Brighter Shores | First Impressions: The Next Runescape?

[@zachpower2774]

I've been enjoying the hell out of this game. Its a rough grind, with not enough "early game" quests to fuel the grind. I found your channel when you started covering RS3, so I would love to see your thoughts on the rest of the game. Thanks for the great content.

[@gatorbait9385]

Ive put in almost 200 hours since launch and I can safely say this is the game ive been looking for over the last 20 years of playing almost every MMO. My first 500 is YEARS away, but im here for it.

[@Waydots]

Nice man glad your enjoying it :)

[@MrLaeddis1]

There is a setting to lock the camera to center on the player. The setting was added post launch.

[@GLPentAxel]

The sense spell can be used by hitting spacebar, it just shows you any interactable objects in your chunk, pretty helpful every now and then.

[@rob2533]

helps to use the spell when stepping in a new room to highlight the items

[@oots4790]

The thing that makes this game so exciting to me, is knowing its development is in good hands. No worries about store skins, xp boosts, direct level buying, limited time FOMO events, energy systems designed to make you buy more energy to keep playing, no pop ups on screen tempting me to throw away money at the new expensive item EVERY TIME I LOG IN. NOTHING aggregious or greedy about Brighter Shores, and I can confidently say there never will be. The Gower brothers have openly talked about how much they regret selling Runescape. They have their wealth, now they can make a game they're passionate about, with a focused on not making the same mistakes. It's just a traditional gaming experience with a low entry, reasonably priced monthly subscription being all you need to sink thousands of hours into the game. Genuinely I cannot be happier, and am so excited to play a game where the focus isn't just about how much money they can literally suck out of my bloodstream.

[@SimonRobeyns]

there's no micro transactions for now. there's just episode paywalls and an endless grind loop which pretty much leads to nothing rewarding. After 100 hours, I dropped it and I might come back in a few months/years when they decide to put 'fun' in the game or any content that doesn't feel punishing for playing.

[@oots4790]

@SimonRobeyns There shouldnt ever be microtransations, the devs have been outspoken enough about that, and we should be able to trust them on it. Honestly though coming back in a while 100% a great option. This is the worst state the game will ever be in, which speaks to how good it is because it's far from awful, but if its not enough for ya. give it time to cook and come back in 6 months to a year and see if it suits ya better, itll look quite different and is hopefully more to your liking!

[@SimonRobeyns]

@@oots4790 I really hope so, I was a massive fan of runescape when I was 12, as it really seemed to suck you into an actual mmo world. This game feels like a afk mobile game in its current state. After grinding to 20 upwards, the most satisfying thing you unlock is being able to level afk, without punishing yourself clicking nodes for hours. That can't really be what the game is all about right.

[@MrSlayer95]

@@SimonRobeynsagreed the game is overall pretty boring and the combat is insanely simple/boring.

[@gek1143]

"No limited time FOMO events". May i introduce you to the christmas event?

[@baftnationgaming]

im seriously hooked to this game, deffo hopeful for the future!

[@JuliaSin]

This game looks awesome cant wait to play! But waydot thank you!! My poor niece hasnt felt well and couldnt sleep, she came into my room to snuggle, i was watching this video, and she said she likes your voice. She fell asleep after almost two days so thank you for your asmr voice!❤

[@Waydots]

Aww thanks so much for commenting and letting me know, I hope she feels better soon

[@JuliaSin]

@Waydots shes feeling better today. She now wants to watch more of your videos :) so thanks again

[@kristinakaz3737]

“Make shafts, rods, and other phallic objects” XD

[@Ladywizard]

which you need a ton of for the THREE weaponsmith skills in episode 3 (yes each weaponsmith is only for one class but you have to level all 3 for quests)

[@magoog9864]

Im only 4 minutes in but you can fix the camera settings to always center on your character The sense spell is really useful. It lets you know what can be interacted with on a map. If you finish fishing in a room, then hitting sense will make it easy to see when the fish start spawning again

[@ThatDudeWeird]

babe wake up, new Waydot video just dropped!

[@xjbar5109]

FYI the sense spell will highlight notable objects in the room u are in. So when you need to discover new things in a room press spacebar or the sense button to see everything u can interact with/discover :)

[@Waydots]

Oh thanks! good to know.

