Watch This Video BEFORE You Lift Your Toyota Tacoma

[@TheBourbonNights]

Hey Rob, I lifted my 2021 Off Road with a TRD Pro suspension. I added Eibach Pro lift springs to front and Icon AAL to the back. I’m running Cooper XLT 285/75/16. The ride is SO much better than it was stock. Day and night difference. It dampens bumps much better, corners better and is more planted to the road then before. Also, the Pro suspension fixes the Taco lean!

[@RobMotive]

Sounds like you have a good setup 👍

[@nevbones4599]

I wonder if I could apply this to my 2006 prerunner 🤔

[@justice4all32]

What was the cost to do this?

[@NESADDICT]

@@justice4all32would also like to know

[@SuperElGuapo69]

@@RobMotive what size tires Rob?

[@michaelengel384]

I was considering a 3" lift because I wanted the look, but now I agree I really don't want to ruin the ride, mine is an off road, but I will leave the side steps on to keep down on door dings, but thanks you saved me about $1500

[@jeep1987]

A 3 inch lift will not ruin the ride unless you get a cheap lift

[@jeep1987]

Even a six inch lift you'll b good just don't go with cheap and have it installed right ! You will be good I have had many lifted vehicles the only time you sacrifice the ride quality is when you don't do it right and or try to be cheap

[@northeastrailwayproductions]

2inch front, 1inch rear. You'll be happy.. doesn't change the ride.

[@jbammorales5858]

​@@jeep1987what kit brand do you recomend? I saw a rough country 3.5 lift kit going for $800

[@Emeraldcoastking]

Guys a lift will not ruin your Tacoma, don't be cheap

[@northeastrailwayproductions]

I know, I hate how people say that lol. Literally if you stay at a 2 inch lift, you're golden.. 2inch front, 1inch rear. Don't have to change anything really.

[@Dankehum]

@@Nintaco19so do you suggest not leveling at all? Whats the solution ?

[@jfish2020]

AND it saves me from smacking my head on my truck everytime I get in it

[@robertcook9907]

2006 1 1/2" rear 2" front no problems 16 years

[@jbammorales5858]

Whats the right way of leveling your tacoma? Spacers or lift kit?

[@paulnirschl6500]

Rob actually if the new tires are 1.1” taller you raised the truck approx .5” as you have half above and below the center of the wheel.

[@steve8803]

@@donthesheek no, the tire is 1.1" taller in diameter. Which means the lift is half that.

[@thomasmulligan9253]

Was able to comment the same thing. Well said

[@stout111]

Great vid. Thank you. But If you put your new set of wheels next to your old ones and they are 1” higher than the old then the circumference is equally 1” more. However the radiance of the wheel is half of the circumference. So you gain 1/2” of lift

[@paulpryor850]

I have a 24' limited with AVS. None of the lifts were tested for the Limited model. My buddy owns a hotrod shop and customizes vehicles for a living. He reached out to a few vendors and even designed a few custom parts. It's not a crazy lift! I'm running 275/75r18s, but I could go bigger for the tires. Unfortunately, I'm not into destroying the integrity of it being a Tacoma Limited. We just wanted to improve on the platform. It is lifted 2/12 inches and some change, and it's perfectly somewhat level in appearance. With just better shcks, struts, and tire. It rides better than it did stock. I didn't sacrifice any of the towing. Nor has the gas mileage changed. Most lift kits are generic and add no valve to the vehicle. Now, I can actually feel the AVS lowering and lifting the truck in the different drive modes. The parts that were customed fabricated were the bump-stops. Mechanically, I like the 4th generation Tacoma. Cosmetically, though not so much.....

[@aaronoconnor8862]

This is great - I was a Jeep guy rocking 35s New Tacoma - it’s a 2x4 4cy crew cab - it’s my daily driver to take my bulldogs swimming. Once I learned about ECt button -- it actually drives like a truck -- pretty sure I can put 500k on it easy It’s a black on black w/ black rims w/only 24k miles …. Bought it cash for under 30k - 27k actually it’s got 9y 100k bumper to bumper coverage too. Wanted to find biggest lightest wheels w/out rubbing - no lift The fact that -10 offset 265/75/r16 is sand even w lift makes me think - just don’t lift I researched Tacoma world -- 4cl can handle 265/75/R16 no sweat -- Great video Good to know

[@curtiseagleeyemullin]

Thanks for the feedback, Rob. I was going to lift etc. etc. etc. -- then drive her from east to west coast, but now you've convinced me not to, and if anything, build her up once I reach my off-roading logging roads destination in BC instead of doing it here just because I want to spend money I think I have! Appreciate the realism Much Love from Canada

[@tacogolf6267]

Great point Rob. I did the same thing, except I have the 265/70/17 size and I did a very similar video about the lift and tire size. Your truck looks great that way, as does mine too. Except i still have the side bars. I personally just like the way it looks. It has no other function otherwise. Great points here. 👍

[@RobMotive]

After removing the steps I realized they were just in my way😬

[@tacogolf6267]

@@RobMotive oh yes they are in the way, lol. I’ve nailed my shins a few times. But still, I like the way they look. So I’ll stick with them for a while.

