And after 5-10 years the movement can just be replaced for ~80$ witout necessity to service it. If it will be hard to find - just order st2130 or even sw200 for a little more money
@Trex1003 жыл бұрын
For the money, I think it’s worth it, despite the stigma of it being manufactured in China. You made some really nice observations and criticisms in this review. After spending some time looking at the original BB58 compared to this, i have to admit you’re right about how the bezel should not be glossy. On the other hand, i like it when an homage isn’t a copy, so it loses and gains points on that criterion. Thanks again for the lovely review!
@karlroberts5803 жыл бұрын
Love this watch and it’s next on my shopping list. I’ve become a huge San Martin fan recently after buying the 62mas followed by a v3 water ghost. The build quality and finish is better that most of the Seiko’s in my collection. They’re incredible
@felo60353 жыл бұрын
Hello Dan, Outstanding review as usual, thank you very much. I think this is overall one terrific watch. I'm particularly impressed with how well the PT5000 runs!!! Even the hexagonal logo is growing on me... I do wish they made the change you suggested to the bezle. Money wise it is getting a bit high for an AliExpress homage, and as I say this, the specs and quality are extremely good. I'm tempted on this one, but waiting to see if it goes on sale..... Thank you again and all the best my friend. Cheers
@noonancolm3 жыл бұрын
I order this SM today.. I'm sure i will love it 👍 I like the contrast between the bessel and the dial
@watchmewithwatches3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy it
@andrebarthelotte21943 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I love all my San Martin watches. Never a bad one. Just it hurts to see there prices go up but I will save for them
@briancolyer84833 жыл бұрын
Loving these videos brother, camera work is superb....Both look fantastic, prefer the blue though....they are well made and I believe these are currently the best BB homage currently available....unfortunately I can't really afford to pick up any watches this year, gutted, so this will have to go on my list....🏴⌚🏴⌚
@KabobHope3 жыл бұрын
You love the macro shots on this video and ended up watching it again to see if I wanted to purchase this watch during the AliEx sale. I like this gray/black dial of this SM a lot, but ended up getting something completely different along with a Benyar Tudor homage which is not nearly as nice as this one, but is a bit less expensive and has a not-quite-as-smooth movement and some other sacrifices. That blows my watch budget for awhile, and I can enjoy wearing them while I finish quarantining. Great vid. So nice I watched it twice. Keep up the good work.
@bigbearddahuzi1036 Жыл бұрын
If they had printed their logo instead of having it as applied, this watch would look really sharp. Just can't get past the logo. Really well made video mate
@robworthington74313 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous watch and really helpful review - love the grey dial actually. I think the price is well worth it for the quality on offer here + the high beat movement.
@AlexanderB.3 жыл бұрын
You were right pointing out some of the issues of the black version like the mismatch between the deep black glossy bezel insert and the matt greyish dial. I think on the blue version these parts work together better. And & found the BGW9 lume on my blue version to be very good, even better than on the SM Submariner homage whitch itself is no slouch when it comes to lume. I was easily able to tell the time throughout the night. When resizing the bracelet I used the small blade of an old pocket knife to hold the screw on one side of the bracelet. It was much easier that way, I highly recommend it. This was an excellent review, cheers Dan👍
@aaronbiddulph14423 жыл бұрын
Really love the look of this watch will buy when got the money. Think your review was very fair. Although I do think it would look better with a Matt black bezel insert I’m glad it’s not aluminium. Just love San Martin watches there so well made. Looking forward to the blue version review👍🏻
@watchlife_reviews3 жыл бұрын
Great Video brother! Love to support these smaller Chanels like my own.
@Jacked1533 жыл бұрын
I recently got a San Martin SN004G and I can't agree more the bracelet is the most tedious thing on a watch ever. Thought I hated pin a collar systems, then I tried this.... honestly the rivets are so heavily torqued in there on my watch it was close to impossible to remove on of them. Word to the wise, be careful using the threadlock if you intent to sell the watch. You could make it impossible for the next owner to remove links
@JB-qt8eh3 жыл бұрын
The new SN019 sub looks amazing.
@JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm3 жыл бұрын
Another great offering from San Martin. I agree with you on ‘a nice to have’ would be a mat-finish bezel insert. I’m looking forward to seeing the PT 5000 in many more watches of this type. Little house and then you Fasher to make the watches thinner and much more wearable! Thanks for the great review!
@mikesheehan59463 жыл бұрын
Top job mate. Great review. Show me the blue!
@the_9ent3 жыл бұрын
Seriously considering this for the end of month sale
@JasonTheWatchGuy3 жыл бұрын
Love the vintage feel of this one! They always seem to nail it over at San Martin!
