Why I'm Selling My PANERAI after a Month

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@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial Жыл бұрын
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@edmundwyss
@edmundwyss Жыл бұрын
I was a watch collector for years but the prices are so high now and all these watch channels in my feed encourage me to buy $7000+ watches on a regular basis. How many people can do this? Don’t you have other expenses like mortgage payments or your kid’s college tuition? Feels like a bubble and I’m out of the game. Such a shame because I still have my grails.
@whereRbearsTeeth
@whereRbearsTeeth 11 ай бұрын
It’s definitely not a hobby for anyone who doesn’t have a considerable amount of disposable income.
@k9teamzagrebskolazapse149
@k9teamzagrebskolazapse149 11 ай бұрын
It can be done if you are focused on your life. No debt, not buying with cards rather ewry exe. 2 ares yust put aside 300€,$ and you hawe 7000+€ and you don't feal it yust not buy stupid things. . Ewry hobby is expensive MTB full susp. Cost 4,500€ whic is on the fence and in 1 are you put 2,3t€ in bike. That I don't understand . 2 kids 4grand for bikes .😅that is robery. I wish for Christmas's Panerai 44 :)) yust one .
@Zyklop223
@Zyklop223 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree with you! Watch prices have increased over the moon. Glad that I purchased my SMP in 2020 during low price period and my Avenger Chrono 43 used for a very good price. But I wouldn't buy the SMP for that current price... seems I am out of this game as well before it even started. But I am more than happy with my two stunning pieces❤
@alvarotorrent5966
@alvarotorrent5966 10 ай бұрын
agreed, prices are crazy and over 1 or 2k you get less and less improvements for your money. Plus, the way some KZbinrs talk about watches and how they make them feel...
@boyka2750
@boyka2750 8 ай бұрын
The solution is to unsubscribe from these watch channels.
@jkacnt
@jkacnt Жыл бұрын
Keep the 915! An in-house movement with eight days of power reserve is phenomenal! No doubt that it’ll cost a bit to service, but that’s high horology for you
@bendmountainbiker
@bendmountainbiker Жыл бұрын
I own the 915. Great watch!!!
@waterfordrs22
@waterfordrs22 Жыл бұрын
It’s not a high horology piece. Power reserve isn’t a complication, it’s easily the most over rated spec on the market. A massive PR only matters if you never wear the watch. Many Panerai don’t even have a seconds hand let alone a date window- so how hard is it to set the time? Either way in order to get the full power reserve time, you’ve got a couple options- one is you need to wear the bell out of your watch for several days, for a full work day and then some, or you need to do a whole lot of time winding the watch. All that just so you can put it away for a week and still come back to it running? Way overrated. The time spent winding a watch with such a PR, you could have set the date in time and been on to other things faster. Don’t buy a watch based on specs alone.
@albertopolini1970
@albertopolini1970 Жыл бұрын
@@waterfordrs22io la riserva di carica del mio 915 la trovo COMODISSIMA. E pazienza se ogni 9,5 giorni devo perdere 3-4 minuti x caricarlo !
@waterfordrs22
@waterfordrs22 Жыл бұрын
@@albertopolini1970 If you’re wearing it actively for almost ten hours a day, sure it’s going to wind itself sufficiently to make it to the next day. That would be the case even if the power reserve was something more modest such as say 50-70 hours. No problem. You are wearing the watch daily and possibly relatively active. For someone who simply rotates through several watches a day or week (not my style) they would likely need to spend those three or four minutes winding the watch by hand. It’s a bit of a false economy if the watch is mostly sitting.
@whereRbearsTeeth
@whereRbearsTeeth 4 ай бұрын
@@waterfordrs22you are absolutely f’ing. clueless. The 915 is a manual wind watch. It doesn’t have a rotor and it doesn’t wind itself when you wear it.
@Ray.J
@Ray.J Жыл бұрын
One thing I've learned is just as there's buyer's remorse, there is also seller's remorse. Many decide to sell a watch only to kick themselves later down the road. And sometimes they even offer to buy the watch back. Or hunt for another one elsewhere. It is also true that the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence and your story about the rugged dude wearing the more rugged watch reminded me of that. If you didn't already own it, had he been wearing yours I bet you still would have lusted after it. Both are great watches from a brand loaded with history. Neither one could be classified as a "mistake" purchase. Not by any means. YMMV. Keep up the fun content. I liked the video even before you reminded me!