[@matthewgreen435]

I have a 2017. Put 285/75 R16s on it. No rubbing whatsoever. Fit fine. Putting a 3 front 2 rear lift on this weekend. Cost 270$. Probably go up to 35s next new set of tires and won’t be a problem.

[@cs-vf2de]

Ive saved my 09 h3 from the road salt, it now has 53k no rust, lucky I had it rustproofed and undercoated when I purchased it, left the suspension. alone and went with larger tires, Im glad I went this route, the quality of the ride means a lot too me, thanks for your awesome videos.

[@RobMotive]

That’s great! Sounds like a good decision all around to me👍

[@coolcee1666]

thanks for the advise. i just got a tacoma and the first thing i wanted to do was lift. but i will consider maybe taller tires instead

[@chrispeaslee6095]

Also, I lifted my Tacoma 2" with OME coils, Icon leaf, and nitrocharger shocks. It rides amazing! That's with armor, winch, etc.

[@larrybailey1896]

With your experience from moding Tacomas , my opinion is you nailed it on every single detail 100%.

[@RobMotive]

Thanks 👍

[@gearhigher2027]

Rob you are 110% correct with the advice, the TRD concept is focused usually on nubes that don't understand the plus and minus of raising the truck. I think leveling the truck with spacers, in combination with taller tires gives a similar appearance at major cost savings.

[@robdawg700]

Did you add spacers? And if so how many inches and how does it ride?

[@gearhigher2027]

@@robdawg700 NO, I use an Eibach Suspension kit for that model BULLETPROOF!

[@johncruz4531]

i was just thinking of removing my leveling kit and going back to stock height. glad i saw this

[@richardhartford609]

So, cvorrect me if I'm wrong, but if your older tires are 1 inch lower then your total increase in height would be 1/2 inch, or one radius. Yes?

[@iamsteve2474]

I have a 2021 as well. I 100% agree with you on the ride with 16's. Great set up.

[@codename_wind_official]

Great advice, more should listen to this advice unless you're going full-on off roading setup. Yes,bthe stock plush ride is worth way more to you. The tire size upgrade using hybrid off road treads looks great. Trim about 2" off that huge front lower valance plastic (the snow plow chin). Remove it but it can look bare and odd. Personal preference I don't like the look With OR Without the valance. The only real purpose of the valance is saving some buffeting at highway speed, it doesnt really matter. So followed lines, taped, sharpied and cut it with the electric grinder, tapered it and sanded. Looks stock. Also those super long stock front mud guards....take those off OR swap the front out with Husky guards, which are a good 2" shorter. Rears OEM and Husky are very similer. Not necessary to change those. Finally de-rust the rear drums and paint them with rustoleum semi-gloss black. Also paint the front calipers along with the inner section of the front rotors (only the part that shows when the wheel in on). Plenty of videos on the subject. However I recommend good taping and don't use spray. Use the brush-on can of rustoleum. Do a few coats and let it dry well. It'll be thicker and last longer. Don't paint the mating surfaces to the hub and the wheel. Looks great and doesn't cost much except a Saturday of time. All these little changes makes the stance look good and clean, while saving money and not wrecking the ride. Or having those spacers wreck your shocks, bottoming out and touching the arms. If its your everyday truck, and doesn't see any off road. With occasional Lowes and household duties. Guys dont spend 1000's, save your cash for fun stuff like vacations and trips. This is just a normal guy setup.

[@xmacleod]

I've got a '21 Tacoma TRD Pro with the stock TRD Pro suspension and stock TRD Pro 16" wheels (Gulf coast version of the wheels, which is apparently different from everywhere else but I _think_ the offset is the same at +13mm, about an inch less "pokey-outty" than what Rob has here). I have 265/75R16 Falken Wildpeak AT3 tires on it. They measure just shy of 32" diameter top to ground at 35 PSI with the truck on level ground. They actually DO rub, but ONLY if I go over a bump with the steering at full lock. I agree, it's a great size tire, and I wouldn't go any bigger because you'll likely start a chain reaction of modifications to make everything work right. I've read somewhere online that 285/75R16 tires would fit a stock TRD Pro, but my experience distinctly says "no."

[@RobMotive]

God advice 👍

[@carlpasquali7965]

I put bilstein 6112 in front, at 4/3 setting and 5100 struts and shocks on the same truck, mine is a 22 model. It rides great with the 6112's. Better than stock ride. I was surprised .

[@RobMotive]

Great that you found a good setup 👍

[@user-ej1bq4bq2w]

I've been heavily considering doing this on my 21' Sport, 6112's up front and 5160's in the rear.. I don't really need them, but thought it would put the truck at the perfect height on 265/70 17's. What kind of wheels/tires you rocking? any pics?

[@edmcgee3512]

Side steps are not there only to step into your truck. I use mine to access my roof when loading the roof rack or when washing the truck.

[@jfranshome1]

Great video. I agree 100%. I have a 2020 TRD off road and like the stock 16” wheels. Just had a set of BFG A/T 265/75R 16 KO2s installed. They look great and no noticeable difference in drive quality but they look incredible. Your truck looks great!

