Was The Mimic ALWAYS Planned? | MatPat Reacts to FuhNaff "The Clue That Solves FNAF Security Breach"

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Last week we started a reaction to Fuhnaff's new theory on FNAF Security Breach! With so many unanswered questions left about that game, we need someone who can see up and give us answers! With Help Wanted 2 and Ruin DLC both happening already it's about time we wrap up Security Breach.
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@FuhNaff
@FuhNaff Ай бұрын
I have never shaved my legs, but I will try anything once.
@foxy02919
@foxy02919 Ай бұрын
PARDON? Wow top reply FIRST
@RlrOfWorldzYT
@RlrOfWorldzYT Ай бұрын
How does this only have a few likes 😂😂😂
@graptical
@graptical Ай бұрын
the boy himself
@-Monty-421
@-Monty-421 Ай бұрын
WoMp
@TheFistOfNuevaYork
@TheFistOfNuevaYork Ай бұрын
lol hey John
@artsy_h0e28
@artsy_h0e28 Ай бұрын
i see matpat is taking fashion inspo from the duolingo bird now
@SkyChaser-
@SkyChaser- Ай бұрын
Ey yo! XDD
@ajakakakak
@ajakakakak Ай бұрын
U mean soft onceler ✋
@artsy_h0e28
@artsy_h0e28 Ай бұрын
@ajakakakak the onceler is an evil capitalist. the duolingo bird is a threatening, antagonistic presence committing crimes against those who don't value education. tell me Matt isn't extremely duolingo bird coded ✋🏻
@IAMNOONE111
@IAMNOONE111 Ай бұрын
@@UTTPOfficerRonaldoCR7 at least he is still in GTLIVE
@Wackowarner100
@Wackowarner100 Ай бұрын
​@@ajakakakakyes
@ShenHibiki
@ShenHibiki Ай бұрын
Matpat: "It was cold so I wore this warm coat" Also Matpat: "Snowman and Coat? WHAT COULD IT MEAN?"
@Cloud_Animation
@Cloud_Animation Ай бұрын
MatPat: "I'm retiring" GTLive: "STOP THE CAP"
@commandercorl1544
@commandercorl1544 Ай бұрын
He has always said he would be continuing GTLive until Early Autumn, it's not like he lied. He repeated this at least 3 times as well, he just stepped down as host from 4/5 channels.
@Cloud_Animation
@Cloud_Animation Ай бұрын
@@commandercorl1544 Nah I'm aware it's just funny to make jokes about it lol
@joshford4053
@joshford4053 Ай бұрын
17:00 It's a piñata. Teaching it to smack the Freddy piñata at kids' parties. Later on at 19:07 its being taught to tell kids to put jackets on when its cold outside, hence the snowman. It's teaching the endo how to play with kids
@OkayJose
@OkayJose Ай бұрын
What’s the baby one about then?
@joshford4053
@joshford4053 Ай бұрын
@@OkayJose coddle the baby and give them a toy to make them happy
@mackthegreeny1096
@mackthegreeny1096 Ай бұрын
THANK YOU i was getting so annoyed that they didn't realize this 😭
@end_slayer
@end_slayer Ай бұрын
@@mackthegreeny1096 SAME
@Aisenhelm
@Aisenhelm Ай бұрын
@@OkayJose baby to toddler, the aging of babies
@katetoolate234
@katetoolate234 Ай бұрын
38:40 I love that John so accurately predicted MatPat would see and solve the code. 😆 Well done, sir. Well done! 👏🏻
@stripes7575
@stripes7575 Ай бұрын
It’s so cute honestly. He knew Mat wouldn’t be far. 😭
@BiggiecheeseofficialYFGATOD923
@BiggiecheeseofficialYFGATOD923 Ай бұрын
MATPAT LIED TO YOU ALL I EXPOSED THE TRUTH (INSANE!!)
@BiggiecheeseofficialYFGATOD923
@BiggiecheeseofficialYFGATOD923 Ай бұрын
MATPAT LIED TO YOU ALL I EXPOSED THE TRUTH (INSANE!!);:
@user-uv3jf8ff7h
@user-uv3jf8ff7h Ай бұрын
​@@BiggiecheeseofficialYFGATOD923shut up bot
@pedrostormrage
@pedrostormrage Ай бұрын
0:48 "It gives soft Onceler" 5:07 "I'm getting out of the bath, I'm a little bit wet, it's kinda cold in my room" The Tumblr sexyman poll has a new challenger (that coat does look pretty snuggly) 🧥 11:01 "I'm no longer the Game Theory guy" You're more than that: you're a senior theorist now (and also a theory professor/advisor; everyone else can take notes from you) 🎓 15:52 "What's a robot supposed to learn from this?" That's for the robot to figure out (it's called reinforcement learning: the feedback is just a measure of performance, not what the correct answer/desired behavior is) 🤖 25:48 "I've spent the last two years looking at the sticky notes" **smiles** Sticky note room: creating rapport among FNAF theorists since 2021 📝 59:42 "I'm retired, Ash" "You chose to stay on this couch" That't not Scott Cawthon's couch, though (GTLive is not married to FNAF) 😛 1:11:46 "John, you have won my head canon and my heart" That's probably one of the highest compliments John could get 👍
@rizzohutchings
@rizzohutchings Ай бұрын
I feel like the franchise has an opportunity to make a compelling antagonist out of the mimic. In the first few games, we learn that the animatronics are possessed by ghosts which gave us a reason to care about them as characters. It's interesting that the animatronics are now AI but have shown to have a sense of humanity that the older models don't. Ex. Glamrock Freddy tells us that he was a blank endoskeleton, like we see in the nursery, before he was Freddy. He could've been a Monty or a Roxy or a Chica but, by chance, he was a Freddy. He isn't a singularity, he's a clone. He's just a Freddy in an ocean of Freddy's. Why? He could've been anything but he's just Freddy. If he had been left to learn and develop on his own, who would he have been? Endoskeletons in the nursery are trained as replacements, copies, in a secluded area where the AI can only learn what the staff want them to learn. They have no choice but to be forced into a rigid identity by Fazbear Co. Ex. Roxanne Wolf is shown to be insecure about herself, which is an odd trait for an AI to have. Where did she learn this trait from? I think it was Cassie. It's shown that they knew one another pre-Ruin and that they spent a lot of time with each other. My headcanon is that Cassie is insecure and views herself as worthless, like Roxy. It's not much but we know that no one came to her birthday party at the Pizzaplex and I imagine that would shake a kid's self esteem HARD. Mimic was built as a host for Glitchtrap but it didn't go to plan and so it's hidden away in the basement, deep beneath the Pizzaplex. It's a blank slate. It won't be trained as a Freddy or a Roxy etc. It has nothing to learn from so it needs to escape. Humans learn from those around them, like the animatronics, but have different experiences that make them singular which isn't a luxury most of the AI-based animatronics have. I think Freddy and Roxy have, from the time spent with Gregory and Cassie, developed personality traits that stray from the Fazbear Co. programming, making them distinct but not unique. It's too late for them to be singular because, though they are deviated, they are Freddy and Roxy still. Mimic doesn't have this problem. Mimic is a blank slate and if given the chance to discover it's identity on it's own terms, by experiencing life as a human would, could find it's own unique identity. I think that's what it wants most of all but it has to escape to do it. Mimic is desperate for a sense of self, it's in it's programming, and I think we see hints of that. In conclusion, I think it would be interesting to explore humanity through AI and the animatronics, and in particular the mimic, which isn't a new concept but could be a direction for the franchise going forward as it seems a bit aimless at the minute.