@jjDemir
@jjDemir Жыл бұрын
Dude seriously. I wish I could go back in time on like 3 watches and not sell.
@SuperBechti
@SuperBechti Жыл бұрын
Well said. I regret all the watches I sold. I did sell them to buy other ones but looking back I know that I should have done the financial effort to buy the new ones without selling any of my watches.
@andycandyOK
@andycandyOK Жыл бұрын
true, I bought back a couple of watches (that is, the same model)
@birdman7083
@birdman7083 Жыл бұрын
177 all the way! You can have the Unitas 6497 movement serviced by any competent watchmaker. As we know, Panerai never made watches (except for the Egiziano) but only supplied the dials. Rolex made the case and movement for Panerai. Also used were Cortebert and Angelus movements so it certainly would have made sense for Giuseppe Panerai (pretending he was alive and still owned Panerai today) to equip the watches with a unitas 6497 movement. Let’s not forget that these were bare-bones military watches made for human torpedo frogmen!
@thetimist
@thetimist Жыл бұрын
Do the right thing...bring the PAM 177 to our next watch meet and let me take a closer look at it...and then give it a nice home 😃🙌
@spiro7460
@spiro7460 8 ай бұрын
Bought new Luminor Chronograph Pam01109 at an AD (Nov 2023)....my favorite daily now even over my sea-dweller anniversary. I want to say that I have wanted a Panerai for years, not necessarily this model, and finally pulled the trigger (also an impulse buy). I actually get a lot of compliments on it (especially from watch enthusiasts). The distinctive case you can see from across the room is really the key to these watches (sort of like the Rolex date bubble) but the overall look and feel is just lux/high quality.
@threehander
@threehander Жыл бұрын
Just a correction; Panerai uses Grade 2 Titanium on their models.
@WatchUnwind
@WatchUnwind Жыл бұрын
I recently bought a Panerai pam510 the 8 day and it’s amazing. It’s quickly become my favorite watch I own.
@MCFCTheMadHatter
@MCFCTheMadHatter 3 ай бұрын
I’ve had my PAM 422 since 2015 and it still never gets old which I think is down to the rose gold hands, the acutely domed sapphire and how it refracts light at different angles on the hands makes them glow and float above the dial in a way over yet to see with other watches. Funny thing is, I never noticed this until after I bought and I’m so happy I did.
@ManfromJapan12
@ManfromJapan12 Жыл бұрын
I too get the buyers remorse. I recently returned a piece, a very expensive piece at that. I kept it in its case and I didn't remove any of the plastic protection coatings on the bracelet, case or back. Luckily for me I am a good client of the business so they gladly refunded me and happily took the watch back. 2 days later I went back in and purchased my first choice , so it's safe to say go with your gut and if you are doubtful at purchasing like I was don't do it just for the impulsive action.
@markanthony2133
@markanthony2133 Жыл бұрын
Dude, why you go and cheat on your first love? Just keep both. They are both amazing pieces… you’re so detail oriented you’ll always be able to discern /appreciate the subtle differences .
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial Жыл бұрын
Overanalysis is my brand 😅
@classicsciencefictionhorro1665
@classicsciencefictionhorro1665 6 күн бұрын
@@WatchCrunchOfficial 🤣🤣🤣
@damisu8
@damisu8 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got the titanium base model 176. Love it. Titanium all the way. The older case is more brutish, the newer models are too refined.
@phil5915
@phil5915 Жыл бұрын
Hi Max, I've learned over the years : my buying decision is mostly derived from the specs (case weight, caliber, etc.). However, what I ware is ALWAYS motivated by feelings. 177 all the way baby 😉 On a side note, I love your strap pairing, you really have an eye for this.
@albertorbinati5511
@albertorbinati5511 Жыл бұрын
For me, the 915 all day long. The thinness factor makes a huge difference. I also love it on that ostrich strap.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a beauty
@joakimdrake1677
@joakimdrake1677 Жыл бұрын
@@WatchCrunchOfficial It wasn't until recently that Panerai closed the back on the 915. When it first came out it was an open case back. I know because I have one.
@1000lightyrs
@1000lightyrs Жыл бұрын
@@joakimdrake1677 Far out man, thank you for that!! I'm hunting my perfect PAM and a 915 just came up (V serial). It has exhibition case back, but online I see the 915 has a closed case back. That explains it!
