Was Johnny Ramone a Racist? | Marky Ramone on "The Cain Conversation"

[@murdosammacleod3782]

Interviewer "was Johnny a racist?" Marky "he used to eat sardines in the van"

[@selfhelp69]

Saahdines.

[@josecabildo1207]

But I don’t hate Johnny his strong personality is something you need , especially if you wanna go up the creek with no canoe

[@davestuddaman8127]

He woud do things to be an assholes, sometimes. Who hasn't done that from time to time?!!

[@harrylisa607]

Yeah just bypass the part where Marky said that Johnny used racial slurs and collected nazi memorabilia

[@davestuddaman8127]

@@harrylisa607 Marky has said a lot of things over the years. Unless you, Harry ever heard it. I don't give a sht.

[@Muppio]

Honestly, i think Johnny wouldn't give two fucks what anybody thinks of his beliefs and such.

[@GilbertSyndrome]

He didn't.

[@adrenalinflow]

Neither did Hitler

[@adrenalinflow]

@@skodbruger5344 notzee alarm triggered 🚨

[@YogsenForfoth]

He was a fascist. A cringey, scummy fascist.

[@TheRigomoni]

too late the rumor is official

[@metaldams78]

Lemmy wore Nazi memorabilia regularly simply because he liked it from a fashion sense. Lemmy was also a well read man who despised Nazis. Collecting Nazi memorabilia does not necessarily make one a Nazi.

[@metaldams78]

Where did you hear Lemmy say he does not despise Nazi's? He hated every leader in WWII...and rightfully so in my book. The black girlfriend line is was his defense when he was accused of being a Nazi due to what he wore.

[@gilwood7530]

So did Ron from THE STOOGES ...Even Steve from SWEET wore his HITLER get up

[@jeffsims8270]

Ron Ashton (The Stooges) was the same way. He collected nazi memorabilia with his father as it was a common bond they had. He claims that it had nothing to do with politics and it was just a fascination they both had.

[@CoomerGremlinDGGfan]

I collect nazi memorabilia and im not a nazi. Lots of people do.

[@Stinkydo0d]

I always say this: If collecting Nazi stuff makes your a fascist Nazi, then collecting stamps makes you a post man.

[@Antnj81]

Something about this feels really wrong. I mean Johnny wasn't even around to defend himself against these accusations, so why even discuss something like this? I mean, other than Marky's words, there's absolutely no evidence that he ever ate sardines in the van. 🤷🏻

[@creamcannon825]

JOHNNY DIDN'T STINK UP THE VAN THESE ARE FALSE ALLEGATIONS

[@leahflower9924]

because haters gonna hate

[@Bits-n-Bobsss]

I don't think marky would have made these allegations if Johnny were still alive. Tells you everything about his credibility.

[@dgenerated]

It is wrong, but these are the times we live in, where if Johnny were to make one racial comment directed at one person, then suddenly that means his hatred is directed at an entire group of people!. I'm guessing he didn't have issues with Jews as both Joey and Tommy were Jewish and Tommy's parents were both holocaust survivors and even after leaving the band, Tommy continued his friendship with his fellow Ramones and continued producing their albums!. This is merely one video and one man's commentary and since Johnny is not here to defend himself, it's one-sided!..

[@LongGone77]

It's not only wrong, it's lame. super lame. and cringe. In fact, what I'm about to say might be wrong too, but: I'm glad Johnny isn't around in this day and age to see how irritating, cringy and lame the post-Ramones world is. Full of try-hard social climbers and hysteria seekers who think shouting "racist" at others immediately alleviates them from any wrongdoing. They're typically just people overcompensating to hide their own problematic pasts.

[@shaunweiss438]

Well, Eddie Vedder was one of Johnny's closest friends, and I don't think Eddie would have been if Johnny was as racist or cruel as he is made out to be, as I don't think he is the kind of person who would tolerate that sort of thing.

[@rafaelcrespo]

Xavier Roberts you wrong

[@ignaciocordovadonoso8662]

Johnny was also friends with Joe Strummer, on the opposite side of the political spectrum. Johnny Ramone was a very strange person, admirer of both Hitler and Charles Manson but also a Disney and a Baseball fan; racist to the bone, a woman beater, a former juvenile delinquent who claimed for televised public executions for thieves; and an Elvis fan who alleged that blues wasn't all that important in the development of rock 'n' roll (?). He was also a proud bully who bragged about having beat Malcolm McLaren just because he didn't like him talking to his girlfriend, among other things.

[@kadonheb1119]

Ignacio Córdova Donoso if he did beat up malcom Mcclaren that’s pretty cool, racist and women beating not so much

[@adrianshephard378]

@@ignaciocordovadonoso8662 He wasn't racist

[@elijahloveell8809]

Corporal Shephard Yes he was. Dude was a Nazi

[@robribant6716]

What am I supposed to do with this information.

[@Brandywine6969]

Keep enjoying the Ramones' music like always, if you always did before. If you are a fan, you are a fan. That's our role in this. Fans. We love the music. Personal beliefs of band members and political leanings of band members are just history now, ironically.

[@GilbertSyndrome]

Laugh at it.

