Was Starkiller A Sith? Star Wars Fast Facts

Starkiller - also known as Galen Marek - was Darth Vader’s apprentice between the events of Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope. But was this powerful Force-wielder a Sith?
The son of two secretly married Jedi, Galen’s family hid on the planet Kashyyyk. While still a young child, his mother was killed by Trandoshan slavers.
Shortly after Vader tracked down the Jedi and his son. Galen - only a child - revealed his immense power in the Force and easily took Vader’s lightsaber from him.
Trained by Darth Vader, the Dark Lord gave him the codename Starkiller.
Due to the Rule of Two, Starkiller was never given the title of Sith; however, he was more than powerful enough to have taken one of the roles.
His powers were so great, he was able to pull a Star Destroyer out of the sky and crash it to the ground using only the Force.
There is quite a bit more to Starkiller’s story; however, he is no longer canon, but we can all dream that one day Starkiller will return to the Star Wars universe.
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[@localandonlinepreciousmeta3575]

The question should be “Was he a Sith Lord?” And no he wasn’t. He was a Sith Assassin.

[@novatheraven]

Like Ventress?

[@BabyPluto82]

@@novatheraven Exactly like her

[@localandonlinepreciousmeta3575]

@@novatheraven exactly. Same with Maul’s past too.

[@BabyPluto82]

@C̷h̵i̴l̵d̷S̷o̴l̵d̸i̴e̶r̵ Oh absolutely 💀

[@chaosomega623]

He did became one when he replaced Vader in the alternate ending

[@xeno5885]

he’s more canon than the sequels

[@Mikemegabyte]

Yes

[@AverageHumanityNO.2Enthusiast]

sequels are fanon bro

[@viltar5514]

@@AverageHumanityNO.2Enthusiast bruh even A Fanon would be better than the sequels.

[@AverageHumanityNO.2Enthusiast]

@@viltar5514 lol

[@GreasiestGuido]

Why do people call the newest of movies the sequels, the originals from the 70's are the sequels, the 2000's ones are the prequels and then the new ones are just disney its not that hard to understand

[@lucy_Bad_Bunny]

It's still hilarious to me that Starkiller was so powerful and OP, that he had to be taken out of canon.

[@mickaeldavis9643]

But they still using is biggest flex in the Canon story like it was nothing. But he is the goat!

[@exocolt15]

I mean he was op literally on purpose and by design

[@tinytim-sj2fb]

They didn't take him out cuz he was op they took him out cuz Disney wanted to remold star wars into their own thing and star killer got caught in the crossfire

[@TemplarGamer56]

He was not op tho since he was defeated and killed in the eu .

[@charizards2009]

I hope that they make him cannon as a final boss in the cal kestis games.

[@MrAss-ft1no]

Do you think he was so powerful because he embraced all aspects of the force? The light and dark side

[@hulksmash3429]

A big part of it was because both of his parents were force sensitive but I'm sure that also played a role

[@RaNgErs_Rep]

@@hulksmash3429 that and Vader training him since childhood

[@LinkiePup]

@@hulksmash3429 it did, but he was not born of the force like vader was. Though he could easily over power Vader in combat, their force potential isn’t even comparable.

[@Lotek117]

Yes of course, just like Darth Revan, no one really talks about just how powerful he was after his fall and second rise to power.

[@aksbs3700]

yes, but most importantly, he has the writing power xd

[@PsychoReaoer]

Bros like the next Darth Revan, being a Light/Dark Side user.

[@revansfollower9928]

nah

[@callumMacdonald-jz3xt]

Yeah actual

[@too_official6194]

Facts that’s what made him so op mans literally mastered all 7 forms b4 17 that’s stuff not even yoda has done most only know like 3 forms of lightsaber combat mans literally combining them with ease in conjunction with his force abilities if he would have reached prime it would have been ggs

[@deo_exus2041]

No don't let him return, Disney would ruin him

[@Souljainbattle]

Yeah they would

[@jaker7567]

with filoni and favro at the lead, maybe not

[@gorefeind5158]

@@jaker7567 then it has to be animated because other than the mandalorian the rest of the live action series have been let downs

[@josephc8752]

Yeah… they would probably make him a male with a uterus or some shit 💆🏻

[@crimsonreaper2725]

True.

