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Was Luffy’s Gear 5 / Joy Boy ACTUALLY Planned From The Start of One Piece?

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@big3fanboy19
@big3fanboy19 Күн бұрын
My idea is when fishman island was serialized talking about joyboy that's when Oda planned gear 5.
@tylamcgilverson3923
@tylamcgilverson3923 8 сағат бұрын
You need to watch Mom Peice by Drawk. She was able to accurately guess that Luffy is a sun god back on little garden. Because she's a teacher for like philosophy or something she uses context clues and God damn it was hype last year.
@big3fanboy19
@big3fanboy19 8 сағат бұрын
@tylamcgilverson3923 that's interseting but idk how you can get to that unless you got spoiled. Not saying the person is wrong but gear 5 was a big thing that can change people opinons. Will check out the video and see.
@Zyx3ds18
@Zyx3ds18 2 күн бұрын
I still cant believe I found Kaleb I.A'.s one piece alt through pure algo alone
@Ezzzyleerock09
@Ezzzyleerock09 8 сағат бұрын
Wait this is Kaleb I.A. I didn’t realize where I had heard the voice before till you said something
@russellwestbrook462
@russellwestbrook462 Күн бұрын
I think oda had the idea that luffys ultimate power would be some looney tunes type stuff but didn’t really have it figured out yet how luffy would obtain the power
@arpitagrawal7534
@arpitagrawal7534 Күн бұрын
I can agree execution of the reveal has been really clunky and I agree with some of your points like the chapter gap between Fishman Island and Who's Who chapter(although Joyboy was also mentioned in Laughtale chapter, still your point stands) and things like treating gags as the foreshadowing of Luffy being Nika and the whole Gorosei thing. But here is my take on the whole thing. As you said yourself Luffy has always been portrayed as Sun throughout the series. It is more prevalent in arcs like Skypiea and Fishman Island and little less in Thriller Bark. Ofcourse I am not saying this proves that Luffy always had a Sun god fruit but him being a Sun or a God. Also Gear 5 reveal is a two fold thing, awakening of his fruit and his fruit being a mythical zoan. I think you are with me on the point that awakening of his fruit has been well foreshadowed from first learning of the term in Impel Down and Luffy's two major fights have been with awakened DF users in Doffy and Katakuri. Now with the part of his fruit being a mythical zoan. I agree with you that characters saying things like rubber shouldn't work like that doesn't count and Kaido said that thing like just few chapters ago. But I do believe that Luffy's fruit being a zoan type was always a possibility. Although I don't count them as solid evidence but here are some of the points that were good enough for me to count as foreshadowing: 1. Interaction between Luffy and Momo when they first met when Luffy said that he is not a Zoan type. 2. Chopper being scared that Blackbeard might be after his Hito Hito Nomi and the whole mystery of why did BB went to ""Drum"" Island (possibly to search for Hito Hito Nomi model Nika) Both of these interactions were really close to Oda name dropping Joyboy. In conclusion Luffy being a Sun God and his fruit being a Zoan have been well foreshadowed to me. His fruit being a Nika model is more of a theory on BB and Drum Island. WG handling of Luffy's fruit is definitely poor. I am completely with you on that.
@bexly96
@bexly96 Күн бұрын
Fully agree, me and friends who watched it together years ago always said we didn't think Luffy's fruit was really a Paramecia or at the very least not a normal one
@Thefandomjumper307
@Thefandomjumper307 10 сағат бұрын
​@bexly96 tbh, i kinda had a similar feeling of that, too. There was a moment when I was watching the anime of One Piece where I was thinking about Logia type abilities- and now, this was honestly a silly little thought, but I almost thought that Luffy's fruit was a Logia due to attacks going through them and me putting that logic into how Luffy could take blunt attacks, but thinking back on it now, I was definitely not thinking of the whole 'rubber' aspect of things💀
@Thefandomjumper307
@Thefandomjumper307 10 сағат бұрын
Honestly, I will admit, the WG handling Luffy's fruit was definitely poor, lmfao-- and i know this isn't really any evidence or anything, but after rewatching episode 151 in a reaction video, I'll never see that part with the Elders noticing Luffy's bounty the same way ever again, not after recent events with Gear 5 and how poorly they handled in trying to 'get rid of it'-
@edusmelo
@edusmelo 4 сағат бұрын
I think you exposition lacks of the moments when Oda actively compared Luffy to a god, that happened in Skypea when was Luffy that responded when all people was praying for god. In the scene right after Connys inquired in her paying if exists a god is shown Luffy and his words was literally: "Sun. Appears!" At the time he was trying to disperse Enel's ship fog, but that was there.
