Was the ark round? The new Babylonian text that reshaped Noah’s Ark

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The British Museum

The British Museum

8 жыл бұрын

It all started with a fairly normal event for a museum: a member of the public bringing in an old family heirloom. However the heirloom - a cuneiform tablet from around 1750 BC - proved to be one in a million.
Dr Irving Finkel, Deputy Keeper of Middle East at the British Museum, proceeded to decipher this tablet. In doing so, he discovered the earliest account of the ancient Babylonian ‘Story of the Flood’ - an account closely related to the biblical account of Noah. The sixty-line passage not only provided the materials and measurements required to build the ark, it also suggested that the vessel was round.
This film is a small part of the journey Irving Finkel took from deciphering the text to building a replica ark with a team of archaeological boat builders. For the full story see:
Irving Finkel's 'The Ark Before Noah: Decoding the Story of the Flood' available here: goo.gl/76IhhR
www.amazon.co.uk/The-Ark-Befor...
Channel 4’s 'The Real Noah’s Ark' produced by Blink Films available here: goo.gl/aqd5zu

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@Sunn_on_my_D
@Sunn_on_my_D 5 жыл бұрын
Im sitting here thinking this dude cant get any cooler. Then he put on the 👓
@BuriedFlame
@BuriedFlame 4 жыл бұрын
Started hearing ZZ Top over here.
@krenee8640
@krenee8640 4 жыл бұрын
Jakavosolo 100% with you on that
@ericpraline
@ericpraline 4 жыл бұрын
Totally on board with you
@gilbertotoledo1421
@gilbertotoledo1421 4 жыл бұрын
@@BuriedFlame so it wasn't just me that heard the solo to La Grange in the background.
@AlanCanon2222
@AlanCanon2222 3 жыл бұрын
@@BuriedFlame "Sharp Dressed Curator"
@apcolleen
@apcolleen 6 жыл бұрын
How to create a fanatical historian: Take one curious mind and give him a doozie of a cliff hanger by dying after your first lecture.
@neilsumanda1538
@neilsumanda1538 5 жыл бұрын
he has students... he might thought, "Oh good Lord some curious minds, finally gotta hand over this shit.."
@richlee3777
@richlee3777 4 жыл бұрын
I'll have to try that.
@jammydodger8774
@jammydodger8774 3 жыл бұрын
m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaq4iGOVZrCZa9U
@GeoffreyBronson
@GeoffreyBronson 3 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest treasures in the Britain Museum is Dr Irving Finkel.
@rustythecrown9317
@rustythecrown9317 Жыл бұрын
What country did they steal him from?.
@felixparker6053
@felixparker6053 Жыл бұрын
That’s why they keep him in a glass case when he’s not doing these videos
@jacoboribilik3253
@jacoboribilik3253 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. He's a 3000-year-old relic with the ability to self-preservate.
@helenvanpatterson-patton
@helenvanpatterson-patton 2 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@shosha101390
@shosha101390 Жыл бұрын
Irving Finkel is easily my favorite curator at the British museum. We need more of him!
@althomas2772
@althomas2772 5 жыл бұрын
Irving Finkel should have his own You Tube channel!
@Earnshawfully
@Earnshawfully 4 жыл бұрын
He is so wonderful, isn't he? I expect he is just too busy and content to be the star of the British Museum channel.
@splitpitch
@splitpitch 4 жыл бұрын
with a name like that, he must be fictional. I suspect what we are looking at here is actually a sock puppet.
@tsopmocful1958
@tsopmocful1958 4 жыл бұрын
Just his beard could have its own youtube channel.
@saccharineserf7316
@saccharineserf7316 4 жыл бұрын
this IS his youtube channel, the british museum just borrows it sometimes
@adamnoman4658
@adamnoman4658 4 жыл бұрын
@Matthew Madruga : Just in special stories made up by special people!
@maxwellsimon4538
@maxwellsimon4538 7 жыл бұрын
The question of whether or not the Ark, the characters, or the great flood existed is not relevant to what is found on this tablet. The fact that we have a tablet, well over three millennia old, that gives understandable and executable instructions to build a working boat is phenomenal. If one reads the myths described on some of these ancient tablets, you find their stories are very similar, yet strikingly different from the ones we know today. They show us how many cultures have stories in common, yet different, that they are significant and meaningful to those people, but that they also change over time. Babylon and Israel were both in Mesopotamia, but separated by time, so it's no wonder that a shared thread of story, changed and revised by time, can be seen in both cultures.
@dougohboy5190
@dougohboy5190 6 жыл бұрын
the Ark / Arc , is reference to the moon and Mars.. ark = 153 = 12.369 [ 504 ] that face pyramid on Mars is a clue..;]
@xvdd1
@xvdd1 6 жыл бұрын
The boat itself leaked like a sieve so either they were just bad at designing a practical boat or the design is purely imaginary, it is a shame really.
@louiscypher4186
@louiscypher4186 6 жыл бұрын
xvdd1 The issue came from the bitumen used to seal it. there's a full presentation on it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZDJnKOQiNOtaKs
@dougohboy5190
@dougohboy5190 6 жыл бұрын
Louis Cypher..;..how do you know the ark isnt a space ship...
@louiscypher4186
@louiscypher4186 6 жыл бұрын
Because it seems rather unlikely you'd leave out the whole "rocket booster" part out of the instruction manual.