@meninowiz8935
@meninowiz8935 6 сағат бұрын
That's amazing
@sqrrl
@sqrrl Ай бұрын
totally wasn't saying "it's a pinata" every time he asked what the freddy head was, desperately wanting my message to traverse time to reach mat
@mingfanzhang4600
@mingfanzhang4600 Ай бұрын
😊😊
@mingfanzhang8927
@mingfanzhang8927 Ай бұрын
😊
@zubiayasar1945
@zubiayasar1945 Ай бұрын
Totoly corract
@mingfanzhang4600
@mingfanzhang4600 Ай бұрын
@@zubiayasar1945 🤪
@Cross_stitch422
@Cross_stitch422 Ай бұрын
Same lol
@suzie_do_you_copy
@suzie_do_you_copy Ай бұрын
I think Mat (who is retired), ID (who is scared to play the games herself), and John should collab to play Into the pit or the Carnival game when it eventually (and hopefully) comes out
@QuestionDeca
@QuestionDeca Ай бұрын
ID DID play Ruin, and got so frustrated with it she rage quit, not fear, Rage. Otherwise I agree with you.
@suzie_do_you_copy
@suzie_do_you_copy Ай бұрын
@QuestionDeca I mean yes, but she also said multiple times before that she's scared of getting jumpscared so she might not play Into the pit nor the og games
@HaleySchwefringhaus
@HaleySchwefringhaus Ай бұрын
Okay but you have to add dawko in.
@BiggiecheeseofficialYFGATOD923
@BiggiecheeseofficialYFGATOD923 Ай бұрын
MATPAT LIED TO YOU ALL I EXPOSED THE TRUTH (INSANE!!)R
@BiggiecheeseofficialYFGATOD923
@BiggiecheeseofficialYFGATOD923 Ай бұрын
MATPAT LIED TO YOU ALL I EXPOSED THE TRUTH (INSANE!!)YUI
@emmalemmadingdong69
@emmalemmadingdong69 Ай бұрын
Throwing spaghetti on the wall here. What if the mimic is meant to become the adult version of Gregory, like the Charlie bots in The Fourth Closet?
@Ch1psYT
@Ch1psYT Ай бұрын
Some thoughts I've just had: Gregory in Security Breach IS the young adolescent mimic. He escapes the post-it room, gets inside Freddy (causing him to glitch out) and then Vanny is trying to get him back because she knows what he is. Once the game is done and you (as Mimic/Gregory) go into the basement, he gets trapped and then as time goes on cobbles together parts from the basement to make a bigger body. This leads to Ruin where the mimic still uses Gregorys voice to lure Cassie to free him from the confines of the basement. Gregory was never a real kid, he was the creepy bot, the young adolescent mimic
@Electro-rj1sv
@Electro-rj1sv Ай бұрын
One question, when did gregory get inside of freddy? I always thought it was after he glitches out.
@YuniX2
@YuniX2 Ай бұрын
Except that there's a small chance of getting a call from the real gregory in ruin. Meaning he's not the mimic.
@Owen01
@Owen01 Ай бұрын
@@Electro-rj1sv After he glitched out and collapsed. Gregory said he climbed in while he was “sleeping”
@EpicRandomness555
@EpicRandomness555 Ай бұрын
The part that’s terrifying is that that’s not impossible
@cwhong2179
@cwhong2179 23 күн бұрын
If that’s so, how did Cassie develope friendship with Gregory and who sealed up the mimic room?
@heyimweird280
@heyimweird280 Ай бұрын
I love that John left Mat a message he knew he would find in his video. It's the cutest thing I've ever seen❤
@tartra
@tartra Ай бұрын
And he found it faster than the Poppy's Playtime one, which just required walking around a few hallways :P
@zombiekileer
@zombiekileer Ай бұрын
It's very interesting that the "monster" learns the lullaby from the mother technically right? Which is consistent with John saying Vanny was teaching the mimic. I think the story is explaining how Gregory initially found the mimic and they trapped it after letting it out. It tries again with Cassie but at that point it's mastered it's craft, it doesn't spend Ruin learning how to trick Cassie, it does it from the beginning. I mean if i has Gregory's voice it had to hear him in the first place, one way or another.
@Artistic_Anime_Trash
@Artistic_Anime_Trash Ай бұрын
We could also interpret it as maybe the “mother” is Gregory? And the son could still be Cassie. It’s a bit of a stretch, I’ll admit. The only reason I bring it up is because the only person we see being lured in that way by the mimic is Cassie (in the games anyway). And Cassie is being lured by Gregory’s voice. Plus the two clearly have a pre-existing friendship, and ruin shows that Gregory has comforted Cassie in the past. Like I said though, it’s a stretch.
@attilatormasi1733
@attilatormasi1733 Ай бұрын
It very clearly does NOT fit Cassy. From the beginning of the game (or to be more precise even before that) Cassy is lured in by the Mimic's Gregory voice. In the story however it learns the voice. This tells me the Mimic tried this tactic with Gregory but ultimately failed and retries with Cassy instead. Now we just need to fit in the Blob because for some reason that is also a real thing
@snapdragonboi5820
@snapdragonboi5820 Ай бұрын
@@UTTPOfficerRonaldoCR7stop spamming
@Tessstone11
@Tessstone11 Ай бұрын
​@@UTTPOfficerRonaldoCR7you have uploaded once mat pat clearly has more dedication than you
@loosecannon8436
@loosecannon8436 Ай бұрын
@@Artistic_Anime_Trash I feel that is the best way to interpret that as well.
@OldSchoolLPsGames
@OldSchoolLPsGames Ай бұрын
I'm really looking forward to a John/MatPat collab. There's no way they don't do that, right? They seem to genuinely like each other when they've been in videos together before, and it's really sweet!
@dakotamorrison7752
@dakotamorrison7752 Ай бұрын
35:24 I don't know about anything else, but this made me have a thought. What if Gregory was the other person? The first time we see him he is running and hiding from vanny. You mentioned multiple places that look like someone was living there. And in the notes the parts "no hide" and "let get snack" sound like two kids secretly hanging out but one of them is hiding from something or someone, and the other is trying to help them or comfort them. What if gregory and the mimic were friends when they were younger and still learning to read and write? Doesn't make complete sense, but it's an interesting thought and i figured i might as well voice it.
@wowlookyes
@wowlookyes Ай бұрын
​@fire_icegirlGregory x Mimic would be... interesting? Terrifying?
@taliasutera2578
@taliasutera2578 Ай бұрын
Crazy idea. Maybe it's the mimic and gregory talking in the post-it room. It'd explain the "All for me" post-it and why the mimic was able to copy gregory's voice and personality so well.
@ed765super
@ed765super Ай бұрын
It also kinda fits the candy cadet story a little
@taliasutera2578
@taliasutera2578 Ай бұрын
@@ed765super the mother in this scenario would be gregory and the child would be cassie. The "lullaby" would be a stand in for their friendship since Cassie didn't have any friends other than gregory.
@MajorMelon_14
@MajorMelon_14 Ай бұрын
reported @@UTTPOfficerRonaldoCR7
@purplepedantry
@purplepedantry Ай бұрын
Perhaps, but it seems like it might possibly have more than one dead end in terms of how it would logically connect to the rest of the story.
@samueltorres9417
@samueltorres9417 Ай бұрын
yoooooo wait you kinda cooked with this
@Artistic_Anime_Trash
@Artistic_Anime_Trash Ай бұрын
I think an idea is, that maybe Gregory was freed from the virus when Freddy glitched on stage. Like Gregory WAS evil, but the Gregory we play as doesn’t seem to fit with those older motivations. So I believe that by the time he meets Freddy he’s been cured & that’s why all the other animatronics are after him because he’s no longer infected.
