WATCHING THE SHINING (1980) FOR THE FIRST TIME!! MOVIE REACTION

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TimotheeReacts

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@baxattax6653
@baxattax6653 3 жыл бұрын
no need to feel bad about Redrum. It was actually awesome seeing someone realize it for the first time!
@berkeo.3772
@berkeo.3772 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so late but I just wanted to acknowledge your profile photo 🤘🏽
@mistybloo52
@mistybloo52 3 жыл бұрын
Another little fact about the filming, Danny didn't know he was in a suspense horror film. Kubrick took a lot of care to make sure he knew as little of the plot as possible and he didn't get to see the final cut until about a decade later.
@chiasanzes9770
@chiasanzes9770 Жыл бұрын
I do not believe that.
@JuanVillalobos
@JuanVillalobos 3 жыл бұрын
“The child is still screwed up” is basically the plot of the sequel “Doctor Sleep” lol
@fynnthefox9078
@fynnthefox9078 3 жыл бұрын
A good sequel btw.
@jonathancruz5932
@jonathancruz5932 3 жыл бұрын
11:36 I bet the audience from 1980 get haunted for watching the creepy twins in their nightmare. 25:39 I also bet the audience cannot understand the word "Redrum" means. Until his mother looked at the reflection of the mirror. It says "Murder." That's surprising unexpected.
@jamesparker1127
@jamesparker1127 2 жыл бұрын
23:46 The Guinness World Record holder for the most takes of a single movie scene with dialogue with 127 takes.
@laitsu8852
@laitsu8852 3 жыл бұрын
Jack Nicholson performed the greatest acting in the history of acting
@jdogjohnson9038
@jdogjohnson9038 3 жыл бұрын
Great performance before the end you think he's really crazy!!!
@remplidefeux
@remplidefeux 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, when the boss said that isolation can be a problem... that hit different. :'(
@konstantinosmichos5749
@konstantinosmichos5749 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most memorable scenes from The Shining is the blood coming out from the elevator. This is one of the scenes that are unique to the film (along with the Grady twins) and one that has received a number of interpretations. As mentioned above, Kubrick left many details open to interpretation, whether for viewers to come up with their own explanations or just to mess with them. The elevator blood scene (or “river of blood”, as some call it) first appears as a vision to Danny, and materializes near the end of the film, when Wendy is looking for Danny. Because the Overlook Hotel (in the film, at least) was built on an Indian burial ground, the blood coming out from the elevator has been interpreted as that of the Indians buried there. Others believe it’s the blood of all the lives claimed by the forces of the hotel, which might be the most convincing explanation. Perhaps the most analyzed part of the ending is the final shot of a photograph from 1921 that shows Jack with other guests in the hotel’s ballroom. Like with the rest, this scene has been interpreted in many ways, and one of the most popular explanations says that it represents the hotel “absorbing” Jack’s soul. Although this fits the haunting vibe of the film, Kubrick himself explained that the photo actually suggests that Jack was a reincarnation of an earlier official at the hotel, which makes sense when going back to his conversation with Grady in the bathroom, where the butler tells Jack that he has “always been the caretaker”. It also fits with the role of both Grady characters mentioned in the film: the past caretaker and the ghost. The ghost is Delbert Grady, and the past caretaker was Charles Grady. The latter is the one that Jack says he saw in the newspaper (and the one who killed his family in the hotel), and thus the reincarnation of Delbert Grady. Kubrick failed in adapting Stephen King’s novel, but he succeeded in making a film full of metaphors and symbolism that have made way for countless interpretations on its true meaning. Of course, there are some more convincing (and coherent) than others, but The Shining is, at its core, a story about violence and abuse and how these are often cyclical. Jack had a history of anger issues and violence, mainly against his family. When Wendy finds Danny after he enters room 237, he’s in shock and physically injured, and Wendy immediately blames Jack for it as he has hurt their son before. Jack is a recovering alcoholic, and relapses at the hotel. He might have had his anger under control for a while before taking the job, but he went back to it there. The hotel itself also has a history of cyclical violence: it was built over an Indian burial ground, and a lot of blood was surely spilled in the process. Charles Grady killed his family with an axe, and Jack was on track to replicate that. The abuse part of the story is both physical and psychological: both Wendy and Danny are clearly scared of Jack, even before the hotel’s influence took control of him, and yet they stayed with him. A popular theory, and one that has gone very deep into the symbolism of The Shining, says that the film also addresses sexual abuse. The scene with the man in the dog costume and the man in a tuxedo is the one used to support this theory, which says the dog represents Danny (who earlier in the film is shown to have a plush toy) and the man in the tuxedo represents Jack. Tony, Danny’s imaginary friend, is believed by some to be Danny’s way to cope with the trauma of sexual abuse from his father.
@bernhl
@bernhl 3 жыл бұрын
agreed!
@Gandalf_the_Gay
@Gandalf_the_Gay 3 жыл бұрын
Good explanation. However, even though the hotel was built on a Native American bureil ground, (the real Stanley Hotel in Estes Park Colorado is actually as well) doesn't mean that's the ONLY reason why it's haunted. One other reason could be because of the previous people who were killed their. There spirits are trapped (meaning cannot go to heaven or hell). This leads to the reason of seeing poltergeists, & demon/satanic activity.
@brandonhendrix7223
@brandonhendrix7223 3 жыл бұрын
Problem is the dog man and the tuxedo man are in King's book. And he explains exactly their relationship. It's simply a reference to that. In fact, there are many little reference to King's book scatteted throughout the movie. If people want to interpret it that way, have at it but it a BIG stretch.
