Can You Tell the Difference Between a $500 and a $200,000 Watch?

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Watchfinder & Co.

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@watchfinder
@watchfinder Жыл бұрын
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@victorpapillon1487
@victorpapillon1487 Жыл бұрын
I really wish this ph4660t would speak faster and stop with the force gravitas
@kostgir9380
@kostgir9380 Жыл бұрын
Why watch channels almost never say about the accuracy of watches? There must be a reason.Thank you anyway.
@fredashay
@fredashay Жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about watches except they tell time, but I think the gold watch is prettier. But I don't need a hole in the face showing the gears spinning. I guess if you're a watch nerd, that's impressive to see gears inside other gears in order to make a clockwork small enough fit on a wrist. But I don't care about that, any more than I care about how many franistats my car's engine has. That seems to be a growing trend in watches, from $20 watches on eBay to million dollar watches at fancy jewelry stores. A $20 Timex is good enough for me as long as it keeps accurate time, and I don't care how shiny and polished the gears are, lol. But thanks for the video! I enjoyed it and thought that gold watch was beautiful!
@han_pritcher
@han_pritcher 3 жыл бұрын
The Sugess is a fine watch for a price that would've been considered impossible even ten years ago. A tasteful design, enamel dial and tourbillion for $500? Not bad at all. It will never be an AL&S and isn't trying to be. I just wish the Chinese manufacturers would go to a little extra effort in keeping the parts clean during assembly. Nothing is more depressing than seeing smudges of grease and dust on what should be a perfect little machine. Some Swiss companies screw that up too, which is unforgivable considering their greater experience and higher prices.
@thewatchexplorer2244
@thewatchexplorer2244 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed 👍
@michaelr21
@michaelr21 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewwilson8273 Yes, the Version of the Watch made by Sea-Gull is absolutely worth the price Difference :)
@pavel009
@pavel009 3 жыл бұрын
You can't see all that they show under the microscope anyway. As far as they keep good time who has those alien eyes to see the details.
@arturassuksta8837
@arturassuksta8837 3 жыл бұрын
@@pavel009 No need to see, Its just knowing and thats makes a big difference.
@andrewwilson8273
@andrewwilson8273 3 жыл бұрын
@@pavel009 absolutely. I do have a couple of watches where I can see imperfections with my naked eyes, but in general - no chance. I can't see any significant problems with my eyes on the Sugess. That said, it can be nice to know that objects we own are perfect and beautifully made even if we can't see the perfection (or the flaws).
@yermanoh
@yermanoh 3 жыл бұрын
the main difference between these 2 watches is that one will be worn regularly and enjoyed by its owner the other will live in a dark safe sitting next to PP AP and VC delights only to be taken out and worn on special occasions
@arafatjahangirhridoy7577
@arafatjahangirhridoy7577 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not wearing a 500 buck watch regularly. In my house, it will rest inside a safe. My 50 dollar automatic watch from China will endure sitting on my wrist until I take the costlier one for a special occasion.
@yermanoh
@yermanoh 2 жыл бұрын
@@arafatjahangirhridoy7577 the important thing is that you are happy with you purchase regardless of the cost, i wear my 29 euro plastic fantastic red casio wrm as often as i wear my more expensive watches...price be damned wear what you want👍
@arafatjahangirhridoy7577
@arafatjahangirhridoy7577 2 жыл бұрын
@@yermanoh Isn't is "mrw"?
@yermanoh
@yermanoh 2 жыл бұрын
@@arafatjahangirhridoy7577 ya
@arafatjahangirhridoy7577
@arafatjahangirhridoy7577 2 жыл бұрын
@@yermanoh Excellent choice 💪
@scottlawton9459
@scottlawton9459 2 жыл бұрын
I like these pieces for different reasons. 1. The Sugess is gorgeous. Truly gorgeous, and it is real. It’s a real tourbillion, and it is clear that care was taken to make it something special. 2. The A. Lange & Söhne is equally beautiful, but for different reasons. It was made to be beautiful, and made by hand. Sure, the Chinese model did it cheaper, but like a hand built V12, or a Corvette Z06’s V8, you can see a sense of pride that was taken in the craft of her build. Some individual didn’t just clock in (no pun intended) and get to work, rather they worked to create art. Art that took countless years to perfect and finish. In short, you buy these two for different reasons: you buy the Sugess to appreciate the tourbillion. You buy the A. Lange & Söhne to appreciate the art of the piece.
@spaceghostmiid
@spaceghostmiid 2 жыл бұрын
fun fact about the sugess - since those tourbillons are so cheap to make, most swiss watch manufacturers actually use those tourbillons because legally only 60% of the value of the watch has to come from swiss craftsmen in order to be considered a swiss watch.
@_______________00
@_______________00 6 ай бұрын
@@spaceghostmiid Source?
