We Almost Didn’t Do The Song With BIGGIE… Because of TuPac‼️ | Bone Thugs-N-Harmony

[@twocents6951]

“We grown men we ain’t got nothing to do with that beef” Krayzie Bone 💯❗️

[@NOIRsDuff]

Legendary,,, got chills

[@davidtrongnguyen]

People always say Pac wasn't lyrical, not realising Pac wrote his verses in 10 minutes and laid it down and didn't even look back at it. Other artists, take it home, refine it and do multiple takes.

[@elliot2177]

That was the only time BIG did that.Every other time, he would go off the dome without writing. What are you talking about?

[@EffortlessEffervescence]

Yeah but, it sounds like he did it in 10 minutes too. Ppl only like that song because of the collaboration and the novelty of Tupac being deceased. The truth is, Tupac stunk that verse up. You could tell he was struggling with the beat. He's not in pocket. Where as Big took his time and delivered what was best for the song. I get why Pac fans like it, Pac could've blew his nose, farted and burped on it and y'all would say it's classic

[@JjP-ss5kb]

⁠@@EffortlessEffervescenceI don’t get what you mean about Pac struggling with the beat. He was on beat perfectly. And him using a slightly slowed down style of delivery was (for me) a nice juxtaposition to Bone’s speedy style.

[@EffortlessEffervescence]

@@JjP-ss5kb What I mean by struggling is he took the same approach Eazy E did with for the love of money. He was on beat, but not in pocket, which made him clash w what Bone was doing and come off as struggling or unable to keep up with the way they all delivered their verses.

[@JjP-ss5kb]

@@EffortlessEffervescence ah, got ya. I can definitely understand where you’re coming from, and why you might not like that. When it first came out, hearing Pac on the second verse felt a bit off to me. But, as I continued listening to the album over and over I grew to really enjoy that stark contrast he provided in the song. I’m glad you explained your perspective.

[@illmaticgemini]

This is the kinda question I LOVE to hear (paraphrasing) "were you by yourself when you heard Biggie's verse, or were you with the group". That's the exact kinda stuff I love, man. Those small details of info/history. Overall, I love the vibe of this interview. Very well done.

[@ILoveTheAllCreator]

The Notorious took it home because he had to go on tour. They heard it after he pass

[@illmaticgemini]

@@ILoveTheAllCreator Yep. But I wanted to hear how BTNH took in the verse when they first heard it - ie, were they all together, did they hear it separately, etc. This answers that question, at least for Kray. We all knew BIG took the record home to perfect his verse, as BTNH, Stevie J, Puff, Lobel, etc all said this in the past.

[@ILoveTheAllCreator]

@@illmaticgemini Word! The notorious was trying to figure how to match their energy and basically said let me take this home to give this right. I felt like pac could did better in his record because pac was chopper flow rapping on something wicked 1991

[@illmaticgemini]

@@ILoveTheAllCreator Indeed, indeed.

[@justinmayo1483]

How is it that these guys can act like this is the first time they've heard this story? Kray has told this hundreds of times. Rarely do any of these interviewers do their homework.

[@mizzo_beeto]

I'm sayin 😂😂

[@phantomfacefinal7735]

You’re right! The Krayzie part about it is the verse that Krayzie did wasn’t the verse he was going to lay on that track. Diddy overheard Kray just spitting and he told him to use that as his verse

[@hippa2dahoppa2]

if you google bone biggie like 30 interviews will come up. even vlad asked it twice in 2 diff interviews and the second time he was like "i always wanted to ask" yet he already asked it a previous time LOL. its as bad as "how did you meet eazy" how did you make crossroads. like ask some stuff about steve lobel becoming their manager after they said they didnt have one. or ask about the KR project about the live footage if we canget the full good quality of it some day. ask if the artillery shop lyrics they wrote for eazy was used in the actually artillery shop lyrics song that krayzie made. ask about how bone has remade most of nwa's hits and made them equally if not better

[@younglove3362]

This my first time hearing that Bone Thugs heard his verse after getting the album. And yes, I did research on Bone Thugs N Harmony. Not only that, they're my favorite group and Krayzie Bone is my favorite rapper.