[@baconnbitz]

Thanks for the post. With your setup, did you have to do an offset or just put those tires on your stock wheels?

[@zynetik]

I'm thinking in lifting my Chevy Avalanche by two inches. I'm already running 265/75 R16's, they are 31.5" overal but i'm looking at 285/70 R17's which are 33's. So an 3.5" overall lift but I'm wary of the stress on the transmission. both should have the same ride conform due to similar sidewall but potholes should be less noticable.

[@jhansen2649]

If you want better mpg, use 235/85/16” tires. Same height, narrower thus pulls less air and gives better grip.

[@brookebrawley2142]

Smiles per gallon 🤔

[@londonbobby69]

Looks Good! Even better with 5100's! The stock Hitachi shocks don't cut it for me! On on!

[@007diego2]

Maybe it’s different with my runner. But the ride is too soft. So I want to make it a little bit more firm a little bit more tight. I’ve been researching that happy middle ground. I’ll probably go one and a half and one. 4 mm offset, 265, 70 17’s. Hopefully I’ll find that spot. I’m looking for. Great video. Good information.

[@JoseGarcia-tr9mp]

Interesting. I just bought a brand new 2023 Tacoma TRD Off-Road last Friday. This last Monday I went over to one of our local off-road shops to start looking at mods. I ended up ordering some Bilstein 5100 shocks, MaxTrac 2.5" spacer kit, Fuel 16" wheels with a -6 offset with some Toyo MT's in yup, 265/75/R16. The lift is minimal and more for leveling but I will see a small increase in height. I stuck with the 265/75's because I don't want to ruin the ride but I will be taking the truck off-road fairly often and wanted the benefits of a little bit extra height and the benefit of a more aggressive and capable off-road tire. Stuff should come in and get installed on the 14th so we'll see how I like it. Great honest video, thanks for sharing.

[@RobMotive]

Please let us know what you think after the lift👍

[@PolkAudio-dv3bq]

Great video. My 2020 AC 2.7 I put a 2/1 front/rear block lift. Looks much better NO fuel difference. Changed tire size. 245/75/16 - 265/75/16 & LOST probably 2mpg. I would highly recommend staying stock tire size on Tacoma. More wear & tear on front end / brakes & loss fuel economy. LOOKS GREAT but overall stock tire size IMO is the best... Sadly enough I love the stance of 2/1 lift & 265's and I can afford the cost so why not

[@RobMotive]

Yup…there’s always a trade off.

[@davidbahr8599]

I think I’m going with this setup on my 21 TRD off road. I had a 3” OME lift on my 2nd gen Tacoma with aftermarket UCA’s. The ride was fine but couldn’t get rid of the squeaking from the uniballs and the CV axles didn’t last very long with the increased angle.

[@RobMotive]

This is a good alternative I think. Shouldn’t harm any of the factory parts👍

[@scotmetcalf2745]

Good information,this is the problem folks never take into consideration or I assume so,is whenever you make any changes,bigger tires,wheels it affects the stock components. Have a great day

[@jeep1987]

​@@scotmetcalf2745yes you are right but it takes such little work to get it all adjusted in people just don't know what they are doing then wonder why it rides rough haha

[@Yohanyothan]

5:06 the tire is ~1” taller than stock, so your truck sits half that value higher than before, as the axel is attached to the center of the wheel, not the top of the tire.

[@garydp9760]

I am in total agreement. It will always only be 1/2 of the difference in height. Sorry for those of you that didn't get it.

[@Fuh-Qu]

How would I offset my Tacoma to -10? Is there a certain wheel spacer you recommend?

[@RobMotive]

Here’s what I had on my Tundra: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bF6nk4doibaVotE

[@finditfixitmechanics]

Great video Rob! I stayed fairly stock on my 2020 OffRoad and only switched the shocks to Bilestein 5100’s all around. Set the front shocks at 3rd notch for 1.2 lift for level stance. Better than stock now with this set up. Super smooth ride, no lean on curves or nose dive on heavy braking.

[@RobMotive]

Sounds great to me👍

[@d.phothirath5084]

Sounds like a great setup ! I'm lookin to upgrade my 4Runner

[@heyyall9037]

Would you say the 5100’s are better off-road than the stock shocks? Thank you in advance!

[@Carlos-ln1lx]

Yo I'm looking for some help with a 5100 setup, could use some advice! Bought a set front and rear, front is adjustable 0-2.5, rear is set at 2.5. Looking for just a 1-2" lift max to not have to mess with any cv joints or anything. Also got an AAL, trying to see if I need different rear shocks? Or skip the aal? Confused on how much lift this will actually give.

[@finditfixitmechanics]

@@heyyall9037 In my personal opinion yes, they are beefier than stock.

