Watch before you buy: 28mm 1.5 Voigtlander Nokton vs. 28mm 1.4 Thypoch Simera

[@michaellin4652]

Thank you for reuploading without the background music. Really appreciate this!

[@GenericPhotographer]

No problem, I found it better without it as well!

[@HenleyBailey]

I had the Voigtlander but then loved the look of the Thypoch at 1.4 so did a swaparoo. I've been so impressed with my Thypoch 28mm 1.4 (currently 6-bit coded to a Summicron 28mm), wide open it produces a really nice magical feel, it has great character in my opinion. I loved the Voigtlander look, feel and size but it's a small compromise with the Thypoch being slightly larger for the images I'm getting back from it. I believe the parent company of Thypoch either does or has another brand that makes cinematic (is that the right word) lenses and that would make a lot of sense as to why the Simera 28mm has an almost filmic look to it. Love it, I'll be keeping my eye on Thypoch and am also tempted by their new 50mm collapsible. :)

[@Malick333]

When I got an M10R the first lens I bought was the Thypoch 28mm …. Because I was coming from a Q2 with the 1.7 28. Super impressed.

[@GenericPhotographer]

They punch way above their weight with regards to price and performance, the 28mm is no slouch and a joy to use. Enjoy!

[@davidbrighten2572]

Thanks Andrew - for Canadians, the price difference favours the Voigtlander. I checked the Camtec website and when factoring in USD exchange and shipping for the Thypoch, the Voigtlander wins - especially considering size and weight. Considering ordering from Camtec.

[@antoniolabayen8288]

Well done, to the point, impartial, thank you. I like the Thypoch for character now that you've reviewed it. I do have the Voigtlander aspherical 35 & 50 mm lenses, and they're great for precision and landscape. But for character, I have the 50mm Summicron V2 DR (M4), 50mm Sonnar, 35mm Summaron, 25mm Biogon, plus a few others.

[@GenericPhotographer]

Glad you found it helpful and great collection! The 35mm 2.8 Summaron is one of my all time favorite lenses. The ASPH Voigtlanders are great but they can get too clinical for some applications. Thanks for the comment!

[@antoniolabayen8288]

@@GenericPhotographer I actually tested the 28mm Summaron. It was a fantastic lens, sharp yet very subtle, compared to my Leica X-U Summilux which was harsh. But I couldn't live with the f5.6 aperture and I had to support another filter size 34mm for it, since I shoot an M246 Monochrom. So, the 35mm Summaron was a great alternative. I have lenses with 39mm, 46mm, 49mm (Voigtllander ASPH) filter sizes, so I already have those 3 cases in my bag, except I use the 39mm only for my M4 lenses.

[@GenericPhotographer]

@@antoniolabayen8288 i went through a very similar process when considering the 28 summaron. I enjoyed the lens but I couldn’t really get past the 5.6 aperture. The 35 2.8 is every bit as exciting to use and feels like a speed demon by being two stops quicker.

[@looppp]

Great video man. Love your chill vibes and no useless stuff. Also love the dog cameo!!

[@davidbrighten2572]

Hi Andrew, thanks to your video reviews I just purchased the Voigtlander 28mm F1.5 from Camtec. I ordered the silver brass version. I received it today (I’m in Ottawa) and it is lovely on my M11-P. I let Camtec know you were the inspiration and they included a lovely Leica hat with my order. Thanks for all your videos. Looking forward to you reviewing the Voigtlander 50mm F2.2 when it becomes available.

[@GenericPhotographer]

Hey David, so glad to hear that you had a great experience with Camtec! Thank you for mentioning me and enjoy that lens! See you around!

[@GastonShutters]

Great breakdown. I own three VL 28 and 35 f1.5 and while I haven’t shot the Thypoc the size form factor and weight is what seals the deal to me. Great image quality at a fraction of the Leica price and I’m questioning myself more and more why spend a lot more money going Leica when in some cases you don’t get the same multiple of quality or benefit.

[@dlyon9673]

Thank you for this interesting, informative video. I like your dog and the background painting! I couldn't decide which to buy so I bought both figuring I'd sell one, and like you, I like them both, very nice images and a pleasure to use. I still have to decide which one to sell -- aaargh! But the good thing is, just as you said, both are very nice.

[@jpm5205]

Great review Andrew. Love my Thypoch 28mm.

[@GenericPhotographer]

Glad to hear! Thanks for watching!

