Was the Ballerina Farm article biased?

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[@veronica5lmaa]

As a journalist myself I wonder what people expected. Reporters should not write what you want, but what they see. This doesn't mean they don't have bias, we all have. The Neelemans should have asked themselves if showing how their real life is would do something good for their public image, this is not the journalist job. Also, thinking the 'mormon experience' is normal for the whole world shows how oblivious they are.

[@FishareFriendsNotFood972]

You can't chase visibility and then complain if some people share opinions about you that you do not like. I think public figures do have a right to some privacy (for instance, I do NOT like paparazzi), but statements they choose to make directly to reporters is fair game.

[@beepbeepmeepmeep]

‘Inviting a journalist into your home is a risk, as any billionaire knows’ 💀 exc response vid Sam. Also your fit. Incredible

[@einfachmalessen]

Love this perspective and, as always, your kind, empathetic and down to earth response that shows what the opposite of biased looks like. Thank you ❤

[@ZelphOntheShelf]

🥹🥲💓

[@debbiebuttars5598]

Completely agree! 💯💯💯

[@m0L3ify]

I'm always kind of blown away by people who are upset because they talked to a journalist but can't control the narrative after the fact. Like, what did you expect?

[@bryangarcia5207]

A basic level of integrity especially since the article was egregiously trying to paint the husband as a villain. Word choice can change entire stories even if the details are true in two different versions.

[@donttouchme9063]

I can’t help but to think that her multiple pregnancies and constant work are harmful to her health? Like literal physical health. I'm afraid to imagine what could happen to her or already is, purely worrying for another person. There are things that money can't fix. And her husband 100% doesn't give a damn, because he will find another ballerina without any problems

[@Ann963]

Yep! Everything you said!

[@inaRIMPAU]

She spends a week bedridden every now and again. SHE can't keep it up, even with a billionaire's income.

[@beeenie822]

@@inaRIMPAUHow much of that is she allowed to spend when she receives just an egg apron as a birthday gift?

[@catie5939]

You're so good at marrying compassion and empathy with being direct and truthful. We can have compassion for Hannah Neeleman without painting her differently than she is. She's grown up in a cult. Cult life is all she's ever known. Accepting Hannah's narrative that her life is 100% fine when everyone can clearly see and hear with their own senses what she's been through (the egg apron, etc), is WILD. It's giving "Biden is fine and has no problems, nothing to see here". Like, we have EYES and EARS though. D...did you forget we had eyes and ears...?

[@kkturtle12]

Absofuckinlutely. Thanks for this very normal and level headed take.

[@400_billion_suns]

You are an excellent, well-reasoned, and articulate communicator. Great job with this short.

[@ZelphOntheShelf]

Wow thank you 🙈🩷

[@joseejohnstun4641]

I say this to my husband all the time about Sam. She’s just fantastic

[@WillowT442]

This is the best level headed take I have seen on this so far.

[@debbiebuttars5598]

Sam!!! You are literally the best. So gracious, compassionate and articulate. You always make the most reasoned explanations. Not to mention, I agree wit you completely! ❤

[@ZelphOntheShelf]

That is so nice, thank you!!! (Just read a few mean comments so this really uplifted me 😅🩷🩷🩷)

[@clvsterfvckofwhatthefvck7981]

What I was most shocked about was the fact that she gets pregnant IMMEDIATELY after giving birth. I am surprised no one else is mentioning this very problematic issue. This screams abuse and red flag to me. It makes my heart sad to hear that she has kids less than a year after she's already had one...am I missing something?

[@ZelphOntheShelf]

I guess maybe she just really loves being pregnant but sounds VERY tough to me 😅

[@3vaniamaria]

Daniel meant that she gets pregnant nine months after she gives birth. Their kids are all 18 months apart

[@clvsterfvckofwhatthefvck7981]

@@3vaniamaria oooh, okay. I couldn’t believe no one else was saying anything but that makes sense. Thanks!

[@mermaidcatching]

QT Cinderella said it sounded like they subscribed to the official Mormon view on intercourse, that it’s only for the explicit intent of procreation. And apparently there’s a loophole for intimacy during pregnancy. So the implication is he just really wants to f his wife, but in a godly way lol

[@KarenHawes]

So, the hubby inherited his wealth from his dad's empire and his wife built an online empire, yet hubby still gets to act like he's the one who's "successful" and gets to tell his wife how many kids to produce for him? Hm

[@catht9653]

Absolutely brilliant

[@oleny-3-]

This case feels very similar to my parents’ story. Though this may not be the case for the ballerina, as my mum’s child I yearn that she gets to live a fulfilling life where she gets to make her own choices.