[@stereosanctity7]

Store it like everything else 🤘

[@rileyrosswalker]

I think Marky was trying to be calm and avoid the question for many reasons. Johnny was a far-right republican and Reagan fan. It's hard to say whether he was some abject racist, but regardless people need to stop shitting on Marky. He was simply holding his tongue there. What we know for sure was that Joey was your run-of-the-mill hippie liberal while Johnny was mister big-time conservative.

[@Brandywine6969]

I agree.

[@Brandywine6969]

@MemphoWrasslin1 Yep. The interviewer was trying to get a headline, trying to sensationalize what was actually said. I read Marky's book. There was nothing sensationalist in the book. It was a well written, enjoyable to read, book. That Johnny ate the tuna in the van was just a funny anecdote. That Johnny didn't get along with Joey was well known information before the book came out.

[@kookadams85]

Better to be on the right than the left 💯

[@YesOkayButWhy]

Original comment in this thread is spot on. And to counteract another comment I'd rather live in a world full of Jeff Hymans than John Cummings. But I love both as a Ramones fan.

[@MJAce85]

I'm 6 years late, but I just got this in my feed today. You don't know the meanings of the words you're using and I can almost guarantee that you're the type of person who paints with a broad brush. You said he was a "Far right republican Reagan fan." Anyone truly on the right does not identify as a Republican, and wouldn't consider themselves a big Reagan fan. I have a feeling that, to you, being a Republican puts you on the far right, and that "far" right is the only type of "right" you think exists. I'm pretty far right, many of my friends are too, and I can legitimately say that none of us are racists or fascists. And definitely don't consider ourselves Republicans.

[@TommyType1]

KKK Took My Baby Away

[@GoogleAccount-jg5vd]

Joey wrote that bc he ended up in an asylum and he met a black girl there, who he got really close to. One day she just wasn't there and he flipped, eventually writing the song.

[@jdessell]

Bullshit. I mean that may have happened but KKK was about Johnny stealing Joey's girlfriend.

[@ARWMusic]

jdessell but it wasnt tho

[@adrianshephard378]

@@ARWMusic it was

[@Haseo92]

@@adrianshephard378 it wasn't

[@supermariozombies4824]

It's been said before by people that really knew him. Part of it was real and part of it was an act. Like the fact the Johnny carried a KKK member card in his wallet. Which is a fact. I saw Johnny kick the shit out a young girl at a show because she reached up and touched his guitar while he was playing. I was standing right behind her. He kicked hard in the head 3 times and then motioned to security and had her and her boyfriend thrown out of the show. It was a really shocking thing to witness and I've seen a lot of fucked up things happen at concerts. Happened at the Brooklyn Zoo in the early to mid 80's. It was totally uncalled for. I felt so bad for that girl.

[@stratocaster-dn7gt]

Sounds like a load of horseshit to me

[@sensacionsombria5125]

yeah right

[@leahflower9924]

Ben weasel punched a woman I still listen to screeching weasel

[@ambitionx1639]

bullshit, prove it.

[@GilbertSyndrome]

Excellent story, fella. When's the movie due?

[@fourtriangles2112]

I recently watched a video where Johnny was signing autographs...one after the other after the other, he seemed like a pretty reasonable guy, he didn't have to do that, lots of people who knew him personally liked him. This interviewer is just digging & digging trying to get a shocking answer, the big scoop to build a narrative & defame somebody he probably never knew...bad press...leave Johnny alone.

[@heyholetsgo]

fourtriangles2112 I got a skate deck signed by Johnny when that Loud, Fast, Ramones CD came out.

[@mj.l]

even fascists sign autographs

[@heyholetsgo]

Michael hell ya, Ramones forever!!

[@JohnDoe-mp1zk]

I think it was a book review and valid questions one might have if they read the book

[@Vichedges]

Give me a break Mike. You idiots who run around calling everyone a fascist kill me.

[@landlinesandpercolators8822]

I'm not defending anybody but being just a few years younger than the Ramones, I can tell you growing up in the 60s and 70s as a white kid you were very much surrounded by prejudiced thinking and language towards most minorities. Particularly in a lower middle class setting probably. But it was pretty much all just talk, and certainly as the times wore on began to fade (as they are still fading). I'm sure in the black community there was a lot of salty racial stereotyping. I think it's all sad and wrong, but in these days of painting with the broadest brush possible it may be helpful to add some context and reality.

[@kungpao-wp2sq]

Your comment is right on, I was about to post the same thing. It was a different time back then and if you didn’t live johnnys life you can’t judge.

[@leahflower9924]

from a sociological perspective you are correct

[@paulojalaska6896]

In NY, black people has a thousand slur names for italian people

[@leahflower9924]

@@paulojalaska6896 my grandparents were form NYC they had names for everyone, but had non white friends also

[@101Volts]

Let's not forget that they all grew up while leaded gasoline was still a gigantic and widespread thing, and they were in NYC of all places, which had some of the worst air pollution in the country. All that leaded gas exhaust was an anti-brain food, so it had to mess with them in some way. Might be part of why Joey's OCD was so bad, but that's just poor speculation on my part.

[@stevejones8660]

Marky Ramone. The biggest wig in the business.

[@guymontag9577]

Sorry, that would be a tie between Fee Waybill of the Tubes, or Dee Snyder. Of course their wigs were for comic effect not shyness.

