Watching Some New Analog Horror

[@TheSylvanPariah]

Wendigoon falling for the door knocking audio not once, not twice, but THREE TIMES is proof enough he'd never survive a mimicking creature of any sort. Bless his heart.

[@miniraptor3211]

What's even better is that he could've just looked at his phone to check if it was actually the pizza man the whole time.

[@FleckAndFire]

Ngl, Ive seen this livestream once already, but I’m watching it again now, I’m upstairs by myself here in the O.R. and the knocking got me so bad

[@zackariadieng9553]

@@FleckAndFire thought and prayers for you

[@ferth2315]

The person in chat saying “it’s not door dash” and him taking it as a joke about the video when it seriously wasn’t door dash😂

[@Snowymae]

Bless his heart, the kindest insult a southerner could give

[@sammieslaterjr.8982]

That bit about "a friend walking up to you and asking you something vs a stranger running up to you and blowing an airhorn in your face asking you something" to explain detachment from overblown storytelling with lack of narrative worldbuilding was absolute gold, such a true and intuitive explanation on an otherwise pretty hard to grasp concept.

[@MaddyCoppolo]

I thought so too! Before I was having trouble understanding why exactly it was so disturbing but after he explained that concept a bit with the analogy it started to come together in my mind. Impressive how he did that.

[@GrumbledInkEntertainment]

Wendigoon and Alex Kister watched my film?!! Pretty freakin' cool! Thank you for reacting to my video!

[@O.Reagano]

You did a great job man, be proud

[@antzerobooks]

that's such good video, it's not fun to watch because well, you know. but it is really really good

[@royalhydra9790]

You should be really proud, it's super well done, and the claymation looks amazing

[@TheDonJonGames]

Ofc, hope it inspires you to make more👍

[@jacktheyeager6174]

Yeaa rockin vid!

[@Stone016]

Wendigoon realizing how messed up urban spook is and then skipping the least graphic episodes and skipping to the worst one is so funny to me

[@ik3a141]

its messed up, but its fucking great tbh, makes u feel disgusted, but in the good horror way

[@Gonajoongle]

@@ik3a141 no it's just ass whenever the forced shock horror nonsense doesnt work it becomes a super lame series

[@MJelly-yj8kp]

​@@ik3a141simply delusional

[@You-so2jy]

​@@MJelly-yj8kppeople realizing serial killer do fucked up shit for literally no apparent reasonin a story about serial killers:😯

[@IESVSCHRISTVSDOMINVSNOSTEREST]

@@ik3a141 it's not scary, it's a slideshow presentation on why you should be scared

[@XivuCallsMePookie]

I remember being told that if you can replace the child in a story with an adult and have the same end result, then you dont need the child. Only use a child in a story when it is critical that it be a child, like in the first story where it is from the "animated' fake perspective of an imaginative boy, that wouldnt work by replacing with an adult, so it is critical. Ive gone by that rule since ive heard it.

[@azulululul000]

Oo that actually is really good advice, I hope more people would see this more

[@ParsureArts]

Ayo, that’s pretty smart. Thanks for the tip-

[@antirevomag834]

I'd agree but with the exceptions of emotional control. If you can make a story horrible, emotional, terrifying, etc. with a child, but you can't without a child, it's more bad writing, than it is a situation that calls for a child. It's like killing a dog in a movie. If the dog's death is vital for the emotions of the audience, then the dog's death is ONLY there for the emotions of the audience. People react differently to torture of animals or children, so it's easy to throw them in to get a reaction.

[@SirDankleberry]

Just seems like another way to control writing.

[@XivuCallsMePookie]

​@@antirevomag834 oh for sure, if you're unable to grip the audience with strong emotion without using a child or animal that's just bad writing, not that using an animal or child is bad, look at John Wick, but you should be able to add shock without going for the stereotypical "child gets hurt/dog gets hurt" if you wanted to. You have to have a good balance of both.

[@REELWORKS12923]

I think we can all agree the highlight of the stream was Wendi getting scared by a door knocking

[@tribble_omg]

Three times in a row, no less

[@spunkmckunkle5604]

For me, it was him finding the frame step buttons. Every five minutes I was saying to myself "someone please show this man those buttons. "

[@CodeeXD]

Tbf it gets me literally everytime I watch it if I have headphones on. Even though I know it's coming I guess I subconsciously forget or something but that shit makes me jump and sends chills down my spine. Especially cause I'm usually sitting somewhere not by a door

[@donatoclemente4421]

​​@@spunkmckunkle5604 on God 😂

[@donatoclemente4421]

​@@CodeeXD Same

[@mackennzie9]

Between Wendi discovering the frame-by-frame keys and the bamboozlement by a binaural door knock sound effect, this stream has been absolutely glorious. I'm only halfway through and it could be hot garbage for the rest of the video and I will remember it as one of my favorites.

[@InspectahReese]

Honestly the best stream to ever be streamed

[@sea-fr]

It was hot garbage for a while (US) but Vita Carnis redeemed it by far

[@burritomensch1257]

I’m partial to chat desperately trying to warn him to change the channel while he keeps going ‘nono guys it’s gonna get good any minute now’ for an hour straight

[@MoobOgler]

32:32 (985) JERMAAAAA

[@juan-diegosanchez-arbieto7463]

Help a poor soul please, what's the frame-by-frame keys :(

[@LambentV]

Him finding out he could play videos frame by frame was great character development

[@joserios4409]

His character arc is complete.

[@scrungobeepis5443]

Not to mention falling for the iconic Knock sound effect not once, not twice, but thrice

[@gorillaprutt]

to be fair for him, it wasn't always a feature, it used to be a chrome add on and then youtube updated it to be a feature for the actual site.

[@androgynousmaggot9389]

Also finding out you have better options than 480p

[@Tabnito]

someone said "​I think a 2 inch meatsnake would be better, preferable even" durring the meatsnake part 💀

[@lybasily]

help☠️☠️

[@tired247]

Average, even.

[@duck7445]

​@@tired247 big. In some circumstances?

[@tabithal2977]

​@@duck7445 maybe two inches wide, thats what they mean I hope

[@hostomelhorsehoarder]

@@tabithal2977 yall dont have a 1 foot wider

[@certifiedcitydestroyer]

his ass is NOT surviving a mimic attack

[@big.word.energy8569]

The fact that Wendi doesn't recognize the Fair Use door knock that ALL the horror videos use... we have no choice but to stan

[@igorlukyan206]

Bro my wife woke me up telling me that someone was knocking while we were in bed AT THE EXACT SAME MOMENT. Thing is, I was in my earphones so she 100% couldn’t hear the stream

[@ghizghuth2088]

​@@igorlukyan206Soo.... Did you check it out? Are you still alive?

[@Hvision0000]

@@igorlukyan206she was watching stream too

[@InVinoVeratas]

What we've learned here today is that Wendi, would not survive a Mimic, or many horror tropes for that matter.

[@GeorgeBoberbumbo]

Honestly I feel like Urban Spooks is almost a new version of those pinkypie creepypastas where gratuitous violence is just shoved in your face to get a reaction and that's about it

[@griffy9639]

the pictures have a kind of Jeff the Killer/Smiledog vibe to them too ngl. which...isn't inherently a bad thing i guess? it could be inspired by old creepypasta. idk lol

[@weepo2651]

@@griffy9639I think them being made as paintings helps him get away with the bad looking Jpegs which is a good work around

[@TowaLowa654]

I hate urban spooks it’s not scary it’s just gross

[@theeternal2734]

​@@TowaLowa654 Just Because It's Shocking Doesn't Make It Inherently Bad

[@TheSkylerMack]

Not to mention the creator has done weird CSA reference in content in the past before this too

[@cjperez1186]

I think a big part as to why urban spook fails as a horror series is its presentation. It's much more like slideshow than something actually investing.