@ericmoss8344
@ericmoss8344 Жыл бұрын
Keep the 177 because of the way it makes you feel! It's unadulterated TOOL watch and you have other watches to fill that more dressy avocado-toast type of days. :) There are SO many great Pam watches out there so you can always pick up another one down the road if needed/wanted.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial Жыл бұрын
Yep, that's where I'll leaning
@wisamal-hakim5531
@wisamal-hakim5531 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely get this. To the point that the polished case is a deal breaker for me. Even with sand which lume and a better movement Matt finish, titanium are my prerequisites, no bigger than 44. Within those parameters I would consider the models they have. Some like how a polished case gets scratched up but I don’t
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial Жыл бұрын
Brushed looks the business 😎
@WestCoastAce27
@WestCoastAce27 Жыл бұрын
👍 Esp for a sports watch. Polished for dress…
@SuperBechti
@SuperBechti Жыл бұрын
Hi Max. I personally prefer your first buy since I never liked titanium cases. It gives a “dirty aspect” to the watch in my opinion. I owned a Luminor Marina since about 17 years now and I still love it. My only regret is that I owned a manual winding one that I don’t wear often enough just because the hand winding drives me crazy, but otherwise the watch looks great 😊. Actually I’m going right now to my safe to get it. I’m going to wear it for awhile ☝️
@noneofus007
@noneofus007 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree about Titanium. It feels too light and cheap on the wrist ... like a plastic Swatch. You need some heft in an expensive time piece.
@samkuong3121
@samkuong3121 Жыл бұрын
Leather diver watch is for desk diving only…. Soaked Tropical dials are for advanced collectors and auction houses.
@31hallite
@31hallite 8 ай бұрын
they come with a rubber strap to.
@1kontrabida
@1kontrabida 3 ай бұрын
Watching this video is exactly the same experience i had immediately my goal was set to have one and as years have gone by i still have it along with its other bros and brands. Love the panerais to this day and i can't help but smile watching this video because thats how i felt as well and it made me look back all those years where i was and doing at that time. Thanks for making this video and more power to ur channel.
@sackman1886
@sackman1886 8 ай бұрын
Funny about what you said about grade 2 titanium. I had the original blue pelagos that uses grade 2. I remember telling someone that it honestly felt like plastic at times. Like, it was so light, but there was something about the metal that almost felt fake. I couldn't quite describe it. Then I later had a Grand Seiko snowflake, and that titanium was luxurious and soft... wild what a difference it makes.
@luihed
@luihed Жыл бұрын
Keep the 177 for sure, i would sell the 915 for a 2 hander base model like a 112 or if you like the newer stuff then a 914... better yet a 372 if your wrist can handle it..
@PerfectTimingProductions585
@PerfectTimingProductions585 9 ай бұрын
I bought my luminor GMT on a steel bracelet and it matches to Panerai database but I never opened it or looked inside it. It’s on the steel bracelet. I personally love it because it has a big and boisterous Italian personality just like me. Over time the polish on the face has maintained its glimmer and shine while the casing gets scuffed from use over the years and dulls. I haven’t tried any other straps because the steel bracelet is rare and lovely.
@rnaden
@rnaden 9 ай бұрын
Personally, on a smaller wrist, the thinner case of the 915 is going to be a better wear despite the heavier weight.
@seraphe
@seraphe 10 ай бұрын
I don't see it as a buyer's remorse. I see the discovery of the 177 as a different experience altogether and should be separate from your ownership of the 915. The range of Panerai watches is so vast that you'd get a different kind of feel with different ones, even with the same case designs but with different materials or even finishes. (You should try one of those PAMs with brushed Brunito steel. Still steel but feels and wears very differently). I suggest keeping and enjoying both for a while.
@bonusshaker9260
@bonusshaker9260 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing, I also have a PAM177 purchase in the early 2000s in Florence Italy. I love the titanium finish because its not too blingy like the stainless steel and its a strap monster.
@rooster3265
@rooster3265 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video. I’m a small time collector with some pretty nice pieces. I bought my personal “holy grail” a year ago with the Rolex GMT Batgirl (terrible nickname). Sadly, people like us never stop looking to the next watch so here I am. Years ago, my wife bought me a leather strapped Sinn aviator watch. Black strap, case and face. I love it but I’ve also been wanting a Panerai but something different. Maybe the new Radiomir Quaranta with the white face. I’m not sure about the overlay face. Maybe a stainless case gray face Luminor. I JUST DONT KNOW. Sometimes I’ll buy an homage watch just to get the feel before dropping a ton on a watch. Ok, I’ll stop rambling. I really appreciate your take on watches. To be as knowledgeable about them without the pomposity is a gift! Please keep it up!