[@notelijah4650]

@@guymontag9577 ? Dee sniders hair is real

[@ogan2631]

@@guymontag9577 Dee Snider's hair is real??

[@revivedfears]

@@ogan2631 yeah Snider's hair is deffo real. He might have had stuff done but it's not a wig.

[@Vichedges]

It is dumb how Marky is still trying to look how he did in 1980. It’s like if Paul McCartney was still walking around with that Beatle haircut and Beatle Boots in 2024.

[@titoramone4465]

Dead men tell no tales... Marky could say Johnny taped hot dogs to his forehead off stage-- how's Johnny gonna respond? He's dead!

[@ignaciocordovadonoso8662]

Well, Marky's not the only one who says Johnny was a racist. Not only that, he was a bigot, and an woman beater too. Even if in his autobiography, he seems to be proud of being a bully, first a juvenile delinquent and later an angry boy who beat people for very stupid reasons.

[@titoramone4465]

@@ignaciocordovadonoso8662 I wasn't in the band and didn't have access to him 24/7/365... So, i can only take these rumors/stories/allegations with a grain of salt...

[@aaaaaa-aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

@@titoramone4465 it has never been a secret that he was extremely racist but changed with time

[@adrianshephard378]

@@ignaciocordovadonoso8662 Your definition of racism is probably me not giving 500 dollars to black guy just for existing

[@ccunit666]

@@ignaciocordovadonoso8662 liberals such as kurt Cobain support woman bashing men abortion drug use and abandoning your children but that's ok I guess because the media programs young people to be nazi liberals

[@wahivalleys3011]

After reading many of the comments, it would appear that many people believe a liberal can't be racist, only conservatives. Regardless, The Ramones were awesome and so was the music. That's why I loved them, not because politics or social nonsense. Wahi' Valleys

[@HangYourLocalWEFpuppet]

Left = good Right = bad Some people view their views as the only moral answer. Its a dangerous way to view the world.

[@hansjuker8296]

People are complicated. So are politics. The only OVERT racism I've ever seen in my life is against whites.

[@bluetanaka7471]

Look who cares ocd, heroin addict, right wing, whatever that's their business. We liked or loved their music right.

[@MarkBrydondrums85]

Technically left wing are the racists!!

[@AStri-zg5xc]

Ramones ❤

[@-roejogan-]

I've got right wing family that say n***er all the time. They're racist.

[@Brandywine6969]

The music was the greatness. People are flawed. People are people. The music stands still today. The music is what fans are concerned more with, or at least that is the important part to me.

[@Brandywine6969]

@@-roejogan- I do too. You can't change their mind. Just do you and be you. Do what you think is right for you. That's all you can do.

[@chutupfool]

NOW I WANNA SELL SOME BOOKS

[@mikeyshmelby2291]

Now I wanna have something to read.

[@diamondmiles8462]

@@mikeyshmelby2291 DUN-DUN DUN-DUN-DUN DUN- DUN.

[@RolandDuke]

Ha!!!

[@gasher83]

KZbin gold right here

[@Scarface13]

Gotta gotta read hey

[@bigfootisaliar1027]

Marky waited till johnny was goid and dead before he started saying this shit. Zero integrity, and I live Marky Ramone. You did yourself no favors with this stuff, Mark.

[@bigfootisaliar1027]

good and dead I meant.

[@hvafaenskaljeghete1800]

They spoke crap about each other back in the days too Joey And Johnny hated each other from 1981 until joeys death in 2001 and marky and johnny hated each other The only members in the ramones that didnt have anything against Joey was Tommy and CJ the rest of the members picked on Joey

[@fugazi_]

Not to forget Richie who was very fond of Joey at his time in the Ramones, and stayed friends with him till his passing away.

[@fscott3208]

Here's A breakdown... Johnny was a Staunch Conservative with a dark sense of Humor. Joey was a Hardcore Liberal...... And Conservative's LOVE to get Liberals in a Panic. It makes their Day. And i think, especially after the problem with Linda transpired, that Johnny REALLY became a Fascist in Joey's eyes. Joey wrote THE KKK TOOK MY BABY AWAY.... even poor Monte Melnick has said on record..."read the lyrics, listen to the song...". ( Johnny was also reputed to carry a KKK membership card in his wallet, but i think it was just something to freak people out with, though if so... It's a pretty lame way to do so.) What Marky doesn't seem to answer is the direct question... Did Johnny collect Nazi stuff? Johnny doesn't seem the type, as he was more interested in Horror movie posters and baseball cards. I honestly think Racism was MAYBE there, but not something he dwelled on too Seriously. The person who DID collect Nazi stuff WAS Dee Dee. He grew up in Germany and has said on record that that was just something kids did back in the days when you could scour areas of battle and find and trade things. But i don't think that this made Dee Dee a racist. Dee Dee's Major concern was getting through a full day of being Dee Dee. At the end of the day? I think the Fascist card was just something played out between Joey and Johnny for WHATEVER reason only known to them. I think Johnny viewed a Black RAMONES Fan no different than a Latino Fan ...or a Jewish Fan ...or an Asian Fan ...or a White Fan. A RAMONES Fan is a RAMONES Fan. .....unless you were a Commie. ( ...he Hated Commies !!! 😆)

[@tom3618]

Your one of the people in the comments with a decent IQ

[@gretashapiro4118]

If you hate commies then you're a racist

[@reverendandy3279]

This is probably the closest to the truth. Marky will hem and haw around it, trying to sell his shitty book. Johnny isn't with us anymore, so he can't respond. I cannot fathom Johnny being a racist, but I bet he liked to say and do things to raise eyebrows for fun.