[@InternetFunnyMan17483]

Ok so the rule of 2, fair enough. I always wanted to know what that makes Darth Desolus and Darth Phobos

[@rauls.g.2518]

Those 2 were dead long before the game started, they're more like flashbacks and visions

[@PyroPuffs777]

@@rauls.g.2518 weren’t they simulations from the combat droid?

[@eric_moore-6126]

@@PyroPuffs777 Proxy may have had those training modules, but that's not what you fight at the Jedi Temple (at least not in the Wii version of the game).

[@senpaidragongaming283]

Could someone fill me in on what the rule of 2 is? Thanks

[@rauls.g.2518]

@@senpaidragongaming283 the sith basically can only be 2, a master, and an apprentice, one to embody power and one to crave it Darth bane made it after thousands of sith died in the battle of Ruusan after a thousand years of sith wars and infighting

[@forgeinsteel878]

Sad that he never made it to canon, although at least they kept his name in the Force Awaken, Starkiller base, which is like both cameos of The Force Unleashed the title, and Starkiller his name

[@doodoobrown7551]

I almost guarantee you that the only reason why they call it starkiller bases in reference to Luke Skywalker's original intended name. And not at all a reference to the force unleashed

[@Anti-HyperLink]

@@doodoobrown7551 It was not Luke Skywalker's original name. Luke Skywalker is in that early script and hes's an old man. Annikin Starkiller is who you're thinking of. But he does become Luke and Luke becomes Ben.

[@mistersexy8836]

Starkiller was canon like old republic and co till Disney dumped the franchise 🥹😂

[@ericgrimes341]

Never put two and two together. Interesting

[@mgd8867]

@@mistersexy8836 Starkiller was too op to be canon

[@omegadeadpool2947]

*He is Canon to Me!!!!*

[@jakeoshay]

If he's canon he's potentially so much more powerful than any Jedi or Sith who ever lived before, crazy

[@SirDankleberry]

@@jakeoshay And he was only a teenager.

[@Shadowknght949]

Hear hear!

[@omegadeadpool2947]

@@jakeoshay If he is canon then the Legends around them should be too. So feats like Yoda beating up people who flung around Asteroid belts and other Force users holding together planets and making Stars Explode, Sidious summoning Force Storms across the Galaxy should also count technically. Not to mention Abeloth and his Family as well. So basically anything that's not the Sequel Trilogy can be canon and it won't make any difference

[@jakeoshay]

@@omegadeadpool2947 I think my point still stands because unlike the examples you mentioned he was technically still 'in training' while he achieved most of his feats while the others where well endowed already.

[@Noobish_Camper55]

Rey is an absolute trash character and having a semi disconnected Star Killer trilogy would have been great. The main story has been told.

[@aiden4902]

Agreed

[@Poisonedwight]

lol are you kidding? She’s a phenomenal character her development literally rivals anakin to Vader’s

[@sutamochannel]

@@Poisonedwight no 💀

[@ChaoticGoreMagala]

@@Poisonedwight bro pass me what you smoking 🤣

[@TheElevenFirst]

@@Poisonedwight Rey has no development, and is significantly worse than any other character in the series

[@Grzio_]

He was what anikan was destined to become

[@Volsbaseball1]

He was like ventress, an assassin, and the rule of two like you said.

[@wingedblaze5985]

Canon or not, still one of the best written characters I’ve ever seen ❤️‍🔥

[@JokeronGamez]

Used to be canon before Disney

[@wingedblaze5985]

@@JokeronGamez Disney destroys everything it touches

[@JokeronGamez]

@@wingedblaze5985 I wouldn't say everything like Pixar, but Star Wars wise yeah pretty much I didn't mind Mando, BoBF, and Obi-Wan, but the movies are meh, I like most of the shows, and the bat like move with the lightsaber in Obi-Wan, I think that may have been like a combo thing, I've seen a lot of stuff on that but that's my opinion 🙂

[@unapersona8352]

@@wingedblaze5985 He was canon before the dark times, before Disney

[@mylesterrebonne6702]

Technically the Star Destroyer was already crashing. Still an awesome feat!