@PocketWatchTime
@PocketWatchTime Жыл бұрын
I own a PAM00172 and have my eyes on another. Great/fun watches.
@mikej7676
@mikej7676 6 ай бұрын
After significant research a pre-owned 177 was my first Panerai. Love it. And will keep it forever as it was my first entry. I think you can justify keeping both. At some point you may want to introduce other panerai cases. I have my eye on a pure no-seconds radiomir 45, model number TBD.
@jackmcclary2136
@jackmcclary2136 Жыл бұрын
My first Valentines Day with my now wife was a Kings game where she saw Gretzky play. Not very romantic but if she’s experiencing buyer’s remorse she’s done a great job of hiding it the past 28 years.
@Biggun-ft7bj
@Biggun-ft7bj 3 ай бұрын
The 177 is iconic imo. It was one of the first watches I chased and never was able to find one. Then I began to think about the balance between dressier and playful or tool looks. That’s why I wound up getting the 1351 which is a titanium watch
@sharmakea3116
@sharmakea3116 11 ай бұрын
The Panerai swingers metaphor was wild
@GCPlati85
@GCPlati85 Жыл бұрын
Agreed that you have to experience many different watches to learn what your tastes really are. You discover your tastes and then sometimes they change and you have to discover that too. Both watches are great. Slight nod to the 177 because of the decreased weight.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial Жыл бұрын
Frustratingly part of the journey
@user-ft2md2gd4s
@user-ft2md2gd4s 2 ай бұрын
Just discovered this channel and is right away my preferred watch channel.
@brownmcpherson5724
@brownmcpherson5724 Жыл бұрын
Take the 915 to a good jeweler and have him brush the case.
@PeteNice29
@PeteNice29 Жыл бұрын
Had a 176 for years (similar watch, without second hand of the 177). Issue I had was it's a one-trick pony. Polished/brushed watches have more variety in appearance when swapping straps. And on the strap point, finding Ti buckles isn't the easiest, and they never come on or with a strap, even from the vast majority of the best makers. That said, a simple fiberglass brushing makes it look new again, and the patina is killer as it develops. So, I'd have one again today without hesitation; just not as my primary. Daily now is the Palm Beach 466, which ticks most boxes for me other than the painted dial.
@drkesrf
@drkesrf 4 ай бұрын
The luminor case design is by far my favorite of all time. I used to own one. However their new “in house” movements are pretty much still 3rd party. They are way overpriced at retail. Getting a preowned at a discount is the way to go. Glad you found one you love.
@Anonymous-wo4zu
@Anonymous-wo4zu Жыл бұрын
I have a 176. It has quickly risen to one of my favorite daily/vacation watches. It’s lightweight, you don’t have to worry about it when going to the ocean, SUPER comfy to wear esp on the OEM rubber, under the radar (let’s face it not everyone knows panerai). Keep the 177. Word of advice - get the army green panerai rubber strap - thank me later. Hit me up with any questions!
@danieldufort2628
@danieldufort2628 Жыл бұрын
I totally understand how you are feeling and it's a difficult choice to make. I am currently shopping for a Panerai and after trying on a few, its the brushed metal to does it for me. I like the rugged feel it gives and the feeling I get when wearing this. I would go for the 177 for the looks and the feeling it gives you.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial Жыл бұрын
Brushed is the way to go!
@rajmehta6210
@rajmehta6210 Жыл бұрын
Views on the 1226 white dial sub?
@VersedNJ
@VersedNJ Жыл бұрын
Wearing a Pam915 at present. I did join watch crunch. Good luck whatever you do. 6 months still love my pam.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial Жыл бұрын
See you there!
@unimatrix888
@unimatrix888 Жыл бұрын
Nice video and thanks for sharing this! It's re-assuring to know that even a KZbin watch nerd can make missteps. Quick question. Where did you end up selling your watch? What's the best place to sell a pre-owned watch?
@tomcruz3774
@tomcruz3774 Жыл бұрын
That's a really tough choice. I'm leaning towards the titanium case one as I have a titanium watch and I love the weight and how it's darker than the usual 316L steel.
