Was it all fake??? Pianist's Playing - Chopin

[@Mikkel_2407]

I didn’t expect Traums voice to sound like this, that’s crazy.

[@ortholol]

CRAZYYYY1

[@santiagobalbi3798]

If you change the voice to more low tone that can be the real voice (?

[@taiteyard3567]

@@santiagobalbi3798 it’s an ai voice

[@Mikkel_2407]

@@taiteyard3567 we know lol

[@santiagobalbi3798]

@@taiteyard3567 r/woooosh

[@giorgosg4032]

Hi Traum! It's rare to have pianists of your capabilities be on youtube. Can you maybe make a video where you show some of the earlier lessons or exercises you did as a kid, to acquire this control, as you just showed with non-legato notes in the 3-4-5 fingers?

[@mrpass1768]

There is a tutorial by paul barton on youtube for this etude

[@TheFlamingPiano]

It doesn't matter too much, you're amazing either way, but it's nice of you to finally talk about it. And I can't judge you since I do it much more often anyway

[@gorkemyapar]

What is he (you too) doing exactly?

[@eugenelevin9809]

@@gorkemyapar Add notes in post production. You can see in his original video (pay attention to the first 10 seconds) that his 2nd finger is not touching the keys, and the keys do not light up. But the sound is there, as he edited them in later.

[@R0b3ert]

​@@eugenelevin9809 +1

[@TheFlamingPiano]

@@gorkemyapar (allegedly) adding the index finger notes, which he apparently did not play originally. In my case I also edit my MIDI after recording, more of removing and changing wrong ntoes

[@AntorasStudio]

@@TheFlamingPiano I can’t even imagine playing the thumb notes with the chromatic scales involved, let alone adding the index finger notes too LOL

[@Silvermoonmaker]

I’m excited for the full video! Your interpretation of Grand Galop Chromatique is one of my favorite piano visualizations of all time and since it uses similar technique so I’m certain you’ll do great with this etude. Thank you Traum for the quality content!

[@benharmonics]

“Sometimes play it again” 💀 Poor girl, I felt so bad for her…😰

[@onlyflatspiano]

It's a really hard etude, it's completely understandable and it isn't a big deal (unless it was a competition, in that case, poor girl :c)

[@benharmonics]

@@onlyflatspiano It was a competition...it was the Chopin International Competition in Warsaw, actually... 😞

[@onlyflatspiano]

@@benharmonics 😫

[@sacrilegiousboi978]

Yeah, so glad that the comment section on the official vid was (for the most part) extremely sympathetic towards her

[@cosmicalyxr]

Glad you were able to address that video in a sarcastic manner, keep doing you! You still make up almost half of my main playlist!

[@Chopin-Etudes-Cosplay]

I'm impressed at all the performances Traum was able to dig up. Shows his genuine interest about this piece. Here's some timestamps for the various performers: 0:15 Kate Liu 0:19 Julian Zhi Chao Jia (strong inner voice) 0:25 Dmitry Shishkin (super fast) 0:39 ? 0:43 Seong Jin Cho (strong left hand) I love this etude, and personally my favorite is a little-known recording by Yingying Su (on youtube). But...I don't know if it's real 😛

[@donkdonkfishingwithhenryan4574]

0:39 is Anastasia Yasko in the first round of the most recent Chopin Competition in Warsaw.

[@alecelison327]

Funny name

[@Kolchicine]

@@donkdonkfishingwithhenryan4574 I was so sad for her when it happened

[@kietmai7345]

hi, i love your videos please upload a new video, im waiting for you

[@vincentcucheval]

No Anastasia is at 0:30 , at 0:39 it is dinara klinton

[@DavitMinasyan-rn3fv]

your playing sounds so beautiful even when you’re not focused on musicality

[@w3sp]

I did just watch the other video in question and have to say yes, in that particular video many of the right-hand index finger notes were skipped entirely which is also indicated by the lack of the LED lighting up on many of the supposed notes 🙂 However there is no doubt of course that you have a great technique and can play the etude with these notes as illustrated in this video! Keep the Chopin stuff coming 🙂

[@Miguel090497]

Right!

[@ciararespect4296]

Yea so fake

[@cursedswordsman]

Pretty condemning. Don't know how you can deny this.

[@gixelz]

must not be seeing the same thing then. also, LED light up isn't the the best way to tell, it's always wonky with fast stuff like this.