@watchmewithwatches3 жыл бұрын
I think this whole vintage trend is working for them. I wonder whats next?!
@JasonTheWatchGuy3 жыл бұрын
@@watchmewithwatches I'm hoping vintage Zenith but that'd be slim to no chance haha
@andrewmccurdy93253 жыл бұрын
@@watchmewithwatches they said on Instagram that they’re doing a vintage Rolex explorer but in 39mm instead of the 36mm like the Smiths
@watchmewithwatches3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewmccurdy9325 if only it was 36mm!
@ulysses141019663 жыл бұрын
the best Tudor homage i've ever seen. great review!
@NhatLinhNguyen823 жыл бұрын
It is Tudor Black Bay, not Hamilton though. Or am I tripping?
@ulysses141019663 жыл бұрын
@@NhatLinhNguyen82 OMG... my bad... spoke before having my first cup of coffee :(
@elmoelms27433 жыл бұрын
Mine arrived yesterday (Saturday) I also got the black version. So far it’s a lovely watch but it is early days. As the sale is on at the end of the month I might even be tempted to buy the blue
@the_9ent3 жыл бұрын
Did you have to pay customs?
@elmoelms27433 жыл бұрын
@@the_9ent strangely enough no! I paid my £241 plus free postage and that was that. I was expecting too
@robertmarshall723 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review again with you on the changes you said that would make it a killer watch. Think I'm into the blue version looking forward to your video on that one. 😎👍
@funkmon3 жыл бұрын
I wasn't sure what it was that looked off about these but it's definitely the dial and ceramic bezel. I got tired of waiting for the homage people so I bought a proper one. -.-. it's actually really nice. In terms of playing with my watches, oh yeah for sure. Constantly. I don't touch the bezel though, mostly just take it on and off over and over. Maybe that's why my straps all break...
@AlexanderB.3 жыл бұрын
You bought a proper BB58? It's one of the most beautiful watches ever, full stop👌 Enjoy this watch!
@funkmon3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderB. it's quite nice but it's actually not my style. It's about as close as a dive watch will get, but I'm much more of a flashy minimalism guy. Hard to explain that. While I do wear it, it's getting much less wrist time than even some cheaper watches I have. They at least have the date. :P Check out Dufrane Barton Springs. That's my shit, yo. $500, Swiss movement but assembled and regulated in the USA, both flashy and minimalist. Very nice.
@HVG673 жыл бұрын
There's just a few things killing this watch for me personally. Number one: it's an homage (which isn't an issue in itself). Number two: the pricing in regards to point 1. Three: the overcomplicated bracelet (yes you do it only once - hopefully). I wish they just had a NH38/NH35 version. Short answer: if this wasn't a Aliexpress watch but a microbrand I'd be more inclined to buy one.
@minchrono24lover273 жыл бұрын
I was actually glad it wasn't another piece of crap nh35/38. God I hate those movements.
@acrewdog3 жыл бұрын
I think the reason they could make the watch so thin was this movement. The svelte thickness of this watch turned me on to it much more than when I first saw it.
@HVG673 жыл бұрын
@@minchrono24lover27 I have 80 watches and at least 45 are Seiko movements. Never had a bad experience with them yet. They're reliable workhorses.
@wed2652 жыл бұрын
Great review as always my friend. I like you you seem like a great guy. Can you get the blue version in I just ordered that one. I got it in the sale for $266. You can't beat that with a stick. LOL Ray 🇺🇸
@garyk82853 жыл бұрын
I agree on bezel and dial tone should be closer matched. I have this same issue with my Seiko SBDC061, which no one has ever mentioned online.
@nintendokings3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Unfortunately I think the blue version suffers from a too glossy bright blue bezel
@multipl32 жыл бұрын
Excellent review man! Subbed
@watchmewithwatches2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou! Welcome aboard
@MyAlan9993 жыл бұрын
Great review Dan , agree with all your points and feel exactly the same - a darker dial with matte black bezel insert , female endlinks and for me the could do away with the rivet screws as there just too much of a pain in the ass to size :) set mine last Saturday and been wearing it most days/nights at work , run's a few seconds slow but i started leaving it dial up when sleeping , currently it's only -4 seconds over the whole week , not bad at all lol , my first San Martin and apart from the bracelet sizing I've been very impressed
@watchreviews4k3 жыл бұрын
Interesting review. Regards.
@watchmewithwatches3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@donnyboon28963 жыл бұрын
Yes
@timefliesby-jleo4743 жыл бұрын
I would buy it right away if they did the female end links.
@tarekalsharif40143 жыл бұрын
Am still waiting for the same with white dail or orange I couldn't find good collection from those two colors
@Novit3R3 жыл бұрын
I'd buy it if the crystal was more raised as it is with the bb58. Also I'd like they made the diameter of the bezel and insert a bit smaller. For my taste this would make the watch more proportional and more eye pleasing.
