Was the Pachamama Idolatry in the Vatican was worse than the Olympics blasphemy?

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@joebollig2689
@joebollig2689 Ай бұрын
Where were all these clerics, now protesting the Olympic blasphemy, when pope Francis was promoting pachamama?
@lesevesel2898
@lesevesel2898 Ай бұрын
THIS.
@robertpatlovany1107
@robertpatlovany1107 Ай бұрын
Like Bishop Barron, worried they'd get cancelled like 2000+ others , like Strickland got cancelled. Barron tried to explain away the Jesus-Judas painting in the wall of the Judas Pope.
@user-fc1ld9ts8u
@user-fc1ld9ts8u Ай бұрын
Better late than never, but better never late.
@SeanMcGuire001
@SeanMcGuire001 Ай бұрын
Where were the clerics? Busy with their love lives.
@joeberkemeier5904
@joeberkemeier5904 Ай бұрын
The pachamama episode looked like pagan worship because that is what it was.
@johncollins8304
@johncollins8304 Ай бұрын
'The Catholic world has been protesting the Olympics...' With the exception of 'Pope' Francis.
@JohnAlbertRigali
@JohnAlbertRigali Ай бұрын
It all depends on how one regards Papa Bergoglio in relation to “the Catholic world” (what I call the “Catholisphere”).
@SkogKniv
@SkogKniv Ай бұрын
Yes it was worse.Taylor Marshall brought this up on his show yesterday again.
@MARYMCGUIRE-tv8je
@MARYMCGUIRE-tv8je Ай бұрын
Exactly, Robert. The Pope never publicly repented for this blasphemy, this worship of a naked false pagan idol and I often thought that's what ushered in the horrific things that happened worldwide afterwards. God allowed all the horror to happen because of the blasphemy and no repentance. We stand in the gap and repent of this abominable blasphemy and pray that the Pope will repent.
@pabloventura5487
@pabloventura5487 Ай бұрын
the pope promoting pacha mama is 100 percent worse the the Olympic blasphemy.
@djq9332
@djq9332 Ай бұрын
Silence = complicity.
@lbd354
@lbd354 Ай бұрын
Are we still seeing the consequences of that awful event?
@thecatholicman
@thecatholicman Ай бұрын
We saw them in 2020
@Cojo910
@Cojo910 Ай бұрын
​@thecatholicman That's when it started. Are we still experiencing the consequences. Yes, there has been no repentance from the perpetrator, so, yes, we are. In fact, the pope has been pretty much doubling and tripling down since then. 😢
@brotherdaniel9415
@brotherdaniel9415 Ай бұрын
Yes
@djq9332
@djq9332 Ай бұрын
@@Cojo910 No. Half a century before. Smoke & crack - PVI.
@Cojo910
@Cojo910 Ай бұрын
@djq9332 True. Would you agree to on going consequences much in need of prayers and reparations?
@PJ-go9jw
@PJ-go9jw Ай бұрын
With pachamama the Pope was present, said nothing and therefore the conclusion is that he is complicit. The Pope had another chance and demonstrate to the world that he was an overt defender of the Faith by condemning the blasphemous depiction of Jesus and the Eucharist as well as other Satanic/Masonic scenes but he has said nothing and once again his silence condemns him as complicit. It is a matter of trying to defend the indefensible no matter how many excuses you give, how many false trails you go down. See what is in front of you, take of your rose-tinted glasses!
@pennsyltuckyreb9800
@pennsyltuckyreb9800 Ай бұрын
Oh yeah, for sure. You expect displays of vulgar ridicule from heathens. That's their default state. You don't expect blasphemous idol worship from the "Pope" himself!
@mariaesmeralda2452
@mariaesmeralda2452 Ай бұрын
Yes, the Pachamama idolatry in the Vatican was worse. I still shudder when seeing a picture of it..
@silviaibarra6771
@silviaibarra6771 Ай бұрын
I agree!
@nicholasosb8015
@nicholasosb8015 Ай бұрын
I take comfort that within France is the Solemes congregation of Benedictine monks. Emanating from them are the beams of intense light reaching Heaven with prayer and devout praise.
@longbowman2408
@longbowman2408 Ай бұрын
Dear Robert, borgoglias silence over the olympics was deafening, this pachahama outrage shows the man up for what he actually is, a wef stooge. God Bless you I appreciate your good work.
