Waybig vs Atomix is not close | Ben 10

[@mccharles1257]

Hello everyone! I hope you enjoyed the video! I would like to make a quick correct to a small mistake I made in the video. During the in universe comparison portion of the video I said Malware absorbed the "entire species of galvanic mechamorphs", I was sort of wrong. To be more exact, Malware absorbed the helix that created the galvanic mechamorph species. This doesn't change much in terms of scaling when taking into consideration that the helix had the power to terraform the entirety of galvan B and is responsible for the creation of the galvanic mechamorphs in the first place. Link to the Ink Tank's video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5m7omuweZd6r68si=YubC9MFyql37yXnr

[@mccharles1257]

200 + comments is insane.... Thank you all for watching! The number of comments were a little intimidating at first, but after reading through a lot of them, I'm feeling a little inspired. If I ever do make a follow-up video, it'll probably be titled "Ben's strongest aliens are complicated" because of all the options suggested. I love hearing your opinions, and if I did make a video like that, I think it I'd probably spend a lot of time discussing feats, statements, and material that just gives insight on any particular alien who's capabilities stand out to me. No promises, regardless, though, just wanted to show my appreciating for yall! Thank you!

[@SinisterRachelHater]

ultimate humungasour got up in like a few minutes then trowed way big easily while when atomix hit ultimate humungasour he effortlessly beat him while just learning its power, while both of them beat ultimate's the difference is atomix barely tried and still overpowered it while way big did kind of try and ultimate humungasour got up and managed to throw him also your using feats from uncannon games for waybig not to mention ov vilgax is comparable to other versions of him through scaling from his aliens and malware theres not much to say other then the fact we dont know how strong he was compared to the version of malware who beat waybig that didnt absorb galvin b or the species so malgax isnt as weak as you imply malgax also aid no alien he had could beat him now and he should know about waybig and he might not know about alien x to explain that

[@SinisterRachelHater]

also ben 10k's strongest alien is atomic x so why wouldnt it be way bix? because way big is weaker im not trying to say way big cant beat atomix that is a fair thought while i thnk atomix beats him you could think that but implying way big could just one shot him is stupid

[@darklordsonic9757]

@@SinisterRachelHater are you like repeating the debunk videos points if so unoriginal man

[@scotland8906]

Real ones know clockwork is Ben's second strongest alien

[@MisaelBitangaza]

Word

[@ogulcanlayik7347]

How does it beat chromastone tho?

[@councilcarrot]

​@@ogulcanlayik7347 Time manipulation is insanely powerful since it gives Clockwork all the time he needs to figure out how to defeat an opponent and then actually do so, all of which being instantaneous when time resumes. Tl;Dr: Time manipulation makes anything a cake-walk

[@ogulcanlayik7347]

@@councilcarrot Well not a bad idea, but I say the battle is much harder than that. Like time attacks wont work on Chromastone

[@zyella277]

Clockwork , gravattack and waybig are all good /plausisble options for being ben's 2nd strongest allien. Feedback is aslo up there for sure, But way big is one that has the most screentime (being aslo the oldest of the bunch introduced in first movie and during time of orginal show)

[@LucyWest370]

Atomix’s powers go mostly unexplored and hes had to hold back on multiple occassions to prevent collateral damage, so maybe if he had more than ten seconds of screentime we’d be able to put a pin in this

[@the_alpha_arachnid4831]

I would imagine he wasn't holding back again malwgax

[@eneskaplan7856]

@@the_alpha_arachnid4831 im pretty sure he wasnt holding back but lack of mastery and something like that could effect the power of alien like what happened with chromastone

[@the_alpha_arachnid4831]

@@eneskaplan7856 this is the perfect omnitrix where he has instant mastery over the aliens

[@cem575]

​@@the_alpha_arachnid4831 he sometimes can't even control the watch what re u talking about

[@zomorion9183]

@@cem575 he means the watch has a functionality that grants him perfect mastery.

[@someoneindeed]

Way big has also straight up shown to have superspeed, when he ran around the city sized trash monster so fast that the wind created launched it into the sun

[@Skitations]

I feel like you could argue Waybig is actually a faster speedster than Fasttrack who’s top speed was roughly around I think Mach 3.

[@tarangatan8119]

Jetray is faster than xlr8

[@someoneindeed]

@@tarangatan8119 yeah?

[@tarangatan8119]

@@someoneindeed and heatblast is hot

[@beywheelzhater8930]

@@tarangatan8119AND I PLAY POT OF GREED THIS CARD ALLOWS ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS

[@Despecs2099]

"Waybig vs Clockwork is actually a close discussion" Shows Waybig getting dusted by another time warpper💀

[@geelangadipr223]

Clockwork arent that strong. His power only control time.

[@Despecs2099]

@@geelangadipr223 excuse me... Time control ain't a broken ability?😅

[@geelangadipr223]

@@Despecs2099 he can barely run. Maltruent are strong equal to prof. paradox but not clockwork. Somehow asmuth making him weaker

[@Despecs2099]

@@geelangadipr223 yeah I will say that's kinda weird cause he had to be upgraded to be able to fight maltruant but the whole running thing is kind of irrelevant when you can slow down time😅. I mean the flash struggles with zoom for a reason. (comic zoom)

[@geelangadipr223]

@@Despecs2099 clockwork+upgrade vs maltruent still lose. Clockwork lost many ability maltruent can, like multiply himself, crossing time and dimention, untransform ben by a touch.

