Washed in the Blood of the Messiah--Where Did that Idea Come From?

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James Tabor

James Tabor

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@christopherm3271
@christopherm3271 6 ай бұрын
This is all so interesting, even if you are not a practicing believer, it still feels like we are uncovering the deeper story and there is something deep here
@simonskinner1450
@simonskinner1450 3 ай бұрын
Christianity is a misconception of the NT, it is in the NT as false teaching called out by Paul, as Gentile converts thought the law had been done away with by Jesus. I have a Ytube video series 'Myths in so-called Christianity' for NT truth.
@lukeyznaga7627
@lukeyznaga7627 Ай бұрын
the more you uncover, the more shocking you realize this multi centuries long deception is. Read Andrew collins book about the fallen race of Angels and how those early myths along with the first religion of EGypt had a lot to do with the twisted and changed early Christian/Judaism religion. All scholars believe that the book of Genesis and the "torah" was not even written until the Babylon captivity. It was not written by Moses or Abraham.
@clevebaker8399
@clevebaker8399 6 ай бұрын
Suffer the little children to come to me! Unless you become as one of these children you will in no way enter in! The Word of God surely knows how to receive the gift of God! Eternal life! Thanks for sharing your analysis!! Excellent work 🙏
@mikechristopher7934
@mikechristopher7934 2 ай бұрын
Don't you mean the bloody children?🤣
@TomMoniz-i5o
@TomMoniz-i5o 6 ай бұрын
Very well done James. Thank you. Personally I do see a correlation with the Passover lamb and how its blood on the doorposts caused the death to limp over their homes, but that was neither a sin offering, nor was that blood touched, it was applied with hyssop.
@SMitch231
@SMitch231 6 ай бұрын
Loving this series too! Thanks, Dr. Tabor.
@ezzthetick
@ezzthetick 6 ай бұрын
Saul was purportedly Jewish, even though he didn’t live in Israel, but many commentators have found the origins of the Eucharist puzzling because they believe that, due to the Jewish strictures on blood, it would have been unthinkable for an Orthodox Jew to contemplate drinking blood, even if only symbolically. Have you addressed that issue?
@joestar6194
@joestar6194 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for calling him by his name.
@edwardmiessner6502
@edwardmiessner6502 6 ай бұрын
Either he was a Greek proselyte as the Ebionites claimed or he was a _minim_ who advocated abominations like pretend cannibalism and pretend vampirism from a pretend human blood sacrifice after being staurowed on a stauros.
@David_Brinkerhoff93
@David_Brinkerhoff93 6 ай бұрын
"shl" in Hebrew also could represent sheol. Just another clue I guess.
@iCupTV247
@iCupTV247 6 ай бұрын
It's not puzzling at all, eating the flesh and drinking the blood of the dying and rising god was a common feature of mystery religions
@patrickbass3542
@patrickbass3542 4 ай бұрын
@@iCupTV247 many "pagan" religions!
@AbrahamsBridges
@AbrahamsBridges 6 ай бұрын
Wow!! I’m floored!! Dr. Tabor, this is great!!! Thank you for sharing!!! So many conflicts within the teachings of Jesus, so many contradictions with the Torah and prophets…Figuring all of this out and their origins is a daunting task!!! If only people could break free and not have the fear of “hell” so that they could begin honestly looking at their canon!!
@sarahsmileseriously
@sarahsmileseriously 6 ай бұрын
Thanks, Dr. Tabor always feel like I’m going to class when I watch your videos.
@donmilland7606
@donmilland7606 6 ай бұрын
Dr. Tabor
@davidbradberry7637
@davidbradberry7637 6 ай бұрын
Praying to HaShem that this video will deliver many "christians" from their idolatry and turn to the Only True G-d.
@PMaximov
@PMaximov 6 ай бұрын
Amen amen
@davidcavanaugh5382
@davidcavanaugh5382 6 ай бұрын
Nice topic! Thanks for all your insights!
@dansaber4427
@dansaber4427 6 ай бұрын
In that story about the tax collector and the pharisee. The Pharisee went home feeling good.
@kenkaplan3654
@kenkaplan3654 6 ай бұрын
I wonder if Paul crystalized concerns that had been arising for decades about Jesus' death and non immediate return? "How could tis amazing guy die like this? How does it fit into some Divine order?" They had no answer so the idea of literalizing the "Pachal lamb" whose blood saved the Israelites in Egypt began to take hold. This something they could grasp. Did Paul originate it? I don't know.
@MyDogBooBoo
@MyDogBooBoo 6 ай бұрын
Paul was a pharisee. Taught by Gamaliel. When he "laid the foundations" he brought much of his thought patterns and reasoning paths into Christianity, how he made sense of a man he never met physically and was not taught by personally.
@grepora
@grepora 6 ай бұрын
@@MyDogBooBoo Don't trust Paul. He claimed to be a Pharisee but did not act like one. Luke falsely claims Paul was taught by Gamaliel. Don't trust Luke either.
@MyDogBooBoo
@MyDogBooBoo 6 ай бұрын
@@grepora Exactly
@clarencehammer3556
@clarencehammer3556 6 ай бұрын
That old hymn you mentioned is one of my favorites even without any lyrics just the music itself alone.
@e.chandrikagalbacs2449
@e.chandrikagalbacs2449 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing and explaining what the Bible really means about true sacrifice: a broken spirit and a broken and contrite heart, repentance and turning from sin, a personal relationship with God, not slaughtering animals and shedding blood, which always deeply disturbed me. I don’t understand why Paul turned it into a human sacrifice Gospel with all the blood washing g our sins - I could never except that and it never sounded like Jesus’ Gospel. Thank you for you wisdom and share, always in deep gratitude 🙏 🪷
@patrickbass3542
@patrickbass3542 4 ай бұрын
But, it's part and parcel of the New Testament message...you can't have it both ways!
@jdaze1
@jdaze1 6 ай бұрын
If they say "here he's in the desert don't believe them and dont go out to see". Paul was a/the false apostle mentioned in Revelation.
@RoseSharon7777
@RoseSharon7777 6 ай бұрын
The fact that many people are waking up to this truth you are revealing to us about Paul is just more proof the fig tree has blossomed and the end of this age is near. Jer 16:19-21 tells us the gentiles will become aware of the truth that YHWH is God alone in the day of affliction. Its our eyes that have been blinded in part. This is due to the centuries of false doctrine promoted by Paul the false apostle.
@ElsjeMassyn
@ElsjeMassyn 6 ай бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THIS FABULOUS VIDEO
@ernestrhodes2621
@ernestrhodes2621 4 ай бұрын
Strange I was thinking about the blood. Very well explained. I been confused about this topic for years. Thank you Dr. Tabor.
@Contemplate55
@Contemplate55 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting and vitally significant in understanding the mercy and forgiveness of HaShem and the role of repentance. Christians ignore repentance and forgiveness as it is demonstrated throughout the Hebrew Scripture. I hadn’t noticed or considered Paul as the source for the idea of atonement through the blood of Jesus. Certainly makes sense as you presented it so eloquently, Dr. Tabor. Thank you so much!