[@JordShores]

defo want to see more, unlike other youtubers you didnt go into it comparing it to runescape every 30 seconds which is finally nice to see in a review.

[@mrsatan2229]

Been a runescape player since 2001, I just hit lv 200 on Brighter shores today, and I'm loving it. Its a very grindy game, but if that's the kind of game you're looking for it has an amazing opportunity for growth.

[@yourguysheppy]

I'd be interested to see you cover The Black Grimoire Cursebreaker, it's basically a single player version of Runescape but you can see other players running around. You can't interact with them other than chatting, though, it's purely social

[@bobojangles7363]

I have been addicted to this game... the QoL updates coming in fast. I have truly enjoyed this at 200ish hours played. Just hit 207 minefighter last night.

[@rob2533]

2:10 In graphic setting toggle "Camera: Center on player"

[@sora8711]

There's a lot of people hating on the game in the comments, but I'd actually love to see more. I've been playing since the game came out, I tried getting friends into it and like many others they didn't like it and quit, but I kept playing. It's a very divisive game, you either love it or don't and that's fine. If you do plan to play more I think it's worth trying out Episode 3 and 4. Even if it's just for a month and if it ends up not being your kind of game. Edit: You actually already got past the major hurdle that is unlocking Storage Rifts, so now when you do anything anywhere it should be a lot more cozy. There's something charming about just turning your brain off, getting a full inv of ore in episode 3 and banking it at the storage right nearby. The crafting rooms are usually always chatty because why not, everyone's in a room all grinding the same stuff so might as well strike up some conversations. If you're not a fan of combat at the moment I think that's more than fine, you don't really need to grind hard at it to beat the main story and Andrew stated he's already working on Special Attacks and the like so that might make combat much more enjoyable.

[@camm6]

I am also addicted to this game lol. Would love more content on it!

[@slurms777]

626 total level and absolutely loving this game.

[@RSHijinxYTC]

Would love the next part, been waiting for the review! I am biased though, I love this game

[@gameboyjsa]

subbed didnt even notice there was a gender and not body type option good pointing out. I made my character on release and was eager to get into it

[@nintendawgs7388]

Not bad for an indie MMO in early access 👍

[@sethischosen4338]

Please please please do more episodes. I love this shit, such a fun game that feels so much like I did as a kid, and now the grind will continue :D

[@nickchapple8065]

I love the game. Over 100 hours in so far and enjoy every second.

[@ThisIsMyYouTubeAccount1]

I will like this video, and request that you make a "part 2" to this.

[@StrissYT]

Keep playing

[@samplautz5586]

If you haven’t gotten to Crenopolis yet, you need to keep playing. All 4 skills are amazing, they build off of one another, and it’s a great time. Trust me, it’s the most complete part of the game and feels like OSRS

[@Jimmyisabot]

Been a fan of your content since the days you were trying RS3 Ironman! Been playing and making content for this game like crazy, I'm definitely hooked but this game has a lot of ways to improve, definitely bullish on the Gower brothers long term :)

[@jamoore2581]

I was like number 420. 🤙🖖💨😶‍🌫️

[@runescapejagex1417]

Would like to see more!💪🏼

[@1512125]

They definitely have a good base to work with, now they just need to make it good, you know?

[@angryitalian3430]

Aye m8, check the settings, you can center your camera on your character lol.

[@RandyLahey33]

I’m sitting at 229 hrs and still having a great time. This game definitely seems to be one of those where you love it or you hate it though, not much in between. It is definitely for me tho 🤣

[@Seraph_Saint]

I never played Runescape, but I've really enjoyed Brighter Shores so far!

[@kaievoke]

Same

[@johno4377]

Runescape is x100 better imo

[@ayochill9716]

Needs to come to mobile like OSRS to compete

[@Waydots]

Yeah that would be huge.

[@ayochill9716]

Yeah I play 50% of my RuneScape account on mobile now, it would help a lot of people get into the game

[@ThatDudeWeird]

I want to try it but it won't run on my pc. Big sad

[@angryitalian3430]

The game was originally designed with one-click functionality anyway so it wouldn't be hard to port. I'm betting that's on their roadmap already, just not rushing to other platforms before they finish the game.