@michaelmerchant9870
@michaelmerchant9870 Күн бұрын
Another problem you alluded to is people try to say "rubber can't do that" as an explanation for "foreshadowing" gear 5th (lol wow) is that explanation can only apply to the awakened form. Since Luffy wasn't awakened in gears 1?-4, the cartoon powers don't apply in those form. He only gets the rubber body as explained by the Goresei. There is literally zero explanation or reason given in story that suggest awakening work graduately.
@anime_world6684
@anime_world6684 Күн бұрын
You got to realize awakening in one piece doesn’t actually mean the word “awakening”. Like law awakens his fruit and all he gets is stinking his room when he could already size up his room. Or Kidd’s awakening only got turning things into magnets when he could already attract objects. Katakuri awakens his fruit to turn things into mochi when he could already hide anything in his mochi Think of awakening as a sealed bottle of beer. The drink in the beer is the entire power. But you can’t open it so you have to deal with licking the wet sealed bottle which sort of has some beer on it but once you get a brain cell and realize if that’s how you open a beer and open it then you get the “full drink” or in short “I understand it now”
@DrUpauli
@DrUpauli 15 сағат бұрын
I love gear 5 conceptually, I think in that sense it's the best shonen power up. That being said, everything you said here is complete facts and it's annoying when people get mad at me for making the same points. Also did you have another channel or something? You sound familiar
@bogiewoods3037
@bogiewoods3037 17 сағат бұрын
Gonna be fr, Oda didn't even have that planned 30 chapters in advance
@ricorichardson5945
@ricorichardson5945 23 сағат бұрын
I personally think it was planned ever since "gears" were added. The sun pirates were at the very least first mentioned pre time skip in sabaody. Joyboy was girst mentioned in fishman. As for the bigger issues, i dont think its as simple as just the panel in skypeia. Dont forget, everyone in the sky was praying that someone save them from enel and at that moment, luffy burst out of that massive electric sphere. Now, more on it, the Thousand sunny travels west. Like the sun as well, it is the traveling sun. The dawn pirates were also a mink crew. So Dawn, the sun, the prayers. Skypeia had a flashback where it was mentioned that there were several gods, those gods (while not listing nika) were still a major introduction to the idea of gods. Then during marineford meet 2 mythical zoans, one of which was a human human fruit. Now, as for the sun pirates again, they were led by fisher tiger, fisher tiger freed the slaves in mary goise and the sun god is (later) called the god of freedom. As for the MOST specific, recall this: Luffy gained fire powers Luffy gained electric powers Randomly during the timeskip. Luffy even knew he made fire on the ground when running. This had nothing to do with his devil fruit. Then Gear 4? Him flying doesnt make sense, Him transforming and gaining smoke clouds doesnt make sense, and it def seemed more like a zoan than a paramecia in that end.
@edusmelo
@edusmelo 4 сағат бұрын
I think that people forgot that was Luffy that responded when all skipeans was asking for a god. Besides wasn't Maxim clouds covering the sun? And wasn't Luffy that brought the sun back?
@ricorichardson5945
@ricorichardson5945 Сағат бұрын
@edusmelo see?
@mladen5140
@mladen5140 20 сағат бұрын
I wholly agree, and this is a big reason why I really don't like Gear 5 the way it is in the story, even if I like the visual design
@classydays43
@classydays43 18 сағат бұрын
I mean the show is called One Piece based on Luffy's end goal, and if Joyboy's story is connected to that somehow from the very beginning then it makes sense it may have been planned from the start. I mean, Arlong Park was based on Sabaody and Sabaody is the premium example of class disparities between the Celestial Dragons and everyone else, and if the CD were thought of back then, Imu might have been, as well. If Imu was thought up, then his story along with Joyboy's would be, too. From the very first scene of Roger saying "I left everything this world has to offer right there!" The old history was likely at least conceptualised along with Joyboy. Maybe Oda had time to flesh the story out over time, but it probably began with a simple "how fun would cartoon logic be in the real world?"