@MiyuMedia
@MiyuMedia 3 жыл бұрын
The Overlook Hotel itself, is haunted. The people that Jack (and Danny) sees, and the ones who let him scape from the pantry, are ghosts of the souls taken by the hotel: The spirits that live inside and "serve" the place. "Tony" is the ability to shine that Danny has, but the kid doesn't really understand it as an ability or a gift, so he calls it "the boy who lives in my mouth" and his mother thinks is just "an imaginary friend", but it is actually his own power "talking" and "showing" things to himself. The people who "shines" can connect with each other, that's why Danny and the cook send each other "visions" and can "talk" telepathically. There are two theories to explain the photo of Jack at the end: 1. He is actually a reincarnation of a caretaker from the past and 2: The hotel took his soul and now he is part of the same group of ghosts that serve and inhabit the hotel.
@piratetv1
@piratetv1 3 жыл бұрын
It's also possible jack has Telekinesis and let himself out once he focused his mind, Danny develops it as well later
@paulstewart11
@paulstewart11 2 жыл бұрын
At 13:01 when you asked "where does he (Danny) get that from," he got it from his dad saying "for ever, and ever...and ever" the same way the twins just said "come play with us...for ever, and ever...and ever." Hence, his next question "you would never hurt mommy or me, would you?"
@timothyleetch5403
@timothyleetch5403 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the famous 1000 mile stare by Jack Nicholson (head slightly bowed, eyes slightly looking up at camera) is used in many Stanley Kubrick movies (i.e. Vincent D’Onofrio in Full Metal Jacket; also worth reacting to).
@BlackavarWD
@BlackavarWD 3 жыл бұрын
"All work and no play makes Homer something something." "Go crazy?" "DON'T MIND IF I DO!" 😅
@kylemiller5148
@kylemiller5148 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what it is about the entire hotel but something about it seems otherworldly and supernatural, seriously though the energy,like Jack,changes from being a seemingly normal and decent hotel to slowly becoming more sinister and weird
@herbyragan7801
@herbyragan7801 3 жыл бұрын
You might also want to check out the sequel “Doctor Sleep” (If you can find The Director’s Cut, it’s worth it). Such a wonderful surprise, really very good.
@bernhl
@bernhl 3 жыл бұрын
seconded!
@sevaschurev2986
@sevaschurev2986 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! :) I watched the theatrical cut like 5 times already, it's gorgeous!
@jennyjenny1493
@jennyjenny1493 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, please react to Dr. Sleep!
@johnj4471
@johnj4471 3 жыл бұрын
I had Doctor Sleep spoiled in a sense because I watched one of those Ending Explained videos but the channel that shows the whole thing and sort of wish I watched it. The only thing is honestly I feel like the female villain is just really cringey. Everything else was decent. I feel like saying decent is marred by my dislike of her portrayal. It's kind of like how I like the Johnny Depp Dark Shadows movie, but all I ever think of is the part when the daughter fights the villain and it's like they were trying too hard to be cool and left a bad taste in my mouth. I really think it's maybe just her hat which oddly is a part of the character that really just seems offputting. I love the casting for Danny and Abra.
@SkeederBC
@SkeederBC 3 жыл бұрын
Yep Dr Sleep is a really well done bookend to the story.
@davidn5269
@davidn5269 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing an interview with Jack Nicholson where he talked about working with Kubrick on this movie. It’s worth knowing that Nicholson was on an incredible run going into this movie, with six Oscar nominations in the 1970’s and two best actor wins, so he was widely regarded as one of the greatest living actors. He said about working on this movie that he had always aimed for the real with his acting, where Kubrick challenged this as an end goal for filmmaking and acting, drawing a distinction between being real and being interesting, and asserting that when the two are incompatible one should aim for being interesting rather than being real. Nicholson spoke of this as if it altered his outlook and philosophy going forward, and if you are familiar with his career you can see the change and carve his career into two halves: pre-Shining and post-Shining. Nicholson collected some more awards and made a lot more movies, but if you like a certain kind of movie and a certain kind of acting you might think that working with Kubrick ruined Jack Nicholson as an actor. But even if you find Nicholson’s post-Shining work to be cartoonish and over the top (it can be but I still like a lot of his later performances) his presence in this movie is undeniable. The scene where Wendy confronts Jack with a baseball bat is my favorite. Shelley Duvall is so raw and intense and sincere, and Nicholson is crackling with energy as he menaces her, his manic rage mixed with mock-loving, gaslighting words that finally give way to murderous threats, it gives me chills every time. The way that the camera moves while Jack stalks Wendy up those stairs like a predator as she backpedals and sobs is transcendent filmmaking, Kubrick’s genius clearly at work in the cinematography and blocking and editing and the performances he wrings from his actors. This isn’t a perfect movie and I’m sympathetic to some criticisms of it and of Kubrick in general, but the things that are distinct and memorable about this movie are not ingrained in our cultural iconography for no reason. Nicholson synchronizes perfectly with the ambiguity of the script, and the viewer is often left wondering whether the evil they see is of the hotel or if it is Danny’s trauma and Jack’s anger and abusiveness and darkness that he brought with him. The Shining keenly understands that what makes horror work is when ghosts and demons are reflections or representations of the characters’ (or our own) inner hauntings and fears, and few horror movies deal so viscerally and affectingly with abuse and addiction and trauma in a family setting. Wow, what a movie. I could keep going, but I’m going to cut myself off now.