[@ethanbodine9741]

I have an eibach leveling kit on my sr5 4 cylinder along with 31" off road tires and it rides so much better, plus it does great on the trails

[@RobbDzzz]

Where the ride quality is lost the most is in the loss of down travel. Many lift as high as they can, when the wheel can’t drop independently of the truck, also putting the geometry at a disadvantage in the initial stroke of the shock/spring combo all causing a causing a harsh ride (the chosen shock and spring can can have an effect no doubt, but the single biggest issue is loss of down travel). Secondly unsprung weight is a large factor on both ride quality, handling and overall performance. I use a 285/70 17, load C that is lighter than a 265/75 16 load E. I give up absolute height (about 2” upfront over stock) for immaculate ride using extended travel fox coil overs so that my truck is sitting just over halfway above the middle of the travel. Truck rides like a well controlled Cadillac on the road and a sports car that loves to be pushed in the dirt. I will stipulate that the truck in stock form is far more capable than what most people will ever use, buy it drive it and adjust slowly. Do just wheels and tires as you suggest. The look is great ride should be pretty darn good and it’s much more cost effective if you don’t need or want that extra height or capability.

[@chriscooley4633]

I just leveled my TRD Offroad and the shocks where upgraded made my ride better. Have the TRD shocks with the TRD leveling kit. Thanks for the info on the tires.

[@rickeycooley9139]

Hi cool man, I love my 18 model but the tires are about wore out. Fixing to put a set of BFG all terrain k20. Mine is a TRDOFF Road. Tell me more about that cool name.

[@krazylilman09]

Is that the trd lift kit?

[@chriscooley4633]

@@krazylilman09 yep! Went to the Toyota dealership and had the TRD lift kit put in. Got a new Sincere for it as well as the TRD pro grill

[@chriscooley4633]

@@rickeycooley9139 yep I have. 2018 TRD Offroad too. Really enjoying it. Got a lot of plans for it.

[@GeorgeSawtooth]

So to confirm: what size are those tires? I have a 2019 Tacoma with the stock tires and want larger ones without the lift.

[@RobMotive]

Have a look: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH-xiH18mb5grtk

[@mrk8521]

I have a similar setup. Except I have the 4runner trd pro 17in wheels. I believe they're a +4 offset. 265/70r17 k02s. And you're right. It definitely puts the lift on the back burner. Especially on a daily driver. My truck actually rides noticeably better than with the stock tires. It's way less bouncy over bumps. Makes me not want to mess with the suspension for now. And couldn't be happier with the k02s. People say they're terrible on wet roads. But, in the almost 2 years I've had them, I haven't had any issue in all types of rainy conditions. Plus they're fantastic in snow.

[@RobMotive]

Can’t beat stock for the best ride! Hard to find a good balance 🤔

[@lawsonolbrych4179]

My Tacoma has the 17” wheel. Would the 265/70R17 tire work well with it without rubbing?

[@user-ej1bq4bq2w]

@@lawsonolbrych4179 yes

[@PolkAudio-dv3bq]

I also removed side running boards. Makes it look better & looks higher. I too never used them & rub'd legs each time I got out

[@CarlosSanchez-hu9wf]

I love the look of it . What is the tire size and brand ? Thanks

[@RobMotive]

Have a look: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH-xiH18mb5grtk

[@cjwright1960]

I love my lift, ride is 100% better than stock. Bilstien 6112 up front, UCAs, OME coils for the added weight of winch and bumper. 5160 in the back with Eibach AAL. The stock shocks (bilstiens on TRD OR) are budget shocks. Truck measures 39” at the top of the fender well on all 4 corners now. the stock setup has the driver side lower than the passenger by about 3/8-1/2” depending on fuel load.

[@RobMotive]

Sounds good👍

[@user-ej1bq4bq2w]

What's the effect been on your mileage? Thinking about going the same route with 6112's and 5160's on 265/70 17's (wild peaks)

[@cjwright1960]

@@user-ej1bq4bq2w get about 16 avg

[@thomasschwab1294]

Great video, thanks! Any change to the speedometer with those larger tires? My TRD Off-Road comes standard with the 265/70R16 so the 75s would be exactly 1" larger in overall diameter. Just curious if you found the Speed was a tick off?

[@RobMotive]

Yup, anytime you go to a larger diameter tire it will affect the speedometer 👍

[@allenshafer7666]

Great info. I'm getting ready to put 265 75 R 16s on my "22 TRD OR Tacoma. Which wheels do you have?

[@RobMotive]

Have a look: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoeQiJt7lLKCfdk

[@hd114ul7]

That looks sweet like that. My wife's Limited has 265/60 R18. I was thinking 275s and slight offset for summer and factory wheels back on and under for winter. On my Superduty I had a set of 315s that were huge on 17s. It looked super cool. The down side was mileage and they would throw road splash on both sides of my mirrors and up the sides of the truck. They also made my windows dirty resulting in scratched glass when rolling them down. My steering wheel also needed more effort to turn. Big huge tires look cool but they destroy your paint and shorten the lifespan of bearings and suspension parts. I am going to first try your approach on hers. Its hers and I don't want her to be unhappy. The other down side is aggressive tires are super noisy on the highway.