@nokiot9
@nokiot9 6 жыл бұрын
The people that built that ark museum are gonna be PISSED. Lol
@deavman
@deavman 6 жыл бұрын
Tommy Ohlrich May be they can retrofit...;-)
@apcolleen
@apcolleen 6 жыл бұрын
Oh well, at least they got out of paying the city back and don't have to pay taxes now, ya know, the taxes the city really needed to help provide infrastructure to handle extra visitors to their city.
@ErikB605
@ErikB605 6 жыл бұрын
Which extra visitors :D
@pingpong1138
@pingpong1138 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure they followed the original story and not a retelling
@mattheww797
@mattheww797 5 жыл бұрын
The ark museum is God's work so please do not insult it. These clay tablets were written by pagans so you cannot take what they say as the truth.
@alanmountford5574
@alanmountford5574 4 жыл бұрын
Essentially the purpose of the Ark was to function as a life-raft. What shape are life-rafts?? Yes based on a circle, hexagonal, octagonal etc. A circular craft is the most stable shape in a seaway - gives the most comfortable ride. An unpowered vessel shaped like a conventional boat is extremely uncomfortable in a seaway. A conventional ship that loses engine power in a storm sits broadside onto the waves and rolls horrendously. I have seen video taken aboard a cruise ship that lost engine power in a storm. Tables and chairs in the dining room were flying from one side of the room to the other as the ship rolled back and forth. A real recipe to make one sea-sick!! Imagine putting up with that motion for days on end!! So I think it very likely from a purely functional aspect that the Ark was circular as those ancient texts state.
@SirBillyMays
@SirBillyMays 4 жыл бұрын
@Robert Horker eeh, they have found evidence of a flood. A localised flood that roughly matches the time given in the ark story. But that's all it was. A localised flood. Not world ending, not forewarned by god. Not special. Probably didn't last for forty days. Edit: just to clear it up: it's not exactly set in stone that that specific flood is what set root to the flood myth of Noah, but it is "a proof". It's not proof of what the Bible claims it is (world-covering etc. etc.) But it's something.
@SqeakyToy
@SqeakyToy 3 жыл бұрын
@Robert Horker In the Noble Qur'an Allah (swt) says you will find Noah's Ark on Mt. Judi, and there it is www.google.com/maps/@39.4404711,44.2351336,257m/data=!3m1!1e3
@joeessig3550
@joeessig3550 3 жыл бұрын
@@SirBillyMays lmao----"the world" is not a static concept. The tribe across the street might as well be at the other end of the world. For example, "Old world" and "New World" have profound meaning, they aren't just little historical labels. Discovering a new continent with new peoples would be akin to discovering aliens living on another planet today---in a sense, at least, I understand aliens would technically be a "different species". Your fetish for empiricism is making you miss the entire point. You've OD'd on empiricism to the point of bending your sense of objectivity into cynical nihilism. Full stop. That's the implication of your comment. Like what are you trying to "debunk" lmao? What are you trying to PROVE WRONG with data? Who cares if it was a "localized" flood? Guess what? There were many floods. This is just the earliest surviving iteration of the Flood myth, but there were almost certainly prior versions written down, and before that, strictly oral versions of the story. You know what's hilarious? You probably mock people who believe the bible is word-for-word true-----yet the way you are analyzing religious myths is exactly as literal and un-imaginative. Stop using hyper-rationality to kill your sense of divinity and mystery-----that is a profoundly IRRATIONAL thing to do. And I've tried to empirically prove that, because I know that's the only language you speak. Fool, come back to transcendence.
@anoobiscooking1193
@anoobiscooking1193 3 жыл бұрын
@@SqeakyToy LOTR trilogy too. Tht clearly is NZ.
@ANTSEMUT1
@ANTSEMUT1 3 жыл бұрын
@@SirBillyMays people of antiquity didn't have the means to travel very far quickly, just consider even on horse drawn wagon a trip to say a city like Ur from out in the sticks would take days if not weeks to get to. So to these people a localised flood might as well be the whole world, it's what's observable.
@chipkosboth3233
@chipkosboth3233 4 жыл бұрын
a round ark, populated by a bunch of animals, afloat in an endless flood... planet, creatures, universe. Pretty cool metaphor
@MCMLXXXVICCXII
@MCMLXXXVICCXII 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@larrytinsley4247
@larrytinsley4247 4 жыл бұрын
it is a great metaphor but it is also literal the dimensions on this tablet create an actual boat so maybe there was a pre deluvion civilization that by foreknowledge or sheer coincidental luck was saved by building it not all of humanity but a handful of people with the knowledge of agriculture animal husbandry and and other civilized skills
@FatManJackson
@FatManJackson 4 жыл бұрын
Spaceshiiiiiiiip!
@tia-marieschaeffer5892
@tia-marieschaeffer5892 4 жыл бұрын
its the secret to creation
@margo1628
@margo1628 4 жыл бұрын
@@FatManJackson I just wrote a comment about this! Thank you for your declaration. :}
@iasimov5960
@iasimov5960 6 жыл бұрын
The Babylonian glyphs translated as "circle" sometimes are translated as "Oscar Meyer wiener." This has the potential of reforming our notion of the shape of the ark.
@BuriedFlame
@BuriedFlame 4 жыл бұрын
"And that, my liege, is how we know the world is banana shaped." "This new learning astounds me, Sir Bedevere. Tell me again how sheep's bladders may be used to prevent earthquakes."
@geinikan1kan
@geinikan1kan 5 жыл бұрын
Dr Finkel is an awesome scholar. These videos are gems on KZbin.