@Celestials13
@Celestials13 Күн бұрын
U need more subs, your channel is so underrated
@KalebXKaleb
@KalebXKaleb Күн бұрын
Thank you!
@danieljliverslxxxix1164
@danieljliverslxxxix1164 20 сағат бұрын
No for the simple fact that the idea of zoan's having will's of their own disillusion's everything that One Piece was built around prior to 1044. *It implies that everything that led to Luffy eating the gumgum was in fact a manifestation of the zoan's will, including Who's Who losing it to the Red Hairs *Luffy's abilities were never insinuated to be zoan-esque and begs the question why other zoan users don't achieve similar abilities *It undermines everything Luffy worked for and endured by virtue that zoans grant the user enhanced physical capabilities *After consuming the fruit the user knows what it is including its name and Luffy never refers to it as hitahita *Sun symbology was only ever that while this makes everything far more literal and meaningless in retrospect *It makes the world government come off as cartoonishly incompetent Everything about this not only screams of retcon, it fundamentally destroys literal decades of consistent story logic and world building.
@drazil-2461
@drazil-2461 Күн бұрын
Subbed immediately when I heard your voice.
@90sPotato
@90sPotato Күн бұрын
First off luffy's mythical zoan isn't even known. We are unsure of what the beast is, it's a human model and it makes sense that Gear 3rd, Gear 2nd and gear 4th are the transformation. It definitely woulsnt function for others like Kaido's and Marco's which are actually beast who's abilities and transformations actually deviate from the human appearance. By that logic luffy was never going to change physically or have a hybrid form where he is half monster like the others. Instead, the change would only apply physical properties since he is already human. Chopper would have similar traits if he was human and not a reindeer that ate a human fruit
@Dave-su5cd
@Dave-su5cd Күн бұрын
gear 2nd and gear 3rd arent even transformations. its just luffy creatively utilizing the properties of rubber to enhance his physical properties and attacks. gear 2nd: inflating blood vessels to increase blood flow therefore giving him more explosive physical abilities (anime logic idk) gear 3rd: inflating his bones so that his fist gets bigger thus doing more damage both of which arent transformations
@90sPotato
@90sPotato Күн бұрын
@Dave-su5cd you misunderstand the entire discourse. Nika and Chopper's fruit are model human. Now, what happens if a human being eats a model of human fruit? It simply means they would only get ohyscial properties and abilities and not necessarily have a "transformation" in the sense that other zoans have. So if we actually want to say that luffy has a transformation, then it would be his gears, do you understand? His gears will substitute for hybrid forms of kaido and Lucci, and gear 5th will be full transformation like Kaido's dragon form. Remember, luffy is a zoan, and Gear5th is the full form which counts as full transformation
@frenchynoob
@frenchynoob Күн бұрын
That sounds like a bunch of headcanon to me ​@@90sPotato
@90sPotato
@90sPotato 23 сағат бұрын
@frenchynoob which part of it hasn't happened in the show? Everything I have mentioned here happened in the show, so how exactly is it head canon, or are you just throwing word salad around? It's a discourse. If you don't have anything reasonable to add or disprove, then you can look away
@danieljliverslxxxix1164
@danieljliverslxxxix1164 20 сағат бұрын
@@90sPotato This is manga. Not a show. You read it. You do not watch it. By your own logic Luffy's gears must be classified as awakenings in their own right, yet we know that's not how awakenings work. Paramecia awakenings function by externalizing the user's ability. Zoan awakenings only offer an increase of stamina. Why does Luffy's actual awakening give him both? Because it is supposedly mythical? But that doesn't make any sense because it isn't based on anything other than an abstract idea. Songoku, Kaio, Orochi, and Yamato: their devil fruits are mythical and are based on concrete figures. "Nika", Joy, is not a figure but an idea. The only application that could work is JoyBoy, but that raises further questions (are dfs based on the wills of pre-existing people from the VC? That's what Vegapunk implied, but that doesn't explain how dfs came to be in and of themselves.) And lastly, awakenings are not transformations. Not even Chopper's rumble balls and monster point is a transformation. Again, awakenings are the devil fruits power being externalized. It is clear as day that this was not planned.
