Was Jager Nerfed Too Much?

[@VarsityGaming]

I should title more of my videos like this, so many comments off the bat from Jager mains lmao Let it be known, I do slightly agree that he has been nerfed a lot, but it is necessary cause he's so good. Don't agree? Argue with me on Twitch: twitch.tv/varsitygaming

[@RyanC907]

I do think a slight buff to recoil will be ok the problem they gave so many nades out to attackers and gonne 6s of course his presence is going to be high because he does the job the best

[@UNKNOWN-xt6ve]

lovely shots, baby😍❤️❤️‍🔥

[@GavinKelly12]

I just think they need to make it like other operators like buck for example on console has less recoil I think Jaeger should be the same way because with controller it is silly

[@cannonman7122]

I think he deserves a recoil buff and reduce ADS time the most cause it feel sluggish.

[@RyanC907]

@@cannonman7122 I agree his gun is a bit sluggish or give the ability to have angled since the recoil is high

[@Ram_187]

Ubisoft only takes his presence into account but the fact of the matter is he's a necessity, like his pick rate that will never change.

[@VarsityGaming]

There's a reason they brought out operators like Wamai and Aruni, as alternatives to bring his pick rate down. The issue at the end of the day is that none of their gadgets or guns are as good as Jagers.

[@SquishyBauBau]

@@VarsityGaming A lot of new players or non recoil controlling people have trouble with his gun. Since the recoil is worse than before

[@cee-ho]

@@SquishyBauBau that’s not a luxury ubi can afford much longer

[@n.oddynuff]

@@VarsityGaming id beg to differ with aruni’s p10 roni

[@SquishyBauBau]

​@@Padlock_Steve Been playing since operation health, I know all the good weapons and attachments so dw. I'm saying about "new players" as in the people that don't play 24/7 and have actual lifes to live, unlike me. That gun is hard to control and ever Varsity litterally said the gun was hard to control, so if he can't control it that well then I'd say it's a hard gun to control.

[@GGE]

It's not irritating that Jager got nerfed, as much as he got nerfed and made progressively unfun patch after patch, but his necessity never changed. I think if something like a secondary ADS gadget was added, you could see some of the burden by not bringing a Jager lifted, and have his pick rate settle to where Ubisoft would like him.

[@Spitfirez_]

Nice to see you here Greg

[@randomguy51090]

Huh a device that either works like a proxy alarm or bullet proof cam (placement wise) that could zap 1 gadget that would be interesting

[@d4v1us]

Preach Sir Greg

[@freshlymemed5680]

A single use projectile zapper would be a cool idea. Something with a severely limited range that can only cover a doorway entrance or window and nothing more. Also nice to see you Greg.

[@shawnlatour1825]

What if wamai got all of his discs at round start? Would change up his playstyle a bit(maybe a bit more like Ela)

[@sparkysubwoofer]

to be honest, i still main jäger even after all the nerfs and i still think he’s a very decent operator . obviously not what he used to be but he’s still amongst the strongest defenders ( i find )

[@BlessedAJ]

Fr same here

[@idurisu930]

his gadget i s def one of the most useful in the game

[@Star-kp8oc]

Loyalty

[@GamingLovesJohn]

Ubisoft didn't understand at all his impact of why Ranked or the meta needed him. His speed and gun recoil/mag-size was irrelevant... but Ubi's infinite brilliance can't see why he's necessary in a lot of team comps, since he's built to negate and destroy attacker throwables. The only person to do that. While Wamai just catches it and redirects it, but the throwable is not negated and destroyed.

[@giacomopicasso212]

You can still play, he didn’t disappear

[@echo3568]

@@giacomopicasso212 nah really I thought they deleted him

[@SaltyPotatoHead]

i still think jager is useful. his gun is still mediocre despite the nerfs to ammo capacity. unlike wamai, his gadget isnt rendered useless after 1 use, since it recharges. jager has played an integral role in the game. his impact may not be as big as it is now because of all the power creep/shift in meta, but, he wont become useless yet

[@cheeseshit999]

You dont know what mediocre means do you

[@muerte2617]

It definitely wasn’t mediocre, it’s only mediocre now because of its nerf and even then it’s still not even that bad.