[@justinsoler0614]

Hi I just bought a Toyota Tacoma 2023 4x4. So I like that idea without lifting the truck what is the size of that tire or the biggest with a -10 thanks Justin

[@RobMotive]

Have a look: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppO9n6ieh7Wee7ssi=EnpPw_OEdSE6ENpK

[@chrispeaslee6095]

If you're only lifting for esthetics, this is fine. If you're looking for functionality, it's not going to give much of a lift over stock. Also, keep in mind that a tire that is 1" taller than another, you're only gaining a half inch in ground clearance. Measure from the center of the wheel, not the ground to the top of the tire.

[@jonathanmorgan4916]

Hey Rob, yeah I think you gained .5 inches as that is half of your diameter increase. What ever it is it looks nice :). I asked my mechanic friend about the ride quality you are referring to and yes, low end lifts often reduce your ride quality. He said his boss had just had him install 19,000 dollars worth of lift kit on his raptor and the ride quality was amazing. He told me DO NOT CHEAP OUT ON YOUR LIFT. Spacers are garbage. Actual suspension lifts increase travel. After hours of conversation with him I started my information quest and ended up settling on Fabteck’s nicest 3 inch lift. New resi shocks and coils all four corners, new leaf springs, new UCA’S. Increase of travel front and rear to 10 inches. From what I have been able to learn from other professionals that install these systems, the ride quality should actually be better than stock, let’s hope. Kit has been on back order for three weeks and shipped today. Already have the wheels and tires waiting. Went with some bronze Icon compressor wheels 17 x 8.5 0mm offset and wrapped them up in some 285 70r17 BFG KO2’s. Can’t wait for it to get here. Oh, truck it’s going on is my 2020 Barcelona metallic red TRD off-road. It took over a month of research to establish wheel selection, offset, backspace,tire size. Happy to share what I have learned with anyone. Bout a 6500 dollar mod.

[@RobMotive]

Sounds good. What are you doing about the CV axles? With that height, the angle change can cause damage.

[@jonathanmorgan4916]

@@RobMotive I too was concerned about this issue. I called Fabtech and questioned one of their technicians on this exact subject. What started it was me going through the parts list and not seeing any diff spacers included. I was informed that the diff spacers included by some other companies (not naming names) actually do more damage. These spacers only drop the front of the diff, essentially tilting it. This creates problems as the fluid can not lubricate properly out of level. To properly drop the diff one needs to also drop the back of it where it is bolted to the frame. Fabtech believes that this is actually more damaging than the angle created by a mere 3 inch height change. That is why they do not include them on the 3 inch kit. I was also assured that the angle would not create long term problems down the road. So as of this point I feel reassured enough to take it off of my possible problem radar.

[@RobMotive]

I would disagree with them. The severity of the angle was severe enough to tear one of my boots and all of the grease spun out.

[@jonathanmorgan4916]

@@RobMotive well that’s not good. I will be joined by my mechanic friend for the install, I will ask him what he thinks about the angle. Fabtech includes a 5 year 60,000 mile power train warranty with this kit. For $3,900 they better have a few things figured out. I’ll be sure to let ya know if there are ever any problems.

[@RobMotive]

Just something to be aware of. I wouldn’t mention it if I hadn’t experienced it first hand😬

[@chuyhdz3082]

I went with Rough Country front coil over 3.5" Suspension Lift Kit with Vertex Reservoir Shocks in the front and 3" in the rear with and as for tires 265x70x18.9 -12 rides smooth and no rubbing

[@RobMotive]

Nice👍👍

[@tyzok23]

I just level my tacoma and put 18×10 and I love it, the look the smooth drive and the traction with 285/60/18 tires

[@RobMotive]

Sounds awesome! 👍

[@timothyneeley9963]

Super helpful, just bought the same truck 2021 SR 4x4 used. But it’s wheels tires and step-up are stock and it has grandpa truck look to it. I’ll definitely start here

[@FA113NZ0MB13]

I just lifted my TRD-Off-road and love but now I need to change the needle bearing bc I have vibes now. I would suggest if you lift your truck with a whole new from and rear suspension that to do either add a leaf or a whole new leaf package so your truck is level.

[@RobMotive]

Depends on how high you go I think🤔

[@Lonewolve1988]

I prefer OME heavy kit works excellent on every Toyota I own,improves the ride and handling

[@scotmetcalf2745]

Man Rob killer wheels and tires and I bought the exact same truck as you in 4x4 and love you share your experience negative or positive! Save someone from investing a shit ton of money only to lose truck components and ride. Have a great day

[@RobMotive]

Thanks Scot. Happy Thanksgiving🍗

[@josmaelpichardi8966]

hey rob I just want to get the look but I don't wanna mess the ride. what's your advice to fit 275/70 R17 BFG KO2’s in a tacoma TRD sport 2023 ? thank you rob.

[@RobMotive]

Have a look (I’d also go with Falcon Wildpeak AT3W. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppO9n6ieh7Wee7ssi=yOrJDN8VXiKRInxu

[@billm4138]

If the tire is 1.5 inches taller you gain half that in lift our .75 inches.. All great info as most of newer truck owners don't really off road seriously...

