Tudor EMBARRASSES Rolex AGAIN

[@watchfinder]

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[@watchnut]

Tudor has become what Rolex used to be, a high quality watch that is attainable.

[@chrism65]

I wear my BB GMT every day.

[@watchfinder]

Couldn’t have put it better myself!

[@joshdunn2031]

Which begs the question, what on earth has Rolex become? A new trading currency?

[@ekapris7880]

Unfortunately even Tudor becomes less and less attainable (see long waiting list and grey market)

[@sere4uall]

please find me an pelagos in the next 3-4 months at retail price...PLEASE ;) later edit: or any Tudor 41mm!!!

[@markedfortime]

"This Tudor was my favorite Rolex of the show." Best captured sentiment. 👌

[@davidoleary6631]

I wanted a Rolex right up until the point that I realized that Rolex didn't want my business. I'm over them now and I have to say the watch world got more interesting when I started looking at and buying other brands. Rolex can make all the changes they want to their watches but if you can't get one, what's the point in talking about them. Time to move on.

[@frosty4peter]

Exactly David!! Well said!

[@Tempusverum]

The whole point of a company is to do business, so they’ve made themselves irrelevant

[@vianouche1]

Because some can get them. You need to be patient and show your AD that you are serious and not a flipper. It works, event if so many entitled possible buyers pretend that it does not.

[@frosty4peter]

@@vianouche1 of course this is utterly bullshit! Who the f*** is rolleks to decide if I may or may not sell MY property which I bought with MY own money!!! When I buy something I can do the hell I want with it because I OWN it!!

[@electronicgrinsch]

@@vianouche1 I tried to be serious for 3 years and got cancelt after 3 years because the AD meant it is time to make a new list. Fuck off Rolex. Never again!

[@brianmsahin]

I think what makes Rolex so timeless is that so few people can get one in order to tell the time.😉

[@jamesrobert4106]

😄😄😄

[@xx1j]

Actually, a lot of people have Rolex tho

[@laurencefahey3132]

Yes but not the ones they really really want 🤣

[@brianmsahin]

@@laurencefahey3132 👍👍👍😂😂😂

[@isaaclee3322]

That wasn’t the case 8 years ago so I wouldn’t say that’s what makes them timeless.

[@zhicaofang2354]

It's almost like Tudor is becoming what I remembered Rolex was as a teenager: a well-respected brand that is not so revered as to scare off ordinary buyers, expensive but still attainable, classic and familiar designs, solid quality, a must-have for all the adult watch lovers, and a good piece to pass on to the next generation as a family keepsake. I am still on that never-ending waitlist of Rolex, but maybe I will allocate some budget and snatch another Tudor, most likely the Black Bay Pro.

[@bbrebozo6417]

Reverence has nothing to do with the Lolex shortage, it’s all about AD greed, flippers and gray market pirates taking advantage of the greed.

[@ashleychambers7602]

There’s no such thing as a Rolex waiting list. If you’ve a History of buying watches at your local AD you’ll get pushed to the front quicker then somebody who is unknown to them, wrong I grant you but sadly true.

[@BabyJesus66]

The promo video clips had me cracking up 😁🤣

[@Bugster987]

I keep hearing Tudor is the gateway to Rolex. Why? I know what I like design wise. It’s Tudor. Doesn’t have the same prestige but just nicer in so many ways.

[@watchfinder]

For me, Rolex was the gateway to Tudor!

[@tonymontana5052]

Ugly crown, gold plated, thick slab sided case, riveted bracelet, too much to dislike .... no thanks

[@xaviergeraets146]

I do think the small changes they made to the air king did actually improve it quite a bit but besides that I wasn't impressed

[@vianouche1]

Who cares about the Air King ? Apart people wanting to buy their first Rolex?

[@xpusostomos]

The Air King doesn't have to be your first Rolex. Truthfully it used to kind of be the black sheep of the lineup, but these days anything Rolex is sucked up by collectors.

[@istvantoth7431]

Totally agree... Most people can't even afford them so it's way easier for them to be a cockwomble and whine about 'small changes'...

[@IHWKR]

my opinion is Rolex offers a standard looking watch for a non standard price. there's nothing special about it and basically only the color changes year to year. does that truly justify a premium price? No.