[@michaelcostello3080]

@@muerte2617 that's what he said

[@MomJeans1738]

@@michaelcostello3080 no, he said Jager's gun was always mediocre when that wasn't the case.

[@michaelcostello3080]

@@MomJeans1738 that's just not what he said, he said that the nerfs to ammo capacity didn't stop the gun from being at least mediocre

[@dad7335]

Jager will always have a high pick rate and the devs really went through a faze where they simply didn't understand that lol

[@cbt7270]

I don’t know why Ubisoft don’t want people to pay him?

[@aa-kz7hc]

it wasnt just his pick rate tho. he was 3 speed, had a really good gadget, and a good gun aswell, those are the three things you want out of an operator. this is essentially made jager a must pick because he could roam, and anchor while still being very useful to his team. some operators are missing 2 of those 3 things like castle for exp he has a good gadget but isnt 3 speed and has a trash gun and a i think he had a lower pick rate than jager.

[@aa-kz7hc]

@@Padlock_Steve imagine castle 3 speed and good gun, imagine maestro with 3 speed his lmg and his evil eye, imagine frost with a buffed gadget 3 speed and a good gun, you know what give black beard 100hp on his shield 3 speed and good gun.

[@aa-kz7hc]

@@Padlock_Steve jager isnt even dogshit now, he's just more in line with other ops now. he was literally op because every single part about him was good.

[@cbt7270]

@@aa-kz7hc Jäger became a legend. Even now with garbage he will be played because he is like a legend in this game

[@JaeGroove]

I think Jäger is decent still, tbh just give him 30 rounds back and maybe a tiny recoil buff and he’s cool

[@refluent187]

Please do this, if not the 5 extra bullets, least fix the recoil

[@murad-bc6vk]

The recoil might be high but it's controllable Jagers ar is basically mozzies colt smg but with a slower ads speed and slightly more recoil A damage buff instead would be great since it's an assault rifle and not a fucking smg

[@inreallife530]

@@murad-bc6vk No, there isn’t really anything wrong with him and he doesn’t need a buff since nades are so powerful and he is the best at countering them

[@murad-bc6vk]

@@inreallife530 it doesnt make sense to have a worse mozzie smg

[@deviondingle290]

@@murad-bc6vk His utility is arguably more impactful than Mozzie's. Damage scaling in this game follows no logic so that's not even worth mentioning about this game. I think Jaeger should get a 4th ads or better would be an extra charge in the 3 he has but a reload period of 3 seconds while still taking 10 seconds to recharge 1 shot.

[@thieudn36]

At least give him a full 30 round mag again

[@og4699]

"makes its 11 rounds like ar50"

[@leflxn7742]

@@og4699 bruh

[@chillboyo6829]

No.

[@ryderostby]

His gun feels like a ump-45 now 😞

[@milkypickle9654]

wait, you guys actually care about 5 bullets?

[@Quack4519]

I see a lot of people saying the recoil of the 416-C is hard and I don't play Jäger a lot, but the times I have used him I have had zero problems with controlling his recoil. The only gun that I find hard to control is Zofia's M762.

[@zai5253]

It's the M762 and the R4C for me

[@pure7624]

Ela's SMG too, that shit flies everywhere even with a compensator

[@TheStartUpScreen]

@@pure7624 ikr it feels like you’re hip firing with and other gun

[@123TheCloop]

