Watch This Before Taking Studio Music Courses

[@CharlesCleyn]

🙋🏼‍♂hi everyone, here are my 6 pillars on learning Logic Pro faster (FREE): www.charlescleyn.com/learn-logic

[@CharlesCleyn]

Have you guys taking any of the course? What do you think? Are you thinking of taking one? Why haven't you yet? Let me know :)

[@TuhinBepariMusic]

Yup I m thinking about taking a course but i didn't find out the one that i m looking for..

[@CharlesCleyn]

I'm thinking about making a course of my own that is more teaching based, would you be interested?

[@victorwang6837]

@@CharlesCleyn I’d definitely be interested

[@CharlesCleyn]

That's great to hear, I'll be letting you know when i release one. Hopefully very soon.

[@zoemoskal9700]

@@CharlesCleyn I absolutely would love to take a course led by you!!! Please do keep us updated! I honestly think you are an excellent teacher - and that's just from watching your tutorials here on youtube! It really struck me - you are clear and methodical and really demonstrate things properly in a really calming and reassuring way, in a quiet sort of way (the opposite to Blanks!) which is actually more conducive to learning really especially if you're watching for long periods of time. You truly do TEACH - an aspect that, as you said, was rather lacking in the Monthly courses. I have learned quite a bit from your videos already! I have actually taken 4 over the course of 2021! All those three you took plus one by Louis Bell in December. I agree with pretty much everything you said here. It's false marketing when they say it's suitable for absolute beginners - it's definitely not. I think out of all four though (to be fair, Bell marketed his as for intermediate upwards) Blanks does actually give a bit more of the foundations than the others. I did manage to learn a lot from the courses - but in the fly on the wall way and learning through actually doing it way mostly like you mentioned. I think it is a little bit cheeky that you don't get feedback from someone who truly knows what they're doing. Ok the teachers can't get through hundreds of students... but they could maybe employ a few people who were more advanced and could give some feedback. The peer feedback can still be good though - but very mixed! It's the luck of the draw if you get someone properly constructive and encouraging in yours who will help you and give you properly detailed feedback. I have come across two such people (one of which has become a great friend and I've collaborated with) but it does come down to luck with that. I found Charlie the most fun to watch as well - he really does seem like such a genuinely nice guy. But he was a tiny bit intimidating at some points with his vast knowledge, keyboard skills and perfect pitch! (And i've even studied music at uni and play piano haha). I found Ryan Tedder to be extremely rambly and not very keen and eager for us to learn at all - he was the least "teaching" type of teacher (in my opinion) and that was very clear to me from the start. But anyway this is a massive comment - hope it's not too rambly - but I figure i'd share my two cents on it all having done so many courses! Overall I am so glad that I discovered Monthly last year - It has enabled me to get back into music production again after such a long break from it after I left uni - but it's certainly got its pitfalls and can be improved, and isn't for everyone. I think a huge part of Monthly's upsides though is the deadlines and accountability and sharing your work - it just makes you get on with it and not procrastinate and almost forces you to stay focused. I really do hope you do your own course. Honestly, Monthly should hire you! You make beautiful songs (I've been listening to them a lot since I discovered you on here recently!) and you can teach - you have both talents!

[@rickomuzik]

I took the Tedder course. What was amazing to see is that he uses a very similar vocal chain that I do; including the. CLA F2F Dry and the reverb

[@CharlesCleyn]

I got the CLA plugin from taking this course too and I've been enjoying it.

[@willstatmen9591]

Learning music is like learning a language, spent a few years focusing on it, you’ll master it regardless of paid or free courses

[@CharlesCleyn]

That's a good point but I think it's more like, spent a lifetime on it, then you'll become a master.

[@adriennemcvey]

I am just finishing the Andrew Huang course. I really enjoyed it! In my opinion, Andrew is a good teacher, and he's definitely very skilled at mixing and mastering. Although I'm an experienced musician, I had virtually no production experience prior to the course, so it was overwhelming at times..so much to learn. Also, he teaches in Ableton. I watched hours of your videos during the course to learn how to implement Andrew's techniques in Logic Pro X. So, thank you for being a great teacher...you were a lifesaver! Question: did the 3 courses you took use Logic Pro?