[@cenitri]

@@gretashapiro4118 comunist is not a race, your comment makes no sense. Johnny would never get along with tom morello, the biggest commie in business along with Roger waters

[@opaljk4835]

Right, but as it turns out was not written about Johnny. I can see how you could see the lyrics that way, but otherwise it’s apparently a mistake by monte. Johnny is famously a huge dickhead. I don’t think he was out to get Joeys goat as much as it annoyed him that Joey was into what he was. they relied on each other for their living and I assume the animosity has way more to do with Johnny marrying Linda than anything else. But being prejudiced isn’t really surprising or something that needs defending. He lived unapologetically, and we don’t need to apologize or make excuses for it. He just was what he was.

[@Phil-kf6lt]

Sucks Johnny cant say anything about this.

[@dewdude2112]

So? What would you expect...."johnny" to say. He doesn't even use his real name. Why would he care about being honest to you?

[@Gurra88]

Lots of famous musicians don't use their "real" names. No need to be a Karen

[@dewdude2112]

@@Gurra88 Ha...good one! "Karen"....how clever. Yes I am well aware entertainers change their names....like one of my favorites Alex Lifeson, for example. Thanks for the heads up. : /

[@stedmangg]

@@dewdude2112 So your conclusion is that since he uses a stage name, he's not an honest person? Dumb logic.

[@dewdude2112]

@@stedmangg No it's fine. It was more of a comment on do people actually tell the real truth in situations like this. Who's to say? I must admit one of my faves is...Alex Lifeson. But I can;t blame him TOO much, his real name is a mouthful! And it's wasn;t part of the band schtick either. But...all good Ramones rock.

[@hvafaenskaljeghete1800]

He treated poor Joey like garbage but in the end Joey got the last laugh Joey was more popular than Johnny ever were and Johnny retired in 1998 while Joey had shows around in new york until 2000 and worked on a solo album plus he was worth around 5-6 million dollars at the time of his death

[@YesOkayButWhy]

Pretty sure John didn't want to do music at that point. He was very done. But yeah, both great men but Joey had a pure and beautiful soul.

[@passionfortrains4538]

Johnny retired after the ramone's last show, ge didn't want to keep going. And he was worth 10 milions at the time of his death.

[@bigman5408]

@@exithero Stole?

[@eivindgjengstjohansen9625]

​@@YesOkayButWhy Marky was the only ramone to visit Joey he brought him a CD player and CD's

[@JF-em6hr]

It's in the book that I'm trying to sell so it must be true.

[@mtp4430]

😂

[@reverendandy3279]

"If you want my real answer, buy my garbage book."

[@leahflower9924]

haha exactly johnny admitted he was an s.o.b as long as he was sincere he was a true punk who played fast that's all that matters

[@444Bam]

Johnny had a large collection of Reggae lps, one of his favorite was Marley and he even had a black bass player "Alan" in PIL ... I've seen black punk rockers in the 70s wearing nazi swastikas

[@gbmistake3776]

He's referring to Johnny Ramone, not John Lydon.

[@charissecoal]

Some punks wore swastikas to cause a stir. True punks wore swastikas upside down as a mocking gesture

[@JBmusicart]

@Heather Mooney yeah but once Hitler used it, it became something else.

[@ccunit666]

@@charissecoal heard of neo nazi skinhead punk? Ska jamaican boy reggae and. Punk rock

[@gilwood7530]

Two different Johnnys buddy ... Punk was such a fun feeling wayyyy back when ... A LOT of offensive stuff was said and wore on shirts .... That was kind of part of it

[@frankjackson2964]

Johnny ramone was definitely not a racist, he was a sweetheart

[@colecarter8570]

ok john lydon lol

[@bud389]

This video is laughable. I would be hesitant to take anything he's saying with even a grain of salt since it's pretty widely known that Marky and Johnny despised each other.

[@leahflower9924]

johnny despised a lot of people lol loved the dude he was so NY

[@naruto199797]

These days I don't believe people like Mark and Johnny would be able to work together because of today's political climate there would be a lot of infighting verbally and physically words like nazi and snowflake going back and forth and one or the other or both would leave the band

[@richardrybinski2320]

do you know anything about the Ramones? They couldn't stand each other...20 plus years with the same guys in a van will do it to anyone...

[@isetmfriendsofire]

LMAO

[@docdeens4030]

the tension is exactly why it worked

[@Skulliandrum]

Mark and Johnny got along great...until Mark became a drunken idiot and got replaced by Ritchie

[@leahflower9924]

@@Skulliandrum lol i almost forgot marky actually got replaced and didn't quit or take a break i prefer richie

[@johngaller278]

Lots of people collect military memorabilia... Joey was a big lib and Johnny was a conservative.. Marky blocked my Instagram after years of chat that even included personal texts because I slipped up and accidentally called him a rock star ! It was jokes ! Marky is a bit thin skinned. Dee Dee was my favorite Ramone. Period. Douglas Colvin was my punk rock spirit animal. I grew up in the Midwest and I saw the Ramones 27 times before Dee Dee left the band.

