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[@froknowsphoto]

If money were no object would you still buy this lens? Or even if you had the money would you want to wait until Canon had a REAL PRO MIRRORLESS BODY?

[@KoenKooi]

Jared Polin I’ve rented it this week and like it very much. With no RF 85/1.8 our there and money being no object, yes I’d buy it.

[@manishkc5406]

What would be difference in between 50mm f1.2 and 85mm f1.2?

[@ashleyyandell3532]

@@manishkc5406 the focal length. So if you stand in the same spot the 50mm will show more than the 85mm. 50mm is also considered a natural focal length as it is quite close to what the human eye sees.

[@manishkc5406]

@@ashleyyandell3532 is there any difference in bokeh?

[@GarrettLucasWV]

The new primes look fantastic but I think the jury is still out on who is going to really bring home the bacon with a pro body. Nikon has some great primes now as well. For me, it's all going to come down to the bodies. Meanwhile, I'll keep shooting with the D850, 1 DX II and the E-M1 MK II until one of the big three are ready for prime time.

[@KnifeWrench3]

You should update some of these videos now that the R3, R5, and R6 exist. Would love to hear your thoughts a bit more.

[@markusvuori]

I won't buy a $2700 lens but I'm still watching this

[@lomaryearwood3079]

True

[@milanmedek3555]

I don't have and won't have Canon and watching it too

[@Koi-Koi-Koi]

me too.... Today I would like to have the absolutely new RF 85mm F1.2 L USM DS ...the lense and DS is amazing great - BUT Canon's prices for this one and other RF lenses are nevertheless true madness !!! sorry!! Do they want rich people as customers only? kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZrVZoxqipVsfdk

[@i.p.knightly149]

My house is barely worth $2700.

[@cjonwickham1933]

Sony high end lenses just as par expensive. I won't do sony...not universal color science no flip screen smaller bodies confusing nontouch menu...not as wide selection of lenses. Nikon is now sony wannabee...panasonic and fuji just old school. Sigma and tamron and samyang are great. I hear sony a7iv delayed no headphone cheap lcd doubt flip touch screen and shutter protector.

[@MarkWebbPhotography]

I went from the 85 f/1.2 II to the Sigma 85 Art then the 85 1.4L IS, all are great lenses but the RF 85 blows them away. I put them all side by side in a comparison and the RF has the sharpest subject and smoothest backgrounds. The 85 f/1.2 II is the slowest and has the least contrast of all. I completely agree with Jared here, working pros will want this RF lens and I’ll be selling the others. I’ve been nailing more shots at my weddings and I can make nice crops from full body shots where needed. I’ve yet to see any fringing on the wedding dresses, jewelry, or in backlit situations which are difficult to fix sometimes, especially in rain shots at night with a light behind the subjects. I’ve shot at least 15,000 shots on this lens so far and the weight isn’t too bad, feels the same as the Sigma ART.

[@nordic5490]

most reviewers are not using Canon lenses as Canin engineers intended. Canon intended that Canons dpp lens correction tool is used in post. My verion 1 85mm f1.2 looks beautifull when Canons dpp is used, as was always intended by Canon. The bokeh is buttery smooth - better than the series 2.

[@nikonmark37814]

You need to do a video!

[@MrGflan]

Mark Webb I love the 85mm f 1.2 II lens. I was actually using it for dog sports indoors. Do you think the canon 85mm f 1.4 has much better autofocus? You can imagine my indoor action struggles with the 85 1.2. Is the 1.4 that much better and worth it for sports? Thanks

[@RossJukesPhotography]

As a working photographer, I appreciate how good these lenses are and as a business owner, I appreciate how much R&D, material costs, manufacturing costs are etc... But nearly three grand!!! I don't think I'll be getting oner any time soon...

[@77dris]

Lenses are just getting WAY too ridiculously expensive. I remember when the Canon 70-200/ f2.8 L and 24-70/2.8 L were the top of the line and cost about $1000 - $1300 brand new.

[@edrader]

NOT WHEN FIRST RELEASED

[@YahDude]

Ever hear of inflation?

[@edrader]

@@YahDude apparently his wages missed that trend

[@gimiked8685]

​@@YahDude Well that and they are better lenses usually. They have more tech put into them and they resolve better, have less aberrations, and have better focus motors usually. But not to diminish the inflation point that is the bulk of the prices going up. I am just glad we have Sigma and Tamron making great alternatives like my Tamron 28-75 2.8 for my Sony FF. And my Sigma 18-35 1.8 for my gh5 system. Both great lenses that were around 700-800 bucks instead of the over 2 grand some of the new lenses are coming out at.