[@NicholasSadlier]

The gold-faced Tudor Chronograph looks like the Timex watches you used to see next to the pick and mix counter in Woolworths

[@ashleychambers7602]

I think the E numbers from the pick & mix have affected your nogging

[@ph8077]

No idea about any of those references.

[@mrtblmrtbl]

I'm disappointed. Basically every new Tudor release is too big in some way or another, either too thick or too wide.

[@Adam-eo5ff]

I think Tudor needs to update the entire BB58 lineup with their new T-Fit clasp that debuted on the BB58 Bronze, and that new crown from the Pro would be lovely.

[@arch173ct]

The crown makes sense on the Tudor Black Bay Pro but it wouldn’t make sense on the rest of the black bay line. The rest of the line all have rotating bezels with the teeth matching those of the crown. I would hate it if they added this crown to the rest of the line. Also the pro looks a lot like my Tudor black bay steel and I wouldn’t swap them as 14mm or so at 41mm is acceptable but at 39mm isn’t that a little too much?

[@nicholascoles152]

I was lucky enough to pick up a Black Bay Pro on the steel bracelet the other day. I was concerned that it was going to be too thick, however after putting it on my wrist ( 6.5 inch ) it instantly felt and looked fantastic. For those of you worried about it’s thickness, try it on first, but I think for most it won’t be an issue in my opinion. An awesome watch at a great price.

[@ZeroSOFInfinity]

Nice. I was thinking to try the leather strap version, as the bracelet makes it look a bit too dull.

[@nicholascoles152]

@@ZeroSOFInfinity I do think the leather strap looks really good as well. I guess in my opinion it’s better valve buying it on the steel bracelet and then buying a OEM leather strap afterwards if you want, rather than the other way around. Apparently all the costs of the straps and bracelets have gone up in price recently and are fairly expensive now. Either way, I think the watch is great valve for money and will be a popular watch.

[@waltermaldonado7763]

Just picked up the new Tudor GMT S&G from the local AD and I love it! I think it’s better looking than the Rolex root beer

[@adrianlivesey4375]

How did they get one so quick?

[@waltermaldonado7763]

A little bit of luck, unlike Rolex

[@mrsir1872]

Muted orange bb pro gmt hand? That thing is 100% yellow

[@arnavramanujam9606]

Tudor is a great watchmaker, and I’m happy that it isn’t Rolex!

[@robertarthur3711]

It’s made by Rolex

[@arnavramanujam9606]

@@robertarthur3711 It isn’t made by Rolex, Tudor is built separately. But yes, it is owned by Rolex

[@Shay-wr6ss]

Love the watch trailer cuts in the middle lol

[@dapperdan28]

I’ve got a nice watch collection - JLC’s, Rolex GMT2, Omega’s. The only watch I wear every single day is the BB58. Tudor are the best bang for buck proposition out there - superb value for money and reasonably easy to get hold of and without the silly grey market prices, except perhaps for some of their earlier divers 👍

[@roycedot]

Fair contender for bang for the buck. I'd, personally, pick the Oris Aquis 400. 10 year warranty, -3/+5 sec accuracy, 120 hour power reserve

[@escanor9920]

@@roycedot personally I would never get an Oris over Tudor ! And -3/+5 is terrible ! Anyway if precision is paramount, then you should stick with Omega (Master Chronometer + COSC + METAS) ! Not even Rolex has double certification, Rolex only got COSC.

[@roycedot]

@@escanor9920 omega metas watches are 2x the price of Oris. Rolex is more accurate at the extreme than Omega. -2/+2, Omega metas is -0/+5. If Oris is terrible at +5 what is Omega at +5? SMH

[@escanor9920]

@@roycedot You just don’t get it ! A watch should never be allowed to « lose time » or be late. Therefore according to this horological principle : 0/+5 is way better than -2/+2 Anyone serious about horology knows that !

[@escanor9920]

@@roycedot And shall I remind you also the story behind the Omega Speedmaster (moonwatch) ? When NASA prepared space missions they asked all the best brands to present them with a watch that could achieve such projects. Many prestigious brands answered and sent prototypes, amongst which : Omega, Rolex, Longines etc ! And they all failed except for Omega with its Speedmaster, who even received the snoopy awards from NASA for having achieved a SUCH accomplishment…

[@mervynpatterson7164]

I have a Tudor Prince Oysterdate with Moccha brown dial and bezel which was gold plated when bought in 1974 from Mappin&Webb,but is now brushed steel with gold Rolex crown and Rolex bracelet in brushed steel.Stunning looking watch.