@J-Wolf17FTW
@J-Wolf17FTW 10 сағат бұрын
I think some of Luffy's abilities in the post-timeskip are themselves a bit of foreshadowing. Hody Jones mentions after being hit with Red Hawk that Luffy even using a fire based attack as a rubber ability didn't make sense. Dolfamingo and Katakuri said the same exact things when faced against Gear 4th and Luffy's punches changing direction. Even Gear 4th itself is a huge hint given that it's a transformation that is uncharacteristic of Paramecia fruits. Pedro's Death also references the coming dawn of the world, a huge story theme in Wano and the Final Saga in general due to how much it relates to Joyboy. One other overlooked line is Hyougoro mentioning that Gear 4th looks like the God of Fire(which in a sense is kind of like the sun).
@OriginBullet
@OriginBullet 17 сағат бұрын
I think what's going on here is that, although the ending of One Piece is figured out. The way we get there is not and Oda has given himself enough wiggle room by placing enough elements in the story that he can then go and retroactively tie back too. He's very good at it, but not always. There's a good analysts video by Mr Morj about how Oda is good at making it seem like his retroactive changes seem always planned and natural. Early One Piece knew HOW it was gonna get to the end, but then the manga got so popular that Oda had to extend the story (many times). Which means he no longer knew exactly how he was gonna get to the end he originally envisioned. I'm guessing after the first time he had to extend the story, he realized he needed to start placing narrative threads open ended enough for him to go back and tie back too, to give him enough flexibility to make changes to the story's direction to get to the ending of One Piece he originally envisioned. Which means Oda no longer knows exactly how he will get to end of One Piece and has to wrangle many narrative threads and weave them as seamlessly as possible to get to his ending. I think someone LIKE Joy Boy was always planned from the begging, but not the details, and Oda always planned for him to be first brought up in some future arc that about the fishmen around the halfway point of the story. Now with regards with Gear 5. I really feel that Oda built up Kaido to be so strong that he genuinely could not figure out a way for Luffy to convincingly beat him. And Oda possibly already knew he was going to have trouble writing the ending of Wano during the Totto Land arc (or even way before since punk hazzard), because if you notice during the Katakuri fight Oda makes Katakuri comment on how weird Luffy's rubber fruit is and how that's not how rubber normally behaves. I think that was Oda giving himself a narrative out because he already knew he was gonna have to change SOMETHING about luffy's awakening in wano, but not sure exactly what. And even before then, I think he knew he needed to invent another power up for devil fruits to cap the end of the four emperor's saga, so luffy could beat kaido, since before punk hazzard. That's is to say, I don't think devil fruit awakenings were planned since the start of the story, they were invented during the post timeskip. (Just to comment on Haki real quick, I think something like haki was something Oda always wanted in the story, but didn't know how to go about it and the first two prototypes for it where mantra in Jaya and the six powers during water 7 with the system being fleshed out during the timeskip). Which also means that Oda already had some idea of what his awakening was going to be, only to probably change his mind during the end of Tottoland. Which is why all the relevant info about NIka happens only in wano, because Oda lacked so much confidence in his original awakening concept that he made a hard pivot to the right (last minute) and completely changed luffy's devil fruit type so he could give him a different awakening and write a more convincing end to the Kaido vs Luffy fight. Which leads me to believe that the Nika pose foreshadowing was actually foreshadowing for Joyboy that got retroactively changed to NIka foreshadowing once he changed the nature of his devil fruit. Which also leads me to believe that the events of void century and not set in stone and HAVE changed, even though the way the One Piece ends is set.......or you know, Oda could be lying about that and actually doesn't have anything set in stone and is the reason why the reveal of the One Piece will be the very last thing we are shown at the end of the story, Like the very last manga panel. And just has a vague notion of the manner in which he wants to end the story, but not the HOW. TL;DR After timeskip, when Oda was planning four emperors saga, Oda introduced the concept of awakenings to give luiffy a power-up to defeat Kaido. During Totto Land he realized his original awakening for Luffy wasn't gonna result in a believable power-up that could be Kaido, after building him up so much. Oda makes last minute DRASTIC changes to Luffy's devil fruit, during Wano, and gives him a different power up that can convincingly beat him and future stronger opponents. Which is why the concept behind Gear 5 feels like it came out of nowhere and last minute and reveals that many of the key events of the void century were not planned from the start.