@laurelannemchugh4139
@laurelannemchugh4139 Ай бұрын
I totally agree. God bless you for your witness. 🙏🙏🙏
@dermotquigley356
@dermotquigley356 Ай бұрын
The Catechism of the Council of Trent, when discussing the first commandment teaches: " God's majesty is seriously outraged by worshipping idols and images as God. Or By believing that idols possess any Divinity entitling them to our worship. It is blasphemous to pray to idols." Pope Francis or one of his Successors MUST undo the Pachapapa worship in the Vatican. A malign force came into the Church as a result of this. The Blasphemous Parody of the last supper perpetrated at the Olympics in Paris, was a direct attack on the Sacrifice of Calvary which is the Sacrifice of the Holy Mass. This, together with all of the Heresy emanating from Rome, will draw down Divine Wrath. Pope Francis on Italian TV, at the very least undermined the Dogmatic teaching of all his predecessors on Hell. Belief in a non empty Hell is not an entry requirement.
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@johnseaberg5028
@johnseaberg5028 Ай бұрын
The pagan event was a turning point for me after somewhat ignoring some of Frances’ past proclamations and then the same se. blessing decree was the door slammer. Vigano was right about Frances and Robert it was a mistake for you to chastise him as demonic
@djq9332
@djq9332 Ай бұрын
Correct and he makes them just as we all do. God bless
@robbiej2749
@robbiej2749 Ай бұрын
Robert, if I remember correctly the pachamamma 'incident' took place on October 4th 2019. Some weeks later in December of that year COVID-19 came to be. Things started to go downhill fast after that. In Singapore where I live all churches were closed on February 16th 2020 - and remained closed till late July that year. Are the two related or was it pure coincidence? I wonder 🤔
@thecatholicman
@thecatholicman Ай бұрын
It wasn’t coincidence at all. Nothing good came from that incident in the Vatican. The Amazon synod was confusing and remains so
@user-ub2nl6dv8m
@user-ub2nl6dv8m Ай бұрын
Pachmanna was thrown into the Tiber
@jameswatson9641
@jameswatson9641 Ай бұрын
It is indeed sad Robert, and I agree fully with the points you're making on this topic. Whatever it is with the times in which we live, leadership is frightfully absent and its very noticeable.
@drenamir1647
@drenamir1647 Ай бұрын
Both are equally awful. Bergoglio -the pope was present at the worship of the pachamama: and Bergoglio did not condemn the blasphemous introduction to the OG, so he agrees with it.
@jean-michellavoie1889
@jean-michellavoie1889 Ай бұрын
One thing that strikes me about the photo of the Pachamama "incident" is that such reverent worship, prostrating like this, is actively discouraged in the Church today. This was not only blasphemy, as in "we place Pachamama on par with Christ", but rather, "Pachamama is higher than Christ". Lex orandi and all that.
@jjcm3135
@jjcm3135 Ай бұрын
It has defined the Pope Francis papacy. It revealed him. It revealed many prelates and orders too.
@tigger-cm6zh
@tigger-cm6zh Ай бұрын
Well said Robert, and i agree with everything you said, God bless you 🙏
@JaniceGill-fp1fn
@JaniceGill-fp1fn Ай бұрын
This is when you have weak priests That don’t stand up for there true faith love of God comes first
@michaelamclarnon9270
@michaelamclarnon9270 Ай бұрын
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@seamusweber8298
@seamusweber8298 Ай бұрын
Good podcast. Fully agree with your points here. However both the Pachamama depiction at the Vatican and what was depicted at Paris, are despicable. bergoglio also insisted on displaying a statue of heretic Martin Luther at the Vatican, as well
@debrakeogh
@debrakeogh Ай бұрын
Yes you are right! We can expect idolatry from people outside of the Church but it is much more grave when it is within the Church.
@dorasamo2462
@dorasamo2462 Ай бұрын
True...we were still a sleep back than...😢 but now we are more awake and we let GOD working in us. Thank you GOD Jesus Christ.
@leojmullins
@leojmullins Ай бұрын
Bergolio's response to the olympic opening ceremony is very telling...
@carljoseph6185
@carljoseph6185 Ай бұрын
Amen to that. I would like to see our Church leaders to stand for our faith and not create more confusion.
@Butterfly-if1qs
@Butterfly-if1qs Ай бұрын
Thank you for putting this out and saying what you did.
@MaaFreddy
@MaaFreddy Ай бұрын
I would like to add maybe the cup is overflowing and this is why the reaction is stronger than it may have been before the Pachamama etc episodes . In addition the French ´ceremony’ is actually much more than a mocking of the last supper as it involves some sort of worship element, barge crossing the Styx , orgies , gory celebration of the revolutionary Terror , the white knight , returning to the golden calf , throwing into the fire etc . So there are many layers to it .