[@caldilworth1344]

You didn't need to do this, but the fact that you did places you apart and above other youtube pianists imo. I appreciate your constant uploads, they serve as a consistent motivation for me to keep practicing. 😊

[@ZeanIkLaurie]

All of the guys that came up on that video are really great artists. Viewers are so picky as if getting the skills never took all the time it took and want the visuals to be perfectly aligned. The only dishonest clip on that video was SM, we still respect you and love your content Traum

[@Asymmetrization]

kassia did the same thing except she actually played it legit the first time

[@minpark1001]

@@Asymmetrization she never played this piece...

[@Asymmetrization]

@@minpark1001 she made timed and proven legit plays of contentious pieces. traum played illegitimately and then played the piece properly later, feigning that he had performed it legit the whole time.

[@LogioTek]

​@@Asymmetrization what's the fuss all about? it sounds like Jazz to me

[@mrm0n3yb4gs5]

also this new video style is awesome, keep up the uploads!

[@manbat1890]

great response to piano techsupport, i saw his video the other day but did not expect you to react to it

[@익명-b2o6w]

뭔가 요즘 영상들이 소통하는 느낌이 들어서 좋아요! 응원합니다

[@FilipinoFurry]

I never see a video like this from you That wee bit voice reveal is so amazing

[@doteleven5890]

It’s an AI

[@AiDeN-rl7di]

한국어 자막 요청했는데 너무 감사합니다❤

[@NachtPiano]

Thank you responding to the criticism I have even more respect for you

[@Traumfanblueheron]

So glad to see Maestro decided to show his musical integrity! Great demo but I don't recall giving you extra oxygen for the cute voice?!😂

[@Traumfanblueheron]

​@@ggobbler Not as fast as Maestro's terrifying techniques!

[@Traumfanblueheron]

​@@ggobbler I was actually replying to your #31 comment when Maestro uploaded this one.

[@Traumfanblueheron]

@@ggobbler LOTS of practice and dedication will help.👍

[@ggobbler]

@@Traumfanblueheron :) So far, many of my friends have gotten the acceptance phone call. Theres a lot. ofcompetition and around 120 people are accepted. They make around 20 calls a day, and the calling started friday/saturday. Theyusually call on the weekends. So far. Iknow around almost 15 people who have made it. There has been probably around 60 people who have already been accepted... I still haven't gotten the phone call yet, so I starting to worry. I am smarting than many of my friends who have made it this year. I have better marks, so I might've bombed the exam... I'm not sure, anyways, ill be waiting for that call and continue to hope that i make it

[@Traumfanblueheron]

@@ggobbler I hope you hear from the school soon🤞🤞🤞

[@derekpintozzi2498]

Love your voice man

[@dancinghands4285]

Hi!

[@wedemeyerr]

He is absolutely amazing!!!

[@josetorrez8712]

Traum, I am waiting for the discord server :) I love ur playing keep it up man you are an inspiration for me to keep learning piano. I love your Spanish rhapsody performance btw is amazing I know this has nothing do to with this video but yeah anyways, Keep it up man I really hope to see you in a concert hall one day

[@kohashiguchi1454]

His Spanish Rhapsody is so entertaining I don't blame you for mentioning it here.

[@elshazari2340]

Great interpretation as always, I would love if you could make a video on piano practice tips

[@SirloucoPiano]

The most important is the musicality and you always did it very well. Your technique is amazing! We believe in you!

[@yorkzie7593]

bro plays it so easily and every note is so clear

[@bowlerrollercoaster]

I completely forgot about how good this particular Etude from Chopin was. I feel bad now lol.

[@leggiero922]

형 너무 스트레스 받지 말고 해요 스케르초2 영상 잘 보고 있어요~ 공부에 도움 줘서 고마워요

[@Scrungge]

Whatt I really didn't think this would be one of the hardest etudes. So cool

[@Sebasu]

Not Anastasia catching strays 😭

[@tommeng6522]

Daaaaang, you were fire in this video! A nice, firm response to those thinking that you may have been cheating in this piece.

[@ciararespect4296]

He did though? And many others

[@jimhalpert9898]

nice thumbnail and video, its got a trending style to it so don be suprised if this video blows up

[@MattyBGAMINGUK]

You don't have to justify anything. Keep up the great work 👍🏻

[@j.rohmann3199]

I suppose this video is a reaction to PianoTechSupport's video where he has said your hand movement looks unrealistic or smth else was off? (I dont quite remember what it was) I have seen that video before it was removed and I am glad you made this video as reaction :) Very nice!