@bangn521
@bangn521 12 сағат бұрын
You forgot about the mention in Ch. 287, Sun God was mentioned for the first time in Skypiea. This may not seem like much on its own, but considering the only time Joyboy/Sun God was mentioned was in isolated countries (skypiea, fishman, wano), those areas preserved history in their culture, which the WG obviously erased from the general public (humans). So the Sun imagery between all of these factions from those isolated areas are all connected pre-timeskip. It makes sense why there wasn't direct info on Nika since the existence of a being was erased, much like the Ancient Kingdom. Also the increasing emphasis of awakenings up until Wano, (Doffy - Dressrosa, Katakuri - WCI), Luffy was bound to get an awakening, we just didnt know when. Also, this is my own speculation, since Wano is heavily based of Japan, Luffy being revealed as the Sun God Nika and Japan's flag meaning "Land of the Rising Sun" is probably the reason why a bulk of it was revealed in Wano (they made the poneglyphs too), but existing threads were there before Wano.
@KalebXKaleb
@KalebXKaleb 11 сағат бұрын
The Sun God mentioned in Skypeia is the Giant Snake
@edusmelo
@edusmelo 4 сағат бұрын
​​@@KalebXKalebAnd what about Luffy being the answer for skypeans prays when they was asking for a god?
@vesstig
@vesstig Күн бұрын
Great vid
@ratedr7845
@ratedr7845 12 сағат бұрын
to me, i think the power was probably planned from the start (seriously, it really does feels tailor-made for luffy) but it being a gear and being connected to nika probably came later
@montesideacc
@montesideacc 10 сағат бұрын
yeah idk why people cope and have to pretend there's foreshadowing behind this moment. It's weekly manga, authors retroactively build off of what they established without planning everything out all the time, and oda admits to doing so for some other scenarios in interviews. G5/Nika reveal is probably his worst executed moment at doing so, but I do think that he started toying with the idea that 'maybe luffy is a zoan' with gear 4. Some of the changes it makes to his form make absolutely zero sense even with the cartoon rubber logic (like the cloud scarf and the design/mark on his back)- still at that point I doubt he had nika planned. Even with the retcon though, I don't think the gorosei ever say they didn't know that luffy had the fruit- I think there's logical explanations as to why ramping up their attempted capture on luffy with no reason given via the marines would start to make people suspicious, but also I think everyone can admit them not even sending cp0 after the straw hats would be insane if this wasn't a retcon lol. Imu seems to care more about joyboy/nika more than anything, even more than he cares about the revolutiionary army that's literally laying siege to his city- so the gorosei not prioritizing this via cp0 wouldn't make much sense
@empirekid4460
@empirekid4460 8 минут бұрын
I agree with everything except the it not being foreshadowed that it isn't the gum fruit , unlike the gag part u mentioned for growing back teeth both Lucci and doflamingo acknowledge the fact that luffys powers make no sense in context to rubber
@init_yeah
@init_yeah 19 сағат бұрын
Oda said op was supposed to end after albasta and it's supposed to be a story of pirate vs the yonku
@odysseusdadon1234
@odysseusdadon1234 Күн бұрын
I believe oda had planned joyboy since the one piece is his treasure and the straw hat being his too and all the void century setup. in terms of the nika fruit i think it was kind of planned too coz of shanks stealing it having to do something him knowing what it is coz he was a roger pirate,stealing a rubber fruit from the govt seems stupid other wise. i understand what youre saying too coz oda didnt really connect the sun god nika stuff well. I think he had a certain general idea and added stuff along the way
@bexly96
@bexly96 Күн бұрын
