WC3 - [UD] Happy vs Fortitude [HU] - WB Semifinal - Warcraft 3 All-Star League - S1 - M3

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Playoffs - WB Semifinal
[UD] Happy vs Fortitude [HU]
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Date: May 21st, 2024
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[@PK13719]

!!!!Spoilershield!!!!

[@ЕвгенийШангин-щ6с]

Император просто прошелся по фортитьюду как танк! 😮 Хэппи всё больше агресивнее начинает играть против хумана! Респект! ✊💪

[@juanantonioramirezperez8612]

El mes pasado fortitude lo tenia de hijo a HAPPY, hasta pena sentia por todos los UD desde LABYRINTH, EER0, HAPPY por que no podian contra SOK ni FORTITUDE, pero almenos ahora ya se recuperarón ..... Aunque creo que una vez que el HUMANO arma su segunda MINA y empieza a sacar a los TANQUES se complica la partida para los UD , por que los HU mandan TANQUES a la base principal y a la segunda mina al mismo tiempo, y ambas bases ni un jugador las puede defender, Peor que los tanques bajan bastante y resisten mucho.

[@Tfiar]

just glad for Happy smash that dumbass tank strat

[@StolenMemes-101]

agree, but tbh sok did it way better than forti

[@hectorxu4820]

forty gets fucked up by his own magic lol

[@karhankuncu1870]

Disgusting no skill tank strat. Good to see its owned hard by Happy.

[@uuuu6590]

Happy staying at 50 food and then exploding into 70 to close game 2 was so beautiful! Great game by Happy

[@cadukizzi]

Prediction for next patch: more human buffs; nerfs to wagons, gargs, fiends. Blizzard can nerf Undead all they want, Happy has shown he will always adapt and remain being the best.

[@Tiberium9000]

I think human need an even easier way to counter basically all the other air units in the game /j

[@DarkflameEmperor]

Imagine a long-game plan of Happy switching races after UD is nerfed to the ground so he can dominate with NE or HU (whichever race dominates the other at that point) and you lock in another era of Happy domination.

[@cadukizzi]

@@DarkflameEmperor nah he is a death knight himself.

[@filipefranca5866]

After huge undead buffs since the ritual dagger implementation and constant human nerfs since 2003, happy started winning everything indeed

[@cadukizzi]

@@filipefranca5866 before Reforged Undead was always trash, since 2003. First Undead to win a tournament was TeD in 2012. Beside Grubby and Moon, Humans always dominated professional WC3. Happy started dominating in 2019, after Infi retired. You have no idea what you talk about.

[@nightyonetwothree]

some wc3 info about dps: average dps for army unit is ~5.2 per food. Examples: footman ~4.63, ghoul 5.0, archer ~5.67, abom 4.74, knight ~6.07, wyvern 5, fiend 4.75, huntress 3.15, rifleman 5.19, hh/berserker 5.41... water elem level 1 have dps of 14, ie its dps is 3 food unit (~fiend). water elem level 2 have dps of 24.67 => dps of 5 food unit (fiend+archer). Here some math: 1. t1 armies comparison: 2 water elementals will have ~49+ dps, ie 5 ghouls (50 dps), or 5.3 footies. 2. canceling mine math: with build-rate of haunted mine of 950/110 = 8.63hp/s, single water elemental level 2 will be able to cancel it at 65% done. With slow of nerub tower (-25% attack speed) water elem level 2 will cancel haunted mine at 53% done. 3. vs nova: while nova is so different spell, granting slow and instant damage, the dps and mana effeciency cane be calculated for some common scenarios. Average nova level 2 hit 3-4 targets (sometimes 5-6 footies+militia, sometimes 2 footies or solo elem, or am). With direct damage of 150 and aoe 50 it will deal 150+4*50=350 damage for 125 mana to 4 targets. CD of nova is 8 seconds, so 34.7 dps (average) for 15.6 mana/sec. It takes 350/24.67 = ~14.18 seconds of attack uptime of water elemental 2 to reach same damage output. With 60 seconds duration it's below 25% of uptime. For 2 of them it's ~7 seconds (~49 dps). If lich can cast ~7-8 novas in a minute, spending 875-1000 mana (fantastic) to deal ~2450-2800 average damage, 2 water elems will require 3 summons (once per 30 sec to have 2 of them 100% uptime) is 375 mana and will deal ~49*60 = ~2940 damage / min. For sure situations are different, for example nova can hit more units or just there will be no 800+ mana for lich with just ritual level 1; Water elems with duration of 60 and cd of 20 can be presented as 3 at a time etc... but still you can already have understanding of how strong and cheap water elems are vs "imba nova", "imba ghouls" etc.