@walterhardinge-zt2ol
@walterhardinge-zt2ol Жыл бұрын
Both watches look awesome for different reasons the first has the shiny new look and will great as long a you keep it looking shiny and new ,but when it gets dinged and scratched it will look it’s appeal , but eventually it will develop what my South African fiancé refers to as ( hoeding) I’ve surely spelled it wrong) patina ,mileage, attitude . The titanium one already has it , its the truck that you got for 500 bucks and has 500,000 miles on it and still goin strong !!!
@crazedspam999
@crazedspam999 8 ай бұрын
When I bought my Omega Seamaster Professional 300M in the Chrome dial color way, I had a lot of mixed feelings. It was my first true luxury watch, it was the watch I wanted, and it marked a significant moment in my life. But the honeymoon was rocky: I spent a substantial amount of money on a watch, I bought an unpopular color way, it felt as if it was as EDC as I first believed it to be. 4 years later, I'm wearing it almost everyday, swapping between rubber and bracelet. I've grown to love it and even enjoy the dings and scratches it has accumulated, giving it a unique patina to me.
@jmsw007
@jmsw007 Жыл бұрын
I think they are different enough to justify keeping both until you're ready to move on/up. So for now, enjoy both. I had a 310 and 244 at one point. I sold the 310 5 years later to fund an upgrade.
@johnnyarsenault9124
@johnnyarsenault9124 Жыл бұрын
Strap wise: ostrich leather is beautiful but for every leather chosen there’s a visual impact: 1: plain (high quality, silky smooth, etc.) 2: ostrich leg: (very complex patterns: rough scales and/or feather plucked: very affirmatif statement), a bit like horned alligator 3: ostrich feather plucked: very rich pattern which we often see on Patek Philippe watches(tobacco colored) Of course these are all available in a variety of colors. These in high grade come around: $200 + figures, waiting time is a few months! Sadly we didn’t see your properly ! 😢 Each of your watches have a special look, if you can try to keep both 👍
@Number_006
@Number_006 Жыл бұрын
Nice video and congrats! I continue to both love and hate Panerai. Love the watches but really dislike the corporate leaders mismanagement of the brand. But, all that said, I get why you’d want one (me too!). I honestly think I prefer the 915, but I understand your choice!
@artrusso6455
@artrusso6455 Жыл бұрын
Haha - Bought my 177 a dozen years ago and still love it! Great seeing you speak of it 👍
@trebm3
@trebm3 Жыл бұрын
great video and I love the subtle emotion you exhibit while talking about these watches. We can tell you love them both.
@gossipwatch
@gossipwatch Жыл бұрын
I know the feeling of you being in love with a new watch and suddenly you see another amazing one.. the story keeps on and on and it will continue. we will never be happy with only one watch.
@eggsII
@eggsII Жыл бұрын
This might sound goofy… I modded an SKX a couple years ago. I’d fallen out of love with it until… Uncle Seiko arrived at my door with a custom curved waffle rubber strap. As for the Panerai, I agree that the Ti is maybe more “tooly”… maybe you have an office Panerai and a beach/ hiking/ weekend Panerai. Totally get that “office Panerai” probably ranks it lower on the office watch list, but there might be a day that you’ve got something going on that requires that feel…
@maryo9489
@maryo9489 Жыл бұрын
I daily wear a 176 G series. Call me biased but I 100% prefer the matte toned down full titanium over the polished SS. The titanium patinas very well. I use a white ink eraser or super fine steel wool on small scratches that bother me.
@rajjena4092
@rajjena4092 Жыл бұрын
"Avocado eating city boy" - Love it. It would be inetersting to see a bead blasted 915 caseset!
@tomknj3356
@tomknj3356 Жыл бұрын
I have a 915 that I just got in April. I'm trilled with it. The 8 days of power reserve is hard to beat.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial Жыл бұрын
I know right?!
@safariguy
@safariguy Жыл бұрын
As a 177 owner, I sold my original 105 Base model because I also fell in love with the titanium case and the ability to brush out blemishes. I am now 15 years into the 177 and I will never ever let go of this watch. I am sure I would feel the same way about the 176 (same watch, without the second hand).
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial Жыл бұрын
I need to look into how to get rid of scratches
@bushpig6837
@bushpig6837 Жыл бұрын
I prefer that satin finished 177, sorry, it seems to make the watch appear smaller. Panerai look great on Corriga straps, they are also not cheap, but they have sales sometimes.