I'd been saying for years already that it was obvious Luffy's fruit was not what we thought it was before wano even started and so had plenty of others. We couldn't have thought that if it wasn't already being hinted at throughout the series. Theres many factors adding to Luffy getting some insane form eventually, the fact he's based on wukong/goku and they multiple forms he can take at will. Nami getting the staff and zues = power pole and nimbus which may seem a bit unrelated but it was obvious to me she'd get them both eventually and also that they will eventually likely be used by luffy one day/help him in someway (nika's staff too). The fact that Luffys fruit and choppers fruit act so similarly is another hint. Frankys top in Zou that said HITO with a sun symbol on it... Brook and luffy healing the same way I believe is a hint that we have another reveal coming too like with chopper. Chopper, Luffy, Brook and Robin all have mythical human fruits and models that fit their styles. Model Monster, Model Nika, Model Death/Reaper and Model Devil Call me crazy but if and when it happens I'll probably have people saying I didn't call it years in advance like people now are saying we didn't or couldn't have guessed in advance luffy's powers coming... It WAS foreshadowed
@scottadkins328
@scottadkins328 3 сағат бұрын
I basically agree with what you said. I’ve kinda just thought that gear two could be possible the way it was written. And gear 3 and 4 was him kind of imagining that it could work so it did. As far as his Zina forms being off Mayby what we have seen as gear 5 is his hybrid form and we haven’t seen his beast form yet. Sun wu Kong kinda deal Maybe. At any rate this was a really good video and you got my sub.
@michaeleanthonyjr
@michaeleanthonyjr Сағат бұрын
Joy boy? Possibly. Gear 5? Definitely not because that presupposes a loooooot about the story, including gears, DF awakening, and the origin of the Gomu Gomu no Mi
@readbetweenthebarz8328
@readbetweenthebarz8328 14 сағат бұрын
Zunisha may have been in the end of thriller bark... remember the silhouette 🤔
@Leonkennedy19992
@Leonkennedy19992 22 сағат бұрын
I feel like the reveal couldve had better foreshadowing but i like the power up regardless. The only thing that bothers me is that the world government didnt do anything to stop the little rubber kid causing mischief in the east. Dont say its because no one has awaken the fruit in yeads so they didnt expect some random kid to do it. This is the same W.G that killed thousands of pregnant women and new born babies just to make sure a great pirate doesnt have a kid
@Fluke_D_Writer
@Fluke_D_Writer 13 сағат бұрын
Garp chased him, though." The hero of Marines". They probably thought it would be enough.
@Shellshock39
@Shellshock39 13 сағат бұрын
Oda initially planned for the series to only last a few years but he introduced the Seven Warlords early on and that expanded the series. So no. He didn't plan out Gear 5 from the beginning. You could argue he planted the seeds as early as Fishman Island.
@DmizzMOB
@DmizzMOB 23 сағат бұрын
Nika couldn’t be mentioned because nika is a taboo subject even to the Gorosei so he was hinted through symbolism and the silhouette the only way he could be mentioned was through the mention of the sun god whereas joyboy could be mentioned because it’s the name on the poneglyph. Also the government and marines went after luffy plreanty of times but the could never catch him also they didn’t put any importance on the fruit because they didnt want to make it blatantly look like his fruit was special and draw attention to it.
@MeunJoke
@MeunJoke 23 сағат бұрын
Not to be that guy but the only other mythical fruit that has 2 modes is the Hito Hito no Mi Model: Daibutsu with the base form and then the big transformation, but other than that everything else is right
@cheechcheech9688
@cheechcheech9688 20 сағат бұрын
I first thought that luffys fruit was different from dresrosa what flamingo said “this isn’t behaving like rubber” (something along those lines) I have a feeling this is when Oda started Brian storming or planting seeds
@danieljliverslxxxix1164
@danieljliverslxxxix1164 20 сағат бұрын
Doflammingo said that because Luffy was also using armament.