[@Koi-Koi-Koi]

Today I would like to have the new RF 85mm F1.2 L USM DS ...the lense and DS is amazing great - BUT Canon's prices for this one and other RF lenses are nevertheless true madness !!! sorry!! Do they want rich people as customers only? kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZrVZoxqipVsfdk

[@CarlosMenciaTT]

I know the throw of the old 1.2 85mm was fake but I still cringed.

[@damiengrief]

I wish I could afford any of the RF L lenses. No issues adapting my EF glass on my EOS R but man. The images this and the 50mm RF lenses are capable of are just stunning.

[@rahkshi007]

@leicanoct Yes, i currently use thr EF 85L on Eos R. It focus faster and more accurate than 5d

[@TheDro]

When do we get a "Horizonticaly" shirt?

[@patricksmith2553]

Jared is starting to say crazy things like Tony Northrup, you should get a shirt that say's "prime lenses don't need image stabilization" with a picture of a 400mm f2.8 IS lens on it. Seriously what is he taking about? Prime lenses as short as 28mm exist, even from Canon so you don't even need to bring up super-tele lenses to make this sound ridiculous. This is like Tony saying "crop sensors gather less light!"

[@TechnoBabble]

@@patricksmith2553 Crop sensors do gather less light. Not sure why you're trying to make that statement out like it's wrong. It literally has less surface area for gathering light, meaning at the same aperture and shutter speed it gathers less light, which is why they have more noise at the same ISO.

[@patricksmith2553]

@@TechnoBabble Sensors are not like picture windows, if the pixel site size is the same than they gather the same amount of light. It's per unit area, or pixel site size and even depends on sensor architecture such as BSI or not. Trust me I am 100% right, but probably what you're referring to is if a full frame sensor has larger pixel sites than it's DX counter part, as in if both were 24mp, than yes the full frame would do better with high ISO. It's the larger size of the pixel sites, not the sensor size. If both DX and FX have the same size pixels and same sensor architecture than they gather the same amount of light, period, end of story. You can't just make a blanket statement that full frame gathers more light, it's not true, thats why exposure does not change. Have you ever heard of a light meter with a FX or DX setting? No you have not, they don't exist, it does not matter the size of the sensor! Now I get what you mean, but I'm still right, regardless.

[@TechnoBabble]

@@patricksmith2553 You are sorely mistaken. Go look at images from a 24mp APS-C camera and from the 61mp A7R IV. Do two picture from those cameras have the same noise at the same ISO because their pixels are about the same size? No. Full frame sensors literally gather more light because they are physically larger, therefor they have more surface area and more light hits them. The setting of ISO is meant to standardize exposure across all platforms, it has no bearing on actual light gathered. The reason APS-C cameras have more noise a the same ISO compared to full frame is because they have less information to work with and have to boost the signal more to get the same exposure. This is why ISO exists. Also that argument of larger photosites being better is nonsense and has been disproven many times. Compare images between the D810 and the A7s and tell me which ones look better.

[@patricksmith2553]

@@TechnoBabble Wow you're crazy passionate about this, but your 100% wrong. The size of the sensor has nothing to do with it, it's the pixel pitch. It's per unit area not total area. It's not like a picture window or even a solar panel. We can just agree to disagree, but I know I am right so it's all good.

[@eddiereyes26]

This why I loved Jared. No Eye Auto Focus; manually sets focus point. No IBIS; raises ISO and Shutter Speed. You dont need all those extra features to be a pro

[@emilienfalcimaigne8065]

You sure don't need them! I've shot with a Nikon D3300 for 3 years now and I can't even justify upgrading because the pictures I get out of it are amazing. You just need to understand what you're doing and know your camera and you won't need super expensive gear.

[@klackon1]

That is all simple, basic photography and nothing to do with being a professional. If Jared had been using a Sony A9, A7III, etc., he would have used IBIS and EyeAF. He even stated he would use EyeAF if he was using a Sony camera.

[@robertspano4003]

Well today opinion = fact, so... Be that as it may, taking the point further, Canon looks to be focusing entirely on pros and ultra rich prosumers in the future (for FF mirror less) simply because of the cost of the glass. Given this and Canon’s own forecast for plummeting camera sales, this then begs this question; are there actually enough buyers out there to maintain financially viable sales volumes? How will it maintain cash flow to sustain product development cycles? And can Canon afford to keep developing DSLRs at all, or will the range be left to wither as sales continue to declined? Is the M series the cash cow to feed FF mirror less and will it generate enough cash? Mmmmm.

[@ehaitem]

You don't always have good lighting conditions like Jared had in this video.

