WE ARE NOT READY FOR THE FINALE!😭(Oil & Water) - Arcane Episode 8 REACTION!

[@timho4386]

At least the season ends with a happy and satisfying conclusion

[@mete1467]

Yep at least they lived happly after all

[@JohnKennethCastro]

I really liked the part where they somehow solved all social and mental health issues.

[@TukaihaHithlec]

All wrapped up nicely with a definitive win-win.

[@androkguz]

SPOILERS Technically true, since the Council lived in peace for the rest of their lives.

[@DavidClayton0]

For sure 😊

[@Atrop1ne]

I love the massive collective “oh shit” everyone has after the hype ass fight the moment the kid becomes collateral damage.

[@aperson9847]

It's amazing how we spend the entire show not having any idea how to feel about Mel, but then it just takes one short scene to make EVERYTHING click. The writers of this show are god tier.

[@Creaform003]

The reagent should have a kind fat face. Clever, to charm his subjects, but pliable so we can mold him... Jayce is her reagent.

[@LeahB31]

@@Creaform003Except she loves him frfr.

[@Shax22132]

This show is very good at presenting the different sides of different issues and characters and then letting the audience decide how they feel about them. Life is complicated, and Arcane shows it.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

You called Jayce's flaw perfectly - he does tend to follow the last person who has his ear. Maybe with experience he'll find his own center? Over the last couple of years those of us who have been steeping ourselves in international events have had to learn a lot about escalation ladders, and this episode presents the idea perfectly in Mel's case. The danger of escalation isn't just tit-for-tat escalation between sides pushing each to climb the ladder but the normalization of the current rung of escalation on a given side setting the stage for further escalation. Ambessa's line "weapons can't be unmade and they are always used" becomes a reality check for Mel letting her see how far she's let the escalation pull her away from her values so she can re-center herself and de-escalate. Also, I love that although Ambessa is evil, history supports her assertion about killing one nucleus for rebellion vs having to kill thousands - but the evil is that the choice is only necessary because violent imperialism is their family business. And I love the very simple so effective visual storytelling of the blasted throne room - yikes. A big part of the genius of the show is that most characters aren't good or bad just human and fallible, and thus able to be either the "good guy" or the "bad guy" in any given moment. Like Vi becoming arguably a bad guy in the latter part of the episode. Nobody is ready for any episode, but especially not the finale.

[@Hohum37]

I think that's rather a surface reading of Jayce. When he's presented issues he has to decide on, he often gets two conflicting sets of opinions thrown at him - by choosing one of them, he's often criticized by viewers as not having his own agency - this would be their complaint whichever choice he made, which is a sort of catch-22 criticism. Additionally, he often modifies the explicit wishes of one of the sets of advice given him, and the most important decisions he makes aren't due to anyone's advice, imo.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

@@Hohum37 to me it isn't a criticism. He has no experience in this stuff and wasn't even sufficiently interested in history to be aware of whether military history is taught in the academy. It's just not his thing. By contrast Mel is obviously steeped politics at an early age, she wouldn't have just thought up all that "kind fat face" stuff that probably a combination of intense personal study, tutoring, and family discussion backed by observations of political interactions since even earlier childhood. And suddenly Jake is thrust into the center of Piltover politics. What's he going to do? He's in a situation and someone says something and he sees how that genuinely applies and goes with it. Ambessa for example isn't _wrong_ but she's right for someone who does violent imperialism for their family business. But eventually after he's gotten some experience maybe he'll have better options. ("with respect...")

[@Hohum37]

@@j.f.fisher5318 I was advocating a deeper examination of each choice he makes, rather than bridling at Jayce being criticised. On closer inspection I think you'll see that he doesn't often follow the last person who had his ear, he usually modifies his actions between the options given - and I restate: The biggest decisions he ever makes come from his own mind. His flaw, I think, is much like Caitlyn's - naivety, yet both have a willingness to learn and adapt to new information. An example. In the theater scene, Mel encourages Jayce to make what seems like possibly illegal deals (although even this isn't directly suggested - it's possibly Arcane writers letting tropes misguide the audience). Jayce offers a partnership - early access to new inventions in return for investment. That just seems like a business deal. Even Mel is surprised. To me, that seems like navigating the world of politics, which he necessarily has to do as a Councillor, without too much compromise. However, the simple reading of it is that Jayce just did what Mel said.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

@@Hohum37 that's fair.