@watchmewithwatches3 жыл бұрын
Excellent points, I agree!
@extradimensional88182 жыл бұрын
I watched this to watch watches✌️🧐🇬🇧
@gs82873 жыл бұрын
Pagani have just released their version of the Black bay, looks good. That San Martin is a real beauty!
@michaelperry92613 жыл бұрын
The Pagani Design BB58 looks nicer to me. The waffle dial, square hr markers & female end links. The San Martin has a better movement, but that's it IMO.
@karlroberts5803 жыл бұрын
Also interested to see what the Pagani has to offer. Looks good in the photos
@nintendokings3 жыл бұрын
Looks cheap in the real photos imo
@AlexanderB.3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelperry9261 Trust me, the quality & feel of the Pagani Design is nowhere near San Martin. Plus the PD it's a 42 mm watch. Not great imo.
@shawn19283 жыл бұрын
if you're also buying this for the lume quality, it's San Martin all day (not Pagani)
@johnmuthan2863 жыл бұрын
Warning about the pt5000 : BIG warning about the pt5000. I have already my new bb58 with issues (handwinding mechanism stucked) , so does another youtubers (slightly different issues) and you , and a friend of mine has issues with the Cronos, that is 4 issues with this movement in no time!!!
@watchmewithwatches3 жыл бұрын
Thanks forgetting me know. Have you seen my new review comparing this to the blue one. My blue one has reverse gear being stuck issue.
@johnmuthan2863 жыл бұрын
@@watchmewithwatches yeap, and also said you on the blue version video I had an issue :)
@brianmsahin3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review....
@dunderhay91693 жыл бұрын
Great review 👍. I do like the watch head a lot, but I don't like the bracelet, the rivets and male end links ruin it for me. If they did a cheaper one on a rubber strap that would be my choice. The movement is impressive, but you've ruined the watch for me, now I can't unsee the dial/bezel mismatch 😂 well spotted!
@vincidicaprio2983 жыл бұрын
In 2018 their rivet bracelets did have a female end link. Much better indeed!
@NhatLinhNguyen823 жыл бұрын
would you review the blue one before Aliexpress Anniversary Sales? I can't decide between blue and this
@Visitor5553 жыл бұрын
What date are these sales?
@NhatLinhNguyen823 жыл бұрын
@@Visitor555 Starts on 24th. Runs for few days I guess
@superaktiv333 жыл бұрын
Cool video! I like your voice a lot :)
@johnmuthan2863 жыл бұрын
Just received mine, I don't understand the fuss about adjusting the bracelet, it took me no time to remove 3 links (2 from a side, 1 from the other) and screw back these screws pins. You guys must have 2 left feet instead of hands and fingers !!!!
@watchmewithwatches3 жыл бұрын
I have 6 fingers made of butter
@johnmuthan2863 жыл бұрын
@@watchmewithwatches 😅🤪😁
@buijs19673 жыл бұрын
I am waiting for a gmt version
@paultollervey26353 жыл бұрын
Are they making one, or is this just a wish?
@buijs19673 жыл бұрын
@@paultollervey2635 just a wish
@Godotlv50003 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for a day-date homage with champagne dial. Hopefully they do it, I love san martin watches and their customer service.
@johnmuthan2863 жыл бұрын
They are doing a GMT vintage sub homage already
@buijs19673 жыл бұрын
@@johnmuthan286 I know, but not a Tudor version
@Tangylives3 жыл бұрын
The bezel/dial texture and colour difference is enough for me to not want this colourway. I would've liked the lume to be slightly more cream and less yellow. At the end of the day, when SM are pushing into this price bracket they really need to win me over. This just doesn't quite do it for me.
@andrei-cosmin.popa853 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! 👏🏻 Personal tjoughts : there's too many shapes on that dial. Square indices mighty have done the trick on this model.
@watchmewithwatches3 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@avavaviv12 жыл бұрын
Consider slower aperature for your macro shots. The shots as now are very not sharp with a lot of fringing.
@watchmewithwatches2 жыл бұрын
Hi, this is before I upgraded ny macro lens. Thanks for the tips !
@paultollervey26353 жыл бұрын
When are you expectIng the blue version? Really interested to see the two side by side before taking the plunge.
@watchmewithwatches3 жыл бұрын
I'm working on the review as we speak!
@paultollervey26353 жыл бұрын
@@watchmewithwatches Excellent , thanks. Would be great to see both before the March sale. Loving your work by the way.
@garyk82853 жыл бұрын
Would be great if it had a Date function on the watch, perhaps at the 6 o'clock.