[@cooloox]

@@klackon1 I've seen comparisons between the eye AF on the EOS R vs eye AF on the A7iii and the Canon had more keepers. The Sony eye AF box stuck like glue, but the shots weren't always in focus. Even more surprising, the full length shots where the Canon reverted to face detection still had more keepers than the A7iii. If you think I'm making it up I can find the video for you. The guy testing owns and uses both cameras professionally, so he wasn't biased. His tests were initially of a static model and then she walked along a backlit path towards the camera and he shot using continuous AF.

[@KunalMalhotraKM]

Already in love with this lens, shall try soon.

[@digitaleyesproduction]

KUNAL SIR'S FAN🔥

[@editoshoot4621]

sir big fan

[@editoshoot4621]

apka

[@mitulgamit448]

Big fan🍬🍭🍫

[@MichaelReini]

I am a simple man. I have an EOS RP with kit lens, I am happy

[@sebastianszulfer5611]

Somebody watching this video may think that EOS R is a really bad camera that is not taking the full advantage of this lens. I totally disagree with Jared. What could EOS R do better with this lens? Maybe having some MPix more and recording 4k without crop and... Nothing else. This is a typical portrait lens, rather for stills than a video and with more than enough MPix for 99% of cases. Yes, of course, it has one card slot and burst rate that is below the average in the segment, still, none of those will affect the final result (except the card failure lol or if you are shooting sports, which anyway this lens is not made for). I bought EOS R to become my second camera, having 5Dmk4 (backup body for portrait sessions and second body for shooting events without changing the lens too often). Because of how good the EOS R AF is, it became my first choice for portraits. I have two Sigmas, 35mm, and 85mm 1.4 Art and with my 5D shooting at 1.4 my hit rate was miserable (40% at most). With EOS R and Eye AF it is over 95%.

[@RETRONEXT]

Basti S I think Jared is arguing that it's tough to invest this much money into a lens without a full SYSTEM to support a pro photog. Sure the R might get most out of this particular lens (although arguably you could get a lot more out of it with IBIS), but to throw $2700 into a lens mount with a body lacking some of the features you're mentioning (higher mpx, better eye AF, IBIS, faster burst rate, two card slots, etc.) is a compromise. I fully believe the pro R is coming with most/all these boxes checked and will make this glass worth it to those photogs looking for a system that can cater to all of their needs.

[@jneiberger]

I also disagree with Jared. I don't understand his dislike of the EOS R. I've been taking the best photos of my life since I got it. It vastly improved the IQ and workflow, as well as focusing. And I'm still learning little things it can do. It is a superb camera. I was tempted to switch to the Sony A7iii, but I take mostly portraits and didn't want to deal with the Sony skin tone issues. What I get out of this camera is phenomenal and exactly what I want.

[@sebastianszulfer5611]

@@RETRONEXT, Of course, PRO is coming and we all know that. Still, EOS R is a $2000 camera body so hating it for not having some features that more expensive cameras have is ridiculous. Also, the way it is presented in this video can make some people think, that EOS R is a rubbish camera compared to other brands and it still managed to take those great shots. None of those "missing" features would make a difference in this backstage shooting. It is the lens that has the biggest impact on the final picture, not MPixels, card slots and burst rate.

[@RETRONEXT]

@jneiberger @basti S Don't get me wrong, I think spec sheets are overrated and that most photogs, with the exception of some specialties (sports/wildlife/etc.) would find the current R more than suitable for their workflow. I'm a Canon shooter who shoots wildlife on the side so perhaps some of my gripes are just because the R system bodies aren't yet great for fast action. ( I shoot w/ 5d4 and 7dmkii primarily) ;)

[@grumpywiseguy5992]

Compared to Leica glass, this lens is cheap. Jared really nailed the point here. Finally, after all the BS of last year's FF mirrorless announcements, Jared finds a setup that truly improves his professional photographic results that he is being PAID to do. He focused on real time results, not just more blather about specs and what the system is missing. Thanks Jared for sharing what you actually experienced with this setup in the field, doing what you get paid to do. To everyone else, you are in competition with this guy, so either pay up or shut up.

[@nordic5490]

Leica = no AF

[@rafafit1904]

@@nordic5490 leica q2 has AF.

[@fromanabe8639]

I bought the EF 85mm F1.2L on ebay for $1755 back in 2014. It was and is in perfect condition. Since I am not a pro I won't be replacing all my lenses (and cameras) with mirrorless. Most recent DSLR's can operate as a mirrorless using the LiveView feature.

[@higherstandardphotography3991]

I trust the EYE AF all the time, and it works time and time again on the R

[@momchilyordanov8190]

I love the opportunity to download the images. This alone makes your channel useful.