[@grumpymonk2460]

He just helped it…drastically

[@docvaliant721]

In the game he is told to bring it down. It fights to correct itself. Starkiller crashes a star destroyer.

[@epicbruhmoment2959]

Originally he pulled it down by himself but they changed it

[@matthewlee3868]

I don't remember it crashing I thought it was responding to the space station being destroyed by the trash launcher thing and then he was told to pull it down which it resisted his abilities and if you play the game it resists you a lot and sends tie fighters at yet don't think that counts as crashing but I could be wrong it's been a while

[@docvaliant721]

@@matthewlee3868 yeah your right. It was the hardest part of the game. I had to do it a few times. It would go back to its normal position while your being attacked by tie fighters. It also resisted your attempts to bring it down and why you had to adjust how you moved both sticks. Hated that part.

[@MarissaOliver00]

Sam Witwer did such a good job.

[@darthnexus9570]

I'm sorry I think Galen was on par with Vader, Revan, Luke and Palpatine...

[@Dr.Leymen]

Then you don't know much about him. Starkiller was not actually that powerful, the novels expanded on that. For example, he never pulled the SD out of the sky, it was already falling. He merely redirected it

[@amberharmsen2497]

@@Dr.Leymen who else managed to redirect a SD

[@Dr.Leymen]

@@amberharmsen2497 Many characters in legends would be able to do it. Vitiate, Palpatine, Revan, Sidious, Anakin, Luke, Yoda, etc. Redirecting a SD is an impressive feat, don't get me wrong, but it is not nearly as impressive as pulling it out of the sky, and many characters would be able to do that. There are many, much more powerful, feats, that Luke, Sidious, Revan and Vader have/had, that Starkiller does not even come close to

[@docvaliant721]

@@Dr.Leymen He pulled it down in the game. I don't give a shit about what a book written after the fact has to say. It's just 1 author trying to castrate starkiller.

[@Dr.Leymen]

@@docvaliant721 The thing is, that even back when Legends was the canon, there was a hierarchy, with Games at the bottom. If a book or film stated a fact, and games said otherwise, it was always the book or film fact that was true to the canon.

[@maccvs89]

He is not canon and he'll never be canon which is fortunate considering the current state of "Disney's Starwars"

[@Breacher99]

If he would be canon he would break the trilogy and make SW multiverse canon.

[@jamesx8032]

Star killer would be too OP for cannon

[@bob.bobbington]

Starkiller brakes the Canon SW narrative.

[@GiratinaGX]

With Kathleen in charge, I can understand why.

[@jimmyjones3960]

I mean was it all good in the first place

[@JustTuppi]

So He was Canon? I am new to Star wars because my Boyfriend is a huge Fan and I am looking for some fun facts and watching curently the movies so we can Talk about it. And I Heard about starkiller but by Bf Said He is legendary not Canon.

[@FBI-lu3wf]

He "was" Canon but not anymore

[@Captain-Rex_501ST]

Was cannon but now legends

[@Captain-Rex_501ST]

BTW if u want to talk to him about something you should talk about his favorite characters more than other characters, like look up some fun facts that not many people know

[@rolandocastillo2140]

I wanna Say what a Wonderful thing learning about your Boyfriends Likes .. you are an amazing partner for that.

[@trident347]

Don’t know if your still checking this but if you want some info, it’s legends, the canon story is everything you see in the movies and it was made a lot smaller, and worse, after Disney took over Star Wars. Starkiller is my favorite character but now he’s in legends so unless Disney makes him canon he won’t appear in the movies

[@lainecallahan8977]

I’ll never understand why people want him to be canon. The games were fun but he was so overpowered and the story was ok better than the sequels.