They only nerfed him so much because of play time, its ironic because after the carbine nerf he got, actually stat wise was doing less in KD ratio than other defenders but pick rate was still the highest. Ubisoft couldnt acknowledge the fact they created this mess when they kept introducing operators with gadgets and consumables that REQUIRED Jager in almost all situations. Still to this day, all ubisoft had to do was adjust what consumables operators got depending on the gadgets they had, capitao still getting flash on top of 2 smoke/fire bolts, Ying getting candela's and smoke, gridlock getting spikes and smoke. the list goes on. this is why Jager became a must pick. Ubisoft should have made consumables a "pool" so not every OP could bring full smoke, flash or nades because the pool to pick from would have been smaller. this easily could have curbed Jagers pick rate knowing you wouldnt need him for EVERY situation, he still would have needed a general gadget cooldown nerf to compensate for less consumables during the match but as more ops come in, this will never change. he will still be the highest picked operator or close to it for his utility till ubisoft outright fix the consumable problem of potentially 15 flash or 10 smoke or 8 nades (i think) all while excluding the operator's gadgets.

[@Laplace3060]

I'm pretty sure there is a way to get 10 frags, Finka, Mav, Iana, Sledge, and Nokk. I can't think of anyone else with frags right now, but I think at least one more person has them

[@Laplace3060]

Oh right Glaz has frags but no one uses him so it's pretty much a wash

[@benanNOTfound]

@@Laplace3060 fuze technically

[@aa-kz7hc]

thats actually a good idea or they could make it so operators like ying with throwable gadgets that can be intercepted by jager cant get flashes, smokes, or nades at all and instead get to pick between breach charges or claymores. that seems pretty balanced and they wouldnt have to implement anything new. and then you have ops like gridlock, and capitao that you would need wamai to specifically deal with.

[@adamascolesi2589]

It’s funny cuz it’s like a tier one operator just happen to forget to bring fully loaded magazines. Then says instead of lowering my mag count I’ll have my 6 mags instead of filling them up and leaving his mag pouch a lil empty 🤣🤣

[@thegeth4293]

Alot of people recommend downloading ar15 mags a few rounds to save the spring pressure. At least when storing the mags loaded

[@jerrythekazzyy]

The increased recoil was the only thing that legitimately jarred me.

[@Turkeystrip]

Seriously not only that but he's a pathfinder op for new players and how are u gonna get people interested In the game when one of the starting ops gun is literally unplayable for new people

[@joey-gi7kr]

yh

[@ilydylan1189]

just pull down

[@m.e5775]

@@ilydylan1189 You expect newer people to be able to control recoil properly with Jager having somewhat decent recoil on his weapon now?

[@ilydylan1189]

@@m.e5775 its not that i expect newer players to know off the rip how to control recoil, its more of the people who’ve been playing the game for a good amount of time who are saying that recoil is constricting them. like i said all you have to do is pull down whether ur on mouse or controller, its rather easy.

[@DerpyUniverse]

If Ubi wants to reduce his presence they should reduce how integral he is to every ranked stack

[@takingday]

Here is my take, Jager has remained so high in pick rate cause Frag Grenades are so strong and have been getting more prevalent as the game has gone on. and in all reality I don't want them nerfed into the ground but to at least give more counter play like make it so that the minimum fuse time is 1.5 seconds so that there is some time to react and then you can have more freedom to change Jagers gadget to be less effective against projectiles(maybe remove there ability to stack) and then you could buff/change other aspects like his gun or his speed.

[@freshlymemed5680]

I think its not just Frag's. Though yeah Frag meta is definitely a big factor. But so many Attackers have projectile gadgets and being able to not worry about them just makes defenders lives so much easier. I think another issue is that the other operators with similar gadgets (Wamai and Aruni) have weaker gadgets by comparison. Aruni's gates have a cooldown and need to be manually reactivated. Wamai doesn't have all his disks at the start of a round. Jager gets to place all 3 ADS's at start then gets to do fuck all, anchor, roam, whatever he wants. Jager is just far more reliable as an anti-projectile gadget.

[@takingday]

@@freshlymemed5680 Yeah, there are allot projectiles that defenders have to worry about Frags are just the most powerful projectile on attack imo and I Agree that Jagers gadget is the easiest to use and to get value out of compared to the other anti-projectile defenders. And reducing some of that reliability or reducing the power of his gadget or even reworking it would be preferable to nerfing/changing his gun. I still think that also nerfing Frag Grenades would be somewhat better for the game preferably by making it so they can't be cooked anymore, or just so that they have a more forgiving minimum fuse time so that a defender can react to them like how they would Flores drones. but maybe I'm wrong and over estimated Frags and there effectiveness when compared to the other projectiles or even if that removing the cooking mechanic would do much for defenders safety.

