Seiko Homage comparison. Who does the best Seiko homage?

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Seiko vs Seiko homages. What are they like for the money?? This video does a 10 round, 10 point per round challenge. Who wins? Please watch this video to not just see the winner, but why they get the scores they do!
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[@craigwithers7475]

Really interesting review! I'm going to get the islander when I have sufficient funds. I'm only recently discovered horology and I'm a seiko fan but that islander just knocks it right out of the park on every spec!

[@jazzman5598]

I buy regularly from Marc. LIW is top notch.

[@MrLahrbrat]

I just ordered the Steel Dive Captain Willard

[@karlsenula9495]

On my list for the holidays.

[@kengerace]

Just ordered the same as well. Now the wait 🙄

[@dennisgarner8001]

Just got mine this week, very pleased, you wont regret it.

[@NathanChisholm041]

I own three San Martins and they are without doubt some off the best watches around! San Martin rocks......

[@funkmon]

I love this category of homages that are arguably better than the originals!

[@bondpit8750]

Possibly, but they wouldn’t exist at all, were it not for the original, would they?

[@vonkruel]

@@bondpit8750 That's true of all homages, but they're usually not the same quality as the original (let alone better in most if not all respects).

[@darrenfry4695]

@@vonkruel well said lol bondpit sounds like he wanted an argument lol and you shut him up ,good one.

[@deanwaller8283]

@@vonkruel not really,he was simply pointing out that no matter how much better the homage is it can never be the original

[@bentlyist]

Great video, although I would have loved to see you take them into the water where they belong! I've gone through many watches over the years and I always come back to my SKX for surfing and diving. It is just the perfect balance of size and overall heft. (I did upgrade to a ceramic bezel and Strapcode bracelet from Mark at Island) Also, regarding the 7S26 movement, I have to say that it's my only watch that doesn't hack or hand wind but it's my favorite movement. For a true tool watch, it's perfect; absolutely no need for hacking or hand wind. If I haven't worn it for a bit I literally give it 2 shakes and it starts up. The "Magic Lever" winding system is so efficient, the winding is effortless. My SKX has been on surfing adventures in multiple countries. It's been pounded, ground and dropped, but hasn't missed a beat!

[@oktc68]

All the nh35 family use the magic lever system, I suspect that it's to be found on all their automatic movements. Not to mention everyone else's now. Genius in its simplicity, I really rate the NH35 family, altho' fiddly to regulate they are capable of extreme accuracy on wrist over 24 hours, they are happiest when wound fully after 24 hours of unwinding they do seem to lose consistency but if you move enough to keep it topped up they are great little movements. I've got around 14 and 3 of those gain up to 3 secs per day on my wrist (where it counts as) and the rest are all up to +10 SPD, I've had to regulate some as they were losing time which I can't tolerate. Not easy to reproduce the best results but easy to get them under +10 SPD.

[@stefbacum4454]

I have the first 3 from the left bookmarked, among some other 20 watches, as i will sometime in the future decide what to buy. I was really going to look for a comparison between them and there goes the notification that you made this video. Couldnt be happier it worked out like that. Great video, your content is amazing and i also like that you tackle these cheaper watches. Kudos and have a great day!

[@OutpowerFPS]

Great video! just a suggestion to let us hear the bezel action of each watch so we get a better idea of their scores. Cheers from Canada

[@darrenfry4695]

I like how you judged these ,very enjoyable Dan bravo

[@chu88y1]

Dan you are on a roll and you even incur wounds on our behalf! I like steel and I see that the other brands shy away from it. i would guess that no one - even Seiko - can equal the Islander steel bracelet.

[@stusims6567]

I think if my watch cut me I’d cut it right back! Great video as always!!!

[@snacklofter]

Enjoyed this - thank you! I can really see you channel growing exponentially over the next twelve months - atb snack.

[@Patriot_Bill]

Great review as ever old chap, 2 days to go till I get home to my new steeldive 1970.

[@fendergibson5222]

Excellent review!!! Very informative. I really enjoyed it and watch it to the end.

[@watchmewithwatches]

That's great to hear!