[@quinnjim]

You can buy a Rolex (a grossly overpriced set of assembly line watches), or Tudor (a Rolex wannabe with ugly hands). Not much of a choice.

[@mikehoward9912]

A million Rolex's per year. Not very exclusive. A lot of dickheads out there.

[@English2Elvish]

The Gold Dial S&G Chrono is amazing, a watch I'd buy vs the White dial... The White dial I feel just has too much open space on the dial... the gold just fills it better somehow.

[@thelifeofpablo6626]

Such a shame that all the great watches Tudor makes are so thick.. that’s a big drawback imo

[@fatback2]

that Tudor GMT hand looks yellow to my eyes especially when compared to the orange hand of a polar explorer 2.

[@golfpark94]

I am learning to become a watchmaker and i worked on some of my own watches. Including a Rolex GMT from september 1990. The more i look at is the more i realise that the movements used are the best i’ve ever seen. All pivots fit perfectly, even with no maintenance for years. Technically it is just about the best one can get, so I’m not tired of Rolex.

[@jmv2015]

My father was given a new Rolex Explorer 1655 for his 18th Bday, he is 63 now and still have the watch. Indeed timeless piece.

[@aggie3344]

Which would you have the black bay 58 or black bay pro? 🤔

[@seanelstob5922]

Would consider a Tudor but I can’t get onboard with that ‘square’ on the hour hand for some reason.

[@michaelfierman3256]

Would you guys talk about the new Mont Blanc divers and GMTs?

[@leidetai5082]

You guys always make me smile, so thank you for that. I’ve given up trying to buy Rolex. I’ll wander down to my AD this weekend to see if the Tudor Royal I ordered in December is coming soon. Then I’ll beg them to order me a Black Bay S&G which I hope I can get before Christmas . So much easier with Seiko, look at the webnet, decide what you want , call a couple of dealers , take the best price and it arrives before the weekend

[@Anonymouslyme1]

‘I’ve given up on Rolex’ but ‘I am going to beg my dealer to order me a Black Blay S&G (after waiting for a Tudor Royal)’ 🤣 . Rolex group has got you well suckered.

[@leidetai5082]

@@Anonymouslyme1 you are not wrong

[@vianouche1]

It took me less time to get my Explorer 214270 at a Rolex AD than you have been waiting for this Tudor Royal. 3 months. You are already at 5 months. (ah for my Sub it took 4 months, and it was last year)

[@xpusostomos]

Get a Steinhardt instead. A better Rolex than Rolex (or Tudor) and good value.

[@DavidTaylor-CCC]

I’m considering getting the BB S&G in 36 or 39. It’s hard getting to see them in person though cause of how dealers choose stock.

[@michaelgemmell7028]

As a normal guy with normal means I'm never going to get my hands on a Daytona, but I'm tempted by a black bay chrono now

[@mikehoward9912]

The Tudor chronograph looks 10x better than the Daytona. Reminds me of the A.Lange 1815. Wear it in good health..

[@jamesrobert4106]

It is a much nicer watch aesthetically.

[@diavalus]

The Tudor has a better movement for the price anyway, so it’s a win win situation

[@jonathanmiles897]

I never understood the popularity of the Daytona. There are so many more Chronographs that are just...better... Before the Tudor chronographs there was Zenith El Primero, Heuer Monaco, now Tudor Chronographs and More recently Brietling B09 all more aesthetically pleasing than the Daytona. All cheaper, all available.

[@WigsLtd]

Rootbeer on the S&G jubilee for me if it were possible. Do tudor sell there jubilee brackets separately? Anyone?

[@callmedru]

Went to the rolex ad and nothing was for sale, there’s even a waiting list for a two tone datejust, are tt datejusts a waiting list watch now? Is this the norm everywhere?

[@DarthMalaks_Missing_Lower_Jaw]

I assume the BB GMT S&G still uses rolled gold for the center links and crown? only way they'd be able to keep costs down.

[@googleuser1079]

The non-GMT S&G has beautiful off-white/cream color loom. Is the loom on the rootbeer white or cream?

