACLTY, TOTALLY " .

[@aweigh1010]

Seems to me the toxicity would go down substantially if they stopped hiring radical liberal activists. Sales would also improve.

[@cezarysudol]

problem lies with HR departments, they are infected with WOKE to the hilt and they purposfully hire radical liberal activists no matter the professional merit, or rather lack of it.

[@abominablesnowman876]

you cannot be antihero in this game. this is not an RPG

[@sojufett7434]

Only one thing can make BioWare make better games, and that is not to buy their garbage. Then it’s on them to sink or swim. Talking nice to them does nothing.

[@alexshtyn6336]

We have been too inclusive in the gaming community. If half of the industry needs to burn to the ground just so we can all speak the same language again i say so be it.

[@marconeves1979]

Check out the SkillUp and Mr. Matty Plays reviews. Two long (40 mins or so) comprehensive reviews that actually review the content of Veilguard properly and in-depth.

[@_shivers]

We're at war. Show no mercy, take no prisoners. It's victory or death.

[@KhavostovRasputin]

I would say to not give up in boycotting these DEI infested game. Hold the line and keep letting them fail, eventually they'll either run out of money or some big shots who invest their money into blackrock start asking questions like "Hey why am I not getting a return in my investment or what are you guys doing with my money?" As for people accusing you being a racist or sexist or LGBT phobe, at this point just keep it simple and tell them "This is a business transaction relationship, the company is not entitled to my money, I dont like what they are doing and I will not give them my hard earned money and free time just to play something i do not agree with or like." Gamers at the end of the day are a very forgiving bunch, somtimes to a fault. All we ask is for you to respect us, listen to our criticisms, and in return we will give you not only money, but we will also spread you IP's name far and wide in order to vet more people into it, along with the fact that we will almost always give you the benefit of the doubt way too many times than you deserve.

[@smithynoir9980]

All of those reasons as explained by the developer are informative and good to know, however, we as the people they want to separate from our hard-earned money, we ultimately do not care. The state of the industry, the internal corporate politics and marketing, none of it matters. We do not need to consider any of this when it comes to spending our money on a game, only the quality of the game and our interest in it matters. Not spending our money is not toxic. End of story. Specific to what that guy had to say, his attitude is very much oozing entitlement. He's blaming you, and other creators, for not bringing solutions to THEIR issues while demanding we care about their workplace struggles as an excuse to spend on sub-par products. He's also clearly wrong in regards to owning ideas, he can admit that the original writer has to watch this happening and can't do anything and he shouldn't. Wrong. Those that create the idea, own the idea. "You can't get attached to your ideas" he says, defending corporations that will break every idea down into it's core components, copyright and claim ownership of every idea they possibly can. You are 100% correct in regards to many mainstream channels. They are desperate and think they are special, that THEIR access is more important than informing the audience. To be clear, Dragon Age: Veilguard objectively did not have a review process. None. It had an advertising campaign in which codes were intended to be given out to only specific channels and denied to anyone that would give anything but positive spin. That's not review, that's purely advertising. 100% Agree with everything you talked about. Everyone that disagrees, they are tourists, their view doesn't matter.

[@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2]

This is GOD TIER LEVEL statement. Thx for your love of games ♥♥♥

[@TheDezembro]

Thanks a lot! 🙏

[@regex2660]

Being civil because of "the devs have feelings too y'know" is what get us here in the first place. If putting down my foot and voting with my wallet is me being racist and bigoted, then I'll gladly be this way while I wait for actual good games. Any other industry wouldn't care about feelings. You didn't do your job, your out. Fired.

[@TheDrudgenator]

No

[@HeyRavenousRaven]

Until these virtuous and tolerant people get punished for their failings in the same manner as anyone would punish a restaurant for not giving them what was paid for, then they won't learn. Then again, i havent heard of any restaurants hiring food consultants to test their food or any stakeholders deciding what goes on the menu.

[@Chadw1cKed]

Not harsh enough.

[@Zero-no5vf]

I Din't even watched this video yet, and i would say that you were too nice

[@tavasaikong2740]

You hit every point my man. 💯 Unfortunately, it will fall on deaf ears, these people are delusional and get high off their own farts.

[@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2]

Yea but you know ..... farts smells so good 🤣😝(sry too tempting)

[@Dr._Nicolas]

Well said, don't let the milenials that work in these companies gaslight you into buying their game or maintaining their business, they are profesional manipulators they were raised to be corpos, don't let them thrive with their manipulation, there is nothing more pro corpo than a milenial that wants to keep their job dispite doing it badly. Narcicist are not people, their only goal is to think for themselves nobody else, they want all and give nothing in return.