[@1968jpy]

I have about 16 Seiko’s or so in my collection and a year or so ago I bought a Proxima Scuba 🤿 Master 300 . It’s Proxima homage watch to the Marine Master 300 . I paid only $220 for this watch and it definitely compares to my $500-$600 Seiko’s I own and in some regards even better.

[@oktc68]

Really interesting video Dan, thanks.

[@soggz4246]

Great review. Steeldive for me, all the way. Great product, great value for money, everything is just right with them. All the best👍🏾🇬🇧

[@aussie8114]

Steeldive's blue AR coating rules this out for me. Generally the San Martin AR coating seems better. I wonder what AR coating if any the Islander has because I see no blue tint in that one. My pick is the Seiko.

[@HonestWatchReviewsHWR]

Great video mate. Really well done comparison.

[@jeffreyalbarandorivera8595]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. No.matter what happened the first to introduced is the best.

[@simonallsopp6276]

Nice review. Do you think the heimdallr might have scored better if it was an SKX rather than a Tuna? Gotta say though, your mod looked fantastic in the park!

[@gbiscuits]

yes, would be 1st/2nd, hard to beat for the price

[@CatBroiler]

I've had the heimdaller on my list, because they have a Aluminium Copper version that looks pretty good. The lume is different, even with the same chemical because of the thickness of the application of lume. Its a liquid when it's being applied to the dial /bezel.

[@sukhjitsingh6288]

Do another comparison with the same model homages that will then be a fair comparison scoring.

[@jeffreygleaves2931]

Tricky to make comparisons. If your Uncle Ned laid them all out and said, "pick one" it only makes sense to grab the Seiko. You buy a watch because you like it but if you get tired of it is anyone else going to like it? It doesn't matter much when you're only $100 bucks in I guess but that's what I consider the X Factor. I bought the Heimdallr homeage to the Gen.2 Monster because I figured that's as close as I'm going to get. All things considered it's probably a better watch than the original.....but if I had any sense I would pony up for the original.

[@TheUkester69]

I have the same San Martin model and mine has the same alignment problem. (Like you, no alignment problem with my SKX.)

[@watchmewithwatches]

Interesting, I wonder if they had a "bad batch"

[@CanadianBeachcomber]

Great comparison Dan. That was a lot of work, eh? I have yet to see a glowing assessment of a Heimdallr watch. There’s always some kind of “deal breaker” issue.

[@MyAlan999]

Big fan of Mark over at Long Island, but surprised it only won by a very small margin and if I’m being really honest , if you said Alan pick a watch buddy it’s yours... I’d pick your modded steel dive , just looks the best on the table by far

[@jorgec55]

Nice comparison. The next one should be turtles only on silicon/rubber. I have a San Martin with a modded dial and a Heimdallr and both have great presence and wonder what other people think about them

[@watchmewithwatches]

Great idea, I try to keep it fresh. Only downside to having a row or almost identical watches is it looks a bit dull and boring!

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

New subscriber. Great content. Didn’t know much about Seiko homages. Thanks for the info.

[@watchmewithwatches]

Welcome aboard!

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

watch me with watches thank you my friend.

[@watchalot919]

Bezel action is very subjective. I prefer a lot of resistance, and think Seiko bezels are dreadful.

[@bevboakes8982]

Hi Dan, that was a well thought out review and pretty much spot on. Like you said it’s down to each individual to what they want and like, as long as they are happy with their watch and enjoying the fun of it all so be it. Still saving for the islander though,but still keep looking at the Steeldive skx007 at the price in the uk site it’s a Steel. Keep up with your honest reviews catch up with you on your next video

[@watchmewithwatches]

Thanks for your comments, means a lot

[@alanmorris4185]

Would of been a better comparison if they were all skx models but thanks for the comparison

[@watchmewithwatches]

Thanks for the comment. I did intend to, but san Martin don't do an skx, so thought to stick with seiko homages in general

[@jazzman5598]

Hey Dan, fine review for starts & Thanks! What type of oil or silicone lube do you recommend. One of my favorite watches is my Steinhart Ocean 1 Vintage GMT (office…ETA 2893-2) & yes, the bezel lines up BUT……gee whiz that dang bezel can be close to impossible for my almost 70 yo arthritic hands to turn the thing. Thanks (I lean towards silicone for lasting power but I really do not have a clue.)