[@badpunking1883]

Yeah. It seems like they intended on Atomix being stronger based on omniverse dev statements saying Atomix was number 2 and Way Big number 6 (with the implication that 3-5 were still locked), but Atomix was never treated as a big power house the same way Way Big is. If they really wanted to push this narrative, Atomix needed to be shown to be overkill for everyday occurences. Maybe show Atomix soloing a way bad, or have Albedo as Ultimate Way Big fight him, maybe show Atomix shooting a blast powerful enough to destroy a planet, anything that actually demonstrates why he should even be looked at in the same category of power as Way Big.

[@FireArtVids21]

Agreed. They should have actually showed Atomix being the second strongest by doing all those things you mentioned.

[@SomeRandomKydd]

Wanna know who I think Ben’s #2 is? Gravattack. He is underutilized, but has still shown himself able to create black holes, throw around opponents many times his physical superior, and clasp just looks cool.

[@gigachad6885]

Clockwork should be number 2, time manipulation is just OP. Freeze time, and age your opponent to dust (or a baby) I'd say : 1 Alien X 2 clockwork 3 gravattack (atomix and waybig can't beat him if they can't move) 4 waybig 5 atomix

[@SomeRandomKydd]

@@gigachad6885 I would agree with that. Clockwork does seem much more intuitive than Gravattack even if Gravattack has a theoretically higher power level.

[@infinitytimer6245]

Man, the black hole thing is always taken out of context. Gravattack only "created" a black hole because he used his powers on a Time Beast he can't do that on his own. Even if he could, the black hole would also kill him as we saw he couldn't reverse it.

[@SomeRandomKydd]

@@infinitytimer6245 the writers have stated that Gravattack can create black holes regardless of the situation. He would just need a source of mass to compress. While yeah these statements are topped with salt, there is no evidence yet to contradict this one given it is paired with them saying the reason a black hole of that size (~the mass of earth!) was able to form was due to the Time Beast’s weird biology.

[@infinitytimer6245]

​@@SomeRandomKyddthe mass of the Earth is INCREDIBLY insignificant for Black holes (Your average Black hole can have a mass 3x that of the sun) So basically either gravattack can naturally create incredibly small black holes on his own. Or he can make normal black holes... that end up killing him aswell. (Tough way to go) Yeah, it's a bit fishy even with author statements but it really doesn't matter considering I agree with his placement on your list regardless.

[@SomeRandomKydd]

Another reason Waybig would win is that aforementioned speed. He could easily dodge Atomix’s attacks. And that isn’t considering that in Cosmic destruction, the Waybig duplicate crossed a galaxy in a single week which means he traveled many times the speed of light. If he traveled this fast on earth, ignoring the fact it would destroy the earth, the relativistic mass he would produce would easily flatten Atomix.

[@someoneindeed]

Way big has also straight up shown to have superspeed, when he ran around the city sized trash monster so fast that the wind created launched it into the sun

[@yashJoshi-hn6bf]

That game is not Canon, also that monster episode feat was due to ultimatrix glitch

[@SomeRandomKydd]

@@yashJoshi-hn6bf didn’t know about the glitch part. Source?

[@yashJoshi-hn6bf]

@@SomeRandomKydd Derrick j wyatt

[@randomcelestialsapien115]

@@yashJoshi-hn6bf it was still written by one of the writers and the games are mentioned as alternate timelines which still scales to Ben and The one who said it was a glitch was from DJW who is unreliable and his statements are contradicted by the show itself

[@hikarihakai1285]

This is expected consider how Way Big is inspired by Ultraman and they have some wild power feat over the year, on average they are around planetary but some could destroy the universe with ability to travel on an multiversal level

[@Psusanoo]

Ben becomes the peak of each race with his alien transformations. So, his waybig, should the powers it has be considered the peak of tokustars, should have the maximum power of a tokustar, proportional to Ben's current age. Which means both Atomix and Waybig could potentially become even stronger, if these species becoming stronger with age.

[@baconlord2545]

Atomix naturally generates Nuclear Energy While Waybig’s species are basically cosmic storms fused into a living mass so cosmic radiation might make them more powerful it’s all theorizing though.

[@bestdadoftheyear7181]

@@baconlord2545i do think there's not many ways for Atomix's species to grow unlike WayBig.

[@FireArtVids21]

Feedback is also one of Ben’s most powerful aliens

[@gman-3604]

I always thought feedback was above waybig and atomix

[@halftendedifiebf1741]

@@gman-3604no he is Not

[@someoneindeed]

​@@gman-3604 He is, and clockwork is above all three (you could also potentially put gravattack above them but it's only if you count the blackhole thing as a feat)

[@someoneindeed]

​@@halftendedifiebf1741he is

[@elijahharris5481]

Feedback got the most potential besides alien x with the second biggest feat absorbing and containing a big bang

[@roastingmarshmallow8654]

Thank you I’ve been arguing this for years. But Atomix losing to Malgax is an anti feat because Diamondhead can press Malgax

[@FireArtVids21]

Also whampire was pushing Malgax back with his punches.

[@VietNguyen-mf4wh]

Diamondhead pressed him so much that he got punch to another planet 😂

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

Atomix wasn't using his radioactive powers there tho

[@the_alpha_arachnid4831]

@@theamazingspooderman2697 considering multiple of malwares attacks used radiation or a similar particles I'm pretty sure malgax would handle it

[@brothsipper-h5o]

Nah Malgax low diffed Diamondhead plus Diamondhead is the same guy who can neg Warlord Vilgax who beat a bunch of Ben's aliens like Humungousaur, Chromastone, and Swampfire.