[@SimonRobeyns]

I saw a video to play this on mobile already this game (looking like mafia mobile adds) seems made for mobile for sure specially seeing how simplistic and dull the combat is

[@Hytekdk]

I never could see the appeal of RuneScape so this definitely isn't a game for me. Thanks for clearing that up 👍😊

[@danhealy79]

I can respect what they're going for here but this game is NOT for me. Thanks for the vid, though

[@angryitalian3430]

@@danhealy79 RuneScape isn't for everyone. 🤷‍♂️

[@JUBMANlA]

I second this. I already know that the game isn't for me but I wanted to watch Waydot's video all the same.

[@blazeendo3282]

Not our fault your too much of a lazy ass or mental fortitude to handle this game

[@rePAULsion]

Why does the 90 day pass cost more than 3x passes of 30 days?

[@AnthonyAPs]

idk maybe its a good time to exploit it maybe games mess up on pricing sometimes

[@sebastiancabrera8416]

yeahh more!!

[@sleekantonio1990]

I don’t know how you lasted more than 3 hours

[@TheHanStudios]

I saw someone with your name (Waydot) in game at the Chef area on the first day, but I wasn't sure if that was you or not. They never responded when I said hi. lol

[@Waydots]

my name in game is "waybot" with a b, so couldn't have been me. I also wasn't playing day one

[@Zenopeltis]

Also saw them on the Carp grind. Didn't say hi, but loved seeing the name as a video might have been incoming.

[@MagiaErebea028]

hammer bros

[@ImmaSpork]

I love it

[@omegahaxors9-11]

A common misconception is that the game is slow. The assumption that skills slow down at later levels is not actually true: levels come in at a flat rate. At 150 knowledge points (lamps) start to drop off but the xp you get for active/passive methods speed up, so it balances out. The reason the levels cap at 500 is because there isn't really the oppressive level curve that runescape has, it's a lot flatter and the xp rate from doing level-appropriate content scales to match it. Game has only been out for a week and someone's already got 500 guard.

[@darscer5682]

What happened to the other video?

[@MrMBooger]

New Waydot?!

[@purest4233]

damn looks like they made this back when they created runescape too

[@CoatedIngoo]

Thanks for this! Been wanting to try Runescape for the depth, but ngl, the graphics put me off :( Brighter Shores looks like it'll tick both boxes for me :)

[@adrian-q8r]

I see this game getting a revamp in the next year or so.

[@BackFireZz]

Yeah for sure, I think its gonna be awesome in due time.

[@TheOnlyBeeje]

So far, even though they're killing it with the updates, I find this to be moreso of a casual gathering simulator than full on RuneScape. The combat is flawed, and as far as I've played there's no real MMO content, bosses, etc. If that content exists, why do I have to play for 10 hours to access it? It just needs to be finished. Good effort, just needs more.

[@MrDannio56]

I was wondering when you would get around to trying the game. Personally I have been having a lot of fun with the game. I have finished all the story quests and working on the side quests for each area now as each give me a goal to work towards in specific professions. I would love to see you progress further, I feel you'll like Crenopolis (Episode 4)

[@darscer5682]

he already released a video shitting on it, and then deleted and made a new one...

[@EricFaries]

The tuning system seems super redundant, and an unneeded step. Just let me walk around with my gear, i don't want to stop to tune everything every time i go from area to area.

[@Waydots]

I completely agree

[@muchomango496]

You can tune any untuned weapon in any other Episode and use it there instead of the zone you found it in, so it does have a purpose.

[@davidburns8310]

Hey guard man leave them crows alone.