[@winonarose7488]

It’s just sooooooo boring and overdone, like yea yea child torture and sexual abuse. There is no story, there is no substance, no creativity besides the whole painting thing and the art itself. And the shock horror isn’t even really horror, it’s just unnecessary. It’s sad to see such a good idea done so badly

[@You-so2jy]

​@@winonarose7488like 60 percent of serial killer just killed tortured and raped for the fuck of it but oh well

[@potato_duud6166]

and just too brutal it really wasnt scary its pretty much just here is this guy hes dead here is a kid he is also dead here is a creepy picture of the killer and here is another guy who died

[@danram0617]

There is no structure at all with the series from what I can tell.

[@AgentChaos747]

It hardly counts as analog horror at all and I don’t understand why it’s classified as such. There are no video or broadcast elements whatsoever, just edgelord text and digital art.

[@CrokedBlueCreeper101]

Some highlights and/or useful timestamps: 8:40 - The Kid and the Camera reaction 12:53 - Why children's creepy drawings are so effective 28:55 - UrbanSPOOK starts, and how NOT to tell a story 1:12:06 - Vita Carnis starts 1:13:10 - Why Vita Carnis succeeds where UrbanSpook fails 1:27:05 - Man (Wendi) Discovers Fire (frame skipping) 1:31:58 - Full Wendigoon documentary 1:45:26 - It eats people. No biggie. 1:47:10 - Wendi discovers a new fear 1:48:25 - Falling for fake knock #1 1:49:02 - Falling for fake knock #2. To his terror, no one is there. 1:51:55 - Falling for fake knock #3. He is ashamed. 1:57:10 - Insanely impressive practical effects sequence 2:06:45 - Man Discovers Fire 2 (heightened video quality) and rereads story pages 2:13:57 - Wendigoon finds a new soulmate 2:20:17 - An EVEN WORSE fear unlocked 2:24:03 - Wendi really loves his wife 2:33:24 - Wendi gets revenge on his chat 2:34:00 - WhooaAAAhhh WhooaAAAAHHhhh 3:14:39 - Wendi is straight up not having a good time rn 3:39:45 - UH OH❗❗ 4:05:14 - Portrait of God reaction feel free to add anything I may have missed

[@enriquesaenz3574]

2:34:00 👀

[@joelle5996]

2:16:00 Wendi gives thanks to the Lord then asks chat a critical question

[@utterlygrosstrash]

thank you

[@spectralv5641]

Vita carnis isn't scary in the slightest altough

[@CrokedBlueCreeper101]

@@spectralv5641 dude you’re so cool did anyone tell you that?

[@t1dotaku]

That mimic leaning through the doorway has been living rent free in my head since I saw it during the livestream. That scare was just sooooooo good

[@tommykarrick9130]

One of the best jumpscares I’ve seen in media in a long time, even upon rewatching it just to get a better look it still startles me because the monster is so well made. Not to mention it makes perfect sense for this kind of monster to act the way it does and how the series had held off on jump scares all the way until that moment

[@DraconisMarchVII]

@@tommykarrick9130 It wasn't a jumpscare. It was built to slowly and effectively.

[@tommykarrick9130]

@@DraconisMarchVII okay people complaining about fnaf has broken peoples minds on what the word “jumpscare” means. It was a jumpscare, as in it is a scare that makes you jump. What people actually don’t like are lazy jumpscares, where there’s no real tension or buildup or a lack of an effective payoff, where they just flash something in your face for no reason. This is opposed to an effective jumpscare, like what was use in the video, where there’s lots of tension creeping up towards the scare and then the payoff that makes you jump because it’s so fast and sudden. A non-jumpscare in that situation would have had the scene end before the monster ever lunged towards the camera. It wouldn’t necessarily be any more or less scary/effective, it just wouldn’t pay off with a jolt of energy making you jump out of your seat

[@Glimmerfizz]

​​@@tommykarrick9130gree completely. I am sat in bed watching this and I have work tomorrow. Damn near screamed when that Mimic came into full view. EDIT: IT GETS WORSE. THERE IS MORE MIMIC FOUND FOOTAGE STUFF AND I BOTH LOVE AND HATE IT. 😱

[@otter_nerd4419]

It was amazing, it got me yelling at Wendigoon to stop replaying it....until I remembered I can skip 😅

[@jonathaninga2691]

“Put it on .25 and pray” I love this guy lol what a humble guy

[@MistyMtnsAflame]

He immediately picked up on the UrbanSPOOK controversy in two minutes flat. I liked how horrific the Faces series was, but after the way the creator treated Child Sexual Assault as nothing more than “shock value” and then proceeded to make MERCH out of it…. Really raised a red flag there. That’s not someone making intelligent horror, that’s a genuinely off-kilter individual throwing the worst things they can think of into the audiences face carelessly.

[@mrghost3272]

I've been in contact with plenty people like this. Especially how he mentions random acts of violence, then doesn't touch on how serious it actually is. Seriously, one "edgy" girl I've met at a writing class. Randomly described her plan to rip peoples skulls out of their heads. Or said how "WW2 mustache man was actually objectionably hilarious." After this dude's series I wonder if its a trend or something.

[@mystomachaches]

EXACTLY, I see so many people using the excuse of “well this happens in real life all the time!!” but the thing is theres plenty of people out there who have portrayed these dark themes in media in a respectful and effective way plenty of times

[@mystomachaches]

(urban is clearly not one of these people)

[@x0_2q54]

Literally 💀 and his reaction to people being concerned is so gross-

[@htspencer9084]

It cheapens horror to use it so blasé and undermine the real and true horror of these situations.

[@ComradeCage]

Wendigoon: Well thought-out critiques on the nuances of analog horror, and how to make your audience invested Also Wendigoon: ""Yooo, you can slow stuff down by *frames?*"

[@awildbagel6723]

Urban spook is the perfect example of someone wanting to capitalize off a trend, but not understanding what made that thing popular in the first place

[@OrificeHorus]

I'd argue otherwise. Apparently he has an alternate art channel where he takes things to a sexual extreme. Oh, and he's monetizing and making merchandise off of CSA, so that's fun. Cory is the character in question if I recall.

[@bungbananaman]

​@@OrificeHorusHow old are you

[@GriffRunning]

@@bungbananamannot old enough to be watching this more than likely

[@adrianaslund8605]

​@@bungbananamanI see no reason to question his age. It seemed like a pretty mature take.

[@bungbananaman]

@@adrianaslund8605 lmao

[@lunavarney2]

I remember I was in class while watching this, and during the mimic jumpscare, i was thinking the same thing as wendi "oh that's really cool he made a mimic hand" and then I saw the eye and head and thought "WOW THIS GUY MADE A WHOLE MIMIC BODY WOAH" and I was too entranced with the production value and forgot that it was a classic jumpscare lead-up. I visibly jumped in my chair and everyone looked at me lmao. Proof that jumpscares aren't all bad

[@purpleguy319]

A good rule of thumb is you get one jumpscare per segment (ie. Chapter, episode, ect.). More than that makes the impact lessened.