@Aymungoos
@Aymungoos 3 жыл бұрын
Tony is Danny's future self warning him about what would happen
@thetoothbrushfromnisemonog8340
@thetoothbrushfromnisemonog8340 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a cool theory.
@Aymungoos
@Aymungoos 3 жыл бұрын
@@thetoothbrushfromnisemonog8340 its actually not a theory. I think it's in either the shining or the dr sleep book
@brandonhendrix7223
@brandonhendrix7223 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aymungoos it's in novel The Shining. It's revealed towards the end that Anthony is Danny's middle name and Tony (which is of course short for Anthony) is his future self/other half
@jamesparker1127
@jamesparker1127 2 жыл бұрын
12:00 Danny Lloyd who played Danny Torrance was fiercely protected by Stanley Kubrick who would shelter him from anything that possibly would scare him. Because of this, Lloyd had no idea he was working on a horror film until he was about 15 when he saw the movie for the first time.
@ineffablemars
@ineffablemars 3 жыл бұрын
I think Jack has the shining ability just like Danny. But he’s an example of how it can go wrong.
@piratetv1
@piratetv1 3 жыл бұрын
He does. The spirits want his energy as much as Danny's.
@jenniferri7735
@jenniferri7735 3 жыл бұрын
there is SO. MUCH. LORE. around this movie. whole documentaries made about the various forms of symbolism, the making of the film, just everything. it’s completely fascinating.
@yishujia186
@yishujia186 3 жыл бұрын
There was just one timeline in this story. Those were ghosts talking to Jack. Not his imagination. The hotel possessed him to kill his family. Danny was creepy because he's got the talent called the Shining. He could listen to other people's thought. He could see through their eyes. He could also feel their fear.
@Raine-97
@Raine-97 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed Jack asks Danny if he would like to stay there forever (just like the twins) and when he says this, Danny looks at him with a concerned look and asks him, “you wouldn’t ever hurt mommy and me, right?” I assumed that he was possibly reading his mind of what Jack wanted to do to him and his mother, or he was seeing it. Pretty insane.
@lostintechnicolor
@lostintechnicolor 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting piece of trivia... Stanley Kubrick’s secretary spent weeks typing out all of those pages of “All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy”. She also had to type dozens and dozens of pages of the phrase in different languages for the international release.
@garylee3685
@garylee3685 3 жыл бұрын
The kid is an adult in the sequel, Dr. Sleep.
@Pingkonk
@Pingkonk 3 жыл бұрын
The director, Stanley Kubrick, was one of a kind. He was famous for being a perfectionist and redoing shots like 50 times until it was as he wanted. Nothing you see in his films is there by accident.
@zacharylewis2802
@zacharylewis2802 2 жыл бұрын
According to legend, the shot of Wendy and Jack walking up the stairs while she’s swinging the bat took 127 takes. The scene where Dick Hallorann is being summoned took 80 takes. He’d never tell the actors what he wanted, he just kept doing takes until he was satisfied.
@nickmanzo8459
@nickmanzo8459 3 жыл бұрын
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy is a very old saying essentially meaning that everyone needs a vacation or some fun at some point. Basically in this context, it can be said that Jack Torrance is divorced from reality in the extreme because instead of working as he’s supposed to have been, he’s been typing that he needs to not work in a compulsively insane manner.
@ericcolacino1825
@ericcolacino1825 3 жыл бұрын
I like how you try to rationalize with Jack when he starts going off on Wendy lol
@dalee72
@dalee72 3 жыл бұрын
Tony is not only Danny's imaginary friend but it's also his psychic ability or his "shining" ability.
@andresmendez6870
@andresmendez6870 3 жыл бұрын
The Shining is one of those movies where I felt the need to hug the protagonist and tell her everything was going to be ok :')
@ChristinaPlaysAs
@ChristinaPlaysAs 3 жыл бұрын
They recently made a sequel called Dr Sleep. It’s about Danny all grown up. I would recommend giving this a watch BUT ONLY the directors cut.
@NoelleMar
@NoelleMar 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this reaction for Halloween! Lol. Your expressions were definitely relatable. XD
@Pingkonk
@Pingkonk 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best scary movies and just movies in general, ever!
@barefootanimist
@barefootanimist 3 жыл бұрын
And, yet, King didn't like it, but wrote the sequel including details from it...
@Pingkonk
@Pingkonk 3 жыл бұрын
@@barefootanimist I haven’t read Dr Sleep, but I’ve seen the movie. The movie is very much connected to this movie and I heard King was ok with it. But did he really write Dr Sleep with this movie in mind? I thought he wrote Dr Sleep as a straight up sequel to the book The Shining, but the Dr Sleep movie kind of mixes the world of both. Anyway Kings own tv-version of this was TERRIBLE.
@flibber123
@flibber123 3 жыл бұрын
Hallorann talks to Danny about the shining. My view on what happened is based on what he said. I don't believe that Kubrick would put that conversation in the movie, taking up all that time, if it was all a lie. This means the hotel 'shines' in that it can manifest traces of things that have happened there. These traces are essentially ghosts. People who shine, like Hallorann and Danny, can see these ghosts. Danny has a very, very powerful shining ability and we know this because he uses it to call for help even though Hallorann is far away(a plane trip away). Even when Hallorann is in the hotel at the end he can't detect Danny or even sense what is wrong, that's how we know his ability isn't that powerful. Danny's power is so great that the hotel can use it and have the ghosts appear even in front of Jack and Wendy. That's why the hotel wants Danny, to take his power for its own use. Jack dies there which is why he's in the photo, he's now a ghost there. In theory, if Danny went back to that hotel he would be able to see his dad as a ghost. Now think back on the movie, or watch it again, with my version of what's going on in mind. I think a lot of your questions will then be answered. For instance, Grady(aka the hotel) let Jack out. Jack WAS locked in and neither Wendy nor Danny let him out. No one is imagining anything, that hotel is haunted and Danny's power is what allows the ghosts to do what they do.