@neepgang4091
@neepgang4091 3 жыл бұрын
I have recently discovered him
@justinmorgan2126
@justinmorgan2126 Жыл бұрын
Reminds of a Bill Bryson book on Natural History where, as an aside, in an elevator a mad looking old guy randomly gets on adn then off the elevator, the guy Bill is going to interview says "that's a guy who has been studying a (very specific) beetle for the last 40 years.." "oh" says Bill, "and what happens when he retires?".. "well", says the other guy, "That line of research dies.. no one else is doing that..".. and that is sad, there are so many lines of research going on around the world and so many of them are dying because no one is stepping into their shoes. The same can be said for old skills like thatching, barrel making, even brewing...
@sir9integra9jr
@sir9integra9jr 4 жыл бұрын
ARE WE JUST GONNA SKIP OVER THE PART WHERE THEY LITERALLY BUILT IT OR
@MrTubeYouTheif
@MrTubeYouTheif 4 жыл бұрын
Its easy to skip over things that never happened.
@frankteng
@frankteng 4 жыл бұрын
Cryptoetoe lol
@willyou2199
@willyou2199 4 жыл бұрын
Its a documentary on the BBC.
@1996Pinocchio
@1996Pinocchio 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrTubeYouTheif So how do you explain the ending scene?
@daniel4647
@daniel4647 4 жыл бұрын
@@1996Pinocchio His brain is stuck in the "must deny religion" loop, he doesn't realize the comment was about the boat in the video. Fanaticism can blind people sometimes.
@cleof1503
@cleof1503 3 жыл бұрын
I just discovered Mr Finkel ... i am besotted and am now chasing him all over KZbin. Please keep his videos coming ❤❤
@TunnicliffeEducation
@TunnicliffeEducation 5 жыл бұрын
I think Herodotus describes the boats of the Babylonians as round in his section on "Commerce on the Euphrates", over a thousand years later but maybe it was a similar design
@balrogdahomie
@balrogdahomie 6 жыл бұрын
My theory is that /A/ flood happened, but not a worldwide one; just disastrous enough that, in the relatively disconnected societies of the pre- and early- Bronze Age, would appear cataclysmic.
@GhostbustersFan77
@GhostbustersFan77 6 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way. A localized flood could very well have occurred. Look at the world we live in today with the recent flood disasters. As far as the design of the Ark goes, It doesn't say if Noah or his sons were ship builders. So it would make sense that the ark was constructed using a design that was unorthodox.
@Patrick-wy4op
@Patrick-wy4op 6 жыл бұрын
GhostbustersFan77 how do we know it was specifically Noah it could have been anyone or any amount of people
@GhostbustersFan77
@GhostbustersFan77 6 жыл бұрын
True. The original event, if it happened, could have involved anyone.
@Patrick-wy4op
@Patrick-wy4op 6 жыл бұрын
GhostbustersFan77 exactly and how do we not know this is a story from a book or plans to build multiple ships in that style in a very da Vinci way
@FindecanorNotGmail
@FindecanorNotGmail 6 жыл бұрын
There is a common theory that the flood in the story was a flood that created the Black Sea.
@diedertspijkerboer
@diedertspijkerboer 4 жыл бұрын
When wearing the dark glasses, Irving looks like a modern day alchemist. I expect the value of lead to go up and that of gold to come down, because he will soon go into mass-production.
@seiyuokamihimura5082
@seiyuokamihimura5082 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, lead can indeed be made into gold, but it is a radioactive isotope of gold with little use.
@diedertspijkerboer
@diedertspijkerboer 2 жыл бұрын
@@seiyuokamihimura5082 I know. I figured that out in high-school and found it rather amazing.
@psyekl
@psyekl 6 жыл бұрын
It's well known among ancient historians and Biblical Scholars that the Ark myth is based upon older stories, possibly upon an actual flood that occurred in the Middle East in antiquity. It's absolutely fascinating how stories and myths progress and evolve through history and cultures, and the Bible is a modern example.
@leighfoulkes7297
@leighfoulkes7297 6 жыл бұрын
The oldest story of flood comes from the Sumerian's "Gilgamesh" (became Babylon). There is huge evidence that a massive floods happened around 10,000 BC. It was the end of the ice age and the large glaciers on land melted. Many coastal places around the world were flooded but not the whole world, though it would have seemed to a lot people back then.
@CharlesSilva-xh2pm
@CharlesSilva-xh2pm Ай бұрын
@@leighfoulkes7297 Gilgamesh's version is not the oldest.
@fuyuk1r1ft8
@fuyuk1r1ft8 9 ай бұрын
The fact that they summarily replicated the ark is not only incredible but also a really beautiful scene. Finkel is amazing
@RichardTallent
@RichardTallent 3 жыл бұрын
I'm currently reading Finkel's book about this (The Ark Before Noah: Decoding the Story of the Flood)... it was fun to see some of what's discussed in that book more visually here!
@mrkoolzaad2
@mrkoolzaad2 5 жыл бұрын
The way he handled the clay tablets in his hands. Was afraid he would brake one or two.
@AlanCanon2222
@AlanCanon2222 3 жыл бұрын
Most of those clay tablets were never baked in a kiln, but we have a few cases where fires destroyed the libraries they were in, sitting on wooden shelves, leaned up against each other in such a way that you could read the first line of each tablet without touching any of them. The fires baked the clay tablets and preserved them far better, by happy accident, than they would have been preserved otherwise (again, we do have many unfired clay tablets, but it's also lucky for us that some were accidentally baked).
@bohem5568
@bohem5568 3 жыл бұрын
Most likely they were probably reproductions too handle and study. Originals kept safe. If it was the original piece he would need gloves as oil and moisture from hands can effect clay and stone.