[@kellyalves756]

You were in class?? Cool class!

[@hoist8111]

It's up there with the sick baby in Eraserhead for most effective jumpscare I've ever seen.

[@Deadflower019]

Jumpscares need a lead up to be effective!!

[@Conorator]

@@kellyalves756 Odds are it was a boring class, and they were secretly watching videos on their phone because they were bored.

[@nonniebonnie3584]

1:27:47 Is where Wendi figures out he can go frame by frame if that's driving anyone else crazy lol.

[@Aodhan2717]

Thank you! Although it is always comforting to find out someone else in their 20s is a boomer 🤪

[@DollarInTheWoods]

@@ChillyCharizard006 , and . keys

[@Daiyamaruu]

Wendigoon Just completed his dad form transformation

[@RocRolDis]

He is so pure.

[@DARKgirafa]

@@DollarInTheWoods Would you mind expanding on this? Doesn't work on my end.

[@lucianov.perdomo5075]

I cannot believe he’s wearing a t shirt and not a Hawaiian shirt

[@30daysnosleep]

I WAS WONDERING WHY HE LOOKED STRANGE TO ME

[@InVinoVeratas]

As praise would say, "Anyone wearing a Hawaiian shirt, is a conservative terrorist"

[@DarkLordIggy]

UrbanSpook is a winner of the pizza cutter award for being all edge and no point.

[@taquitobandito6054]

You’re just not a horror fan. It’s ok kiddo. Let the adults have fun, go to bed.

[@cptazstudios7952]

@@taquitobandito6054 sorry I’m with @DarkLordlggy on this one, there was no point,

[@Dog.This_Identifier_Is_Shit.]

​@@cptazstudios7952It's a troll. It just keeps repeating the same comment for whatever reason

[@noslen293]

@@Dog.This_Identifier_Is_Shit. what an incredibly pathetic existence he leads lol

[@slitheen3]

Omfg "pizza cutter award for being all edge and no point" is FANTASTIC. Love that haha. I love me some edgy horror on occasion, but you need some kind of point besides "Isn't this gross and shocking?! Aren't you grossed out and upset?"

[@baron1324]

it’s incredible how much more effective the knock was at scaring me compared to the entirety of Urbanspooks. the paintings were interesting, but being told a woman was killed by a horse hopped up on dick pills or children being mutilated is just abhorrent and vile.

[@inthefort6003]

It's really sick and not in a good way. Going for the lowest of lows just to get a scare and still failing. Really disappointing how many people tout the series as one of the greats if the genre.

[@ShrimpCup]

Idk, maybe I’m alone here but horror is horror. Yes the merch thing is weird but I think urban spook has something cool here where it’s a unique idea and story, and I can at least respect that.

[@Shythalia]

It could've been really good but some of it is really unnecessary.

[@coredang]

@@ShrimpCup Not sure about the unique part, yes it has potential but like, still potential for now

[@ShrimpCup]

@@coredang hey fair enough

[@lata1224]

Wendigoon early stream: "I dont want to be mean here." Wendigoon at 2:33:25 : *Guantanamo Bay torture techniques*

[@renegadetrooper7224]

The angel of vengeance 😂

[@RollMeAFat1]

The boy and the camera actually gave me chills over my ENTIRE body, that was so good Also every time wendigoon was off camera I expected the stream to become part of the analogue horror

[@ZachPrime]

I really hope that we get a comprehensive Vita Carnis video, it has such a great setup. There's still arguments in the community over whether the Creator backtracked on earlier decisions or if all of that is plot relevant as disinformation or complete misunderstanding of earlier events and I would love to have more people covering it.

[@PedroFerreira-ne3jv]

Where do people discuss this type of stuff? The live really got me excited to watch more of Carnis but I only see discussion of this type of things in KZbin comments

[@discox8967]

​@@PedroFerreira-ne3jvi haven't looked into it but theres probably a reddit page for it?

[@eyecon1189]

Ik im 6 months late but there actually is one it’s an hour long and it’s an entire retrospective video about the lore with added theories on where it goes

[@RandomnessCreates]

@@eyecon1189 Where is it? Can't find it

[@TheGeorgeSquid]

Wendigoon has gotta do one for carnis 😢

[@otherone4804]

I want someone to look at me the way wendigoon looks at man made horrors beyond our comprehension

[@wingerding]

With fear?

[@KatZEdition]

​@@wingerdingYet with respect, understanding and maybe a bit of romantic flair

[@lalafellgaming]

having seen the door clip before watching the vod, him saying he is going to order doordash is like the Chekov's gun setup

[@jbark678]

There had to be something supernatural about that first story. It was a perfectly clean cut with no blood splatter and the feet are relaxed.

[@LambentV]

Maybe they got severed when he went through the “portal”

[@spacebar1002]

i ated it

[@mackaroni33]

The feet could have been placed there at a later time though, doing enough to make sure there was no blood and then placing them specifically for that purpose? Regardless I think the "portal" does have something to do with it.

[@O.Reagano]

@@mackaroni33 hate to tell you but there wasn’t a portal

[@mackaroni33]

@@O.Reagano lol I'm aware but I do think there's an explanation for the portal part, the same way that the kid was seeing everything through his lens and the camera showed what was real. i don't think it's supernatural but i do think there is a real-world equivalent to the portal in some manner, and that is what was used to kill the kid.

[@shiftclickgaming7197]

the knocking had to have been the funniest thing i’ve seen in a minute, marvelous

[@aff77141]

closely followed by "You can go frame by frame?!" and "Oh you can just read it when it's not in 480p"

[@Shythalia]

I'm jealous of y'all that can just change the quality of the YT vids and then carry on watching them because the internet here is soooo sloooow that when *I* try to change the vid's quality to a higher one, it just bloody lags and the video stops working. :|

[@妬み-g1i]

The way he laughed with such embarrassment is so funny BUT i couldnt help to pity him for some reason LMAO

[@ryf3905]

the second one definitely feels like the guy had a bunch of cool visuals (which ARE absolutely really cool and spooky), and like loosely built a story around it

[@ryf3905]

not saying they actually did that but like it feels really shallow w no world building or anything

[@jackharkins74]

I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what he did.

[@reddotsxul8166]

@@ryf3905 I believe that’s intended. I’m a big fan of urban spook and I don’t think it’s fair to say the world building is shallow. From the way the tapes are formatted, it’s as if law enforcement made it and we’re watching how they’re forming the evidence. It makes the killer more interesting because it makes him appear more unknown, brutal, and intelligent

[@pluckyscuds]

I like urbanspook, I feel like it's like the slasher equivalent of analog horror.

[@SoopDwagg]

it also was hands down the most annoying segment to watch live with all the people spamming over and over again to skip it in chat.

[@marchingham]

The knocking was funny but the fact that Wendi gets more southern with his dog is what does it for me

[@JuggaloEMO]

You are a positive and refreshing influence on KZbin. What you said about not having the donate button on to just have it on to take our money when you don’t need it was awesome. Very few people act that way, the respectful way. Please don’t ever change and I hope you’re channel and your KZbin presence keeps growing. Thank you

[@jolynn89]

🙏🏼🙌🏼

[@roal69]

Vita Carnis seems like a great representation of the destruction from war. As it goes on with the higher level animals things just get worse and worse for the world and it becomes more of a terror in larger populated areas.