[@froknowsphoto]

Thanks, been doing it for YEARS!!!!

[@YeeG7]

who is seeing this when Canon released R5?

[@maylonr5274]

Common Jared. The R performs just as good as the 5D4 for portrait work, if not better. So to suggest that it isn’t pro enough for these lenses is a little misleading. So unless the suggestion is needing a higher MP camera or one without an AA, I actually don’t see why anyone would want to spending more money for a “pro” body that Will deliver the same IQ. I suppose of course than IBIS would be useful, but it wasn’t there in hate 5D4 either. So only the dual cards would be the “pro” distinction?

[@froknowsphoto]

It’s a statement

[@Classyjorge]

Just bought my Canon EOS R and I’m really impressed. Also comes with the EF-RF adapter for free. Looking to invest in an RF 85mm

[@fak1tGaming]

how is the adapter ? no cons using it?

[@Classyjorge]

fak1t it works great! No problems at all

[@ericliebe3023]

@@fak1tGaming I am using it with the 85mm Sigma Art and it is great. Id' like to see a comparison between this 85 RF and the Sigma Art with adapter.

[@cjonwickham1933]

Canon r is slow at action 3fps even m50 faster and top lcd is convenient but can crack and scroll bar is useless. My new canon r6 along m50 would be perfect if it had all-i compress maybe firmware update had mini hdmi live usbc charge bigger lcd flip and at least 24 mp. Though about coming Sony a7 iv but likely cheap lcd no flip no headphone no shutter protection from dust debris.

[@melgross]

Someone said that we’re in the golden age of lens design. They’re right. I’m still using my 5DmkIV. But if the R5 is even close to what we’re expecting it might be, I’ll dip into Canon mirrorless there. As to these magnificent f2 primes and zooms, well, for me it’s not the cost, but at 70, I don’t know if I want to carry the weight around that I’d did years ago.

[@motosessions]

Pretty sure ‘that gentleman right here’ played Poot in one of the greatest tv shows of our time.

[@eduardosuarez2414]

Yeah I was 95% sure that was him

[@mannyvidsnyc]

What do you mean the EOS R is not “top of the line”? A weather seal magnesium body with a 30mp CMOS Full frame sensor and Canon’s superb digic 8 processor. What about that isn’t “top of the line”? We are talking about a more modern version of a 5D IV! I could understand if you were talking about it’s internal video recording capabilities, which really are good despite the specs, but we are talking about photography! Unless your comparing the EOS R to Fuji’s 102mp camera, which you can’t nor should you, it’s a very pro-level camera. But all photo cameras shoot raw now, so they are all pro photo cameras.

[@ehaitem]

No dual card slots. No IBIS. Sony alrrady has these features in its top of the line cameras. Canon does not.

[@mannyvidsnyc]

ehaitem dual cards and IBIS doesn’t make a camera “top of the line” aka pro. 1DX II no IBIS Red cinema cameras no IBIS and single card slots. GH5 released the cinema GH5S with no IBIS. IBIS is good for photography, but not videography. Some argue that IBIS isn’t practical for either, which I tend to agree with. Sony offers amazing sensor technology, but their camera software processing and bodies totally stink!

[@jacobnathanielzpayag3885]

@@mannyvidsnyc I agree with this. Sony C-raw (compressed raw) is more susceptible to artifacts, they don't have any 10-bit video options, no All-I either, menu system is illogical and looks like something that came from the 1980s, IBIS when turned off makes the video shaky. For IBIS, I think Canon should work on a mechanism that locks the sensor when turned off so that way the sensor does not wiggle around when using a gimbal

[@S3l3ct1ve]

@@jacobnathanielzpayag3885 indeed that and does not push forward/backward when cleaning a sensor, because it is really scary to do it in fear of damaging the IBIS mechanism.

[@jacobnathanielzpayag3885]

@@S3l3ct1ve That is kind of scary. Especially if dust would enter the mechanism and jam it. Worse, if the mechanism jams in a way that the sensor gets tilted. Well hopefully Canon is working on a better IBIS mechanism which is the only valid reason for not including IBIS in the EOS R

[@tombuck]

That’s a beautiful lens I’ll never buy.

[@friedmule5403]

The 85 1.2 II USM has always been my main lens and yes it takes time to learn to use it, but when you have, it's like second nature:-) My "run around" is the 35 and 85 on two 1DX, old gear but when you know the gear, it just works:-)

[@22djoe]

I find it funny that the EOSR is stated to be a non professional body (with exception of 2 card slots) do you realize how many professionals use the 5D series cameras which are essentially the same camera as the R. Improvements have been made to the sensor and focusing on the R over the 5D series. My opinion sharper edge to edge with R lenses than the 5D series.