[@salazaarfyrfang2699]

Varsity: "The solution is to give Castle's UMP to Jager and the 416 to Castle." Me: He's way out of line....but he's right. It always did baffle me why Jager had such a strong gun for such a strong gadget. A simple gun swap could have fixed the issue as you said and the gun never would have needed a nerf

[@ghangus1]

That’s would he plan dumb a ump to a German guy plus it wouldn’t look right how about everybody stop calling out who’s op and who’s not

[@salazaarfyrfang2699]

@@ghangus1 try that again in proper English that makes sense mate

[@ghangus1]

@@salazaarfyrfang2699 instead of y’all crying aka I know this comment section full of plats and golds just hit headshots you can stop any op opp with a simple headshot

[@buttercremecake1321]

I like the idea of potentially swapping the guns but not to castle but rather Warden for his mpx

[@WRATHxSIN]

Tbh warden needs the same gun as jager bc then they will pick him bc of his gun not the ability

[@Literally_Corn]

Give warden a super shorty. The Mpx is fine with a 1.5 and angled. He will be another op with a solid gun, shotgun secondary, and a shield.

[@ryangarcia5670]

Not a bad idea.

[@GroovySundowner]

That take at the end kind of fits since the SWAT if I remember correctly uses the HK416 (full name of Jäger’s Carbine) and it might be a minir stretch but I also think that the GSG9 use UMP so it makes perfect sense Varsity

[@dennisleibkuechler254]

17:10 To be faire I agree on this for once. Changing the gun would be a way better solution than just nerfing it into oblivion. And Castels UMP woulden even be a bad option.

[@highping100]

I pick Jager because sounds on 416-C are just so sexy ✋👌

[@naniwhat7332]

Ubisoft should increase HK-416C damage because its recoil is too high and also the ammo are only 26/25

[@Max-zw5km]

I think Jäger is still an good operator, but I don’t have that much fun anymore with him, same issue with Ash and Zofia. And if you play on console (so do I) this recoil nerfs are so annoying.

[@Curtisstollery]

If you get an ace one must drink a Jagermeister shot.

[@QuadraFcz]

But imagine, it would be cool, if Castle had pre-nerf 416-C.

[@FatherExo]

yes, all they needed to do was buff wamai and reduce jagers ability to the 2 shots then the pick rate would have balanced, tell the devs to focus on ability rather than kit when it comes to balancing the pick/win delta

[@chekiefloofderg4997]

I can agree. I have tried to give wamai a go but either I am pretty bad or he is not efficient at all. Plus the fact that the utility caught is still lingering there rather than being destroyed is so lackluster.

[@FatherExo]

@@chekiefloofderg4997 it’s not that wamai is bad or his kit it underwhelming, it would be so much better if the cooldown was reduced or and extra magnet being added

[@chekiefloofderg4997]

@@FatherExo I like his guns honestly, which is ok to me. And indeed I can't stop remarking that what u say is true. He could possibly be both a roamer and still help with his disk...if only he had them when he needed, he can't be anywhere, anytime :/

[@FatherExo]

@@chekiefloofderg4997 i’m not advocating that he could roam, however it depends on the role and map being played, you can’t roam whenever you want, i’d say that is dependent on the strat being played for the objective and what your spot is to hold, with wamai it’s super easy to hold a room or spot directly next to site or at a strategically important spot

[@that1randomguy382]

I was thinking that a good wamai buff would be that his magnets are only destroyed by frag grenades. So he would be able to capture and destroy all the gadgets he could already but, instead of the magnet blowing up, it destroys the gadget and the magnet stays. It sounds a lil OP but to balance that out, he would have less magnets and start with 2(2or3 more charge over the course of the round)🤔🤷🏽‍♂️