[@CosmiqueRays]

Then unclear bombs

[@reggie9010]

@@CosmiqueRayswait til you find out about clear bombs 😱

[@SlimeyBaron]

​@@reggie9010let's not forget about the translucent bombs 😨😨😨

[@Dubulcle]

What?

[@bonebrokebuddy5248]

2:51:06 I Know this is just my experience in food service yelling at me but the utterly Visceral reaction I had to the vegetables being cut on a cutting board without the raw meat being cleaned off and sanitized was more than I had of any jumpscare in the series so far. Ik it’s for the visual of the video but remember folks, always clean your cutting boards after cutting raw meat on it before you cut non-raw meat products on it and clean your knife as well No Matter What. It’s better to be safe than get food poisoning or e.coli

[@CodeeXD]

Dude that shit made my skin crawl! I was screaming at my phone "CROSS CONTAMINATION! WASH YOUR FUCKING CUTTING BOARD!" Legit the most horrifying part 😂

[@CaitlinMagness]

also don’t cut meat on a wooden cutting board, the juices soak in

[@jordangalvan1093]

Omfg right like I was physically upset about when I first saw it

[@Shythalia]

I don't cook at all and even I can see the few mistakes he made. The little mess up with the water at the beginning doesn't really count as a mistake for me because that just happens sometimes and it sucks so it's relatable. lol But aside from what you pointed out, when making a cooking video, don't you normally put (most of) the measured ingredients in cups, plates, & bowls? You don't just dump them on the table & cutting board. Also when transferring chopped food from the board to a plate, bowl, pot, or whatever, isn't it more preferred to like slide the food down into it to make it easier than picking them up with your hand?

[@denisecastellanos4866]

Makes me glad that I don't actually cook or eat meat. Him continuing to cut food on that bloody cutting board was like something out of a horror movie. That being said, I think the awkwardness of the entire cooking sequence was actually done on purpose, for this precise effect.

[@tominite8672]

I agree with what you said about the children’s drawings being interpretations that can’t fully grasp the real horror. I thought about that when we see Gabriel standing behind Dave with the blurry messed up face. And thought to myself that that’s probably more akin to what Gabriel looked like to the Shepard’s in Overthrone

[@quirkychap]

I'm suspecting that there are 2 opposing narrators. The male voice seems to generally give good, useful information, while the female voice seems to be giving advice that would get you killed. The female voice specifically says that conventional weapons are entirely useless against mimics, but the male voice gives useful information in his advice to cripple it by aiming for the legs and head. And when directly encountering a mimic, she says to immediately run and hide, saying that they never choose to pursue prey for very long, despite the video displaying the mimic clearly stalking the person behind the camera. While his advice is to act larger and appear threatening, with the behavioral proof of they themselves using their anatomy to try and make themselves appear more intimidating, like a bear. Not to mention, the female narrator is the one doing the "flavor enhancer" commercial, and the trimming care guide (with the trimmings obviously being what are essentially spy drones). The male narrator seems intent on providing actually helpful information and advice, while the female narrator appears to want to cause human casualties.

[@passerinity]

It’s hilarious and adorable that you can tell how legitimately scared he was with the knocking at the door, especially when he was fiddling with his fists

[@brendanfields3691]

Man the difference between that spooky guys series and ther series right after is so drastic its crazy the meat creatures were super well done

[@Thebatcavepetfriendlybakery]

Fr, it's night and day! The story telling and effort put into vita carnis is so evident, meanwhile the painting one was just to showcase the guy's paintings and he slapped a shocking story to it for attention and shock value. It couldve been so much better but it felt like a rough draft at the least. Vita carnis was fully.. fleshed.. out you could say lol. The way each organism works with the world and how they have survived is brilliant. More than just some mystery from space thats immoral so thats how its alive, its an actual organism with a life span and everything. So cool

[@bcollins3811]

not to be dramatic but i fucking love when wendigoon streams and reacts to analog horror

[@beeleav]

not to be dramatic but i fucking love when wendigoon reacts to analog horror off-camera i get a real nice view from the window

[@jac3ythedingo233]

​@@beeleav not to be dramatic but I freaking love the deinonychus of the dromaeosaurid species, close relative to the velociraptor.

[@bradleyd.9801]

@@beeleav Not to be dramatic but you should try the view from inside his walls, wayyyy clearer view from here

[@precesionnoreaster1507]

​@@jac3ythedingo233 not to be dramatic but I love deinonychous too I a few years ago found out when jurassic park was wrote the species of deinonychous they used was considered a Velociraptor Anthiropus and was later correctly Deinonychous when they found it had little similarities to Velociraptor Mongolienses

[@jester6623]

Me too it’s my comfort videos

[@spunkmckunkle5604]

While you can laugh at Wendigoon for the knocking, that knocking was so real with headphones. I was in bed, on the second floor, and I still looked to my right.

[@Atri0]

Dude I didn't even have headphones on and I thought someone was knocking

[@griffy9639]

it got me the first time i watched it too lmao. i yelled "HELLO?" through the door and then felt like an idiot

[@aeteno703]

same here, i'm fairly close to my door but it's on my left and it still got me.

[@DG713415]

I was putting together a bookshelf while playing this on my TV with full surround sound and I thought someone was knocking on my door too. My dog even started barking when it kept happening.

[@bubbles1044]

I don't understand how it can sound real, I am wearing headphones and my door is to the right but I know what knocking on my door sounds like and it is very different from the sound in the video, do all y'all's doors just sound the same or something?

[@urheehoo]

no offense but i've been waiting months for you to figure out how to go frame by frame on youtube videos and words cannot express how thankful i am that this very moment is immortalized on video. it was everything i'd hoped and more lmao

[@levsco_]

How far in does it happen because I'm about to scream

[@levsco_]

Nevermind it happened 30 seconds after my comment and it was glorious

[@upexus2076]

That was such a beautiful moment lol

[@Crocadillius1123]

It’s like my grandpa figuring out how to send a text

[@urheehoo]

@@Crocadillius1123 right like i unironically am very proud of him lolol

[@TheArachnidCompany]

Something in the first story that i dont think many picked up on is that the man knew Calebs name. Caleb never said it to him, and if we believe what he said, he knows the house layout and his parents so its likely this man was stalking Caleb for a while.

[@Lil1kv]

God this gave me chills

[@tilted_axis9819]

The thing that always gets me about a lot of the monsters in series like Vina Carna is the idea of organic creatures being so immune to damage that we can’t kill them at all. Like saying that makes me think like “can a mimic or host survive being mag dumped by a m82?”, “can the harvester survive being coated in napalm?”

[@timothyparrish4719]

Theres a line, "it won't stop it in time" I always took it as you won't kill them before they kill you

[@kalxek1462]

I figured something like an elephant gun or 50 cal would do the trick, but most people wouldn't have that. A pistol or a shotty with buck shot is what most people have and its not enough. Kinda like with bear attacks.

[@WitcherSoda]

The video does say to contact the authorities. I imagine that some heavy firepower would put them down. It showed a bat and a pistol, so something with armor piercing capabilities?

[@benboothroyd1523]

Yep, I understand why but the underestimation of humans in a lot of analog horror that does that is quite comical and immersion breaking

[@batyalivni3577]

If you continue watching the series it implies that this is misleading advice, potentially on purpose. Later videos suggest that they can be overpowered, and that's why they choose to attack while their victim is asleep. I think this is really interesting because that raises the question of who is spreading misinformation, and what their motive is

[@perote3]

I live with my younger sister and she usually knocks on my door before entering my room, I heard a knock and said "come in" after a while she didn't enter and I remembered she wasn't home today so I had to check if the house was indeed empty, so yeah, I understand how you felt lol.