[@nicholastruitt962]

He's to powerful for them to put him back in, if they add him back they may nerf his power.

[@Good_Boy_3000]

Have you seen TROS? If that shit wasn't OP, then I don't know what is. Also, it'd be a bit cool if Galen was to be revealed as Rey's other grandfather.

[@MrStreaty122]

If Disney made an entire series about Galen, I’d be ecstatic. Sam Witwer is an excellent actor and Galen’s story exemplifies the rebellion as a whole

[@c.w.9963]

Has nothing to do with it, but, I also just love the relationship between him and Juno

[@vmwindustries]

I knew they had to pull him from the story. He was too powerful. Great games though!

[@christophercarlin6782]

Nah. Disney thought his story and game wad "too violent" 🙄🙄

[@robertburk5550]

I'm not a star wars nerd, but I honestly ever understood him to be very powerful, never truly either light or dark side. He seemed always stuck in the middle to me, more conflicted than anything. I know I'm very likely wrong.

[@pheniwave4778]

Have you never played the force unleashed ?

[@Shadowknght949]

@@pheniwave4778 he's not wrong, though. Starkiller is very conflicted throughout the game. And there's the two endings that correspond with the light and the dark side. My only experience though is the Wii version, so that's what I'm basing my opinion on.

[@elridgedavis6520]

Starkiller needs the cyberpunk 2077 animation treatment👀

[@thefmehnater]

Starkiller is literally too strong to be canon

[@JRockThumper]

I mean considering EA’s contract has expired and basically any company can make a Star Wars game by proving to Disney it would make them a lot of money… there will probably be some remakes and a third one to complete the trilogy lol.

[@stevenokey7052]

I feel like people forget the point of the "rule of 2" when making characters like this. It's not just about the title. It's because the sith/dsrk side jedi almost wiped themselves out with in fighting. So if vader trains a Starkiller, Knights of Wren, or the Inquisitors. He is just making a group that will eventually overthrow him and papa palpatine.

[@PyroPuffs777]

That’s not how it really works though. A Sith assassin isn’t near the level of a Sith Lord. That’s ultimately what Starkiller, Ventress, etc were. Assassins. Not full fledged lords of the dark like Vader and Palpatine. There’s a much more in depth explanation on wookiepedia if you want to read.

[@AnnoyingNerdLoL]

Not to mention that there's absolutely no way that the Inquisitors could overthrow Vader and the emperor, they were all too weak, and we've seen Vader decimate even the most powerful Inquiditors with ease. He easily beat the Third Sister, he easily beat the Grand Inquisitor in the comics, though he didn't actually fight her he defeated Cal who defeated the Second Sister, meaning that he could easily defeat the Second Sister. And I'm sure there's more. Even if they worked as a group it would take a lot for the inquisitors to take down Vader and the Emperor.

[@stevenokey7052]

Yeah, but all the groups mentioned have or have nentioned a desire to overthrow their masters. Whichbjs why the rule of 2 was made. Too many siths and they all start killing eachother, so if you train someone in the darkside, sith or not, they are probably gonna kill you.

[@thelaw6267]

He was a Sith Apprentice and Assassin.

[@jacobjones221]

I meannnn he was trained by "The Chosen One" soooooo ye

[@juancamilocastellanoslugo4207]

Happy that he ain't in the canon

[@dillonstiffell9877]

He’s too powerful for canon it doesn’t make sense ruins everyone else’s power level

[@jimmyjones3960]

He has a better personality than Rey or Luke so I think he adds more too the story.

[@Fraz_In_Chat]

@@jimmyjones3960 than Luke? Bruh how can u said that

[@JZ-gx8tb]

@@jimmyjones3960 than luke? Haven't watched the OT have u

[@jordiw913]

@@Fraz_In_Chat well Disney luke legends luke is I would say more flushed out but starkiller has just as much potential think about it he started the rebellion he could be very very important like an obi wan maybe even more

[@popcorn-vn1ug]

actually no

[@emzonik8851]

He doesn't need to "return to star wars universe". Legends is its own universe and he's still there.