@spaceghostmiid
@spaceghostmiid 6 ай бұрын
@@_______________00 look up the 60% rule
@igvc1876
@igvc1876 Ай бұрын
"pieces"?
@SIMARJEETMEHTA
@SIMARJEETMEHTA 13 күн бұрын
Sorry, there is no pride in the A. Lange. At 9:05 you can see several gear teeth with imperfections. Sloppy job.
@badernajeeb4114
@badernajeeb4114 3 жыл бұрын
GOOD NEWS, he knows about the Dacia Sandero. All joking aside, your videos are always made with amazing quality and I love watching them, keep up the amazing work
@ripsticklord
@ripsticklord 3 жыл бұрын
Great comment
@lordofgonzo
@lordofgonzo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this!
@hathaway.1166
@hathaway.1166 3 жыл бұрын
That's great! Anyway...
@roku_nine
@roku_nine 3 жыл бұрын
Top Gear?
@SeahawkSTRIKE
@SeahawkSTRIKE 2 жыл бұрын
James May will be thrilled
@magicmjk09
@magicmjk09 3 жыл бұрын
This comparison may seem completely nonsensical at the first glance, but as the narrative of the video gets shaped and the reasons become apparent, it starts to make more and more sense. In the end, it leaves the audience with a joyful feeling of revelation and discovery. Well done Watch Finder.
@harryguo5895
@harryguo5895 Жыл бұрын
As always.
@Sneka97
@Sneka97 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not acting like many other watch youtubers that scoff at china for horology. I would argue it's actually quite impressive given that it only established itself about 70 years ago, compared to the multi centuries industry in Switzerland. Both watches are absolute marvels for different reason, but anyone would be happy and proud with either
@JJ-zr6fu
@JJ-zr6fu 3 жыл бұрын
It's actually not really that impressive. It would be one thing if these parts were hand made but these are all machined made. If you can afford the right machine all you have to do is go to a country with cheap to lower the costs. China was/is the hub for knock offs. A forger will always have that stain.
@EmilioSantosS
@EmilioSantosS 3 жыл бұрын
What's even funnier is how the Swiss watchmakers tried to copy or "homage" American pocket watches back in the day. Just like how nowadays Chinese watchmakers are doing with the Swiss and wristwatches.
@lukerabin5079
@lukerabin5079 3 жыл бұрын
In fairness, China bought a whole manufacture, movements, case stamps, dies, etc. Minerva, if memory serves. It’s not as if they had to invent it from scratch, they just had to copy faithfully.
@fredfunn5413
@fredfunn5413 3 жыл бұрын
@@JJ-zr6fu It's impressive indeed when watch experts like Watch Finder himself says so. How are you to say otherwise, you keyboard troll? If it's that easy, then aren't yourself giving the watch companies a run for their money? And if you know anything about horology, you would have known that the Swiss copied French watchmaking which copied British watchmaking, so are the Swiss also forgers in your eyes? Why is it so hard not to be a racist and a hater?
@rosomak8244
@rosomak8244 3 жыл бұрын
@@JJ-zr6fu Keep on dreaming if you think that swiss or german watch parts are "hand made". It's all just marketing BS you pay for.
@TheSupertecnology
@TheSupertecnology 3 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a Sugess watch. It was the starry sky, reference MG 177. It's got a Seagull ST2528 movement. And my watchmaker talked rubish about it just because it was Chinese. Sadly, my unit came with dried up oil, most likely because it was sitting there for quite some time. But man... Not all Chinese movements are created the same. And he swallowed his words when he opened it, observed at it up close and personal and saw the perlage decoration all over the movement. That's what it took him to chill and agree to service it. But he compared my watch to other $20 scrap movements he had laying around. I wonder what he'd say about that beautiful tourbillion. It even has an enamel dial!
@jamesrobert4106
@jamesrobert4106 2 жыл бұрын
What is it with watchmakers? Most of them do no watchmaking. They do service and repair work out of a spare room in their modest houses and have the heir of a Patek CEO. This faux snobbery is comedic.
@mattberg6816
@mattberg6816 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesrobert4106 it’s pretty sad to be honest. My wife brought home a little travel alarm clock that belonged to her grandfather and I can’t even get a watchmaker to look at it. It’s not a fine time piece but it’s no different to a Jacob & co to her
@SIMARJEETMEHTA
@SIMARJEETMEHTA 13 күн бұрын
@@mattberg6816 Mail it to a repair shop in China.
@Pete...NoNotThatOne
@Pete...NoNotThatOne 3 жыл бұрын
My heart will always be with the Lange, but I have to admit - if somebody with some polishing talent got their hands on the Sugess and spent a few days giving the movement a good detail, it’d come up looking _very_ good.