[@jisyang8781]

Yeah, saw his second video on this topic. He comes across as a nitpicking hypocrite who defends his own ‘recording studio splicing’ as 100% legit but sporadic Midi editing for wrong note correction as immoral deceitful act. Gimme a breeeeeak.

[@Traumfanblueheron]

​@@jisyang8781 Same thoughts exactly

[@GabsARV]

Mind providing a link to that video?

[@tkrpiano]

i think its a reaction to many comments pointing out the absence of the middle notes in every chord

[@fontaine3001]

PTS said that he wasn't playing many notes for the RH index finger, which makes the etude much easier. (This is definitely true in the original video) In this video he certainly is playing it.

[@ralsei217]

Omg Traum using Yasko's clip was savage

[@TraumPiano]

I respect her. I have seen her great performance. This is just an accident that can happen to any pianist. Her talent should not be diminished by just one mistake.

[@lukewatkinsmusic]

The Yasko joke caught me off guard😂

[@coby.t]

If someone ever accused you of faking ever again I will politely debate with that person in a calm and civilized manner

[@ciararespect4296]

Still fake pal

[@loganm2924]

Glad to see you revisiting this to fix it!!

[@keva.3856]

This guy is crazy good, and fun 😏😏👍👍

[@SorrowfulHallow]

You are my favorite KZbinr ❤

[@ナッツトゥユー-o2i]

I like your performance 😂 and i will continue to support you❤

[@tablogirl221]

Yes every time you keep improving the style of the video, this is the best one you did to prove the haters wrong,just a tip try to use a different text to speech voice cause this one sound silly 😅

[@aptaltruist]

I am very happy to see this, when I saw the (now removed) video when it came out I was a bit in denial since I know you are extremely good at piano, and wouldn't want to believe that your video was faked or at least compromised. The audio is very clean!

[@ashermay6513]

Wait he removed it?

[@Traumfanblueheron]

​​@@ashermay6513 I believe that Piano tech support had removed the video from his channel. Actually he posted that he didn't delete it, another comment said it was copyright striked.

[@SanAleksiusII]

@@ashermay6513 Yeah he did I checked now, but I don't understand why he removed it everything he said in the video was right. Maybe he got a mail from one of the pianists in video asking to take it down

[@Traumfanblueheron]

​@@SanAleksiusII Likely copyright striked

[@samaritan29]

@@Traumfanblueheron by traum?

[@hanjustin444]

It is indeed better than the original one so also slower but there are still places where the difficult parts were avoided by using the left hand to play the thumb note.

[@문원찬-h5p]

피아니스트의 손을 이렇게 가까이서 본건 처음인것 같아요😮

[@ashermay6513]

We love seeing Traum casually roasting his critics.

[@ciararespect4296]

Roasted nobody we all exposed him

[@ashermay6513]

@@ciararespect4296 And he spat in your face with this video.

[@justoing]

The guy didn't even look at the second video of your etude op 10 no 2 where you do hit thd notes

[@pepsi_0103]

트라움님 쇼팽 연주 너무 좋아요 ❤

[@illia_dmytryk_style2221]

OMG, I like your music SM! ❤

[@peyanno]

More Chopin!!

[@hcrescendo]

Beautiful as always..

[@TraumPiano]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@goehoviewer]

don’t worry you the goat. ❤❤ we trust you. But you should really remake your butterfly etude a bit faster than your first one

[@ortholol]

WE TRUST YOU TRAUM DONT WORRY

[@konpet4248]

The criticism of your Op 10.2 etude wasn't that you faked it though, was it? They just said that you didn't play the second finger at all. At 2:15 in your video with all Op 10 Etudes or 0:07 in the upload of just Etude Op 10.2 you can even tell from the midi that you didn't play the second finger (also this kept happening throughout your performance). That was the criticism. Don't get me wrong though, you're one of my favorite pianists on youtube. When I want to listen to piano pieces in the background, I always listen to your recordings. You've proven more than once how good you are, even with unedited recordings, and honestly, when I just want to listen to a piece in the background, I don't even mind the recording being edited. Most professional studio recordings are edited as well, why shouldn't that be allowed for uploads on KZbin?

[@miguelfernandez5583]

If i remember correctly, pianotech also said that he agrees with the editing ,but as long as you admited it, otherwise, it can create false idols or espectation to people.