[@mawsometall4692]

The future of gaming now belongs to the indies

[@missfilby]

We are not their emotional support consumers.

[@XxXuzurpatorXxX]

The underlying problem is - we - the audience - are being emotionally attached to a franchise. Which the activists want to leverage to sell their stupid. It is a game of attrition and my patience is infinite. Especially since new things are going to fill the vacuum left by old gods dying. In the end - this situation ain't sustainable, thus a course correction is in order. It will take some time, but anthropocentric values which built our culture will prevail, eventually. And my backlog is immense.

[@cezarysudol]

the same situation happens in Hollywood movies industry for years. Yet it didn't corrct itselfs, despite massive losses flops produce. I think, sadly, you may be too optimistic.

[@XxXuzurpatorXxX]

@@cezarysudol It's going to take years to erode social proof of Californian entertainment industry - especially movies. But it will happen.

[@alexescorza8120]

We really need more content creators like you, you make your points very well without much outrage you explain things I don’t know how to express

[@primalspongebob6144]

Ahhhh Skyrim’s ethereal soundtrack makes everything go over better. Good video. Shame the state of it all.

[@douglasarthur2673]

Devs and especially Activist Devs have forgotten Gamers are their customers. The Comic Industry and Hollywood have both attacked their customers and look at how that's worked out.

[@Spit1990]

I had no idea what happened to Life Is Strange. I respect their original vision, even if it wasn't for me. They had 'Tegridy!

[@MyriadColorsCM]

I have an extensive backlog of game I have yet to finish, I am in absolutely no hurry to give my cash to the slop the AAA industry is providing. And even if I hadn't, I still would not give them my money, because I can still replay my old favorites. The solution is simple: stop buying, and then they will come begging for us to go back.

[@DeadEndScreamer]

Imagine if restaurants could just blacklist any food critic from attending their restaurant based on them having good taste and standards, the gaming industry is a joke.

[@ordo_draigo_assault_ham]

One side (the game industry,) need the other to survive. The customer doesn’t need the video game industry. One side can terminate the arraignment and find other interests (or decent people that like games,) whenever convenient. The industry needs to remember its f’n place.

[@CodingJesus]

I love this man's content.

[@Weavole]

I do have a genuine question here. Can any game have a nonbinary character? I get it with the Qunari, since Veilguard brought this whole thing up. The lore of Dragon Age would mean that the Qunari wouldn’t be okay with someone who’s nonbinary and yeah devs shouldn’t insult their fan base since they are the reason they have this job. But like, can Cyberpunk 2077 have a nonbinary character? Doesn’t contradict the lore or world and the creator made stories by looking at the real world. I mean no hate with the question. A character’s entire story shouldn’t revolve around their sexuality because then that’s all the character would be about and that’s not good.

[@TheDezembro]

I can only give my opinion on it. I think it all comes down to a couple of things, mainly being the intent behind the character. Because you can totally have certain 'unconventional' characters in some settings that don't break immersion, lore, worldbuilding, etc. Tyler in Tell Me Why and Claire in Cyberpunk 2077 are good examples of trans characters in games that I've mentioned before. But it's not just because they're in "modern" (or futuristic, in the case of Cyberpunk 2077) settings. It's because the intent behind them was clean in my opinion. So they're not exaggerated, and their gender identity isn't a main characteristic of theirs - it's not their personality or part of their story. It's just a thing. Some people play through CP77 without even realizing Claire is trans and I think that's damn realistic because trans people deal with dysphoria and I'd say it totally defeats the point to just let EVERYONE around them - including strangers of course - know that they used to be a dude or a chick before. But when your intent is soooo focused in ideological nonsense... Seeded in narcissism and the urge to propagandize, then the characters aren't going to be allowed to be characters. They're going to have to be 'symbols', or walking neon-signs that point to whatever it is that they're supposed to be proudly representing. And this is just going to end up in cringe even if the setting fits. IN many ways, transness could kinda fit into Dragon Age, there are magical rituals that can alter a person's body and even allow them to change "the whole way". It can be gruesome, but it works. It's a tidbit of lore from Tevinter magic if I'm not mistaken. Obviously this piece of lore doesn't allow people to idealize and present "transexuality" the way WE know it here, on planet earth, in the 21st century tho, so, the devs chose to include unrealistic terms and top SURGERY scars. Non Binary is also another stupid use in my opinion because nothing stops them from having their own word for this concept. And I actually think they already do too, at least, Taash's mother seems to mention a Qunari word for someone who doesn't know fit into male or female genders. But Taash just lashes out at it and uses that ridiculous word that we so strongly associate with computers .___. There's also better ways to include a NB character with winks and nods to their 'gender' with far better writing that doesn't overtake the entire character's existence and doesn't make a mockery of the matter. Veilguard failed in all these matters by doing both transexuality and non-binary "representation" in ways that screw the lore, the immersion, and even the representation itself by writing incredibly cringy scenes that highlight the WORST of these aspects. it doesn't "humanize" NB people, it makes them look and sound childish, unreasonable and narcissistic. Which is the worst route you could go in a world that is already so awash with embarrassing examples of that childishness, unreasonableness and narcissism from unhinged tiktoks.