@kimwatchesstuff
@kimwatchesstuff 3 жыл бұрын
There's a great video that came out last year I think says something like 5 ways that Jack could have escaped the pantry. A lot of insight in that one.
@americanfreedomlogistics9984
@americanfreedomlogistics9984 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of elements add suspense... The eerie carpet pattern. The sound of Jack’s typing The sound of Danny’s trike going from carpet to hardwood.
@bearsfliter
@bearsfliter 3 жыл бұрын
idk if someones already talked about this or if u already know but shelley duvall (wendy) was actually mentally tormented by the director of this movie the whole time they were filming. the baseball bat scene was shot 127 times (she was genuinely crying in the final take), the door scene was shot for 3 days, and the director only ever negatively criticized her and made the rest of the crew ignore her. there's a lot more that u can read about it but basically this director really fucked up her mental health and she hasn't done any big roles since which is really unfortunate since she was just becoming a well known actress when she took this role.
@MidnytBliss2011
@MidnytBliss2011 3 жыл бұрын
that was so nice tim. it was like you're also involved in the scene and the movie really got you. i hope you were able to go to bed after watching it ❤️😘😘
@barefootanimist
@barefootanimist 3 жыл бұрын
I recommend you see "Easy Rider" and "The Witches of Eastwick." Jack Nicholson is in both. Also, if you watch this film with the idea that there are two parallel stories being told, it makes a bit more sense... The story where Jack is wearing the burgundy jacket has been suggested to be the story the real-world Jack is writing...
@IsmaelSilva7
@IsmaelSilva7 3 жыл бұрын
Great reaction bro! After that "holy shit" (22:44) everything gets so intense non stop lol. Hopefully you react to "Dr. Sleep" and also, there's an Spielberg movie called "Ready Player One" that has an awesome homage to The Shining.
@filegrabber1
@filegrabber1 3 жыл бұрын
Stanley Kubrick was a genious. He made 1 horror movie and he nailed it. Best movie director of all time if you ask me.
@superstrigoi
@superstrigoi 3 жыл бұрын
Stephen King hates this adaptation of his book.
@filegrabber1
@filegrabber1 3 жыл бұрын
@@superstrigoi Sure, but that has nothing to do with the greatness of the movie.
@fynnthefox9078
@fynnthefox9078 3 жыл бұрын
@@superstrigoi Honestly, I love both. This and Stephen King's miniseries. Both are great in their own ways.
@robertfrancis9877
@robertfrancis9877 3 жыл бұрын
The actors in this role also got quite unstable. The woman was treated harshly to get her reaction almost to the exact and there's a creepy video of Jack Nicholson hiping himself up before the: Here's Johnny! *Either way this movie brought me chills and I love it!!*
@johnmoore2910
@johnmoore2910 3 жыл бұрын
You have so many questions and you will always have so many questions. That’s one of the great things about this movie
@JCG52577
@JCG52577 3 жыл бұрын
Danny and Hallorann are both psychic (The Shine) and I believe that Jack is also. The hotel is full of ghosts.
@fynnthefox9078
@fynnthefox9078 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno about Jack having the shine. I feel like the hotel is affecting him because they want him to kill his family, just like what they did to Charles Grady.
@randomlibra
@randomlibra 3 жыл бұрын
NOT a spoiler because it isn't mentioned in the movies, but... The sons name is Daniel Anthony Torrence. AKA Danny, or Doc. His friend that lives in his mouth is named "Tony", which is a short form of Anthony, Danny's middle name. Tony is supposed to be Danny sending himself warning messages from the future. Adds another spin to the tale :)
@BlackavarWD
@BlackavarWD 3 жыл бұрын
It's in the remake.
@Alix777.
@Alix777. 3 жыл бұрын
The "weird music" you talked about is "Music for strings, percussion and celesta" composed in 1936 by Bela Bartok.
@viniciusroesler6967
@viniciusroesler6967 3 жыл бұрын
Now you watched The Shining I recommend you to watch Ready Player One. There's an amazing scene that makes reference to The Shining.
@deboranascimento3496
@deboranascimento3496 3 жыл бұрын
Up
@deboranascimento3496
@deboranascimento3496 3 жыл бұрын
Up
@thecatmangaming5503
@thecatmangaming5503 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad you enjoyed this! The unanswered questions are what makes it so haunting and memorable in my opinion haha You could tell you were very invested... was a lot of fun to watch it viscerally for the first time again with you! Also, um... really wonder who is gonna be view #237 lol
@nolllicnt7405
@nolllicnt7405 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is like a month old but, nice video. Stanly Kubrick is easily the greatest director in history, absolute genius (he literally had an IQ of 200, you can look it up.) If you love films, pretty much every one of his films are absolute masterpieces.
@auntvesuvi3872
@auntvesuvi3872 3 жыл бұрын
You might also enjoy the documentary ROOM 237 (2012), which I got to see in an advanced screening in 2011 here in Chicago. It goes into deep speculation on director Stanley Kubrick's brilliant use of symbols... adding additional meaning to Stephen King's original tale.