[@villagranvicent]

Exactly. This is a "lower-end" body because of lack of IBIS when none of the 5D cameras have it and cropped 4K... The weird thing is that the R been so crappy manages to create amazing IQ with the RF lenses.

[@dans.8198]

Technically speaking, IS elements are not “Floating Lens Elements”. FLE’s are actually present in the lens, and used to maximize performance through the entire focusing range. Also, the superior chromatic aberration correction is due to special glass elements, not coatings.

[@arthurlbn]

I’ve bought the eos rp to use the extra money with this rf lenses. When Canon put a superbody on the market I Will buy it

[@kennethgnielsen]

Mention the 'body' too much. This is to review the lens right? The lens is great, obviously incredible... I have no problem with 'the body' of the R as it is already blowing every DSLR out of the water because of the mirrorless system. Even the EF lenses perform better on this 'body.' I don't knock it and love it! In the next 15-20 years you are going to see lots of 'bodies' I know you will love... until then... peace.

[@zubair.asyraf]

Drinking game : Drink every time jared says 1.2

[@manusk40]

I wonder will Jared ever do a face reveal ?

[@MrPixelspin]

This isn't Davie504!

[@frankb.1284]

EF 85mm f1.4 IS, half the price plus stabilized. Period.

[@stephengatley8144]

That’s what I’m saving for & the 35mm 1.4 ii they are a dream team!.

[@tomkro9704]

leicanoct huge....haha

[@cooloox]

@@tomkro9704 It's definitely noticeable, but I find the background blur adequate on an 85mm f/1.8, so I don't really care anyway. You'd buy the new 85mm lens for improved focusing and image quality and future proofing as everything goes mirrorless.

[@brianchu8147]

1.2 is 50% more light for stopping action, new lens is almost completely free of CA thanks to the blue goo BR element, sharp across the image at 1.2. If you shoot things that stand still, IS will help a ton. If you shoot moving subjects, IS obviously isn't a magic bullet. And the IQ of the new lens is Otus quality. You can compare on The Digital Picture. I own the lens so I'm not speculating. It's not worth it for everyone, but it sure is for me :)

[@frankb.1284]

leicanoct huge...let me doubt it

[@delvinreyes]

When he threw the old 85 mil with that glass effect 😂😂Lmaooo

[@sammyfromsydney]

You do understand one main reason you're hitting more is the mirrorless AF beats the phase detect AF on DSLR for accuracy, don't you? I find it ironic that you're trashing the body as not professional when it is in fact what's making the lens shine. I would have loved to see this compared to an adapted EF lens. But the truth is I'd never pay this much for a prime and I prefer shooting at f/8 if I have the light - I want more in focus not less, regardless of f/1.2 being fashionable and seen as "professional".

[@photoapeal]

I was thinking of purchasing the RF 85mm f/1.2 that's why I'm watching this video but was kind of shocked at the price. If money wasn't a deciding factor I'd have it today. I have the R5 which would be a great pairing.

[@mikewinburn]

The "last one" with the actor outside - wow...not only did it display the 85's potential, but also showed your portrait selection/creation skill. That image was a sale waiting to happen. Nice work.

[@michaelrooke193]

The R5 is here now. Time to dig deep and buy this beast of a lens. Great video rview.

[@artistjoh]

I love my EF 85 1.2L. Always fantastic to give a look impossible from most other lenses. Fantastic for getting artstic shots in places like bars where light is low. With this new lens being even better, it will be high on my buy list once a Pro R body is released. Despite the price.

[@ThreeCeeProductions]

You said the right thing. Unique look. A lot of sharp lenses. Very few unique lenses. The reason people buy Zeiss and Leica. Rf85 1.2, 135 f2, rf28-70 2

[@jacobnathanielzpayag3885]

Wow. This lens is a beast physically, image wise, and price-wise.

[@BizStyle87]

At the end everybody is complaining about the missing IS on the new R-Bodies and RF-Lenses - BUT every showed picture is razor-sharp. / without tripod of course. :D

[@ehaitem]

Its because they have shaky hand syndrome

[@joealfanophotography9568]

IBIS is missed at exactly the time you actually need it. There are times when I have thanked God it’s in the camera or lens. Most of the time it’s easy to do without but most isn’t always.

[@Miketz]

He was on set for a whole day, and showed us a half dozen images that worked and none that didn't. And even then, some of those shots had obvious ISO induced noise. Yes, you can take great shots without it, but you can take better shots (and more of them) with it.