[@ryannewazada2102]

Aloha and good morning Rob 🙏. Your analysis are valid to recommend and reconsider the lift option for the Tacoma or the Gladiator. The cost to using and to install are enormous. Plus, you stated earlier your prior video that the ride and fuel costs will be rough and expensive. Plus, you stated that it's not very smart to damage your vehicle in doing off-road activities as the repairs are too expensive. Many consumers are benefitting from your wisdom and experience with your humble honesty for not lifting the Tacoma or any other vehicles itself. Tremendous video Rob. 😇😎🥳🤠💥💫👌🤙👍🤜🤛🙌🙏👀

[@RobMotive]

Thanks Ryannew. Happy Thanksgiving 🦃

[@titirititiri6360]

I have a 3” lift, 33”s upper and lower uca, cab mount chop, rear lift springs, 1.25” wheel spacers, trd Baja suspension lift with 1” top plate spacer. I drive my taco like I do my RzR 1000 xp . After re gearing my gas mileage is about the same, and 3 years after the mods I have had zero issues so far. I drive it hard and fast, then put her away wet

[@lanuch58]

Completely new to this but really enjoyed your video and love your setup. Looking to move from Ford Edge to Tacoma. So here's the stupid question (like I said, just learning about this). To get your -10 offset do you buy wheels with that offset or do you add spacers or something else? Thanks for your patience.

[@RobMotive]

Hey Robert! As they say..."No question is stupid"! Ask away! You can go either way actually (to move the wheels/tires out). However, I'd go with a negative offset wheel to achieve the goal👍

[@ncironhorse8367]

eBay all day for those emblems. I agree on the tire size to gain some "lift". I'll be doing that once my stock tires are ready to be replaced.

[@jdvoorhees2]

Hi Rob, Truly enjoyed your perspectives, Less money, no ride sacrifice, great look. I have a 2020 TRD Offroad LONGBED, 16" stock. Any down sides, or different advice you would offer? Thanks.

[@RobMotive]

I love this setup. I wouldn't change a thing👍

[@jmarshall101]

I lifted my tacoma 2” with bilstein 5100. The 5100 are good shocks supposedly better on road than the stock ones wit 375/70/17 tires. Couldnt be happier

[@RobMotive]

Nice👍

[@paetynparman8896]

New Tacoma owner here. I put a shell on and plan to build a platform for storage and camping. Should be about 500-600 lbs maximum with everything installed. I would like to have some support in the rear so my suspension doesn't degrade over time. And I'm not eager to install a whole new suspension. Would your method in the video be my best option?

[@RobMotive]

That or more robust leaf springs.

[@rafaelrosas1719]

Great looking truck! I bought method 701 wheel that are 16s with a 0 offset with the same tires as yours and they look great. There is not really any poke but they look good. Thanx for the advice.

[@richardreiter66]

Since you put on bigger tires did you readjust your headlights or does your truck have auto adjust headlight?

[@RobMotive]

I did not. I probably should though😬

[@richardreiter66]

@@RobMotive Yep you are probably upsetting a lot of oncoming drivers. We have a lot of trucks around here that have been jacked up or bigger tires and their LED headlights are really aimed wrong.

[@wesrobb-h3m]

Get the bilsteins 5100's best budget setup. And #1 shock sold. Kit for front n rear is around 500$ 0-2in lift 👌

[@romand123]

Looking at getting a stage II spring pack for out back because I run a 400lb DCU contractor cap and all my work tools when I'm not towing so I'm hoping the ride will sit and feel the way it does with the factory springs and no weight out back.

[@grizzlys91ify]

i love my 3 1/2 inch R.C full suspension lift yes it dose ride a little stiffer but next summer im going with the 6" vertex lift

[@RobMotive]

Awesome 👍👍

[@thebassclef007]

I spent $35 for some Streetrays top plate spacers (.5” thick spacer = 1” of lift) and I didn’t have to disassemble the front coilovers (they just use the stock upper bolts and come with new nylon lock nuts, which are shorter so they fit on there fine and safely). Best part is, I kept the factory ride, got a 1” higher, and spent almost nothing for the front since I put them in myself in under 2 hours. I also got a 3 leaf progressive add-a-leaf in the back and it rides the same as it did before too (if there’s any difference in ride quality, it’s not enough for me to notice at all - but I have more payload capacity now). After adding a camper shell right after the lift, I’m sitting exactly 1” higher in the rear that I was before the AAL and the shell. The AAL was about $220 and it took about 2 hours to install myself also. All together with a Firestone lifetime alignment afterwards, I’m in to the whole thing for right about $425 total... 1” lift all around and I maintained the factory rake and ride. For just a 1” lift, I couldn’t justify spending the money to replace the front shocks with 5100s like most people, especially when my stock Bilsteins only have 8K miles on them. Super happy with how it all came out. I’m thinking after looking at your stance Rob, I may have to get some 1.25” wheel spacers (which with my stock Off Road wheels, would be about the same as your -10mm offset wheels). Do you have any rubbing at all with your new wheels and tires Rob?

[@RobMotive]

Without any lift there is some rub.