@mojam2794
@mojam2794 Ай бұрын
Please ignore these hateful comments I really liked this idea and I think you should send an email to him through his website
@DezAmmySel
@DezAmmySel Ай бұрын
​@@mojam2794 just report em and move on, if you respond to the trolls they win. "don't feed the trolls."
@seabass-nj2qb
@seabass-nj2qb Ай бұрын
any proof of that?
@Gosso-qi1vp
@Gosso-qi1vp Ай бұрын
just commented the exact same, yeah I totally think this makes sense from a narrative standpoint.
@cleverusername8319
@cleverusername8319 Ай бұрын
I thought Gregory was supposed to be freed like Vanny when someone beat the BB game in the hideout
@phantomsoul2045
@phantomsoul2045 Ай бұрын
The concept of Robo Grego is something that can benefit John's theory if you think that Gregory is being controlled to hinder Vanessa from outside help her therapists so he got rid of them but something happened at the beginning of Security breach that frees him from glitch trap and he then goes and frees Vanessa in retaliation.
@dannyb2344
@dannyb2344 Ай бұрын
I really think that the whole point of the notes about the “creepy bot” and “it’s attracted to sound” was originally referring to Springtrap/Burntrap when security breach first came out. I feel like everyone forgets that fnaf 3 was the game where that the main mechanic was to lure springtrap away with sound. I feel like the most likely scenario was that Steelwool genuinely didn’t expect how the community would react so confused and negative to the return of springtrap especially after the fact that he was supposedly dead... twice before. I think glitchtrap was definitely meant to be the main antagonist with the help of Vanessa and that some how springtrap got his mind back or never died. It’s obviously from the reactions of the fans, that they made ruin to redirect people’s attention from burntrap and glitchtrap. I also feel like the postet room was meant to be either Gregory as a robot learning or some other robot either AI or Soul infused AI. But with Fahnafs theory, it doesn’t explain the table of the Afton family in the same room! The mimic wouldn’t know anything about Afton’s family unless the room is dedicated to a robot child of Afton like CC or Mike or even Elizabeth. And less we forget about Freddy’s personality completely change just because he saw Gregory which must have meant something like Mike’s soul recognized him or something of that nature. Plus the stickies with the different people talking to each other, what if Gregory is a robot and that the only reason he and Cassie are friends is because Cassie visited the pizzaplex with her dad and liked adventuring and one day found Gregory and she decided to help him learn and experience party’s and such. Maybe Cassie’s dad reprogrammed Freddy and Roxie to look after his daughter and her best friend?
@gr33nriver77
@gr33nriver77 Ай бұрын
Sound =/= sounds of children which is the only thing that lures Afton specifically
@silivrengamer
@silivrengamer Ай бұрын
I think the end of ruin pretty explicitly shows us that we have NO idea what Gregory was doing between the events of SB and Ruin. The therapy sessions are a device to tell us that we are playing a character that isn’t what he seems. The events of SB are only tangentially true. They are told as if Gregory is innocent, when he’s not. It’s a bait and switch.
@the_godbodor7026
@the_godbodor7026 Ай бұрын
To be fair, if what John says is correct about the Mimic being Burntrap after Glitchtrap is completely killed by Gregory and Cassie’s Dad then the models not completely matching would still be possible as any damage the reckless Mimic received it would likely just replace with whatever junk is around. The elevator at the end of ruin shows that it doesn’t care about damaging itself (the hand coming off in the door that it rips off itself).
@scottcockton
@scottcockton Ай бұрын
I alway thought the mimic and glitch trap being 2 separate entities fighting over control of a body which is what became burn trap then afton gets killed or becomes mxes which is a possibility due to the similarities and the mimic regains control and becomes its own thing
@aceisaperson
@aceisaperson Ай бұрын
What you and mat are forgetting is the fact that the burn trap ending is not canon. The princess quest one is canon. That form of afton doesn’t exist. Therefore it doesn’t matter if they are similar or not. John was talking about how it was their intention to turn mimic into burntrap BUT that the plan was STOPPED.
@scottcockton
@scottcockton Ай бұрын
@@aceisaperson just because the drawing exist dose not mean it burn trap not canon tangle is real and where did Gregory get the inspiration until I see scrap trap corpse burn trap existed
@deleteduser12f
@deleteduser12f Ай бұрын
@@scottcockton gregory prolly played fnaf
@egsbenedict
@egsbenedict Ай бұрын
All the memes and things that happen aside, Some of this universe doesn't make sense, It says in the books and in the description of the Mimic that when he finished with all the bots he started on the workers, Yet somehow the place was not only completed but also hugely popular and completely bangin' until Security Breach, Which brings up more questions about Gregory and when/why he was involved
@krystalingram
@krystalingram Ай бұрын
2:20 IT’S BEEN 2 YEARS?!?! Oh my the time has flown SO FAST! So glad you joined Team Theorist, Ash! The witty banter is always a joy!
@Zodiackiller211
@Zodiackiller211 Ай бұрын
Lol I was about to post the same thing. It feels like it was just yesterday that mirror mat was still here. Much love ash 💚
@Alphasnowbordergirl
@Alphasnowbordergirl Ай бұрын
I do think the Candy Cadet Story is Cassie and her dad. The dad and cassie visit the pizza plex often, as shown with cassie knowing roxie well and her dad working there (which parallels the Mom and son live in the dark woods) The monster (mimic) lives in the pizza plex. The dad helps captures the mimic and locks him down there with greggory and vanessa parallels with the part with "the mom finds out about the monster and locks it in the basement". It says the mom, meaning the son doesn't know about the monster or didn't help contain him. Meaning Cassie's dad didn't have to let Cassie know. Cassie, since she was at the pizzaplex often, met Gregory there who was also there often. Gregory could be the lullybye itself that the mimic learned from watching as both were at the pizzaplex often. Then she hears gregory's voice and unlocks the door.
@rain_drops2723
@rain_drops2723 Ай бұрын
I like that explanation actually. That makes sense 🤔
@thelastportuga4360
@thelastportuga4360 Ай бұрын
that also aligns with the fact that if we consider the little boy to be Cassie the genders are reversed so it wouldn't be a stretch for the mother to be her dad
@johnman8398
@johnman8398 Ай бұрын
I dont think this quite works because the story involves 2 characters and a lullaby from the mother. If Cassies dad is the mother in the story what's the lullaby? How can Gregory's voice be the lullaby without being the mother stand in?
@dustrose8101
@dustrose8101 Ай бұрын
@@johnman8398Gregory's voice is the lullaby. The mimic learned Gregory's voice, who is also Cassie's friend, to lure her down to free it a la the boy and the lullaby.