[@maxwellwellmax878]

IBIS didnt exist when I got my film SLR, when Minolta came out with ANTI SHAKE in 2003 Canon reassured us that Lens based IS was superior to Sensor IBIS, fast forward now and everyone wants IBIS in their Coffee. I have enough lenses with IS that I dont miss ibis but nowadays its a deal breaker for some.

[@BizStyle87]

@@maxwellwellmax878 I know - this is why its funny. But I think the most hate comes from people who doesn't know how to use a dslr or any type of camera.

[@vaportrails458]

Am I correct to assume this lens is useless for anybody using a Canon EF mount. I can't use this on my Canon 6D. I have to switch to one of the mirrorless bodies so this is not really a direct comparison.

[@JohnDrummondPhoto]

That's true. But you can adapt the EF lens to the R body. Since both lenses are usable on the R body, the comparison is fair for mirrorless users.

[@anthonyc1883]

Correct.

[@maxwellwellmax878]

yep thats the plan, Canon may have already decided to abandon DSLRs and will force new customers to go with Mirrorless. You can still get a 5dmk4 and see if CAnon will have a fire sale on EF lenses.

[@andis9030]

Hey jared. A little hint which marens your life mich easier: you can set the function ring on the lens in a way that it only reacts when the shutter is pressed half way Down. Just choose the av or tv or iso icon with the little downward arrow beside it in the ring function menu. Hope that helps, cheers!

[@PhotoTubeUK]

What a lens! Great review Fro!

[@dspain0214]

Uh... Have a question.... At 10:54 when you say the bokeh is super sweet its probably because of the 9 blades instead of 8...... You are at 1.2. Wide open. Arent the aperture blades completely retracted? So they are irrelevant here.☺

[@8020Alive]

But wait! Fro Knows photo. Maybe he doesn't?

[@S3l3ct1ve]

the answer of that bokeh probably lies in focusing distance :)

[@TheThorntonBrapper]

This lens, whilst technically amazing lacks most of the 'pixie dust' of the 1.2L. Sometimes, imperfections maketh the lens.

[@mram4653]

The lens is fantastic in every single way

[@samhartwig4640]

I’ve got it. When the next body comes out I’ll get. Great video

[@donniedarko1345]

A lens I will buy eventually. LOVE the shallow DOF.. Great portrait lens and (by your review) miles better than the old one.

[@leeman2567]

Owning a canon r body I made the decision to buy the equivalent ef mount versions and buy the adaptor for each lens on eBay for $70. Got basically the same lenses but at a massive cost saving. Yes I lost the control ring but that’s a small trade off.

[@Phobos_Deimos]

Microcontrast and sharpness are really good on f/1.2. And, EOS R do focus precisely -- so, it's a pretty good cam...

[@best-sound]

What do you miss from the actual body other than a 2nd card slot? Seems that it produces great photos

[@RonaldBuskens]

Exactly. And might I add especially when doing portrait shoots. What can a Canon "pro body" bring extra to the table? Isn't the EOS R the mirrorless version of the 5D series? The camera most portrait shooters choose when they go with Canon?

[@siegfriednoet]

@@RonaldBuskens No its not, its the mirrorless version of the 6D series

[@thehobnob]

Siegfried Noët I’d argue the RP is the mirrorless 6D really, or a sort of mirrorless full-frame Rebel

[@thehobnob]

If we take the 1DXII as an example - higher burst rates, Ethernet port, uncropped 4K60 (but hopefully with a decent codec)

[@RonaldBuskens]

@@siegfriednoet Why is that?

[@Multiprodukcija]

I have my RF70-200 F2.8, but to close the ring of my all L series lenses, I will buy finally this RF 85mm 1.2 . I need it and I love quality of it. Canon beat all round manufactures of lenses. They are the best for sure...

[@anhquyenvuong9658]

How about the rf 85mm f1.2 DS compare to this?

[@view23015]

The EOS R is essentially Canon’s mirrorless equivalent of its own 5D Mk IV , without the second card slot and the thumbstick , but with some other new and excellent benefits such as the EVF, flip-screen, movie time lapse , etc . I’ve had mine since October and love it . In saying that , it’s certainly not holding back this new RF lens , considering the updated firmware to add continuous eye AF - something they should have done from release . Great video as always and I do appreciate the hammering about a “Pro” body - how many people will afford that version vs trying to get people used to spending $2500 ish for a great body from $700-$1000 range Jared . Everyone is expecting Nikon and Canon to release flagship models and we can all celebrate them - but like a Sony handicam vs a RED camera , not many people would ever get the change to experience that level of performance. All the best , Justin

[@MrGflan]

Does anyone know how the older EF 85mm f 1.4 on the R5 or R6 compares to this lens in terms of AF speed only? Thanks.