[@BlinkCake182]

I'm no sherlock holmes, but just looking at markys body language and the way he talks like it really feels like he doesnt even believe in his own words like just bounces off what joey said Interviewer "Was Johnny a racist" " *stall* talks about sardines", Interviewer again asks the same question " err you know like joey said he was a facist... so you know it all goes together..." Yeah mate you nailed it

[@meinhoffendant]

You're nearly there. He doesn't want to slander a man he loved; aka he doesn't want to tell the truth because today it isn't "kosher". He's defending a mate, though struggling to do it. Johnny was was a full time racist and proud of it

[@metalinyourhead3604]

Why’s he trying to pry and answer out of Marky as to wether or not Johnny was a racist? It’s pretty clear that he doesn’t want to disrespect his dead band mates. I wonder, if Joey and the others never died, would they have made up and played again?

[@Brandywine6969]

It was like he was trying to sensationalize a tiny snippet from the book. The majority of the book was about the band, life, events that happened through the years, and a small portion was about day to day dealing with each other on tour, things any band goes through. Ask any band, they'll tell you about being cooped up with each other for hours and hours, day after day, just eventually are at each other's throats, until they learn to deal with each other and get through it. It's part of growing up. It's part of anyone's life to learn to deal with different personalities. And yes, tuna fish will stink up a tight space like inside a van, lol. They toured in vans back then.

[@michaelcaraccia7819]

HE ATE SARDINES IN THE VAN?????? THAT SICKO. WHAT CHAPTER IS THAT IN ????

[@emmettnunez8506]

Arturo Vega was mexican and tagged along with them for a long time and i never heard of Johnny and him having any issues..

[@letsparty4640]

R.I.P Johnny

[@godzilla1806]

Rip Johnny

[@RichardDickGrayson]

August 30, 2016 In a world filled with perfect people, everyone would get along. But we dont live in such a world (at the current moment), and people are not perfect and all have prejudices. Its human nature to discriminate in general (ie types of people or things, that one likes or doesnt like). So what if Johnny was a "racist", murder and theft are worse behaviors than racial slurs or "racist" thinking-- yet in todays world many are far more shocked by differing views and opinions, than by theft or murder. I dont agree with everything that Johnny believed, but I actually admire the fact that he was "politically incorrect" (so few are in today's world). And it actually makes me like Johnny even more. DG

[@DaveStrummer100]

well said

[@RichardDickGrayson]

Dave Strummer Thank you.

[@HonRevPTB]

RIGHT ON!!!!!!! WELL SAID!!!

[@ac1dP1nk]

ooh an apology for irrational hatred and weakness

[@RichardDickGrayson]

+ac1dP1nk "ooh an apology for irrational hatred and weakness" Where is the apology, or what you call the "irrational hatred and weakness"?

[@ethanellis2896]

Both Dee Dee and Johnny had their political views on certain matters and you see the uncomfortably of Mark's views but it shouldn't be taken away at any case in terms of their music and legacy. Joey was the left Johnny was the right But those were of different times. Let's not go "sensitive" on this....

[@Brandywine6969]

I usually hate it when someone says that about not being sensitive about things, but you do have a point in this case. It was what it was. They still made great music and from most of the songs, the left won out lyrically most of the time, even if some songs went the other way too. It gave us the great music we have now, even if Johnny was a Republican. He definitely WAS a Republican. He made no bones about that, said it himself. So, the other stuff often does come with the territory politically.

[@leahflower9924]

@@Brandywine6969 according to wikipedia dee dee was a republican too y'all gonna bash Dee Dee next?

[@SrSacaninha]

0:57 what happened to his voice? Sounds like an old lady...

[@jennimadden1061]

Some old ladies are cool :D

[@kellikocha7733]

Johnny Ramone was based

[@rosecitystud1908]

Marky basically says no but doesn't answer to sell his book. So not technically throwing Johnny under the bus but I completely blame the interviewer for trying so hard to paint Johnny like that.

[@Godloveszaza]

Johnny used the hard r before and Marky spoke on that as well. He never ended up saying he was he just asserted how irritated it made him since he grew up in a family who preached that color didn't matter.

[@Oddrockz]

I mean I Don’t think Marky really wanted to go into that but was really getting cornered by the interviewer.

[@harveysengersmusic247]

Marky was always more a buisnesman than anything else.

[@JoWasHere79]

RIP Great Johnny Ramone

[@karringtonshrigley2928]

Speaking evil of the dead - way to go Marky. Johnny can't defend himself...

[@ignacio9813]

Well, i concur with you , Johnny's not here to defend himself .. BUT , marky's saying that from his point of view I think.

[@289rory]

Nah, fuck you. Big fan of them all, despite their beliefs, because to me, it's about the music. Yet, they were all getting along, a band, I doubt that was his intention at all. Marky told it how it was. This was common knowledge among fans even before the book, and before this interview. Johnny was a racist sack of shit with good music. Leave it there.

[@mrhomes204]

Why should we care about the right of a racist fascist to defend himself?

[@mj.l]

all fascists SHOULD be dead

[@hellsunicorn]

I seriously doubt you've fucked anything in your life other than yourself, assuming you even still possess the equipment given what everyone knows about Antifa and those sympathetic to them.

