WC3 - [UD] Happy vs Fortitude [HU] - LB Final - Warcraft 3 All-Star League - S1 - M3

[@niuage]

I'm starting to think I enjoy watching high level War 3 more than SC2...

[@zukunftverstehen]

This is so obvious! SC1 is more enjoyable even than SC2!

[@niuage]

@@zukunftverstehen Yea, these days I pretty much just watch ASL. But overall I watched more SC2 I think.

[@Олесь_Лютий]

This all games are great

[@RiffandRoll.]

W3 is more unpredictable, the little luck factor of items and non-fixed attack damage makes it more enjoyable

[@timurradman3999]

Welcome to the club

[@Manwu5]

Amazing series watched it live.... Can't thank you enough for this kind of content.

[@Blake5467]

Amazing job Fortitude, I never thought I'd see Happy not going to a grand Final. I'm very impressed

[@kevjun252]

Watched this last night and it's still entertaining the second time around

[@Khadgars123]

What a great series, WC3 is in great shape 20+ years in love it!

[@stefanocioni2587]

this was so epic i had to come back to watch the final game again... wow high level gg boys

[@SgtBrutalisk]

1:28:15 Watch Fiends. There is a bug with how they behave when told to move-attack (target the nearest enemy). When they see an unwebbed enemy air unit, instead of attacking an available enemy they will try to approach and web it instead. That's why Fiends were stumbling over themselves. Lesson: when playing with air units vs Fiends, position your air units over buildings and in other places that will bug out and expose Fiends.

[@lachezarvalentinov8751]

Nice observation

[@nightyonetwothree]

I want see happy hum vs forti ud. Or lyn ud vs Happy orc. Would be nice to get back reverse race tournaments.

[@nathanouellet1253]

Lets go!!! Ty for uploading.

[@Wespid]

The king is fell down.

[@statspro2561]

Spoiler

[@phineasgage8252]

@@statspro2561 Well dont read the comments if u dont want spoilers lol

[@statspro2561]

@@phineasgage8252 thx, Nice advice

[@joaokronbauer6638]

i like that new lil window information of DMG

[@bigben9463]

Thx for this incredible cast guys

[@nightyonetwothree]

Warcraft 3 All-Star League - S1 - M3 statistics (qualifiers, groups and playoffs): ORC-vs-UD is 75% winrate. if we exclude Happy - it's 0% winrate for all other undeads combined. ZERO maps taken by all ud (both in qualifiers and groupstage (none get to playoffs), excluding Happy) vs all orc. The only Ud who win some maps is Happy... HUM-vs-UD is 56.7% winrate total, if we exclude Happy => it's 76.5% vs 23.5% - it's even worse than w3champions 66% human-vs-ud (2200+mrr). So human won 76.5% maps, and 85.7% of sets. Both laby and 120 has 0% vs human. NE-vs-UD is 100% (only qualifiers, as no ud-ne matched in qualifiers and none of the get out of the groups) but UD aren't the only race who suck at this tourney - elves also suffer: Human-vs-NE is 72.2% vs 27.8%. ORC-vs-NE is 57.1% vs 42.9%. And b2w like to cast this imbalance like it's OK and even ud have advantage :facepalm: it's looks like they just try to hype matches vs Happy and place star on them, while in reality it's just one man fighting the world, sticks vs tanks

[@nightyonetwothree]

For those who think it's only one tourney, i get some extra info - previous All-Star league - S1 - M2 statistics (qualifiers, groups and playoffs): Human 43% vs 57% UD (all); (Happy didnt match vs any human player) Fun fact: both 120 and laby won blade 2:0 in groups, while in last tourney they both lose 2-0 to him in group. Blade become somehow unstoppable vs ud (maybe start summon water elementals) or just top 2-3 ud both lose all their skill (also Happy lose to humans a lot)... Orc 52.4% vs 47.6% UD (all); Happy's personal record is 10:3 (76.9%); If we exclude Happy -> Orcs 8:0 (100%) vs all other ud. Same story as last month, yeah? NE 42.1% vs 57.9% UD (all); Excluding Happy -> 46.7% vs 53.3%. Also about elves: Hum 65% vs 35% NE; Also looks pretty similar to the last tourney, yeah? Orc 47.4% vs 52.6% NE;

[@nightyonetwothree]

For those who think it's only 2 (two) last tournes, i get some extra info - previous All-Star league - S1 - M1 statistics (qualifiers, groups and playoffs): Human 57.9% vs 42.1% UD (all); Happy's record 6:6 (50%) -> excluding him gives us Human 71.4% vs 28.6% UD. Looks pretty the same, constantly human oblitirate ud (if it's not Happy). Orc 57.1% vs 42.9% UD (all). Happy's record is 12:4 (75%) -> excluding him leaves us with Orc 12-0 UD (100%). Wow! 3 Tournes in a row all orcs won 0 (ZERO) maps vs orcs. 3 Touneys in a row, including qualifiers. NE 50% vs 50% UD (all). Happy's record 5:2 (71%) -> excluding him gives us NE 66.7% vs 33.3% UD. Pretty volatile matchup... and usual special rubric - NE stats: Human 43% vs 57% NE; Wow, nice wr, elves! Those are their last wins vs humans... Orc 53% vs 47% NE;