[@timfink7980]

@@returnofmerenguespersempre6664and there’s good reasons for that… You can’t compare dps on a unit to INSTANT long range air dmg+slow and say „but the dps is higher over its lifespan“

[@Biobin123]

Footman can gather 0 lumber and can’t really heal for free… ghouls gather lumber heal for free on blight while gathering, have better dps good in late game unlike footies , can carry items… Comparing water elemental to nova… you know what happens to air units? They clump up what you rather have water elemental in that situation or nova? Nova is instant dmg meaning you can guarantee kill great for creeping, creep jacking and defending from a creep jack… also great for hit and run… early dmg means early xp as well as reducing enemy dmg. You know what helps with reducing enemy dmg? Slow and attack slow… Can you send 1 water elemental in and kill 5 acolyte ? You can kill 5 peasants with nova easy… Can you dispel water elemental? Yes does it give xp? Yes. Does it also make destros better? Yup :) Since you are comparing stupid stuff here just for you: 1 garg with no upgrades can kill 20 knights full upgraded. Conclusion? Garg op knights need buff!

[@ДаулетСерік-и3п]

Footmens are perfect for shield t2 push againts orc, what ghouls just cant. ​@@Biobin123

[@markvanderwerf8592]

Water elemental like most summons is incredibly strong early but falls off hard later because of destroyers, shaman, dryad's and priests. Can't really compare it like that Hu has the early expo advantage with AM vs Lich. But Ud can counter expand or go for T3 timing attack or even later expo. Many options to stabilize later as ghouls + destro + gargs is the superior army with the UD heroes compared to Hu.

[@nightyonetwothree]

@@markvanderwerf8592 for sure somethuing must counter mass sumon meta - that's how dispel were added into the game. But ud cant counterexpand - that's why even Happy get to the point to not try rebuild canceled mine, but go t3? There is no answers to waterelems on t1-t2. For sure there is a window when ud can use destroyers, but after hum with 2 bases reach t2 - get workshops, get gyros - it's over. Lategame destroyers aren't an option due to human air superiorirty. Did you see game 1 last fight? 12 gyros destroyed all 5 gargs and 2 destroyers (20 food) in seconds. Flack canon is a joke op aoe, literally 100% chance halfscreen pulverize vs air.

[@nightyonetwothree]

throwtitude. game 1: won game, get zeppelin, drop on ud army, lose all footies+mk to press tp. Then buy new tp, run solo am into lich, press tp. Buy new tp, get mk from altar and run into ud expand, do nothing and press tp again. Just serial thrower. game3: 6 wagons +3 attack upgraded vs tanks 1 armor upgrade. Sweet hardcounter.

[@josenunez313]

Fortitude is losing against Happy, because he doesn't know what is to addapt, learn, improve. He plays with the same strats, abussing race weakness and exploit humans overall advantages and buffs. He is a linear player. He lost the 3 games, once his right clic gaming fails, he loses. That's why he uses humans. I am 100% sure if he uses any other race, he would be one of the worst player WC3 has. It's not throwtitude, it's mediocretude. He doesn't have the level that is needed to adapt. He knows what is gonna play since the beginning. Such a boring player to watch.

[@kevjun252]

Damn Forti can't help but throw. Hope he gets his groove back

[@redouaneortiz4917]

Glad happy won against this boring *** masse tanks stratégie...+ I like when he went double orb of corruption with the dreadlord and lich i think thats the first ive seen happy with double orb..

[@Xengard]

holy moly that last game, ive never seen tanks go down that fast. meat wagons did a great job

[@ruslangozoloev9089]

Единственный игрок за нежить который может выиграть сейчас человека. И тактику поменял happy

[@Hellsmachinery]

@@noxiansummoner1730 120, Sheik and Laby win every final too?

[@Hellsmachinery]

@@noxiansummoner1730exactly

[@ВладимирТимохин-щ7ц]

I have no questions. Ave!

[@АлексейВерещагин-н5ъ]

Слава императору

[@oleksandrtaras5336]

Слава тлько Богу!

[@skywillfindyou]

@@oleksandrtaras5336 Только Богу-Императору, еретик!

[@АлексейВерещагин-н5ъ]

@@skywillfindyou Правильно

[@probudd]

Incredible Happy stay in 50 limit, fights and wins.

[@zeiphodbeeblebrox8439]

Happy... What a GOD! @Neo Happyfanboy#1

[@uuuu6590]

It was even in supply, provided there were 12 gyros (dead supply at that point really)

[@ДаулетСерік-и3п]

​@@uuuu6590and plus 10 workers on wood, already havon 1.5k....

[@4bafiafzil999]

Massive throwtitude

[@scottymeffz5025]

Thank you :)

[@skywillfindyou]

29:15 Ahahaha I can't there is sucha a fight in this community

[@tak08810]

Let me guess coil nova imbal and UD needs nerfs right. They will keep trying to throw Happy next up is making him play on Chinese servers with big ping disadvantage again!

[@tomservo1367]

Happy never looks very happy.