[@Madusa-UwU]

100% need its own trilogy on the big screen it deserves it

[@alexwolfe]

He's pretty much an OC, "yeah and he beat darth Vader and did really cool stuff with the Force and got like whatever colour lightsabers he wanted and was really cool and beat everyone", if people complain about rey they gotta complain about starkiller

[@F1pidis]

I love new characters and antagonists but what is it with the need of writers to make them stronger than the main ones. They don't need to be All-powerful to produce a compelling story. Starkiller would be an awesome addition I just don't want another Rey...

[@warrengraham5145]

Bruh this guy was here way before Mar-Rey Sue came along

[@Anti-HyperLink]

What are you even on about with Rey?

[@ablazedguy]

Starkiller was Rey before Rey...

[@lightelf]

He did not “pull” a star destroyer from the sky. He merely nudged it and aimed it to the ground. The star destroyers engines were broken and it was falling from the sky anyways. It was so broken that most personnel on the ship ejected from escape pods.

[@Suchmymimus]

It was crashing but he did pull it down and forced it to crash in a different location. It also started breaking because of the his force. Also he made it tumble and start to spin before straightening it into a nose dive. That is equally as impressive.

[@Jacob-vl6ts]

"The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force"

[@trendydwarf3747]

Hope hé turns to the light

[@TurnerWho]

He did

[@Saiko1952]

I remember when i was complaining about rey on r/saltierthancrait and a sequel defender brought up star killer, saying how since he’s op (which ill admit that he is) and hes on the same level as rey, all i had to say was that Starkiller actually has an enjoyable story. Anyways pretty sure fhey got -500 downvotes

[@GT_rising24]

Starkiller not returning would be such a missed oppertunity

[@isaaccook1890]

Even prior to the Disney buy out, I remember Lucas saying he was hesitant to say Starkiller was canon due to his sheer power.

[@yourthatninja6598]

The way I see it, what's "canon" is up to the fanbase (and each individual person can decide what they think is canon too). As far as I care, Starkiller is canon, and the original Thrawn trilogy, and many others... while Disney's half-assed sequels are not.

[@anth0nybalb0a]

I feel like Starkiller would definitely be an Inquisitor in the canon universe

[@BartekWachelski]

Sith apprentice, but he never truly gave into the dark side similar to dooku.

[@G4MFR34K64]

if starkiller ever returned to canon, he would have to be completely rewritten because his power goes even beyond palpatine I’d love to see him come back but not the way most people want

[@fukmachups1876]

cant believe hes still canon

[@yologaming4203]

He didnt pull it down he stopped it from hitting him and pushed it down

[@rowanedwards1380]

You know he was never cannon. I think I would remember him killing all the protagonists in the movies

[@dragonemperoramir5897]

Funny the Anakin in Vader couldn’t help but to give Vaders apprentice Two Lightsabers like he did with Ashoka😭😂💀

[@RememberPluto]

Starkiller is way to powerful for current Canon imo. He easily defeated Vader and Palatine at the same time after being shot into space and basically fatally stabbed.

[@zanzao-1ps318]

I know he's awesome but he's way too powerful to be canon. Having him as canon would totally put to shame 99.9% of any star wars force user. It's common for non-canon characters to be too OP to exist though, look at legends Luke!!

[@galexymitzelplik9560]

We must hide Starkiller from Disney.

[@lunkycultist5519]

Starkiller was a sith on the outside A jedi on the inside, But a sith at the core

[@firebladetenn6633]

Starkiller made more sense to be a part of cannon than the inquisitors.

[@Rikimarusoul9]

I remember him from Soul Calibur 4. The behind the back saber stance is bad ass.

[@bankai7087]

Starkiller will be always my favourite character of star wars

[@begiraffe8711]

POV: you’re too goated to be cannon

[@michaelst9575]

THE FUCKIN ACTOR STLL LOOKS LIKE HIM!! HOW DARE THEY NOT HAVE GIVEN HIM A ROLE IN THE MOVIES YET 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@exclusivgiraffe8359]

This game was ahead of its time

[@saeastwood]

Star killer was redirecting the star destroyer not pulling it down

[@cdbwc]

Tell me you're op with out telling my you're op.