@bogdanstamate4827
@bogdanstamate4827 2 жыл бұрын
Transform a 500dollar watch into 100k? Guess what? It would look much better than A&S, u can customise it the way your client wants 😉
@stevefox8605
@stevefox8605 3 жыл бұрын
Clear demo of the law of diminishing returns...far more impressed with the Sugess , yes the ALS is exquisite but so it should be! Excellent video, thank you 👍🏻👍🏻
@chriss2122
@chriss2122 3 жыл бұрын
Well put. I've always been quite fascinated by the law of diminishing marginal returns. I'm an accountant, so often having to explain why massive businesses have such small profit margins and I always rely on this good old law. Diminishing marginal returns or not, that ALS has to be one of the most beautiful watches I've ever seen. I've still got the Watchfinder original video of it saved in favourites!
@stevefox8605
@stevefox8605 3 жыл бұрын
@@chriss2122 yes, absolutely the ALS is incredible. Highly recommend you check out Roger Smith's channel that's the next step up from ALS imho. Thanks for your comment 👍🏻
@chriss2122
@chriss2122 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevefox8605 thanks. I know he's a very well respected watchmaker, but I never knew he had a channel. I can't find it - are you able to share a link to a video from his channel, so I can subscribe from there? Cheers
@stevefox8605
@stevefox8605 3 жыл бұрын
@@chriss2122 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXLFe395m7t-gMU There you go, enjoy it mate 👍🏻
@chriss2122
@chriss2122 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevefox8605 brilliant. Thanks mate!
@twisterballgm
@twisterballgm 3 жыл бұрын
The most impressive thing about about the watches is not the watches but the micro videography!
@ajaurgemma5341
@ajaurgemma5341 3 жыл бұрын
For 200k. Those screws not being perfectly aligned with each other would drive me insane
@jjlad5037
@jjlad5037 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed....I would find it exceptionally distracting.
@davidliu323
@davidliu323 3 жыл бұрын
The only watch I’ve ever seen with aligned screws is on the Royal Oak’s bezel, and those screws can’t turn (they’re seated in hexagonal holes). A lot easier to align non-functional screws.
@jjlad5037
@jjlad5037 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidliu323 ...you mean the screws that have no purpose?
@thomaswelcomer8443
@thomaswelcomer8443 Жыл бұрын
I'm SHOCKED I had to scroll down so far to see this reaction! 😮
@boomclash101
@boomclash101 8 ай бұрын
For 200 the screws need to be gold and it should have a kentic solar charge with Bluetooth flash light lighter compass lol
@humorss
@humorss 3 жыл бұрын
I always felt quality and price for luxury items has log relationship. To increase quality by 1, price increase 10 fold.
@cosyneproject
@cosyneproject 3 жыл бұрын
To increase quality by 1 what?
@alexsloan4976
@alexsloan4976 2 жыл бұрын
+1x means 2x
@youngtik4288
@youngtik4288 2 жыл бұрын
not only luxury items haha
@harshsoni7372
@harshsoni7372 2 жыл бұрын
I wish a micro brand like Baltic or Lorier made a piece with the Seagull tourbillon movement with a beautiful dial and case.
@CrankingAllDay
@CrankingAllDay 3 жыл бұрын
If Sugess puts like x2 the effort making this watch with more care, and charge 1000 for it, this would be incredible!!
@teecchnoboy
@teecchnoboy 2 жыл бұрын
good luck for them finding gold or diamond for extra 500
@happyface4234
@happyface4234 2 жыл бұрын
@@teecchnoboy what more do u expect? it is already a tourbillon, but people are complaining about the finish not being good. now hypothetically sugess polishes it nicely for $1000, and now u expect it to have gold and diamond?! go buy ur self a swiss then. people like you are too good for sugess. the point of sugess is to allow common folks to enjoy something that is normally high-end and not-so easily obtainable. if you expect that much then you are missing the point. and should just buy swiss/german that can meet those expectations. even for chinese produce, there is a limit on how cheap they can make something.
@carlosanguita9778
@carlosanguita9778 Жыл бұрын
@@teecchnoboy they have one with african diamonds for 700, so...
@cirrus1964
@cirrus1964 3 жыл бұрын
For many years, I bought watches. My love started almost 70 years ago. To start with, the fact the case is rose gold (and far to reddish), should just add the gold price. Take the caliber out, and try to sell it, you will get the day gold price (probably 300 Euro). But let's stick to facts. First, prices are completely idiotic. This started somewhere in the eighties. Antique watches became collectors items. While some years before, I walked in to a shop, and bought a Calatrava brand Patek, for 1500 Dutch guilders. Some 700 Euro's now. No one wanted the old winding thing, everyone wanted a quarts. Fl. 1500, was less than a month salary to me. Buying a Calatrava today, try to buy it on a years salary!