[@RoundTownWithMike]

Cool video! I always loved my trucks lifted. But as a contractor and as I get older, I like them stock. Hey, my truck is a 2006 with stock shocks and struts. Can you recommend the BEST shocks and struts for a 2006 Tacoma SR5 4 door (2 wheel drive)???? Thanks!

[@RobMotive]

I’d go with Bilsteins.

[@timmyadam3542]

I put 255/75/17s on trd pro wheels. Little more height, hurt the fuel economy a touch, but oh well. Truck handles like stock, looks better. Just select lighter rubber

[@rockkstah2550]

Highly recommend Bilstein 5100’s for front and back to remain in the stock ride.

[@acm0810]

Good job. ! with the bigger tires no need to lift . Agree! I do have the 285/70/17 -5 offset And they don’t rub and look great. I do get asked if I lifted ! in fact, one day I parked next to a TRD pro stock and my sport look wider and bigger LOL The guy with the pro was not happy !

[@RobMotive]

Lol! That’s awesome! Love it😂

[@johnjl3483]

Hello, let me see some pics!

[@Lunatic_Lou]

What is the tire size you chose here. Looks great

[@RobMotive]

Here ya go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH-xiH18mb5grtk

[@ArcheryRuleZ]

Thanks Rob , sorry if this is a dumb question but if I just want to load about 1200lb in the back every once in a while, would you recommend the old man emu +330lb leaf springs? It says they add a 2.75” lift , so also some shocks and struts that say they also add around 2.75”? Plus some bigger tires , thanks for the advice on the -10offset rims . Thanks for the video!!

[@sergiiocuriel]

You didn't link or me too. What brand are those? Also I don't know anything about offset. How do you achieve the -10 offset? Do I buy something else?

[@RobMotive]

Not sure what you’re asking?

[@johngreen2510]

Rob...really like these wheels/tires. Are these SCS wheels? Thanks in advance bud!

[@RobMotive]

Thanks. Have a look: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH-xiH18mb5grtk

[@terryosowski8143]

Disagree ! I have the expensive Fox 2.5 Reservoir with the DSC adjusters and 3” Spring Loaded and my truck rides absolutely amazing fantastic I couldn’t be any happier !!!! And I’m running 285/70 17 Nitto Terra Grappler G2s

[@RobMotive]

Sounds good👍

[@robertskinner3068]

The stock 245/75/16 and the 265/75/16 tire have the same height. The difference is in the width not the height or radius.

[@jesserosales4540]

Thank you Rob, I have a black 2021 Tacoma 4x4 Offroad and I like your tire option better. Keep it up with the good work. 😎

[@RobMotive]

Thanks Jesse👍

[@boblafountaine9560]

I knew we thought alike Rob, I’ve had my SR since February and put the same exact 265x75x16 with KO2’s with a -10 offset. I also have the metallic gray. The only reason I went with running boards is because I didn’t like the underbody showing like it does but the more I look at yours the more I like that it looks lifted and it looks a little more clean. You just may have convinced me to remove my running boards. Great video as usual!

[@RobMotive]

Bob, you are a man of great taste! Gotta say, I love the look without the steps👍

[@boblafountaine9560]

@@RobMotive thanks Rob!

[@tommcdonough6086]

Loose the predator tube steps , my 22 Tacoma Sr access cab 4x4 came with them, took them off after six months they just get in my way, 5 mins. Poof gone truck looks better and cleaner without them.

[@BenChavez56]

Nice. You traded the Blue one for the same same MGM color. I been using the same setup +1 tire and took off steps. Hard to believe it's been 5 years I've had it like that. Still get people asking me if it's lifted. When you live in an area with a lot of parking garages the lift can also limit where you can park.

[@ronjerris1942]

With this new tire size, how much does this effect your Speedometer and Odometer ?

[@RobMotive]

Stay tuned. I’ll have a video up on that soon👍

[@bretoneer]

Noticeable, particularly filling up with gas. I have a 2011 SR5 with 265/75/16’s, stock suspension (too soft) and stock rims. I’ve owned the truck since new. 4 liter w 4 doors and 6’ bed. You will find that when you fill up your fuel economy seems to have magically gone down via the trip meter reading. I’m sure the slightly heavier / less aerodynamic tires vs stock play a roll / more insprung mass for the engine to push - but the slower rotating tires play a roll too. Don’t know how to recalibrate the onboard computer to get a more accurate readout, but you will notice the diff.

[@acousticguitars123]

Also you could not put bigger tires but slightly smaller tires to correct the gearing problem, then you really have saved a ton of money and you can still off road and look cool. that is what I plan to do but I will also do a leveling kit to make the stance better!

[@prepareandprotect]

I went with 275 75 16 on my 2nd gen. It did rub when I was turning hard with a dip in the road but only very slightly on inner fender liner. I went with this size because I would have a spare same size. Tried some Cooper tires from Pep Boys. 3 out of 4 were out of round so I kept the good one as a spare. I had to just about force the Pep Boys manager to come take a ride with me sir and you will see why I am not buying these tires. After one ride he agreed and refunded my money. I got to keep the spare for my troubles.