[@KhushwinderSingh-kx2jd]

I KNOWWW RIGHTT , PEOPLE KEEP SHITTING ON WAYBIG FOR NO REASON

[@CaptainCoolGuy-xyz]

I love Waybig but I personally still think Atomix is stronger just based off him being able to manipulate radiation, which could effectively give him near infinite energy levels because (unlike NRG) Atomix can generate his own his own energy. I still love Waybig a lot but I feel Atomix is probably stronger. Waybig is 100% 3rd tho.

[@mertensiam3384]

​@@CaptainCoolGuy-xyz what about Gravattack or clockwork? Clockwork was able to reverse INFINITE damage on INFINITE realities. And even way bigs super speed is nothing on gravity manipulation powers (gravity can even affect light, so his beams could be redirected at him). Gravattack could compress him no problem. I do think Gravattack couldn't take one beam to the face tho, si I guess they're more in equal grounds that people think

[@CaptainCoolGuy-xyz]

@@mertensiam3384 Ben really hasn't used Gravattack to his full potential, but just based off what it says he can do he's up there.

[@g3nd1a69]

In my opinion Ben’s top 5 goes like this. 1) Alien X 2) Clockwork 3) Gravattack 4) Way Big 5) Atomix

[@titaniumcommandrig]

Real

[@philipmagpantay1590]

Same

[@Trainer_Hareth]

Bro stop glazing Atomix he's at best maybe small country level there are so much more powerful aliens, like upchuck who casually ate a fucking dwarf star 💀.

[@aarontotspur353]

Is gravattack strong enough to even lift way big

[@g3nd1a69]

@@aarontotspur353 We’ve seen XLR8 create a tornado strong enough to briefly lift up a Way Bad, so it isn’t impossible. Gravattack can definitely lift Way Big since he manipulates gravity. Gravattack can also cancel out Way Big’s Cosmic Ray by having it orbit around him. If that doesn’t work, he could always just create a black hole and tie with Way Big.

[@domino8324]

Hey it's me the person who did the calculation for way Big on vsbattle wiki at 1:19. You should've also showcased Way Big's cosmic storm calculation that Kachon134 did on vsbattle where During one of the scenes in Ben 10 Ultimate Alien cosmic destruction we can see evil way big inside cosmic storm outside the Milky Way galaxy and that was calculated it solar system level 4-B.

[@Zeynal10]

Who is Ben's second most powerful transformation Way Big or Atomix? Alien X, because Ben's most powerful transformation is Walkatrout

[@mccharles1257]

@Zeynal10 I think the worst vs Walkatrout is the real discussion here.

[@Zeynal10]

@Gutyuyt nah. The Worst and Walkatrout beats him

[@pogggaming4470]

@@Zeynal10calm down buddy

[@MadeByFear]

nah the moustache guy solos fiction

[@aimanbshara7909]

bro i love the music in the background from cosmic destruction this gives me a good and nostalgic vibe

[@ZeroDim]

I honestly just always Assumed Way Big was Ben's second strongest because of how To'kustars are formed by Cosmic storms which irl only happen when two galaxy clusters collide and way big theoretically should be a hydrogen based being. So i just always assumed Universe alien > Star alien > Nuclear alien. Clockwork is kinda situational.

[@gokuvegeta9500]

I'd put Gravattack, Ultimate Echo Echo, Diamond Head also in the top 10

[@meshackmonari7145]

Watching this shit at 1 am instead of studying for an exam in a couple of hours 😂

[@Joan-jq5ho]

Yknow, ironically, I think people sometimes overlook Echo Echo's power, in theory depending on the frequency, anything can be vibrated

[@roganjoe7678]

Oh wow good vid i thought this was a big channel. Good production.

[@halftendedifiebf1741]

Glockwork or gravattack

[@troytab6089]

To me, I feel like Atomix is a shotgun, while Way Big is a hand grenade. They both serve a similar purpose - heavy destruction on nearby opponents. The hand grenade is undeniably more powerful, but there's also a lot more collateral damage. If you're in a city, or near allies, or if there's just anything nearby you don't want to destroy, use the shotgun. If you're in a big open area, with little chance for collateral damage, then you pull out the Hand Grenade. Way Big is more powerful, and faster, but smaller size, plus more precise attacks, plus flight, makes Atomix more useful in most situations. In terms of just, outright power though? It's Alien X, then Clockwork, then Way Big, then Atomix.

[@gokuvegeta9500]

You're forgetting Gravattack. He literally can make black holes

[@troytab6089]

@@gokuvegeta9500 I'm.. Not forgetting Gravattack? This video just isn't about him? Besides, black holes in Ben 10 aren't the same as black holes in real life. In real life, Gravattack's black holes would either instantly implode and do nothing, or they'd absorb the entire Earth in an instant. Black holes aren't as big a deal in Ben 10 in real life. Gravattack, as we see him, has potential to be stronger than Way Big maybe, but we never see him prove that. He is usually shown to be weaker than Atomix is by a good bit.

[@gokuvegeta9500]

@@troytab6089 So by your logic then Alien X recreating the universe is also not a big thing. And btw a black hole 🕳️ in the cartoon is the same as in real life just like the end of the universe is the same in real life as in the series. Whether you like it or not

[@henrymalloy1344]

in sheer power waybig has atomix beat but one advantage he has is being able to fly. flight makes dodging attacks easier, but dodging is the only way atomix could win.