[@MetalGearBronya]

That Vigil is literally the very definition of a dog water roamer. Nowhere near site whole round then slow walks/crouch walks back to site when the defuser is already planted

[@kuromaki6226]

The thing with jager is that ubi at that time had no idea (idk how) why jager had that 90% pickrate. They just thought "Oh cause of 3 speed defender with good gun so we nerf him right?" The issue at that time was his overpowered ads gadget which resulted jager getting fucked starting from his speed and gun which later the devs find out and nerfs his gadget to fix the meta. resulting him in a really bad position with weird shitty recoil gun (controllable but not as consistent as it used to be) and ads which works ok

[@servdchi11ed57]

Ubisoft just needs to realize that there will be operators that are just good safe picks ie Jäger and Buck (or Sledge) there will be good operators while nerfing the ones that are too good like lion when he first came out but don’t constantly nerf anyone who’s just a good pick because they are a good pick however Ubi most of the time decides to nerf until no one really plays that operate

[@snapinfinity4749]

I still play a lot with Jager, and the nerfs upset me a little, the changes were needed though. great vid varsity.

[@im_skillz3463]

I say If they give jager the ump he needs the 1.5x on it

[@ryangarcia5670]

That would be fair.

[@freshlymemed5680]

I think Jager being picked all the time is just that he has the most reliable anti-projectile gadget. Compared to his peers, Aruni and Wamai, neither are as reliable. Aruni gates have a cooldown period after each use and need to be manually reactivated. Wamai doesn't have all his disks at round start so he has to play anchor to fully maximize his gadget. Jager gets access to all 3 ADS's at round start so he can just drop em for his team, then go do whatever.

[@carlosescamilla5260]

I think that if they buff wamai's gadget he could be a fine replacement for Jager, the only issue i have is that he doesn't neutralize the nade just rewinds the cook time, if he put it on standby so that it could be manually set off by a defender, then it would be WAY better, what do you think?

[@alive527]

He is nowhere near useless, and his gun isn't bad. Recoil is hard sure, but if you learn it it doesn't change. 2 speed change also isn't a huge drop down. Ammo count reduce is fatal as no matter how much skill you have, it's bad, but the gun is still really fucking good in the right hands, and his ability is op for a large variety of reasons, such as to save defense utility like deployable shield or bp cams or maestro cams, etc. And another reason is just in general to counter nade meta. Jager is a must have in most situations

[@alive527]

I am new so I didn't know every change, damage nerf is also bad yes but 1: one shot headshots 2: damage still isn't bad, it's not op damage, but it's still pretty good

[@alive527]

Also since I'm here I'ma day this now. He is still almost op af, and it's not his gun. Ubisoft thinks his gun is why he gets picked, and sure some people do that, but it has always been his ability that people pick for. Until they find a way to change his ability to make it lessened, or they nerf utility meta, he will always be high pick rate. But honestly, I think that's fine, as utility is a key part of siege. So instead of nerfing him, make another utility denier, and buff wamai some more, make other options

[@eobardthawne3301]

15:47 that was Shawk btw

[@DuskYokai]

I think the discussion is tricky on one hand he was broken for a time but on the other hes just viable in every game with how many throwsble and shootable gadgets there are for attackers with more added every so often. I think for a while he needed nerfs but he became a very well rounded balanced operator but due to his versatility his pick rate stayed high and ubi constantly balances off pick rate its gotten to the point where i think some of his nerfs are more petty and unjust then actually beneficial to the games health like his ammo nerf. Keep in mind i hardly play jager i dont care to play him myself this is from an unbiased source about jager. As long as his gadget does what it does I don't think there will every be a reason to not consider picking him but constant nerfs create an unhealthy opinion for the devs too

[@iTz_Scrim]

I agree, he is nerfed. I mained him for 4 yrs and I'm sad they nerfed him to the ground.