[@cristinaestrella]

I would’ve flipped out especially if I have an attic or basement

[@hymnbos]

DAWG THAT'S SO SCARY.

[@musicaluprising924]

I grew up in the UK and the crazy thing about the first video is that it feels a lot like the shows that I would have watched as a kid. Particularly shows like Noddy, Postman Pat, Fireman Sam, Shaun the Sheep, etc. The similarities are uncanny.

[@dangerxbadger2300]

Aww my daughter LOVES Shaun the Sheep!!

[@dangerxbadger2300]

And that's what I thought too!! Nightmare fuel version of Wallace and Grommit!

[@musicaluprising924]

@@dangerxbadger2300 Shaun the Sheep is an awesome show

[@robinsea]

The fairy appearing at the window reminds me really strongly of something that happened in grisly tales for gruesome kids where a guy stole a kids eyelids and turned them into moths BC he didn't go to bed on time lol

[@purpleguy319]

@Robin C I think I remember that. The guy's name was Mister Peeler, and he removed the eyelids with a vegetable peeler.

[@modernmusic52]

the "extremely tame" meat snake picture reminded me of the "a doghouse, but theres no dog" silent hill meme

[@MozeXI]

That's cause the dog is in the ending /j

[@AleTitan]

​@@MozeXIis the J for Japenese ending or Joking?

[@_Fuscous]

@@AleTitanIt's a tone indicator, used to be more mindful of those who have trouble distinguishing the tone of what people say through text. Whether something is sarcastic, a joke, fully serious, a half joke, etcetera.

[@icyfire97]

“Did she say Banarnar” hahahahahahaha this entire stream was just pure gold, thanks Wendi

[@kountstakula232]

The best man, I've been trying to find some of the bits of him doing the mocking voice for so long lmao

[@Cinnamon_enthusiast]

I think urbanspook ultimately fails bc it’s basically an edgy slide show with VHS filtering over it; you can only make text and supporting images so compelling, and gory sexual abuse imagery gets tired quickly

[@htspencer9084]

It is defo low effort. Which is a shame because I think they have the potential to do so much better!

[@probablydeadinside7877]

to make it worse, it's confirmed that he's just reusing artwork from some kind horror art event..

[@NegaRenGenX2gay2lift]

@@probablydeadinside7877 so the paintings are not his?

[@probablydeadinside7877]

@@NegaRenGenX2gay2lift they ARE his, but they were never even made with any planning or actual story to them; he just threw them together from that old art thing for something that actively lacks an actual story, which just,, kinda sucks, tbh if it weren't for both that and the weird focus of his on CSA in both this and past animations from years ago, it would have actually been interesting, but all it has going for it at all is shock value, which just gets old after a while imo

[@doodguytheblank2403]

So like every other analog horror?

[@jas3.14]

I think the second analogue horror, with the paintings and murders, is overshooting what it is. I absolutely LOVE the idea of a series of disturbing painting with a little story behind it, but it's made in a way where it becomes a big empty story with a couple of paintings.

[@domino6011]

Right? I wouldn’t be surprised if the creator made/came across the art and decided to make the story *around* the art

[@greasy_goblinoid]

@@domino6011nah the creator did actually make the art. what really bothers me about it is that he came out and said that there’s no real point to any of it it’s just shocking for the sake of being shocking.

[@topazstars7734]

That and. Y’know. The use of rape a shock value. That’s never okay.

[@TheTarman]

I think the big problem was that it felt like they were *rushing*. I don’t have a problem with any of the subject matter, but the presentation makes the subject matter more jarring and less scary than it theoretically could be with more time and build up. Since UrbanSpook is an artist, it feels like they very, very, very much wanted to show off their disturbing art (which I personally find to be well-done), and had a rudimentary story for each, and just went with those vague descriptors as the entire story, because the focus was more the art than anything

[@CodeeXD]

​@@TheTarman toe it's just really gross for no reason. Like there's nothing pointing out a killer or anything and like someone said apparently the creator has admitted it doesn't have a point or really a story. It's just gruesome and vile for the sole purpose of being gruesome and vile

[@phantomplays1109]

I absolutely adore the little tale of the prince and the critters because apart from this story it seems like its own free-standing fable, but you think about it a moment and only then do you realize the prince is them, the creatures, and we are the critters asking for their help. Mind you im not at the end of the stream right now so this could be made blatantly obvious, but i still love it.

[@electroid4]

His reaction to the Vita Carnis jumpscare was GOLDEN!! Love to see him do a video on it

[@shelbyd.1722]

Wendigoon throwing his Wendiwife to the harvester then proceeding to walk home and sing hymns and gospel while she screams sounds about right.

[@spaghettidoodle1283]

I sleep soundly at night after watching things like Vita Carnis because I know in my heart of hearts that Goku would beat all of the analog horror monsters.

[@hecavimu]

To add on to what Wendigoon was saying about horror being portrayed through children’s drawings, I think one of the most effective films to execute that was The Babadook. Like…In this supposed kids book, you have a monster that looks like the most horrific thing to ever exist. And while yes it does get revealed later on and it does kind of disappoint with how underwhelming it is, the beginning of the movie did such a fantastic job at letting the viewer’s imagination fill in the blanks as to what this thing could actually look like. Because if in a pop-up book it looked like the worst thing ever, imagine what it would REALLY look like? (and again, while it does get revealed irl later in the film and is disappointing the beginning where they show the pop-up book is still one of the most effective scares in a recent horror film for me) It’s a great film regardless.

[@PhoenixBlazer39]

It's so effective that even just something looking remotely similar like a coatrack are enough to fill you with dread, and later when its silhouette is in the door, just seeing it slightly raise its arms from its sides is enough to stick with me years later, even more so than the disappointing actual appearance itself. As crappy as it was, the Slenderman movie did something similar during a scene in a dark kitchen. You don't see him until he just turns his head, and that actually jumpscared me more than when he's out chasing with tentacles out. It had me paranoid for the rest of the movie of any light round thing over darkness. My imagination scared me more than the movie could've hoped to.

[@dorkydragon5055]

Back when I had baby brain it was The Village , basically spooki teased Skeksis costumes. Thanks Shamalongadingdong!

[@Cykotyk]

Vintage Eight's 'The Children Under the House' is another really good story told through children's drawings as well.

[@midgematic]

Just goes to show that the best horror are those who don’t reveal the monster. A person’s imagination will 100% always make it scarier than any idea actually presented. I would say the only time I was genuinely scared by a monster reveal was The Ritual’s Moder but nowadays I’m more impressed by the design than scared by it

[@gh0stkin]

@@midgematicI tend to agree- it stops being scary when the creator “shows their hand”. But, I’m also a sucker for great monster design, and The Ritual is an excellent example of that. I recommend that movie to so many people because Moder is such an awesome antagonist. On the other hand, BAD monster design can suck all the tension out of what would have otherwise been a decent movie, so it’s a difficult balance to strike.

[@DiegoAlvarezBeltran1993.]

This man had a whole war flashback when the door knocked.

[@easy8690]

I'm so glad I got to see the knocking incident live. 1:48:27

[@dakotatypo2805]

RoachDoggJr

[@indigo995]

I joined at the tail end of the knocking incident and had no idea what was going on XD

[@dtlproductions]

So glad I caught it live. It made my whole day.