[@phamtien3967]

If only they keeps ultimate Waybig, haiz

[@someoneindeed]

But Waybig is actually faster, even ignoring that ray, Way big has straight up been shown to have superspeed, when he ran around the city sized trash monster so fast that the wind created launched it into the sun

[@infinitytimer6245]

Considering To'kustar live in the vacuum of space I feel like normal way big can fly Ben just doesn't know how (kinda like with chromastone) or it's just another omnitrix bug.

[@yashJoshi-hn6bf]

@@someoneindeed It was due to uktimatrix glitch

[@yashJoshi-hn6bf]

Atomix just needs to attack on waybig fin & game over

[@pedrorodrigosilvacaldas7703]

Here in Brazil, this matchup was brought up a lot, at a point where the final conclusion ended up being that if Atomix statements where in fact correct, than Atomix would have a higher Raw power than Way Big, but Way Big would be able to resist Atomix long enough to Atomix stamina run out, giving Way Big the winner on a fight between the two. So the conclusion for us its either Atomix feats where over hyped and he dosent enter top, which Way Big reaching 3/2 place(Feedback absorving Big Bang make him in potetial the second strongest alien if he has a power source that can full him to reach those level), or that Atomix its really the second strongest but Ben 10 inexperience and Stamina drawbacks make him only able to use few attack on those levels and than starting losing power. But that just some conclusions we got, especially because its likely the chance the we got some info wrong in the translation(Example in a miss translation of the dub Ben said Fastrack was faster than XLR8, but that dialog never happened in the original, this one at least was point out and label as a dub error and its not considered anymore, but i still think its valid to point that out)

[@yashJoshi-hn6bf]

Atomix was able to give a good fight to malgax who has powers of malware who defeated waybig

[@pedrorodrigosilvacaldas7703]

@@yashJoshi-hn6bf Malware agaist Way Big was extra buffed than Malware Vilgax used, and Way Big defeat and Gigant Conqueros Vilgax, he can be stronger than Way Big if the statements are confirmed, but even than he would had major stamina problems, limiting him in longer fights

[@yashJoshi-hn6bf]

@@pedrorodrigosilvacaldas7703 There is no stamina problems though,he was tired because of ben fighting for whole day & using different aliens, the only weakness that atomix have is his overconfidence

[@pedrorodrigosilvacaldas7703]

@@yashJoshi-hn6bf Ben was not tired before fighting Malgax, and if that was the case than Ben with Vompire would had lose to Malgax, even with the Feedback Arms he got, Atomix its like SSJ3 of the omnitrix, highly powerfull, but tire out faster than many aliens, he still can be the second strongest alien if he its explored more, but until than he has lot of competition to even make top 5, and some major weakness that can make some aliens weaker than him be able to defeat him.

[@yashJoshi-hn6bf]

@@pedrorodrigosilvacaldas7703 I never said that he was tired before turning into atomix , before becoming atomix he fought by using ghostfreak then turned into diamond head , fought him, got thrown to galvan b , got crashed then turns into atomix & fights with malgax for rest of day , doing this much consumes a lot of energy, He was taking a deep breath when he was thrown into Max's ship (when he turned into ben), & we have seen ben getting exhausted by working too much in a day , similar thing happened to incursion invasion finale, bullfarg betrayed attea, ran with friends, get knock out by kevin , rescued max, turns into xlr8 , defeat waybad , turns into waybig fight with waybads get exhausted& takes deep breath while still being waybig.

[@misu73373]

malgax isn't just malware on vilgax, it's vilgax wearing a malware suit created by albedo

[@oldspike6549]

I'm glad you used Ultimate Alien Cosmic destruction Soundtracks

[@technomancer1352]

Way Big=Ultraman Atomix=Saiyan

[@millasboo]

0:18 Gravattack is just chopped liver huh?! Black hole?

[@mwsage8645]

Clockwork, feedback, Gravattack and ultimate Echo Echo are all up there too imo

[@ededdneddy4ever34]

It’s clockwork forsure. Feedback is after. Gravattack is in contention. Then waybig and atomix

[@someoneindeed]

exactly, these are my exact rankings

[@gigachad6885]

Waybig and atomix would just slap feedback around, and gravattack is only 3 IF he can immobilize waybig

[@someoneindeed]

@@gigachad6885 we're not saying who would beat who (although feedback would easily defeat atomix, he just absorbs his energy and it's over) but who's more powerful, feedback is more powerful because he can do more powerful things (like absorb the big bang), gravattack is only potentially 4th because he can potentially make a black hole

[@ededdneddy4ever34]

@@someoneindeed my point exactly^. Feedback could absorb anything way big throws at him and it’s a question of whether or not that’s enough to take him down. Gravattack making a black hole would pretty confidently kill way big. Atomix is beneath both of them. In terms of which aliens are stronger it’s these. If they win a direct 1 on 1 I’m more up in the air on. But that wasn’t the question of who’s stronger.

