Was that a FLOP? Faking being fouled? Let's talk about it: OI LIVE.

[@robbiehinkle2859]

The play from the IHSA state game toward the end of the video to me is just a player falling. We also need to realize falling is ok to prevent injuries. When i was growing up, our middle school coach taught us how to fall to prevent landing wrong or anything that could potentially cause injury. I understand this new flopping rule but like you mentioned early in the video "overtly" is the key for me. 9 times out of 10 you will know when a kid is flopping. If there is any kind of contact, it cannot be a flop unless the player is obviously (overtly) faking being fouled. Just because an athlete "could land" doesnt mean they arent allowed to fall. I think it matters how they fall and if their body language suggests they are "faking". These are good videos for review, thank you for putting these out there. Love reviewing film to get better!

[@OfficialsInstitute]

Thanks for your input.

[@chonsaehoward4553]

That was great stuff…Thank You✌🏽🏀

[@OfficialsInstitute]

You’re welcome.

[@jeffwright7587]

Great to see your vids for the new season Josh! Two questions on the fast break flop/no flop play (#2): 1. You said ball handler wasn't contacted, but it looks like there is lower leg contact by the defender which caused the ball handler to twist a bit in the air, perhaps even causing the miss? But you would have had a good look at that from the C, so you say no contact there? 2. As for whose call that is, even though it's on the C side of the basket line, because it's a play in transition, isn't that 100% the Lead's call since it's at the front of the pack of players? (of course, if the Lead misses it, the C can get it though)

[@OfficialsInstitute]

Transition plays are really addressed by NFHS, as far as coverage so the answer is harder to reference. Generally speaking, you are correct, the lead takes the action leading the play.

[@MaydayAggro]

Play 1 you started with "this is not a block" and then ended with "I think I'm calling a block."

[@OfficialsInstitute]

Some calls in real time are decided by context and not by the written rule. I clearly did a poor job expressing that sentiment. I’ll work harder to be more clear.

[@davislaughlin]

On the play at the 45 minute mark, what happens if the shot goes in as the flop is called on the shooter? Does the basket stand or is it taken off? Thanks.

[@OfficialsInstitute]

Basket counts.

[@TheAnoiing]

Fan of the flopping rule, but implementation is going to be incredibly messy, which is going to cause issues and a ton of issues.

[@OfficialsInstitute]

Agreed!

[@TIMOTHYHUDSON-n5k]

Body mechanics. #15 got hit on his right shoulder and his body spun to the right. He is allowed to brace himself for contact (leaning in). I would say charge. Granted not directly into defense's torso, but enough contact occurred to spin the defender.

[@OfficialsInstitute]

Thanks for sharing

[@derekthibodeau3814]

At 51:30 (play in the paint), couldn't we make the case to call a defensive foul to protect an airborne shooter? Even though the shooter came down clean, the defender definitely created contact and came into the shooter's landing area. If we move that shot out beyond the 3point line and watch the shooter go up, release, and come down, I think most officials would call it a foul.

[@OfficialsInstitute]

Maybe. And the officials did rule this a foul. Great video to spur conversation.

[@RobertHeisler-b1v]

Is it a technical foul per pregame dunk or one technical foul for the team because of dunking?

[@OfficialsInstitute]

It is a team technical foul per each dunk.

[@kenneaderhiser7768]

Does an offensive flop on a shot cause an immediate dead ball that nullifies the shot or is it dead ball after the shot is made or missed.

[@OfficialsInstitute]

If the offense flops on a try for goal and it goes in, the basket counts.

[@robgray_]

@@OfficialsInstitute Josh, this is the same question I had. Is that documented or is a case anywhere?

[@OfficialsInstitute]

@@robgray_ www.nfhs.org/media/7213020/faking-being-fouled-best-practices.pdf

[@jeffporter4658]

The facebook play at halfcourt is a block,,,can't be a player control as it was not torso to torso and the offensive player got his head and shoulder past the defender so the defender has to let him go. Block since there is contact.

[@OfficialsInstitute]

appreciate the input

[@kenneaderhiser7768]

If it is to get “the big ones” and the defender didn’t take the flop to the floor so not a flop, is a head bob on a dribbler in previous clip not a flop. He didn’t take it to stopping his dribble

[@OfficialsInstitute]

We'll see how it all plays out.

[@clydecanales8525]

We have a player on the floor on Play #1 PCF.

[@OfficialsInstitute]

thanks for your comment

[@leebrazeal7901]

With play number 1. I feel like this is the type of play that the new wording is trying to address. He has legal guarding position so it can't be a block but we would call it that because he obviously fell down on purpose. He did embellish his reaction to the contact. Isn't this why we should give the warning now?

[@OfficialsInstitute]

You may be right.

[@theloanref]

If offense flops, we kill it, but you go to the possession arrow, unless it’s on a shot and it goes in, count the basket , then defense gets a non designated spot throw in

[@OfficialsInstitute]

you got it

[@OrionCorsari]

Play 1 is a PCF as legal guarding position was established and maintained. A warning for flopping is optional and can be justified. This ain’t NO block.

[@jcalvarado8251]

So this has nothing to do with flopping but I been through your catalog and I can’t find a hesi (hesitation) dribble video. Do you hand one I missed?

[@dr8ke.k500]

No way can a player extend boths hands to create space. Plus the offender kick out his leg to create contact

[@OfficialsInstitute]

Thanks for watching.

[@jimdepratt7043]

How can you say he was in a legal guarding position, that by rule it was a charge and then question flopping? If it is a flop, it can't be a charge. Flopping is faking, not exaggerating

[@OfficialsInstitute]

The word “exaggerated” is literally within the definition.

[@MaydayAggro]

Play 2 we have Austin Reeves in the game.

[@OfficialsInstitute]

Thanks for watching

[@MaydayAggro]

This video is brought to you by the LA Lakers.

[@OfficialsInstitute]

Ha

[@camrust1952]

Flop play #1... This is bad advice. You do NOT call a block that is not a block. If you think a player has LGP, a block is not an option. If it is a flop, call it as such. That said, I think it was a block...the player started with LGP but extended his shoulder outside of his position, negating LGP, making it a block. Call it right...don't make stuff up.

[@OfficialsInstitute]

thanks for your input