@paddyearly
@paddyearly Ай бұрын
Nothing but confusion from this Papacy😭 Our earthly Church leaders are in the majority a bunch of craven wimps who seem to have little supernatural faith😭 This lack of leadership has intensified since the ‘60’s especially the refusal to uphold Catholic teaching on human sexuality as contained in Humanae Vitea😭 Things in the world are a total mess because the earthly Church leaders refuse to stand for the truth of God😭 A great chastisement is coming😭
@yankees4551
@yankees4551 Ай бұрын
Amazing, what a fight. May Jesus protect you all.
@sekhem313
@sekhem313 Ай бұрын
There is a special GIFT that will be a forever gem in my head. There is a photo taken in France after the 0lympic nut job opening. The whole of Paris was completely blackened out with one exception. At the top point of Paris The Sacre - Coeur Basilica was shining brightly in the photo. No human explanation of the total darkness and the light has ever been provided. On the other side of the bottom is pachapapa joining |mams praying to what is defined in the q0ran as "the deceiver" & who is in record endorsing 'face punching' defined by sh.aria |aw as the response to heresy.
@user-be2jq9ry7y
@user-be2jq9ry7y Ай бұрын
Yes it was worse, Lord have mercy ✝️
@michellemcdermott2026
@michellemcdermott2026 Ай бұрын
Covid came right after Pachamama
@M5guitar1
@M5guitar1 Ай бұрын
Of course the Vatican worship of pagan idols was much worse, because the pope should have put a stop to it while the rest of the bishops silently gave their consent. The entire world was punished soon after that.
@ruthmusante8726
@ruthmusante8726 Ай бұрын
yes you are right
@paddybuckley4519
@paddybuckley4519 Ай бұрын
I agree with this, this is a very good point, and I think some of these consequences, particularly the removal of the Eucharist during covid was quite possibly a chastisement for the church linked to this. However, I think that the experience of the suffering by the faithful of what happened during covid has galvanised the faithful to some extent (although not yet enough maybe). I think more ppl are inclined to stand up now rather than the passivity in resisting the enforced church closures that was very prevalent during covid. Would we have seen the same reaction from as many Catholics had that not happened? Some of it, yes, but all of it? And we know that all things work together for good for those who love God, who are called according to His purpose'. Romans 8:28
@djq9332
@djq9332 Ай бұрын
Ape of the church increasingly coming to view post council church. Seeing it, hearing it & feeling it.
@simonewilliams7224
@simonewilliams7224 Ай бұрын
Yes it was worse, it was done by our Pope and high ranking Vatican Curia etc. and he still has the statue of Martin Luther put out in plain view. For our Pope why not a statue of St. Francis of Assisi, or a stature of St.Michael the Archangel, or St.Benedict or one of our newer Saints Padre Pio. He nor any one in the Curia can hardly say the Names of the Trinity out loud.
@FabianDenial
@FabianDenial Ай бұрын
Totally agree with you on this Robert. But how would you respond to some saying the Pachamama event was not what it seemed to be?
@thecatholicman
@thecatholicman Ай бұрын
The mental gymnastics that the Vatican tried to do were confusing. We don’t as catholics prostrate ourselves and circle objects like this. The Vatican should have known better to avoid confusion.
@artifexdei3671
@artifexdei3671 Ай бұрын
The Franciscan bowing down to Pachamama is a sign in itself and the pope presiding over this ceremony adds to the idiocy of this pontificate. After this Covid came. Let's see what comes after Paris mockery.
@seansheehy6725
@seansheehy6725 Ай бұрын
Probably because they are afraid to confront the Pope even what it is for the good of the church. St. Paul confronted Peter when it was the good of Jesus' Church.
@robertpatlovany1107
@robertpatlovany1107 Ай бұрын
... and when Pope Peter made his shepherd's decision about unnecessary circumcision, St. Paul and all the rest recognized the primacy Pope Peter.
@stephenlight647
@stephenlight647 Ай бұрын
The major theme of the Francis Pontificate is confusion. It’s the sort of thing an academic loves. The entertaining consideration of alternative views and realities. Well, that might be fine within certain confines in an advanced Jesuit Seminary. Maybe. But it sure is an awful fault in a Pope. And the fruits of those kind of flights of fancy is here for all to see. It’s a tragedy. It’s also why a Jesuit Pontificate is always a mistake…pray for the Church. Thank you for your videos, I find them all very inspirational.
@Maria-lg8zq
@Maria-lg8zq Ай бұрын
Hi, Robert, do you still remember last year World youth day 2023? Dj priest? So who allowed that?