[@MrWhatdafuBOOM]

Imo: Alien X > Clockwork > Way Big > Atomix

[@umergulmuhammad9756]

Can you do these? Who is the Strongest? Four Arms Humungousaur Armadillo Who is the Fastest? XLR8 Fast Track Who is Better? Chromastone Feedback Who is Better? Shocksquatch Frankenstrike

[@pedrorodrigosilvacaldas7703]

@@umergulmuhammad9756 Strongest: Humungousar(He in base was able to pull Excalibur Rock while Four Arms could not), Four Arms its a better fighter and Luma who its weaker than Four Arms made a stronger earthquake than Armadilho. Fastest: XLR8, Fast Track its physically stronger, but XLR8 has better speed feats and more control of his speed. Feedback and Chromastone are way more diferent to a direct comparasion, but Feedback has highers levels of absortion on this regard, but Chromastone has way more power than Ben wasent explore yet(Like Magic). Shocksquad its the better of the Two, he could put up a decent fight agaist Looma.

[@potatomars2443]

@@pedrorodrigosilvacaldas7703 Chromastone seems to be able to absorb all sorts of energy like mana and electricity, whereas feedback is only an electric alien. Feedback did indeed absorb the universe, but i dont really think chromastone couldn't do the same as he did absorb blasts from the diagon which i think rules over many dimensions. Still I'd rather take chromastone.

[@gammaf1365]

@@potatomars2443Dagon's blasts shouldn't have the energy of a universe, even if he could overtake one. Chromastone's cap is somewhere not too below the Ledgerdomain, and there's an argument to be made about where does that scale compared to a universe; Feedback is stated to not have a cap tho.

[@gammaf1365]

Strongest: Humungosaur but Armodrillo has more attack potency. Fastest: XLR8. I personally think Chromastone is more consistent and versatile, but Feedback comes on top if he gets enough energy. I don't rlly know but i like Frankenstrike more heh

[@pedrorodrigosilvacaldas7703]

@@gammaf1365 I searched about this, its was said that Chromastone limit its 10 drawf stars, while feedback could hold Multiversal level if we its in a way that is possible for him to absorv the energy(Example he will not absorv a multiversal energy mana attack, but he could if it was a lighting attack)

[@rutushi5093]

Aayee the cosmic destruction osts brings back memories

[@Flamenco_Oscuro]

I’m so glad you made this video because it shines light that Atomix is incredibly overrated

[@FireArtVids21]

Especially since he doesn’t have many feats compared to Ben’s other aliens

[@Gro-Gorothhater]

That "Kevin could also lift alien X" Statement is super illogical, because alien X litterally could not move at all, even remotely at that point. If we scale them like that then I (me, myself, regular human( should be stronger than kevin levin because I can kill him in his sleep

[@njabulompembe442]

I agree

[@rgmoses2189]

1st Alien X 2nd Clockwork 3rd Feedback 4th Waybig 5th Atomix 6th Gravattack I've been out of the loop for too long to come up with a definitive top 10 off the top of my head so 6th onwards can be disputed but the top 4 are solid from feats and statements

[@potatomars2443]

Feedback is below Waybig. Waybig just picks him up and crushes him. It's also funny to me how NRG is probably the natural predator of Atomix. Waybig also beats clockwork due to higher reaction speed, speed, AP, DC, etc. Clockwork if he manages to use his time powers first then he wins.

[@gokuvegeta9500]

​@@potatomars2443 Because NRG has armour and loves radiation so Atomix is like candy to him

[@DJBurns-jq8mn]

The order of the top 10 strongest shown aliens is 1. Alien X (no explanation needed). 2. Clockwork. He fixed the erased Infinite Multiverse, which has Quantum Physics, String Theory and has being stated to has at least 26 dimensions making him Infinite 26D. 3. Chromastone. Despite some debatale inconsistent scaling, he absorbed Dagon's attacks, who destroys universes and has only ever been beaten by the Sword of Ascolon which tears holes in the fabric of reality, momentarily absorbed and took all the magic in Lederdomain (the home of Magic and Mana in Ben 10 and all its universes) at once before dieing and (with help from AlienX's dna to first create a tear) managed to forcefully push open the protective barrier (which was impossible to do as stated by the Contumelia themselves and had to be strong enough to handle the Annihilargh) so those fests put him near or at 26D though physically he is much weaker. 4. Feedback. Absorbed the Annihilarghs BigBang and fired it as well as the Omnitrix transformed Ben into him to survive it. But since the BigBang wasn't fully expanded and only just gone off it's hard to say if that makes Feedback Low 26D or higher, but he is definitely up in that range. 5. Gravattack. No where near as powerful as the ones above but he can create a Blackhole and can force time to stay still in a certain spot by increasing the gravity so much it becomes dense making him Solar System Level. 6. Waybig. Feats said in video 7. Heatblast. Has been stated to reach Super Nova temperatures at an infant state when passed off enough so a fully grown Heatblast can do that much easier making him Star - Dwarf Star level. 8. Atomix. Said in video. 9. Wampiar. Held his own against Malgax like Atomix but lasted a shorter amount of time before needing help so around the same as Atomix 10. Dimondhead. Was the only Alien (besides Waybig and Alien X) at the time to be able to beat Warlord Vilgax meaning he is implied to be above every other alien Ben used in Alien Force and in Ultimate Alien he match Ultimate Swampfires fireblasts with his projectile shards. Honorable mentions include: Upgrade. As he can control machines to which we don't know the limits of but he did upgrade Clockwork so there is some debate there. NRG. Is a living Nuclear radiation being, speaks for itself, but he needs to feed off radiation to become dangerous. Upchuck. As his pocket universe stomach can handle eating anything Anyone have anything else to say go on ahead.

[@FavourUtuedor-c2w]

I'll make atomix above heatblast

[@tarangatan8119]

Would really love to see a chromosome vs feedback 1v1

[@Silliously]

What rank is toepick?