@davenordsieck6444
@davenordsieck6444 Жыл бұрын
They are way too similar to keep them both IMO. The ti version is much cooler and it sounds like it gives you that Panerai feel/experience more than the steel. No one gets a Panerai to feel subtle or refined. Go big (ti) and cash out on the shiny steel.
@cjsolarmusic
@cjsolarmusic 7 ай бұрын
That 177 is legendary... just had to snag one as my first panerai but it seems like the ultimate version of what the brand should be in my mind
@michaelcoates7475
@michaelcoates7475 Жыл бұрын
I definitely understand what you are saying about trying a new watch strap. I have a favorite watch bracelet with straight end links. And whatever watch I put it on, in my collection, suddenly becomes my favorite watch. I think I like the bracelet almost more than the watches.
@coreyasherman
@coreyasherman Жыл бұрын
I have PAM118. Like 177 it's Titanium but with a tobacco dial. I wouldn't trade it for new one. Not about specs its about feel at end of day. Also in house Panerai has no credibility. ETA is cheaper and easier to service plus vintage and neo vintage Panerai never had in house movements. It was always Rolex or ETA. The brand is about dials, lume, and cases at the end of the day. So go for feel not for movement specs.
@MWS1960
@MWS1960 2 ай бұрын
I have a PAM 88 and an 1104…..I was ready to sell the 1104 after buying an IWC Big Pilot transitional piece (new dual Peleton spring with the old 5002 face) only 115 in the world. Then an IWC miramar top gun ceramic triple date and to round it off a Rolex Sub. However I put a thin dark brown alligator strap which feels really light and a great look. I always get compliments on my Panerai.
@Vox-Populi
@Vox-Populi Жыл бұрын
Replace Panerai with Omega, and my journey was the same. PO, SM300, AT GMT. Then I found a 2000-ish SM GMT 50th. Settled.
@MustafaMuafa
@MustafaMuafa 5 ай бұрын
They both look nearly the same! However, my personal taste will definitely take me to the shinier watch, no doubt. Although I would personally prefer a thinner case for sure.
@haping1
@haping1 Жыл бұрын
Looks great, both watches. I assembled a look alike myself with a Unitas 6497 movement clone. Saves me a lot of money and I don't have to think about selling the watch or not :)
@frankv7068
@frankv7068 Жыл бұрын
Keep the 915, I have the 111 you made me re-think the same thing watching the 177 on you but after watching the titanium on your wrist by the end of the video I just like the shinier one more. It’s more original, looks more luxurious and the contrast of rugged strap and dial against the shiny bezel makes it pop just right. The titanium looks rugged but it also looks cheap and nit genuine for some reason, better yet keep the 915 and get a titanium PAM01305 but it might be too big at 47mm.
@chronoevolution1871
@chronoevolution1871 Жыл бұрын
Generally I prefer the older Panerai because for me it's the PAM character that endears them to me, and the older models just have more of that.
@justinli9484
@justinli9484 Жыл бұрын
PAM177 owner here, my vote goes to the 177 (I'm biased since it's my favorite watch), BUT I would very much like a polished Luminor for dressier occasions and leave the Titanium one on to daily duties. However, overall I would very much like the blue dial Marina but from a value point of view my next watch is going to be Grand Seiko SBGR321
@omiq7761
@omiq7761 Жыл бұрын
I'm now in the process of letting go of my Luminor Due 42mm, a true jewel and a piece of art, but I want something more rugged - I don't want my PAM to be limited just as a dress watch. After a deep dive into PAMs, I've found a 111 that could be mine for a nice price. Note, I plan to wear this mainly on summer season, meaning I can wear t-shirts and other light clothing so that the bulkiness will not interfere with the winter jacket's sleeve or anything, and the shiny steel case will have it's opportunity to glimmer in the sun. For winter I have thin Panerai inspired microbrand watch - a titanium Andersmann Classic, darker tone and warmer to the skin. Having a 177 as a winter watch could be an (expensive) option as well, maybe in the future? :D
@blasien1
@blasien1 Жыл бұрын
I got my grail Rolex Thunderbird many years ago. Should've stopped then, lots of other watches now that I like, but starting to regret the whole lot - except the Thunderbird. I think I'll feel better about all this if I cull down to a tight little collection, and then move on to another obsession
@michaelfierman3256
@michaelfierman3256 Жыл бұрын
Hey! My brother is the only other person I know with a Thunderbird. Has the blue dial with Romans. What a watch. Got it about 1999 or so
@hod6ie856
@hod6ie856 Жыл бұрын
I'm currently deep into Panerai research, and it's actually beyond confusing with all the references, so it's understandable that the PAM177 slipped past you. I always thought a 44mm Pam on my barely 7-inch wrist would be too big, but having recently tried on a 45mm Rad I realised I was worrying about nothing! Ideally I'd prefer a 42mm Luminor but I don't care for the 1950 case shape, so I've narrowed my options down to a PAM111 or PAM183, both sandwich dial, exhibition case back, same movement, effectively the same watch just Luminor vs Radiomir, but the Titanium PAM177 is also a contender. The hunt continues... My view - Keep the PAM177... because it's a better looking / feeling watch 🙂
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial Жыл бұрын
Good luck on your pam journey 🤞
@WestCoastAce27
@WestCoastAce27 Жыл бұрын
I really want a 1226 or 2223 - but just think Panerai is living in the past - at $6500-7000 my order would be in - just don’t have the value of Rolexes (yeah, I know I can’t get one at MSRP) in the $9000-11000 range.