@silentsoul4925
@silentsoul4925 Ай бұрын
Another part that I thought of to add onto this was "the next day the mom goes out to find food" or whatever the sentence was and it sort of lines up with Cassie's dad leaving the note of "I'll be gone for a while here's money for food" which is a bit different but you know 🤷‍♀️ a thought at least 😂
@toonman5099
@toonman5099 Ай бұрын
16:13 - 20:52 - The Freddy head was a pinata and "smash with a bat." - The snowman and coat was "bundle up when cold." (which is ironic given that Matt had to wear a coat to bundle up lol) - The two babies were "tuck a baby in bed." For the "Burntrap ending not being canon" thing: - Here's the thing, before we even put on the V.A.N.N.I. mask on, we can catch a glimpse of the Blob still roaming around the Pizzaplex, which to me indicates that the Burntrap animatronic itself may exist somehow somewhere. Plus honestly I'm in the camp of "all the endings are canon, it's just they're the result of a different night through the week, with 5 endings that are not canon and a secret very complex to complete one being the canon endings, 5 nights with a bonus 6th night that explains (or at least tries to explain) everything that was going on. It's just that the CONTEXT for each ending isn't what we thought they were, at least to me, they're broad strokes of what was going on for each night Gregory was spending at the Pizzaplex. Because a bit point of contention I'm still unsure of is "was anything we found in the game really what we assume them to be?" Because there is an inherent nature of "it's possible NONE of this could be real and we're being lied to via neural implant." For the possible "Mimic endo = Burntrap endo": - I can kinda see it, it's not a 1:1 but the general idea is KINDA there. But then I feel like the mashed together mascot suit the Mimic CAN wear needs to be kept in context of what the Mimic was trying to do. Although it could be like "he was being molded into Afton before it was being stopped then it went on to try to replicate Gregory." Ruin's Candy Cadet story: - Pretty sure it's "Greg = mom; Cassie = child; Mimic = monster."
@CJK_781
@CJK_781 Ай бұрын
i feel like the Blob appearing in the beginning of Ruin is less of a "all of this is still true to an extent but its not what Gregory sees" and more of a "the rest of this ending is Retconned but the Blob is still canon"... that's more of what i interpreted it as
@toonman5099
@toonman5099 Ай бұрын
@@CJK_781 That's fair. And it was more "context for us the players" rather than "what Greg (or Cassie after putting the mask on) sees." Cause my thing is that not only do we still see the Blob before putting the mask on, but they DID intend to have the Burntrap ending be canon so I feel like that should still be kept in mind somewhat. Plus there's the whole aspect of "the mask changes design when as a part of Vanny's costume vs when Cassie (and her dad in Help Wanted 2) gets it."
@Imafrenchbanana
@Imafrenchbanana Ай бұрын
My dud just wrote a book 👀
@goddessbraxia
@goddessbraxia Ай бұрын
Mat, I hope you see this: Gregory and Cassie have a history as seen in the Roxy raceway areas of Ruin. Gregory consoling her. and befriending her. We know Cassie struggled with friends and the like as seen in the same area. Gregory is the Lullaby, for the whole story and not one of the characters or just at the end. If Cassie is the little boy, then who is to say Her father isnt the mother? we know he was involved with the mimic and the basement. possibly even being the one to build the MXES security for it. So he is the mother protecting the boy. So that would mean him "singing the lullaby" is bringing Gregory into her life. whether he is a robot or not. The former actually better supports this as Bonnie Bro could make Gregory as a stand in since Cassie didnt have friends. That also explains why Gregory might know about the mimic for his fantasy of the Afton ending. as Odds are Bonnie bro while making and teaching him in the post it room may have spoken about it in some capacity. In summary: Bonnie Bro (Cassie's dad) is the Mother, Cassie is the son, and Bonnie bro made/brought in Gregory for Cassie (he sang the lullaby) Cassie being the boy in the story, and the monster (mimic) copies the lullaby (Gregory's voice) to lure Cassie in.
@bennetfamily8632
@bennetfamily8632 Ай бұрын
At the end of the 1st Tales of the pizzaplex book there is a short story about the pizzeria under the Mega pizza plex. In this story it tells us of a man named Gill (a fazbear technician) who found a robot and changed its code to rip off the arms of endoskeletons and chuck them into a pile. The thing is it didn't go to plan and the robot went rouge ripping of Gills arms. Someone called Daniel sees this amd runs away running through piles of rubble and circus mascots. Then he shouts over to the cement workers seal the door and then the story ends. The description of this robot was "It was a tall slender figure the wirring noise was barely heard now over Gills Agonising screams". To me this robot that rips of arms and heads off of endoskeletons, that is tall and slender is the mimic. What does the tall figure from the story chase Daniel through... A tunnel full of circus costumes and piles of rubble. What does the mimic chase Cassie through... A tunnel full of circus costumes and piles of rubble baricaded by cement.. I wonder where the cement came from. Most likely the cement workers that barricaded the door.
@fluffylink
@fluffylink Ай бұрын
Love how he was trying to figure out what the "Freddy drawing" was on the memory game. It's a piñata, you hit a Freddy piñata with a bat.
Ай бұрын
Don't translate... भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्ग मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु.. ..
@duck_of_judgement
@duck_of_judgement Ай бұрын
Dude, i fr started tweaking the moment i saw all these bots
@audreka13
@audreka13 Ай бұрын
Was about to comment this lol
@samueltorres9417
@samueltorres9417 Ай бұрын
i literally figured it out and started yelling at mat through my screen hoping he’d hear me 😂
@Ourplecanary
@Ourplecanary Ай бұрын
I was aboutta comment this 😂
@mage1439
@mage1439 Ай бұрын
I love how Matt's like, "I'm not going to let a little thing like not having any responsibility to know about FNAF going forward to keep me from theorizing about it."
@keelyrey64
@keelyrey64 Ай бұрын
The post it note that says “this is my home. Leave” seems that there was somebody there before the 2nd individual arrived. Be it any of the 3: Gregory, Vanessa/Vanny, mimic, whichever combo you go with. Personally, to me it seems more likely that it’s Vanessa/Vanny & Gregory communicating in the post it room. Maybe Gregory knows of the mimic already & that’s why he is hidden?
@ShadisaSkyline
@ShadisaSkyline Ай бұрын
The “All for you” and “All for me” could be the mimic being told “All for you” and repeating it back, like a parrot or toddlers following phrases, and the “All for me” is the moment the mimic realises and becomes self aware that “you” from someone else means THEM
@ethanskinner6146
@ethanskinner6146 Ай бұрын
Did people forget about the line of Gregory to Cassie about the Mimic being down there for a LONG time. The way Gregory emphasizes Long makes it seems like really Long like fnaf 6 long. Idk, it's just odd.
@YTInsertNameHere
@YTInsertNameHere Ай бұрын
Yea I agree
@Poseidon4862.
@Poseidon4862. Ай бұрын
Plus the M.X.E.S console is linked to the Mimic’s programming. The console itself seems dusty and has an 80’s retro design, meaning that, even if the security nodes were programmed at a later date, the mimic was very likely there for a long time.
@rubylightshow1585
@rubylightshow1585 Ай бұрын
I think a lot of people write off Gregory’s lines at the end of ruin because it’s unclear who is speaking, so they don’t know what to do with that information. It also doesn’t fit cleanly with a theory so they mostly just leave it out. It’s also not clear if that’s even true because there’s a relatively new looking bulldozer that cassie uses to take down the concrete. Whoever locked the mimic down there was also blocking off the tunnels behind it. Those look old too, and the elevator is old, but if it’s been blocked off that long, how did the mimic get the glamrock themed walkie to talk to Cassie in the first place?
@TheDark4light
@TheDark4light Ай бұрын
To be fair, Gregory is 10. A long time is a couple of years. Anything beyond that is "it's positively ancient!"
@Pinkels
@Pinkels Ай бұрын
​@@Poseidon4862.The computer isn't "old" and "ancient" considering it's literally the same one from Parts and Service. If it's new enough to fit in the futuristic Pizzaplex, then there's no reason it couldn't have been installed earlier than you assume. Plus there's always the chance SW just reused an asset.