[@Mattykingg]

I stick with osrs

[@olfan92]

Runescape from Wish

[@crimson98516]

My criticisms of the game so far: 1. Skilling fills grindier than runescape, having to click on everything 2. I don't know if it's just me but the world design looking like rooms makes the places feel smaller

[@Waydots]

It definitely is grindier than runescape which is insanity. And i hear ya on the rooms

[@sora8711]

@@Waydots It's actually a little more complex than that. Brighter Shores has 2 major milestones that completely change the exp formula. 20, so 1-19 is really fast. 20 will be your first major change and you *feel* it. And then later again at 200. A lot of people consider hitting 200 to be hitting a 99 in runescape while 500 is going for 200m exp. Now, the interesting thing is every level from 20 to 200 assuming you always stick to the highest thing you just unlocked should always take you roughly the same amount of time, so 79 won't be that much longer than say 33. Whereas in Runescape you *definetly* feel some levels slow down to a crawl, mostly because of never unlocking a better method. Like with Mining, oh boy you hit 55 mining, you can mine Mithril now! You won't. Nobody does. Even people in their 90's will still be mining the Iron Rocks they unlocked at level 15.

[@Soulboundwater]

I really wanted to like this game, after thousands of hours in Runescape, I just could not get into this. I'm sure the professions mesh together eventually, but I couldn't see the bigger picture and felt a massive disconnect between zones / skills. I'm sure given enough time ( and at the rate they're updating the game, probably not a long time) this will become a solid cozy mmo to revisit.

[@angryitalian3430]

You honestly just didn't play long enough, there's a reason he said at the end he was addicted. It's that same hook as RuneScape, just gotta commit.

[@SuperYtc1]

Why can’t you just be honest and say it’s shit.

[@SuperYtc1]

@@angryitalian3430complete rubbish. You just have sunk cost.

[@angryitalian3430]

@@SuperYtc1 I wouldn't have sunk cost if I didn't want to. I'm not a child like you probably are, I value my time. And Brighter Shores is a great game that's replacing RuneScape for me. I'm sorry you lack the brain cells to enjoy it I guess?

[@SimonRobeyns]

@@angryitalian3430 If you value your time, the last thing you'd do is play either OSRS or BS.

[@bmobmo9384]

I've played for about 20 hours. Resetting skills in each episode is an awful design. By episode 3, I was tired of grinding the same skills repeatedly and really just don't feel like continuing Inventory management is awful There is no social aspect The chunks are fine, but I feel like I'm just in a giant dungeon and it really doesn't flow great

[@rov3gaming46]

The pay wall hurts to see, maybe let us earn it in game even if its for a ridiculous amount of ingame money to earn better ways to skill

[@uncle_pump]

If it wasn't for the puzzle piece world ide probably try it but the design completely kills the immersion.

[@Oxy80111]

Im always down for more Waydot BS... Another Brighter Shores video would be good too.

[@Waydots]

Nice

[@MagiaErebea028]

i hated the game at first now im addicted. I was like Andrew my man.....what are you doing? but yea now im in

[@Waydots]

Yeah, same here.

[@7kortos7]

the item tuning is actually what killed the game for me.

[@aries999]

"The Next Runescape?" I think for Brighter Shores to be its own game it has to shed the community preconceptions about it being Neu Runescape. That's gonna be rough when a lot of the game marketing is built on the name of the Gower brothers. But unfortunately I do think that BS has no future. Not because the gameplay has pain points that will inevitably be addressed but because... nobody young is getting hooked on it. In a generation of games where you immediately get in and play, with work earning you cosmetics instead of numbers that let you farm green fish instead of blue, we're seeing this kind of game design start to get phased out.

[@SimonRobeyns]

I kind of agree. In RS back in the day people could have fun playing with their friends, even in F2P, here there's no MMO elements/actual fun or interaction with anyone and just boring grinding for now. I don't see anyone except for even a niche percentage of OSRS fans and of course the d-riding Gower fanboys really play this for an extended period of time.

[@13_faces]

I mean, young people don't play OSRS either and yet it's one of the biggest mmos out there to this day.

[@MortarNMetal]

Quit playing after episode 4, just isn't for me.

[@thomashynes-z2w]

gone from 22k players to 3k all who quit saying same thing i like the game but its 2 much of a grind it even makes runescape look like ez game to 99 1 skill atm to 500 is more then 4 to 99 on RuneScape lol

[@Pikawarps]

I don’t know if i can convince myself to give it a try, too nostalgic and might drag me back into RuneScape

[@Waydots]

Would that be such a bad thing?!

[@Envy188]

played it for few hours, but i didnot find the fun, where is fun?