@jaex9617
@jaex9617 3 жыл бұрын
Plain-spoken and frugal, as a good Dutchman should be.
@anthonystevens8683
@anthonystevens8683 3 жыл бұрын
A brilliant video Talking Hands. Other than a certain Douglas Adams (R.I.P) I have no idea how you manage to think up parts of the dialog in describing some mechanical masterpieces. Phrases like "polished with a brick", and "soiled his sheets" both nearly wrote off my keyboard while attempting to have a drink. Limiting the number of ALS to 30 probably make sense as the time it takes to do all that work by hand may take a master watch maker from school leaving age to retirement. Keep up the great work!
@sushimshah2896
@sushimshah2896 3 жыл бұрын
He has done a separate video on this AL&S (and many more like the Triple Split, Terraluna, Zeitwerk, etc) already in case you are new to this channel
@leonwangls
@leonwangls 2 жыл бұрын
4:42. which part of sugess is polish with a brick?? be specific. Thanks
@QuickQuips
@QuickQuips 3 жыл бұрын
Just wished the Sugess lined up those blue screws. But man it holds up very well to your camera for the price. And props for not being dismissive of Chinese watches that aren't counterfeits.
@pootube45
@pootube45 3 жыл бұрын
I got lost in this video :) I know how long these usually are but when it was over I had no idea how long I'd just been entranced for, such consistently good work mate. The content in these videos is so much more than just watches and I am thankful you are still doing your thing!
@coffeeisgood102
@coffeeisgood102 3 жыл бұрын
Just might purchase that Sugess. They did a fine job and deserve some respect for it. The ALS is in a class all by itself and out of reach for most people, so the Sugess is a perfect fit for the general masses. Also, I am really impressed with the hacking function of the ALS. That is ingenious.
@limyohwan
@limyohwan 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that Sugess got it right. A tourbillon should be the centerpiece of your watch but pretty much every watch company can't help themselves but to make their tourbillon dials as busy as possible. Even HMC's tourbillon watches are the least restrained ones in their lineup.
@baryonyx9642
@baryonyx9642 Жыл бұрын
Yep, pretty much. But ate Sugesses reliable 🤔
@DutchClawz
@DutchClawz 3 жыл бұрын
One of my watch acquaintances did a service on the sugess and came to the conclusion that is was a very capable movement. Even a very durable one at thatz
@david-wo7kz
@david-wo7kz 3 жыл бұрын
Bit disappointed that you didn't compare it to the luxurious hand engraved Thomas Earnshaw tourbillon from the shopping channel🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@paulfong90
@paulfong90 3 жыл бұрын
HERITAGE
@ghostindamachine
@ghostindamachine 3 жыл бұрын
Superb. The video, the narration, the message and the two main characters.
@JochenVogel
@JochenVogel 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You for this comparison! I'd just like to add that the Sugess even has a flying tourbillon, which, according to what I have read so far, seems to be the more delicate construction. I have owned a similar watch and its tourbillon stopped working after I had worn it on my left hand while playing the harp in a concert. The sudden movements of octave jumps and such probably bent its axis slightly out of shape. I wonder if that would have happened to the Lange. ;-)
@almac9203
@almac9203 3 жыл бұрын
The Richard Mille Tourbillon can withstand playing championship level tennis without falling apart. Nadal wears his watch on to the court and the watch has no problems. That's quality!
@BigfishDaniel
@BigfishDaniel 3 жыл бұрын
@@almac9203 Nadal broke several RM playing tennis
@JochenVogel
@JochenVogel 3 жыл бұрын
@@BigfishDaniel That's in line with my watchmaker friend telling me that the first Speedmaster on the moon promptly stopped running.
@MrWizardjr9
@MrWizardjr9 3 жыл бұрын
@@JochenVogel i didnt hear anything about the first speedmaster stop running but a later one did have its crystal pop off.
@bshipon2113
@bshipon2113 3 жыл бұрын
I don't like how in the al&s the screws holding the tourbillon aren't straight
@djisar
@djisar 3 жыл бұрын
Best video in months in my opinion, good work.
@JonMurray
@JonMurray 10 ай бұрын
You’re really funny man haha! The craftsmanship that’s gone into that A. Lange & Söhne is mind blowing. Love the channel mate.
@deedee8568
@deedee8568 3 жыл бұрын
Oooh😲. A Sugess. On Watchfinder. I like AL&S. I also like what Sugess produce. Ooooh. Thanks.
@caerphoto
@caerphoto 3 жыл бұрын
“The dial tells the time as it should. It wouldn’t be much of a dial if it didn’t.” *H. Moser has entered the chat*
@alsharkawiamr
@alsharkawiamr 3 жыл бұрын
Your love of such art you present is so out of the screen BIG like from Egypt
@geoffreyaugust0
@geoffreyaugust0 3 жыл бұрын
That A.LANGE & SOHNE is one of the most beautiful watches I've ever seen.