[@konpet4248]

@@miguelfernandez5583 yeah, that's fair. When I noticed in animenz's Heaven's Feel recording that he edited the audio in some parts (it's rather easy to spot in the 2nd part at the note repetitions for example, but also in other places) I was kinda shocked at first. But I mean most of his listeners don't care about authentic piano, they care about how it sounds when it's played perfectly, and that's what animenz delivers. But I mean he also plays his arrangements live, so he has also proven his skill fairly often by now

[@user-cn6tt7by2m]

대체 뭐하는사람일까..? 저 말도안되는 실력은..

[@sparx1599]

I don’t think pts said your op 10 no 2 was fake, he just said you didn’t play all the notes in the right hand, which is true. We obviously know you have the technique to play op 10 no 2 properly, you’ve played way harder stuff, and I’m pretty sure you uploaded a second video of op 10 no 2 before, which was slower and played all the right notes. As long as you don’t edit the notes in, it’s fine. He said there was something fake about the dynamics of your petrushka 1st mvt, and that the notes didn’t sync with the sound. Also please play Harmonies du soir Etude. Love you Traum 😘

[@Vishesh23]

Hello traum, a petition was given by a pianist named Vicente pulido draves Piano to play Alkan etude op 39 no 7 to be played by you. If you have enough time, will you approve his petition by playing this etude. If already read, please pin the comment and give a heart

[@happypiano4810]

I agree. It’d be epic.

[@Vishesh23]

@@happypiano4810 Yes

[@mformusic.]

For the first time in the history, traum talked.

[@nuppup]

I'd like to see your Interpretation of John Cage's piece 4'33. It sounds so different when different people play it!! ✨😍

[@tommeng6522]

check the traumian channel, it was such a difficult piece there was one mistake in it XD

[@Traumfanblueheron]

​@@tommeng6522 I think Maestro unlisted that upload

[@DannyDoo-dl7yq]

Tbh idk anything about the fake playing and stuff but just watching this video it doesn’t look like he be provin anything slow speed and etc

[@cintyoo668]

can’t wait to see you play Rach 2 one day

[@luisevanperezbasanez944]

You could just type Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No 2, To lose 3 more Seconds of your time

[@Deniz69567]

some people really judge while they can't even play a single chopin etude

[@luisevanperezbasanez944]

They think music is the easiest thing

[@Deniz69567]

@@luisevanperezbasanez944 fr

[@Numberonesorabjifan]

So traum is just a minion?

[@mmelloe]

not the anastasia yasko clip 💀u didnt have to do that

[@sparx1599]

Yeah I don’t think I’ve seen anyone slip up that much in a single piece in the Chopin competition

[@트레뷰셋]

Did you edit to reduce the shooting time even though you can play the Étude? I'm not wondering if you can play the etude, I'm wondering if you edited the video.

[@eugenelevin9809]

What happened to that in-tempo video you promised at 1:13?

[@ellahazan-fuchs7249]

I'm curious to see, do you think this is harder than op. 25 no. 6? I've heard that one be called the hardest one often.

[@Chopin-Etudes-Cosplay]

They’re both considered the hardest. It’s hard to say which one is harder, but many fear Op. 10 No. 2 more. I made a video on 25-6 and I still sweat when I think about 10-2…

[@luisevanperezbasanez944]

He has answered that question

[@tackontitan]

I don't know why someone would say you've faked this. I've performed this etude as well and I can easily hear second finger playing. I guess there are some that don't know how to listen

[@cooltrades7469]

I used to plat this . Reasonably :))). Should see if I can do it anymore.

[@윤현빈-h9y]

의상보고 트라움이안 계정인 줄 알았어요 ㅋㅋㅋ

[@Bopzeedapog]

I made his voice deeper and the result is crazy damnn

[@emptyarms6113]

This is funnier now that you’ve revealed who you are

[@tomowenpianochannel]

LOL your approach to this (v. v. tough piece) just makes you want to laugh. Still pull it off though. Funny.

[@gaspardondine553]

If you really want to make an explanatory video, don't use the tape wrapped around your finger as an excuse to stop playing. The Chopin Etudes have long and short pieces. If you don't play properly until the end, you can't say that each of them plays well. In this explanation video, you can't resist when your right hand goes up. And if you look at the previous video of this song you played, you didn't play it at all and skipped it. You have been stuffed online on KZbin as a performer who played in an expedient way.

[@misterachso6091]

I agree with you

[@misterachso6091]

And he didn't play the keys responsible for introspective sounds. his other videos op. 25 no. 6 third Etüde of Chopin video. AND Feux Follet Etüde of Liszt. He seems unprepared to play for fast and perfect doubles.