@Benjamin-jo4rf
@Benjamin-jo4rf 6 ай бұрын
Paul is the source for nearly all if not all the problematic parts of the "new testament". Christianity really has nothing to do with Jesus, it's just all Paul.
@MegaAnimeforlife
@MegaAnimeforlife 6 ай бұрын
@@Benjamin-jo4rfits interesting to how Jesus said he was gonna judge according to ones conduct and showing kindness to the poor in Matthew ”For the Son of Man will come with his angels in his Father’s glory, and then he will repay everyone according to his conduct.“ ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭16‬:‭27‬ ‭NABRE‬‬ Yet Paul was the one who no you have to accept Jesus as savior and if not your gonna be destroyed in hell and being a good person doesn't matter.that means evil Christians like the crusaders are in heaven but pacifists like ghandi are in hell and all the victims of the holocaust all in hell If that isn't evil idk what Is
@MegaAnimeforlife
@MegaAnimeforlife 6 ай бұрын
I converted to Christianity and became a messianic jew out of fear and I struggle with so much depression and anxiety and sadness from it just the thought of all my ancestors are in hell just for being Jewish like idk if I want to go to heaven if literally all my friends and family and ancestors are in hell even tho they practiced loving kindness like the Tanakh teaches all they're lives and loved Hashem with all they're heart and soul i think it's probably the most evil thing imaginable and I think about everyday and I'm constantly depression and sad because of it it has really fucked my head up but I stay a Christian out of fear even though I think it's evil
@ConsideringPhlebas
@ConsideringPhlebas 6 ай бұрын
"Christians ignore repentance and forgiveness" This is a silly myth of anti-Christian polemics. Repentance from sin is an absolute must in Christianity, and that's why metanoia-repentance is taught throughout the New Testament, including in Paul's writings: Romans 2:4, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11.
@donmilland7606
@donmilland7606 6 ай бұрын
That’s just wrong. Repentance and forgiveness are CRUCIAL tenants. Where could you possibly come up with that. You should not comment on things you don’t know or read about.
@GaryHudsonsMusic
@GaryHudsonsMusic 6 ай бұрын
When Paul wrote, "I have laid the foundation," he about said it all.
@megw7312
@megw7312 6 ай бұрын
Yes, I’d forgotten that he said that. It confirms my strong suspicions that he was an agent of Rome. Hijacking what had already been founded.
@megw7312
@megw7312 6 ай бұрын
Yes, I’d forgotten that he said that. It confirms my strong suspicion that Paul was an agent of Rome. Hijacking what had already been founded.
@francisfischer7620
@francisfischer7620 6 ай бұрын
It's SUCH a HIDEOUS thought!!! I worked so hard to believe this horrible idea and finally, after 40 years, gave up and have been much better for the forgetting.
@FredHosea
@FredHosea 6 ай бұрын
What a comforting rationalization of child sacrifice to pay the price for human sin that was permitted and enabled with full divine forethought. Why not create a universe where atonement had already been achieved without child sacrifice ?
@WhatGodDoeth
@WhatGodDoeth 6 ай бұрын
That's not what's being said here at all
@jackalenterprisesofohio
@jackalenterprisesofohio Ай бұрын
But it kinda was though, _then_ Adam and Eve decided to eat the forbidden fruit, though.....
@alexchavez4951
@alexchavez4951 3 ай бұрын
Question! Did the Dead Sea Scroll community believed in the temple sacrifices or did they developed their own way? Anybody??
@BenM61
@BenM61 6 ай бұрын
Great job James. It was simply Saul all along.
@neclark08
@neclark08 6 ай бұрын
"...It was All Saul, All Along..."
@ANewBeggining-so1wp
@ANewBeggining-so1wp 3 ай бұрын
I believe Saul of Tarsus will be the false prophet in Rev13 promoting his false AC Christ.
@cyndialbright3716
@cyndialbright3716 6 ай бұрын
Psalm 49:7
@johnthompson2256
@johnthompson2256 Ай бұрын
The requirement of a broken heart and a contrite spirit is brought up in your discussion. Laban, a character out of Genesis, could represent the opposite of this. His name is Lamed, Beit, and Nun sofit. Lamed and Beit could be Leb, or Heart, with the Nun sofit as Son of, or continues in. The heart continues, i.e. not broken. I have not found this in any writings but if there is some support please share this. Shalom. Thank you Dr. Tabor.
@haze1123
@haze1123 6 ай бұрын
It's an analogy to the Passover Lamb, right? The death of the innocent that removes sin and protects from judgement. It's not much of a leap. When Peter and James met the resurrected Jesus, did they not think that it was significant? What meaning did they attribute to the event?
@markrossow6303
@markrossow6303 6 ай бұрын
Correct, imho
@Contemplate55
@Contemplate55 6 ай бұрын
The lamb of Passover had nothing to do with atonement.
@haze1123
@haze1123 6 ай бұрын
​@@Contemplate55 In Corinthians 5 Paul refers to Jesus as "Christ our Passover."
@haze1123
@haze1123 6 ай бұрын
​@@Contemplate55In Judaism, the Passover lamb was slaughtered and eaten at a feast as an act of worship to God and the means of atoning for sin.
@johnpetry5321
@johnpetry5321 6 ай бұрын
The Passover lamb is killed for consumption not to offer its blood as a sin sacrifice.
@nadzach
@nadzach 6 ай бұрын
The first thing Paul got from Jesus was stern correction. Why did Paul rebel against instruction like that spoken by Stephen. There were Jews who were on the way of life the old-fashioned way--through the written word. Jesus brought us a new and living way. It begins with washing of water. To be clear, one must receive more than faith in that first baptism. In Jesus are also the gifts of faith for righteousness, faith for holiness and to become a "son of God" which requires another birth. Only when Christ is fully formed in you, can you be born in the image of Christ. This is that angel of your presence that passes on first, before your body follows. This is about the life in your blood that needs to be quickened like wine. You can look at the way of life by the court design of Moses, the changes in Abraham or the gospels which are titled with words that DEFINE the portion taught. Love grows, faith grows, hope grows, wisdom grows. We will never equal God, but we can become more like Jesus. Baptism in water washes away past sins. The blood of Jesus was shed two thousand years ago for sins you won't commit until next year. You must believe, receive, confess. Paul had studied the written word to obtain whatever faith he had. The first thing he received from Jesus was a stern rebuke, Why was he rebelling against direction given. Jesus offers you faith that is multi-portioned. You receive the spirit of Jesus. You follow him. He will offer you righteousness and holiness. Students will follow a teacher. Inevitably, they will follow to heaven or hell. Our teacher is he that he loves you so completely that the forgiveness of your future sin is in his nail-scarred hand. It's discouraging to see students who look for reasons not to believe. Rebellion is as witchcraft. What about students who were first drawn to the Proton by cords of love. Who misdirects them to a place where they want to cut those cords "asunder" as if they were "bonds" rather than love. I love a teacher who can say, I don't understand this" instead of giving reasons why it cant bd true. The gospels are lessons taught to four classes of students in the last year of Jesus' ministry. Mark is by definition the first portiont/preparation of the heart. Mat-theou/Matthew asks us the receive the spirit of the father/ righteousness/the alpha and omega with us/possibly מאתו. Luke is the third year students/the latter portion/לוק. Luke is about holiness.) The closest disciples like John pictured in the bosom or leaning on his chest were in the graduating class. (John, "the beginning of the response of Jah/ יענה/In the beginning was the Word." There is no Q. The variations in the gospels are very important. How terrible that students are so indoctrinated from childhood that their faith is already on shiftings sand.
