Watch Live: WI v. Darrell Brooks - Waukesha Parade Defendant - Pretrial Hearing

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[@regulator5]

She's doing this to avoid him filing for a retrial based on not knowing his rights and the charges against him. She did a great job being patient to avoid his theatrics getting him another trial.

[@Arimmus]

I think that is what he is going for. He is going for some sort of incompetence defense or strategy. It will fail.

[@NoQuarterIsHere]

“Theatrics” perfect description.

[@shanejohns7901]

He admitted to not knowing what a criminal complaint is, yet believes he would be best served defending himself against a State-brought criminal complaint against him. He literally doesn't know what he's signing up for or committing himself TO. I think she'd be best to deny his motion to protect him from himself. However, I am not sure that's enough for her to make that decision. Arguments can be made against whichever path she takes now, as a judge. And it's really whether or not the Appeals Court believes he should be able to represent himself given his stated ignorance of what a criminal complaint EVEN IS. So maybe she has the appeals court judges on speed dial, or maybe she's going to try to 'divine' what they will say in this matter. They're either going to have to deny him his right to defend himself, OR they're going to have to let him defend himself and play games for a little while longer. In my mind, he has the right to 'adequate' representation. He's inadequate by his own statements.

[@swtswtjane]

Can he appeal a conviction on the basis of ineffective counsel if he waives his right to counsel? No way, right?

[@nickmalone3143]

@@swtswtjane ignorance of the is not a defense

[@taniawhelan3356]

This judge is amazing. She is so patient and respectful in such a difficult situation.

[@m1ssjuju]

"I do not understand until my question is answered" Who the heck even thinks of such words to say in court, esp to a judge.

[@lisasteigerwald6033]

I feel bad for every person who has had to deal with him throughout his life.

[@Kozykingjames225]

Any person that ever dealt with him left with less than what they started with. Hes a taker.

[@1eyejackffs934]

I would love to have heard the conversation between his defense lawyers after they left the courtroom that day.

[@randyg.1836]

Oh sweet mother of mercy...🙄😳🙄 this is going to be more than a one bag of popcorn type of trial. Kudos to the sitting judge for her patience.

[@angelajohannsen8662]

Lmao.. seriously I totally agree

[@allisonjames2923]

Wow. I thought Attorney Zachary Witchow was way more experienced as a prosecutor & trial attorney. He’s extremely good at what he does. Especially how he listens to the cross examination, doesn’t take many if any notes, and yet is on point with every single follow-up question & presents exactly the right exhibit at the right timing to illustrate his point.

[@Kiki-Kauai]

I also thought he was world class. Powerful opening!

[@Materialgirl_3]

I’m not being silly but do you know anyone who works for the d.a? My oldest child’s father works for the d.a and although he is certainly older and has more experience I can assure you that not just anyone will be hired to be a d.a. He has to have at the bare minimum 4-6 yrs of trial experience. What I’m saying is he’s far from a brand new or inexperienced lawyer

[@nekoboy56]

Zach reminds me of an old western gunslinger.

[@teresahartling2465]

It's HILARIOUS that he says very proudly that he can comprehend, but at sentencing he says he has a problem comprehending!! LOL!!

[@PaladinLarec]

I'm getting aggravated just listening to him say "I don't understand"...so I can only imagine how frustrated the poor judge is.

[@tj6930]

Nooooo he “does NOT” understand. 😂😂 quote this jenius poperlee. 😏

[@auntieambmiracleb2]

It hasn't disappointed

[@agy234]

“Mr Brooks are you aware you are sentenced to life in prison”

[@SB-uz8mg]

The defense attorney's sitting back, watching this train wreck. I can only imagine how relieved they were to be withdrawn.

[@emmajars58]

It’s a weird contradiction to claim to be a sovereign citizen but also cling to and hold onto your rights under the constitution

[@bsrvvr8446]

What's he's doing is about control. He already knows no matter what he's going to spend life behind bars, wether he represents himself or not. This is him stalling and finding ways he can be in control and it's just pathetic. No remorse for anything. Lock him up and throw away the key.