[@Inquisitor-Doi]

Kind of the reason they nerfed him, i play a bit of everyone

[@aa-kz7hc]

he deserved to get nerfed, he had 3 speed, good gun, and a very useful gadget that allowed him to roam but still be usefull to his team even if he died. these were all the things that made jagers pick rate so high.

[@Inquisitor-Doi]

@@aa-kz7hc there are most often reasons for nurfing characters.

[@justinwoolhiser5120]

Muzzle break on 416 is the move since the recoil change

[@paul7658]

Is this true

[@justinwoolhiser5120]

@@paul7658 go into a tdm and try it out. Both comp and muzzle break feel much better than flash hider now. But the first shot recoil is a lot. Try it out see what you like best

[@MetalGearBronya]

Sadly I can only use flash hider on it cause the muzzle flash just disorients my view and I can't fight what I can't see lol

[@chileam]

@@MetalGearBronya my problem aswell

[@Zygecks]

I also use Muzzle

[@richplatypusthomas5630]

what event was that jager skin from?

[@gavalant366]

They could give him the UMP or the M12 and he'll still be a useful operator just because of the nature of how throwables (and wasting them) can change the entire tide of a round.

[@AyoKeito]

Someday Ubisoft will understand that you can not only nerf operators, but buff useless ones. This day Siege will be saved. Jaeger gun is irrelevant. He is picked because of his utility. Might as well remove his guns altogether.

[@Dude-do8vo]

and that's good, why should an operator with an amazing gadget also have an amazing gun? and Siege is already saved...the more of your kind leaving the better

[@MinnueteCVP]

@@Dude-do8vo yea, the less people the game has the better, best way to save siege is by killing it lol.

[@yuriibondar3757]

@@Dude-do8vo tell me you're a new player without telling me you're a new player.

[@AyoKeito]

@@Dude-do8vo nah, he doesn't *need* to have an amazing gun. But maybe the solution is to buff useless operators, instead of nerfing useful ones? How about we start with Glaz or Blackbeard? Operators with real problems.

[@I_JPToxic_I]

@@Dude-do8vo wooo yea less people playing=game saved

[@snack_bar2474]

Jager mains are determined. I never saw this level of dedication for Blackbeard.

[@lllXanderlll]

Jager's three speed is clearly the problem, well no actually it's his gun it does too much damage, no actually it's the recoil being too low, no no actually it's the amount of bullets in the mag, no actually it's that the gadget is set and forget and has two charges. When are we going to be honest with ourselves, Ubi ? The problem is the meta is so goddamn dependent on grenades that no matter what you do to Jager he is still going to be picked and picked quite a lot. You have to know it, I mean why else do you rotate frags off of a high pick op and put them on low pick ops as a way to improve their pick rate ?

[@Quack4519]

Instead of nerfing Jäger they should change so Wamai starts the round with 3 mag-NETs instead of 1 and see if that changes anything. or They could maybe nerf the range of Jäger's ADS or buff the range of the ADS, but reduce the amount of ADS's to 2 from 3

[@ayxse.]

How to fix R6 Tracker from freezing ? It won’t show operators and performance stats accurately :|

[@potatofuryy]

Lol I used to be a Hibana-Jäger main back in the good old days.

[@jittelol]

R6Tracker hasn’t updated operators statistics in like 6 months…

[@copasetik]

Is this an issue with the API? It’s on Ubisofts end right? Has anyone heard of anything? Just regarding when they’ll fix it - or if they’ll fix it? Has it been addressed at all? It would be so awesome to have all the stats shown on the official Ubisoft stats website!! The problem with ubisofts site is that it takes forever to update, updates at inconsistent rates and variables, and (this goes for both) it’s hard to know if it’s 100% accurate. It seems to miss some things or some games? Does anyone have any info or have heard anything about r6 tracker stats or just stats in general? Thanks!