@CarmenRizzo-pn1uw
@CarmenRizzo-pn1uw 6 ай бұрын
True history of the Great Traveler , how about It !
@jdaze1
@jdaze1 6 ай бұрын
The ransom = we must each die to SELF (old carnal man, 1st Adam) so we can live (new spiritual man, last Adam). No one can do it for us. The gospels are allegory.
@stalemateib3600
@stalemateib3600 6 ай бұрын
If I recall right, Dr. Tabor, Christian scholar E. W. Bullinger opposed the notion that Christians were "washed in the blood" of Jesus. He interpreted the Book of Revelation differently. He noted that some people could get that concept from Revelation 1:5 etc., but he pointed out that the Greek "EN" could mean "by virtue of" instead of "physically within." The passage in the Book of Isaiah can also be interpreted as "sins" being put for "sinners." The sinners would be washed white.
@ericneiman5556
@ericneiman5556 6 ай бұрын
I always wanted to know this
@onika700
@onika700 6 ай бұрын
I don't think Paul made the atonement up. He got it from the OT. The high priest on the Day of Atonement takes upon himself the sins of the people. Instead of the high priest being sacrificed, he transfers the sins onto the animal sacrifice. The people are supposed to repent in preparation for this day. The atonement covers unintentional sins. It doesn't cover murderers. They were executed.
@theonlyway5298
@theonlyway5298 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I follow the logic behind Tabor’s ideas here, even if I question his motivation. However this is an alternative narrative and interpretation which he has constructed, which does not mean that it is actually true. The weakness of his narrative and arguments is seen in his liberal use of multiple assumptions to ‘fill in the gaps’ (a characteristic also of Bart Ehrman’s ideas), in order to present his ‘alternative story’. The weakness of these presumptions means that Tabor’s ‘story’ is highly speculative, instead of factual. It is interesting, but I wouldn’t place too much trust in the speculations of academics like Tabor and Ehrman, particularly since they offer no better spirituality to their listeners. All that they would leave their listeners who trust their narratives, is an emptiness where there was once hope.
@rylands4289
@rylands4289 6 ай бұрын
They offer scholarship and not theology, this isnt something you teach on a sunday bible study
@theonlyway5298
@theonlyway5298 6 ай бұрын
@@rylands4289 Yes it is "scholarship", I agree. As such, it represents the diverse and multiple opinions of academics who have attempted to write their own gospels, adding to the ancient list of non canonical gospels - the difference between these modern non canonical versions like Tabor's and Ehrman's from the other ancient attempts to rewrite the gospels, is not as great as you may think. While their methodology may be different, their results of denials are the same. Also the absence of theology is not a strength but a weakness, particularly bearing in mind the backslidden state of these men who were once faithful believers. While you say you attend Sunday Bible study and that is the extent of your studies, others study every day of the week and have a great interest in both archaeology and history behind the New Testament. I find Tabor very interesting, but flawed because of his filling in the gaps with presumptions and opinions which reflect his own bias.
@gwenjenkins155
@gwenjenkins155 5 ай бұрын
I was taught that being "washed in the blood" making the sinner white as snow actually refers to Leprosy that turns the affected being fully white diagnosed the ending of the disease for that person.
@gwenjenkins155
@gwenjenkins155 5 ай бұрын
Sorry, it should read "signifying that the person affected with leprosy is fully healed."
@joestar6194
@joestar6194 6 ай бұрын
Blood and water are essential for life, so being the superstitious primates that we are. Blood and water inevitably was and will always be a part of religious mythology.
@gabrieledupres
@gabrieledupres 6 ай бұрын
Alot of things are essential for life , like the energy (from the sun ) or the air we breathe - so those 2 are just a random pick
@joestar6194
@joestar6194 6 ай бұрын
@@gabrieledupres Blood is the subject matter of the video Einstein.
@dr-johngy-brongen
@dr-johngy-brongen 6 ай бұрын
Wine is also essential
@steveserrao1509
@steveserrao1509 6 ай бұрын
Again, great scholarly work here. What you, Dr. Ehrman, and other Biblical scholars demonstrate to me is that, 1) "Man" has spiritual revelations. 2) Men want to help others. 3) Men experience spirituality through the uniqueness of their personal interpretation. 4) Man's supposed intelligence over-complicates the revelation to the point where, often eventually, Man kills other men over differences in the individual revelations (Catholic and Protestant, Sunni and Shite, etc.). Actual Biblical history "should" prove to every soul that we are witnessing the opinions of individuals whose inspiration applies to that individual. If only the people of the world would understand that if someone is telling you - you will burn in Hell for not believing exactly as "I believe," and simply follow the rule that Jesus, and others, taught: Believe in Love, and forgiving others. Not judging others and practicing unconditional love is the key to happiness. If you don't believe that, I will not judge you. It's your business, not mine. All I know is that I love you, no matter who you are and what you did. I forgive you. This is for my salvation and sanity. This is all I really have control of.
@norabang3153
@norabang3153 5 ай бұрын
thank you. is it possible to find a version of Marc that is not influenced by Paul? I heard there is one in the Vatican that is the original version of Marc.
@alexwelts2553
@alexwelts2553 6 ай бұрын
Wow, i wonder why there's not any living relations of this bloodline? Also this bloodline is obviously a delicacy.
@rodolfovega8654
@rodolfovega8654 4 ай бұрын
To what extent is Paul committed to converting Gentiles to a new religion? To what extent in that commitment he is absorbing the ideas and rituals of the Gentiles, such as the Mithra followers?
@rajeshbarya9938
@rajeshbarya9938 6 ай бұрын
Blood and Wine are also offered to Goddess Kali during the Tantric worship. So, worship of Jesus with blood and wine is in a way a left-hand tantric ceremony. Blood, the colour red is connected with Shakti (she always wears red colour clothes.), the consort of Lord Shiva. Ascended masters taught the blood offering as the Violet Flame Meditation.
@VerbotenBiblia
@VerbotenBiblia 5 ай бұрын
He got it right here...............Phip 4:22 All the saints salute you, chiefly they that are of Caesar’s household.
@mahlonmarr856
@mahlonmarr856 3 ай бұрын
I don't know how I missed this when it came out, but for me, it's your most important video to date. Christianity definitely reflects Paul's pagan influence. Both Jesus and John the Baptizer taught salvation through repentance, not animal (or human) sacrifice. As you pointed out: "John the Baptist appeared in the wilderness, preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins." -Mark 1:4 "No one can redeem the life of another or give to God a ransom for them." -Psalms 49:7 Indeed, the term "The Lord's Supper" was so associated with pagan Mithraism, it was an embarrassment for the early church fathers. And the early Roman center for Mithraism was in wealthy Tarsus, Paul's native city. The name of the rite was changed to the Eucharist, or later, to communion. Interesting fact, when it came time for communion, George Washington got up and went home.