@Jabamski
@Jabamski Ай бұрын
The truth comes out, Matpat is the Onceler. 😂
@your_cute_
@your_cute_ Ай бұрын
Ikr 😱
@MumboJ
@MumboJ Ай бұрын
It's so in-character that MatPat spent the extra time and effort decoding a secret message, fully expecting to deep dive into a new ARG, but instead it tells him specifically to "get some sleep lol"
@ExodaCrown
@ExodaCrown Ай бұрын
I would argue that Gregory never frees Vanessa in the princess quest ending, because of the 4th princess game and she is covered in purple during the the princess quest ending.
@Triple8_Extras
@Triple8_Extras Ай бұрын
I love the irony of John leaving Mat a nice message and that he should get some rest, but made it so Mat had to put in a bit of work so he could decode it xD Also with the Burntrap ending being something that Gregory made up, and the comic about it was made AFTER he had encountered the Mimic, it would explain why they're like another form of Springtrap. Similarly to how Freddy described Vanny when you find her hideout in Fazerblast ("It's like Vanessa, and Bunny."), Gregory has created the Burntrap comic the same way. It's like he took Vanny and the Mimic but combined them as one thing, a creepy robot in a bunny suit. Especially since Vanny doesn't have any visible appearance in that ending. When it comes to Vanessa and Gregory against the Mimic I think it could play out like this: Vanessa (under Glitchtrap's control) is working on the Mimic, and at some point Gregory falls victim to their control too. But somehow he breaks free of that control not long before the gameplay of Security Breach (Explaining his stutter while telling Freddy his name, and his fear of Vanessa, since his head would be a bit fuzzy and a vague memory of Vanessa being 'evil' would be there). Then when Gregory releases Vanessa from Glitchtrap's influence, they lock the Mimic away, since she'd have more knowledge on the reason it's in that location (trying to continue Afton's legacy). But Gregory leaves some stuff behind, including the Freddy walkie-talkie, which the Mimic uses to, well...mimic his voice and lure in Cassie. My brain has melted while typing this :p
@BrielleHobbit
@BrielleHobbit Ай бұрын
i think he meant the notes where Mimic and Vanessa are "talking through the notes is like the Mimic responding with notes to what Vanessa is saying, like an AAC or when people train pets to use speech buttons
@snowzombie5034
@snowzombie5034 Ай бұрын
This is what I was thinking too
@starace4031
@starace4031 Ай бұрын
At 19:45 I think the 2 images of kids ('the baby and baby') might represent growing up. For instance the kid on the left looks like a newborn/baby whereas the kid on the right looks more like a toddler (as they are able to sit up on their own whereas the other kid is wrapped in a blanket). So it might be teaching the endos about aging/different ages of children. I don't know but that's my best guess as they seem like they are slightly different ages.
@user-ck3hm7xz7t
@user-ck3hm7xz7t Ай бұрын
mat pat went Lorax villain mode how bad can he possibly be that is truly what he is doing in his retirement mat pat is fashion god
@oscarmarek7746
@oscarmarek7746 Ай бұрын
I just realized his red jacket is still hanging on the hook behind the couch… 😢😢😢
@Moonlight_0419
@Moonlight_0419 Ай бұрын
Nah bruh why are you doing this to me 😢😢😢
@CassiusStelar
@CassiusStelar Ай бұрын
​@@UTTPOfficerRonaldoCR7my guy, you are just a troll. You are no better than the people you are pretending to be against. Stay in your place, child.
@zubiayasar1945
@zubiayasar1945 Ай бұрын
​@@UTTPOfficerRonaldoCR7Hey be a bot you feel unimportant and worthless that away dont act like a real person
@epicj103
@epicj103 Ай бұрын
55:58 This conversation about the boy coming to let the monster in the Candy Cadet story out could be talking about the walkie talkie that Gregory left behind that the mimic used to lure Cassie into the basement in the first place, because it was revealed that he left his backpack down there where the mimic was sealed. Idk I just was trying to think of any reason for how the analogy could fit better and not just drive us crazy thinking in circles lol
@virtualboo5139
@virtualboo5139 Ай бұрын
Not only that, the real Gregory try to contact you throughout (we know because of the staff bot easter egg) but only manage once you get underground. That to me in imply that he is trap underground too.
@IronKnuckle9
@IronKnuckle9 Ай бұрын
I think the Candy Cadet story breaks down like this: the Monster is the Mimic, the Mother is Bonnie-Bro, the Boy is Cassie, and the Lullaby is Gregory. Bonnie-Bro traps the Mimic. Then he builds Gregory to comfort his daughter (who we learn during the Roxy section has very few friends). He uses the post-it note room to train up Gregory, so he can go to her party at the Pizza Plex (which we know he was the only one to show up). The Mimic starts to listen in on these training sessions, and learns how to copy him. Then he lures Cassie down to the basement to free him. Looking at it this way, Gregory's rabbit links in the books aren't to Glitchtrap, they're to Bonnie. His creator's favorite mascot.
@CamKoudo
@CamKoudo Ай бұрын
Awww John hiding a message specifically for Mat in his video, knowing that Mat would not only react to it but solve the code is too sweet!
@soph_sketxhes
@soph_sketxhes Ай бұрын
52:45 My first thought about Vanny/Vanessa would be called 'the mother' is a reference for her raising and teaching the mimic.
@bagodrago
@bagodrago Ай бұрын
Then why would Gregory be the son? 🤔
@soph_sketxhes
@soph_sketxhes Ай бұрын
@@bagodrago Well I had interpret Candy Cadets story as explaining the relationship that the Mimic shares with Vanessa and Gregory. So Vanessa/Vanny the mother, because she taught the Mimic And Gregory if we go by the theory that Gregory is the "robot crying child" and the mimic having the conscious of Afton Gregory would be seen as the son in this case. This is just first impressions so take with a grain of salt.
@gianabell827
@gianabell827 Ай бұрын
@@soph_sketxhesisn’t gregory on his own? so couldn’t vanessa technically be his mother figure as they escaped together and she probably takes care of him too?
@sal_4573
@sal_4573 Ай бұрын
@@bagodragocandy cadet’s exact words were “a mother and a little boy” gregory was never referred to as her son.
@bagodrago
@bagodrago Ай бұрын
@@sal_4573 Good call out, didn't realize it made that distinction
@lunamelody2025
@lunamelody2025 Ай бұрын
I think the bat with freddy is the freddy is a pinata. Plus, the mimic being a v1 endo makes sense, especially since he and The Daycare Attendant are the only 2 that looked more older than the bunch. The Glamrocks look more higher tech and designed that the others, especially the hands.
@lunamelody2025
@lunamelody2025 Ай бұрын
@@UTTPOfficerRonaldoCR7 Yeah, welcome to the block list.
@shadowinsaan34
@shadowinsaan34 Ай бұрын
@@lunamelody2025 Don't reply to them Just report these trash and move on
@GendoRokabundi
@GendoRokabundi Ай бұрын
Yeah, I was also thinking piñata.
@nathanielreik6617
@nathanielreik6617 Ай бұрын
Theory about the Ruin Candy Cadet story: it says just the mother captured the monster in the basement without the boy, so whatever the mother is captured the mimic by itself. Maybe the mother isn't just Vanessa but Vanessa and Gregory both who captured the monster which then mimicked Gregory to lure Cassie. The idea that Gregory is at least part of the mother could also be that the lullaby comforts the boy and Gregory was a close friend to Cassie and "comforted" her so then the "monster" mimics the "lullaby" could be the mimic imitating Gregory to trick Cassie.
@definitely_not_a_beetle
@definitely_not_a_beetle Ай бұрын
I think that in the candy cadet story, when it refers to a mother locking the mimic in the basement, it might be reffering to cassy's dad and possibly gregory locking up the mimic, and then the little boy getting tricked is cassy later that game. They've been genderswapped lol. It explains the parental analogy pretty well in mind.