@kostya121212
@kostya121212 3 жыл бұрын
Does the seagull movement hack?
@jackburtonstwin
@jackburtonstwin 3 жыл бұрын
A fantastic video today. I feel we should all celebrate a shared hobby which sees both these watches existing. The Sugess is a remarkable watch for the money while the AL&S is just remarkable in every way. While most of us can only ever afford the former, I am grateful that there are those to can fund and support the latter allowing all of us to see the artistry of high-end watch making. £200k is a lot of money, but in a world where people have no issue with blowing millions on a piece of fabric with paint on it, there is some degree mitigation.
@gonshocks
@gonshocks 3 жыл бұрын
I suppose that a routine servicing of the A.L&S would be much more that the price of a new Surgess.
@mikenorris5378
@mikenorris5378 3 жыл бұрын
Its probably more than the price of a low end Omega.
@EEE_MMM
@EEE_MMM 3 жыл бұрын
I would say these watches *both* offer great value for money. Just, different value for a different price.
@rosomak8244
@rosomak8244 3 жыл бұрын
No. The $200k is plain and simple daylight robeery.
@BLdontM
@BLdontM 3 жыл бұрын
.... a 200k watch great value for money? Let's be objective here - what does the 200k watch do that the 500 dollar one doesn't? What does the 200k watch do that even a 29 dollar watch from walmart doesn't? They're both time-only watches and the 29 dollar one from walmart will keep time better than the 200k watch. The 200k watch is a status symbol. It's so the owner can show it off to their other rich friends.
@EEE_MMM
@EEE_MMM 3 жыл бұрын
@@BLdontM function-wise, you're absolutely correct. Function-wise, we don't even need a watch because we all have a phone nowadays. If you choose to wear a watch, a Casio F-91w would certainly be the most rational choice. But let's face it. You admire a Rolls-Royce more than a Dacia. They're not on the same plane of existence, not even close. But that's not to say that a Rolls-Royce isn't worth every last euro/dollar/pound of its price.
@BLdontM
@BLdontM 3 жыл бұрын
@@EEE_MMMEh that is subjective. I wouldn't say a rolls royce is "great value for money" like you called the watch either. It's not great value for money. There is objectively a lot greater value for money that can be had. One can purchase assets that will actually appreciate in value. Status symbols, which is what the watch and RR are, are almost NEVER great values for money. If they were a great value for money they wouldn't be a status symbol anymore. Part of the reason those items are a status symbol is because there are much better ways one could spend the money - but they chose not to spend it as wisely as possible in order to show that they have money to spare.
@EEE_MMM
@EEE_MMM 3 жыл бұрын
@@BLdontM as I said, it's just different value for a different amount of money. Do you need a RR or an AL&S? No, nobody does. Is it a fair price for what they offer? Absolutely. If you want to see bad value propositions, check out watches that pretend to be premium by virtue of their label-- aka fashion watches. You're paying a fair bit and get very little in terms of quality.
@ryang5230
@ryang5230 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve known for a long time that I need a Tourbillion in my life. Have seen the Seagull many years ago but not found one for sale. This could well be the next watch purchase for me. Thank you!
@keithireland6627
@keithireland6627 3 жыл бұрын
Law of diminishing returns well illustrated. Brilliant thankyou.
@milanchristi7939
@milanchristi7939 3 жыл бұрын
Simply brilliant commentary. Bravo!
@RD-wg2nt
@RD-wg2nt Жыл бұрын
Great narration… watches are a masterpiece and a miracle.
@hakancalis
@hakancalis 2 жыл бұрын
You know, it has been a while since I watch your videos. I never miss one. Thank you so much for time and effort and please keep going!
@saadatkhan8273
@saadatkhan8273 3 жыл бұрын
Love u for not being a snob rather a true admirer of watches regardless of their make or model
@manoman0
@manoman0 3 жыл бұрын
Chinese are known for their love for quality. Make no mistake about that. I have a very similar, if not exact the same watch like the Sugess (without the Tourbillion) and it's a very nice watch, well made, reliable HW-er.
@Aussie_stu
@Aussie_stu 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding Video. A video made with the care that both of these amazing watches deserve in their own way,
@MADHIKER777
@MADHIKER777 2 жыл бұрын
They are both impressive in their own way. Very nice comparison.
@framerate3x3
@framerate3x3 3 жыл бұрын
I've been following the channel for a while and I've always been curious. What is the name of the song that plays in all your videos? It's beautiful.
@stephenolsen5925
@stephenolsen5925 4 ай бұрын
The direction of those two screws at either end of the tourbillon not matching is driving me nuts, on the German watch
@petepure3387
@petepure3387 Жыл бұрын
Two very different "worlds" defined! Thank you.