[@linkedinfred]

I’ve been drooling over this lens for a while for portrait. I did the lottery tonight.

[@KostasLazanas]

I can’t wait till the pro Canon Mirrorless drops!

[@Hansca]

@aes records if that were true we would all be still using silver plated copper plates.

[@Hansca]

@aes records Yes, there are beautiful pictures taken with all ages of cameras, my point is why turn your nose up at new technology? If everyone did that we would never progress with anything. Remember, when cameras were first invented in the early 1800s, some painters at the time didn't like the idea because the images were too realistic and lacked artistic interpretation. I have many cameras that I've kept throughout my life and I still shoot with film from time to time but I'm also hanging out to see what Canon gives us as a Pro body mirrorless and I will almost certainly buy it, what's on offer now is, I think, not worth the money.

[@spost26]

Me too Because the EOS R will be cheaper for me to buy

[@77appyi]

when a lens is wide open it makes no difference how many blades it has

[@fredsbloggs656]

It's the optical design that gives great bokeh ...... as there are no aperture blades at F1.2 ....... Good review !!

[@kennethgnielsen]

Always knocking the R... Some of us are really really happy with it so repeating dislike and remorse over what is not available yet is wasted time methinks... But your reviews are great... Thanks for that.

[@muaathe78]

Agree with you canon have not offered a professional body yet. Something worth to point. That these lenses will not use on other camera ever, but the EF lenses could

[@jeremyparr4238]

Hi Jared this lens sound awesome it will be on my buy list will this lens be good on the R6 Mark II yours truly Jer😁

[@andrearusky]

"Horizonticaly" 🙄

[@AugmentedGravity]

My dream cream lens

[@caleidoo]

10:58 Blades don't matter if you're shooting wide open, obviously. A hole is just a hole and wide open, the blades are neatly tucked together inside the lens barrel, away from the rays of light and don't have any impact on the image.

[@JMSTipsAndTricks]

Would love to see this video redone now with the r5 or r6

[@mikelyon5595]

Even the low-end canon mirrorless has an available vertical grip! Is Nikon looking?

[@TheG7thcapo]

I just ordered one today pair with the EOS RP. Sweet.......... not really

[@lifetimesofamultiplemediam1003]

LOOOOOL…

[@mike_spotter_cr]

Rest in peace!

[@josephberkeley]

Great review, Fro. Love your analysis. I have the EF 35 1.2 f1.4L which I love. Have not bought the 85 as my 70-200 f2.8L is good. Can't wait to see Canon EOS R Pro.

[@BlakeSandenMedia]

You are why I own a cannon.. My eyes want to see more of of your videos... My *Wallet* on the other hand says no please no more

[@jasongarringer12]

This lens is, quote, “choadier!” 🤣🤣🤣 Thank you Jared for the truly unfiltered, accurate description of this choady lens.

[@Clumsy83]

I have the 85mm 1.4L IS and I think it’s the best out there. Cheaper, smaller, IS.

[@LordArioh]

from what I saw people were mostly disappointed about crop in 4K and single card slot. Is that what it takes nowadays to be a professional camera? besides crop in 4K is mostly vloggers problem, cuz they need wider lenses to capture their faces in all the sharpness.

[@spost26]

RF lenses are out of my price range.... Would it be worth buying into the R system even if I'm adapting EF lenses?

[@Thomasjcolbert82]

Stephen Post Definitely for now yes. They even work better lol. No joke.

[@lubintasevski5985]

For portraits I've been loving my EOS R as I never miss getting sharp focus all the time. However, for event photography this camera is slow and I hate the delay when you shoot from the screen to view finder. Somehow the focusing is faster using the screen. I look forward to when I can have my RF holy trinity and primes, as I don't want to always use an adapter for a few lenses and my native RF glass. I am very tempted to get the RF 85 f/1.2. I normally shoot with my 100mm f/2.8 IS, which is easy to focus with... since the RF 85 focuses better, I do want to try it out...

[@S3l3ct1ve]

You just took perfect portraits with imperfect camera - you are either GOD, or maybe, just maybe the camera is pretty damn good after all...

[@googleit1131]

I get so much whiplash from watching Fro videos. Most of the time he says "buy the best stuff for the best pictures," but then when he does his portfolio reviews, he goes on and on about how "you can get amazing photos with cheap gear."

[@arthurmermelshtein1767]

This video got me convinced , I just bought the nFD 85mm. Don't see how this RF is better then the EF 85mm f1.4 which focuses fast, is smaller , has less weight and adapts perfectly to the EOS R, those photos you took could be taken as easily with the 85mm f1.4 with same results. Looks like a waste of money to me for someone who has the EF f1.4 version. I do recommend the nFD version of the 85mm 😀.