[@DJBurns-jq8mn]

@@tarangatan8119 same

[@DJBurns-jq8mn]

@@FavourUtuedor-c2w fair

[@modageddon2742]

damn the music in this video is fire

[@potatomars2443]

Clock work is beating Way big probably if he immediately uses his time powers to freeze waybig, otherwise waybig is way too fast for him and would wipe him out. Way Big also for the same reason beats gravattack and the rest pose no real challenge to him as far as I remember, so yeah I guess he is the second best alien.

[@TheNightTyrant]

The thing is everything "VARIES". When someone says make a list of top 10 most powerful Ben 10 aliens or top 5. It goes "two ways". First "Physically" and second "Hax based". Physically going off of DJW's statement you could say yes, but Way big has shown better feats so Way Big based off of feats alone contradicts writers so he could be number 2. However Hax based, It's Clockwork. To me Clockwork using Time Hax and reversing back Multiversal erasure should be number 2. Actually I'm gonna make my own list of Top 6 Ben's aliens here. Physical + HAX both mixed: 1- Alien X (Can recreate universe and a universe in Ben 10 contains various concepts and domains such as Time stream, alternate universes and dimensions make it a single universe equivalent of a Multiverse). 2- Clockwork (Reversed Chronosapien time bomb which caused Multiversal damage,) 3- Feedback (Can absorb the Annhilarg, plus According to Duncan Rouleau Feedback can absorb Multiversal energy beams as long as they exist in an energy form) 4- Gravattack (Can create a Quasar with proper practice, which dwarfs Galaxies in size) 5- Way Big (Capable of busting planets, Outdid Conquest ray which destroyed Pluto. His Cosmic Storm was as big as a galaxy seen in Cosmic Destruction video game and calculated at vsbattle wiki at Solar System level) 6- Atomix (Physically one of the most strongest alien, capable of one shotting Ultimate forms and is often stated to be stronger than Way Big physically, however this lacks any on screen evidence. According to Duncan Rouleau Atomix can create a star and has already created a miniature sun in Omniverse during one of Ghostfreak episode) And then after than you could add aliens like Goop who held a planet together or Diamondhead who survived being punched to the moon without a scratch. Note: If you're a reboot fan like me and has studied feats of it's aliens "Theoretically" you could give Number 6 spot to Slapback and push Atomix to Number 7. Slapback becomes more durable, stronger and heavier/denser without even losing his agility with more clones he makes which is easy to do as all he needs to do as just fall on his back. According to Duncan Rouleau Slapback with enough clones can become as Dense as a black hole. people weight support their lifting strength for example Blue Wales in ocean supports their own body weight for movement. So Atomix even if he were to make a full fledge SUN against Slapback, Slapback would STILL TANK it and pushes his way forward with superior density and proceed to punch Atomix to death with his clones.

[@bbmthegreat2209]

Gravattack: "hold my beer"

[@Alastordadeer]

This shouldn’t be a debate in two ways, not only is way big>>atomix. But neither are top 2 contenders since clockwork and feedback exist. Feedback could absorb and take the energy of that same amped up malware and even force equivalent to a Big bang of higher dimensionality, since the contumelia which are 5D couldn’t interfere with it if they tried. They should be fighting for who is 4th or 5th

[@MacanthonySule]

Atomix was foreshadowed in classic when Ken tennyson was first given the omnitrix ( even toepick was foreshadowed)

[@JordanWilliams-o9r]

I just still have new information atomix has Star energy

[@Anomalous1879]

Good video the research is done well

[@Fig10-e3t]

Btw Both are at Least Multi Solar System Level

[@FireArtVids21]

@@Fig10-e3t you could scale Way big and ultimate way big much higher

[@arizzen8663]

Alien x Clock work Ultimate echo echo 🗿

[@Rezixxx]

Not a powerscaling comparison but just saying: Atomix one shotted 2 ultimates meanwhile Way Big casually knocked out 6 ultimates in one hit…there are levels to this game 🐐

[@Str4t1c]

Waybig was the first alien that i saw of ben when i was around 4-5. He's the reason why i watched ben 10 at all

[@almakaraj5039]

Bro ofc waybig has super speed because he lives in the vacume of space where even light needs bilions of years to move from star to star💀🙏

[@Gxllyy]

MC Charles the man stays on the W side,way big is the goat

[@marvel_weeb1741]

So... Am i only one who thinks it goes like this: Alien x Clockwork Feedback Ultimate waybig Atomic ?

[@MrWhatdafuBOOM]

Imo: Alien X > Clockwork > Way Big > Atomix

[@lightyagami5168]

Some of bens aliens have counter to his most powerful aliens. Clockwork counters atomix and waybig. Chromastone and diamondhead are kinda immune to attacks of clockwork. But eco eco can harm them. But atomix and waybig would squash eco eco.

[@Mahendra_Choudhary_M]

Upgrade's power is to upgrade It can turn a normal ball thrower into a monster, so upgrade Vilgax who already was a monster possibly can be stronger than the whole planet IDK who is stronger but the argument can still go on

[@colinbentley3984]

Why is Gravattack not in the argument? He made a black hole.

[@chineduachunine747]

Good analysis. Good video....❤

[@rileyowen7245]

Way big and heat blast 🤧 was og goat

[@conmanay4563]

We saw how clockwork vs waybig would go since Clockwork’s time rays matched Eon

[@gamemastery3532]

What about Ultimate Way Big vs clockwork or Dagon vs feedback or Alien x vs someone

[@AmitCinematicUniverse]

Given the technology in the room, Upgrade can surpass many aliens.