@torjusekkje6264
@torjusekkje6264 6 ай бұрын
This is great!!
@emilbordon1329
@emilbordon1329 6 ай бұрын
Mithras?
@scout2469
@scout2469 6 ай бұрын
Yep, the idea surly does not come from Judaism. The followers of Mithra used to sacrifice bulls in such away that the blood would fall down on them.
@scout2469
@scout2469 6 ай бұрын
Yep, it surly does not come from Judaism. The followers of Mithra would sacrifice bulls in such a way that the blood would fall down onto them.
@lukasmakarios4998
@lukasmakarios4998 6 ай бұрын
Possibly. But the popularity of Mithras with Roman soldiers is a bit of a disconnect, and may not be quite contemporary.
@Brutuscomedy
@Brutuscomedy 6 ай бұрын
A few questions: Was there a "last supper?" Did Jeshua pronounce a new covenant? Did he, moreover, link his own death to Passover? It's interesting to ponder the Pauline influence yet discerning what happened at the end of Jeshua's life remains important. I don't see repentance and faith in the salvific blood of Messiah as contradictory or competing claims per se.
@wilfredmancy
@wilfredmancy 6 ай бұрын
Blood which is life takes away sin/death, its not rocket science. Life is the antidote for death.
@ElsjeMassyn
@ElsjeMassyn 6 ай бұрын
Cant wait to see the movie: CHRISTSPIRACY Which will be launched on the 20th March 2024 Kameron Waters and Kip Anderson made the movie It revolves around animal sacrifice
@henrynoel4223
@henrynoel4223 4 ай бұрын
I tend to think that Paul, in his philosophy, was trying to justify himself for the persecutions he had committed against the early believers. I'm convinced it was through contact with those people, in the course of those persecutions, that led to his eventual conversion, and created within himself a guilt that could only be assuaged by creating a new vision that essentially let him off the hook for the crimes he had committed.
@jrettetsohyt1
@jrettetsohyt1 5 ай бұрын
(Continued). As a teacher, parent, government (or God) it is a constant struggle to varying degrees To keep people near the straight and narrow. Would anyone want to make that an eternal struggle? Not even our gracious God wants that. We’ve all met people whose heart is naturally mostly good, and we wish everyone could have such a good heart. Then we can stay at level one of the progression towards sacrifices, free of the need for a law with its penalties over us-- Not because the rules themselves had become irrelevant or changed, but because everyone is already naturally keeping them. This was the hope and promise that God revealed to Israel for all people, and what Paul meant. With this context, which we’ve all experienced, it is the natural and obvious interpretation of Paul’s words that if you walk according to the spirit of the law then you are free from the written law with its penalties. If you think Paul meant that the law was changed or done away with, then you are putting Paul in opposition to his fellow apostles, Jesus himself and the all the words of God until Paul-- There is no precedent and no scripture to support the idea of doing away with the law. Indeed, where did that idea come from? Just another man hundreds of years after Paul?
@TheOhioCountryboy
@TheOhioCountryboy 6 ай бұрын
Mr. Tabor, do you believe that Paul was inspired by Jesus, or do you believe he was a charlatan?
@tookie36
@tookie36 14 күн бұрын
Why was Paul “persecuting” the church initially tho? Obviously it wasn’t observance to Torah. I’m guessing is he would have seen/ known about the lords supper and baptism bc what else distinguished the so called christians? Although Paul claims he received information from the lord. What was prior to Paul?
@OttoNomicus
@OttoNomicus 6 ай бұрын
It's obviously Mithraic. Mithra sacrificed a bull and it's blood dripped down onto the earth: "The white bull was metamorphosed into the moon; the cloak of Mithra was transformed into the vault of the sky, with the shining planets and fixed stars; from the tail of the bull and from his blood sprang the first ears of grain and the grape". Then comes the model for the Last Supper: "After the sacrifice, Mithra and the sun god banqueted together, ate meat and bread, and drank wine. Then Mithra mounted the chariot of the sun god and drove with him across the ocean, through the air to the end of the world". Jesus just did the communal meal before the sacrifice instead of after.
@marshalldarcy7423
@marshalldarcy7423 6 ай бұрын
One, I would think, would have to look at the anointing with blood of the horns of the alter in the old testament as ordered by God through Moses, as well as God referencing blood as being life in the old testament. The use of blood is mentioned several times in the old testament. It is clear in the old testament that if one wishes to slit the throat of a lamb one must do something with the blood or for that matter any animal. If Paul knew of the process of sacrifice at the temple blood would be a clear understanding of any problem. It is also clear in the Old Testament that there is sin sacrifice or animals being destroyed to free oneself of sin. I ask this question of Dr Tabor was there blood animal sacrifice for sin inside or at the gate of the 2nd temple during Jesus life?
@ritawing1064
@ritawing1064 6 ай бұрын
Anything in common with the - historically posterior - taurobolium? Some common ancestor?
@stechriswillgil3686
@stechriswillgil3686 6 ай бұрын
Most Catholic churches when i was a kid still had lots of plaster icons and a large model of the cross hanging from the ceiling with jesus in a stylised pose . Now then, think on this : what if very, very realistic models could be made of scenes from the film The Passion Of The Christ ( youve seen the technical skill now available), of a really appalling blood soaked and agonising Jesus on a cross or being severely scourged covered in blood. Maybe a mechanical model that moves screams and wails in agony ? You can bet your life that parishioners wouldn't put up with it ! Children would be terrified to go to church to look at this hyper real moving talking manaquin ! But why not ? Why not symbolically wipe fake blood from its writhing head and smear your forehead with it ? You see, part of the sanitising of christian imagery in churches is part of the subtle indoctrination process. Its a way of sugaring the pill. And what of the wider psychological ramifications of submersing young minds in this scapegoating and blood sacrifice imagery ? I noticed at school that the poorer kids got the sharp end of the teachers tongue and picked on more as easy targets. We were the undesrving sinners that recieved to he cane regularly. We where the ones scapegoated and punnished because , well.....someone had to be...
@Emymagdalena
@Emymagdalena 6 ай бұрын
If we know that the priestly source had the motivation to include the doctrine of animal sacrifice, who or what group do you think wrote the “I never asked you to make sacrifices” concept? Was it a contemporary group to the priestly source or from oral tradition? Has this been researched yet?