[@Biobin123]

This tournament. Labby ud lost to ud 120 and got kicked out by human. He never faced a orc so ofc 0% win rate if you don’t fave it… would it be fair if i said ud op labby never lost to orc ? 120 faced only lyn and lost Happy won vs soin and lost to lyn. Focus, ice orc , soin , xiokk, fly, starbuck, info have not played vs ud… ( other than soin losing to happy) … your stats is unfair saying 0% winrate when there was not matches…

[@nightyonetwothree]

@@Biobin123 nope, you cant achieve 0% winrate w/o loses. Even if 120 and laby meet no orc, still other ud players did. So you go and check qualifiers (not only groups and playoffs) for wider chunk of data.

[@Biobin123]

@@nightyonetwothree oh even in qualies most ud lost to other ud or ne/hu… there was 2 matches vs orc : soin top 20 player with 2.4k rank vs tbc top 70 player 2k rank… and 2964 top 100 player with 1.8k losing to xiaokai top 50 player with 2.1k rank… You want top 100 ud to be able to beat top 50 orc? Otherwise orc op? Yeah sure… You must always consider rank…

[@Akram-101.0]

A great game is a great game, even if the one who I'm rooting for loses

[@seanreitmeyer631]

I love love love dual casts

[@zhetian9464]

I'm happy to see that the grand final without happy~

[@xtremelemon8612]

Happy haters always leave the smartest comments dont they

[@powershiftffs]

The betting odds for last 2 Happy series were 4.75 and 5.1 against him, imagine having the balls to capitalize on those.

[@am1d]

You will win every now and then, but will definitely lose more if you bet against him consitsently.

[@MyHomeExperiments]

Where do you bet?

[@hn-ca24]

lmao yo that banter between game 4 was hella funny, definitely unexpected. That EU trashtalk was nice - thx from a big ol murican

[@VladimirHealer]

🙏🏻❤

[@VladMan97]

galvanized steel pipe on the last frame of the video, good stuff

[@dogand366]

55:32 Neo, really? This happens so many times - his reaction is so slow. Oh man. 1:29:56 again

[@tehmastawow]

Really well played from forti, but now i'm kinda afraid for him in the finals cus he does NOT have a good record against lyn.

[@trantgerfried3708]

LETS GO FORTI

[@chandra5998]

i dont hate b2w, its just everytime happy lost, gold star is attached 😅

[@nightyonetwothree]

they act like this is some kind of "sensational"

[@phai44]

😂😂😂😂

[@talon6890]

Does taking down a zeppelin with passengers still in it also slow attack speed by great amounts or just movement speed?

[@sindarokeo3018]

Wtf was forti yaping at the end lol?

[@h1n1worm]

FIX THIS MATCHUP, i've no interest to play anymore!!!!!!

[@何舰-k6u]

小小happy，可笑可笑

[@Biobin123]

@@h1n1worm I have not seen you commenting about matchup when happy did 3-0 :) even two days ago in this tournament happened vs forty 3-0 and happy dominated sok too …

[@h1n1worm]

@@Biobin123 maybe bcos forti didnt say a word :)

[@cadukizzi]

@@Biobin123 that's why he is the best. Picks worst race and still beat people.

[@bigpigyi]

1:28:35 Lich got killed when DK's coil still cool down.

[@Biobin123]

There is 1 sec 1:28:36 no cd 1:28:37 death. If he spammed it would have been in time

[@Earpugs]

Fortitude is a legend!

[@jialerchang9256]

1:21:00 Nice one neo ;)

[@officialCannisMajoris]

Holy! Winning with human against undead? Forti is the 🐐

[@Jayson-c6p]

Guys, can we admit that the rival between Forti and Happy is best nowadays? If there is a contest, that must come from the series between happy and Lyn.

[@Ken-fw7ue]

What did fortitude say after the Last game.

[@bigben9463]

What a great serie by the winner!!!

[@HEALER__]

they need to buff haunted goldmine buildup even more, it's crazy how easy it is to cancel with just a hero and 2 footmen vs 11 ghouls, 4 skeletons and a DK

[@luchoonline]

nice greatings from peru

[@LuisAdrianLazoBazanVoid]

good match!

[@xlatheblackdragon705]

happy is unable to deny with auto attacks whilst all his opponents with worse attack animation ALWAYS deny.. Is this the best micro we have?

[@JmacBogan]

'Includes paid promotion' label is so annoying when casting to tv. Can't see items. There is no way to remove it apparently.

[@AleksandarBradaric]

What do these numbers under the champion pics mean 4772 sword, 524 shield, 70 plus?

[@P.sherman45]

its the damage they have dealt / damage they have tanked / and idk about the plus, maybe it has something to do with the XP

[@Karifean]

@@P.sherman45 It's the healing they've done, with any items used by them counting towards it too.