@definitely_not_a_beetle
@definitely_not_a_beetle Ай бұрын
Nvm just watched the next 10 seconds and he literally says that my bad
@MetallicMonkey
@MetallicMonkey Ай бұрын
MatPat in 2024 be like: *THE MIMICCCCCCCCCC* Edit: How?
@noran.13
@noran.13 Ай бұрын
real
@someframes
@someframes Ай бұрын
@@UTTPOfficerRonaldoCR7he’s back lol
@Cosmo-Mocha
@Cosmo-Mocha Ай бұрын
@@someframeshe (I) always come back
@GreatestNate888
@GreatestNate888 Ай бұрын
@@someframesilr
@Lovelottie678
@Lovelottie678 Ай бұрын
​@@UTTPOfficerRonaldoCR7so he's actually still on the channel and I will miss him u hater that doesn't have a life and I mind as well just report u for bullying ppl that u don't even know and plus they didn't do anything to u,ur just jealous that ur not as good as mat pat,don't have a good day and ur not welcome
@almostaliceee
@almostaliceee Ай бұрын
Possible explanation of the candy cadet story to show its Vanny and Gregory: The story refers to a mother and a little boy. Point 1: if the little boy was her son, they’d call him that so they aren’t related. Point 2: a possible interpretation is that the mother is that of the monster and therefore backing up John’s claim on Vanny being the one talking to the mimic. Point 3: the little boy opening the door could be explained that it’s Gregory’s voice that is used to convince Cassie to open the door.
@TheScholar13
@TheScholar13 Ай бұрын
54:18 / 1:12:50 Relating to the Candy cadet story. The Mother and daughter are an inverse to Father an daughters Meaning Cassidy's dad locked the mimic, Cassidy then was lulled by the fake mimicry and almost set it free. The Candy cadet is literarily describing the event of ruin.
@JonJoLen
@JonJoLen Ай бұрын
Did you ever react to John’s Help Wanted 2 theory? It’s really good and I’m sure we’d love to see what you think!
@BlueLighting_08
@BlueLighting_08 Ай бұрын
8:54 Reminder we could also draw to sound in fnaf 3 Springtrap, And in Fnaf Simulator all animatronic in the night.
@Electro-rj1sv
@Electro-rj1sv Ай бұрын
That could connect the mimic and springtrap, but also, I think we should mention it's a kid laughing that draws afton.
@jamilquinones2499
@jamilquinones2499 Ай бұрын
Awe a sweet message from John bc he knew matt was gonna watch and react. That’s so sweet ❤
@mysterychestreopened1280
@mysterychestreopened1280 Ай бұрын
You know what’s interesting about the candy cadet story? What if the “mother and little boy” part isn’t exactly accurate? It really seems like cassy is the little boy in this scenario. Cassy(little boy) was lured into opening the basement from the song(cries of help from “Greggory”) and releasing the mimic(monster).
@-.Glitch.-
@-.Glitch.- Ай бұрын
i love that we get to see matpat from time to time
@MonalgtGames
@MonalgtGames Ай бұрын
Matpat becoming the once-ler from the Lorax, and telling old histories to the new generaitons. How baaaad, can he be?, hes just making a Theory. How baaad, can he be?
@MonalgtGames
@MonalgtGames Ай бұрын
@@UTTPOfficerRonaldoCR7 xd
@MonalgtGames
@MonalgtGames Ай бұрын
@@UTTPOfficerRonaldoCR7 xd2
@MonalgtGames
@MonalgtGames Ай бұрын
@@UTTPOfficerRonaldoCR7 xd?
@MonalgtGames
@MonalgtGames Ай бұрын
@@UTTPOfficerRonaldoCR7 xd???
@KohakuAmber22
@KohakuAmber22 Ай бұрын
Ryetoast theory I think you should read Matpat. GGY does not equal Gregory, same body, but not the same person. GGY is Gregory with the Glitchtrap/Mimic virus, just like Vanny is Vanessa with the Glitchtrap/Mimic virus. Gregory broke free at the start of Security Breach. He had programmed Freddy to protect him, similar to in the GGY book. When the Glitchtrap/Mimic virus tried to command Freddy to harm Gregory it conflicted with his programming to protect him. This caused the meltdown we saw at the beginning of Security Breach causing him to boot in safe mode with neither set of programming in place. It's thought that GGY was playing the arcade machines and getting high scores and stumbled upon the Balloon Boy arcade and found the glitch. The glitch currently doesn't do anything, but what if the reason is because solving the glitch was what first freed Gregory, he freed himself. As for your question about Burntrap being the Mimic, the problem with calling Burntrap completely fake like the rest of the comics is we know that the Blob is real. Cassie saw it in Ruin. So if the Blob is real then why would the other big bad from the same comic not also be real? Perhaps the events of the comic aren't real, but the characters are? Hard to say.
@scottcockton
@scottcockton Ай бұрын
Glitch trap ain’t mimic he afton burn trap glitch trap possessing mimic with scrap trap remains or is just rebuilt scrap trap
@KohakuAmber22
@KohakuAmber22 Ай бұрын
@@scottcockton Some people think that Glitchtrap isn't Afton, but the second Mimic from the books that wasn't physical (the one in the tree in the pizzaplex). They believe that in the games it either watched an "Afton highlight reel" of everything bad that he did in the mini games in Help Wanted or that the virus was infected with Afton's agony, but probably not his remnant, and that's why it seems obsessed with Afton. Either way it results in a similar entity that could then possess a physical body. Was that body a random endo or the physical Mimic that Vanessa tried to mix with Afton's remains and fix up with other endo parts? No one knows. Either way it's just a theory and just as valid as Glitchtrap actually being Afton's remnant scanned from the chip in Scraptrap into Help Wanted. We don't have enough evidence to say either way, thus why I said Glitchtrap/Mimic virus :)
@saraharmstrong2696
@saraharmstrong2696 Ай бұрын
Im so happy u still do gtlive!You may have quit the theory side but we'll always have you,in our hearts,and on out tv screens,god bless u matpat
@herb_rolls3929
@herb_rolls3929 Ай бұрын
I love watching these theory review videos despite the fact that I know nothing about FNAF and this is all complete gibberish to me because MatPat's energy is so likeable and fun to listen to.
@Duggernaut
@Duggernaut Ай бұрын
After all of the trees Matpat has eaten over the years, he has finally achieved his tree form
Ай бұрын
Don't translate... भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्ग मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु.. ..
@AndrewAndBren
@AndrewAndBren Ай бұрын
Okay
@MissCaraMint
@MissCaraMint Ай бұрын
Oh that's good.
@Sciencelover54
@Sciencelover54 Ай бұрын
@@UTTPOfficerRonaldoCR7no one likes you
@srradiance13
@srradiance13 Ай бұрын
Spoilers for 38:28 below (unless they solved it already in the video) edit... they solved it later The code is a caesar cipher with a shift of 7 that translates to: "Matt, thank you for everything you've done for this community. Please finally get some sleep lol. Don't be afraid to come back for a new FNAF game. I'll miss you buddy. - John"
@dantez.6462
@dantez.6462 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much Ash, first thing I thought when seeing Mat was the onceleer
@Kirkyeehee
@Kirkyeehee Ай бұрын
The videos where Mat Pat Reacts to other phenap theories is probably some of my favorite content on this channel. Fascinating just watching him try to think back and logic his way through this and try to give A counter argument when something isn't 100 percent clear. When Matt eventually gives this channel up as well that's when I will truly be sad because he still Contributes a lot to the FNAF lore and at the end of the day, theatrics aside, you can tell that he does like doing this sort of thing.