[@PeteNice29]

Yeah, but... The only reason why these newer models are popular at all is precisely because they look like their Rolex counterparts. It's kind of like saying an NFT of the Mona Lisa "smashed" the original.

[@vianouche1]

Good point...

[@gelmibson883]

Woo! I throw my Tudor S&G in a spaghetti bowl for a DJ41 2tone. Wooo!

[@hullabamoo]

T-Rex 🦖 I thought Tom was taking the micky in the video that night 😂🤣

[@leeaaron7856]

Hi Watchfinder, great video! Can you talk about the new Breitling Navitimers released just recently? Thanks.

[@Daniel_DiSanto]

The GMT hand on the Tudor Pro looks very yellow to me, is it really more of a faded orange? Or is this a cultural color semantics issue (I'm from the US). Thanks!

[@watchfinder]

Faded orange, but not far off yellow!

[@Daniel_DiSanto]

@@watchfinder thanks! I agree that the Pro is the best Rolex release this year. Thanks for all of the great content; these watch banter videos are great!

[@jcb0920]

At that price point, is the gold in the S&G BB GMT solid or plated? Solid gold crown and bezel? If so, that's a phenomenal price.

[@rolexer]

What abou the new 39 s and 6 with the new clasp??

[@davidrobinson7378]

Why is the rolex at 2min 24seconds a right handed watch? Is this an option that can be specified? I have never seen this before and I wonder if it's just some trickery to make it look more different than it is by showing it as its mirror image.

[@bobsacamano4648]

The centre links in the tutors are not solid gold, but gold capped. That’s why they are ‘only’ a 1000 quid premium to the steel.

[@rainydaywatches6508]

Thanks for the mention! You guys gotta talk about that crazy, diamond Tag Heuer. That is not the Tag you have at home, which is really any Tag.

[@turbohusque]

I rather like the Toffee & Chocolate watch. I could even see myself wearing one, not that I would pay those prices for it. Nothing excites me in a watch like Omega, though.

[@TheRausing1]

“Tudor SMASHES Rolex” seems like a bit of a silly title when two out of the three watches in the thumbnail are some of the ugliest watches the Rolex company (in this case under the Tudor brand) have ever made

[@LorenzoIgnacio]

Talk about the Oris Propilot X Calibre 400 please. Of all the watches in W & W I feel like this was the one that called out to me the most.

[@gelmibson883]

The S&G bracelet from Tudor os lazy. The clasp comes full steel which looks cheap. And still no micro adjustment. It is on the Pro but then disappeared on the website from Tudor?

[@sweetcorn1968]

The Black Bay Pro looks magnificent, a white dial would even better in my opinion.

[@jdmtl1041]

" Bow down to the king". Bow down to Tudor, Loving the new releases and the long video!!!!

[@mrgee007]

Great vid, Yeah JLC and Hublot Square bang please

[@jeanlefranc3817]

Tudor is a great brand, despite tacky steel & gold options and disconnected marketing.

[@archittiwari7493]

DO GRAND SEIKO GRAND SEIKOOOOOOOOO YAAAASSSSSSS

[@MasterChronometer]

I’ve wanted a black bay 36 for ages but now I’m wondering if they’ll make a new version with in house movement. Or maybe discontinue it and prices will soar.

[@-chris-n-lucy]

As a fellow bb58 owner I agree with all of the things you said. [EAT A BEAR] As badly as I want a 36mm explorer I will never have one.[JUMP!] I don't need the coronet. [I SAID JUMP!]Nobody I know would notice and if they did I would probably feel foolish like some show off.[STARE AT THE SUN] I love my bb58 and maybe I'll get a rootbeer gmt (tudor) in a year or two.[MAKE A FIRE!]

[@evvjim3721]

Another enjoyable video. Please keep them coming. I have concluded that, today, if you are looking for great watch to own, wear, and enjoy, you buy Tudor. If you are looking for an abstract ethereal concept about which to debate, wax poetic, and philosophize, you look at pictures of Rolex.

[@thomasoliverpryce4914]

Tudor is 'gold-filled' rather than solid isn't it?

[@diavalus]

What’s the difference between gold filled and solid gold?

[@thomasoliverpryce4914]

@@diavalus solid is solid, obviously, and gold-plate is counted in microns but gold-fill, IIRC, is several millimetres. Basically, it can't wear off like plating.