@AlanCanon2222
@AlanCanon2222 3 жыл бұрын
@@bohem5568 I bet that's right, perhaps 3D printed in plastic from a laser scan.
@robertlakay88
@robertlakay88 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I cringed as well.
@yapx
@yapx 4 жыл бұрын
Irving with the glasses looks like a mechanical engineer in a steampunk fantasy
@RealFoxie
@RealFoxie 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, the round boat looks awesome :D
@zagreus101
@zagreus101 5 жыл бұрын
Coracles! Brilliant Shropshire tradition
@JakeKlineMusic
@JakeKlineMusic 5 жыл бұрын
+2consider Yeah, I don't see how effective it'd be for conducting trade. However, sitting and spinning would both be perfectly fine, if you weren't trying to go anywhere. E.g., if your goal was not a physical destination, but that of survival.
@jammydodger8774
@jammydodger8774 3 жыл бұрын
m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaq4iGOVZrCZa9U
@ScoopexUs
@ScoopexUs 6 жыл бұрын
However, this question pales in comparison to the much more important, "What type of propulsion system did the X-Wing use to produce sound in the vacuum of Space?" :)
@thekaxmax
@thekaxmax 6 жыл бұрын
ScoopexUs didn't. Described in some of the novels: the cockpit systems generate sounds in 3d to give situational awareness so the pilots not flying in silence.
@ScoopexUs
@ScoopexUs 6 жыл бұрын
5 guys got the point that the Ark and the X-Wing are fictional objects, and theories about them are best kept as fan lore. :) Archaeologically, it's interesting that they found another tablet with a story about a big boat. Historically, it's interesting to know just how many older non-Christian stories got copy-pasted into the Bible. But that's where the Science stops, and it was strange to hear him talk as if it were real for short while.
@daddyleon
@daddyleon 5 жыл бұрын
X-wings??? What about warp drive?? Without that traveling to other stars takes ages!
@meredocu
@meredocu 5 жыл бұрын
indeed this is much more interesting and incidentally, as scientific as this shit.
@melody3741
@melody3741 5 жыл бұрын
Anything that emits gas could cause sound, the gas has energy, the gas hits your ship, creates vibrations, and you hear it.
@kenlyneham4105
@kenlyneham4105 5 жыл бұрын
I have thought for many years that Noahs Ark was round, like a large coracle, not long and ship-like. My reasoning came from reading about the 'ark' built for Moses and having the Hebrew words that the English version was translated from. Moses' ark we all know was round and basket shaped, without the handle over it. The Hebrew words to describe the baby ark and the big ark and the materials they were built from, were the same. They also corresponded with descriptions of how Egyptian coracles, were built. (In 1994, I built six Ironbridge coracles and organise the first Australian coracle races held over two days on the Nepean River.) So I have done a lot of research on coracles.
@miklosernoehazy8678
@miklosernoehazy8678 4 жыл бұрын
...Ken Lyneham... ...see an old German drinking song that explains the reason why the ark was round... ..."Segem im Trinken" ("Blessing in Drinking")... ...keep in mind that Noah was a vintner...
@ordulf7193
@ordulf7193 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't it have just meant "round bottomed? After all, Genesis does give the dimensions.
@komradewirelesscaller6716
@komradewirelesscaller6716 5 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget that Enki also told the original "Noah" to roof the ark over "like the abzu."
@toastghost9145
@toastghost9145 Жыл бұрын
Cuneiform tablets kind of fascinate me, in that they were written so neatly and so tiny on a little brick that can last for millennia.
@datadog7179
@datadog7179 Жыл бұрын
I could listen to Dr Finckel all day and come back every day for more.
@DarkMoonDroid
@DarkMoonDroid 4 жыл бұрын
This is how science should be done. Read the instructions. Do them. See what happens.
@Earnshawfully
@Earnshawfully 4 жыл бұрын
And have the imagination to extrapolate where you are going. Science and art are not so far apart.
@seanhammer6296
@seanhammer6296 4 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea for a lot of things but that's not science.
@seanhammer6296
@seanhammer6296 4 жыл бұрын
@@Earnshawfully Uh, ya, they kind of are. In fact, they may be close to polar opposites.
@TheSahugani
@TheSahugani 4 жыл бұрын
@@seanhammer6296 I'd say they are slightly related. Science does require imagination. I mean someone has to imagine an idea before it can be tested and put into action so, you might say art and science share a common root. Well, depending on the type of art anyway. I might be reaching a little here though. :p
@seanhammer6296
@seanhammer6296 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheSahugani Ya you might reaching a bit there. Try this, the science of art vs. the art of science. Sure, people use scientific principles to create things but does science really create anything?
@christiandaily5304
@christiandaily5304 5 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to tell me where I can get his shades.
@AngelaElliottbooks
@AngelaElliottbooks 2 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't Irving Finkel have his own TV documentary show? He's a natural and so interesting.
@FindecanorNotGmail
@FindecanorNotGmail 6 жыл бұрын
There are several other depictions of the myth that have survived. In one, the ship was made of bundles of reeds, scavenged from "Noah"'s _house_ . That one prompted Thor Heyerdahl to build his ship "Tigris" from reeds. It sailed all the way from Iraq through the Persian Gulf to Africa.
@jerkfudgewater147
@jerkfudgewater147 5 жыл бұрын
He built the damn thing?!?! Why was this video only 5 god damn minutes long!?!?!!? Where is the rest of this!?!?!