@MrSaadmubarak
@MrSaadmubarak 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, and great perspective. It's not often a company can focus on the art without cost being a factor. The Lange is truly a work of art.
@nullifye7816
@nullifye7816 3 жыл бұрын
You can't put a price on aesthetic perfection. It shouldn't be difficult, but it's the absurdly expensive watches that send that perception of "rightness" flowing through my mind. Obviously there is a law of diminishing returns. If you want that "right" feeling and can afford the Lange, go for it.
@jhatgotagat300
@jhatgotagat300 3 жыл бұрын
I’m really wondering if the retailers of the sugess will spike the price after these couple videos 🤣
@andrewwilson8273
@andrewwilson8273 3 жыл бұрын
If that were to happen, it would probably remain excellent value.
@northscylla
@northscylla 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure they did after the last sugess video!
@hazardousharmonies
@hazardousharmonies 3 жыл бұрын
If you make a book with your reviews, I and I suspect many others would buy it :) wonderful, descriptive, entertaining, novel prose,
@whereisvanuatu
@whereisvanuatu 2 жыл бұрын
I just wish the grooves of the two screws inside the dial of the AL&S would align perfectly.
@oxysoxos
@oxysoxos 3 жыл бұрын
The cinematography here is just insane.
@AtheistOrphan
@AtheistOrphan 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve just bought a new Sugess moonphase chronograph for £147 and I love it.
@faisalingalong
@faisalingalong 3 жыл бұрын
Superb. One of my favourite of your videos now!
@mahmoudabdelatty8628
@mahmoudabdelatty8628 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for such video .. very detailed and inspiring ❤
@beachboisurf
@beachboisurf 3 жыл бұрын
Exceptional presentation and comparison of what could seem like to diametrically opposed watches. Let’s give my man here a thumbs up. How many people want to see him succeed in 2022?
@livingfullyinwisdom
@livingfullyinwisdom 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Both are wonderful watches in their own categories.
@qweewq-h7p
@qweewq-h7p Жыл бұрын
The A. Lange & Söhne is above perfection. Such a beautiful timepiece..
@craig2100
@craig2100 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, both are a work of art, even though one is a DaVinci and the other an affordable yet admirable print.
@BobbyDazzler888
@BobbyDazzler888 3 жыл бұрын
Only one is art, the other CNC disposable wear
@briannovak5028
@briannovak5028 3 жыл бұрын
I like that
@mohamedsultansultan4129
@mohamedsultansultan4129 3 жыл бұрын
The voice of the commentator is equally enchanting as the video and captivate.
@jakekaywell5972
@jakekaywell5972 Жыл бұрын
I think its about damned time that people in the wristwatch community tipped their hats to the fact that you can purchase a high quality tourbillon for less than 1,000$. That alone makes the sugess and other similar models from china as much of a trailblazer/innovation as the A.L.&S. they're two complete polar opposites, one is an achievement in unbridled craftsmanship and art at no thought of cost, and the other is an engineering marvel and unbridled artistic expression while constrained to a very tight budget and strapped to mass-manufacturing production protocols. The fact that the sugess looks as good as it does is brain-bending. Its a gorgeous watch. Its absolutely gorgeous. And I'm sure its "more hand made" than most of the chinese offerings due to the level of complexity, but remember, this thing was designed to be punched out in a factory, and is still managing to be a pleasing peace of artwork and reliable engineering. To me this is just as breathtaking and noteworthy of an undertaking as the handcrafted tourbillons. The sugess represents the impossible. Because until the chinese figured out how to mass produce such a complex watch, it simply "could not be done". So if I buy a 500$ tourbillon and the works are less than spotless, that's OK. it was built in a factory that probably also stamps out 500 thousand 10 dollar quartz watches a day. THAT ALONE IS AMAZING TO ME. Plus, for 500 dollars, you could purchase one of these and take it STRAIGHT to a fine watchmaker and have them disassemble, clean, re-assemble, and calibrate it for you and you'd still be under 1,000$ and it would then absolutely spotless and pristene at that point. with my current budget I could only afford the sugess. But if money was no object I'd have both. The sugess for regular wear, and I'd put on the handmade one for nights on the town or date night or parties or get togethers. Why? Because even if I could afford the lange, the sugess is as much of a work of art in a completely different way from a completely different direction, and I just can't help but appreciate it. Its a modern marvel to say the least.
@jakekaywell5972
@jakekaywell5972 Жыл бұрын
@@BobbyDazzler888 Nothing "disposable" about the Sugess either.
@Boom-Boom133
@Boom-Boom133 Жыл бұрын
love all the content, coming from a newb it has secured my interest in the industry. keep up the great work.