@cheechcheech9688
@cheechcheech9688 18 сағат бұрын
@ any chance you know which episode it was? I have been trying to find it for ages
@artimationinvirinchi7102
@artimationinvirinchi7102 21 сағат бұрын
i do think Joyboy was hinted in fishman island i dont see an issue wifh Luffy being next joyboy there but i do agree it's retcon and major issues with his fruit and existence of sun god nika and majorly how government didn't knew
@ratedr7845
@ratedr7845 12 сағат бұрын
Bro, it's more than hinted, Joy Boy was straight up mentioned in fishman island it was the first time he was ever name dropped
@devilshooter126m8
@devilshooter126m8 23 сағат бұрын
I dont think so, Luffy Bounty was way too low for having a Devil Fruit the Governmeent wanted
@lucasrogers9055
@lucasrogers9055 17 сағат бұрын
Sgt frog 🐸 brought me to watch this ke-ro ke-ro ke-ro
@anime_world6684
@anime_world6684 Күн бұрын
We got multiple mentions of the sun god in skypiea and wholecake, and symbols have been established as the most important thing for symbolism but we only got the name nika in wano. That’s usually how developing works building works Joyboy tho yeah no mention except vivi portrayal of the straw hats in her quote at the end of alabasta
@darkfrog6782
@darkfrog6782 2 күн бұрын
I hope you just hide previous version instead of deleting. Because KZbin hate that and may stop provide next video like " why should i provide his new video if he may just delete it too?" otherwise it still good video and previous name really may be a real problem of low views.
@KalebXKaleb
@KalebXKaleb Күн бұрын
Thank you for the support on the last one! And yes I think it was the titling and thumbnail but it worked better this time!
@BossUpNikka
@BossUpNikka 20 сағат бұрын
Its hard to write a story if you dont know how it ends
@Ikarusu
@Ikarusu 18 сағат бұрын
it wasnt
@wastingtime2380
@wastingtime2380 20 сағат бұрын
Jajaja of course not!
@banjonetero2376
@banjonetero2376 12 сағат бұрын
As usual cultist are scared to exposed this overrated trash manga 😴
@TheBladeForge
@TheBladeForge 5 сағат бұрын
lazy bait 😴
@big3fanboy19
@big3fanboy19 Күн бұрын
The world government didn't know about the fruit until last minute go back to chapter 1037 every gorosei there were shocked about the fruit having a different name. The problem is who told them the only logical thing is imu and for that we have to wait and see why imu waited so long. One of the reasons might be because he was too afraid of joyboy power so him or other people wanted to change the name to make it where no one will be able to awaken it. You might argue but the rubber how couldn't the WG find out multiple fruits have similar abilities but still unique. Biggest example pica (stone) vs Pizzarro (island)
@chkensammich
@chkensammich Күн бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYOqanVrn6-gn5Yfeature=shared&t=370 I don't remember this imagery being in the manga
@ruhhills8310
@ruhhills8310 2 сағат бұрын
How did you miss that blatant foreshadowing panel from Skypeia? People have been connecting Luffy to the sun long before Wano.
@zoonigga93
@zoonigga93 Күн бұрын
Joyboy was first mentioned in skypea
@KalebXKaleb
@KalebXKaleb Күн бұрын
By name?
@fryingraijin
@fryingraijin Күн бұрын
Nope👎 Joyboy was actively mentioned, by name, in chapter 628/Episode 548. Nico Robin reads his name one the Fishman Island Poneglyph.
@rolando_j_
@rolando_j_ 8 сағат бұрын
Gear five always existed. It's the other 4 gears that weren't planned. Fishman island was long ago planned. Jimbe was discussed at Arlong Park. So most of Fishman Island wasn't an after thought. It was the red poneglyphs that were the afterthough. I wasn't a thing. There is a lot of discussion about why the Red Poneglyph disappeared from Fishman Island. The answer is obvious. It didn't exist when Oda wrote Fishman Island. He created them to extend the story. But Luffy was always going to become the reincarnation of a God. Was he named Nika? Nah. Was there a being specifically named Joyboy who'd previously been linked to Luffy's Devil Fruit at the time of writing East Blue? Nah. But 800 years of the world government has been a thing for a very long time. Oda had an outline of the 5th gear awakening happening all along. It's 4 emperors things that was added to the story later. The 7 warlords were the original gauntlet of villians Luffy was supposed to defeat. Oda created a lot of things that got added to orignal outline of One Piece. But Luffy was always supposed to awaken the Fruit.
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