[@TF2Starlight]

your op10 2 vid was not faked, the falling notes were. You, clearly in that vid, didn't include you index finger, even though you were more than capable of doing so

[@enzotang6634]

While I agree, the sound did have the inner voice which might mean the midi file (sound files) were edited. Either way it's still very empressive.

[@Lukas_E.]

Can someone please explain the controversy? Why did people believe it was fake?

[@pjbpiano]

Some other KZbinr reviewed some videos and his was a part of it.

[@Ben-kh2rh]

Search for pianotechsupport

[@ciararespect4296]

You know. Derrr😊

[@sebastianperez3696]

Que descaro con el estudio en la menor. Yo ya me había dado cuenta antes al ver la versión de Lisitsa. Eliminan la 2da nota del acorde. Si quieren encontrar una versión más estrictamente apegada a la partitura, vayan a escucharo en los concursos de piano

[@AhmedKpk]

Hungarian rhapsody no.8... please..... ...please

[@imfamous385]

But now people will focus on your second finger AND your mysterious voice

[@user-never-existed]

TRAUM VOICE REVEAL REAL OMG OMG OMG 🤯🤯🤯🤯😳😳🫢😮😮

[@jonathanjc1131]

The “Play it again” part hahaha!!! I saw the whole performance and it was so cringy. The pianist did record a very good performance but nerves got the better of her that day

[@ponegaints]

traum is insane!

[@Traumfanblueheron]

No, Traum is insanely good

[@mda_trash_polnyi]

Вы знаете, я понял, что он русский после видео, где он практиковал пьесу листа

[@crosskeys3403]

Yo, when we getting a face reveal?? And if we won’t ever get one, do you mind me asking why not?

[@IrishGoat2828]

Your. A dawg bro. I hate how those losers b that way. Keep inspiring

[@chamestb6632]

face reveal????

[@fakiAZer]

damn bro i thought your voice will be deeper (like just a bit)

[@kaspianocz6330]

This etude is hell.

[@BrinaSun]

What edition are you using?

[@TraumPiano]

Henle or Ekier

[@BrinaSun]

if you’re using the orange book then it’s ekier

[@wimmer_1500]

Hero!

[@lcmurillo1033]

I love you Traum 😂😂😂

[@ga123641]

아니 누가 그런의심을!! 이렇게 잘치시는데!!! 항상 잘듣고 있어요 저런 핸디캡에도 불구하고 너무 멋있네요❤

[@감귤감귤-k2j]

중요한건 꺾이지 않는 마음!!

[@TraumPiano]

🤞🇰🇷

[@BlueSteve]

TTS Reader?

[@johndavey72]

You are nuts !!! Did you inhale Helium ? Thankyou Traum 🥰

[@micheleberardi711]

Traum how can you make your piano keyboard so light? Pleas help

[@luisevanperezbasanez944]

Is not light, he just has Strong Force on his fingers, (i know, its anonying)

[@SophosPhilos]

Is that the same cotton from Op 25. No. 10?

[@mariaritadefreitasguimarae576]

O importante é a música e sua interpretação q são esplêndidas !!! Aguardamos novos vídeos sempre!!!🇧🇷🙋‍♀️

[@Tuco-js]

Sempre vejo comentarios brasileiros nos videos dele, o traum é brasileiro?

[@ThiagoZakur]

@@Tuco-js acho que não, devem ser pessoas que comentam em português por talvez não saberem inglês ou porque... Sei lá, não faço ideia kkkk

[@mariaritadefreitasguimarae576]

@@Tuco-js sabe Tuco, sou brasileira e gostaria de saber de onde ele é. Tbém não sei... mas gosto muiiito de ouví-lo. 🇧🇷🙋‍♀️

[@lucasmuniz007]

Uhuuu! Que bom encontrar Brasileiros 🥳🎉🎉

[@ThiagoZakur]

@@mariaritadefreitasguimarae576 ele é brabo mesmo. Chuto que ele deve ser da europa, talvez...

[@Autumnmusica752]

me haces recordar al rey enigma

[@mididivinity299]

Traum is actually a 12 y/o we should have known.

[@fiokomjutub972]

This Chopin No2 etude is more difficult than Feux follets

[@davikersulks9525]

this is just dumb

[@skillbomb8823]

Is this a response to the piano tech support video?

[@Ben-kh2rh]

Yes

[@Kaos__]

Can someone explain what people were criticizing and what this video was proving?

[@ciararespect4296]

Not proving anything