@SiVispacemparabellum045
@SiVispacemparabellum045 Жыл бұрын
For versatility I bought the Quaranta, 40mm Luminor, it has now become glued to my wrist.
@thomaspanos
@thomaspanos Жыл бұрын
Great call on the 177. It's an iconic Panerai and a majority of us Paneristi would without question choose it over the 915. I would sell the 915 and then look into purchasing a 44mm Submersible to complement the 177. Now THAT would be a killer 1-2 punch! Thanks for your excellent work. Be well
@user-pv9cf4fr6d
@user-pv9cf4fr6d Жыл бұрын
Personal preference. 915 better overall imo with straps more catered to day to day and dressier look. 177 more rugged and more one dimension even with different straps. Just depends what you’re looking for. I think you have way better options to achieve this rugged look from Pam or different brands than 177. I recently got the 511 precious gold but was going to go for 915
@HAL-xy3om
@HAL-xy3om Жыл бұрын
My watch and I tried counselling first before looking at new straps, glad to report it worked!
@pgrossmsk
@pgrossmsk Жыл бұрын
i'll keep that PAM917 and sell the PAM 915 . titanium is just sweet on panerai as what you mentioned , its size . it gives that low key yet amazing watch . you jump to the ocean with that PAM 917 man , shows your passionate for that model :)
@joehch
@joehch 7 ай бұрын
“A new band come sometimes trigger a new perspective” right on! Subbed as well👍
@Stickybutton
@Stickybutton Жыл бұрын
I just love the bubble glass on the watch, so I bought the PAM335. Black like my outfit, hasn’t scratched it, buckle is smashed and it has been with me for 10 years. All in all, its just a watch. I wear my Apple Ultra for sports, I don’t miss anything. Get over it. Something way too precious won’t give you that much joy anyway day to day.
@barryvercueil2346
@barryvercueil2346 Жыл бұрын
177 is definitely the best choice. Freaking badass. Cheers.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial Жыл бұрын
So good 👍
@Chris._P._Bacon
@Chris._P._Bacon 2 ай бұрын
oh! I get his point......and view. I've got a few of those and definitely is not a good feeling but, it's part of the game. Can't win 'em all!!!!
@mrbillyjackson
@mrbillyjackson Жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd fool with Panerai, but I tried on a Submersible PAM 1305 and loved it. Luckily, I don't have an itch to buy more Panerai. I got a couple of high quality straps from Vintager Straps and I'm all set.
@hugohernandez3651
@hugohernandez3651 Жыл бұрын
In a world full of Omega's, Rolexes, and Grand Seikos, it is refreshing to see a Panerai's video. Thanks. I love my PAM1314.
@spoonraker
@spoonraker Жыл бұрын
Based on your own words used to describe the watches, it seems pretty obvious you prefer the 177's brushed aesthetic. Objectively there is no right or wrong answer here. It's entirely personal. Watches have never been about specs alone, especially when deciding between 2 near identical watches. The one thing I'd say before you fully commit to swapping for the 177 is be absolutely sure you're ok with the extra thickness. That's one of those things that's easy to look past when you see it on someone else or in pictures but might hit different on your own wrist. Give it time to consider.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial Жыл бұрын
Thicc with a purpose👍
@Eric_Nielsen
@Eric_Nielsen Жыл бұрын
Have had the PAM682 Submersible for over 3 years no regrets; it's my most-worn watch by far. If anything I might add a rose gold + brown dial or a steel + white dial Panerai.