@jrettetsohyt1
@jrettetsohyt1 5 ай бұрын
Yes, confession, repentance, forgiveness, faith and love are nuts new ideas, but what God has required of his people from the beginning. God designed human relationship success to depend on these things as well. Here is the practical logical progression to sacrifice: From the perspective of a teacher: 1. Benefit of the doubt. If my students do everything they’re supposed to do, then I don’t need to spend time telling them anything about what theyshould do, let alone start talking about penalties. 2. Words. If I find that my students are doing things that hurt other students for my purpose for the class, then I would verbally educate/clarify whatever rules are relevant, And probably periodically remind them. 3. Writing. If my students seem to keep forgetting my invisible words, then I would write the rules in a place where everyone could see them so that no one could claim ignorance or forgetfulness, and I don’t have to waste time repeatedly reminding them verbally. Note: I would assume my students were intelligent, and so first try to summarize what proper behavior is in a few abstract rules. Then if I found that they kept doing something wrong, as if they couldn’t infer an application of abstract summary rules, then on a case by case basis I would add specific laws to clarify my interpretation and intention of the summary rules. Note: There are probably an infinite number of ways to do the wrong thing in any situation. So it is impractical to list all of the rules that a person who walks the right way is actually keeping. We don’t imagine such a person is consciously thinking of all of those rules; instead, we describe them as having a natural intelligence/intuition/talent/temperament/spirit. The summary/abstract rules mentioned above try to efficiently capture that ‘spirit’ of the law. 4. Legal consequences. If students keep breaking the spirit of the law, but they can’t claim to lack knowledge of the law, then I know I need to add something that will affect their heart/motivation. Enter an incentive structure of benefits and costs, incentives and deterrents, blessings and cursings. Note: In order for penalties to work properly, a positive foundation of love and hope (and faith in these) must have already been laid (built through faithful word and action of the teacher). In this case, typically, the initial additional incentive structure is simplified to a list of costs, since the benefits were already naturally there, inherent to the purpose of the class. This is a kind of sacrificial system. The purpose of the “sacrificial system“ is to help them internalize knowledge of the truth (the reality of these rules as part of the structure to succeed) to the level of memory and belief/faith, and of fear if not also love, so It actually shapes their behavior if not also their heart. From another angle, the testimony of sacrifices, including the testimony of Jesus’ sacrifice, is that God really cares that much about the purpose and that the structure of right (and wrong) paths/behaviors/actions/choices really do lead to success at that purpose. God’s purpose is for a diversity of beings able to sustain a united community forever, and all that that implies (eg, real acts and feelings of faith, hope, love, righteousness, peace and joy. 5. Real consequences. If my students still do things that make us unable to succeed at the purpose of the class, then there is real failure, including loss of all investments of time, effort, heart and opportunity costs. Real death of the purpose (or, in other situations, of the relationship, or of people themselves).
@lukeyznaga7627
@lukeyznaga7627 Ай бұрын
what I want to know, is where the bleep did this UNNECESSARY violent blood need for sacrifice of sins come from, when IT WAS IN OLD TEST days? because that, THAT, is what led into this NEW BELIEF that God decided that that practice was no good, AND ONLY NOW..now did he have to send his actual "son" to die and bleed for mankind's sin? if it was necessary, why did God and Jesus wait so long to introduce the Israelites the fact that God was going to let HIS son die for their sins and wouldn't accept anymore the sacrifice of bulls and goats??? why wait so long? AND WHO MADE the rule that this "sin" had to require blood? If god is a very powerful god, why does he need blood to forgive us our sin?
@lukeyznaga7627
@lukeyznaga7627 Ай бұрын
Its funny how nobody has the courage to respond, read or answer my challenge?
@michelhaineault6654
@michelhaineault6654 2 ай бұрын
Jesus is the sacrificial lamb
@simonskinner1450
@simonskinner1450 3 ай бұрын
Dr Tabor "justified by his blood" is a covenant promise, that by faith Jesus will sprinkle his blood on the Mercy Seat. I have Ytube videos 'Myths in so-called Christianity'.
@andumenged
@andumenged 6 ай бұрын
Let me understand this. So anything that’s in the Gospels and is similar to Paul comes from Paul. With this logic we can conclude Paul created Jesus. The 12 Apostles, the birth of Jesus from the lineage of David, the brother of the Lord, the Crucifixion, the burial and resurrection of Jesus etc. do all come from paul because according to the logic in the video these things are found in both the Gospels and Paul. I’m not sure if the argument is really convincing?
@Thomas-bq4ed
@Thomas-bq4ed 6 ай бұрын
Paul being the earliest account and writer of these specific ideas. Jesus existence, death, resurrection, are throughout all the gospels. It’s about seeing particular themes, or teachings because it doesn’t seem they all believe the same things. So Paul seems to have founded some fundamental ideas that become popularized in the early church
@mintmax
@mintmax 29 күн бұрын
@@Thomas-bq4edYes, as everyone knows, the first one to write about an idea is the one who founded it. Never mind what could have been communicated orally. Everyone wrote to each other in letters only, it was very efficient, as easy as texting.
@Thomas-bq4ed
@Thomas-bq4ed 29 күн бұрын
@@mintmax do you know why Paul’s letters are recorded? How we even know he was writing early on in the church? How about Acts? Mark? It’s because they are being circulated in the early church, hence “popularized,” no one is arguing writing came before oral tradition, but straw man away if it makes you feel involved
@onika700
@onika700 6 ай бұрын
Alma 42: 1 And now, my son, I perceive there is somewhat more which doth worry your mind, which ye cannot understand-which is concerning the justice of God in the punishment of the sinner; for ye do try to suppose that it is injustice that the sinner should be consigned to a state of misery. 2 Now behold, my son, I will explain this thing unto thee. For behold, after the Lord God sent our first parents forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground, from whence they were taken-yea, he drew out the man, and he placed at the east end of the garden of Eden, cherubim, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the tree of life- 3 Now, we see that the man had become as God, knowing good and evil; and lest he should put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat and live forever, the Lord God placed cherubim and the flaming sword, that he should not partake of the fruit- 4 And thus we see, that there was a time granted unto man to repent, yea, a probationary time, a time to repent and serve God. 5 For behold, if Adam had put forth his hand immediately, and partaken of the tree of life, he would have lived forever, according to the word of God, having no space for repentance; yea, and also the word of God would have been void, and the great plan of salvation would have been frustrated. 6 But behold, it was appointed unto man to die-therefore, as they were cut off from the tree of life they should be cut off from the face of the earth-and man became lost forever, yea, they became fallen man. 7 And now, ye see by this that our first parents were cut off both temporally and spiritually from the presence of the Lord; and thus we see they became subjects to follow after their own will. 8 Now behold, it was not expedient that man should be reclaimed from this temporal death, for that would destroy the great plan of happiness. 9 Therefore, as the soul could never die, and the fall had brought upon all mankind a spiritual death as well as a temporal, that is, they were cut off from the presence of the Lord, it was expedient that mankind should be reclaimed from this spiritual death. 10 Therefore, as they had become carnal, sensual, and devilish, by nature, this probationary state became a state for them to prepare; it became a preparatory state. 11 And now remember, my son, if it were not for the plan of redemption, (laying it aside) as soon as they were dead their souls were miserable, being cut off from the presence of the Lord. 12 And now, there was no means to reclaim men from this fallen state, which man had brought upon himself because of his own disobedience; 13 Therefore, according to justice, the plan of redemption could not be brought about, only on conditions of repentance of men in this probationary state, yea, this preparatory state; for except it were for these conditions, mercy could not take effect except it should destroy the work of justice. Now the work of justice could not be destroyed; if so, God would cease to be God. 14 And thus we see that all mankind were fallen, and they were in the grasp of justice; yea, the justice of God, which consigned them forever to be cut off from his presence. 