[@watchmewithwatches]

Hey there! I use wd40 silicone spray. Nice and easy to do an accurate squirt. Hope this helps you. Kind regards, Dan.

[@petert3412]

Good job, well done.

[@flexzonic]

Great Nice comparison.. Thx a lot ....Like

[@rucksackrules2266]

Great comparison, but… the Seiko has a different movement and when re-selling watches you won't loose any money on the Seiko.

[@Nome_utente_generico]

Please, is not a Rolex.

[@rucksackrules2266]

Massimo Riserbo No, otherwise it was Pagani Design and Rolex, hahaha.

[@roziroslan7891]

Not a bad review, but why you are not comparing them with similar category model and specifictions!

[@rikgroenevelt9395]

Ok video man i know rhere a lot of these revieuws regarding this subject. Your s very ok. Perhaps give a little bit of personal preference

[@Awkwardfruitfly]

Are we not comparing 4 fashion dive watches vs 1 actual dive watch? I think that’s probably the most important thing here

[@watchmewithwatches]

These are homages to seikos. They may not have the full iso ratings that a proper "dive" watch has, but they replicate the aesthetics and have adequate water protection for most users without the substantial extra cost.

[@Awkwardfruitfly]

watch me with watches yeah in understand. I think I would probably buy one with a GMT bezel or something. Seems weird to me to have a dive watch with a bezel, which isn’t really suitable for diving 🤷‍♂️. Cool review 👍

[@bmw128racer]

You didn't test each watch for performance/accuracy... That's a key feature to inexplicably omit.

[@watchmewithwatches]

I made this video a long Time ago before I had my timegrapher. My latest method of reviewing is to measure and test as much as I can. Thanks for watching

[@paulusvberkel1448]

mmmmm, I think the Heimdallr.

[@monsta3038]

Your missing tandorio the cheapest of them less color choices same sapphire, great lume

[@jholden0]

I as driving and just listening to your video. I looked at the video toward the end, and thought my phone was broken. I was expecting a 50- 60 year old based on your voice and tone. Haha

[@watchmewithwatches]

I hope you were concentrating on driving safely lol

[@jholden0]

@@watchmewithwatches sure was. I just thought it was funny.

[@pdmotors5027]

A nice review......

[@jandavey7372]

Love the presentations, have a look at the Heimdaller coin edge bezel and case, itsa beaut and would be absolutely perfect for a 007 Homage. Keep up the good work. JANBOY. RN. Rtd. Thailand.

[@RODAN6]

WOULDN’T IT HAVE BEEN A MORE CONCISE COMPARISON IF YOU HAD USED THE SAME HOMAGE MODEL RATHER THAN USING CAPTAIN WILLARD, A TUNA, ETC?

[@watchmewithwatches]

True, but I hadn't planned for this video. The idea came to me after I looked at my collection.

[@The69bombero]

It is a Shark. It was probably hungry

[@watchmewithwatches]

Lol, very! my finger was its meal for the day

[@Tangylives]

£312 for the SKX! I bought one a year and a half ago for £220 and that was after I got smacked by 20%.

[@watchmewithwatches]

The are getting rarer and more collectible it seems. I sold it for £335. Not huge profit, but more than I bought it for is good!

[@davemck1887]

Science with watches! Who'd have funk it? Good stuff Dan

[@inventor1v]

Heimdallr 10 down to 8 because of the bezel is an it strap when you awarded it zero for bezel action! You at least need to be consistent.

[@watchmewithwatches]

I agree, this one of my earlier videos, I think I need to look at these again!

[@chrisoconnor3119]

Action was not a category because they all use nh35a or variant?

[@Jacked153]

You forgot to mention how much the Islander watch was at the start :) Also think you might have the only Seiko in existence that doesn't have alignment issues.

[@watchmewithwatches]

Thanks, I thought I said $299. Lol thanks again

[@striker8380]

I have seven perfectly aligned Seiko's!

[@jaysterling26]

@@striker8380 I have 3..but they've got the worst accuracy..hilarious.