[@Ockerlord]

@@Hohum37 Jayce often changes his mind. He doesnt have strong convictions regarding what politics to persue. Those are qualities that are heavily looked down upon in politicians. Most people hate politicians who go back on their words and frequently change positions. So of course people see him as deeply flawed. I on the other hand disagree. I think he is the exact right kind of person to be in charge. Him changing his politics multiple times is a sign of great integrity. He knows that he has much to learn, and he is willing to change his views based on new information. He is not concerned with pretending he knows what he is doing. He is not concerned with appearing smart and avoiding mistakes. He tries different things that do not work out the way he envisioned them. Jayce is an ambitious and skilled scientist. And he believes in the scientific method and empiricism. He applies that to politics instead of following a given ideology. If more politicians would update their views based on reality, the world would be vastly better.

[@midnight1672]

In regards to the council scene: Vi says that you can't negotiate with Silco but I believe nobody has really tried. In episode three he says - and I quote - "It's a little crude, I'll admit. The base violence necessary for change. But we both know topside won't listen to anything else.". I assume this means they (that is: the underground) have tried negotiations before but were brushed off and had enforces sent down to quell any sort of uprising. Can we really blame him for fighting for the freedom of his people when nobody seems to listen to them when they try to talk? I think when Vi says that you can't negotiate with him, it's mostly coming from a place of anger. She wants to punish him for what he did to her, to her family and to Powder. Now that doesn't mean all his actions are justified, especially considering how much he harms the people he claims to try and free, but I really think that they could easily come to an agreement if they actually tried and talked for once rather than just sending down their enforces.

[@Hohum37]

This is one of the many ironies presented in the show. The reversals of the positions you expect people to take in that meeting are so well written - they are both surprising, yet completely based on their motivations / lack of knowledge. Ref Vi wanting to take out Silco. Yes, because she hates what he did - but he needs to be taken out before she (in her mind) rescues her sister - if that's done the other way around, they'd both be on the run from the most powerful force in the undercity.

[@Sinewmire]

Agreed. Vi is letting her own hatred for Silco colour her perceptions. Silco wants a negotiated settlement, his militancy was designed to bring Piltover to the table. As he told Vander, he doesn't need to win, he just needs to scare them. But that wouldn't help Vi.

[@LeGrosMomoLGM]

Bro you can't hate Sevika, most underated character in the whole show she a fucking queen

[@siki7558]

i hate her with a passion

[@SiMeGamer]

Definitely one of my favorites. She is extremely principled. Great fking character.

[@Micah_4D]

@@SiMeGamer When you see the rapport she has with Vander you can tell she respects him, but she wants more. In a way she is a mirror to Vi, she wants to fight and that mentality has had many years to flourish and she likely had no one like Vander to temper her anger. Then there are her words of admonition to Silco when she states that Jinx will come to him when she's ready. This, coming from someone who butts heads with Jinx and is frustrated constantly with her chaotic ways. Sevika demonstrates an appreciation and sympathy for the father-daughter relationship of Silco and Jinx.

[@chipstarshine8150]

@@Micah_4Dthe main difference though is that she has no one to lose where Vi does. She can afford to go to war.

[@marcps3522]

IKR! I've watched the show over 20 times (no joke) and after many views I just tried to watch the whole show from a single character perception and absolutelly Sevika is probably one of the most underrateds. She's there since the first arc (episode 2?) and the way she behaves and evolves, how she acts and her decisions... She's such a strong character and a really noble one I must say. Love her so much.

[@SinematicClips]

the shot of jayce looking at all the kids in silcos factory also shows another turn in the cycle of the cities history, another generation of undercity kids are gonna grow up looking at jayce and the enforcers as evil oppressors, this show is incredible at keeping in the grey area, there is never anything as simple as being black and white/ good and evil

[@anhuro8558]

Vi has the best nicknames: Cupcake, pretty boy, Jinx..

[@j.f.fisher5318]

Jayce: "I could have you arrested." Vi: "you really like to bandy that threat around. No idea what it does to you..." Jayce: "I've been arrested, the calamari in jail was a bit overcooked." Vi:

[@AppleBaron]

Bruh 😂

[@DarthRayj]

I had honestly completely forgotten that Jayce was arrested for a total of what, several hours? MAYBE one uncomfortable overnight, although it's implied to be a pretty rushed series of events.