@MyVideosWillCalmU
@MyVideosWillCalmU 3 жыл бұрын
He said "Louie Breguet would have soiled his "sheets Iam weak 😂 Watchfinder best channel bar none 🙌🏾
@24934637
@24934637 Жыл бұрын
The A Lange & Sohne is in my personal view the ultimate in watchmaking perfection. I don't particularly like the model shown, but the quality of manufacturing is beyond belief!
@apoorvsaxena3886
@apoorvsaxena3886 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Video ! The art of presenting watches is an art in itself ! :)
@privatesocialhandle
@privatesocialhandle 3 жыл бұрын
I would bet my $$ that Sugess can make a watch on par with the AL&S watch for half the price and make twice the profit.
@casualsuede
@casualsuede Жыл бұрын
If you are a multi billionaire, it is like a guy making $35k/year buying this Sugess.
@IIIIIIIIlIIIIIIIIIIIIlIIIIIIl
@IIIIIIIIlIIIIIIIIIIIIlIIIIIIl 3 жыл бұрын
Having a Sugess 38mm Panda Chronograph, it surprisingly carries so much value for money!
@stevesigmund6243
@stevesigmund6243 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you do a video on Louis Moniet watches
@914Rocky
@914Rocky 3 жыл бұрын
That A Lange might be the best looking watch I’ve ever seen.
@barfymann362
@barfymann362 3 жыл бұрын
I'm keen to check out the Nivada Grenchen watches, sadly they're online only - can't find a retailer that has them in a showroom. That particular Lange is a thing of beauty, I was lucky enough to see one in person and my gosh - that dial is just something else.
@3316xtendedmedia
@3316xtendedmedia Жыл бұрын
What a stunning watch! The Lange&sohne!!
@patricknaswell2686
@patricknaswell2686 3 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal as always. You share your knowledge with such enthusiasm.
@nahumshabo
@nahumshabo Жыл бұрын
Where can I get the sugess watch?
@heath1234able
@heath1234able 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Chinas attempt at making somethething like an A. Lange & Söhne, and by that I mean with the same level of detail and craftsmanship, it would be interesting because if it worked it would be so much cheaper due to their labour costs, and you could have a beautiful hand crafted watch for a fraction of the price that the average person can afford.
@liuzhen1220
@liuzhen1220 3 жыл бұрын
A genuine seagull tourbillon simple dial with ST 8230 movement will cost about USD $2000 after 11.11 discount~
@stevestonrcguy5393
@stevestonrcguy5393 Жыл бұрын
Always love your dynamic commentary👍 can only dream of owning the beautiful German time piece, but then again, what is life without some dreams!🤠👍
@social3ngin33rin
@social3ngin33rin Жыл бұрын
@9:18 the teeth on those gears seem to have a little blow out from the cutting process? Maybe cut slower and cut less material?
@adamf8335
@adamf8335 Жыл бұрын
When you look at the detail shots in the video it becomes quickly apparent that the A. Lange & Söhne 1815 Tourbillon has not been finished as well as it should have been. There are many flaws there and as far as I'm concerned its either a fake or should never have left the manufacturer. Hand made is not better in this case. Look for example at 6:50, the edge of the number 4. Horrible. 7:05 and again the letters are poorly finished. 8:58 and the scrollwork is rough. For that money I expect near perfection. Look at Grand Seiko in comparison. I'm far more impressed with the Sugess!
@thomasmyers6000
@thomasmyers6000 3 жыл бұрын
LOVE THESE BUDGET WATCH VIDEOS.. WE CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD THEM
@NotoriousBBB
@NotoriousBBB 3 жыл бұрын
Really like the videos that show the strong points of expensive watches but also the affordable ones
@thewatchmission7693
@thewatchmission7693 3 жыл бұрын
I have hardly seen any reviews on Union Glashutte. I have heard their story and it seems like an interesting one along with a very good value proposition. I hope you consider doing a deep dive into their watches soon. Thanks!
@bigwangmark
@bigwangmark Жыл бұрын
Sugess has some really nice watches out and I am going to get a few because they are such amazing value. Even on sale when I looked so a watch like in the video is under $300us. Still I like my high end watches and that A. Lange & Söhne is beyond beautiful and beyond a work of art. It's something if I was lucky to ever own one would see me just sitting for hours watching it and enjoying the amazing level of craftsmanship.
@neilsamuel5268
@neilsamuel5268 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone please tell me the name of the font used in the A&S for the numbers? I LOVE that font so much because we had a wall clock with the same font when I grew up, and it's kinda drilled in my memory....
@richardnedbalek1968
@richardnedbalek1968 3 жыл бұрын
2:21 Notice that the direction of the brush marks on the Ones differs by the respective position of the indices.
@JohnICGomes
@JohnICGomes 3 жыл бұрын
Love that Asahi Pentax K1000 in your video!