[@DonniesWrld35]

Notorious thugs is da best song on dat album!!!, one of da best songs period 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@SOOPASINEMA]

Nah

[@wells213]

@@SOOPASINEMAyeah it actually is

[@dononeeye9912]

​@@wells213 you into commercial punk sh!t then?

[@SOOPASINEMA]

@wells213 the impact of that song at that time was huge, with a New York rapper using the bone style and mastering it, incredible.....I love the song. I don't believe it's the very best though. That double album "Life After Death" is amazing

[@nakiadavis9638]

Facts

[@MikeHernandez707]

Krayzie BONE! Just a couple days ago i was havin a hard time waking up, kinda un-motivated. 1 song popped into my head, Thug Devotion from the Original Mo Thugs album! I felt like a good breakfast on a Sunday!

[@phantomfacefinal7735]

Bone Thugs 4Ever! 💯

[@thecreeperbeatngu8133]

Gotta give a S/o to Stevie J for that fire Production behind the Verses & Harmony as well. 🔥

[@WHOAA]

Legendary Stevie J. Mannnn that’s a bad boy. This and breakdown some of the Coldest beats ever made. I mean notorious thugs might be the coldest or one of the coldest rap beats of all time.

[@Mmurzn]

@@WHOAA Yeah man when the bass comes in with the harmonies at the beginning it's just such a perfect sequence its crazy..

[@ayanna439]

​@@WHOAAThe song & production are legendary but Stevie J is no legend at all unless we're talking about some degeneracy so calm down 😂

[@davon4470]

The whole song is fire however my favorite verse was Bizzy bone's however everyone killed it.

[@GanMan7]

I can’t even choose cause they all went stupid on that track. I was 11 listening to that when it came out and knew it line for line. I’m 38 now.

[@thinkforward8752]

"Nohhh toriouus thuuugs..." 🎙🔥🙌

[@ChameleoKing]

Just imagine if BTNH had a chance to perform this song live with Big, or Thug Luv live with Pac!! Man, that would've been dumb nice! 🔥🔥🔥🔥💯✊🏾

[@Thatdudesolitude]

When people interview someone LET THEM TALK DAMN

[@jessicablasingame9805]

That's great! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@hippa2dahoppa2]

it wouldnt be a bone interview if they didnt ask "how did the biggie song come about" for the MILLIONTH TIME

[@CHARLESJOHNSON-gv7zy]

'WE JUST SITTIN HERE .. TRYNA WIN .. TRYING NOT TO SIN .. HIGH OFF WEED .. AND LOTS OF GIN .. SO MUCH SMOKE .. NEED OXYGEN .. STEADILY COUNTING THEM BENJAMINS' ..

[@DonniesWrld35]

Ye a series would be better...I would like a movie but too much history fo dat!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@johncross4458]

Without Bone that song really wouldn't be as good because BIG got his flow from them

[@DHosa713]

If pac did the song first with bizzy, laid his verse, and later they put it on the album with the other song biggie did with them, how did pac know they would do a song with biggie, when pac said u heard the last jam, nigga this one's worse, and then the song with biggie, biggie says so called beef with u know who, like they both mentioned each other in the songs with bone, they're not telling that part of the story, bone saying they didn't know it would be put out like that, who was the mastermind that put that together like that?

[@paragraphics7403]

Krayzie said, a few years ago, he wasn't feeling his own verse on "Notorious Thugs". I wonder why.

[@bnyang84]

Yeah i recall that too. Thats a reason why when he got the offer to do the remix SPIT YOUR GAME, he went off.

[@BobFace22]

Cause it wasn't something he wrote specifically for the song and wasn't high energy. He went in and spit something he had used before, just as a warm-up, and Puffy liked it so much he told him to keep it.

[@WHOAA]

Mannn it ended up being one of the coldest slickest verses. I used to think how smooth and how much he brought the energy down was interesting, but it’s actually like the most interesting and unique part of the song. How he was rhyming and just how fast 💨 is crazy. I think BIG obviously had the most stand out verse, but bizzy verse was the hardest. And Layzie just spazzes out the most. At the end mannnnnnnnnnn

[@WHOAA]

I personally like bizzy and Krayzie verse the best. It’s like uh ohhhh here comes KRAY ! Who can keep up ! I mean the flow is just soooo cold man. I’d say the coldest flow on the song. But bizzy came the hardest mannn. That lebek of ferocity he spit that verse with was crazy ! But man BIG def completely destroyed the track , he blew the roof off.