[@lionxwarrior3004]

He's already locked up as his attire indicates, he isn't going anywhere.

[@doctordoctor7813]

@@lionxwarrior3004 there is a big difference between county jail & the state penitentiary when speaking of being “locked up”

[@lionxwarrior3004]

@@doctordoctor7813 he is definitely going to get promoted to the big League, it's just a matter of time.

[@robpash2204]

No way! I’m not throwing away a perfectly good key! Motion denied!

[@abbyynorman2874]

@@lionxwarrior3004 Last act of defiance - Some Men ya just can’t reach

[@mattmatt7800]

This judge is good. She doesn't want it to be an easy appeal for him once he is found guilty. She is very smart.

[@nettejohnson7492]

Whilst he says he understands, his responses suggest otherwise. The Judge needs to order an evaluation and let the mental health experts determine if this defendant is competent enough to defend himself in a manner that is subject to the rules and procedures of the court to adjudicate this case for trial. Apparently it's not a death penalty case for 6 counts of 1st degree intentional homicide in this state and should be imo.

[@tammyks4881]

We do not have the death penalty here in Wisconsin anymore. It was permanently abolished way back in 1853. I wish we did have it though for cases like this punk!

[@TheMainLead]

@@nettejohnson7492 nope, much better he spends the rest of his life in a box.

[@ds2465]

@@TheMainLead You mean a box with wifi, food, tv, beds, gyms? Delusional.

[@DebiJo]

She is WAY smarter than he THINKS he is.

[@melissabrown19902]

The spinning in the chair is absolutely giving little boy trying to talk his way out of trouble with his mom with semantics

[@cookielady9995]

He is purposely trying to cause confusion to be a trouble maker.

[@spicyirwin5835]

Maybe he is a confused soul hence the murders. So he is pleading NOT GUILTY when we all know he did it. The man who fed him a sandwich thinking he was homeless & gave him his jacket to stay warm is WHO I WANT TO SEE! That's WWJD!

[@earthmagic1]

@@spicyirwin5835This guy doesn't have a soul.

[@FrozenHaxor]

"To confuse your enemy, first confuse yourself". - Sun Tzu

[@gypsy412]

Cookie - I’m wondering if he’s subtlety trying to claim he’s incompetent to stand trial…lol but idK that law🤷🏼‍♀️

[@juniorlipscomb5030]

@@gypsy412 that’s what I’m thinking. But I would think a licensed mental health professional would be the only one to make that determination and not this defendant.

[@lisasteigerwald6033]

You can see the thought process of his lawyers lol “please don’t deny his motion to dismiss us”

[@CypherDND]

This monster is so ridiculously infuriating. He knows what he is doing, he thinks magic words will get him out on appeal. Its so frustrating to see him try to cheat justice and waste everyone's time.

[@FM19MONTH]

Yes to all. POS

[@msannthrope1863]

He’s trying to gaslight an entire city.

[@PBthesquirrel]

@@msannthrope1863 the entire state of Wisconsin

[@msannthrope1863]

@@PBthesquirrel True

[@MimiDidi121]

Hi I won hundred percent agree that he knows what he’s doing, but isn’t he playing a risky game? With these answers that he doesn’t understand the simplest of statements by the judge, looks like it would be grounds for her to deny his request to represent himself. At this point I think he still believes he can represent himself and have standby counsel to help him with the legal questions. She has made it abundantly clear that you either have an attorney to represent you or you don’t! You have no access to an attorney other than the jail house attorneys who have given him horrible horrible horrible advice all the way through this trial.

[@Florabama70]

Could you even imagine trying to train him to do a job,, giving feedback or being his boss, OMG.