[@GamerMeojs]

yea same, was booring as hell

[@angryitalian3430]

Numbers go up, unlock new stuff... It's RuneScape lmfao.

[@SuperYtc1]

@@angryitalian3430it’s nothing like RuneScape and nowhere near as good.

[@Ignas_]

@@angryitalian3430 But it's not new stuff, it's the same stuff with a different color

[@angryitalian3430]

@@Ignas_ you're right because RuneScape definitely doesn't have that. Definitely not like 8 different types of ore that turns into 8 generic colors of armour. 😂

[@DBProds96]

Tell you what, you can tell the early RS trio worked on this. The dialogue is horrendous, really needs a proper pass.

[@John.Doe.A.D33R]

if there is no MTX, 🌈, Bots & market manipulators.... It's a definite WIN against Runescape. I rest my case. 💯

[@ck3837]

No pronouns 😤😤😤😤 get me this game

[@ImZyker]

hot garbage but to each their own boys

[@CrusaderGamin]

if you liked runescape you'll like this. but for everyone else i dont think this looks fun. grinding hrs for fishing? grinding weird random skills just to do the quests? definitely not something i would ever play. graphics aren't really an improvement from runesacpe, you might as well just keep playing runescape. also not being able to use swords/items in different areas is just strange. and then a paywall to even play the game. would never even consider playing this game or watching another video of it. boring grind. weapons/gear basically disappearing every single area. paywall after tons of grinding. terrible game.

[@Ignas_]

I like OSRS, but I didn't like this. In RuneScape, you have a vast variety of options, you unlock new areas, places and methods to skill. I think RuneScape is a game of logistics and optimization, whereas in BS everything is already pre-optimized for you (small maps, only 1-2 places to do any particular activity, etc.) and everything is just about grinding. And the progress in RuneScape is persistent - I level up and I can fight dragons, or I can go back and absolutely demolish goblins. The goblins don't just become world-class threats because you level up your combat level.

[@coacohover]

just watching people play this game is boring. my developer friend made a fan project of osrs called WORS its basicly the what if wow made oldschool runescape.

[@xirogs]

This game so bad. Clustered zones click intensive skills bad movement and combat. Rsc had better mechanics.

[@iiTheOneAboveAll]

bra andrew basically stole the whole idea from runescape lmao

[@Waydots]

I.. uh.. Andrew MADE the idea for Runescape

[@nicholass.4224]

If you are not trolling then you are the biggest retard zoomer ive ever seen

[@sheldoncm]

First! 😀

[@brrian]

itll be a flop but kudos for them for trying, everything being instances blows

[@angryitalian3430]

@@brrian retard alert.

[@meeko45543]

yikes

[@ryuno2097]

hmmm... monthly sub for a EA mmorpg? I'll wait until the game goes full release before i'm spending any money.

[@SimonRobeyns]

Its kind of worth it, in a weird sense. Since playing without episode 3 and 4 is beyond bland and boring. There's not even that much content even with episode 3 and 4, but I would hate it a lot more with limited access. It's good to play for a few weeks and then drop for the time being, as you will burn out on playing very quick. There's very little incentive to play and no rewarding feeling for doing much. At some point you just feel like everything is a slog and a giant waste of your time instead of fun.

[@FlamespeedyAMV]

meh, boring.

[@imthemanofsteel3091]

its a very bad game lol. Im sorry, but this isnt 2005. like. Thats where this game belongs. They should have just done a spirtual sequel to runescape. A modern one. SO SO many weird choices that just ruin the game and are flat out unfixable. Like the tile system and the "rooms". Its like an updated dungeoneering. If this was the new dungeoneering, id think its cool lol. But as its own stand alone game? wtf

[@rePAULsion]

so you wanted them to make Runescape 3 but not have it be receive poor reception?

[@imthemanofsteel3091]

@@rePAULsion I am a little confused, but if you mean do runescape 3 right, yes. WIth all the same design philosphy of rs2. Skill, trading, no perm classes, a dangerous wilderness with pvp. all of that. But in a modern package. Remove the tile system, remove the horrible tick rate, give us diablo style movment, so on

[@GhostRare3]

Does it have Pronouns?

[@lumenadev]

perhaps even adjectives and verbs