[@diavalus]

@@thomasoliverpryce4914 ah, okay. It makes sense. Thanks for the explanation, I didn’t know gold filling was a thing in watch industry.

[@Noyb.265]

Enough with the green already. It is not a neutral. Nor is it utilized in daywear enough to warrant green hands, bezel, dial indices or anything green that isn't a common, widely accepted and utilized luminescent. The only case in which green is desirable is a natural, unavoidable and benign patina that has occurred over time on a vintage model or out of a featured material like bronze or copper.. Otherwise, green is a niche watch fashion that's (ahem) had its time and should be reserved for watches that need to match handbags and shoes.

[@BharathNandaKumar]

If I can get a dollar for every time there is the word “Rolex” in the title of a video, when the videos is not actually about Rolex, I can actually buy a Rolex.

[@robblair3703]

No you can't. Nobody can.

[@edotedy]

I like the Longines Zulu Time much better than the Black Bay Pro, I am also blessed with a 7.5inch wrist though so this preference surely is subjective.

[@kukricamper]

Gday, I am in the market for a Tudor Black Bay GMT..here in Melbourne there is now a waiting list. The local AD was gracious enough to let me know when an “opportunity to purchase”. Will become available they will let me know!

[@astonmartinvee8]

Please can you do something on Parmigiani. Old vs new?

[@MohammadAWaly]

Did you check out MontBlanc? The new Iced Sea divers are a better value imo

[@vianouche1]

Very nice but IMO the logo above 6 o'clock is too much. That leads to having 2 mountains on the dial and 1 iceberg on the back, really too much. Otherwise very cool watch, the profile reminds me of the old Seamaster 300m from the 90s.

[@markdance574]

I’m not a Rolex fan , I appreciate others are and I appreciate the Rolex build quality from a mass produced stand point and of course no one does hype quite like Rolex ……. But come on guys n girls Rolex in horological terms can’t compete with most of the other brands out there - and most of the catalog isn’t obtainable so why even bother - I really liked the new black dial Grand Seiko diver

[@mikehoward9912]

Huge GS fan here. JLC Polaris and the Zenith sport line are wonderful.

[@DarthMalaks_Missing_Lower_Jaw]

Speak on the new releases from Grand Seiko!

[@maciekb8554]

Well done, thank you

[@jimlittle5769]

Small note, unless I misunderstood what y'all said, the Tudor BB GMT S&G on bracelet isn't actually the same price as on leather or NATO. The bracelet option is $1250 more.

[@simonmayes4072]

I think he meant that it was the same price as the current steel Pepsi BB on a bracelet.

[@jimlittle5769]

@@simonmayes4072 maybe he meant that but the Tudor Pepsi BB GMT on bracelet is $4175. Thats less than the new S&G GMT on a bracelet, leather strap or NATO strap.

[@ed7384]

I’d put my money into grand seiko now their value are only going one direction and you can get your hands on them

[@marck5893]

I want one but i am still afraid it is a submariner substitute unconsciously.

[@KeepingWatchUK]

I regard my Tudor divers as complementary to a Submariner, not substitutes. They are smaller, more vintage looking, not as glossy etc. I think they can work together well 👍

[@robdickson5902]

Great video. I think the Tudor Black Bay Pro looks great. Can't wait to see one for real.

[@ANTONIO-dv9cq]

If the Rolex Explorer is an "explorers's watch" why the crown guards go for the Air King? Not to ruin a classic design in an older model? They could have added them in the 39 mm version keeping the 36 mm version, the most traditional one, untouched. For the same reason they should have added crown guards to the Tudor BB Pro. Explorer styled watches should be and look strong watches, like a 4x4.

[@mikescott4008]

Certainly tempted to trade my BB58 in for one. Equally maybe time for some Rolex profit by ditching the dateless sub.

[@alanwright3172]

Tudor has become the heritage line for Rolex😁

[@scottroberts7141]

Coming from someone who owns a Rolex GMT Rootbeer and a Tudor black bay S&G honestly can say that quality wise Tudors are amazing and offer so much value for money. Just wish Tudor would cut the amount of models they make and focus on making the black bay line up better. Maybe add crown guards, definitely get rid of the rivets on the bracelet. A new Tudor submariner would be a winner.

[@diavalus]

To be honest, I love that it doesn’t have crown guards.