[@bringmetheoat]

One thing I really like about the scene where Viktor runs for the first time, is that he out-paces the ship in the background. It's a nice parallel to the scene where he can't keep up with his toy boat as a child.

[@craigpayne3265]

Ironic, as his inventions are *still* getting away from him

[@Jaysil2]

Great reaction! Mel’s arc best arc - love how her mother acted as a “mirror” to her

[@j.f.fisher5318]

And the look of "oh shit, what have I done?" on her face. I love how Fortiche's animation can say more with a single expression than most shows could say with a few minutes of clunky expository dialogue.

[@acereporter73]

Arcane is steeped so much in family, I'm surprised Vin Diesel hasn't turned up...

[@kaijingarou6526]

19:10 "Someone confirmed Sky was that little girl in Viktor's flashback, so she's known him for her whole life. I just wanted to say that now she's TURNED INTO DUST. TAKEN HER LAST BREATH AS THE MAN SHE LOVED ERASED HER FROM EXISTENCE!" 🤣

[@_FirstLast_]

god i really hope she turns out to be Karma. I don't see anyone else talking about it but I've noticed an easter egg trail that seems to point that way. I really hope her story isn't done, and since Karma's lore is that she's actually a returning reincarnation throughout the history of Runeterra...it's highly plausible

[@kaijingarou6526]

Vi's point is hardly about the war though. She's just picking the path with greater chances of taking Silco down to get Powder back. Just like Jayce was pushing the idea of progress while that was just a side motivation for him at the moment compared to saving Viktor, Vi siding with the war now isn't really about the war at the moment. I know it's uncommon for a TV show to be faithful to its character motivations as they often jeopardize them in order to get the plot moving forward but this isn't that kind of show. It favors the characters over the plot, which I love, so you have to get used to that way of thinking. Just nitpicking though, you're catching up on a lot of complex themes in the show and coming up with good theories and I love your reactions to the show.

[@jaysenstoudt7610]

As a League of Legends player, this whole series is a very cool look at how the characters end up how they are in the games. But seeing Vi and Jayce get most of their signature moves and showing exactly how strong they are with their new Hextech weaponry and why creating these weapons could be a tragedy for the world if the blackmarket gets ahold of them is such an awesome and terrifying moment.

[@SmokeWiseGanja]

Especially now that the series is considered canon too. Can't wait for season two.

[@jaysenstoudt7610]

@@SmokeWiseGanja Just thinking about all the characters I know and love in these regions and the previous lore that could be introduced raises my anticipation so much every time I hear news about Arcane.

[@SmokeWiseGanja]

@@jaysenstoudt7610 just think, we might be able to actually explore the place fully when the mmo comes out one day.

[@3ΘΕΌΣ6]

Can't wait for Aatrox Vs Pantheon 🗿 Vs 🗿

[@Ri_5475]

i love seeing everyones reactions to the last ep, u 2 are not ready at all😭

[@simple_scribe]

Love your guy's vibe and reactions. Just discovered you, can't wait to check out your other stuff.

[@nathi060200]

Well, it IS he first time I hear someone call Caitlyn and VI’s relationship a “bromance” lmao

[@Jaysil2]

Cara during the fights 😂 lol I feel that

[@quigsthevicious]

Calling that Jinx had the gemstone was psychic powers or something.

[@chadbailey7038]

Another great reaction guys! The Doctor guys face is all messed up from back in Ep 3 when POWDER’s Monkey Bomb 💣 blew him up in his Shimmer lab! Take a look back and you will see him sitting there.

[@Mitsu2040]

The music at the end there was so awesome!

[@sirdromos2769]

silco idea was not to fight but to have power so that zaun can protect themself against piltover. He said many times that he doesn't want war against piltover, he wants to scared them like the cold war kinda

[@VashTown]

I know some people are weirded out by child workers here, but recall that the second scene of Arcane is the kids doing "a job". They're Vander's kids too, the de facto leader of the undercity, and if work is good enough for the top level, it's good all the way down. It's not SURPISING, but it still shitty especially considering how good topside has it.

[@Sinewmire]

Real life drug dealers usually bring in family to work in their factories too - mothers and sisters typically - as family can be trusted.