[@igorlukyan206]

When I was watching this in my earphones a night, my wife tells me that someone was knocking. Bro I almost sht myself because no one was at the door

[@nuuget6996]

#wewerethere

[@damejanea.macdonald2371]

The true heroes being the people in the chat who told us to turn our volume down around 3:45:00 . Normally, I mute the chat when watching since I can't keep up with the speed, but not doing so this time saved my life. Thanks for sharing the discovery process, Wendigoon. It was really special.

[@RizoftheDead]

Holy fuck... I was really enjoying Vita Carnis already, but that mimic attack scene was fantastic! It's set up so well because up until that point we've only seen photos or drawings of the creatures, so in a weird meta way it sets your expectations of the effects going forward (like when you watch a low budget movie and therefore expect a lower level of production quality). So when I saw the fingers curling in, that was already really creepy and well done so I expected that to be it then it cut away... which just makes it all the more terrifying when the head and that fucking EYE slide into view, bravo! Edit: Well shit, I paused the video right after the scare happened to type this up then started watching again just to hear Wendigoon basically sum up the same thing 😖

[@andyghkfilm2287]

14:08 I heard something like “good effective analog horror is like looking through a keyhole, trying to figure out what’s happening” and I think about that all the time. 44:43 it’s the difference between a movie showing a person abducting a baby and the fallout of that and the investigation, and a movie having a character say “yeah, the killer spiked the baby on the ground like a football, it died instantly, I was there!” and moving on. 1:13:04 honestly, going from UrbanSpook to Vita Carnis was such a fortunate thing to happen. Look at how Wendi visibly dials into the video here. 1:23:06 look at the absolute JOY on his face as he’s roughing it trying to get to the frame of delicious lore, and then his happiness when he finds it and is bewildered by what it is! That’s what it’s all about, man! You people who taught him the frame-advance button should be ashamed! Lmfao 1:30:29 poggers teach him more workflow stuff internet freaks 1:52:06 honestly, A+. 2:06:00 lmfao dude same, the Mimic stuff is BY FAR the scariest stuff for me, but I was so in at that point. 2:24:04 HAHAHAHA 3:40:12 That’s the “atmospheric” truck lol

[@haslittle8078]

I can really appreciate the depth of the world building, the incredible art, and the effort that went into creating actual puppets for the Carne series. But the mimic scene turned my adrenaline receptors inside out

[@PhoenixBlazer39]

For me, that Portrait of God one played out differently, but still terrifying in a different way. I keep my monitor on the lowest light setting, so even when the thing was supposed to be showing up, I just continued to see a black painting. I was confused as to whether we were supposed to only know it through her reactions, but then the void scene happened, and seeing a gnarled hand come out of nowhere, attached to nothing, and a light shining from nowhere, made it step up a level in eldritch horror, as you couldn't see what was in the darkness. Rewatching it, the actual thing is certainly terrifying in its own right, but still, I find it amazing how my experience was changed completely by something unintended.

[@tommykarrick9130]

Vitas Carnis is absolutely fascinating, definitely my favorite analogue horror so far. Something in particular I love about it is that occasionally the robot voices will say lines that would in another analogue horror make you roll your eyes, but because of the format implying that whoever is making these things isn’t completely there mentally or perhaps isn’t human at all, it instead feeds into making it feel so much more real. And I was really happy to see that that wasn’t just the author finding a really cool way to hide that he isn’t good at writing dialogue, cause the acting in that live action segment was just amazing. The only moment of it that I wasn’t super into, out of all of it, was during the flavor enhancer ad, where they went a little hard on the glitches and started showing the hands reaching up and screaming in pain and all that, I was able to suspend disbelief that all of these were real broadcasts made by real people or entities even with the glitches because “idk they’re fucked up monsters they don’t know any better it was probably just a mistake” but idk how they could just slip and make something like that, unless it’s implied that it was made by a human who’s mind is also warped but who’s trying in what limited way they can to show that the flavor enhancers are bad news. Other than that one moment, it’s crazy how good it is, I can’t wait to see more of it

[@steel8231]

Apparently the mimic costume dried out and broke shortly after making the woods scene. Also the food company's logo is literally the singularity.

[@nsullivan9096]

The Kid and the Camera: That was excellent! Hard to say much more other than that. The vibes were immaculate. Urban Spook: I mostly agree with Wendi here. The painting of the victims were a neat idea and there was a great Story hidden in there, but the choice to graphically depict child death and torture in the way Urbanspook chose to is definitely a little try hard and 'edgy teens first creepypasta' to me. I don't mind child death and torture (Sexual or Otherwise) in stories if they serve a purpose, but in here it just kinda left me feeling like 'Really dude? That's your big scare?' Sexual violence especially is So Hard to write in an effective way, and I'm not sure this series did it. I'm glad they have an audience that loves their work, but it doesn't feel any more Real to me than any other analog horror. Making a Dude That Kills People the big bad instead of a Creature of some kind could work really well! But I don't feel like this killer is up to par with any of the real monsters of our time and true crime and all that so he just does not feel Real to me. "Disturbing" =/= Effective Vita Carnis: Creative and wild. The early clues and the trimmings made me think of The Dogscape. For those interested in the story book pages outside the stream, u/Geekcorn121 already compiled and transcribed them! shorturl.at/kprS5 There may be people who were faster, but theirs were the first one I saw. (still actively watching the posted stream as of this comment..) Update: Still watching Vita Carnis (at about 3.28 now) What a wild ride!

[@tam5528]

I feel like Urbanspook series could be a bit more captivating if it have more than just brutal death and painting showcase, maybe there could be an episode where we get some hint and investigation from a police or investigator perspective. Another things (this one is purely if someone like subtility ) is that the painting name could just be the victim name alone. The painter does what most painter do, let the painting speak for itself.

[@nsullivan9096]

​@@tam5528 " the painting name could just be the victim name alone" Agreed. It would be much more eerie imo because filling in the blanks yourself is often times more effective- Nothing is scarier than whatever you have in your own head ykno.

[@nsullivan9096]

​@Borelock I don't hate it or hate that it exists, I just wish it was better. No hate to people that like it either, it's just not that good In My Opinion.

[@nsullivan9096]

@Borelock Also if you think criticism of a series you like is hate, I highly recommend you stop reading critiques of things you like. You'll have a better time.

[@solidsnakescake]

I share your views on urbanspook I like it quite a bit mostly but sometimes is just really tryhard

[@HopePapernacky]

It is a fantastic sign that Wendigoon immediately got so invested in Vita Carnis that he forgot he was on stream And it was SO SATISFYING for him to find out how to go frame by frame

[@niclawton]

That air horn/Guardians of the Galaxy analogy is shockingly accurate and something I’ll think about often in my own creative endeavours

[@maximilianwalker5961]

Mimic: [angrily screams] Woman: [Terrified shout] KZbin auto translation: *[Applause] [Music]*

[@Thebatcavepetfriendlybakery]