15 And now, the plan of mercy could not be brought about except an atonement should be made; therefore God himself atoneth for the sins of the world, to bring about the plan of mercy, to appease the demands of justice, that God might be a perfect, just God, and a merciful God also. 16 Now, repentance could not come unto men except there were a punishment, which also was eternal as the life of the soul should be, affixed opposite to the plan of happiness, which was as eternal also as the life of the soul. 17 Now, how could a man repent except he should sin? How could he sin if there was no law? How could there be a law save there was a punishment? 18 Now, there was a punishment affixed, and a just law given, which brought remorse of conscience unto man. 19 Now, if there was no law given-if a man murdered he should die-would he be afraid he would die if he should murder? 20 And also, if there was no law given against sin men would not be afraid to sin. 21 And if there was no law given, if men sinned what could justice do, or mercy either, for they would have no claim upon the creature? 22 But there is a law given, and a punishment affixed, and a repentance granted; which repentance, mercy claimeth; otherwise, justice claimeth the creature and executeth the claw, and the law inflicteth the punishment; if not so, the works of justice would be destroyed, and God would cease to be God. 23 But God ceaseth not to be God, and mercy claimeth the penitent, and mercy cometh because of the atonement; and the atonement bringeth to pass the resurrection of the dead; and the resurrection of the dead bringeth back men into the presence of God; and thus they are restored into his presence, to be judged according to their works, according to the law and justice. 24 For behold, justice exerciseth all his demands, and also mercy claimeth all which is her own; and thus, none but the truly penitent are saved. 25 What, do ye suppose that mercy can rob justice? I say unto you, Nay; not one whit. If so, God would cease to be God. 26 And thus God bringeth about his great and eternal purposes, which were prepared from the foundation of the world. And thus cometh about the salvation and the redemption of men, and also their destruction and misery. 27 Therefore, O my son, whosoever will come may come and partake of the waters of life freely; and whosoever will not come the same is not compelled to come; but in the last day it shall be restored unto him according to his deeds. 28 If he has desired to do evil, and has not repented in his days, behold, evil shall be done unto him, according to the restoration of God. 29 And now, my son, I desire that ye should let these things trouble you no more, and only let your sins trouble you, with that trouble which shall bring you down unto repentance. 30 O my son, I desire that ye should deny the justice of God no more. Do not endeavor to excuse yourself in the least point because of your sins, by denying the justice of God; but do you let the justice of God, and his mercy, and his long-suffering have full sway in your heart; and let it bring you down to the dust in humility.
@trevorbates8972
@trevorbates8972 6 ай бұрын
It's quite simple really. Being washed in the blood of the lamb is an update on the shedding of the blood of sacrificial lambs organised by Moses. We wouldn't know about our nerves, our living cell replication, or our blood circulation for a few thousand years, especially our blood filtration system, so vital to life, but Almighty God ensured we had a therapy that cleansed the blood of the righteous and Jesus Christ taught it to us.
@ntvrthmn
@ntvrthmn 6 ай бұрын
If the gospels were written after most of the rest of the NT, and we see disagreements scattered in most of the letters, could it be that the gospels were written in response to some of Paul, Peter, and James disagreements? Maybe to sort of straighten out those arguments? Throw in that 1-3 John guy...was he referring to Paul who left because he never really was a part of "us"? I see lots of spiritual harassment, hate, and abuse in those guys.
@jrettetsohyt1
@jrettetsohyt1 5 ай бұрын
Remember that in the last verse of psalms 51, once David has got his heart right, then and only then does god delight in animal sacrifices. It may be that God delights in animal sacrifices in the same way that he was pleased, as it says, for Jesus to be sacrificed. His delight is not directly in the blood of bulls and suffering of any being in itself. But, like Job, we simply don’t have enough information to judge God about the suffering of anyone, sacrificial or not. I don’t like the suffering involved - - and I don’t think any of us are supposed to. That’s part of the point. And if you are trying to ignore the reality of somehow-worthwhile sacrifice, then you may be ignoring one of the most important and naturally emotionally affecting parts of reality - - even in the spirit world. God does not waste pain.
@jerryhogeweide5288
@jerryhogeweide5288 6 ай бұрын
I think a lot of the confusion is because he was crucified around Passover. He went into Jerusalem to demonstrate against that practice and that’s probably the main reason he was crucified. But instead, he was just doing what he was told to do and intentionally fulfilling Daniel 9. That’s why he kept it a secret telling them not to tell anyone until around 30CE. It would be more appropriate to say he was also fulfilling Yom Kipper, becoming that first goat slaughtered. The second goat was supposed to be led away, handed to a caretaker and taken into the wilderness where he would be set free. The goat naturally would choose to stay with his new master instead of returning. That’s a good description of the suffering servant in Isa 53 despised and rejected. Something Jesus didn’t really suffer except on that weekend. You point out that this life of suffering is the message in Mark and the way of salvation but it’s more than just that. That sacrifice was prophetic in scope. Salvation was on the ones to whom the arm of god was revealed. The messengers throughout Israel’s history and who would believe their report? They all suffered but their obedience itself was confirming the covenant. So even if Jesus himself said you must eat my flesh and drink my blood, it wasn’t a sacrifice like the Passover. It was saying become like me and do likewise or you’re not worthy. It’s too bad the rabbis didn’t understand and instead of following the command, they would immediately lead the scapegoat over a cliff, thinking they could prevent sin from returning. Ironically, Jesus is the national designated scapegoat blamed for everything along with Christianity, and anyone who is Christian is led out of the city too and banned from the communities. That’s the reason that temple was destroyed because they broke the covenant they had in not following that instruction. The prophets all agree god never wanted sacrifices and Passover got way out of control. Isa 53 is about all those prophets and when he returns, he will suffer again just like it’s written but this time over a lifetime of testing. It didn’t please god to watch Jesus suffer but it will please him to bring him back and cause it again so that we get it right for once. Paul came in on the wing of an abomination and began this blood sacrifice idea that’s caused untold devastation, ruining god’s reputation. That prophecy isn’t finished quite yet.
@brandonmass3787
@brandonmass3787 6 ай бұрын
Did he get the idea from the Cult of Attis and Artemis at Ephesus?
@kurttillmann4714
@kurttillmann4714 3 күн бұрын
From another teacher years ago: The idea of being washed in the blood is from the pagan Demeter cult in which the initiate is placed in a pit with a grate over. A bull (the symbol of the godess) is led over the grate and the throat is slit drenching the convert (initiate) in the blood of the godess, and likely ingesting some of the blood. In this way, the initiate becomes "in the godess", and the godess becomes "in him". Does this sound familiar? Jn 6: 56; Gal 3: 27; Rom 6: 3; 1 Cor 12: 13; Rom 12: 5, and others. This is paganism: Paul is trying to teach pagans Christianity in terms they can relate to. Deut 12: 30- 32: Do NOT LEARN the ways of the pagans and say you are doing so unto Me. For all these things that they do are an abomination before Me. Show me a text where God says He accepts human sacrifice for anything. I cannot find one. In addition to this video, I would recommend Dr. Tabors video on "The: Jerusalem Temple as a Den of Thieves". Ross Nichols: "The Temple Sacrificial Cult and the Lying Pen of the Scribes" Michael Skobac: "Why Jesus Didn't Have to Die to Atone for Sin" What eye openers
@Bodhi_118
@Bodhi_118 6 ай бұрын
Why was the old world obsessed with child sacrifice?