[@rackaid14]

Johnny was racist though. He frequently used the n word as a racial slur according to marky, his ex gf and his tour manager, a black and chinese bassist auditioned for the band and johnny made names for them such as “spook ramone” or “LiLi Ramone” which was used to make fun of them.. he also said many more stuff racist things. Stop pulling the “marky is calling him racist for disagreeing with him card” johnny was clearly a racist. I’m still a big fan of the ramones and respect johnny but he indeed was a racist guy.. thank you for those who read this whole paragraph!

[@leahflower9924]

i mean he was most respected by me and most for being the awesome guitar player who played super fast, he's gone the second he died no one needs to bring how up how racist he was or not. i like led zeppelin people talk even less about jimmy page being a satanist and liking way younger females, people listen to al green james brown even though people knew they were women beaters etc......

[@ayemod2k]

@@leahflower9924 johnny boy a racist deal with it

[@GilbertSyndrome]

Well, that sounds like complete bollocks, but I applaud your determination.

[@donjuanmckenzie4897]

Based

[@rocknroll_jezus9233]

But racism is funny so therefore based

[@robertwarren3278]

Johnny Ramone is my favorite Ramone, and I don't think he was an actual racist. He had strong opinions and he was on the right politically, which did set him apart from the rest of the band.

[@mrkrinkle72]

I've got a German helmet & i'm no racist? The war was cool it's a punk thing!

[@markelshout2085]

No you´re not a racist then...but saying ´the war was cool and it´s a punk thing´ is one of the most ignorant things I have read in a while. Huge disrespect for the people who actually experienced WW2, one of the most gruesome periods in our history. I know you don´t mean to be disrespectful, but please be more carefull with your words, not a ´cool´ thing to say.

[@chesspunk489]

War is not punk rock.

[@samuelhain2712]

Johnny's dead and can't defend himself. So Marky's talking shit about him to sell his book

[@bl4ncoSR]

exactly. it's sad

[@bl4ncoSR]

Marky does anything to get his name out in the press

[@andrewramone7498]

+Johnny ramone Omg! Youre alive 😂

[@bl4ncoSR]

+Andrew Ramone hi

[@andrewramone7498]

+Johnny ramone Marky is your best friend

[@69luca_33]

The KKK took Johnny's respect away

[@eugeneromero]

Don't believe everything Mark says. He talked shit about everyone. I heard first hand the shit he said about the other guys. After they retired, I met him and asked him to sign my jacket. CJ had already signed it. And Mark told me I shouldn't have CJ on my jacket because he wasn't a Ramone. At another time, me and a friend of mine were talking to him about what all the other Ramones were up to. He said Joey is just getting fat and can't sing any more. He just doesn't have good things to say about anyone. He just wants to build himself up. Even talked shit about Jerry Only and the MIsfits after he played with them. I'm a big Ramones fan but that shit just sucks. By the way, CJ and Richie are cool as shit.

[@eivindgjengstjohansen9625]

Marky was the only ramone to visit Joey he brought him a CD player and CD's

[@michaelr.4878]

Johnny was the freaking man.

[@leahflower9924]

thank you finally someone gets it

[@stiffrichard2816]

That's not cool, he's not alive to defend himself.

[@druthedrifter8802]

Stiff Richard I totally don’t believe he’s racist but I call out people like Michael Jackson for being a molester it’s not a really good argument Yknow if someone’s dead and they got dirt they still got dirt

[@alleypez8555]

I'm here because I saw a dude in insta with a poster saying Johnny was a racist I front of his grave for black history month

[@21st.CenturyBoy]

We are not gonna figure out this, reading the Comments section xD

[@81millionvotes]

He wanted that answer..just say Mark please,say it..come on say it..find me an entertainer that hasn't said something stupid on the road..i will be here waiting.

[@alchingazoprods1]

Did he say that Johnny collected nazi memorabilia? I don't think he did. The booked nentioned that he collected autographs and while in Germany he thought the coolest autograph to get there was the Furher's.

[@cjsligojones5101]

Easy to talk shit about a dead guy....why doesn't he talk about how Johnny gave him a career?

[@Brandywine6969]

He does in his book talk about that. He talks about it quite a bit, actually. I enjoyed the book. It was well rounded and not the least bit sensationalized, like this snippet of interview in the video here.

[@eivindgjengstjohansen9625]

Marky was the only ramone to visit Joey he brought him a CD player and CD's

[@wastoid138]

The comments of this video: 80% Triggered Conservative "Punks" 15% Marky Ramone Sheep 5% Logical People

[@jeremybrown8654]

Jay Bird both sides are guilty of thinking their feelings matter more than facts. I will say that I have seen it be much more prevalent with the progressive liberals these days.

[@birdy596]

Anarcho Death Ponx I suppose you’re one of the “logical ones” eh?

[@drunkroku4054]

As though punk can only be true if it's liberal. LOL That's a UK "punk" mentality.

[@cardigansarecool]

Jay Bird this is honestly one of the most retarded comments I’ve ever seen, so bravo

[@JimmyFranceable]

Ponx most triggered.

[@neilhudspeth6472]

I would have to cite the first amendment on this subject. He was entitled to think or believe what he wanted to. I still at 42 cannot fathom how some Americans are fine with free speech and uphold it staunchly. As long as it's their free speech.