[@benjaminmordecai7374]

As his boss I would be thankful for diversity, which is clearly America's greatest strempf

[@likemy]

gonna go out on a limb and say the 40y/o soundcloud rapper driving his mother's car has never had one of those.

[@FM19MONTH]

@likemy safely I can say, going out on a limb won't at all be necessary. All you have to do is look at the tree and you will be correct. Worthless POS he is.

[@honey6571]

that's why he's unemployed

[@GeekyCandi]

Also, it's important to note the power struggle here...not at the surface, but at a deeper level. He is getting off on having the Judge, a perceived person of power, bend to his questions and non answers. He makes it go as long as possible before he gives in any, simply to have those blips of power he wants to feel in this situation. If he perceives they do not see him in that position of power, he then throws Latin legal phrases out to make him feel he's back on their playing field....even if the phrases are obviously irrelevant to the questions being asked. He does not want to lose power. That's why he wants to represent himself, and bait this judge as long as he possibly can. After this moment in the spotlight, he has nothing and knows it.

[@GeekyCandi]

The real show will be when he has his audience. When all the grieving family and friends fill the court, his sole objective is for them to see him still having power....(another reason for self representation) despite everything he took away from them. He wants that more than anything else. It's not enough to do the crime, it's about the continual gratification they get seeing the ones they hurt still in a state of pain because of them.

[@kathieann9660]

He knows he’s going away for life and this trial will be his “going out in a blaze of glory!”

[@sherireedy329]

SO TRUE

[@abebuckingham8198]

I think he's just paranoid about the establishment. Lots of that going around in the US these days.

[@heavennow1807]

Very interesting comment!

[@kellijanssen1171]

Sovereign citizens don’t think they are ever wrong about anything and think they are above the law. He is just playing games prolonging the process.

[@redflagjournalism]

What Is a sovereign citizen ?

[@loverainthunder]

What does he even mean by sovereign citizen? Having a terrible personality?

[@agy234]

@@redflagjournalism they believe they’re not bound by the laws of the us

[@annemurphy8074]

Malignant narcissist/sociopath.

[@uberian22]

@@redflagjournalism crazy people. They believe some crackpot legal theories that make absolutely no sense that somehow justify them being able to break the law. You tend to see them mostly in dash cam videos of traffic stops.

[@harrymccallum1226]

This guy is a piece of work just lock him up he knows exactly what's going on ,wow the patience of the judge

[@britannybrumley7364]

It's like arguing with a toddler

[@conniemckay9981]

Poor judge and legal team. It's going to be a painful process. He's ridiculous.

[@Anonymous-lj2os]

Yes. Let’s share a country with these people. What could go wrong.

[@newvocabulary]

It's all so tiresome...

[@virginiaknighten4687]

Exactly!

[@rosemariej6171]

This is how ALL "Sovren Citizens" behave to anyone who holds authority granted to them by any governmental/constitutional

[@VeryLowSpermCounts]

I hope by these people you mean criminals right?

[@robpash2204]

Agreed. If it wasn’t for The Other, we could eliminate sharing all together.

[@dawnhayes1231]

I think his attorneys were begging her with their eyes to let them go! What a waste and disrespect to the court!

[@BTyeful]

That judge was much too patient. She was so good. Those poor lawyers. That was a disaster.

[@briane173]

No mystery as to why they want to withdraw.

[@kevingallagher2386]

He has that "be patient with me" look. Guarantee she wouldn't be that patient with you

[@Kira_Terpsichore]

@@briane173 the withdraw request was filed because the defendant insisted to his attorneys that he wanted to represent himself, it wasn’t because his attorneys themselves requested to withdraw (although I’m sure that they were both hoping by some miracle that the judge would grant the request, but also knew that there was no chance that it would even be a possibility)

[@elvisneedsboats3714]

@@Kira_Terpsichore There was an implication that they wouldn’t use sov cit tactics and file his nonsense sov cit motions. A real attorney doing that stuff would face sanctions because they know it’s all b.s. They can’t claim to interpret laws differently than the courts (including the Supreme Court) and expect to retain their law license.