[@Vincent-tz4jl]

Damn I had no idea you had a side channel, been eager to watch an Arcane reaction for ages!

[@CaraPrezReacts]

Works out perfect 🙏🏼

[@ranniwolves]

silco finding jinx on the bridge hits different after s2 ep5… he was probably having serious flashbacks

[@alarichrul6639]

Good reaction. However, i have to add something. First of all, Sevika is great, i didn't like her at first, but after the third or fourth rewatch she is one of my favorite. Second, Silco is not the wolf, he doesn't want any war, he said it in episode 3, talking to Vander. Third, Victor doesn't have any addiction to shimmer, but his goal was to rapair his body, lungs, not the leg. So he just needed to repeat the process. Fourth, factory battle scene is great, but it is sad, that people care more about death of one boy, while there was a real bloodbath, dozens of enforcers from both sides were slaughtered. People who also had lifes.

[@nordenx]

I agree. Silco is a fox, he actually is an "industrialist" raising funds through both legitimate and underhanded business dealings to enrich the under-city and building shimmer soldiers to project "power" and "scare" the topsiders. The "kids" working for him are not "forced" to work, rather most have no options in the under-city other than working in the mines or other opportunistic enterprises ran by companies from Piltover. The kid who died released the shimmer guards that "killed" enforcers, both are just doing their jobs - they needlessly died because Vi and Jayce couldn't see beyond their fist and hammer to envision a diplomatic solution. Also, Silco never wavered in his goal for a nation of Zaun, but Vi changed from hating Piltover to working with them.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

I see the leg as a test - if it went wrong, the leg could be amputated and he wouldn't be all that much worse off. The leg succeeded and now he wants to do the actual cure.

[@Hohum37]

@@nordenx We have no idea if the children are forced labour or not.

[@Belbecat]

The answer: everyone is right but also wrong

[@Nyx__]

Not me drinking a white monster just as this popped up in my feed

[@gastonpaterno127]

Viktor running scene is often misinterpreted as a victory for him, but it is not. There is a very VERY good video about Arcane cinematography analisis in which it is explained that Viktor is running "counter-clockwise", or towards the opposite way of how western culture expresses moving forward, as he is involuting instead of evolving, and his scream seems to be filled with despair instead of joy. "Love and legacy are the price for progress" the Doctor said when he gave him the Shimmer

[@rromano158]

That long drawn-out fall of the child after being shot by Jayce was just for dramatic effect. IMO in the beginning of the series Vi had a deep-seated hatred for the Enforcers and Piltover in general because of how they treated anybody from the undercity, then after learning about Silco and that he "had" her sister, her sole purpose was to take down Silco and get "Powder" back.

[@Crazy_Diamond_75]

Heimerdinger is finally listening, and finally opening his eyes :(

[@Jeans11234567]

So Powder bacame Jinx and Sky became Powder :b

[@johnbowersox738]

This episodes has the best team-ups. Ekko and Heimmerdinger plus Jayce and Vi. Neither team-up I expected but awesome.

[@colpul2103]

As a cinephile the transition at the start from the neckless in the blood fading into sort of abstract out of focus then Mel sitting up in bed awoken by the nightmare/explosion and realizing it is one of her paintings is the best I've seen. Better than Lean's struck match into rising sun, better than Kubrick's tossed bone to space station... It isn't just cool AF, it tells you so much about Mel's character and her arc to that point. I cannot think of a better-done transition in film or TV. Side note: when Finn tells Sevika "There's bigger fish than Silco" notice it cuts to Mel's mom arriving. In cinema language this is foreshadowing that Mel's mom is the bigger fish. Notice when she talks to Mel how she already knows Jayce may be working on hextec weapons and 'problems festering in the Under City'. Watch, whether Mel lives or dies her mom will be a much bigger character in season 2.

[@kruscher5504]

We neeeed the next part 😮

[@kellyramirez7465]

Sky literally became Victor’s right hand

[@Jdubayou]

Took you guys wayyy too long to realize Vi and Caitlyn were into each other.

[@Fionalah]

Enjoyable and perceptive reaction, but you need to stop thinking about 'good' and 'bad'. This isn't Marvel or Star Wars, it's more grounded. Nobody is entirely good or bad, and Mel is a great example of that.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

Exactly this when it comes to Mel. And same with Vi. Even if she were the protagonist (she's not), we are only "meant" to see this from Vi's perspective to the extent that the failure of her methods can give us a window into our own tendencies to rush to judgement in complex situations.