[@Didymus-vz6uy]

@MemphoWrasslin1 how are we supposed to make up for racism? Letting blacks openly discriminate against whites? Is there a meter he have to fill? The answer is to stop. Stop all of it. Two wrongs don't make a right.

[@Chaz31358]

The first amendment just means that the government can't criminalize speech. It doesn't mean you're immune from criticism.

[@donjuanmckenzie4897]

​@Charles Copeland free speech is meaningless if you can't speak freely

[@jimmyteerex2177]

Crapping on a dead man's grave when he isn't there to defend himself:)

[@leahflower9924]

haters gonna hate

[@eivindgjengstjohansen9625]

Marky was the only ramone to visit Joey he brought him a CD player and CD's

[@toby-y3c]

There is an interview with Johnny Ramone where he talks about being a fan of Little Richard. The Nazi memorabilia thing sounds a bit weird but the same can be said of Lemmy who definitely was not a racist. I imagine Johnny was probably quite a mean person with good qualities, and the other band members recognised that. Ultimately you have to separate the art from the artist, and none of the Ramones' music condoned racism.

[@hdgboy]

Another person who thinks for himself is censored. That happens frequently in our world today. When it happens it’s actually a compliment because it confirms my suspicions about many folks who think they’re in the know. By you not liking my input lets me know I’m doing something right. Unfortunately there aren’t enough of us to make a difference.

[@leahflower9924]

honestly johnny was stubborn i'll give the haters that otherwise he's my favorite ramone after Dee Dee..if anything he played up his conservative beliefs to say F you i'm not conforming by being the liberal you want me to be. ramones were idolized by so many people and with that always comes stupid PC haters.

[@Chaz31358]

How was he censored?

[@waltercollins2201]

johnny ruled

[@bl4ncoSR]

Walter Collins thank you

[@mrhomes204]

Except for the whole lack of talent and horrible beliefs thing.

[@broken1394]

Dee dee all day

[@HankCherry]

I knew JC very well...I attended his wedding...he was a good American...and a fair but hard band leader....yes JC was the leader and without him the band wouldn't have been successful...his views on worldly matters were his and his alone...live and let live...douche...

[@RichardDickGrayson]

Thats awesome Mr. Lynch, Mr. Cummings was my most favorite Ramone. My other favorites are C.J., Dee Dee, and Richie.

[@rodrigodefreitas3991]

Bad way to sell a book

[@unsurreal83]

he clearly doesn't want to hand over his bandmate in this interview, but why this resistance from the fans and this benefit of the doubt with someone who has always been attached to conservative values?

[@PulpVision]

So basically, Marky didnt have a problem with Johnny being a racist as long as it wasn't aimed at him? Oh, f%&k this guy! Joey RIP was the only member of the band that was a stand up guy.

[@neilarch6277]

Johnny Ramone is a legend. Marky is a drummer in a ridiculous wig cashing in on a bands legacy.

[@cvp1969]

He’s trying to be nice here.. but if you came up in that time- you had family older than you that were racists. You had friends who were racists. YOU might even have been racist.

[@jamesdelaney3797]

Was he a racist? No more than spike lee

[@rumbashane]

Racism and Naziism as "Conservative politics"?? wth are you talking about??

[@bheinatz1]

What kind of watch is he wearing? Is that a Hamilton?

[@captainchaos4108]

I'm surprised that punks aren't campaigning to have his statue taken down.

[@Brandywine6969]

I think even the idea of doing that would be ridiculous and I'm a liberal to the core. We don't all agree on every single thing. Even people within political parties don't agree.

[@aztecnra9473]

I did not know Johnny was a liberal democrat.

[@JohnnyangelNIU]

Aztec NRA Johnny was a Reagan republican Irish Catholic, Joey was far left and Jewish

[@ladymaj]

+JohnnyangelNIU Johnny and joey hate the communist ideology extremists. Read the Johnny ramones; the communist in the 70's hatred the ramones

[@wildnites558]

Hence the album, Rocket To Russia.

[@gabbyc3444]

He was a hardcore Republican...

[@Brandywine6969]

He would flip if he heard anybody say that, I am sure. He was a Republican, and did not hide it or deny it. Joey was a liberal Democrat. Not Johnny.

[@Suzismymom]

I liked Marky better when he played with Richard Hell. I didn't even watch this yet but just because Johnny was a Conservative doesn't mean he was a racist. That's beyond fucked up if that's what Marky says. Geez, and to think he has the same birthday as me and Johnny Thunders.

[@julioparedes3135]

They're obviously trying to stir the pot. Johnny was a badass regardless

[@leahflower9924]

i know right listen to their early stuff would we even have 53rd and 3rd today your love etc. if the Ramones played nice and worried about being PC?

[@Miguelc271086]

Don’t speak ill of the dead There is no proof

[@supergolfdude]

Let’s cancel Johnny Ramone! Oh, wait...

[@ignasty3591]

He certainly has reservations on pinning the tail on the donkey.

[@planreview]

He didn’t learn the two greatest things in life: 1. Never rat out your friends 2. Always keep your mouth shut

[@PapagenoMF]

I thought it was to love others.