[@robtietje2566]

you should have your own monthly class... I think it would be awesome :)

[@inventionofmonsters7015]

I've been debating on taking the Ryan Tedder course for a while now. Thanks for the info!

[@CharlesCleyn]

You're very welcome :)

[@nolanfreitas]

Took the Ryan Tedder course and loved it! Awesome and very insightful dude, I definetly learned a lot! Can't believe he showed his vocal chain too! Charles, love the channel btw, thank you for all the lessons!

[@CharlesCleyn]

I know right, I actually got the chris lord alge compressor plugin because of his course. And his songs rocked too!

[@JeffyG]

It’s tough to know what courses to recommend. I provide one-on-one tutoring and mentoring and my clients are all at different levels, so I can’t provide a one-size-fits-all course. Some folks need help with using the technology while others need help with music theory. It’s gotta be tough to define a standard course.

[@joeglover1439]

Charles love your videos. I'd love to see you do a video on writing a song from start to finish just to get a flavour on how you approach your projects. Appreciate this would be a long video and a lot of work for you but I'd watch it for sure.

[@CharlesCleyn]

Hey Joe, it's on my list for sure, I hope to have it out in a few weeks.

[@joeglover1439]

@@CharlesCleyn awesome! Will look forward to watching it.

[@sunflowerkidworld]

Hey Charles thanks for doing this. Been wondering about what’s in these courses. Appreciate the review.

[@CharlesCleyn]

You're welcome David :)

[@shatings5605]

How are the times for these classes? Is it pre recorded or....

[@sparklyhippie888]

A little off subject, but are you in your home studio? Those sound proofing panels are great, I’d love to know where you got them!

[@CharlesCleyn]

Yes, that's my home studio. These specific ones are from Primacoustics. You can check them out online. I recommend them!

[@girmanthapa1645]

Hey charles, is there any qualifications inorder to learn music production other then having the knowledge of chord names? + Do you recommend to go and learn in musical academy/studios or just online at home? "I wanna produce and learn everything I can in every detail."

[@vijethamadyastha007]

Thank you very much for the review ❤️ Is there any other courses for beginners like me who don't know to play any instruments and would like to create using DAW?

[@CharlesCleyn]

My pleasure :)

[@jonasgustavsson1133]

You also seem like the nicest guy ever and I would love to have beer with you! :D

[@CharlesCleyn]

thanks Jonas! I’d you’re in Canada on the east coast, let’s do to!

[@robertbialous7555]

Thanks 👍

[@CharlesCleyn]

Thanks for watching Robert :)

[@raniganjpbh9422]

And tell us about making songs without instrument... And how to get melodies of a complete new and original song... Bro help i waana be a English singer

[@CharlesCleyn]

you mean like singing over tracks when you say making a song without instruments?

[@d.towerz]

Thanks

[@raniganjpbh9422]

From India 🇮🇳 really wanna to talk....

[@CharlesCleyn]

what kind of music are you making man?

[@oraclemusic2328]

Why don't u launch your own course giving all knowledge u have for free on yt!!

[@CharlesCleyn]

I think that's a great idea, would you be interested in taking it?

[@oraclemusic2328]

@@CharlesCleyn yeah sure straight ahead I am following u for a long time now and i feel u have a strong taste of music So there is no no.. It's only yes yes for u!!

[@CharlesCleyn]

That's awesome man, thank you!

[@angelailma950]

I would definitely be interested in taking a course from you too! I enrolled in a Udemy ‘learn production on logic’ one, but the singer they used in it kind of put me off, there was a lot of stuff I didn’t need, and the lesson quality seemed somewhat lacking (halfway through I was questioning how much they actually knew).

[@CharlesCleyn]

Sorry to hear about that experience with Udemy. A course is something I'm going to do and I'll let you know on KZbin when it's ready :)