@bradleymorgan8223
@bradleymorgan8223 2 жыл бұрын
seeing that second hand snap to zero, sharp as a salute... ooh i got the tingles
@ronny1617
@ronny1617 2 жыл бұрын
It is funny you made that car analogy and mentioned the Dacia Sandero as I'm Romanian! But man, you macro shots are unrivaled. You get so close that it makes us think you're using a microscope not a macro lens!
@bryanharrison3889
@bryanharrison3889 2 жыл бұрын
I think its about damned time that people in the wristwatch community tipped their hats to the fact that you can purchase a high quality tourbillon for less than 1,000$. That alone makes the sugess and other similar models from china as much of a trailblazer/innovation as the A.L.&S. they're two complete polar opposites, one is an achievement in unbridled craftsmanship and art at no thought of cost, and the other is an engineering marvel and unbridled artistic expression while constrained to a very tight budget and strapped to mass-manufacturing production protocols. The fact that the sugess looks as good as it does is brain-bending. Its a gorgeous watch. Its absolutely gorgeous. And I'm sure its "more hand made" than most of the chinese offerings due to the level of complexity, but remember, this thing was designed to be punched out in a factory, and is still managing to be a pleasing peace of artwork and reliable engineering. To me this is just as breathtaking and noteworthy of an undertaking as the handcrafted tourbillons. The sugess represents the impossible. Because until the chinese figured out how to mass produce such a complex watch, it simply "could not be done". So if I buy a 500$ tourbillon and the works are less than spotless, that's OK. it was built in a factory that probably also stamps out 500 thousand 10 dollar quartz watches a day. THAT ALONE IS AMAZING TO ME. Plus, for 500 dollars, you could purchase one of these and take it STRAIGHT to a fine watchmaker and have them disassemble, clean, re-assemble, and calibrate it for you and you'd still be under 1,000$ and it would then absolutely spotless and pristene at that point. with my current budget I could only afford the sugess. But if money was no object I'd have both. The sugess for regular wear, and I'd put on the handmade one for nights on the town or date night or parties or get togethers. Why? Because even if I could afford the lange, the sugess is as much of a work of art in a completely different way from a completely different direction, and I just can't help but appreciate it. Its a modern marvel to say the least.
@mrbookends
@mrbookends 3 жыл бұрын
I said it before and I'll say it again: I have three Sugess pieces, two of them chronographs (one with moonphase and date) and they're all fantastic +6 per day on one +12 on the others and if you swap the name out for anything Swiss, you would have to do a long double take to catch it. I'm going to pick up a variation of this specific co-axial tourbillon immediately after my tax refund comes in and won't think twice about spending the $500
@BobbyDazzler888
@BobbyDazzler888 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@andrewwilson8273
@andrewwilson8273 3 жыл бұрын
I have this watch - different dial design but otherwise the same watch, in rose gold. I am happy to commend it to you, albeit I paid rather more than $500.
@plusgood15
@plusgood15 3 жыл бұрын
Calm down
@jesvans
@jesvans Жыл бұрын
that L&S looks AWESOME !!!
@sleeplessingc
@sleeplessingc Жыл бұрын
I own a Luis Bolle' tourbillon that most likely has a seagull movement. It is an amazing timepiece. No it didn't cost near as much but it is an amazing piece of engineering. I always get a bit disturbed when I hear people down talk eastern products because it's the pinnacle of bias. These are excellent moral people of the highest intelligence merely trying to achieve the same thing the finest watchmakers in Switzerland are trying to achieve. Excellence. I am so glad that I don't see that bias here. So my tourbillon is made in the east and I love it. I have my eye on several sugess timepieces. As well as another Louis Bolle' tourbillon. Great, great video.
@Igo2slo4u2cme
@Igo2slo4u2cme 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to make a request/suggestion. Could you please put the mic up to the watches and let us hear them ticking?
@alexbrown7665
@alexbrown7665 3 жыл бұрын
How is the dial rhodium played if no electricity is used in its manufacturing?
@andyholton7959
@andyholton7959 3 жыл бұрын
Great job and thank you 🙏
@TroyMcMahon89
@TroyMcMahon89 3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking about this exact watch yesterday night. Thanks for your insight on the reliability of the movement 🙂🐾
@CaptainSpud80
@CaptainSpud80 10 ай бұрын
That’s great 😂… comparing the two watches … the seagull is like a sun dial compared to the A L S … needed a good laugh cause it’s so true
@TerryBollea1
@TerryBollea1 2 жыл бұрын
The sugess looks like a flying, while the other one looks like a standard.
@johnburgess6572
@johnburgess6572 3 жыл бұрын
"polished with a brick " oh my gosh hilarious hahahahha lolzzz
@richardstephens6957
@richardstephens6957 3 жыл бұрын
The dial on the Alange is just beautiful
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