@montyeason3973
@montyeason3973 6 ай бұрын
Rev.1:5 KJV And from JEsus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten from the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him who loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood.
@mahboobkhan3570
@mahboobkhan3570 5 ай бұрын
Your videos are quite inspiring. As a Muslim if I carefully examine your research it becomes clear that the story of Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, is closer to Islam’s. Allah says in Qur’aan that: Iesa Elaihisalam or Jesus Christ was a Prophet and a Messenger of Allah. That he was a Maseeh or Massaya. He was a servant of Allah. He was not the son of God He was not God He was not killed He was not crucified, it was made to appear to them so. Allah saved him and took him back to Himself. The Christians are in doubt and are guessing about him. You may kindly study Qur’aan.
@Sjsg68
@Sjsg68 6 ай бұрын
When you were tired because most of the texts that come from different Christian groups support the same atoning idea, you stood up and said that they were simply influenced by Paul! Circular logic. The Gospel of Matthew is an anti-Paul Gospel. Note Matthew 5. He grew up in a Jewish community and carries the same idea. John supports Peter’s ecclesiastical primacy instead of Paul. Note John 21. Despite this, he believes in the infidels. These are not only non-Paulists, these are hostile to Paul. It is difficult to imagine them stealing from Paul so softly. Note the writings of people who claim to follow James and Peter at the end of the first century and the minerals of Paul very much (the literature of Clement, the Didache, the Ebionites). They all believe in the atoning meal in a more extreme way. Do they Do you think it's easy to simply take their enemy's main idea and sanctify it? In the dialogue in the Epistle of James about works and faith, he is clearly responding to Paul, but we know what he meant by “works.” But what is this faith that seems important? You will not find its explanation except in Paul Regarding the texts of forgiveness that you quoted from the Lord Jesus, John, and James, they are all found in Paul’s baptism, the church’s confession, and others. On the contrary, James shows extremism as he commands you to confess your sins to the church. That is, no subsequent Christian found any contradiction between baptism, confession, and the blood of Jesus
@Bjl1976
@Bjl1976 6 ай бұрын
In the book "Christ Returns, Speaks his Truth" Jesus says that leading up to the last supper the disciples were discussing the Isrealites escaping into the desert and Moses instructions to each family to paint lambs blood on their door posts after which God would send angels to kill tge first born of all Egyptian families and their livestock. He had tried to teach them that the Father was loving and those tales were not of God. He decided that if they were so obsessed with the spilling of blood then blood is what he would leave them with and thus he relayed the blood and body message.
@RocketKirchner
@RocketKirchner 6 ай бұрын
If you correlate Macabees 2 and 4 to Mark 10:45 you see the correlation . Except the Mac martyrs limited their blood sacrifice to Jews . Jesus extended it to ALL humans .
@veryinteresting591
@veryinteresting591 6 ай бұрын
Genesis 22:8 And Abraham said, my son, God will provide HIMSELF a lamb for a burnt offering.
@larryprimeau5885
@larryprimeau5885 6 ай бұрын
It's as old as the human race. read Rene Girard on Scapegoating.
@philosophicalneo
@philosophicalneo 6 ай бұрын
Well from a biased theological sense. Isnt it the sprinkling of the lambs blood from Moses but put into the context that we believe Christ was God incarnate... which makes his precious blood all the more powerful?
@FiveNineO
@FiveNineO 10 күн бұрын
It's a real shame that we'll never know what the real "Christians" actually belived and practiced
@nubtube7313
@nubtube7313 6 ай бұрын
Well I am not an Evangelical, but doesn't washed in the blood have something to do with believing in Jesus so that you can be forgiven your sins and enter heaven? And isn't that general concept represented in what Jesus taught? Jesus died on the cross to wash away the sins of man, but I don't believe the intended meaning is automatic forgiveness, you still have to believe in order to enter the kingdom of God. But what I don't get is how does comparing various texts from the old and new testaments prove the Apostles took something from Paul, or the other way around? Dr. Tabor, you give 12 students in a room a message and then tell them to go out and tell as many people as they can in 1 hour. You then call another student on his mobile to give him the same message with instructions to tell as many people as he can in 1 hour. Two questions, the first is how shocked are you going to be when you find out all 13 people were reciting a similar message? And the second question is did the 12 students take the message from the student you contacted by phone, or did the student you contacted by phone get the message from the other 12? Unless I have misunderstood something, what Dr. Tabor is suggesting is that the Apostles never actually followed Jesus around for several years, and the last supper never actually happened. Instead Dr. Tabor thinks what happened is a guy named Saul wanted to make his own religion, so he concocted a story centered around a recent high profile crucifixion he heard about as he was traveling to Damascus. I'm guessing he changes his name to Paul for unknown reasons, but the important part is that he used the Jewish book of faith he was already very familiar with as inspiration.
@Michael-pn5lp
@Michael-pn5lp 6 ай бұрын
"And the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes,‭ ‭And be ready against the third day: for the third day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.‭" (Exodus 19:10-11) "Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.‭ ‭After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.‭ ‭Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.‭" (Hosea 6:1-3) True Christians have been washing, and been scantified in His sacrificial blood for two thousand-year-days, and will be changed and raised up in the imminent "third day" since His resurrection and ascention in 30AD. The "third day" begins on the 21 March 2031: the day after "the great and dreadful day of Yahweh" when the wicked are burnt up and removed from the earth - leaving nothing but ashes for the rightious to tread upon ! The second advent is witnessed by all the survivers SOMETIME afterwards - who knows exactly when....
@bobSeigar
@bobSeigar 6 ай бұрын
Oh dear, this is not the washed blood I was thinking it would be in reference to....
@colinmilton8823
@colinmilton8823 6 ай бұрын
I think it’s because Caiaphas the High Priest said “it’s better that one man die for the people than the entire nation be destroyed”
@marionhallee9710
@marionhallee9710 6 ай бұрын
QUESTION: I've watched you for a long time and I'm just wondering if you are a "Believer" ?
@charlesmatthes4880
@charlesmatthes4880 6 ай бұрын
Only Jews descending from the scribes mentioned in Jeremiah 8:8 would not understand the whole point of the Torah and the prophets.
@daPain812001
@daPain812001 6 ай бұрын
It's all lines up in Clementine Homilies. Paul got it from a demon
@daPain812001
@daPain812001 6 ай бұрын
According to 2 Corinthians 12:7 paul has an angel of satan in his flesh
@studiodemichel
@studiodemichel 6 ай бұрын
Quick answer: the "idea" comes from the Holy Spirit of God?
@MyDogBooBoo
@MyDogBooBoo 6 ай бұрын
The blood on the doors at the first passover in the hebrews scriptures. A tutor.