@possumsam21893 жыл бұрын
Not really. I'd seen Microbrands with a similar layout and the date window in the 6 o' clock position. It is unique but doesn't work for this style of watch in my opinion.
@williamb87643 жыл бұрын
Too expensive for an AliExpress homage as far as I’m concerned. At that price tag you can get a great time piece from a brand with horological heritage, with an in house movement and those are things I value more than a specs sheet. But hey to each his own !
@watchmewithwatches3 жыл бұрын
Great point. For £240, what watch would you recommend with those specs? I want one!
@williamb87643 жыл бұрын
@@watchmewithwatches You can’t have everything, what I said is that at this price point I’d rather get an original time piece like the Orient Kamasu than a super speced homage :) But then again, I totally get why people love these. It’s a lot of watch for the price tag !
@watchmewithwatches3 жыл бұрын
@@williamb8764 great point! The orient Kamasu is such a lovely watch. I only sold mine to fund more watches! Lol
@tuzu17583 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to have seen printed rather than applied.
@michaelhargis70363 жыл бұрын
Printed over applied? I don't think I've ever heard anyone ever have that preference.
@johnmuthan2863 жыл бұрын
That is the main reason I bought this one over their vintage sub, because it had applied instead of printed :)
@terryaustin71403 жыл бұрын
I fiddle with my watches as well.
@ABCDE7103 жыл бұрын
I don't mind homages but this one is straight up a copy of the Tudor watch.
@udojager26733 жыл бұрын
It's an interesting watch. However, the price is very high. Almost 300 euros. And then there are customs and taxes. You are priced at a Steinhart watch.
@xxGravyBabyxx3 жыл бұрын
It beats the actual tudor price though and the tudor version has a aluminum bezel at that price!!
@e28forever303 жыл бұрын
You know you can get San Martin watch shipped from Belgium? So, no taxes..
@KabobHope3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they're too expensive now. I'll just save a little more and get a Seiko.
@watchmewithwatches3 жыл бұрын
Its a risky move creeping the prices up so high.
@Jikaninja3 жыл бұрын
Be honest......after tried many Aliexpress brands....Phylida, Bliger, Corgeut, Pagani Design, and recently after all the hypes on Steeldive.....My experience with them are all negative and those brands are all sucks one way or other! The “Only” affordable Chinese made brand I bought and leave me great experience and service is San Martin. So, ppl, don’t waste your time, money and cause yourself all kinds of anxiety wishing that watch you just bought from Aliexpress and hope the watch is not a crap....then stop. Save your money and go for San Martin.....I don’t work for them, this is just my true testimony after wasted so much of my time and money on those other crappy brands....if you going to buy Chinese, San Martin should be the only brand you spend your money on! Period. Oh, and don’t buy San Martin on Aliexpress, buy directly from their website. Glenn from San Martin is fantastic and great to deal with!
@alexprendido20233 жыл бұрын
Uff 👌
@andrev46833 жыл бұрын
Hands are misaligned, you can tell at the begining of the video, it's 3 minutes past the hour, but the hour hand is not at 6 o'clock yet...b
@watchmewithwatches3 жыл бұрын
Omg, I didn't notice!
@neilwhite81313 жыл бұрын
Well spotted.
@laserwave60123 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love what SM are doing with their watches but the logo is a big turn off for me, it's gotta be one of the ugliest out there.
@johnleonard39512 жыл бұрын
I think all watch braclets should be female end links. Not a fan of that jutting out look
@watchmewithwatches2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, they look nice, and always allow for a nicer fit.
@sneekerstattoo3 жыл бұрын
I do like these San Martin watches….until I see that damn shark on the crown,puts me right off😩
@watchmewithwatches3 жыл бұрын
Got some more coming soon with a new design on the crowns.....
@trailerparkboysbestshow33273 жыл бұрын
too bad the male links makes this watch HUGE :(
@watchmewithwatches3 жыл бұрын
It does wear well still. Maybe a smaller wrist would show the lug to lug more though.
@garyk82853 жыл бұрын
I disagree on female end link. Male is better, it gives more definition at the lugs. Female end links tend to look cheap.
@dr8853 жыл бұрын
It would be much more beautiful without that ugly logo.
@ojsimps7013 жыл бұрын
Blatant rip off of swiss tudor rose design!
@IverKnackerov Жыл бұрын
…which was a direct copy of the 1958 original …. Get over it
@kobe5rings3 жыл бұрын
Imagine making a 15 minute video and only putting one picture on wrist.... 🤦🏻♂️
@watchmewithwatches3 жыл бұрын
Shocking!
@ojsimps7013 жыл бұрын
Dont buy chinese!
@drgeek1003 жыл бұрын
Personally I think this is a very cheesy BB58 wannabe.