[@thatguy8777]

Disney: Starkiller is no longer real in the Star Wars universe. Everyone who played Force Unleashed: HE IS REAL TO ME!

[@Justus4All]

He's genuinely one of my favorite characters in the entire StarWars-verse

[@fatalmlgpro1154]

I hope they pull him in for the next sequel trilogy as either a turned hero or just a villain because that would be sick

[@PAIN_961]

Darth Vader's chain is sick

[@thomasleblanc8944]

Hes one of my favorites

[@gavinpage5655]

Bro was a whole ass anime character he’s far beyond a Sith

[@Spiderman-zw5su]

Star killers is the force user we all needed and wanted but we ended up getting cal...

[@jamesmangion6587]

We allow to join our council, but we do not grant you the rank of Sith Lord.

[@phish7664]

purple lightsaber would definitely fit his personality

[@sithgaming9129]

I love this Jedi he’s so good

[@thatcher1911]

he’s getting a MASSIVE nerf if made cannon, let the legend die

[@kylekelsey4649]

He didn’t pull it down he redirected it.

[@KIRB881]

If Starkiller was canon. I dont think the empire would ever fall.

[@Badname2011]

His canon was so huge they needed starkiller base.

[@ToothpasteNorangejuice]

He never pulled the star destroyer out of the sky. He just angled it downwards as it was coming down so it can crash

[@PsychH0e-]

I haven't seen a single KZbinr get it right that the Star Destroyer was already falling. It's still an impressive feat to even move it to begin with tho

[@imnotkiddingg]

starkiller fights like a sith with the heart of a jedi

[@arttrain5934]

I believe this character's lore is flexible enough to be written in a way that he is not influenced by the main storyline of the Skywalker saga his origins were loosely written in a way that his powers were over the top like as if he was cloned and had yet to go mad

[@dykesss21]

he didn’t pull down the star destroyer he just redirected it

[@deletedaccount1383]

He crashed down an already falling star destroyer with the force

[@rubenfuentesjr.4367]

He will always be my favorite Star Wars character

[@smoothcheeky8910]

He didn't pull a starship down, he redirected an already crashing starship.

[@thergapprentice1255]

He didn't pull it out of the sky, he redirected it. Besides size matters not. The star destroyer act is just as requiring as when yoda lifted an x wing

[@christifermahan4345]

I'm ready to see a series about Vader and starkiller.

[@IAmTheGlovenor]

They need to make a movie or show with Starkiller while Sam is still young

[@Wilhelm222]

Bro is the main character

[@Doug5614]

He might be the key to bringing Star Wars back. It would have to be under the direction of someone who understands the lore well.

[@simplysean88]

Ironically, he was the three closest thing to the original Jhed'ii order in a long time.

[@yndol6792]

More of a dark Jedi I’d say he’s a dark side Wealder but believes in the light and the justice of Vader

[@GreedyDrunk92]

I always loved starkiller character, because he was giving more gray colors to the black and white story. Rebels were still good and empire still was bad, but it was showing that not every dark force user is truly evil, just egocentric and emotional. Also I liked the idea, that rebellion sign was basically a sith sign

[@haziqizzuddin7063]

My man got 2nd highest midichlorian count in his universe..

[@AmateurAnimations65]

I think a bigger question is, "Was Galen Marek a Jedi?"

[@skymaster33870]

The perfect way to decannonize the sequel trilogy is to have him emerge from a force vision where he was trying to see possible future outcomes.

[@clydedenby1436]

Starkiller was assassinated by a Mary Sue.

[@dalewilson2034]

I really hope that Disney brings him back, star killer was a great character, and he deserves a better game in my opinion.

[@user-mu8ok5xf8d]

I think this shows that maybe the real reason why Jedi don’t have kids let alone with other Jedi is the kids can become talented in the force