[@themultiplayerz500]

Krayzie verse was always my favorite. Once you understood the lyrics, it made roo much sense. He told a story in his verse

[@richardbrack9375]

All of u are unique you guys need to start learning from each other listening to One each other times precious plz do it for E do ot for uncle Charlie do it for the ones That u love ❤️ just my though DoG LoVe

[@NipseyEternal99]

Why is this episode not on Spotify yet?

[@splmafia9690]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@uriel-heavensguardian8949]

💯✊🏾💯✊🏾💯✊🏾💯✊🏾💯✊🏾💯

[@SOOPASINEMA]

B.I.G. has the BEST verse on that Legendary song

[@yo3rdtier128]

No he don’t

[@bone-snypa]

lol no he doesn't

[@bone-snypa]

not even 2nd or possibly 3rd

[@esthervazquez-j8v]

krayzie ya'll da 1's who made that rap song legendary

[@reginawhite9036]

That reminds me of Easy

[@AlphaO_]

So for all those that claim he didn't write, welp there's your answer. He didn't the same with Jay Z welp there's your answer. And there is nothing wrong with writing, I prefer writing overall, because you don't have to go back and say damn I should've said it this way or that way or added this. So salute to the real emcees that are writers.

[@thecunninlynguist]

mef has said he saw biggie write. I'm sure Biggie did both "not write" and write thing.

[@SoulOfTheSouth]

According to podcaster Doggie Diamonds, who was friends with Biggie during the Ready To Die era, Method Man and others, Big was writing during the Ready To Die album. He stopped writing lyrics around 96 even when he was around Jay Z and Tracey Lee, he didn’t write at that time. The reason why Big stopped writing is because when your write down your lyrics and staring at your notepad while trying to think, it makes you think too hard at times. Even when you read your lyrics back while recording your vocals, it throws your balance off and when you listen back to yourself from the recording, your voice will sound like your actually reading something. You wanted it to sound natural. That’s why when I write, I put the pad down and I memorize lines that I wrote. I get up and walk around in the public or at home and repeat the same line until i come up with something else. When I get through writing my verse, I memorize my verse, repeat it to myself and go in the booth without my pad and record my vocals. It just natural to me.

[@EffortlessEffervescence]

BIG was the first rapper we heard about not writing his raps. However, Biggie actually got the technique from Hov

[@AlphaO_]

@SouldOfTheSouth how'd he stop in 96 when this song with bone he wrote in 97???? And yes I understand the writing process, I've been writing since 93. We used recorders back then to write and the instantly record the lyrics to the beat you're using and memorize a whole song less than 30mins, I've never taken a tablet in a studio in my life and can record 6songs in less than and hr, I always do 4songs in 30mins. Look up pics and u clearly see Big with pen and paper while in the studio. Look at Jay do dirt off your shoulders and how many times he changed the lyrics. It's on the black album movie. Once it's written and perfected there is no reason to go back and change anything, a person that writes in their head always says to themselves after they listen to it "damn I should've said this instead" and then wastes the engineers time going back in to change things. If u have money and time to waste in studios go ahead but I rather be precise instead

[@ILoveTheAllCreator]

There footage of the Notorious spitting Warning off the dome, keep up

[@esthervazquez-j8v]

i love that song i never liiked 2pac's songs with bone tho

[@squaddownproductions6264]

They act like bone hasn't told this story over and over for years 😂 Google is your friend 😂 they do have recent music, ask about recent accomplishments

[@In4mous1]

So we gone act like it’s not a knock on big that he had to take the song home cause he really couldn’t compete with Bone

[@SS2369]

Thug Luv was good, however Notorious Thugs was legendary top tier 💯

[@IMBMO-5]

Pac was the shitn

[@fuhyou3223]