[@tawnilanae19811]

The judge is repeating herself and explaining everything as best she can so there isn’t an easy appeal. He will most likely try and claim he didn’t get a fair trial and didn’t understand the charges so he can get a retrial, appeal approval or some other crap.

[@beewalk34]

Just when we thought we couldn't hate this guy anymore...

[@cielomcmeekin7296]

Seriously!! 😒 UGH

[@missybrewer423]

Oh my gosh I wanted to jump through the phone!

[@timstalla8575]

So sad for the family's affected by this yoyo.

[@loverainthunder]

Agreed. He's a nightmare.

[@candacem6932]

Please get this guy a stationary chair so he can't swivel anymore

[@joegeorge3889]

I'm getting dizzy

[@Don-lf9ku]

I would suggest an electric chair. So he can't anything anymore.

[@npbandmilo]

This is so painful to watch. This Judge is doing a fantastic job breaking things down patiently and refocusing him. This type of behavior/attitude is what many teachers have to deal with all across America. We need to start front loading our society with support by including self awareness "therapy" for students K5-12th grade. Life and emotions are complex. America needs to set kids up for success and we won't have so many broken adults!

[@ellen9925]

Yes yes yes

[@shdwctchr]

That judge is doing great! Restating her questions very smart!!! Patient as all get out! Good for her!! Hope he gets the max penalty for all his offenses!! Keep those lawyers you’re going to need them!

[@alyciaItalia]

This clown just wants to put on a show… This Judge has the patience of a saint

[@lishal1625]

Every person in that courtroom (besides the sovereign citizen of course) had to have gotten a massage, overly imbibed, taken relaxants, demolished a punching bag, and/or soaked in a hot bath after their day. The level of professionalism and patience each of them exhibited is outstanding.

[@allisonjames2923]

And had to repeat all those measures to stay sane throughout the entire trial as he has become more & more difficult. Interesting that his acting out increased significantly as the trial got closer to starting. He settled down at the start of the trial & as it got closer to him having to present his defence his acting out is amping up again. Just a spoilt, bratty, petulant yet very evil child in the body of a man

[@Feral_Phoenix]

This is EXCRUCIATING!!!

[@yvonne5252]

He thought he could have his cake and eat it too, he wanted to control everything and still have legal assistance in place, another person who lives in a world of 'all about me world'.

[@andrewschmitt5372]

I can only imagine what is going through the defense attorneys heads sitting next to him. Embarrassment, anger and finally relief when they are dismissed.

[@Justcallmerita]

I know this judge just went through all of this to make sure the defendant doesn't appeal on the grounds that the judge allowed him to represent himself WHEN he loses his case, but WOW!

[@rosemariej6171]

Exactly

[@tj6930]

She’s a hero.

[@averyshenan958]

She’s allowed him to act like the animal he is and no one else would get away with that and we all know why he’s allowed to! Has zero to do with that cause that’s not an excuse to act like that everyday In court! Oh are u going to behave today or not? Ummm no u will or else

[@eljeffe58]

Brutal for the judge to deal with his legal right to continue trying to misdirect her.

[@regulator5]

Sovereign citizen = I want to do bad things and find nonsense reasons why I didn't do anything wrong.

[@WillLovesChris]

The $100 DV assessment has him asking questions, but he didn't bat an eye regarding the murder charges. Clown.

[@MochaPony]

Take away his spinning chair please.

[@sandrablosser9888]

Yes

[@Truth1561]

Messing with the court and having fun. Someone please just take him round the back of the court and give him the same treatment he gave all those victims 😡

[@katherinealdgate4721]

It’s scary to think that his demeanour and attitude are probably being watched by some who will admire him and think “gee, I wouldn’t mind being seen on camera arguing with a judge”.

[@blackgarmentbag7482]

A rope. A tree. A horse.