@VioletBVK
@VioletBVK Ай бұрын
53:30 this sounds pretty straightforward tbh (fnaf sb Gregory is talking to Freddy the entire night) (the mimic listens to Gregory’s voice so he can MIMIC it) (so when Cassie gets to the place she lets the mimic out because it sounds like Gregory) just how the kid let the monster out because it sounded like his mother
@goldfishgallant1432
@goldfishgallant1432 Ай бұрын
But to me there's no compelling parallel with the mother (Gregory) and the child (Cassie) living together in the woods right? The mother and child were together but we never see Gregory and Cassie together. Well except in that one ruin hologram I guess
@FantasticFreya-fn8si
@FantasticFreya-fn8si Ай бұрын
@@goldfishgallant1432 Well, maybe in the next fnaf iterations we will see glimpses of them together
@robloxgod2396
@robloxgod2396 Ай бұрын
Matpat on march ninth: I’m leaving!!!!!! GT live: nuh uh
@vitorcastro9092
@vitorcastro9092 Ай бұрын
And we love it! lol
@Snowball-12
@Snowball-12 Ай бұрын
Not sure if ya know, but he’s only staying at least for the summer, they just need to figure out what the future will be for the channel
@Certified_confederated_hater
@Certified_confederated_hater Ай бұрын
He came back. He always does.
@Ghostvertigo
@Ghostvertigo Ай бұрын
​I know I wish he'd just keep doing Gtlive but sadly that's not gonna be the case. Chances are Gtlive will retire​ IMO@@Snowball-12
@smartagent99
@smartagent99 Ай бұрын
MatPat: "I always come back." @@Certified_confederated_hater
@animeotaku647
@animeotaku647 Ай бұрын
That's supposed to be a pinata, henceforth why the other card is a bat. 19:48
@hmm6261
@hmm6261 Ай бұрын
53:37 whats interesting is that candy cadet says that it copies the "mother's lullaby" and connects it to Gregory's voice (at least, thats what i believe this was talking about as opposed to vannessa and gregory). i may be looking too deep into it, but i think that's either a really good or really ironic analogy. Gregory was the one that comforted Cassie at her birthday party when no one showed up, much like a lullaby comforts a child. however, he also betrays her and sends her hurdling down an elevator shaft--quite the opposite of comforting.
@colderratic5681
@colderratic5681 Ай бұрын
The message from John to MatPat was really sweet. So happy I’ve been able to witness the passing of the torch between the two, especially considering John was a fan just like all of us.
@gabehc8689
@gabehc8689 Ай бұрын
Where is it?
Ай бұрын
Don't translate... भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्ग मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु.. ..
@colderratic5681
@colderratic5681 Ай бұрын
@@gabehc868938:33
@colderratic5681
@colderratic5681 Ай бұрын
@@gabehc8689 38:33
@Poseidon4862.
@Poseidon4862. Ай бұрын
Taking the books aside, I’ve had a theory about the Mimic’s origins for a really long time. I don’t know if it’s true, but I’d at least like to hear other people talk about it. In FNAF 4, William Afton is presumed to be the one telling his son “I will put you back together”. Despite that, we never see him actually try it. At the same time, we have the mimic, a copycat killer that, when broken and given agony by its creator, followed in Afton’s footsteps specifically. We know that William Afton is obsessed with control, as well as bringing back his dead kids, as seen with Baby. Lastly, we can infer that the Mimic, and the AI that seems to stem from it, specifically focus on recreating the Aftons, as seen in the Post-it Room in the Pizzaplex sewers. What if William Afton built the Mimic? It would certainly be in character for him to do so, and the mimic being linked to William so much would make a lot more sense. William could have built the underground lab and M.X.E.S console that we see under the FNAF 6 location (which we’ve been theorizing could have previously been Fredbear’s Family Diner) at a time when FFD was still open, shortly after the crying child’s death. To that extent, the mimic lab would have been where William first experimented with subterranean locations, AI programming, and the scooper, all things he would later use for Circus Baby’s Pizza World. The scene between Edwin and the mimic, where the mimic is shown holding the Tiger plushie and causes Edwin to break the machine in anger, could have easily happened between William and the mimic too. I mean, the plushie could have been the Fredbear plush that the crying child was known to hold, and that William evident kept with him all the way up to the building of Circus Baby’s rentals. In turn, William breaking the mimic out of anger produces two monsters: one that began his destruction of life with a seemingly emotionless robot, and one that, after infused with those same murderous thoughts through agony, would lead a similar legacy long after the first monster’s death. Even after William was trapped in purgatory, the mimic promised that he would always come back, through a being that reflected his own violent nature. But wait, there’s more! I and a lot of other people have been suspecting that our newest protagonist Jeremy was one of the bullies involved in the Bite of 83, the same event that would lead to the mimic’s creation. Under this theory, our current protagonist and antagonist are connected by a common event, which could easily lead to stronger stories possibilities later down the line (assuming we see more Jeremy, it’s currently up in the air in that regard). But perhaps the most interesting detail is one that’s been staring us in the face all along. When Cassie first meets the mimic in its true form, she asks “who are you?”. The mimic simply repeats “I’m Gregory”. Sure, this line is to build up suspense and has an obvious role in the story. But perhaps there’s something more to that line. Gregory as a character has been presented as a mirror of the crying child, at least on a symbolic level as evident with the hillside images in the Princess Quest and Burntrap endings (I’m leaving the robot Gregory discussion out of this one). What if, through their shared connection to the crying child, Gregory and the mimic had a lot more in common than we thought. What if the mimic really meant it when it said “I’m Gregory”? Please, if anybody sees this, feel free to respond to this post. I really just want more people to think about this, because I have the feeling it might change where we see FNAF’s story heading in the future.
@tg0r
@tg0r Ай бұрын
I really like this theory ngl
@evantiel727
@evantiel727 Ай бұрын
Oohh this theory actually makes a lot of sense!
@gaminganimators7000
@gaminganimators7000 Ай бұрын
Which makes sense because William can't make robot kids because he can't love unlike Henry who could
@AviaRayne2
@AviaRayne2 Ай бұрын
I really like this! I don't have much to add on the spot, but I might mull over this when I get a chance and get stuck down the fnaf rabbit hole again!
@itsaizen1170
@itsaizen1170 Ай бұрын
i love just putting one of theese vidoes on and let it play in teh background
@anica7438
@anica7438 Ай бұрын
Matpat just chilling in GTLive revisiting and making new fun theories is just so nice to see- ❤
@yellowdevil9195
@yellowdevil9195 Ай бұрын
19:48 Matty boy It's a piñata the thing in birthdays you hit with a bat without getting in trouble
@ZAWMBITE
@ZAWMBITE Ай бұрын
i love how he's still able to have fun with fnaf even in retirement :)
@Dark_0280
@Dark_0280 Ай бұрын
​@@UTTPOfficerRonaldoCR7lil bro u sucks
@jaydapugpug1626
@jaydapugpug1626 Ай бұрын
This is definitely my favourite of johns theory’s in makes sense, it’s logical, it don’t have leaps of logic or sense to the narrative (Gregory being robot and patient 46), I love it and is now my head cannon
@PicoriPi
@PicoriPi Ай бұрын
Cassidy is the child who opened the basement lured by the voice of Gregory. Did Bonnie Bro trap the mimic? Gregory is the lullaby? Did Bonnie Bro create Gregory as a way to comfort his lonely daughter?
@F1ZZUP
@F1ZZUP Ай бұрын
You absolutely HAVE TO see the new welcome home update!!! There’s so much more media !