[@gavinteachout2701]

All I'm going to say if they do make the switch you said at the end jager better get the 1.5 on the ump

[@eastynsamoy4344]

I was goin crazy with him today ngl I didn’t even know there was a nerf

[@detcader_]

I think Ubisoft should buff alternatives instead of nerfing jager, this might be extreme but it could be giving aruni mp5 or slightly buffing Wamai’s gadget (maybe make it destroy utility like jäger)

[@matthewroy6242]

Came back to siege after about 2 years and the only difference was 1 new map a few operators and a whole lot of nerfs

[@Yilmaister]

I use compensator on Jäger now, works like a charm

[@ryangarcia5670]

As a castle main this seems good. I wasn't around for the days of him being a God have only been around for 2 years in the game, but I t think I have enough knowledge to Safley agree with most of the points in the video.

[@predalien34]

0:14-0:21 Black beard mains: First time?

[@ArthurWorldZero]

For me "The vertical kick" is impacting the most , almost a year i dont play r6 and its suprise me how ubisoft destroy 416-C so much , i just want to punch my monitor when i keep miss the shoot cuz the vertical kick ...

[@marcushaas44]

I like that weapon switch idea 💡

[@theodoody3520]

Castle with the 4-16 would be very powerful, and I'm ok with that because I fucking love playing Castle

[@wayne7135]

Jaeger in r6 is like wraith in apex, on release the were op now not so much but it's became part of the culture of the game

[@janaius]

What reticle color are you using?

[@bbcmotd]

The most overnerfed operator is Melusi. She was fun when she released but then Ubisoft took away her gun and made her gadget useless.

[@noobtube9551]

I wasn't playing during that(i started in shadow legacy) but the t5 for an op like that was too much imo and in her current state she is still good for intel,cc and utility waste

[@jj.jayjay.]

I actually perfer the MP5, Melusi is 3 speed with MP5 and good gadget.

[@darkgod6355]

You wanna know what's crazy the fact he said ow like he felt smoke shoot him its crazy how much we get involved into a game like siege

[@Zpicific]

Would love to see him switch weapons with Castle 😆

[@strike4digi]

Blackbeard : welcome to the party

[@mariomendez7599]

When I use to play, his gadget overtime was pretty useless. His gun is the only thing people liked in my opinion. They should maybe make him a 3 speed again.

[@johndes_]

remove an ADS and revert the recoil and magazine changes simple fix imo

[@mega-armed1632]

I see Doc is your top-3 defenders, so do you think Doc is fine where he is or should be buffed? I just returned after 3 years of not playing the game so I'm kinda biased but still don't like how he was almost completely overshadowed by Thunderbird

[@gibbygibberson655]

I still think that Jager is a very solid op despite all the nerfs. I still prefer the Aug on wamai but play jager more.

[@practixally]

I enjoy his gun so honestly if his gun ever gets changed there’s enough people I end up playing with that use him too so I’ll drop him for good. I’ve been roaming and flanking a lot lately so I’d just stay with Vigil or something on defense

[@BigTendyT]

Am I the only one that uses him because he looks cool?

[@jarmo4913]

How did you change attachment color to that

[@felixicuss]

I play Jäger, because I dont want to get grenaded. Unfortunately Ubisoft gave Grenades to the two most used attackers

[@royboy5703]

It's the change of his gun for me

[@PPhheeww]

As a Castle main I support the gun swap idea.

[@crossfire2045]

Love how pre-recoil and after recoils didn't change much except for the pick rate. This goes to show that on average the players still using Jager are just doing a bit worse than all the average of all the players who use to play Jager a lot or actually possibly doing better based on the rules of taking averages. For an easy example, say 8 players played Jager pre-nerf and 3 of them pulled a positive K/D and 5 pulled a negative K/D the average K/D is overall more negative but say post nerf only 6 players played Jager and 4 of them pulled a negative K/D the overall K/D would be more negative than pre-nerf. Since there are less players using him now the overall average K/D will change more per person who uses that character. It's a learning curve now to use his weapon but it also forced more diversity into the game. PS: Someone can probably plug some realistic K/Ds and see that this would be true.

[@sgthaddix2604]

problem is ubi doesn’t look at k/d they just look at how often they’re picked

[@i3eardedshepherd125]

Love the ump😍and the idea

[@htv_therealog8243]

Jager is kinda like the spitfire in apex no matter what you do to it people will always still use it.