[@cathylavorante6871]

The ending of this lol. His attorneys didn’t even look at him. Did you notice the Attorney Perry looked like he was just broken for a second, staring into space. I can’t imagine how hard it was for them.

[@kellijanssen1171]

It’s terrible she has to let him play his game so he can’t appeal.

[@brgodding1959]

This judge has the patience of a saint. Dealing with this defendant.

[@nickmalone3143]

The guy is so thick . Its amazing he could drive a car

[@grlfcgombeenhunter2897]

Should be strung up

[@Lori_in_CT]

It’s not going to go well if he doesn’t understand why WI is the plaintiff. The whole state is against you buddy. Yep.

[@lynnrobert6206]

Get judge Judy in there. She will tear his face off

[@leolyon2373]

What an unmitigated monster. Oh excuse me... He is the "victim" Thanks for having the integrity by streaming this.

[@e.manuelle]

I've read several comments and I can't add a thing to what has already been said...everyone has such valid points in what they have seen and heard thus far!!! The Only thing I can say is "that I feel very sad for every professional in this courtroom!" The Judge, each Attorney, each Staff person, each Deputy. I even feel sad for the walls! I really haven't the adequate words. Just feel so sorry for all of them...not to mention all the people/victims awaiting justice!

[@itsnotthatserious9871]

The walls 😂💀

[@scapedebate3730]

I am visiting from the future, three weeks from this session. I wanted to see when he still had representation.

[@Lori_in_CT]

Patience is a virtue I do not possess. The judge is a saint. I might have to shut this off. Dude you drove your car intentionally into a crowd and killed and injured people.

[@robpash2204]

I am also interested in evidence of intention, but worried that we may not get the answer to the question that plagues us all: Why did he do this?

[@barbaracheatham692]

Motive is not an issue….that has to be proven. Intent became apparent when he did not stop after running over the first person.

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

I really wish she did what the judge in the Rise of the Moors case did. They refused to say they understand. The judge took that to mean they didn't understand and and she denied self representation.

[@kjh6903]

Killer : I don’t understand. That’s why you need a lawyer fool . Enjoy prison .

[@KB-xd5wq]

This guy is crazy....amazing that he was out in the public....

[@mea1831]

Crazy like a fox.

[@missssophisicated6742]

He's playing the system..

[@parametalhead]

@@missssophisicated6742 yup. He knows exactly what he’s doing

[@parametalhead]

My man is trolling the whole system. He knows he’s cooked and wants to drag this circus out as long as he can. This is his 15 minutes. He is playing a little power game with the judge. It’ll be nice to see him go down.

[@selyts4]

The absolute arrogance of this guy is mind boggling! He is obviously playing a game with this judge. First acting like he doesn’t understand anything, then act as if he’s appalled that the judge would doubt his education level! “I’m a Sovereign Citizen and want to represent myself.” Judge-“ What does that mean to you?” “It means I am bat$hit crazy and I have a fool for a client!”😂

[@GetBlackWitMe]

OMG, he believes that "proving" himself a "sovereign citizen" will keep him from going to jail. Crazy

[@CricketsMa]

This judge is a saint! The defendant’s obstructive behavior only prolongs the agony, and in the end, will not help him. He shouldn’t be allowed to represent himself.

[@lionxwarrior3004]

@Suzanne I want him to represent himself, it's a guaranteed slam dunk for the prosecution and he will make a total fool of himself.

[@Kingsaginaw29]

The patience of the judge is amazing

[@hellnowewontgo]

attorney beside him,"please let me out of this"🙏

[@neilspiring1498]

this guy should just go sit in jail, he is wasting the courts time

[@jonathancortez5179]

This isn't a vulnerable woman he can prey on and manipulate, this woman is an educated, intelligent and experienced judge

[@HellsCanyonGirl]

I can’t wait to see him represent himself! I feel for this poor judge. It’s gonna be a battle.