@EdmundDesigns
@EdmundDesigns 5 жыл бұрын
It's a PBS special called Secrets of Noah's Ark kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnTbemCPp9yZgpY
@XantiaD
@XantiaD 5 жыл бұрын
It's right in the top left corner of the screen after the video finishes. Open your eyes and notice things before you complain that they don't exist.kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZDJnKOQiNOtaKs
@allentatum2775
@allentatum2775 5 жыл бұрын
jerk fudgewater fuck you
@hiccups55
@hiccups55 3 жыл бұрын
i'm a student again and i love history. and during the lockdown i have been watching sumerian history here in youtube. i think its amazing to know what early people do. and they will be amaze to know that their clay tablets have became valuably today. i hope they will find more. thanks
@bjbailey8798
@bjbailey8798 4 жыл бұрын
It's obvious that this is a portion of the story. How wonderful it would be if you could present the entire story, or at least larger portions of it. Keep up the good work.
@ClosedEyeVisualisations
@ClosedEyeVisualisations 6 жыл бұрын
What are those glasses he is wearing? Is it 3d? And where can one get such a scanner to scan an object then view it enlarged with more dimensions?
@chrishutton1458
@chrishutton1458 4 жыл бұрын
They are very expensive. We had a toy one at the college I used to work at. Cost about £100,000 without the laser scanner. It used a mechanical scanner and would take hours to perform a scan. The data was then passed to a 3D package, and would draw on your computer screen. No 3D goggles for a college.
@thomaswhitelake
@thomaswhitelake Жыл бұрын
I am so very happy that this man lives and that the British Museum does too! Thank you!
@Tophet1
@Tophet1 4 жыл бұрын
Well, living in the Tigris and Euphrates delta (prone to seasonal flooding) is it any wonder a family survived a one in one thousand year flood in a large Caracal ? and then have the story grow with each generational telling ?
@dianamller6812
@dianamller6812 4 жыл бұрын
Where can we read the hole text ?
@badgerbar3623
@badgerbar3623 3 жыл бұрын
What kinda glasses was he using to look at the model of the tablet
@dambaek.
@dambaek. 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the reason it was round was due to the fact that it didn't have to go anywhere. Keelboats are streamlined to go through the water but this one just was intended to hold cargo and float.
@donaldcarbone2593
@donaldcarbone2593 4 жыл бұрын
So Dubledor didn’t die he just got more interesting
@kaltonian
@kaltonian 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that glorious translation and very incitefull look into the ark
@francisfischer7620
@francisfischer7620 Жыл бұрын
Round! Round! Who imagined?! And Irvine Finkel - he must be one of the greatest treasures of the British Museum.
@3choblast3r4
@3choblast3r4 6 жыл бұрын
When you show off an ancient tablet with formerly sci fi tech and minority report like computer / gesture interface LOL
@Guzmanicable
@Guzmanicable 8 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video!
@1isaacmusic
@1isaacmusic 6 жыл бұрын
Well, the first clue the flood narrative is based on Babylonian texts ( Omen texts ) is that it's span is given as 150 days ( x 2 ), with this many days being 12,960,000 seconds, nominal . This in turn is how Mesopotamians wrote their customary synodic month average ( as calculated with the Babylonian Zig Zag function ) in base 10 fractions from the base 60 reckoning mean synodic month = 29 days 31' 50'' 8''' 20'''' ( Base 60 ) That is, 29 days, 31 minutes, 50 seconds, 8 thirds, and 20 fourths. Expressed in base 10 numerals in terms of days with an exact fractional remainder that equals: 29 + 31/60 + 50/(60 × 60) + 8/(60 × 60 × 60) + 20/(60 × 60 × 60 × 60) days = 29 + 31/60 + 50/3600 + 8/216000 + 20/12960000 days = 29 + 13753/25920 days Plato called this number ( 12,960,000 ) " The Lord of Better and Worse Births " ( Plato's Republic ) The reasoning is rather simple and dates to Naram Sin's metrological reformation - New Moons and in the Neo-Babylonian period eclipses, were both called " Floods " ( cf. the word " bubbulu in the Code of Hammurabi " for more ) , with " flood / deluge " also being the sobriquet of a priest-king ( As well as a term in correspondence between officials " It is a flood ! ", meaning " it's urgent you reply ASAP ! " secretsoftheages.freeforums.net/board/1/general-discussion
@MogaTange
@MogaTange Жыл бұрын
Boat look small, how many aminal you fit?
@hannve
@hannve 5 жыл бұрын
Its so weird that some dude just decided to understand that text and then did..Its just so amazing that people can read stuff like that
@lindaj5492
@lindaj5492 Жыл бұрын
“…and then did..”. Yes, he did - but only after many, many, many years of intensive study! What’s the hardest thing you’ve learned? How long did it take you? How much effort did you have to put into it? It is amazing, and I’m grateful that there are people like him!
@jean-lucwalker3690
@jean-lucwalker3690 7 жыл бұрын
Considering Abraham, the father of the jewish religion, was from Ur, it makes perfect sense, that they would both have accounts of this.
@Nilguiri
@Nilguiri 6 жыл бұрын
Except "Abraham" is a fictional character. There is absolutely no evidence that he ever existed.
@simhopp
@simhopp 6 жыл бұрын
at that time, Jerusalem was occupied by Melchizedek, who is the high priest, but who was he worshiping?
@skmc6915
@skmc6915 6 жыл бұрын
Nilguiri Seriously.....do you ever read anything before you blast off your stupidity?