[@kikipratama1]

It's my favorite lens. Sharp enough, fast enough, sized enough, stabilized, durable, cheap enough, adaptable, beautiful. It's an all-rounder.

[@marcocano335]

Jared, Im very curious of your thoughts on this lens with the R3, R5 and R6 now released. Great work!

[@user-jc5fq6dc8z]

The rf85mm 1.2L is amazing with the R6

[@morvegil]

The bodies are coming!

[@MrMayabeach]

Canon will bring the 5dmkii legacy with new bodies that fit those RF lenses that will leave every competitor out there wetting there pants.

[@ehaitem]

@@MrMayabeach and a price tag that matches Canon's ego.

[@johndrachenberg2254]

RAWthchild?

[@kullumphoto]

I have this lens and absolutely love it! Are there alternatives ...yes. Someone who is serious will be looking more into this lens. I can shoot this lens at f 1.2 without hesitation! I had sold my sigma 105 f1.4 for this lens and I have no regrets!

[@raysonyue3280]

Today, we have the better bodies. This lens is absolutely magical.

[@nieks9212]

This looks like a great lens, but in my personal opinion, the f1.2 aperture is something that should be used selectively. I like how it can create a great deal on focus on the subject when applied in wider shots, but with the close-up shots of just the face, I think the effect is too much. Often most of the details in the face are completely out of focus, especially when the subject is not standing completely perpendicular to the camera, you lose everything except one of the eyes. It may be purely a personal preference (Not saying there is anything technicalyl wrong with the shots), But I think stepping back to f1.4 o f1.8 will show slightly more detail, and therefore yield a better shot overall.

[@henk3380]

Awesome Video Jared, love them. I'm just curious if it's worth buying these RF lenses, or just use the old EF lenses with an adaptor. The price really makes a difference for non-professionals.

[@dsm363]

I have the same question. The EF 85mm 1.4 with IS and adapter as well or the new Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L DS?

[@SpencerPhotography]

You are such a nut and always crack me up. Good stuff dood.

[@palefaced1]

I bought the 50mm l series. One of my absolute favorite lenses by far.

[@mike_spotter_cr]

Mount the old one 85 w/ the sonys does the job! I have both systems but sony kick canon ass in focusing and Ibis of course!

[@MaciejUrbanowicz]

The lens is great. I know that shooting at 1.2 has been done for a purpose of this video (and it proved that this lens is awesome). However, most of these portraits would look better if the aperture was set to ~2-2.8.

[@yousefmenem1878]

unbelievable man !!!! killer shots i've never seen such a great sharpness and headshots from a small cam like these really incredible

[@jonaswallmann1943]

Hey Jared, could you please make a video about the EOS R´s eye af, or just a little Instagram video? Because I just saw a video of Manny Ortiz in wich he shot portraits with the R, with the new 50mm 1.2 on eye af and NAILING every shot, even when the model was dancing and walking around

[@Thomasjcolbert82]

I love it! Do all of you guys always shoot at 1.2? I like how Jarad shoots, but I’ve had people tell me I can’t shoot at F1.2 because the nose is out of focus. I mean, what the hell is the point then lol.

[@anthonyc1883]

No, but’ it’d be fun to try out, and I thank you for this review.. And not necessarily because of the cost. The 85 1.4 is still a pro lens in build and image and AF and it gives me image stabilization, helping me shoot at lower ISO when appropriate, and the difference in the bokeh from the 1.2 is minuscule. For me, what I gain with the 1.4 is more valuable than what I lose by not having the 1.2.

[@maxwellwellmax878]

yes but youre missing the POint, Its all about Mirrorless!!!, Its what everyone in KZbin wants you to embrace.

[@mareaziphotos315]

He was right

[@TheNewArtSchool]

This is accurate. However on the RF system all EF glass focuses a little bit faster. Our 85mm EFLii len works a lot better on the RF bodies.

[@mariolopez.photographer]

Thank you for another Great video!! Will be getting this lens neXt!!

[@PraveenKumar-fs6of]

Special thanks for the RAWs . 👍

[@donstravelsandrants.]

Looks like an amazing lens.

[@coryhultquist580]

I have the DS version of this lens coming on Wednesday- very exciting. Good video here 👍🏻

[@Zelohem]

How is it ?

[@coryhultquist580]

@@Zelohem it is quite simply the finest piece of glass I’ve ever used.

[@mrheng562]

I’ll be getting my hands on these at a Canon event in Costa Mesa. Very excited about his lens, but not that price though. I might get the 85mm f/1.4 and just adapt it instead.