These dudes gotta be tired of running back through this same story over and over again like Nelly. Bizzy a weirdo for not wanting to do the song because of Pac. He acting like that was his A1 Day 1 or something. Just in ‘94 Pac had a bit of an issue with Bone calling themselves thugs as if he invented the word. If Bizzy hesitated on doing the song then I’m assuming Tupac was still alive at that point. He should just admit hey I’m scared Tupac is gonna come hit us up. If you scared you just scared. I guess sometimes your guys have to give you your manhood back.🤷🏾‍♂️ Too Short wasn’t afraid of what Pac might think. He did a song rhyming with Biggie and Puffy in ‘96 before the car accident. I almost wished Bone didn’t work with both of them simply because of the Stan Wars we’ve endured for nearly 30 YEARS. It’s ok to like both songs dislike one or both but at least have your own legitimate opinion. I don’t hear too many criticisms of Thug Luv but with Notorious Thugs it’s either Biggie copied Bone’s flow or the verse is overrated. Pac didn’t do Bone’s flow on their song. Some people might say the change the song after Biggie’s verse is done. I say it’s Biggie’s song and he can rap to it however he wants to it. I loved what he did to it and I honestly think everyone did a fine job. I don’t rank verses because it doesn’t matter. Everybody’s not gonna like every song but I can’t get with this super nitpicky feminine stuff these guys be doing cause of the climate at the time. People get too attached to these artists that they’ve never met.👎🏾👎🏾

[@BobFace22]

They had already done the song with Pac at this point, and Bizzy had actually done the song with Pac alone and wanted to use on his solo album, so he felt some loyalty issues. He wasn't scared of Pac. Pac only had an issue with the word thug before he met them and knew who they were. The first time Pac met them, he gushed over how his favorite song in jail was the original Crossroads and he was a big fan.

[@thecunninlynguist]

Notorious thugs > Thug Luv

[@twashbeats]

Facto

[@phantomfacefinal7735]

I consider them equivalent. Both are Legendary Tracks

[@thecunninlynguist]

@phantomfacefinal7735 def both are legendary

[@eastgate6134]

Bizzy verse on both songs is crazy

[@godofthisshit]

Without question

[@elliot2177]

For the record, Notorious Thugs is 100000 times better than Thug Luv.I never hear anything about that song and only heard of it after BIG and Bones song.

[@highlywouldkustomz]

What's so great about this comment is...EVERYBODY'S ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION😊

[@Wehaveshortshorts]

Thug luv was already done with sylk e fine …they stole the song from bizzy

[@JAMES-ng7ex]

krayzie lying ....

[@chillbest14]

Yeah Bizzy bodied both songs

[@ProfessorAtrain]

THUG LUV > notorious thug

[@kingofkings3477]

The Tupac and Bone Song is not even a official song..Matter fact Tupac probably never even heard that final version..The original Tupac Thug Luv song is only with Bizzy Bone and Sylk E. Fyne,The song is a underground song.. They took Tupac verse and added the rest of the group and threw it on the album like it was a collaboration. Krayzie Fake as fuck for acting like they put that song down with Tupac as a joint project 😂😂

[@BrodieSplitz1031]

You sound silly. Krayzie has already stated that they weren’t in the studio with Pac, only Bizzy and every time they ran into Pac it was always out and about at some function. Krayzie has told the story about how Thug Luv went down.

[@kingofkings3477]

@BrodieSplitz1031 No the hell he didn't I'm a huge Bone Thugs fan and I've never seen anyone of them truthfully acknowledge that the song is not a official song...And yo ass lying if it's a interview thar they did post the link right here..Other than that shut da hell up..

[@kingofkings3477]

@BrodieSplitz1031 You're a lie..I'm a huge Bone fan and they have never came out truthful about the song not being a original authentic song. And if you can prove me wrong post the link right here.

[@BrodieSplitz1031]

@@kingofkings3477 hang on

[@BrodieSplitz1031]

@@kingofkings3477 it’s even in the same interview

[@TheAmazingsuntanSpider-man]

THUG LUV WAS WAAAAAY BETTER!!!

[@globalrei]

Yeah pac and bone thugs was better plus pac stayed in his own lane