[@Looking-for-today]

Undead doesn't need to fast expand, just pkaythe standard game against human, tier 3 destroyers push. Why would expose yourself by trying to expand and get cancelled by water elementals 3? The new happy strategy is the old strategy

[@andreylong1869]

Kinda true. But there is a problem: with no expo to target, human harasses UD main & cripples UD tech, slowing it down by up to minutes. By the time UD can finally push, human is fortified to unpushable levels and is near/at tier 3 and has 2nd hero out and has double economy. Good luck at that point.

[@cadukizzi]

Fast T3 basicaly if you don't finish the game with the push, you are done. You gamble with 1 win condition.

[@4bafiafzil999]

​@@cadukizziwith Happy's micro, I think he has better chance winning with 1 base than risking 2 bases long game with HU-favored lategame

[@KibaszottRomania]

Watching this while eating kebab. Best meal break

[@toddybam7924]

I am also on my lunch break now :)

[@fabiankroger4645]

Masterclass!

[@uuuu6590]

8 tanks and no Blood Mage :) What a throw

[@LuisAdrianLazoBazanVoid]

not even close this time

[@leonnunhofer3453]

Spoiler: I really liked the first defense in game 1. Imo that's exactly what more humans should do. 3 - 4 guard towers per base, and delaying T-3 a bit, to get the towers up earlier. Happy didn't even try to attack the expo, he attacked the main with the building towers, but with far more militia, and there his statue got stuck, and he lost it. So good defense, and I also agree with trading footmen, but his MK progress was very bad, so imo it would have been better to stay more passive, lvl MK, get Pala, lvl Pala and play T-3 for a big push, while Happy tries to catch up with his expo. He donated early DR lvl 3 to Happy, while never getting lvl 3 on his 2nd and 3rd hero, and without donating XP, and with leveling, it could have been lvl 3 MK and maybe even lvl 3 Pala vs lvl 2 DR. He would had been able to hit before banshees and lvl 3 DR, with playing more passive and focusing on lvls, I agree 🤷‍♂️ Edit: I also liked the UD expo attempt on map 2, and it would have been a different outcome, if the expo was just a bit further away. Maybe with the northern expo, if it's possible

[@luisalbertobaldeonprado]

Simplemente Happy aplastó a Fortitude por cambiar a una buena estrategia con sus catapultas contra los tanques... Y con su excelente micro de unidades y heroes Fortitude ya nada podia hacer...

[@thiagocassimirodemello9263]

Honestly, I'm more of a fan of 120, but Happy is very constant. troop that from the moment paladin level 4 becomes almost impossible to kill a knight with the armor he has... happy doesn't even play in games where the opponents don't have much significance... he plays seriously and always to win, that's admirable... .while 120 is nothing more than a legend that has faded away.. because the guy can't even play at a high level anymore, losing to people he would never lose without his trolling..

[@fanzheng6480]

Forti seems much less excited when playing these days, hope all is well for him in real life, and back in top shape.

[@TheCedrikp]

I still do not understand why forti does not buy orb of fire….

[@philipgeorgiev]

3 breaker = win

[@Holzschmied]

nice games!

[@Tsinteris]

Happy is a GOD!!! 💪

[@StolenMemes-101]

Fortitude wasn't himself here, was he

[@juliannilson6124]

Makeup forti

[@chris_van_gainz]

TightHunterz

[@shakez22]

во второй игре китаец должен был жидкого дать от натуги) чё тока не делал, всё равно не вывез

[@yurihung9244]

just cant type gg properly, only one g as always

[@tonyiliev3788]

Omg undead wins what unexpected turns of events. Nothing against Happy, very skilled player and he proved that many times but this matchup is a joke. When i read comments below i wonder did most of you played the fucking game or just like to say something stupid just for fun. To all undead players, fans or whatever explain why the human players are forced to play with fast expand and "lame" tanks (this is how most of you are naming them) to stand a change against undead race... When you managed to answer this simple question you will understand why this matchup is broken. I would give money to see if Happy can win against Fortitude on WROC but i think i know the outcome. Spoiler alert he cannot.

[@cadukizzi]

They always go fast expo because Humans are the fastest race to expand. It is actualy unfair to other races to play one base behind. They are not forced to use the expo, they use because it is too good and easy.

[@4bafiafzil999]

HU fexpo a lot because why would you cap yourself playing 1 base when you can expo and play 2 bases easily? Then if it's harder coz HU players have 0 skill? Just ask daddy blizzard to buff human under mask of "buffing 1 base play"

[@tonyiliev3788]

@@randomstuffs8495 did you ever played this game i assume at a noob level at best. So be so kind to go in the kitchen.

[@tonyiliev3788]

@@cadukizzi no they expand because they don`t have a chance to beat undead with one base. Show me a pro game where human beats undead without expo and i will believe you.

[@tonyiliev3788]

@4bafiafzil999 Hu fexpo because they cannot win otherwise. Of course, this applies only for pro gaming. I don't care for buffing i am just stating the obvious.