[@RobMotive]

That’s a bummer! But good that they did give you the spare 👍

[@oscarcamargo5601]

Nice I’m going to that to my truck I was thinking of lift it but I just ganna do the bigger tires thank you

[@EvanBlaine94]

Great vid. I’m gonna take over my lease, and was thinking of what mods to make. This is the food for thought I need

[@overlandvoyager2780]

I have a 2011 taco that I put bilstein 5100 adjustable preload shocks with a 2" in front and 1" rear.I went with 265/5/17.No noticeable difference in the ride quality.

[@Medallo2706]

Hey Rob! I have a similar set up but with a -12 offset. I am rubbing a little and was curious to see if that was why you removed the front mud flaps? I believe that's where it is rubbing but I'm not 100% sure

[@RobMotive]

Definitely couldn’t have flaps with my setup.

[@Utoobwatchers]

The Tacoma rides rough anyhow. I have. 3 in front and 2 in back and I love the firm ride and I run 285/75/16s and it looks great

[@chrisdakins2010]

Great video! I’m still in my 2012 off road. When I do buy new I will leave it alone! I kept breaking leaf springs so added a leaf. Truck looked like a friggin hot rod! So then did 1.75 billstein in the front and new bilsteins in the rear. The truck rides tougher than anything I’ve ever driven and I’ve had TJ jeeps! Also running 265 75 16’s but they’re E rated which doesn’t help.

[@jerrymiller5022]

-10 offset is wat my wheels are and imo are perfect poke as well. 260/70/r16 KO2's with 2"inch medium duty OME SUSPENSION LIFT. (OME struts, shocks, leaf spring pack and added OME UCA'S) Drives absolutely amazing. Much better than stock to me even

[@RobMotive]

Very nice👍

[@bretthoffman2128]

I like the concept. How does this effect Your Alignment from Stock to What it Is now? Did it effect Speedometer Accuracy? If Anything, I’ll look at the shock upgrade

[@RobMotive]

Needs an alignment, no Speedo affect👍

[@bRolland]

Was thinking a 2.5" lift for my 2024 Taco TRD Sport. Now I'm thinking I can just try tires first.

[@RobMotive]

Good idea👍

[@rastersplatter]

I respectively disagree. Leveled my 2022 TRD Off Road with simple 3" spacers in the front, 1" in the back. Changed the wheels & tires to 17" Method 704s, and the rubber is 285/70R17 KO2. This is how Toyota should have sold it and it looks and rides great, way better than stock. Of course, ovtune myself, I wouldn't pay anyone to do this tune for me. In a year before I go off-roading plan to replace all 4 corners with top of the line fox gear but that's a totally different project and ride & double the $$. Today it's just a very cool daily driver. I spent under $4K. You would love love love driving my truck today.

[@ratoncolorado7227]

The only lift I plan to do on my 20 TRD is a rear add a leaf for towing and a body lift if I can find one which is the main goal since it makes maintenance and cleaning considerably easier.

[@Sagemeister007]

your tacoma is so awesome looking! I lifted my 97' 5 lug with spindle and afterwards, it rode rough and uncomfortable on long distance drive.

[@RobMotive]

Thanks. Did you put yours back to stock to get a better ride?

[@Sagemeister007]

@@RobMotive I did.

[@richardfernandez8479]

Rob ,been thinking of changing my low beam headlights on my 2019 sr5 tacoma. What brand do you recommend?

[@richardfernandez8479]

Want some LED'S. headlights

[@RobMotive]

I’d try Headlight Revolution👍

[@rockkstah2550]

Question, are those rims/wheels 16X7 or 16x8 at -10 offset?

[@vr6trooper]

thank you! That’s a nice stance! I don’t own a Tacoma… yet… in the market as I type. I don’t want a lift kit but I really like the fact that all you need are bigger tires. Looks really good! I think you also sold me on getting an sr5 instead of spending more in a trail ready truck. I’m never going to go off-roading but I still like the look. Make fun of me if you want haha idc. But thanks for the video

[@Idonotknowthisman]

I do I have this exact set up! I like it... I do have side steps for the kids to easily hop on and out but overall it works. I have a brush guard that's increases the rake so I might throw on a leveling kit since I'm not hauling any trails with the truck. What do you think?

[@stevepadilla9729]

My Son has the Tacoma with that small door and not a Four door truck. The suspension is stiff, I believe it’s meant for a work style truck. The back of the truck is about 2” inches higher than the front. What do you think about those spacers to install on the front shocks? Those tires and wheels look great. He has stock 17’s on his truck, I am going to pass this on to him, I wanted to buy him tires and rims, this would be cool.

[@RobMotive]

I’d recommend Bilstein 5100 adjustable shocks for the front to level out the truck. Spacers will make the truck even stiffer.

[@stevepadilla9729]

@ thank you for the advice and recommendation. Where do you suggest I should buy them at? It doesn’t matter of the year I think his is a 2017.

[@RobMotive]

@stevepadilla9729 You should be able to get them anywhere that sells shocks or your installation shop. You should verify you’re getting the right ones for your year.