[@GreatOne_1]

Heal bruh​@@P.sherman45

[@Eris-Discordi]

I disagree about gold star. Usually, than someone beat Happy it's because of fantastic play. But last days Happy not in the shape for some reason. For his own standarts he plays bad, while Forty (and Lyn too) play usual. On channel was better games without gold star.

[@cadukizzi]

These days gold star are almost a spoiler of Happy loss.

[@4bafiafzil999]

​@@cadukizzialways has been, only 10% of them actually worth gold stars

[@anysnix7545]

Tome: +1 to Algorithm

[@marioswild5017]

always a bigger fish

[@joshydillens148]

If happy loses, you guys win - take my money

[@Back2Warcraft]

Yooooo big thanks mate, glad you enjoy our content 😍😍

[@MyHomeExperiments]

Fortitude is such a tough guy..

[@4bafiafzil999]

Happy's wasting time with 2 bases against HU. Not worth the effort anymore. Just go 1 base destros push all-in like old time + DL instead of DR. It's all about time rush against HU with better lategame than UD

[@redouaneortiz4917]

Human op af

[@ЮраСоколов-е6р]

The Dark Ranger is the third hero of shit Pit Lord - cool

[@am1d]

Sure Happy made a lot of mistakes and questionable decisions, BUT how people wrote Forti off, assuming the final will be played between Happy and Lyn was wrong. Also, between this game and Happy vs Lyn, pretty much every map was riddled with mistakes by everybody.

[@PK13719]

!Spoilershield!

[@ab-qj3wo]

Imo the only game that is well worth some balance whining is G2, Happy having his gold mine cancelled despite surrounding two elementals at once (that was a pretty sick move actually) was pretty stupid As for other games that Happy lost... In G1 he kept attacking a super fortified position instead of expanding himself while creeping all over the map that was clearly a strategic mistake. In G4 he did not scout a griffins transition in time and also lost his Lich in a crucial fight having no coil and no safety items to protected him. Also in G3 he lost an already finished gold mine cause he seems to miss click and not repair it in time. Not sure why but Happy played pretty poorly by his own standards vs both Lyn and Fortidude, while these two played really really well.

[@xtremelemon8612]

I think he is frustrated lately because there doesnt seem to be a solution for ud against orc when they mass wyverns rush, so he was not motivated to go into the final knowing he would get 3-0ed again by that without anything he could do… So he prefered to go out vs Forti by displaying well fought matches at least.

[@destroyer5859]

​@@tank_3487And still theres people that say UD is op 🤯

[@kevjun252]

Yep people fail to realize how hard it is to play UD. They need a little bit of buff still

[@FalseNomen]

I'd also add that the DR choices seem to have been a mistake.

[@Biobin123]

@@tank_3487how nobody talked about balance when happy steam rolled sok in this tournament? Or when he 3-0 blade or and this is my favorite when he 3-0 forty in this tournament? Or back then power building peasant were not a thing? What changed?

[@Tfiar]

that shows what happened when you nerf UD to the ground

[@alexanderschwenk8228]

GG romantic romantic

[@horstkohler7926]

:)

[@edgarsvasiljevs3913]

Why happy is not in army?

[@armanaryn8372]

What!!!

[@Maphoosaeel]

Are u dumb?

[@MyHomeExperiments]

NERF UNHOLY AURA SPEED BONUS

[@cadukizzi]

It's been nerfed to the ground already.

[@MyHomeExperiments]

@@cadukizzi that's not the ground.

[@BrunoMartins-vs9ed]

FORTITUDE > HAPPY

[@cadukizzi]

Happy has been dominating the game for the last 5 years. Winning every possible tournament with few exceptions. Fortitude did not even win this particular tournament.

[@BrunoMartins-vs9ed]

BUT..... Fortitude WON ! End.

[@chihwenlee5572]

poor UD , bliz always nerf UD like a weak cat until nobody want to play this race

[@Biobin123]

In this patch all tournaments were won by ud… you do know that new ptr is not online for this tournament right? And before this on this very tournament happy 2-1 vs sok, 3-0 blade and 3-0 forty :))) this is 4 match vs hu and 2 vs forty and he won all previous:))) no new patch yet…

[@cadukizzi]

@@Biobin123 not by Ud. By Happy. All other Undead were destroyed. Even 120 is losing to human players that no one ever heard about.

[@Biobin123]

@@cadukizzi happy is not ud player? Ted cup 21 happened in march 2024 finals were happy vs 120. Happy won… Doubi Ancient of Wonders Race War 2024 - 120 won Warcraft Survival Battle - 120 lost to forty in finals 2-3 …

[@cadukizzi]

@@Biobin123 When you say "undead" it looks like different undead players are winning the tournaments, while the truth is that they are getting destroyed. After that TeD Cup a new patch came out, Undead got nerfed again, Humans and Orcs buffed and 120 went on a loss streak that is still going.

[@Biobin123]

@@cadukizzi there was no patch uptades in April what are you talking about?