[@Hohum37]

I agree. It's fine to think about good and bad, just not as a completely binary choice. It's a spectrum - some characters are very close to the good end, some the bad - some waver up and down the scale. Discussing quite where each character is on that spectrum can be very interesting - especially whether the changes are actually to the characters, or to our perceptions of them because of new information.

[@3lmanuuu]

23:31 many people dont get this part.. look at the kid's eyes... he was clearly on shimmer

[@Hohum37]

I just looked at that. The highlights in his eyes do have a slight purple shade, but so do Jayce's seconds later - and his white clothes have a purple tint. It's just the lighting.

[@3lmanuuu]

@@Hohum37 think about this , the kid works there , it might be possible that the kids were on some level of shimmer drug after all

[@kjws95]

You guys are lucky, you only have to wait 1 year for season 2

[@mynameishades2113]

21:40 true

[@アキコ2003]

7:01 weird, most people i know love sevika, including me

[@poggers9133]

and yeah, VI and Cait canonicaly married

[@troikas3353]

Vi is upset by the Council wanting to negotiate because she knows what that means for Undercity. They wouldn't be saving any lives, they'd just be washing their own hands of having to deal with the mess Piltover itself created. Silco's a monster that has conducted lethal human experimentation on his own people, created and used child soldiers as disposable muscle, used child labor in his drug factories (which convieniently double as human shields if raided by enforcers) and he's beaten an addict to death just to make himself feel better, he's gaslit and abused Powder, he's willfully flooded the streets of Undercity with a horrifically destructive supermeth just to gain power and control and he's deliberately put the Chembarons in charge who themselves brutalize the people of Undercity for their own profit. Aside from Sevika none of his people even seem to care about the "revolution" he allegedly wants. Negotiating with Silco just ends with Topside getting a deal to continue benefiting from "Zaun" through cheap labor without getting their hands dirty, meanwhile turning a blind eye to all the horrors and suffering Silco has propagated there.

[@dolunayceylinbesen2837]

You bpth are really not ready fpr the finale 😂

[@aaronhedlund8136]

Note the scene when Victor starts running - in the background there is a huge ship in the distance and as he runs, he starts to outpace it. This ties back to the scene of his as a kid where his little boat gets away from him and he can’t run fast enough to keep up with it. Details and callbacks like this are what make this show S-tier. Also, note the kids that are looking at Jayce after the fight in the factory. Think about how they saw it - the lead councilor, the “Champion of Progress” just shows up out of nowhere at their job with an army and just starts wrecking everything. Killing guards (probably their fathers and brothers), killing their friend, and then just walks out. Yeah - there is nuance to it all, but they don’t see it. They are now so radicalized against the upper city it’s not even funny. This show hits so hard because of how succinctly it depicts the complex real world issues happening today and how it’s so hard to navigate the world when nothing is good or bad, just shades of grey all the time. Heroes with deep flaws, villains with understandable motives, all grey everywhere.

[@Hohum37]

There is a smaller ship infront of the larger one that even more resembles his toy. Regarding grey - people also fall into the trap of thinking of all grey being the same shade. There is a tendency to go from the absurd simplification of good/bad being a binary choice, to an even more simple idea that everything is grey and the same.

[@DI-QueenmoEMino]

One of the things about Arcane is that there's are no truly "good" or "evil" people. All of the characters are deeply very flawed and morally complex in how they act and behavior similar to actual real people. You guys ever heard of morally ambiguous or morally gray characters right?

[@morlock2012]

And no clean fights. Every one has civilian casualties, doesn't achieve what it should have done, or has other costly side-effects.

[@-Tejdog-]

second season next winter :(

[@bruh.3662]

Great reactions as always! Would love to see you react to the league of legends cinematics, they are pretty short but they share the same universe as arcane, I highly recommend them !

[@marcps3522]

Well, not all of them! Care with skin cinematics are they're all parallel universes and if someone doesn't know what he's watching may be a bit confused! But yeah! I'd love to see the reaction to some of them :)

[@RG-gd3zu]

this children trust Silko and his monsters more than the Piltover police. Maybe Silko is not so bad, but maybe Piltover is even worse.