[@regulator5]

Mark my words, because I've seen this before, she will admonish him over and over for trying to testify while he's asking questions of the witnesses. That is if she even lets him do this, she's trying to let him, but he's not playing ball and she can't let him say he doesn't understand and have a means of appeal. It's going to be interesting to see how this turns out.

[@CAUSELESSREBEL]

And in the end, he will go to jail for life.

[@rosemariej6171]

Me either. This should e VERY entertaining

[@earthreign]

You called it, after this case ends she's going to think about an early retirement.

[@elleinyyc]

I don't understand the nature or the cause of the Judge's infinite patience. I appreciate her calm, I'm yelling in my head :)

[@MichelleKavarnos]

YES!!!!

[@D1it4FN]

If she concedes abruptly to his request to represent himself she imperals the sanctity of the verdict. The small investment in time to make absolutely crystal clear to the defendant that he understands the ramifications will pay off at the end. She's like a surgeon encountering an unexpected complication.

[@elleinyyc]

@@D1it4FN rational people understand the ramifications. He is not going to admit to understanding. He is enjoying the attention and will not cede the spotlight. His playing ringmaster to the court puppets (in his mind) is so rewarding to him. Ultimately though, the gears continue to turn whether he complies or not.

[@Arminsaf2]

It’s called Due Process and it’s a right afforded to literally every citizen in America. And if you were ever wrongly arrested, charged, and convicted. You’ll be glad you had that right. Justice will be served, but it needs to follow a specific protocol. It’s people with higher intelligence who understood the ramifications of mob mentality and the lack of intelligence of the masses 😊

[@elleinyyc]

@@Arminsaf2 but he’s not a Citizen of America. He’s declaring himself a Sovereign Citizen. By definition he does not accept that the laws, authorities, or governing bodies apply to him. My point is, he’s going to drag this out and garner attention because he can. In my opinion, in a nutshell, he’s playing games and he’s making the court play them too. No panties need to get twisted, nobody is neglecting his right to due process but him. Maybe you should help his defence, they’re looking to be excused. 😂 jk all due respect personally for the legal process and you’re right its important.

[@quentinburns8298]

Yep. she is making sure that no court of appeal will be able to find that this guy was not aware of the ramifications of his decision. I suppose it's a matter of decorum but I kinda wish that she just would have said "do you understand that those 3 attorneys and their staff are going to do everything legally in their power to throw you in jail for the rest of your life and that you will be entirely on your own in preventing that from happening".

[@christina5kids16grands]

I LOVE how thorough she was with this hearing, leaving NO doubt that it was HIS desire to rep himself...and he buried himself completely.

[@MimiDidi121]

Except she still allowed him to be his own attorney. I’m worried about appeal! I really am because of his ridiculous word games!

[@heleneschmidt8419]

​@@MimiDidi121 don't worry - DB made so many errors during the trail - totally bad and disruptive behaviour - intimidating Judge - DA - Sheriffs Departments Detectives and other PO - experts - victims and widnesses.

[@ChrisSmith-xw7wv]

I honestly can’t believe we tolerate this type of clown behavior in a courtroom. Blows my mind.

[@True_Christian]

The reason why Brooks will *never* say "I understand" is because that is against Sovereign Citizen philosophy. They teach that it means you "stand under" their authority if you say that, which violates their basic beliefs.

[@m1ssjuju]

I had to search for this after rewatching the trial for a second time. I'm currently up to the closing statements and also jumped and watched the 50min rant by DB.. He definitely was walked through his challenges of defending himself greatly by the judge and prosecution. They made very sure he couldn't back step yet he attempted to try and say he should have been offered assistance at the bench and being so head strong on not having a lawyer represent him. I hope he watches himself on trial one day from start to finish and maybe see what a bafoon he was and possibly may still be...

[@heyhippie]

Jailhouse talk he doesn't even understand 🙄

[@michaelorleans5396]

Its called playing the system..he's doing it badly

[@calinasagilitypartner4444]

DB thinks he's the smartest person in the room. He's wrong. Judge is the smartest person in that room.