@Ry.Loves.Cartoons.
@Ry.Loves.Cartoons. Ай бұрын
Someone needs to make Matt dressed as the Oncler in his fluffy coat
@idalindberg6539
@idalindberg6539 Ай бұрын
I love granpat being this old wise man that spreads his wisedom to Fuhnaff and us
@Shahriar_M04
@Shahriar_M04 Ай бұрын
Here's an idea. What if Greg and Vanessa are together what candy cadet calls mother and Cassy is the boy. We know that Cassy knew who Gregory is. Pointing out the the two were friends. But she doesn't know enough about what is going on in the pizzaplex so Vanessa and Gregory thought it would be better if she stayed in the dark. After Gregory releases Vanessa, together they catch mimic (aka the monster) they seal it up and when Cassy asks about the sounds it made they told her that it was fine and switched the topic or something idk. But than the mimic stops screaming and learns to mimic the mothers voice (Gregory and potentially Vanessa) luring Cassy to open the door and free the mimic. If you tell the story this way it makes more sense in my opinion but I'd like to see what others and possibly mat think also.
@pandagaming6524
@pandagaming6524 Ай бұрын
I have a theory that Gregory might be a robot, based on my observations. Every time Gregory encounters Vanny, there seems to be an electric interference, leading me to believe that Vanny might not be a physical person at certain times. Instead, I suspect she could be some kind of VR/AR projection for Gregory. Another detail that supports my theory is when Cassie wears the Vanny mask, triggering the other bunny to chase her, accompanied by a similar electrical interference effect. I hope Matt notices this observation.
@briandaaranda9735
@briandaaranda9735 Ай бұрын
As a Mexican, the fact that Matt didn't recognize it as a Freddy Piñata was killing me.
@DuckysBurgerPalaceOfficial
@DuckysBurgerPalaceOfficial 22 күн бұрын
Ring around the rosy A pocketful of posies "Clap hands" " Clap hands" We all fall down Ring-a-Ring o'Rosies A Pocket full of Posies "Clap hands" " Clap hands" We all fall Down! Hold my hands And circle around Touch hand, touch hand We all fall down Again, we circle round n round Clap hands, clap hands Touch the ground Ring around the rosy A pocketful of posies "Clap hands" " Clap hands" We all fall down Ring around the rosy A pocketful of posies "Clap hands" " Clap hands" We all fall down
@Jade-kq1rc
@Jade-kq1rc Ай бұрын
I was so sad when he announced retirement cuz we wouldn't get these FuhNaff react videos anymore, but here we are!!! Im so happy!!
@loganschardt2009
@loganschardt2009 Ай бұрын
Hey Matpat, you know about AstralSpiff right? Well he made his own theory on Fnaf SB, it's kinda made for the memes, but it does kinda explain the story in a different point of view.
@Electro-rj1sv
@Electro-rj1sv Ай бұрын
I think he knows who he is. But I do agree he should react to that as well!
@Luisxpro10
@Luisxpro10 Ай бұрын
I’m so glad we still have Matpat live omg.
@TheSuperSnake313
@TheSuperSnake313 Ай бұрын
Watching you get "lost in the sauce" is what we're here for, brother Thanks to you and John for everything you've done to help make FNAF what it is to us all
@gavinjames645
@gavinjames645 Ай бұрын
Here’s what I think. In fnaf graphic novel the twisted ones Charlie is working on a project that involves 2 robot heads, Jessica ask Charlie what she’s programming them to do but Charlie’s states that she’s not programming them rather she’s helping them to learn on their own, that sounds very similar to how the mimic works also if you look at the heads in the graphic novel they do have a somewhat resemblance to the mimic.
@purplepedantry
@purplepedantry Ай бұрын
Well, since Edwin is implied to basically be Henry, it's likely that Charlie learned from her father.
@Pinkels
@Pinkels Ай бұрын
​@@purplepedantryEdwin and Henry aren't the same. Considering that TFTPP are canon and we literally see Edwin and Henry mentioned in the same story. Even if you still don't believe they're canon, the fact they literally co-exist in the same story means he can't just be a metaphor or stand-in
@SW-rd6bg
@SW-rd6bg Ай бұрын
Stormister had a really good FNAF theory which makes a lot of sense to me about the post-it room and cleaning up a lot of the messy lorebits we've been presented.
@skrzat1997
@skrzat1997 Ай бұрын
I think that Candy Cadet's story is about Cassie and her dad who traps the monster in the basement. The boy and the mother are like a daughter and the father with swapped genders. Also the mother went to get some food which in modern times means so much as go to work which Cassie's father did
@matiasr6509
@matiasr6509 Ай бұрын
If the mimic is burntrap and Gregory knew about both of them, then perhaps burntrap is simply what Gregory thought the mimic looked like. Bc if he was possessed by glitchtrap and he's trying to bring afton back, he'd probably think that the robot should look like a deformed bunny or something based on what he already knows about Afton and his current condition. He never saw the mimic until he and Vanessa trapped him in the basement.
@djepp1261
@djepp1261 Ай бұрын
The picture of Freddy that matches the baseball bat is a piñata!
@WeebtasticPrime
@WeebtasticPrime Ай бұрын
Yeah that's what I thought
@Alphasnowbordergirl
@Alphasnowbordergirl Ай бұрын
Glad someone said that lol.
@i3_i9
@i3_i9 Ай бұрын
@@UTTPOfficerRonaldoCR7you don’t have any content 😂
@jamesonmartin4033
@jamesonmartin4033 Ай бұрын
i thought it meant destroy old freddy merch, i dont know why
Ай бұрын
Don't translate... भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्ग मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु.. ..
@CreedBratton905
@CreedBratton905 Ай бұрын
Matpat is still here? LET'S GOOOOO!!!!!
@katmustang7666
@katmustang7666 Ай бұрын
OMG! The hidden message for you is so freaking heartwarming! 🥰
@jennifern1453
@jennifern1453 Ай бұрын
The Matler I didn't know I needed until now
@blankgaming1215
@blankgaming1215 Ай бұрын
One thing that I hope u see is that in the first binary scribble texture, the writing that says "this is my home, leave" is about the same level of handwriting as the 3rd and final texture. Maybe that is vanessa writing to the mimic?
@WinterPains
@WinterPains Ай бұрын
19:57 Thats a Piñata
@va_creative
@va_creative Ай бұрын
I have been sitting here SCREAMING at the TV for 5 minutes, going, "IT'S A PIÑATA!!!!!!!"
@scarakinnie
@scarakinnie Ай бұрын
@@UTTPOfficerRonaldoCR7 i will touch you
@thefredlittle2201
@thefredlittle2201 Ай бұрын
​@@va_creativeI also noticed it's a pinata
@duke7037
@duke7037 Ай бұрын
Recorded in history he misted something
@duke7037
@duke7037 Ай бұрын
​@@UTTPOfficerRonaldoCR7 are you saying it in a bad way or what
@tsukikagenoknight7915
@tsukikagenoknight7915 Ай бұрын
One thing I noticed watching this video: The "This is my home. Leave." Post it note is on the First Generation "sheet". I just realized that we can split the Theory channels into BR (Before Retirement) and AR (After Retirement)
@Sunflower28FNAF
@Sunflower28FNAF Ай бұрын
Love you Matpat!! Love watching you go insane with FNAF yet again ❤
@aidantr
@aidantr Ай бұрын
i think if this theory ends up being true there has to be some narrative where gregory used to be evil but isnt anymore for some reason thats pretty much the main missing link, with that i think this would be a perfect story of what happened
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