[@Weavole]

@ I completely agree with everything you said. I just wanted to know if the execution was the problem or the gender thing was the problem. Like Shadiversaty would hate it no matter how well they did it. Sadly it seems like they thought Taash’s most important role was being the NB one instead of making them a good character that also is NB. Of course also it making sense in lore. Like they could just call themselves the same Qunari word and then the MC asks what the word means and boom, better already I think.

[@TheDezembro]

@@Weavole Yeah it doesn't surprise me and I can't blame people who don't like it at all because at the moment, this stuff has gone so far, its sooooo deeply embroilled in politics, like, Shad is a parent, and as a parent he has to worry about this kind of ideology seeping into the school systems where some already start teaching kids in first grade about all manner of this gender theory stuff. And it just boggles their little minds. It's not even about teaching them ACCEPTANCE - like teaching them not to bully people for being different for example. It's straight up indoctrinating them to identify as all manner of 'exciting original and different ways', like picking their favorite super power or something. Except unlike super-powers, no one tells them it's all fantasy and meant for play-time. It's taken as a real thing. And so much of it is based on "vibes" and "personality", but its instead being interpreted as an actually different scientifically based gender. Meanwhile ACTUAL conditions that can make you truly not be able to bare living as the gender you're born as such as gender dysphoria are so insanely rare that forcing this into kids is beyond exaggerative. And it doesn't even JUST touch on the gender stuff, it eventually revolves all around "privilege" and "marginalization" and thus, demonization of """cis gender""" people, especially boys. To some people, it's all part of the package. Having it in videogames - even if done well, which is rare - is like another step in normalizing the more radical instances of this stuff on the education system, or for example other legislative situations (like compelled speech in UK where you can go to jail for """misgendering""" someone.) SO yeah I can't fault people who don't want this stuff at all, things are super hectic and heated up at the moment ._. on the surface it's like "ah its just a button in a character creator" but it's actually SO MUCH more than that and often people aren't against the odd non-binary person or trans person, they're against the overarching agenda and toxic message that has latched itself to them.

[@SSELoves80085]

22:46 LMAO #JusticeforTony

[@Qballiz2kool]

The video game industry I think at this point needs to a complete reset. It needs to be unplugged and plugged back in. I wish we could go back to 2007, man I miss those days. There’s only a handful of developers we can truly trust to make good games nowadays for the simple reason of just wanting to make a good game and that’s just sad..

[@zerestrasz]

What Playlist have you used for this video? I can recognize bit of skyrim. Thanks and great video once again. I look forward for the video about hogwartz legacy :)

[@TheDezembro]

@@zerestrasz They were all Skyrim tracks :) - Under an Ancient Sun - Beneath the Ice - Distant Horizons - Tundra - Forgotten Vale - Secunda

[@zerestrasz]

@TheDezembro gosh i have that feeling once again... I want to reinstall and mod skyrim for the 394729 time.

[@Sherifeldfrawy]

glad there are gamers like you this at least give me hope .as Iam from Egypt far away from these agendas somehow put sometimes i feel that these agendas and those kind of people become all of the community and era of gamming wont be excite anymore . put when i saw your channel i glad that there are gamers that share my feeling about those studios and those " new audience " .