@80Jay71
@80Jay71 3 жыл бұрын
A movieanalyzer named Rob Ager has a whole bunch of videos where he analyzes this in depth. His channel is called "Collative Learning"
@jdemon2007
@jdemon2007 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely check out The Mist which is another film based on a Stephen King book. Fun fact: The film changed the ending of the film compared to how it was in the book. Stephen King has actually commented saying that he wishes he had written the ending that way. He was disappointed with the ending he put in the book.
@johncassles7481
@johncassles7481 3 жыл бұрын
The Things that Jack is seeing in this hotel are not his imagination. The hotel is totally haunted and possessed by the spirits there. They are interacting with him.
@piratetv1
@piratetv1 3 жыл бұрын
Tony is Danny's ESP. a 5 year old sees him as an imaginary friend, really he can see the future and sense others thoughts. Jack has it too but uses alcohol to silence it
@jeremyevans9521
@jeremyevans9521 3 жыл бұрын
Some other really good Stephen King based films are: Carrie, The Mist, Misery, and Stand By Me.
@labelle4497
@labelle4497 3 жыл бұрын
If you watch Carrie, make sure it's the 1976 and not the remakes.
@maineman9447
@maineman9447 3 жыл бұрын
Dolores Claiborne is also a great flick. Kathy Bates (Misery) is fantastic in this film also.
@smithfan22
@smithfan22 3 жыл бұрын
The Green Mile and The Shawshank Redemption.
@kingscorpion7346
@kingscorpion7346 3 жыл бұрын
the kid is clairvoyant, so, he sees things from a 6th sense. oh! The 6th Sense is also a good one if you haven't seen it yet.
@randomreviews4278
@randomreviews4278 3 жыл бұрын
can't believe you never seen the shinning one of the best horror movies ever
@thatonesaltypickle4158
@thatonesaltypickle4158 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the only horror movies that gets me scared Also the director was really mean especially to Shelly Duval the mom I think cause he wanted a really out there performance
@tfpp1
@tfpp1 3 жыл бұрын
Same. This one and The Mothman Prophecies send chills down my whole body.
@thatonesaltypickle4158
@thatonesaltypickle4158 3 жыл бұрын
@@tfpp1 yeah I kinda get freaked out by scream 4 because it has sooooo much gore
@westcoast7429
@westcoast7429 3 жыл бұрын
@@tfpp1 i know the truth about mothman. great story.
@fynnthefox9078
@fynnthefox9078 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely. It's a great inspiration for horror.
@jadeandjesse5908
@jadeandjesse5908 3 жыл бұрын
The ghosts and their imaginations have a lot of overlap, because like Hallorann said: The Overlook Hotel itself shines, and holds everything that happened in it there. The woman in the bathtub isn't the Grady mother in the book, but the movie doesn't say. Only people with the Shining can see and interact with spirits, as well as have telepathy and visions of the future. Its not clarified if Tony is another psychic or just Danny's childlike way of coping with the Shining in this film, though it is clarified in the sequel. Halloran says the spirits are just visions and can't hurt anyone, but what goes so wrong here is not only the isolation and Jack's already bad past, but Jack also has the Shining. I believe that it is signified by the music whenever Danny is Shining (when he's talking to Tony or when he sees the two girls on closing day, or when he contacts Halloran) and when Jack is Shining (during his iconic Kubrickian stare, which it's implied he's sitting and doing for months straight). The longer they are in hotel, Danny and Jack are both feeding into the Overlook's Shine, making it stronger and making it more real. This leads to the core difference from the novel: Jack Torrance is a genuine man who struggles and is poisoned by addiction in the novel. Jack and Wendy Torrance are unaware of their ability to Shine because it is quite weak between the two of them. (BTW: the movie never implies at any point that Wendy also has the Shining, but she does). The Shining is an ability that rarely manifests itself: most people have it but it's déja-vu, intuition, and dreams. People like Danny and Halloran who can actually use the ability at will are rare. Danny's visions and messages from Tony prove to be prophetic as Tony predicts the murder of Halloran and gives Wendy the knife that saves her in time, and ultimately saves Danny. Tony was protecting him, protecting Wendy only for that goal. Jack doesn't see spirits, but the déja vu he experiences at the hotel isn't because he's a reincarnation but because he and the hotel both Shine, and they're having quiet psychic intercourse without his knowledge. When he quotes the "forever and ever" line in the film it's to show that the hotel is influencing him and it is not entirely him. The film makes Jack a dark and troubled man who already resents his family and his life, and as the hotel and him feed each other while he's writing his nonsense book, his son is powering up the hotel by interacting with the ghosts. In the book, Jack goes very slowly and gradually crazy but redeems himself by the end because he loves his family. Movie Jack just needed a little bit of alcohol (gifted to him by the hotel by his very desire for it) and little coercion to make him act on what he likely already knew he wanted to do, either because he is evil or because his intuition felt it via the Shining. Jack mentions he saw Gradys picture in the paper: this could mean Jack either already knew the Grady story and was guided by his latent desire to harm his family and it's why he took the job in the first place, or it is a left over from the newspaper archive Jack is reading about the Overlook to inspire his book. That newspaper archive is visible in the scene Jack yells at Wendy about bothering him while he's writing. As for why the bathtub woman could strangle Danny and leave bruises, even though Halloran said the ghosts couldn't hurt people: The ghosts go from appearing in the characters imaginations to becoming real, shown when Wendy actually sees the ghosts herself and Grady unlocks the door for Jack. The ghosts are able to do this from constantly taking power from Jack and Danny and the family's turmoil. It's a domestic horror drama elevated by ghosts and psychic powers. I don't think it strays as far from the boom as people say, Kubrick chose the book for a reason. Obviously because he found the story intriguing, but Kubricks filmography is almost entirely cold and dark in contrast to King's appeal to love and warmth. The story is called The Shining and the dialogue between Halloran and Danny is like the longest exposition scene ever. The power of the Shining is the backbone of the story, but Kubrick leans into the psychological to show the supernatural, as seeing ghosts is a psychic power, and because he likes ambiguity and grounding the story in a more believable reality. Whereas the book has visions of hoses with teeth, topiary animals that come alive, and telekinesis caused by the Shining. Kubrick's approach was beneficial for the execution of the story on film, where King's visceral writing is usually enough to make anything seem creepy and stands on its own, it often hurts the horror films made of his books that try to put the imagery on screen. King's distaste for this film mostly stems from Jack Torrance being a self insert for himself, a real life alcoholic at the time with a child who wanted to be good for his family. Seeing the character shown as a heartless monster and the family utterly broken the whole time, with Wendy being a mistreated and emotionally abused waif instead of a headstrong mother who wasn't unwilling to leave, fight, and/or kill her husband in defense of her son, but trapped by the winter snow. It upset King and he felt it missed the point of his novel which mostly was about the history of the hotel and Jack's genuine struggle with addiction.