[@ZZ-bg4df]

Best response to the article and the discourse around the article!

[@manorton6709]

Well said.

[@margaretboughton8240]

You are brilliant!!! Thanks for helping me understand the situation better!!!

[@alexavandongen847]

This is such a well-done, very thought-out response. Thank you for this!

[@ZelphOntheShelf]

🩷🩷🩷!!!

[@madisonbunten3082]

I know this has nothing to do with the topic - but i LOVE your shirt !!

[@__-tz6xx]

Some people are fish in water and it is hard to explain to the fish what water is.

[@Butterfly-ql4pg]

I just want to ask the Neelemans what did you think was going to happen if you openly admitted to Daniel not being super supportive of Hannah's career goals and trying to pressure her into starting their family as soon as possible? To me, the journalist was just sharing what she saw and letting readers draw their own conclusions, which is kind of what you're supposed to do when you're a reporter. Also, no decent person has a problem with women being homemakers if it's what they really want. They do, however, take issue with patriarchal family structures and blatant misogyny in a relationship

[@Articolate]

Brava, Sam.

[@tcm087]

Something can be toxic and traditional.

[@BeckyUSA]

Wonderful commentary. Thank you ❤

[@andreahan2266]

Love this take but more importantly WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR TOP?

[@ZelphOntheShelf]

PacSun!

[@anainesgonzalez8868]

We are all wanting to get it 😂 I do not pay attention at all most of the time but this is so gorgeous

[@ShulaMG]

Well said

[@leocoyote6579]

more importantly: your fit goes indeliby hard (that’s facetious obvi this is a very important discussion and i appreciate your nuanced take :D)

[@ZelphOntheShelf]

INDELIBLY

[@minaguta4147]

💯💯💯

[@anainesgonzalez8868]

🙌

[@bgroesser]

I'm male so it isn't like I know how painful birth is but I can't imagine saying no to an epidural. What, does she not get her mom card stamped if she has one? Is this some weird man-thing to impress your dude-friends that your wife is tough or something? Seriously, my wife had so many complications from pregnancy we had my wires snipped before she gave birth.

[@Aelffwynn]

As a woman who has never, and likely will never, give birth, let me know if you figure it out. More importantly, if you can figure out how to convince women to stop MARRYING these controlling weirdos, that would be perfect.

[@annwood6812]

Agreed. The epidural comment was super concerning. There's something wrong here.

[@alyshaking]

No idea. I know some women plan to go drug-free because they think that's how it should be (it's very "I'm doing it the natural way" which is not great). I ended up doing it drug free because I literally forgot that it was a choice in the moment. I tried one puff of something (it's been a while) because my husband offered it but it made me super dizzy. I definitely didn't plan it that way though and my husband was all for me having pain relief. Honestly, the people not having the baby should not be giving their opinions with regards to pain relief.

[@joleenfernandes8490]

Just let her live her life 😅 its none of our business

[@Moon0525_]

So if she doesn't want the court of public opinion, she shouldn't share her entire life that's full of red flags and systemic gendered abuse lol and it's fine for people to point that out when she's publicly advertising that's what's going on

[@hmusica9923]

She wrote a blog online about her story. She didn't drop out of Julliard, there are videos of her dancing at school while pregnant, and apparently Daniel dropped out of the sports team he was in to move to New York until she finished school. Anyway apart from that fact I find your take interesting and definitely something to think about. To me Hannah comes across as a business woman, well articulated and in an equal partnership in her videos. But I'll think about the nuances you provided here.

[@Saran_wrap]

This. And she started competing in beauty pageants to help her parents pay for her college. I think saying the article had an angle is admitting the bias. I urge people to read Hannah’s bio on her website. Saying she couldn’t get an epidural if Daniel was there is also speculation. If she lowered her voice at all, maybe it’s because Daniel was on the phone? Just to add the nuance here.

[@ZelphOntheShelf]

I didn’t think about the phone call thing, I hope you’re right and thanks for pointing that out! 😅

[@ZelphOntheShelf]

Ok I just checked, Daniel left the room for the phone call

[@Saran_wrap]

@@ZelphOntheShelf Good point. Unfortunately getting an epidural even for us run of the mill folk has its judgments. I’ve gotten more guff from the holistic moms than from religious moms about that though.

[@brooke_reiverrose2949]

@@Saran_wrap The horseshoe bends ever inward

[@kieronkassner3913]

I think Hannah is following in her family's footsteps. She came from a large loving Mormen family. Her parents had many children , they do too. Why is there so much focus on her husband?

[@MillaJ100]

💯💯💯