[@ngterry9653]

Between voigtlander 28mm f1.5 type I and type II, silver vs black, this is a tough decision. I chose the 35mm f1.5 type II black paint for it small size and compactness not too much weight, but I can't decide on the 28mm. 28mm f1.5 is larger and heavier than the 35mm.

[@xmanreturn]

Thanks for the comparison!

[@GenericPhotographer]

Thanks for watching!

[@johnmunro4487]

For the size and the fact you can get a brass version, I bought the Voightlander- but I also have a number of 7 Artisans black mist filters to use on it, so I think it should be able to achieve the more cine look using the filters and not have to deal with the Thypochs poorer ergonomics. Both lenses are amazing though... good times!

[@vanandpillai9424]

Which would you say works very well with film? Thank you for this !

[@michaellin4652]

Hi Andrew. Mike Chudley (another photographer on this platform) mentioned in his video that Thypoch in the future will be releasing infinity lock-less versions of the 28mm. Are you able to confirm this as well? The ones without inifity lock right now are the ones in non-M mount. I'm very curious to know if they have indeed decided to make a lock-less version of the M mount lens, too.

[@MadshGrappling]

I'm also curious about this. It's basically the only thing holding me back from just buying one right away.

[@mhaustria]

great comparison. Thanks!

[@geoffreyinniss6036]

Andrew, did you use a lens profile for the Thypoch if so which one?

[@GenericPhotographer]

No lens profile applied at all, which is really remarkable

[@dhaug]

With the Thypoch I'd be a little concerned with the distance scale, and it's potential to be an entry point for moisture and dust.

[@GenericPhotographer]

Apparently it’s sealed off according to someone who took theirs apart.

[@cameraprepper7938]

From 45 years of experience I have learned that 28 and 50mm focal length for full frame sensor Cameras (24x36mm), they are more or less useless, they always seems either too long or too short, clumsy ! Now I use 21mm (sometimes 24mm), 35mm and 55, 65 or 85mm Lenses, basically any Lens shorter or longer than 28 and 50mm !

[@webersteve1547]

What I like on the Voightländer is that you can buy it in brass/black paint and chrome. If Typoch will offer such variants I might buy one

[@liamrjf]

Who did the paint on the m10?

[@GenericPhotographer]

I swapped it for a black paint top plate

[@kristiansedlacek]

@@GenericPhotographerM10R BP Top plate ❤

[@darkchocolate4643]

1:27 Montreal? :)

[@GenericPhotographer]

Yuup, the plateau more specifically

[@darkchocolate4643]

@@GenericPhotographer I'm from Belgium, but I'm a big fan of Montreal. Good to see that my photographic memory still works. :) (PS: Let me know if you're running a little low on water today and I'll send some your way--in exchange for a dozen sesame bagels from St Viateur, of course.)

[@peter1820]

Great quality but without autofocus it's really a big issue

[@cmphoto_]

It’s a Leica M lens, of course it has no autofocus.

[@bradl2636]

Leica and Cosina have been making lenses for decades and we can certainly say they are reliable and well made. Thypoch has been selling lenses for a year? Way too soon to say they are producing quality product. Who knows what quality helicoid grease they are using? There are also good reasons why most manufacturers don't drill holes in helicoid sleeves for DoF scales. I might check resale values on Thypoch in 10 years. The Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron is the best for Leica M it certainly beats the Summicron and the Elmarit. The Zeiss Distagon is pretty awesome too. Sharp enough isn't good enough on a wide angle lens.

[@mynewcolour]

I’m in the market for a fast 28mm M mount and I couldn’t help thinking during this review that the Ultron f2 is probably more the lens for me. The size (and voigtlander ergonomics - which I like) appeal.

[@bradl2636]

@@mynewcolour The VM Ultron is the best 28mm for M mount IMHO... certainly the best IQ/value.

[@devroombagchus7460]

What has this dog have to do with 28mm lenses?

[@AminTheMystic]

Model

[@GenericPhotographer]

Rangefinder calibration test subject 👀

[@looppp]

Everything

[@garychen7000]

Pinocchio's Lies

[@cameraprepper7938]

I think it is so stupid to talk about how "cool" camera gear looks, it is a TOOL !

[@javierRcastro]

Why are you miserable

[@cameraprepper7938]

@@javierRcastro I am NOT, I am very practical, I am not a "gucci" type ! You mustbe miserable !!!