[@_PuppetMaster86]

Actually the two greatest things in life is: 1. Love 2. Good health

[@vidsforsquids]

The host is trying to dig up and exaggerate for whatever reason. He’s lucky Johnny wasn’t there cuz he’d get a right hook to the chin

[@chrismatthews133]

Marky be a more likable guy if he wasnt a snitch.......expecially when no ones around to defend theirselves....my 2 cents...

[@JCStorm76]

Anything for a buck

[@eivindgjengstjohansen9625]

Marky was the only ramone to visit Joey he brought him a CD player and CD's

[@coreyusmc101]

I lost a little respect for Mark here why would you say Johnny is a racist after he's dead wtf man he can't defend himself

[@eivindgjengstjohansen9625]

Marky was the only ramone to visit Joey he brought him a CD player and CD's

[@RavnerRavner]

Marc tried to avoid a direct question in the beginning of this.

[@karlahc9437]

Joey was right on what he said !! "People drift towards liberalism at a young age, and I always hope they change when they see how the world really is."

[@dannyflorio1126]

Oh, who cares? Everyone’s flawed in some way. There are worst things in this world than “racial slurs.” RIP, Johnny Ramone.

[@opaljk4835]

Lol, word up.

[@kalebvera1841]

collecting nazi memorabilia doesnt make you a racist, they are part of history and i can understan someone wanting to own some of it but him espousing racist slurs would make him a racist, but hey nobody is perfect right?

[@richardrybinski2320]

Marc Bell is a fantastic drummer.....he can do it all

[@guyincognito143]

Trying to cancel a dead guy, classy.

[@eivindgjengstjohansen9625]

Marky was the only ramone to visit Joey he brought him a CD player and CD's

[@rossrossa7596]

Dust:Hard Attacc

[@jimbo1959]

OH! So if it's in the BOOK...it must be true!!!

[@jaybone23]

Johnny's racism, at least in the early days, was well known in the scene. Ask Jayne County and Monte Melnick.

[@viaxartes2899]

he supported BUSH , to me its racist.period.

[@captainrhodes83]

Well if ppl bash HR from bad brains for being a antigay its only right to bring this up

[@Joseph-eu6jp]

From what I understand from a documentary about the Ramones they were Jewish, Marky was gentile, this interviewer is very uneducated about the Ramones.

[@shoobydubois1]

Another reason to admire Johnny.

[@dustinprewitt]

Sure is easy to talk trash on all the members of your former band when they're too dead to defend themselves....

[@DavyVandenkieboom-hv3tr]

Nazi or not, johnny rules

[@deadlyoneable]

Here we go looking through our 2021 woke clown goggles again.

[@leahflower9924]

not me i like ramones and ramonescore because it is the only punk these days not infected with PC culture

[@anthonymikolich8206]

Collecting Nazi memorabelia doesn't make you a racict, it makes you a historian. Stop trying to be offended. its offensive.

[@cabbageman3676]

The term is a nonsense word. Ignore and carry on.

[@rickmerchant1835]

Just because somebody is Right wing doesn't make you racist at all! I think Marky is just making things up to sell his book Johnny ramone was a very nice guy John Lydon even said he was a sweet heart Being right wing doesn't make you racist in fact being far right doesn't always make you racist everybody has there own individual beliefs.

[@rosario508]

As a Red Sox fan I think the fact that he was a yankees fan is much more egregious.

[@metaldams78]

I'm a Red Sox fan too, but I forgive Johnny. :-). His death was timed mercifully as far as that goes, missed the '04 choke job by about a month.

[@gilwood7530]

Well said !

[@leahflower9924]

my dad is from Queens and is outraged johnny wasn't a Mets fan

[@leitros]

The big (or is that "bigly") question is whether, were Johnny alive, he would have voted for the Orange Buffoon?

[@VMan29397]

MemphoWrasslin1 it wasn't that they wanted to give a finger to the establishment that they were sick of that they voted for that dumb ass despite knowing how deplorable he was in the hope that he would at least help them economically. now they know they were conned

[@wildnites558]

And he is, he's gotten more accomplished in less than a year and a half in office than Obozo in office for 8 years.

[@honeyfrost3355]

Eh who knows, Trump's politics would probably be a bit much for Johnny, he was a hardcore old school Republican.

[@Afarz1]

@MemphoWrasslin1 oh please. i voted for obama both times and voted for trump both times. i think it's an incredibly small amount of people mad about a black president. he just wasnt a good president no matter how much the media tries to pretend otherwise

[@Afarz1]

@MemphoWrasslin1 for sure there is definitely racism and will always be some, but like you said i think it's exaggerated a lot. people care about the economy and policies. im persian. and i know the iranian community mostly voted obama. we didnt like his iran deal at all or handling of iran. so many of us switched. and then we certainly didnt like the sympathizing over the soleimani killing by dems

[@mrcanarsie]

Johnny wasn't a racist> This guy is JO

[@leskobrandon8454]

If he was racist, I knew there was a reason I loved him. ✊🏼

[@_PuppetMaster86]

“I would like to get rid of the homophobes, sexists, and *racists* in our audience. I know they're out there and it really bothers me.” - Kurt Cobain (of Nirvana), 1991

[@leskobrandon8454]

@@_PuppetMaster86 yall are weak. We ain't going nowhere 😂