[@tentotwo8290]

Great, thanks for sharing 👍 Regarding selling watches, what would someone expect to get for a second hand watch? Thanks. (As a percentage of the original price)

[@watchmewithwatches]

It all depends. Some watches hold their value, some depreciate badly, some can sell for more. What watch are you referring to?

[@tentotwo8290]

@@watchmewithwatches I haven't sold any yet, I normally stick to £100 to £200 automatic watches. Just wondering how much of a hit I would be expecting if I decided to sell any. Thanks 👍 Love the channel.

[@watchmewithwatches]

@@tentotwo8290 its normally not too bad, just take the plunge and enjoy!

[@tentotwo8290]

@@watchmewithwatches thanks 👍

[@namenotavailable11]

You shouldn't have some of these categories if you're going to also do the fit and finish category and double count them.

[@watchmewithwatches]

Great tips, will look to adapt as I do more of these comparison videos

[@cesarespinozaspain]

Too bad the San Martin Black dial (with logo and sterile) 6105 homage are all sold out.

[@Dave062YT]

I have to disagree about the brand value San Martin has built a very good name for itself in a very short time much like tho just behind Islander

[@watchmewithwatches]

Thats True True, they are definitely a fast growing brand

[@Black_noir_mw3]

I didn't think I'd be one of those guys but if my watch cuts me im chucking it

[@Black_noir_mw3]

I really love this style of video, I'm broke and looking for the best quality to cost ratio, it seems steeldive took the market

[@Cur8or88]

The Islander is the smaller 38mm, right?

[@watchmewithwatches]

This one is the 38mm.

[@fiftyfourwatch2794]

Dear, u forget FIFTYFOURWATCH :)

[@PierreLucGagnon58]

If you had to keep only one of those which one would it be?

[@watchmewithwatches]

Great question. I would like the bigger size islander! Blue dial, blue bezel.

[@PierreLucGagnon58]

@@watchmewithwatches I agree. In stock form, I would choose the orange Islander out of all of them. With mods, I think your modded SteelDive looks the best but at the same time, I think a blue Islander is the best overall. Thanks for the video!

[@Dave062YT]

That's why its a Tuna ,cuts fingers like a tuna can lol

[@manueljnegrete5048]

What? cubic zirconia is more perfect then a natural diamond. Would I take a zirconia over a diamond? I have more costly divers then my skx007j but I always prefer the skx. It just feels and looks better on the wrist. Don't ever give your spouse a cz ring or you may wind up in the dog house....

[@katerhofmann]

Could be turned out a bit different if you gave all these watches a daily use, in situation their looks suggest they are build for - get them wet, in and under the water and look at them again in a year. My Steeldive bezel gave up, very stiff, no more audible clicks, nor nice tactical feel, even after it got the oil treatment. I suspect corrosion. That just after a half year. My muffled sounding skx bezel turns the same way after three years, like on the first day. Never turned stiff and never needed extra care and lubrication to keep it turning. Will the other watches perform the same after three years? A next look we could take in 5, 10, 15 years. The 7s26 in the SKX will be still running. No doubts, all these old seiko 5 give a lot of evidence for it. No handwinding translates to less stress on the stem and one point less of potential failure. Your San Martin has a stem issue, you hear from many people reporting stem issues on their steeldive 007. If there is a problem right in the beginning, they are probably out of the race in 5 years. The skx you buy once and it will last for many years to come. With some of its competitors, you might have buy it again because it didn't last very long if you really use it as the tool its promised to be. Desk diving, coming out of the watchbox only for bbq afternoons on sunny sundays or modding on for halloween (no snark remark - your mod is beautiful) - they are for sure some colourful and/or more affordable alternatives.

[@watchmewithwatches]

Great comment kater, longevity is a crucial aspect to owning an object like this. For many, saving a few quid is more important, and others value solid engineering and want to pay for it. If I could keep and wear all these watches all the time, I would definitely do that in the name of deeper understanding and for an even better understanding of their pros and cons. Thanks again.

[@camarocarl7130]

Stick with a ISO rated diver IMHO, not chinese parts assembled in someones garage. You were far too kind to all the fakes!

[@watchmewithwatches]

I have always been told Im "too nice".