@ConsideringPhlebas
@ConsideringPhlebas 6 ай бұрын
That sneaky Paul must've even mislead Jews into believing in the atoning death of the righteous: Babylonian Talmud: Moed Katan 28a: "Rabbi Ami said: Why was the Torah portion that describes the death of Miriam juxtaposed to the portion dealing with the red heifer? To tell you: Just as the red heifer atones for sin, so too, the death of the righteous atones for sin." Jerusalem Talmud Sanhedrin 11:5:9: "How can I confirm your people for his people? Rebbi Johanan in the name of Rebbi Simeon ben Iohai: That drop of blood which was drawn from the just man did atone for all of Israel." Leviticus Rabbah 20:12: "The sons of Aaron died on the first of Nisan [in the spring]. Why then is their death mentioned in connection with the Day of Atonement [in the fall]? It must be to teach that as the Day of Atonement effects atonement, so the death of the righteous effects atonement." Exodus Rabbah 35:4: "The Holy One, blessed be He, replied: I will then take one of their righteous men and retain him as collateral on their behalf, in order that I may grant them atonement for all their sins." Pirkei de Rabbi Eliezer 29:2: "Know then that on the Day of Atonement Abraham our father was circumcised. Every year the Holy One, blessed be He, sees the blood of our father Abraham's circumcision, and He forgives all the sins of Israel, as it is said, "For on this day shall atonement be made for you, to cleanse you" (Lev. 16:30). In that place where Abraham was circumcised and his blood remained, there the altar was built, and therefore, "And all the blood thereof shall he pour out at the base of the altar" (Lev. 4:30).
@tookie36
@tookie36 14 күн бұрын
You have to rip apart the Torah to omit blood sacrifice. Which you can do but if you take that major part seriously then Jesus as the lamb makes sense before Paul
@teddrickmilsap5994
@teddrickmilsap5994 6 ай бұрын
If Paul can't be trusted as someone whom God created and allowed him to partake of the bible then you can disguard the whole book.
@lukasmakarios4998
@lukasmakarios4998 6 ай бұрын
That is the whole intention of the Deconstructionist agenda, and it feeds the Woke ideology with "disillusioned" and confused wanderers. Do not be deceived.
@RoseSharon7777
@RoseSharon7777 6 ай бұрын
God said he would send SAVIORS (plural) Obadiah 1:21. And James tells us James 5:20 that anyone who converts a lost sinner is a savior. Thats the point of going to the nations and preaching the good news of redemption by REPENTANCE as John the Baptist taught as well as all the prophets. Isaiah 49-54 is xplains that the annointed are ALL the elect chosen by God. Confirming Revelation 21:7. To WHOMEVER overcomes he will INHERIT ALL THINGS. I will be his Elohim And he will be MY SON. The son of God has always been plural in scripture Ex 4:22, Hosea 11:1 just like the virgin daughter of Zion is not one person.
@ShroudedinLove
@ShroudedinLove 6 ай бұрын
You say “i think” alot. 😅 ✝️🙏🏼💟
@aalimmohammad8424
@aalimmohammad8424 9 күн бұрын
My research reveals to me that the Romans wrote in Paul’ name. God Almighty knows for sure. Your Information you display in your videos is saying that they ( The Romans), wrote in Paul’s and other’s name. I think the verse you misquoted was Galatians 1:12. Paul claims to have received his revelation from a man, Jesus(as). Peace
@stuckinlodi100
@stuckinlodi100 6 ай бұрын
Holy mackerel that lamb had a hell of a lotta blood!
@stephenballard-f9h
@stephenballard-f9h 6 ай бұрын
The Pharisee and tax collector in Luke 18 are almost certainly a parabolic way of referring to the ""self righteousness" of the Jerusalem church who separate in Antioch from Paul's sinners of the Gentiles (Gal 2:15). The Zealots of the Jerusalem church (like Judas of Galilee) would not have accepted a tax collector for the Romans unless he repented and stopped being a tax collector. Pharisees in the Gospels are a euphemism for the Jerusalem church (because they separate from Paul and his Gentile followers). And the Jesus of the Gospels eats with sinners and tax collectors and is criticized by the "Pharisees" even as Paul was. The Jesus of Mark's Gospel is a Markan parable for Paul.
@Falco_perigee
@Falco_perigee 11 күн бұрын
Will u people kill the Messiah again? For his blood and belongings?
@ezekielsaltar4728
@ezekielsaltar4728 6 ай бұрын
The imagery of blood, sprinkling, without blemish or spot, outside the camp, etc. relates more to the sacrifice of the Red Heifer than any other sacrificial imagery. Blood and life can be used interchangeably because of the Torah admonishment that "the life is in the blood", which is why it should not be eaten. Therefore Jesus' blood = Jesus' death, Jesus did not bleed to death.
@jackalenterprisesofohio
@jackalenterprisesofohio Ай бұрын
Also that part about "painting" lamb's blood on the doorway during the last 12 plagues for Egypt.
@madddog7
@madddog7 6 ай бұрын
sooo .. how is this jesus cult different from say .. the aztecs wrt blood?
@lukasmakarios4998
@lukasmakarios4998 6 ай бұрын
Brave question. How much do you know about the Aztec religion? And then you need to study Christianity well enough to see the difference. Don't expect others to do your studies for you. That's PhD. level work. Go for it.
@madddog7
@madddog7 6 ай бұрын
@@lukasmakarios4998 are you shaming me? 😲 Don't know aztec religion very well 'cept that they had gods and they hacked out hearts and tossed sacrifices into cenotes. Raised catholic but no longer a cathoholic. They (rcc) like Sacré-Coeurs, bloody wine, washing in blood, etc. Both are blood-based wrt sins and sucking-up to their gods. Tell me more.
@dr-johngy-brongen
@dr-johngy-brongen 6 ай бұрын
My first association exactly. Both revered blood as the main source of life and both made sacrifices to appease their deities
@JayDee-x2b
@JayDee-x2b 3 ай бұрын
Yeasty Pharisee Saul
@dannyhuskerjay
@dannyhuskerjay 21 күн бұрын
It sounds like the original Jerusalem church was . Judaism but Jesus version. Jesus fixed what the scribes and Pharisees misinterpreted. His faith was to follow his teachings which are the truth Torah and to have faith in him as messiah who will save you from death. I think his death and resurrection was seen to the church in Jerusalem more as a “preaching to the dead” as we see in gospel of Hebrews and peter . Kind of a believe in me and you shall rise , and those that slepts spirits did rise. So it seems you should keep the Torah outside of sacrifice (the didache makes it easier to understand) do everything through Jesus the messiah as he is the one who will save you from death. I think Paul couldn’t understand why Jesus would choose to die. Paul’s upbringing as a Pharisee maybe had him come to the conclusion that his death was the true sacrifice to end sacrifice. When really it was a choice to preach to the dead so they may live again (a conquering of death) So faith in Jesus and Torah/Didache observing with ritual baptism saves you.
@Eclectifying
@Eclectifying 6 ай бұрын
What were all those animal sacrifices doing in the Old Testament, then?
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