@esmeraldagreen1992
@esmeraldagreen1992 6 жыл бұрын
Abraham existed
@Alusnovalotus
@Alusnovalotus 5 жыл бұрын
Jean-Luc Walker I would assume his version became garbled and distorted over times retelling seeing the Israelites had no written language until centuries later. Then you throw in the Babylonian captivity and boom.
@gamingdimension7
@gamingdimension7 4 жыл бұрын
We need more of Mr Finkle, Please do more videos with him !! Thanks
@leighfoulkes7297
@leighfoulkes7297 6 жыл бұрын
No offence but you seem to be pumping out a lot to keep that boat afloat. Is a circular ship a strange design to have, does it help make the ship larger or is it harder to build?
@zerosaber257
@zerosaber257 5 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore survived after all.
@stevewiles7132
@stevewiles7132 4 жыл бұрын
That's how you fit a square cubit into a round ark
@dziltener
@dziltener 3 жыл бұрын
Also, dangit, the links in the description are broken! :/
@Tgkay007
@Tgkay007 4 жыл бұрын
4:37 is it Kerala?
@chrishutton1458
@chrishutton1458 4 жыл бұрын
You could build this boat, because the people who wrote it knew what they were doing. That is so different to the many, many comments here. I would guess 95% of the comments here are just about inflating peoples egos.
@casoblantly
@casoblantly 4 жыл бұрын
So is rubbing your exposed palms and hand oils over the "more valuable than solid gold" artifact normal in the British Museum?
@Vicious0Sephiroth
@Vicious0Sephiroth 4 жыл бұрын
Probably fake, that's why. They expect normies to miss that sort of detail.
@anonamasnoname9098
@anonamasnoname9098 4 жыл бұрын
I was appalled at his handling of the supposedly valuable artifact, I cringed the whole time thinking this was surely a fake that the real one was somewhere else or he would not be handling it like that, please tell us , this just can't be
@nolan9101
@nolan9101 4 жыл бұрын
I came to the comments looking for somebody else who was questioning this. Jabbing his fingers into it to point at a line of text, slapping it between his palms, not wearing gloves, literally just picking it up and holding it... I knew somebody else would see so much wrong with that.
@jackerocket
@jackerocket 4 жыл бұрын
It is obviously a plastic copy of the original.
@Dirtbag-Hyena
@Dirtbag-Hyena 4 жыл бұрын
My thought was them disintegrating over time. Grabbing,holding, & flipping them would cause small particles to fall off like erosion. *EDIT* Ive watched A few videos now & they all seem to do that. It's so weird to me though,I collect coinage & paper money & I never handle it like that & none of mine are thousands of years old..So,I dont know. Clay just seems fragile,especially that old & dug up. On the other hand,to touch & be A part of something that old would be amazing. Thats why I like money & 30's/40's matchbooks,the history & life in an object.... Just amazing.
@imageez
@imageez 5 жыл бұрын
From Attra-Hasis, to Deukalion, to Noah, and also there is the Norse one. Were people on the past not remember names well, or were these stories different?
@marksimons8861
@marksimons8861 5 жыл бұрын
Dr Finkel has a presentation style that is bound to attract any listener.
@wilhelmu
@wilhelmu 6 жыл бұрын
im not saying it was a spaceship
@JakeKlineMusic
@JakeKlineMusic 5 жыл бұрын
You're not saying it, +NathanRomml , but I'm not NOT saying it...
@MrC0MPUT3R
@MrC0MPUT3R 5 жыл бұрын
I ain't sayin she's a gold digger
@arturoverde3807
@arturoverde3807 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s true..the builders of “the experience “ will seem to be quite Ham fisted 🇪🇸
@jimpalmer2981
@jimpalmer2981 2 жыл бұрын
I saw what you did there.
@TheWerdSmith
@TheWerdSmith 4 жыл бұрын
The development of multiple theories about a topic like the ark is curious. Indicating that the shape being confused will in turn confuse the nature and Identity of the actual truth. So this must be important that the ark had a specific Shape
@miketjdickey2954
@miketjdickey2954 4 жыл бұрын
That was extremely important to hear
@pankourlaut
@pankourlaut 5 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: what if the "ark" is planet earth
@demoncore7275
@demoncore7275 4 жыл бұрын
or what if its a space ship. just a random theory
@chrishutton1458
@chrishutton1458 4 жыл бұрын
The earth is populated by the descendants of the 'B' Ark!
@RebeckaSarkozy
@RebeckaSarkozy 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh....found the REAL Dumbledore! :)))
@egeoeris
@egeoeris 3 жыл бұрын
Biblical Ark: basically a huge wooden brick. Needs a full forest to be made, complex rooms and all sorts. Babylonian Ark: Circle shaped, it could just as be a glorified bowl, simple, efficient.
@xopha
@xopha 3 жыл бұрын
It also says to give it a roof like the abzu, an underwater base of the god enki, and seal it with asphalt
@stefanaguinaldosoerensen2355
@stefanaguinaldosoerensen2355 5 жыл бұрын
we're turning scientists into rock stars. I think we're alright.
@howtubeable
@howtubeable 4 жыл бұрын
No. Science is based on factual evidence. Not popularity.
@MyFavouriteStation
@MyFavouriteStation 5 жыл бұрын
no gloves whilst handling an artifact? Interesting...
@gianttigerfilms
@gianttigerfilms 4 жыл бұрын
MY FAVESTATION I was thinking the same thing!!! Like dude if that’s clay it’s gonna be dust if you keep handling it
@Snaakie83
@Snaakie83 4 жыл бұрын
Gloves cause more damage and wear handling these tablets.