[@abadyr_]

Or maybe the mob's kids are brainwashed

[@SmokeWiseGanja]

when you think about it, what else is there for those kids, that'd probably the only thing even remotely close to a job where they might be able to make a few coins for food.

[@tvolz9749]

this is nonsense. These kids have no choice. Sure Piltover doesnt look out for its citizens in the undercity and that causes all this shit. But Silco is just abusing them which is at least as bad.

[@calronkeltaran493]

@@tvolz9749 we will see very soon, that not only poor kids without a choice are in those factories but kids with influential parents as well

[@ayoCC]

It's easy in this story to believe you must strike first and escalate. But at the end of the day, it just wasn't true. There's always a way to understand each other, to win together. I think that literally undercity needs to be represented in the council, that's the only true solution. First, a trusted individual, then a democratically elected councillor, with a commitment to extend council seats to have equal representation of zaun and piltover over the course of 50 years. And IMMEDIATE action to make Zaun first more safe, then more prosperous, then more free. Safety and prosperity is going to be step 1 with the trusted Zaunite, free and fair will come afterwards with the democratically elected councillor.

[@sandercohen5543]

I really liked the whole viktor and sky romance thing they had going on... but i suppose it had to happen, to create the victor we all know and love... :/

[@Raynor696]

OH NO i read the 8 as a 9 and i got blueballed 😱 WHERE`S THE FINALE?????

[@dominoShane]

I was wondering when yall were going to catch on to the Vi/Cait ship lol

[@j.f.fisher5318]

Now on a rewatch it will be great. :)

[@TukaihaHithlec]

21:42 The word you’re looking for is “Visexual”

[@v3165]

Its crazy to me no one mentions how many time vi LEAVES jinx AGAIN! to me slyco is the only person who truly loves jinx. Vi leaves her over an over again for someone shes known for DAYS!

[@Shenniffer]

My guy said "What in the Bioshock man". I see you good sir.

[@VeggieGamer]

Sky Young ended up very similar to Powder. :( ^ *not proud of myself

[@j.f.fisher5318]

because she fell down a well? I must now scourge myself in penance.

[@VeggieGamer]

@@j.f.fisher5318 Wow, she actually does! She really is just like Powder!

[@NeedsContent]

"This is fucking awesome!" *Child becomes a casualty* "Oh..."

[@zarakikenpachiish]

Imagine the season 2 ends with this violin play from 24:00 into a reveal of Jhin mask and his laugh

[@Shenniffer]

In the first episode as the 4 walk through the lanes you see 2 people dressed in robes that look like Jhins Cosmic skin.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

I'd bet we get Ionia in S3

[@Arkayjiya]

Vi is mostly right because she knows that the concessions the council is willing to make are not enough to satisfy SIlco. If you've seen Ep 9, you know that Vi is underestimating someone a bit in that regard but it's not really her fault, her entire life the council has been exactly like she assumes they are: Politicians who don't care and are only willing to give up the most miniscule amount of power to resolve the situation which sure as hell isn't enough to satisfy Silco. Plus if Vi hadn't done what she does later in the episode, even the person she underestimates wouldn't have done what they did next episode either, so Vi still made this possible. That being said, in theory Mel is right too, there is a diplomatic solution and it is better than attacking SIlco, it's just that Vi doesn't believe the council is willing to pay the price it would cost to pursue it, and she's right. As of yet, the council is not ready to pay that price so negotiations are doomed to fail. Of course there's also the factor that Vi's motives aren't pure, she is gunning for Silco specifically rather than trying to prevent war (although right now she sees no distinction between helping the Undercity and getting rid of Silco so it's not like her arguments are fake), but I'd like to believe that if the council had said "we'll give him everything he wants as long as he stops making shimmer or drown the undercity under destructive drugs" she would have been horribly conflicted about it. She's gonna try and save Powder no matter what, but the way she would do it might be different if she thought that how she's planning to do it would clash with the best future for the Undercity.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

interesting perspective. Ok, I'll give Vi a wee bit more credit in that scene. ;)

[@LegendJoe3063]

Silco never loved jinx he only wanted to manipulate her into madness vander was jinx real father he loved her unconditionally and sacrificed himself like a true father.

[@4restFinders]

Worst part about this video; can't like it twice.

[@dzhk143]

Just recently finished league of legend world Championship it's really fun