@adorkability
@adorkability 3 жыл бұрын
Director Stanley Kubrik pretty much psychologically tortured Shelley Duvall to get that performance out of her.
@westcoast7429
@westcoast7429 3 жыл бұрын
worth
@ineffablemars
@ineffablemars 3 жыл бұрын
west coast no, it isn’t worth it. She currently suffer from schizophrenia as a result.
@westcoast7429
@westcoast7429 3 жыл бұрын
@@ineffablemars that's a wild allegation. doubt
@ineffablemars
@ineffablemars 3 жыл бұрын
@@westcoast7429 it's actually been well documented. apnews.com/article/e56da412f3a04129a96987a66f11ceca kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIq4ZqdsZ5WYlcU&ab_channel=InsideEdition www.thevintagenews.com/2017/11/07/dont-sympathize-with-shelley-stanley-kubrick-showed-no-mercy-to-shelley-duvall-on-the-the-shining-2/
@westcoast7429
@westcoast7429 3 жыл бұрын
@@ineffablemars You did not just cite the AP 😂 All I see is people calling her crazy and blaming it on Kubrick. I don't see her accusing Kubrick of anything. And if she is experiencing conflicting realities, it seems like a stretch to trace it back to being yelled at on a movie set half a century ago. People have gone through much worse and kept their minds. You aren't doing her any favours by calling her crazy. You're just looking for an excuse to hate.
@Greenwood4727
@Greenwood4727 3 жыл бұрын
this is one of those movies that you watch several times.. like the carpet the ball rolling along, but the carpet changes and knowing Kubrick that was done on purpose, so many little things all adding to a uncomfortable thing, plus when jack says stay here for ever and ever is echoing what the girls said.. the house is tempting jack who has the shining but refuses to accept its real, then the hotel is tempting jack with alcohol, and lloyd, then the woman in the bathtub.. until he becomes one with the house, he gave himself to the house (one interpretation this film provokes a lot of discussion)the hotel needs souls, the more people with the shine the more power it has.. and since jack has the shining (i felt as if i have been here before),
@__seeker__
@__seeker__ Жыл бұрын
19:19 I’m convinced the faceless woman who bumps into Grady is significant somehow. She walks like a man. I’m not saying the actor is a male, necessarily. But maybe it is. It’s just such an awkward gait for a woman - like a man unfamiliar with how to move in woman’s clothing/shoes. Or perhaps she’s the young woman in the bathtub. It’s just so weird how she keeps walking and never turns around to apologize or acknowledge her mistake. Like she did it on purpose so Grady and Jack would talk to each other.
@nathanielmorgan9108
@nathanielmorgan9108 3 жыл бұрын
Stanley Kubrik went to great lengths to keep the actor of Danny from knowing it was a horror movie so that he wouldn't get scarred for life
@fynnthefox9078
@fynnthefox9078 3 жыл бұрын
When Wendy is holding Danny when she blames Jack for the bruises, she was actually holding a dummy in that shot.
@enriquevivar8636
@enriquevivar8636 3 жыл бұрын
One of the Most iconic horror movie love this one love your channel
@tomyoung9049
@tomyoung9049 3 жыл бұрын
lot of theories around this movie. Jack ended up the picture because the hotel had claimed him,, that's why Grady said he had 'always' been the caretaker. The final sequence shows the hotel spirits or energy coming fully awake. All sort of coming out to play.
@jeffreybetancourt86
@jeffreybetancourt86 3 жыл бұрын
Are you planning on watching the sequel Doctor Sleep?
@1138gabe
@1138gabe 3 жыл бұрын
There are many videos that analyzes this movie from scene to scene, do some research and you will find many neat concepts/reveals/secrets!
@Sharpshooter-zr9bf
@Sharpshooter-zr9bf 3 жыл бұрын
Great reaction man! Another movie you should check out by the same director is "A Clockwork Orange". It's a very disturbing film but it is really well-paced and super interesting throughout :)
@ericcolacino1825
@ericcolacino1825 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t let the linear progression of the scenes confuse you. I still stand by the theory that Danny was abused by Jack before and during their stay. When he walks into the lounge where Jack is typing I believe Jack beat him.