[@elvisneedsboats3714]

To a sov cit, “understand” means to “stand under” or to submit to the authority of the court or, alternately, to admit guilt. That’s why he keeps saying “aware”. The judge finally caught on to that. However, it won’t stop all his other sov cit nonsense, like pro per vs. pro se. He thinks if they agree to pro per, they are admitting he is “sovereign” and his sov cit b.s. will have to be recognized by the court. Like that’s going to happen.

[@agy234]

He seems like he uses it in both ways

[@tj6930]

I wondered if that had something to do with it? Thanks. Guess I need to learn more about this BS.

[@elvisneedsboats3714]

@@agy234 Yeah, sometimes he slips up and uses it the “normal” way. It’s hard to remember all the nonsense when you turn sov cit!

[@elvisneedsboats3714]

@@tj6930 There’s a whole universe of crazy out there and there are a lot of people who cover it. I like Van Balion, Tones Overthinks It and Marc Baggett, among others. For some even grander delusions, try Truth Science151, who covers the wacky world of the Moors, an offshoot of the sov cits. Most of what these folks cover are traffic stops and other low level issues. You don’t usually get anything like Darrell Brooks, thank goodness. But there are tons of people out there who are totally deluded about how life really works (“The Supreme Court says I don’t need a driver’s license!”). It’s entertaining but at the same time makes you despair for the future of our planet. Critical thinking is just a rare talent, apparently.

[@prumbuggel]

I know he is a POS but I wasn't and still am not very interested in his personal BS but do we know if he suddenly went sov cit or was it just convenient because he killed a bunch of people ?

[@christianblevins1870]

Man if ignorance of the law was a defense this guy would be walking free right now

[@abbyynorman2874]

If he remains “confused” she will deny motion to represent himself

[@sharongranger5860]

Go directly to jail! do not pass go do not collect $200😡🤬

[@vito774]

Those two lawyers are the luckiest people in 2022!

[@Arablmts69]

He is absolutely ridiculous.

[@goaliereids3523]

I love how the defendant tries to use semantics in using the wording of “aware” in lieu of “understand” in order to potentially try to file for a mistrial at a future point in time. The judge showed much more patience than most would have with a murderer before her playing games and delay tactics. The defendant states that “I will be better served without representation”… Grave mistake as he’s toast either way, but it’s not going to end well for him in this case, especially without counsel. Death penalty is definitely on the table and if I was juror, there would be no question on what I would decide…

[@shanejohns7901]

There is proto-Indo European evidence that "Under-Stand" is to stand beneath in observance of an authority's vested power over you. I am not bothered by his insistence on the use of 'aware' so long as it's a sufficient answer to the question being asked. Death Penalty is not on the Table unless you know something that I do not -- "Wisconsin is one of only 12 states which does not have the death penalty for murder and other serious crimes."

[@hoptoit5910]

@@shanejohns7901 I seriously doubt he knows that 🤣

[@hoptoit5910]

His refusing to say he understands something (in this case, he claims to not understand anything) isn’t helping him to be able to rep himself. He doesn’t understand that she’s asking what she is to determine if he’s capable of representing himself. His claiming to not understand the case, the charges and in his own words, the ‘cause’ of those charges isn’t going to get him what he wants. I don’t think he gets that if he represents himself, it’s *all* on him, it’s just him. Those lawyers, or any others for that matter, won’t be there for him *at all*

[@agy234]

@@shanejohns7901 except that no one, not even in a legal sense, uses the word in that way.

[@shanejohns7901]

@@agy234 Late 14c comes after mid-14c, yes? The US Supreme Court just underwent a shift in polarity, did it not? "Etymology 'UNDERSTAND': By mid-14c. as "to take as meant or implied (though not expressed); imply; infer; assume; take for granted." The intransitive sense of "have the use of the intellectual faculties; be an intelligent and conscious being" also is in late Old English. In Middle English also "reflect, muse, be thoughtful; imagine; be suspicious of; pay attention, take note; strive for; plan, intend; conceive (a child)." Also sometimes literal, "to occupy space at a lower level" (late 14c.) and, figuratively, "to submit." For "to stand under" in a physical sense, Old English had undergestandan."