The urbanspook thing, i think my critique would be "he found his 2 month old baby dead as well as a painting. We will not show the painting due to the nature of the image." You get the idea of how awful the killer is and the lengths he goes, how he kills anyone no matter gender or age, but you also dial it back enough where the baby isnt exploited too much. Like Kane Pixels in the Backrooms, he used missing posters of children to show that children also fell to the backrooms, but never showed kids in the backrooms or anything of the sort. Just showed the harsh reality of the world of the backrooms without being too harsh or graphic. Or Skinamarink, 2 kids in a diabolical household controlled by a demon if taken literally, you dont see the brutal acts taken out on the children, just the implications or the audio. Still awful and you get the idea but it doesnt go fully into the sick nature of that world. There is that reality of sick people in this world tormenting and killing babies, and i guess spook wanted to acknowledge that in his horror? Didnt go about it the right way if that was the case. A lot of the content judt seemed like shock value at the expense of victims with no tact or anything. Just "ooo serial killer did something even worse 🤯 heres a painting i did" no bueno. Hopefully the storytelling gets better bc this series has a ton of potential, definitely gives me the creeps! I like the series, it just feels like a rough draft, its out of order and some things could be taken out. There's a lot of talent and potential, hopefully he progresses and improves Edit: watched the last video and looked up what sildenafil is and that just makes it worse. Oof... it did, in fact, not get better... The vita carnis is one of- if not- my favorite analog horror series. Except i have bad paranoia and the mimic did not help with that, for at least a month i was on morning shift and it was dark outside every time i left for work and i had my back to the door as i locked it, my flashlight out, blood like ice in my veins as i bolted to my car and frantically checked the back seat and trunk (i have an SUV) then locked the doors and drove away constantly checking my mirrors. When i got home, i checked my furniture and rooms with my dogs behind me for comfort, battle axe in hand. Constant reminders of it being fictional were not enough. I still panic a bit about it, ive always been scared of the dark but this sent me to another level of paranoia and fear. So well done 😍

[@nirmiak9906]

I’m the same with mimicry stuff, it activates my almonds in the worst ways

[@whimsydimsy8774]

I think you'd like Greylock Tapes! They're VERY good, like, ACTUALLY scary.

[@arifoucek]

your comparisons to other horror media like Skinamarink or the Backrooms are very insightful, and you make an excellent point. i've heard the phrase "if the point can be made without a child, then you don't need to use a child", and i think that's a good overarching rule. with situations like you've brought up, the children aspect is there for a reason; to imply (but not show) tragedy, or to change the perspective of the entire story, or to portray a certain naïveté or innocence. but in stories like urbanSPOOK... like c'mon man, you don't need to show that, and you DEFINITELY don't need to involve kids in that in any way. it feels more like shock value than good horror.

[@SkyeFyre2131]

"This is how a *kid* would draw it" is a fantastic horror trope. Glad you made me aware of it Wedni!

[@Chuunchunmaru]

Father is slowly figuring out how to stream. What journey to watch.

[@angryfk]

glad this stream gave us the new version of that audio “it THAT THE GRIM REAPER?????”

[@the.one.who.doesnt.knock.]

for those who don't know why wendigoon clicked off of the horse part, slidenafil is a vasodilator commonly called viagra. from that we can make an educated guess of what happened with the horse

[@julioaugusto60]

Oh that's fucking gross, now I just noticed the painting of the woman who died from internal bleeding says Breeding Mount (I'm dislexyc, I read it as Bleeding Mouth until now). God, that series sucks so much, and that's coming from someone who was actually scared shitless at the paintings (because I'm a whimp)

[@silverstorm3729]

1:15:00 I would also add, as an amateur writer, that many stories tend to hook the audience with a intriguing question, which keeps the audience watching out of curiosity. J.J Abrahams very infamously calls this the "mystery box" approach - give the audience a box, but don't reveal what is inside it. (Of course he kinda sucks at actually paying off those mysteries but that's another can of worms) I think the second story never really did that; it just presented, "oh people were murdered" but without much in the way of mystery, no questions about "why" or how it all connects; even how it happened isn't really that mysterious. Without curiosity, or someone to root for, an audience has little to invest in. This third story (so far, first time watching) is already positing the audience with questions: what are these new creatures? What is the "living meat" institute? Who is creating this broadcast, and can they be trusted? These mysteries make for good hooks, and make you want to find out the answers.

[@spinodino2004]

8:10 - The Kid and The Camera 28:56 - UrbanSPOOK */!\ CSA Warning /!\* 1:12:17 - Vita Carnis 2:45:48 - Vita Carnis Extras 4:05:16 - Portrait of God

[@Laceylunai]

Thank you for this!! I have this stream on in the background and want to go back thru and actually watch the analogue horror with Wendi

[@theblackcatgirl7013]

You. You are awesome. Thank you SO much.

[@michellecarpenter3784]

Thank you! Even very early into UrbanSPOOK i knew i wouldn't be able to handle it (right after the 2 month old), so i wanted to know how far to skip ahead

[@angelmunoz3555]

thank you, urbanspook had mr spooked lol

[@ForTheFREEMAN]

up up up

[@springdeerling7866]

I imagine if he didn't watch this on stream that him watching vita carnis by himself would be him giggling and kicking his feet in his room. Excited over a new story!

[@reihanboo]

glad you're calling out unnecessary over-brutalisation on stories in general. just because it's fiction doesn't mean you can do _anything_ with it.

[@v0idsc0rpse12]

i mean there is a whole genre dedicated to gore and disturbing imagery, splatterpunk. sure its not for everyone but, if someone wants to write they can

[@neonwallacewells7818]

Lmao yes it does IT IS HORROR DID IT HORRIFY YOU? THEN IT HAS VALUE

[@ameliorateepoch9917]

Violence, especially against kids is a very touchy subject. There’s a difference of being horrified and scared than there is to being disturbed and disgusted. It’s not horror, it’s torture 🅱️orn for the creator. Not to mention their weird older content which has the same pedophilic themes attached to it. Disturbing does not equal scary, but it does tell you about what type of person the creator may or may not be.

[@BonnieBoestar]

Its literally fiction, its the ultimate safe way to do anything because it can't hurt you.

[@v0idsc0rpse12]

@Ameliorate Epoch some people do prefer disturbing stories over just plainly scary ones. that doesnt mean those rhat consume rhat content are disturbing people themselves.

[@BaconRage98]

I had to look it up, so for anyone else; sildenafil, specifically sildenafil citrate, is viagra. And the wife died of... Internal bleeding. I don't like being able to recognise patterns anymore.

[@akumasstorytime3910]

God I hate being sentient.

[@three_iii9198]

She got ducked by the horse⁉️

[@slimbingi1470]

that meat mimic jumpscare was shockingly effective

[@pokerfacenino]

Me, watching Wendi discover the frame keys: *holding back tears* We made it friends....... we made it.

[@MischiefTheBandit]

speaking on urban spook for a moment. brutality in horror in of itself is an artform, one that need be tastefully explored. you can't just open with baby murder, CSA and a chick dying from internal bleeding via horse. that just fundamentally doesn't work for pacing reasons, maybe sometime down the road you can explore those avenues of violence but you can't just *do it* for the sake of doing it. you gotta escalate things. you gotta ease the audience into that shit. UrbanSpook fundamentally doesn't work from a standpoint of it's pacing in violence. Also The Lighthouse just sucks lmao.

[@the_frenchiest_fry6577]

It just feels like either an edgy teenager made it or an AI wrote it and I wish I hadn't seen it

[@x0_2q54]

Yeah plus he’s reusing old art for his series so that’s why it feels so rushed, because it’s just a cheep way to get internet clout off of something he’s already made 🙃 Also he’s selling the f-toy painting as a shirt

[@htspencer9084]

Yeah the author's "voice" is very immature. It feels supremely forced and cheapens the format imo. I think the creator needs to take a break, take a good hard look at what story they're actually trying to tell. Alternatively, if this is just some kid. Fair enough, that's totally justifiable but if its a teen or older, they got a lot of work to do I think!