@auntvesuvi3872
@auntvesuvi3872 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Timothee! 👻 I love this one... and I hope you eventually react to the recent sequel, DOCTOR SLEEP (2019), which was very enjoyable, too. And young 'Obi-Wan Kenobi' himself, Ewan McGregor, portrays grown-up 'Danny Torrance' in it.
@vicegamer6944
@vicegamer6944 2 жыл бұрын
You did give me a great idea on watching this in VR. I’ve had a dream of this once with the bar scene and it was too weird.
@sprayarm
@sprayarm 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this brother!
@sigridmflclfmd1662
@sigridmflclfmd1662 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched it today. It is currently midnight where i am right now (for some reason i always wanna watch horror movies really late. Not sure why...) I really liked it and for some reason i found Jack extremely funny😂 Also wtf i watched it on HBO Max and apparently the description for it (where i am) is "a modern horror masterpiece" apparently a 40 year old movie is modern😂
@yungchildsupport3403
@yungchildsupport3403 3 жыл бұрын
Literally my all time favourite movie, watched it too many times to count
@oscarschmitt6048
@oscarschmitt6048 Жыл бұрын
#jacknicholson #horror #stephenking #theshining #warnerbros
@damiandorhoff719
@damiandorhoff719 3 жыл бұрын
Another great Performance of Jack Nicholson can be seen in "One flew over the Coockoo´s Nest" Check out Event Horizon as well. It is like a Mix of the Shining and Hellraiser in Space.
@eZTarg8mk2
@eZTarg8mk2 2 жыл бұрын
who opened the door? there's a tony the tiger watching the door from the kitchen table. Kubrick keeps it in frame several times in that scene XD if you follow the idea that nothing supernatural is happening, that explains that as Danny/Tony is unaccounted for at that time (also there's a second door to that store room, behind the shelves that gets shown from the outside as not having that dual lock, you can see it in shadow as Jack is talking to wendy) Jack doesn't say anything threatening during that bit where he thinks he's talking to Delbert Grady, he's very polite and apologetic, so whoever was on the other side of the door might have thought he was no longer dangerous and unlocked it. If you take Jack as having been a long time abuser (which his dialogue implies with it's contradictions to previously established info), his supposed extreme reaction is actually a lot less from nowhere. He's regularly treated Wendy the way he does when she interrupts his writing, we just saw him being "nice" when in front of his bosses. He only flips out completely when his abuse is about to be exposed, by Danny being taken to a doctor. If you do rewatch this, keep an eye out for who is shown next to bears, and it might explain the weird vision wendy has of the furry. This also ties in to what you see inside room237 (if nothing supernatural is happening, we are seeing that characters fears or fantasies manifesting as a kind of lucid dream... it's jacks vision, and every image is what is on Jacks mind, not Danny and Halloran shining.. The film reinforces this idea of it's in his mind with things like the conversation in the red washroom physically takes place in the same spot Jack was sitting in at the bar (you can map it out). That conversation takes on a much darker implication too as to what talent Danny has and why Jack is suspicious of Halloran...hallorans innocent of the suspicion, it's meant to be a guilty person projecting their guilt on to someone else ). The elevator of blood was deliberately made to look similar to a screaming mouth with eyes above, and Danny's face is shown several times screaming over it as if the 2 should be seen as the same thing. (it's the only shared vision that any character has, and wendy's happen when she has a realisation about how bad things have got, and what she had been ignoring). There's a ton of allegorical references to uncover too, societies crimes that got overlooked or ignored...Kubrick had fun with putting this together XD Not to say it's wrong to see the story as supernatural, just kubrick layered it with enough contextual pointers to allow for both to be true, with some very dark implications to one
@jacobdehaan4114
@jacobdehaan4114 2 жыл бұрын
I love Jack Nicholson's performance in this! I know Stephen King didn't like his casting, but without him, I don't think I would've been interested in seeing this movie
@anothermonday5664
@anothermonday5664 3 жыл бұрын
Good add, Tim. Redrum for life, baby! 🤣🤣
@theevildrjelly4626
@theevildrjelly4626 3 жыл бұрын
Shelly Duvall had a mental breakdown after this film
@wfly81
@wfly81 3 жыл бұрын
Because Kubrick psychologically abused her.
@brandonhendrix7223
@brandonhendrix7223 3 жыл бұрын
Based on what? She did Popeye and Time Bandits right after this. Not to mention a long running TV Series, Fairy Tale Theatre. Not bad for someone who had breakdown.
@wfly81
@wfly81 3 жыл бұрын
@@brandonhendrix7223 Well, I don't know what to tell ya...she did.
@peterschmidt4348
@peterschmidt4348 3 жыл бұрын
I hope for PLANES, TRAINS AND AUTOMOBILES on Thanksgiving !?
@davidnorman4786
@davidnorman4786 3 жыл бұрын
Your reactions were hysterical. You're very fun to watch! And yes, watch Dr. Sleep. Then watch some of the conspiracy theories about this movie. There may (or may not) have been a lot more going on.
@nearax_966
@nearax_966 3 жыл бұрын
The reaction we"ve all been waiting for :D
@ek9509
@ek9509 Жыл бұрын
Want to know how to agitate Jack Nicholson? Well, apparently, he hates cheese sandwiches. So Stanley Kubrick, director of The Shining, made sure that was all that was available to his star actor. He wanted to ensure he was in the right mood to play a man going insane! Or you could do what Hunter S. Thompson did. As a prank on Jack's birthday, Hunter shone a massive spotlight on his house, while blasting a gruesome recording of a pig being eaten alive by bears. Hunter topped it off by firing his pistol and leaving a freshly-cut elk's heart on Jack's front door. All this was going on while Nicholson and his two daughters hid for their safety in the basement!