@MrBaertigerchrist
@MrBaertigerchrist 4 ай бұрын
Last year I was buying my first Panerai. And I would say i pick up the right one. Pam560 with painted dial, 8 days of power reserve and 300 hundred meters water resistance. I don’t get why panerai is changing in this case
@sergiogarcia9822
@sergiogarcia9822 2 ай бұрын
I am picking up my 915 later today, I like the 177 but I don’t trust buying a used panerai, the AD gave me 12% off the retail price and 12 months finance with no interest, that’s pretty good if you ask me
@scslite5206
@scslite5206 Жыл бұрын
I can relate to your progression into PAMs. I too love the 44mm luminor in Ti. It just makes it more wearable. I have the PAM116 base dial in tobacco. Relatively produced in much smaller numbers and the only Panerai that has remained through the years in my collection. Congrats on the 177!
@TurdFergusson318
@TurdFergusson318 10 ай бұрын
I have the Navy Seal version (don’t know the number designated) but when I was trying on models it jumped out at me. It looked rugged. It’s my favorite everyday watch hands down.
@markusf6964
@markusf6964 Жыл бұрын
I do own a PAM177. The PAM1122 is the only other Panerai, which I did consider. But it was impossible to get. I would love to see a new titanium 44mm, 300m water resistant ,Luminor with sandwich dial and normal white lumen.
@jamespalsson746
@jamespalsson746 Жыл бұрын
Whatever you do, don't keep both. I think you want that brushed titanium.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial Жыл бұрын
Yep!
@DecemberNames
@DecemberNames 10 ай бұрын
I loved that video so much, it was like watching a master chef at work. The way they handled every element was so effortless and perfect, it was like they were dancing with the ingredients. And the final product was an absolute masterpiece, a symphony of flavors that left my taste buds singing. I'm so glad I watched that video, it was an experience I won't soon forget.
@FeathersMcGraw90
@FeathersMcGraw90 Жыл бұрын
I have the Panerai 177 on the mario paci sharkskin strap. Looks similar to Stallone’s with that strap. Would never sell it! Great review!
@BigNews2021
@BigNews2021 Жыл бұрын
The best solution to this conundrum is to keep both. The polished one, always on a fine leather strap. And the titanium with its rugged good looks on a rubber strap or that really cool strap that you have on in the video. They serve different purposes, so keep both. But if I were in this enviable situation and could only keep one I'd keep the titanium one. It looks so damn good.
@marijanlorencin8022
@marijanlorencin8022 10 ай бұрын
I wanted 915 exactly because of movement and fact that is polished. But I was puzzled cause in some cases I saw 915 with open case back. Until i catch the 915 with open case back in official Panerai boutique. So I needed to buy it and do not regret it! Love the watch it seems they made only 2000 pcs of 915 with open case back do not sell it. just buy another 177 if u love it so much ;)
@FlipFlopsQ
@FlipFlopsQ 8 ай бұрын
Get the PAM177 - hard to beat titanium (pun intended). BTW - the grass will always seem greener on the other side. I've learned how to admire from afar and not necessarily need to buy a watch that I fancy.
@melvinabsalom8551
@melvinabsalom8551 Жыл бұрын
Two excellent videos (915 and 177). I don’t think you have buyers remorse. I think you’re becoming Paneristi. You like the 915 so much, you immediately start looking for your next Panerai. I found this really useful. I was thinking a lot about getting a 915 and tried one on (loved it) but there was also a 564 Titanium 8 Days for sale which I was watching too. The sellers discounted that this week and it was too good to resist any longer and it’s now on my wrist. Love it! Can’t now justify a 915… yet…
@clintonshiells3095
@clintonshiells3095 Жыл бұрын
Not that my opinion matters for what suits you best, but the 915 looks better to me and it has a better movement. I’m an avocado eating city boy…
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial Жыл бұрын
Let's go!
@damianrossrealestate
@damianrossrealestate Ай бұрын
My dilemma is different. I feel I am over the whole large watch phase and considering selling my 673.
@firasal-jubouri1312
@firasal-jubouri1312 6 ай бұрын
Keep them both. These are icons and they are somehow different in material and dial colours
@xaerothehero
@xaerothehero 4 ай бұрын
The steel one just looks SOOOO much better.
@fxhood2114
@fxhood2114 11 ай бұрын
Nice. Like the rough one brushed even more 😊
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