@RafaelNelvam
@RafaelNelvam 4 жыл бұрын
they made a video explaining it kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHLdfaikqZt_qJI
@louisjov
@louisjov 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't expecting the Harry Potter Star Trek crossover at 3:30
@labibbidabibbadum
@labibbidabibbadum 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like some key moments of this were missing. Like, the first tablet was broken so the text was ambiguous, but suddenly he's holding another tablet that was worth its weight in gold... But where did he get it and was it telling the same story as the first tablet? And then he says "you could build this boat" and there's a mysterious sudden cut to a round boat... but it doesn't say how that boat came to be. Is this some new "minimalist history" story form?
@ThorirPP
@ThorirPP 4 жыл бұрын
It says in the description that this is just a small part of the full Irving Finkel's 'The Ark Before Noah: Decoding the Story of the Flood' So yeah, it is just some snippets with a lot of detail missing, because this isn't the full documentary/film
@fahimzahir9587
@fahimzahir9587 5 жыл бұрын
What if all these people are just trolling us. They read a story they want and then say yup...this is what it is.
@Snaakie83
@Snaakie83 4 жыл бұрын
Well...it's all verifiable.
@mohammedaljinabe1573
@mohammedaljinabe1573 5 жыл бұрын
will then...the ark is (gofa) هههههه طلع الارك كفه هههه it is some kind of ship we use in iraq to hunt fish in frat river and dijla
@falconofbalasagun4163
@falconofbalasagun4163 4 жыл бұрын
You mean the Euphrates and the Tigris rivers. الأجانب ما يفهمون دجلة والفرات.
@dziltener
@dziltener 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't ever practice history as a profession. All the things that are missing would frustrate me to no end! But nonetheless, it is a wonderful field I love spending countless hours on as a hobby.
@jairdabrini
@jairdabrini 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't there other sources/tablets who say Ziusudra built the Ark on the whispering orders of Enki to be shaped like a cube and with 9x9 room/chambers inside of it? Like with measurements also? Not that it matters much, but I call bs on this one claiming it to be round.
@eurostar0711
@eurostar0711 6 жыл бұрын
Its true. Its round because its the only shape that is buoyant, it will not sink. There are Sumerian tablet that give directions on how to build the Ark and scientists have attempted to rebuild the ark based on specifications from the ancient tablet, with the exact same materials used. Its actually a common type of vessel used by Sumerians to travel through Tigris and Euphrates rivers for trade and travel.
@erimgard3128
@erimgard3128 4 жыл бұрын
There are a few versions of the story. That doesn't make this one "BS" by any means. And this one can actually be built and float.
@Catubrannos
@Catubrannos 5 жыл бұрын
Asking if the Ark was round is like asking if the Minotaur had a brown or black head in reality. It didn't exist.
@Veldtian1
@Veldtian1 4 жыл бұрын
The Antediluvians gene spliced Chimeras, the more common ones surviving till modern times based off various primates are known as Bigfoot types, there's also Canids, Reptids Anphibiods so why not Bovine at one point.
@iaincaillte3356
@iaincaillte3356 4 жыл бұрын
Ecclesiastes 1:9 - What exists now is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done; there is nothing truly new on earth. The teller of tales tells of the flood again and over again. The flood that was is the flood that will be.
@deva12199212
@deva12199212 4 жыл бұрын
So u recreated the ark in kerala a state in india right..
@marrvyn
@marrvyn 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video - as always. Thank you. Unfortunately the audio is very low volume and difficult to understand even on headphones on my phone. Please avoid that when editing further videos and maybe even fix it for this one.
@silentstryker1590
@silentstryker1590 4 жыл бұрын
So...the ark may have been like a man made island, that's what I imagine anyway.
@illiteratethug3305
@illiteratethug3305 5 жыл бұрын
Was the ark round? ...Was Darth Vader a Capricorn?
@jacobandrews2663
@jacobandrews2663 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@inessamaria2428
@inessamaria2428 5 жыл бұрын
I love this channel so much.
@TheMcKenzieHaus
@TheMcKenzieHaus 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly a great video lol I was transfixed. Round. Honestly - I think that would be a good idea- no waste of space
@tomservo5007
@tomservo5007 5 жыл бұрын
so, that million dollar ark theme park in the US got it wrong. Oh the LOLs.
@michaelfox2433
@michaelfox2433 5 жыл бұрын
Was there a time you thought they got it right?
@MarkFilipAnthony
@MarkFilipAnthony 7 жыл бұрын
How do we know these tablets aren't written by ancient Fanfiction writers? I guess come to think about it, the ew testament is a fanfiction of the Tora by extending the story. And the book of Mormon is an even expanded fanfiction of those again
@3dpprofessor
@3dpprofessor 7 жыл бұрын
And the Tora was a story made up by the guy at 7-11 and civilization has never been different than it is right now because the only reality is what's before our eyes. Or, maybe history happened, people recorded it, and maybe they didn't get the facts 100%, but no one ever does, and if we can just search a little deeper and get a deeper understanding of things we'll find that the world is simultaneously more wonderful and more mundane than we thought.
@maxwellsimon4538
@maxwellsimon4538 7 жыл бұрын
The torah is a collection of many myths, legends, prophecies, and other testaments, both much older and closer to it's time of origin. A lot of things have been canonized since, a lot has been forgotten.
@Froggy711
@Froggy711 7 жыл бұрын
Just because people today get the facts wrong occasionally, doesn't mean we have to accept unreasonable claims by ancient writers- claims of world-spanning floods, for example.