[@Shannonontheroad]

This dude is going to make a circus of the case

[@susanswanson2253]

His attorneys are so over this and him!

[@agy234]

“Are you able to read that on your own sir?” 😂

[@PeasantWithaPitchfork]

A lawyer who represents himself, has a fool for a client...

[@Guys-Mom]

WOW Just WOW... WHAT THE H😡 HE Is A MONSTER That's All he is!!

[@cherylj7460]

“I do not understand the nature and cause of charges”. 6 counts of homicide with a dangerous weapon! He’s tiresome.

[@farmerx165]

it was also a hate crime. which are happening more everyday

[@nickmalone3143]

I urge to strangle is strong

[@laurahayes8382]

I had students just like this in middle school!

[@CWebb-yr7vc]

That was my first thought- teachers deal with this kind of behavior all of the time.

[@williamerdman4888]

uh.... that was elementary school

[@parametalhead]

@@williamerdman4888 no middle school. He literally said it

[@rachberrill7299]

I could never be a teacher 😅

[@maryfitzpatrick3252]

🤮delaying foot dragging obstructing defendant. Game player. Word twister.Efforts to control courtroom obnoxious. 🎪 Circus 🎪 circus 🎪 and chaos is his goal.

[@cjharris3680]

Now that it's over, he was the type of defendant representing himself that Justice Blackmun predicted in his dissent in Faretta v California. Blackmun concluded with the following: "If there is any truth to the old proverb 'one who is his own lawyer has a fool for a client,' the Court by its opinion today now bestows a constitutional right on one to make a fool of himself." Fortunately, the Faretta decision also ruled that he cannot appeal based on ineffective counsel.

[@MReaganDavis]

And this is costing taxpayers how much? I’m sure his attorneys are silently begging the judge to grant his request. And I’m also sure he had a good, long, belly laugh when he got back to jail…if he could wait that long.

[@HB-ey2dk]

This little hearing alone cost taxpayers at least $10k.

[@joegeorge3889]

He just trying to aggravate everyone he knows the outcome

[@cjskayakfishing6108]

My man was really upset about that $100 payment for a domestic violence assessment. Of everything, that sure seemed to hit home and bother him.

[@Stordyr]

I have followed the trial so far and will do that. He is absolute aware, what he has done. He just denies that any of this applies to him because he's claming that there are no charges. And no, he is not a souvereign citizen. He is just prentending to be as he hopes to delay

[@fxontv]

I don’t understand what he is saying, but I’m aware.

[@SuperKingtoy]

WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS JUDGE? Absolve it to his council because he clearly understands English and clearly understands the premise.

[@Alexp36500]

If the jury doesn't come back with a verdict tomorrow I will be upset. He is guilty with intent. He needs to spend his life in jail. He is not safe to be in society. I don't say that often. I don't like jails, I don't like solitary, BUT he is truly a narcissist and a danger to everyone including his own kids. Also the only time I wished the guards would rough someone up. He's probably their worst inmate.

[@virginiaknighten4687]

“Did you f**king hear me!”

[@faerychild29]

I hate him so much.

[@ttcross7175]

If this is how he does things the entire trial which I will watch it's going to take forever to finish it I just I can't believe what I'm hearing I really can't

[@KG-eb4vl]

I love the judge tho. She’s smart. I love how she adopted the word aware so that he couldn’t use it as a loophole.

[@LegendLength]

i'm surprised sharpton didn't give this one a crack

[@AlternateKek]

This dude snould rot in prison

[@nickmalone3143]

Gotta ask him if he know whos in charge at the prison ?