@jamesdegroat7640
@jamesdegroat7640 3 жыл бұрын
Terrific reaction ! Thanks
@JuntosXlaLibertadMileyBuIIrich
@JuntosXlaLibertadMileyBuIIrich 3 жыл бұрын
There is a very well done parody of this movie by the Simpsons, from season 4 or 5 I think. You should definetelly check for it.
@plk5520
@plk5520 3 жыл бұрын
Almost everybody knows about redrum. Even people who've never seen the movie. A lot of people back in the day, such as myself, read the Stephen King book before the movie came out So there's a giant spoiler that's really hard to avoid. You are one of the lucky few who experienced it with fresh eyes. It's a rare and wonderful thing.
@itz_mash
@itz_mash 3 жыл бұрын
YOU MICHT LIKE READY OR NOT!!! Check that one out. It’s directed but the guys are are making the new scream movie and it’s pretty good!
@truefirepinkguy4826
@truefirepinkguy4826 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite horror movie of all time, not a single horror movie can beat this film, in my opinion
@aidani4633
@aidani4633 3 жыл бұрын
Kubrick is my favorite director ever, It would be cool if you checked out 2001 a Space Odyssey which was also by him. Greatest film ever made in history! No question for me.
@nickmanzo8459
@nickmanzo8459 3 жыл бұрын
The picture at the end is a hotly debated topic. I think that the director intended for it to be something of a mystery, as the book has a very different ending (in that ending, the hotel explodes). In my personal opinion, Jack appearing in the photograph is meant to mean that Jack has become part of the hotel, maybe just another spooky story that gets told about the place, of possibly literally as a ghost.
@BlackavarWD
@BlackavarWD 3 жыл бұрын
Um, spoiler alert.
@heidimorales703
@heidimorales703 3 жыл бұрын
26:42 Here is Homer!!!! 😂😂😂😂
@fredrik5832
@fredrik5832 3 жыл бұрын
Your beard is looking good
@alexgraetzer
@alexgraetzer 3 жыл бұрын
I think Shelley DuVall gives one of the all time great performances in horror movies and doesn´t get nearly as much acclaim as Jack Nicholson. Specially considering how much of a bully Kubrick was to her, you can even see it in the Blu Ray extras how he prodded her and fucked with her to keep her scared.
@deboranascimento3496
@deboranascimento3496 3 жыл бұрын
You NEED watch Doctor sleep!!! It’s like part 2, is amazing 🤩
@JosieSchuller
@JosieSchuller 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your reaction to this and just became a subscriber 👍
@TimotheeReacts
@TimotheeReacts 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you liked the video
@embraceyourweirdness70
@embraceyourweirdness70 3 жыл бұрын
The kid grew up about 10 miles from where I grew up.
@fionamasters1822
@fionamasters1822 3 жыл бұрын
"I don't know if I can show that on KZbin" Me: oh it gets worse. Especially in 237
@Greenwood4727
@Greenwood4727 3 жыл бұрын
Just remember this was without the internet, without video games, not much on tv.. yeah it is a big difference with what we have now not to mention no cells. no mobiles, so no games on that, no hand held gaming systems
@mix6809
@mix6809 3 жыл бұрын
loved the reaction to this amazing movie, tnx
@TimotheeReacts
@TimotheeReacts 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks glad you enjoyed it!
@nglijie5716
@nglijie5716 2 жыл бұрын
Best part of the film is at 26:42 😂😂😂
@deya8329
@deya8329 3 жыл бұрын
Idk why i haven't see Dr. Sleep movie yet, but, as a huge Stephen King fan, i've read the books (The Shinning and Dr. Sleep) and, for me, are absolutely phenomenal. Hope you react soon to the sequel too.
@falcon048
@falcon048 3 жыл бұрын
Do some research on Stanley Kubrick and you learn that he never put anything in front of the camera that was not meant to be seen or had some meaning. Anything and everything had some form of meaning. The one that bothers me to this day about this movie, is when Jack is waiting for the manager at the hotel. He is sitting in a chair reading a magazine. Seems normal until Jack stands up, and drops the magazine. However, before Jack drops the magazine, he flips the cover around to ensure that it faces the camera before it dropped. It's an issue of PlayGirl magazine. If you research the issue, the main story is, "Incest: Why Parents Sleep With Their Children." The Director wanted the audience to question why Jack would be reading a magazine of this type and was he reading that story. Then it makes you wonder if Danny's accident wasn't just a simple matter of a dislocated shoulder out of drunken anger. There are other connections to this idea in the film. For example, the first time we see Danny, he is bent over the sink and we see his butt sticking out from the bathroom door. After he faints, he is laying on a teddy bear whose eyes are cut int he shape of the elevator dials. Then...later in the film, we have the guy in the bear costume committing an illicit act and we are introduced to him in the exact same way were were introduced to Danny...with his butt sticking out of the bedroom door. Many people suspect that Kubrick was trying to suggest that Danny was being sexually abused by Jack. That Jack was homosexual and that is why he hated Wendy. Albeit, if you have read the book, none of that is insinuated or remotely suggested. Here is an blog that goes into detail about it: collativelearning.com/the%20shining%20-%20chap%2016.html
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