@INTCUWUSIUA
@INTCUWUSIUA 6 жыл бұрын
3D Printing Professor or maybe people like to embellish things and after hundreds or thousands or years of embellishment military generals become dragon slaying heroes and theocratic rulers become invincible god kings.
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 6 жыл бұрын
Its from the epic of Gilgamesh not Noah's ark
@alienonion4636
@alienonion4636 4 жыл бұрын
Round could be relevant today considering current climates on the planet but round as in saucer. Yes, the kind that flies.
@Tophet1
@Tophet1 4 жыл бұрын
A Caracal
@hurdygurdyguy1
@hurdygurdyguy1 3 жыл бұрын
Sidebar lesson: Be careful who you choose for a teacher, it may kill them... in 2006 my family participated in an archaeological dig in southern Israel, a Roman fort. Our 9 year old son was very interested in Egypt and hieroglyphics. One of the team's professors was glad to help Sam begin learning hieroglyphics and cuneiform, Sam was very excited. Midway through the month the professor died from a massive heart attack (while playing basketball with some of his students). It was a shock to the whole team especially our son!!
@rosemcguinn5301
@rosemcguinn5301 7 жыл бұрын
The REAL question ought to have been "Was the ark the ONLY vessel that ancient cultures have said survived the flood?" That's the first question I'd ask.
@truthiseverything9511
@truthiseverything9511 5 жыл бұрын
Now this is a great question and deserves more attention.
@davidlewis1787
@davidlewis1787 6 жыл бұрын
Ark, arc... is it just me?
@GranRey-0
@GranRey-0 5 жыл бұрын
Arc: - a curved line - an electrical plasma discharge Ark: - A biblical boat/basket of bulrushes for Moses - A biblical flood vessel for Noah - A container for the 10 commandments (of the Covenant) - A cabinet for Torah scrolls in a synagogue
@alabastardmasterson
@alabastardmasterson 5 жыл бұрын
@@GranRey-0 way to be a literal asshat
@GranRey-0
@GranRey-0 5 жыл бұрын
@@alabastardmasterson Well, so far you're the only asshat in this thread. They're _literally_ different words, so knowing which way they're spelled helps you differentiate between them, and not make mistakes thinking that's just an alternative spelling. Ore your hear four the "Arc of Profit"?
@neilsumanda1538
@neilsumanda1538 5 жыл бұрын
come to think of it, a round boat could actually be adaptable to stormy waters, where waves and winds come from all direction. In a long haul you could only wish that waves will hit you at the front and not on the sides....
@anoobiscooking1193
@anoobiscooking1193 3 жыл бұрын
Round boat? Wait wat? How do u fit all in?
@DrAskildsen
@DrAskildsen 3 жыл бұрын
According to the Sumerian clay tablet Noah or some other name was a celestial that took his family and animals and a seed bank of every animal and plant with him. Noah had storage and a lab after like it sounds. Not so primitive after all.
@anoobiscooking1193
@anoobiscooking1193 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrAskildsen sounds about right
@tardwrangler
@tardwrangler 5 жыл бұрын
A boat... A round boat... A round ship... AN UFO ILLUMINATI???????
@chukkietutu5
@chukkietutu5 5 жыл бұрын
Conspiacy theory.....What if the flat earthers are right and we are still on the ark......dun dun duuuuuuuun!!!
@nadavhalevi9365
@nadavhalevi9365 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the blind men of Mesopotamia could read and write cuneiform. I mean, you can feel it with your fingertips and it's consisting of few basic shapes, much like braille does.
@valkeakirahvi
@valkeakirahvi 4 жыл бұрын
Not very likely. Only the most privileged people ever had the change to go through the training of learning to read. Maybe if they already knew how to read and then went blind there could be a chance.
@alexandersimmo7033
@alexandersimmo7033 Жыл бұрын
The blue tabletop lamp is clean as hell
@zdenek3010
@zdenek3010 7 жыл бұрын
First question should be "Was the ark around?? not " Was the ark round?"
@ZephrymWOW
@ZephrymWOW 6 жыл бұрын
The ark was most definitely built and was around... The part about the message from god on the other hand...
@texannationalist5887
@texannationalist5887 6 жыл бұрын
ok atheist
@Patrick-wy4op
@Patrick-wy4op 6 жыл бұрын
Zephrym for all we know that's how to make a boat to survive the flood not necessarily the ark
@Patrick-wy4op
@Patrick-wy4op 6 жыл бұрын
Roger N faitha faitha faitha
@foomr6097
@foomr6097 5 жыл бұрын
Zdeněk he just built it, it wasn't that big, you can see a replica there were prolly a bunch of them
@MrPuff1026
@MrPuff1026 6 жыл бұрын
0:31 ......PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFHHHHHHH.......... haha.................. sorry...... continue please
@carlinjack1
@carlinjack1 3 жыл бұрын
When he says Circle, and says the translation Kipatti, is that related to Chipatti as in the round bread?
@vysakhak191
@vysakhak191 3 жыл бұрын
Where I am from ( kerala, India), it is called chapatti. I have heard it means 'round flat bread' in language that came to india from regions of Persia. So you may be right!!
@carlinjack1
@carlinjack1 3 жыл бұрын
@@vysakhak191 Thank you for the reply! Seems very interesting! Wishing you well at this time 🙏❤️
@vysakhak191
@vysakhak191 3 жыл бұрын
@@carlinjack1 I wish you the same😊
@kevincaldwell4707
@kevincaldwell4707 2 жыл бұрын
Now this channel is the best reason for the existence of KZbin. No fake news or stupid anti-vac people, but having an intelligent well known organization showing real items for all to view.
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