[@tylerfisher7122]

Just like with the game testers of dragon age the developers didn’t want to hear criticism but wanted to hear u love the game

[@renejosu]

Not harsh enough

[@winston1604]

Glad you called yourself a customer and not a consumer

[@TaddiestMason]

I would argue the best way for us to vote with our wallet would also be the most difficult: buy these IPs we love so much and release them into the public domain so that anyone can profit off them and not just these corporations who are proving to be unqualified and unworthy stewards of them. The fans clearly care more about them than the companies that own them, so....let's buy them from these companies and release them into the public domain. I know we can't and won't do that, but it would likely stop them from being able to do whatever they want with these IPs we love so much. Nobody wants to play their terrible games with a popular IP slapped onto it and people would gravitate more towards the fan made projects with passion and effort put into making a quality game that would be fun for people to play. The tools to make those games are getting more accessible and readily available and more powerful for the average person to use to make more and more games that they would want-the only thing stopping these fans from being able to use the popular IPs like the big companies let their untalented and uninterested staff bastardize is that those IPs aren't in the public domain and legally usable by the fans. So....fix that. Sure, you'll get some crap from fans, too-but would it be any worse than it is now with these companies owning them and having total control over who can do what with the IP? No, obviously not.

[@benmcreynolds8581]

The industry treats us like complete idiots nowadays. It's honestly pathetic how much they care about getting good reviews BUT if they just make a good game, they don't have to worry about all of this fake marketing bullshit. All of this Brainrot stuff is the Prime example of how "Toxic Positivity" Can be one of the most destructive forces. A group of people cannot make great creative games if Toxic Positivity permeates throughout the development process. Don't you just love how much we get to Escape the nonsense of OUR world and dive into this Fantasy world...? Right? Right? It definitely wouldn't shove a ton of real life brain rot into a Fantasy game, Right? BTW this ART style, aesthetic, character attitudes, voices is AWFUL! Can we all just let this be the tipping point. Where we all Boycott the AAA game industry..? I'm honestly so done with this.

[@ShadowGeek12]

We must steel our resolve, gate keep harder and become even more toxic towards the trash developers put out

[@tadaokou4919]

Politeness is good and all but sometimes nothing can be as expressive as a good old "F you" mixed with laughing of mockery. Sure, this does seem like bullying but in this case the people who are targeted by this 95% of the time brought this upon themself. Gamers have been polite for so long now, you could say that the people who get targeted by public backlash actively chose this by abusing the politeness of gamers to it's boiling point. All of us only have 1 life and we do not have time to wait 30 years for these big companies to get ahold of themself.

[@justaquietpeacefuldance]

LMFAO, the thumbnail says it all 💀💀 it's all such a "I told you so" moment for everyone. Even for Corrine! Mofo tried to warn us too, I feel like...

[@spouwnerring]

People who are called Tony phone their cousons named Nico and tell them that they should go bowling with them.

[@Pale_ghost]

i think we will see the impact in 2-4 years, because that the amount of time needed for em to make a game. I hope the next from software game will have male/female instead of body type 1/2

[@dreamingawaken6059]

Thanks for video, your points resonate with me and helped me put mine into more structure. I also have a lot of questions on David Gaider. What credibility does he even has to speak to current gaming community? Since he left DA he didn't manage to create any meaningful story or IP outside of DA. This makes me question his contribution to DA as well.

[@Accursed4life]

I have learnt to let go. There is no legacy, there is no pre-order and there is no day one purchase. I have trusted critics that vet my expensive purchases for me and I watch them closely. I can not buy product longer than these companies can stay solvent. I am VERY patient.

[@kharijordan6426]

Eh ..after high five rush...i don't even think my wallet can stop anything.

[@rtgh2010]

I have start playing the mass effect trilogy and dragon age origins.

[@Jingokou]

They all know what the solution is, they just refuse to acknowledge it.

[@Edge2177]

We need to hold people to standards to help make BG3 a reality again, Bioware and EA are antiquated and need to change.

[@SolantisA]

A tumour needs to be removed, not persuaded into leaving... You can never be too harsh with these people since they instantly get offended no matter what.

[@Babaa325]

Excellent video. I have nothing else to say, I just want to boost your engagement however I can.

[@qrx9294]

You are completely right!

[@mick9239]

I would broadly trace the development and reaction of normal people to this ideological mania as follows: At the outset: Okay yeah, maybe you could be on to something, let's keep that in mind as part of the process: As it continued: Hmm, I don't really like the direction this is going, but we may be addressing some societal issues, so I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt: As it got out of hand: Yeah, I basically hate where we are now, but I'm sure they will listen once we present our very reasonable opinions on why we don't like this: Where we are now: Fucking burn it all to the ground. There is no point even trying to have a dialogue with these zealots, they just want power and control.

[@caseylascallette7269]

Guys Kingdom Come deliverance 2 is right around the corner.... The first game was great... AND THE DEV IS BASED

[@adi6293]

I can see you going places, another excellent video!

[@almamater489]

Honey, you're not harsh enough. Dragon Age was my favorite dark fantasy, and they fucking ruined it