[@thegodofsaiyans535]

What about Feedback holding the Big Bang in his hand?

[@vishnukamihin1910]

Greatest Compare I ever see!! ❤🤟😉

[@nkyfong]

Makes sense that Waybig would be one of the strongest, considering he’s based on Ultraman. Ultraman’s scaling goes pretty crazy, and he’s one of the most iconic alien superheroes alongside Superman (who he has a few similarities to personality wise).

[@KeanuEugene]

Honestly I'd say Waybig has the most base stats, AKA strength, durability, endurance, energy projection, etc. Overall than any other transformation short of Alien X, but the other 2nd place contenders just have better hax. Atleast until he gets a bit older and fully controls the cosmic energy Waybig has, as Albedo showed in one of the canon games that he can legit fly through the universe, survive without food, water, or air, and manifest cosmic storms. But Clockwork and Gravitack have better Hax for now, Atomix really doesn't do anything that waybig can't do but worse, aside from making contained energy sources, for now.

[@shawnlord3419]

Kinda surprised you never brought up atomic statement from Duncan stating he can make a star sized sun which would align with his abilities in cannon. As for the malgax thing, he was pretty confident in taking out any of Ben’s aliens which would include waybig. So him being stronger then the giant malware isn’t unfounded

[@revolverkyosuke7049]

"Confident in taking down any of Ben's aliens" I would love to see what he can do against Alien X. Jokes aside, confidence one thing. Being able to back it up is another. Start of AF S3, Vilgax seemingly had no plans for Way Big (other than perhaps hoping Ben misstransforms) yet still challenged Ben. I don't think he would have beaten Way Big here.

[@yashJoshi-hn6bf]

@@revolverkyosuke7049 Actually he misrembers it, malgax said that none of Ben's previous aliens would stand against him including waybig & we saw what malware did to waybig

[@yashJoshi-hn6bf]

Yeah, agreed you are the only person in this comments who is supporting atomix

[@shawnlord3419]

@@revolverkyosuke7049 considering the sun statement I don’t see why he wouldn’t have been able to beat waybig

[@alzetilted33]

"a star sized sun" is the equivalent of "This floor is made out of floor"

[@shadow_kin2047]

Funny thing is that Big Chill is actually Ben’s third after Clockwork(apparently he froze over the Null Void

[@infinitytimer6245]

He freezes a big machine IN the null void not the entire dimension.

[@kristelvidhi5038]

Malgax then moped the floor with Atomix, even though Atomix defeated Ultimate Albedo with ease.

[@Fulminoxk]

Wether you like it or not, OV Vilgax has got BOTH the cyber enchancements from Classic and the power of Champions from UAF and even has his own enchancements

[@Kaiden._.Noodlez]

Here’s my top 5 for Ben’s strongest aliens: 1.) Alien X (obviously) 2.) Clockwork 3.) Feedback 4.) Gravattack 5.) Way Big/Ultimate Way Big

[@XN24-t9b]

Well just look at it logically instead of powerscaling, you want strength and absolute physical power? Way big. You want to throw a sun at your enemy and give them radiation poisoning? Atomix. Imo clockwork is second most powerful and almost unfair cuz time manipulate.

[@yashJoshi-hn6bf]

I think that atomix is 2nd because of writers statement & also matter & nuclear manipulation

[@alleywaydude399]

Second strongest us probably Feedback who could contain the rnergy of the annihilarg and is more or less trrated as bens favorite alien or his la crème de la crème whereas alien x is gus last resort. Theres also arguments for the crystal guy who has the power of a celestiosapian, eveb if it is only a little.

[@silvertongue.242_99]

I think way big and atomix level of power are close because shoeing with ultimate humongsaur. Just way big have more feats snd wish we got more of atmoix

[@blazeneon5701]

We all know his 2nd power house was ultimate echo echo duh so strong they had to nerf him when giving him to Albado and make sure Ben never used him again

[@baconlord2545]

I’d like to add Alien X is completely weightless. Things like mass or weight are basically nonissues for Celestialsapiens after all. While Waybig has a calculated weight which ultimate Humongousaur and full powered Humongousaur can lift. So based on that in terms of strength Atomix wins. Although in terms of energy and speed it’s Waybig. His species is born from cosmic storms after all and we got the trash monster episode and the other Waybig from the game that crossed intergalactic distances in a matter of a few weeks In terms of stamina it goes to Atomix. As he can generate his own energy. In terms of abilities it’s Atomix.

[@sandalio6464]

3:13 atomix is an artifficial alien created by azmuth

[@wayneborg6728]

Atomix is capable of one shotting Ultimate Humungousaur who can hold his own against Ultimate Kevin who has 1/10 of Way Big's power plus 1/10 of every alien Ben had around that time plus the full power of Ultimate Aggregor Scaling towards Maglax is impressive as Ben after losing with Atomix didn't think he could beat him to which Vilgax also agreed upon which means Atomix would upscale Ball Weevil's strongest plasma balls which can one shot Way Bads who scale towards Way Big in the Frogs of War episode

[@lukebolognone4102]

Perfect video

[@Ultimate_scaler]

Clock work is stronger than way big cause he has stronger hax But if both fought each other, idk , cause waybig has higher advantage like super speed , combat , strength, attack potency But clock work has higher D C , hax

[@dwightnorton3398]

Nice job

[@someoneindeed]

Way big is Ben's 4th or ~maybe~ 5th most powerful alien, and atomix is 5th or 6th

[@yashJoshi-hn6bf]

Atomix is 2nd

[@rifarira9160]

If waybig retain the true power of ultraman, which is gaining the power necessary to win when needed thru the light of hope and bond, then way should make it up there.