@sumeshjoseph2471
@sumeshjoseph2471 Ай бұрын
Pope francis must resign
@patcandelora8496
@patcandelora8496 Ай бұрын
Pachamama was done by people who should know better.
@sheiladumigan451
@sheiladumigan451 Ай бұрын
How did all this come about i wonder...who suggested bringing this statue into the Vatican first day?
@user-jf5vk5rn3u
@user-jf5vk5rn3u Ай бұрын
The Pachamama idolatry took place in the Vatican Gardens near St Peter! The leadership there and now at the Olympics are on par with one another as I see it. Lord, have mercy...
@robertpatlovany1107
@robertpatlovany1107 Ай бұрын
... and it took place indoors over the tomb of Peter, too.
@samwise8309
@samwise8309 Ай бұрын
Robert, you would have "no problem" if the statue of a naked woman was Mary?!!! I think you might want to clarify your statement there.
@johncollins8304
@johncollins8304 Ай бұрын
"We've allowed.." Huh? "We"?? You mean the generals -- the bishops -- allowed.
@taproot381
@taproot381 Ай бұрын
These organisations are just worshipping their god of this world as they always have done. Let them go their merry way and don’t get distracted by their shenanigans.
@thetruthbrigade007
@thetruthbrigade007 Ай бұрын
God bless Pope Francis! May our Lord grant him long life, good health and May those who seek to persecute the successor of Peter be harshly dealt with so they may repent of their pride and slander
@joseph_mta5840
@joseph_mta5840 Ай бұрын
Watch Michael Loftons videos. It wasn’t idolatry or pachamama. .
@thecatholicman
@thecatholicman Ай бұрын
Nice try…
@johncollins8304
@johncollins8304 Ай бұрын
"Our leaders".. We don't have leaders.
@spykezspykez7001
@spykezspykez7001 Ай бұрын
I think so.
@arlenesigurdson6347
@arlenesigurdson6347 Ай бұрын
Pochamma worse then Olympics as the pope and clergy put that on not some Jewish trans
@sheiladumigan451
@sheiladumigan451 Ай бұрын
Jesus Jesus Jesus 🙏❤️
@martingomel1611
@martingomel1611 Ай бұрын
The Olympic scene depicted the Feast of Dionysus, the Greek god of decadence. The resemblance to DeVinci's painting was an unfortunate coincidence. Certainly the hypersexuality and trans aspects caused offence, but the artist had explained his work and apologised for the offence caused. It was a pagan ceremony more than a blasphemy against the Holy Eucharist. There are far more serious assaults on the faith to worry about than this sordid side show.
@robertpatlovany1107
@robertpatlovany1107 Ай бұрын
There are no coincidences. The "resemblance to DeVinci's painting was" BY DESIGN. The "Feast of Dionysus" excuse does not hold true, as there are ZERO artworks of the Feast to match the Olympics better than Da Vinci's work. "There are far more serious assaults on the faith to worry about than this sordid side show." REALLY??? NAME ONE!!! How can a blasphemy contrary to the first 3 of 10 Commandments be deprecated by a fact-free ipsi dixit fallacy of logic assertion?
@martingomel1611
@martingomel1611 Ай бұрын
Bishop Casey for example? Another vile desecration of the Faith. We don't need to invent offence, it's rife among the clergy.
@martingomel1611
@martingomel1611 Ай бұрын
​@@robertpatlovany1107 The painting that the artist claims to have parodied is The Feast of the Gods, by Jan van Bijlert from 1635.
@Thomas-fs5wo
@Thomas-fs5wo Ай бұрын
It wasnt idolatry at the vatican- stop believing the lying liberal press and Taylor Marshal. You are not helping Christ and his church with this
@EpoRose1
@EpoRose1 Ай бұрын
Please stop gaslighting. Mary would never be depicted naked with blood. Vatican spokesperson confirmed at the time “no one said it was the Blessed Virgin Mary. Who said it was the blessed Virgin Mary?” I saw it with my own eyes. I didn’t need anyone to “convince” me.
@robertpatlovany1107
@robertpatlovany1107 Ай бұрын
There's a reason Taylor Marshall has 1 million followers--and you have none--not even a thumbs up. You putting Taylor Marshal in the same sentence with "lying liberal press" self identifies you a categorically incoherent.
@Thomas-fs5wo
@Thomas-fs5wo Ай бұрын
@@robertpatlovany1107 the illogical and ludicrous stance of saying THIS is the true church of Christ but…. We cant even get the pope right lol And nobody said anything was amiss at Francis’s election. You need to read more especially the story of the boy who cried wolf.
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