[@zer0.tw0]

"I literally had 1 hp" And you can thank Papa Rook for your life.

[@nyxfred]

I like the UMP so I'm fine with it. Just maybe... just slightly buff the RPM. Pulse and castle are fun but not fun going up against players that just run high RPM guns and you can't really compete with the UMP. It's what people nowadays would call a balanced gun in a none-balanced meta

[@quetele3403]

When are you going to make more match replay vids

[@The-Chief-Sweep]

The problem is that they just kept nerfing him because of a tiny part of the community who could deal with the nerfs but didn’t think of the rest of us like for a decent number of people on consoles his gun is really hard to control

[@snoopdogg5339]

As an average console player I wish they'd revert the recoil nerf. It put me off playing him for good. I feel his gun should have 30+1 again with the lower recoil (so his ASSAULT RIFLE can actually take on long range engagements) and only give him 2 ADS.

[@Miniduck9013]

I completely agree with the castle jager gun switch

[@ryangarcia5670]

Same.

[@dehpefforzapefforza]

to me it was incredibly irritating how they kept nerfing him patch after patch. (of course they went a little too far with his nerfs too cause you know Ubisoft)

[@gamecommand9421]

I play on xbox in gold 2 lobbies but I don't really see Jager being use much/at all anymore

[@seizFN]

Straight nerfing him into the ground

[@isaiahstrain.]

You need to do a video with thorn m870

[@casey_7543]

R6Tracker won't update my ops play timer thing for some reason. Says I have 1 min on goyo when I have probably played several hours this season alone, not to mention last season as him. Maybe I am using it wrong lol.

[@thealphastrudel]

Whats your sensitivity settings?

[@itzAceSlayer]

Yo honestly could u imagine a year where they switch every op gun and speed

[@cheeseshit999]

Can someone explain how ash and jager are everyones number 1 op when they can only be used once per round?

[@bitingsea3194]

SInce his AR has become pretty hard to use for me, I've been running his shotty and it's been extremely good. Powerful gadget, great shotgun, decent pistol.

[@hanswong287]

Thunderbird is a three-speed operator, equipped with rifle + Japanese hand charge + C4? Isn't she stronger? Compared to Jaeger, she is too strong? GLAZ's playing probability and skills are unwilling to make any compromises and changes so far, and now Ubisoft's team is really suck

[@HarryKnuttsachs]

I play on console and I find it very difficult to control the recoil on Jäger's rifle. It's not impossible, just hard for me.

[@DMVKIvak]

Agreed, it feels very bouncy and bubbly. I am pretty good with recoil, but yeah is definitely one of the tougher guns to learn to control.

[@jerrythekazzyy]

Using the muzzle break helped me.

[@StepBroJohnny]

As a Jäger main it’s not that bad but it does jump left and right a lot which you can’t really control

[@copasetik]

@@StepBroJohnny Compensator would help this if that’s the issue (left and right)

[@StepBroJohnny]

@@copasetik thank you

[@connor-1724]

He’s my tip operator and I haven’t used him In months

[@tebatray]

I 100% agree i think the op ops guns need to be switched for balancing reasons.

[@ud91200]

its actually insane how good his game sense is

[@seniorpaco2130]

He definitely hasnt been nerfed that much, plus i mean if we are gonna talk about an op being nerfed too much we should be looking at blackbeard, the poor man needs to just have a rework at this point.

[@egg8174]

I used to main castle…give him an elite skin and the 416 and I’m going back

[@felipemiguel9907]

I've never liked to play jaeger, I prefer fast firing weapons like Lesion's smg and Osa's smg

[@StepBroJohnny]

I say buff all the worse ops and give Jäger his 3 speed or bullets back, and give Jäger kali scope on the shotty

[@sheesh8757]

Jager with 1.5 should be fine or am I talking crazy rn?

[@lordd0ngur18]

People really think jaegers recoil is uncontrollable?? That blows my mind