[@muhammedgezer3915]

? You guys have feedback at 1 or smt since you talking about #2 being clockwork/atomix/way big etc.

[@zyella277]

I dont think feedback is at all on lvl of waybig But bens number 1 Alien is, Alien x no questions asked. cause alien x is with him having full control since omniverse he can for all intens and purposes do anything Alien x is as close as being God/omnipotent can practicly be for a celestial sapien like alien x , recreating an entire universe s such a non issue/effort even though was against their rules/laws, the punishement wouldve been just like equivalnt of like 5 dollar fine for ben/humans

[@muhammedgezer3915]

@@zyella277 Feedback quite literally absorbed annialargh and used it to attack. Unmatched

[@amethystguy65]

I think atomix can only let out so much radiation without destroying his surroundings limiting his strength as he always has to hold back massively

[@JaymerFIll]

Im convinced that way big is the 3rd strongest

[@Plushall]

Great vid man

[@bestdadoftheyear7181]

I do feel like atomix's power also haven't been shown to it's max due to the fact that, you know....he can just explode or turn everything into a nucular wasteland

[@Pinnacle12345]

Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

[@henrymalloy1344]

annihilarg versus hydrogen bomb

[@yashJoshi-hn6bf]

Chronosapien time bomb vs anihilarg

[@CaptainCoolGuy-xyz]

It's Atomix. He's the nuclear winner. Also he's only appeared in one series and Atomix has only been in one.

[@SinisterRachelHater]

hot take feedback is the second strongest

[@reddragon4176]

Didn't even realize you were a small channel with under 1000 subscribers.

[@Victorystoneworthy]

Great video, please do a sequel

[@myvlog5112]

Everyone is sleeping on Topick and Ghostfreak. Like ghostfreak can control Waybig and Atomix from the inside and kill them from the inside🥱.

[@shroomer8294]

Atomix could just use the light of radiation Against ghostfreak

[@myvlog5112]

@@shroomer8294 Ghostfreak can go intangible and still control atomix

[@mapleapple2838]

​@@myvlog5112He defeated an evil version of ghost freak and a vampire with that method. What makes you think that's gonna work?

[@halftendedifiebf1741]

I think clockwork vs gravattack would be the second Most powerfull aliens

[@someoneindeed]

Gravattack isn't really in the running for second that's definitely clockwork, and feedback is almost definitely third but I'd definitely say he's in the running for 4th

[@yashJoshi-hn6bf]

But again none stands a chance against atomix

[@someoneindeed]

@@yashJoshi-hn6bf clockwork can literally control time and is the second most powerful alien, atomix is nothing to him

[@yashJoshi-hn6bf]

@@someoneindeed Atomix can create infinite amount of matter casually & use it to melt clockwork,he is also way faster than clockwork.

[@someoneindeed]

@@yashJoshi-hn6bf he absolutely can not do that, and even if he's faster he wouldn't be able to do anything if time is frozen, and atomix isn't fast at all

[@NotKirbo]

What about NRG and feedback??

[@silvertongue.242_99]

I was sure vilgax in Omniverse still was as strong as the ultimate alien and alien force level of power. Especially the cybernetic ones like base in Omniverse

[@SpoonAtNoon]

So if you use feats, Waybig Wins, but counting in Atomix’s design and the fact that he had to suppress his power, he is SUPPOSE to be the Second strongest Alien he has, we just haven’t seen him enough.

[@yashJoshi-hn6bf]

Also he gave tough fight to malgax who stated that none of previous aliens can stand against him including waybig

[@andrejburzanovic6246]

Have you forgot feedback? He's easily one of Ben's most powerfull aliens, I definitely think that he's a contender for Ben's 2nd most powerfull alien, he was fast and strong enough to contain and redirect the big bang which is easily universal level feat if not more considering how crazy ben then un/cosmology is and clockwork was able to destroy infinite Multiverse as stated in the show

[@zyella277]

The big bang thing was afetr him shifting through basicly all his transformations though, each doing their part it wasnt juust feedback

[@andrejburzanovic6246]

@@zyella277 nope it was omnitrix shuffling through all of his aliens with failsafe and then choosing feedback as the best choice and feedback proceeded to absorb it and redirect it, we know that he is capable of that cuz I'm pretty sure one of the creators confirmed that feedback could absorb celestialsapien attacks or something

[@Skitations]

@@andrejburzanovic6246alright that’s a bs statement that completely contradicts Celestialsapiens being complete omnipotent (within the context of Ben 10) gods above literally everything else. Any statement downplaying Celestialsapiens makes no sense.

[@tarangatan8119]

​@@andrejburzanovic6246alien X would be the obvious best choice, not feedback, and Ben gained full control of him a few episodes earlier, so the Ben needs belicus and Serena argument wouldn't work

[@annec4626]

You might want to ask kuro from the KZbin channel ink tank to see if your correct?

[@Denva304]

What about ultimate way big vs AtomicX

[@silvertongue.242_99]

Did malware absorb the glavanic mechamporphs i don't remember that. I thought he killed or corrupt them

[@rabootisthegoat]

You should do Mao Mao vs Puss in boots