[@bocolis88]

I love the Pro model there is one problem though…why does it have to be so thick? If Tudor watches were Rolex-thick it would be a no brainer for sure but this chunk of metal protruding from your wrist is not sexy by any means.

[@fd6661]

Did you get to see the Vantablack watch?

[@UGA.D]

I think you HAVE to have the date on a GMT.

[@rampageashton]

I have a Tudor BB58 blue. I’d sold my no date submariner as I couldn’t refuse the offer and I really wanted a GMT the sub was my second choice . Can’t get one, so I bought a Tudor. I wear my watch on the right hand and this new GMT is perfect for me. But like you say I haven’t got a chance to get one from my dealer I’ve been on lists for years. The Tudor is a great watch good design, and it’s attainable. It’s not about affordability it’s attainability. And I’m not really worried about being robbed for my Tudor.

[@tim6630tim]

The center links are not solid gold. Its a layer of gold over steel..

[@mrdripling4192]

Did you manage to see the new PRX Chronos?

[@jonsonnenschein1253]

Love the gold chronograph, but that leather Bund strap they had it on was horrible. There are nicer straps out there. Namely the handmade Sherp straps from Igor Sharapa in Krakow Poland.

[@MrThehardway]

Damn...that algorithm really can't get enough of that Rolex love!

[@stevemoreno6241]

Enjoyable video as usual. I recently got a BB GMT Pepsi and am interested in this new Pro version. Is it just me or is the hand model on the photo of the GMT Pro look like he's got fake stick-on nails. It was a bit weird so it jumped out at me.

[@f.xavier45]

“Rolex, the insecure man’s Tudor”

[@seancatacombs]

What makes Rolex so timeless is they can do literally anything, like putting gold on the bezel of a basic sports watch, and there will be an army of pundits who come out and say it's yet more proof of the brand's colossal genius for marketing and their "advantage of being able to plan in timeframes the average watchmaker can't comprehend"

[@aleksitanninen]

I am seeing the same coloration of Tudor North Flag when I look at the Black Bay Pro. Can't wait to see the review!

[@vianouche1]

Good observation!!!

[@johnlim7720]

Have you seen the new Montblanc 1858 Iced Sea Automatic Date? For me they are gorgeous!!!

[@peterbradshaw8018]

Do something on Breguet please.

[@Blue_3rd]

The Rolex design department is as lazy as the Porsche design department.

[@vianouche1]

Are they right to be lazy?

[@Blue_3rd]

@@vianouche1 It’s nice work if you can get it :) Minimal changes, maximum prices.

[@TheJohnnyViewer]

For few seconds after Tudor releases I wanted to order BB Pro but Maan its a thick boy. So we all wanted 58 GMT and we have got just a taste of what we are hungry for - with a nice face but out of proportions case

[@Pipemonkey]

Don’t hear you talking much about Tag Heuer watches, maybe you could update us on what’s going on with past and future releases

[@rocketdyneF1]

As soon as I can, I’m going to get a Black Bay 58.

[@marceauratard6869]

The black bay 41 S&G with the grey diamond dial is my favorite. The more I look at it, the more I want one

[@poolesperformance6146]

I just got my Tudor GMT rootbeer on bracelet yesterday. I absolutely love it..

[@superkonek7808]

if you in bankruptcy,,,no matter where in the world, you still can pawn ur Rolex with a good price. but Tudor didnt have that "privileges"

[@akinigiri]

I like the Tudor Rootbeer, but one issue I have is the choice of yellow gold. I think rose gold like Rolex would have been a better look. Probably some Rolex exec said "no, too similar"😒

[@joeh3803]

I still love Breitlings. Any news?

[@roguewave1060]

I don't like the fact that the Tudor doesn't have a crown guard. The crown sticks out too much IMO. By the way, as an airline pilot, I _yet_ have to meet a colleague who has a Rolex Air King. 🤣 The name "Air King" is also a bit unfortunate for a watch as it's confusingly similar to a very famous aircraft, the Beechcraft King Air. All in all, the Air Kng doesn't make sense, because a _real_ pilot (especially the ones who fly long haul like myself) would like to have a GMT hand, hence why the Rolex GMT Master II is such an enormously popular pilot's watch. I know because I have one, and it's very useful in daily flying ops.