[@TheAbigailDee]

THANK YOU I keep being shocked that people don't think it's just too much too soon??? It's not scary because it's so goofy when the pacing is weird.

[@FylinB563]

I did not make the internal bleeding horse connection until then, holy shit I hate urban spook even more

[@E_N_B]

In regard to US, to quote another Analog Horror analysis creator on another platform: "Is it _actually_ scary, or is it just gross?" --and i feel like that sums up everything i need to say on the matter

[@chuco6010]

What’s also kind of a problem, narrative wise, for Urban Spooks is that the serial killer is poorly written due to it just killing random individuals/families and having a very inconsistent pattern. Serial killers in horror stories and even in real life, have very specific patterns when it comes to them picking their victims. One of the only times (that I can recall) where a serial killer in fiction that had a mixed up pattern was the killer in The Poughkeepsie Tapes (Don’t know how to spell it don’t judge 😭). The reason that worked very well in the story was to throw off police/feds and having them believe there was an entirely separate mass murderer. That worked within the narrative. Urban Spooks just essentially created an antagonistic and pretty much said “Lemme have him kill as many people as possible in the most disturbing and gruesome way possible 😈 “ as the foundation of his story 😭

[@distantsea]

It's strange because the most common group seemed to be cops and their families, but not often enough that it would be a real pattern. If it was a serial killer who specifically targeted the police, then there's a story already there. Cops have personal investment in getting this extremely brutal killer. It raises questions of why the killer is choosing cops, and why he's bringing the families into it. Logic is important for a story to have, even if it's never revealed to the audience.

[@velkiray]

I love having the chat replay turned on and just seeing Alex attack urbanspook the entire time Wendi is watching it lmao.

[@jackiechan3932]

The only issue with UrbanSPOOK is their general lack of care towards some of the harsher topics, specifically, Cory. The implication with the painting and the murder is that he was sexually abused, and while that’s hard to stomach, and while that narratively is not wrong, what is wrong is how UrbanSPOOK is monetizing and selling merch based on that painting and story, and when called out on that, he made multiple, very gross statements, that he then deleted on Twitter in order to hide it. He then proceeded to double down and say that he intended on making it even more shocking. Again, I have no issue with artistic expression, but monetizing a representation of CSA is just wrong, even if it’s not a real person.

[@mr.e2239]

This! Literally whenever I brought this up I was called a pussy and I just didn't get it.

[@vintageblast9232]

Have y’all seen his alt animation channel it made me so disappointed about the whole thing.

[@CHlODOS]

​@Vintage Blast no,, but tell me about it. avoiding giving this man any kind of views is preferable bc yikes.

[@soybajo-kira8585]

@@CHlODOS it’s all animations with gross out humor and weird sexual content involving… certain bodily functions

[@txtqtez2856]

@@soybajo-kira8585 he’s a fully grown man that never grew out of his edgy middle school phase

[@josiaharaki7310]

The "Hide in a locked room" bit feels an awful lot like trapping yourself...

[@wywrd_mtnt]

watching this just now and some of the advice in the second mimic video contradicts what the documentary on mimics says. I think the documentary is the correct way of approaching the creatures, at least some parts, cause as we've seen trapping yourself doesn't work out, but getting to a highly populated area might, which is what the documentary tells you to do. the government advice should 100% be disregarded I feel like

[@SerechII]

The most disturbing thing about this whole live was Wendigoon not knowing how to go frame by frame to catch the glimpses on args lmao

[@TheSlammurai]

The Backrooms and Hypnogogic Archives must have been a nightmare without frame skipping. He has my sympathy.

[@mickster965]

Wendigoon is inspiring as hell. Between the analogue horror, conspiracy theories, and the recent Cormac McCarthy deep dives, he’s just top dog. God bless you wendigoon, you deserve it 🎉

[@Windsnake1]

Analog horror is marking this generation. I love it, and absolutely would go to see a movie in the cinema if its about this genre

[@UncensoredScion]

spends nearly a minute in silence right at the start, the man trolling me thinking my audio's busted lol

[@medievalsim]

just what i thought, turned it up til he finally started making noise.

[@EugeneMStoner764]

Wendi's emotional breakdown was the best part of all of this

[@bonebrokebuddy5248]

WAIT IS THE FLAVOR ENHANCER THE SPORES?! IS THAT WHY THE DUDE COOKING IS WEARING A GAS MASK?! that’s so fun, I love that

[@bonebrokebuddy5248]

LMAO WAS RIGHT

[@tali6844]

I haven't heard "down to the river to pray" since o' brother where art thou and hearing wendi singing it when a guy is slowly walking through the woods alone got me lol

[@coletrainhetrick]

It's also used as a boss theme in wasteland 3 which was a very badass moment in the game.

[@tali6844]

@@coletrainhetrick god wasteland is goated

[@TacoLlamaYES]

All I want to add is that I LOVE practical effects. ESPECIALLY in horror. It's so much easier to be scared of something that is real. (in the physical sense, haha)

[@spy19244]

I sorta understand and agree with what wendi says about urbenspook series, I feel like adding a kid to a horror/ murder story is fine i feel like kid with a camera handled it very well making a realistic horror the horror part being the realistic that those things happen but theres a certain part in anything horror that over doing kills just take you out of it and i feel like with kids it makes it worse

[@SerechII]

Yeah, it's just edgy for shock value and nothing else, no artistry at all, not even the technical side of it gets better

[@weepo2651]

@@SerechIII think that’s what makes it realistic tho since a lot of serial killers won’t take pity on children I’ve seen to much real life crimes and just say you’re a pussy and can’t handle it that’s all same with Wendi he should just say I can’t handle it the point of the series is that to show that the killer is a demon that no one is safe from like if it’s a real life killer

[@SerechII]

​@@weepo2651 bro, you are trying way too hard to justify gratuitous edginess, if you want a portrayal of real life sick people you can watch content that's respectful of at least the watcher in it's quality and the way it hands those kind of topics, "the realistic" argument falls apart real quick to me when the whole series is: "look at this scary face! what? it's not scary? what if I told you some heinous thing happened, is it scary now?" dude's not some sort of raw artist that's putting hard stuff on the light, because there's no artistry to it, it's a creepypasta kid that wanted to get reactions so he went farther with it, it's jeffer the killerer and thus it's just the epitome of edgy and unnecesary

[@ruquista]

​@Serech you both are correct there is brutality in real life and most killers don't care about who they kill but emulating that in a video is edgey as all hell and unnecessary for sure

[@htspencer9084]

🎉 UrbanSPOOK is cringe 🎉

[@dahmerung]

That first video about the boy and his camera was really creative and neatly packaged. I loved that the change in art style of the story adds to the story. Wendigoon making a prediction at 10:41 and then him being proven right at 19:45.

[@nhooj8882]

We are barely into the first video and Wendi has already terrified me more than probably the rest of the stream will with the newfound perspective that it's not necessarily what we're seeing that's scary, but rather *these horrors exist beyond our comprehension.* Thanks, I didn't need to sleep tonight anyway.

[@ProblematicHag]

i like how the first series was so bad he had to stop and the one after is so good he got so scared that he called his dog in

[@daydreams4232]

Between the first horror and Vita Carnis, I'm very quite in love with this resurgence of practical effects (or at least it looks like practical effects) in analogue horror