We Aren't Even a Type One Civilization | David Kipping

This is a clip from tomorrow's podcast release with David Kipping. In it, he and Dr. Peterson discuss the different types of civilizations on the cosmic scale, and what signs we should look for when confirming their existence elsewhere.
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[@lukewilliamrimmington]

Wow, Prof. Jordan Peterson with Prof. David Kipping. Did not expect to see that on my 2024 Bingo card.

[@ShaggyGriff96]

yep, JP making moves - it's so good

[@YTCrossedG]

Have you ever speculated a guest of Jordan's? Just curious. ! Thanks

[@nangephriam1211]

Me too i never expect nor imagine to happen.

[@Kelnx]

No kidding. I'm a big fan of Dr. Kipping and have been subscribed to his channel for a while now. Great to see JP sit down and talk to him.

[@romulus3345]

Pure science fiction Mary Poppins rubbish.

[@jasonnikolic]

Oh boy I wasn't expecting these 2 together. More guests like this please.

[@geolitz2665]

Just go watch a Marvel Movie if you’re looking for an attractive man talking absolute gibberish about space in a sexy voice.

[@VictorNolochemical]

Rite ?! His specialty of planets is quite amazing as well.

[@geolitz2665]

@@VictorNolochemical He’s literally talking about entire galaxies enveloped in Dyson spheres. Do you understand how many galaxies you would need to mine to gather the amount of material needed to surround just one entire galaxy with a Dyson sphere or Dyson sphere adjacent technology? That is the only way the physics we understand could produce the results that he’s blathering on about. And if a technology is being used that doesn’t conform to our understanding of physics, then our measuring devices based on our understanding of physics would be useless to detect their technology. This type of nonsense only sounds intellectual to those who are weak minded when the speaker is as attractive and confident in the unearned way that this speaker presents himself. He’s a classic snake oil salesman who is using your ignorance to make his money.

[@VictorNolochemical]

@@geolitz2665 Just watched the rest. No, seeking truth or answers is not futile nor nefarious. Penicillin was discovered by chance as a clear example. We need to dare to ask challenging questions of ourselves.

[@all0utmetal735]

@geolitz2665 🤦🏻‍♂️ geez man.. I’m actually embarrassed for you lol. You clearly don’t know anything about David.

[@afringedgentian5426]

Goodness, I first learned about the Dyson sphere from an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, back when I was a kid! (Kudos to anyone who remembers the episode). That was back in the days when writers actually knew how to write moving and beautiful human interest science fiction instead of the postmodern tosh we get today. How lucky I am to grow up steeped in that good writing and I believe that those influences shape my work today. May I do credit to them. Very much looking forward to the conversation . With love from Ruth Anne

[@baahcusegamer4530]

“Show me the Enterprise. No bloody A, B, C *or* D” ;) I loved that episode (Relics)! Made for a good audiobook too.

[@afringedgentian5426]

@@baahcusegamer4530 I LOVE the audiobook! There was only one true Scotty.

[@charlescoult]

Star Trek TNG is best Star Trek

[@nutbastard]

IIRC they found the Dyson sphere because Scotty from TOS crashed into it or was stuck in orbit around it, loaded himself into the transporter buffer, and was there for like 150 years?

[@PolarExpress_11-10]

Intellectually stimulating to watch this but it always shows how much we humans have been jumping the gun in the last 120 years. In a blip of time, we have developed all this technology that is based in the manipulation of fossil fuel energy, but we insist on all these fantastical concepts. Black Holes, Dyson Sphere's and Type's of civilizations based on how much energy we can harness?!. Maybe I should be a science fiction writer.

[@minomokwa744]

Thank you, Dr. Peterson, for having such highly interesting guests. God bless you.

[@iurk0_streaming]

If there is no galactic empire, then we make one, FOR THE EMPEROR!

[@ryanhutchins2634]

The Imperium of Man is imminent.

[@Nezghoul92]

Here I stumbled upon a man of culture. The Emperor Protects, brother.

[@josephpasquarella2123]

Peace, freedom, security and justice!

[@Rendell001]

@@Nezghoul92 That would be the Imperium of Man. the First Galactic Empire is something else entirely!

[@Nezghoul92]

@@Rendell001 we’ll just fast forward to the Imperium. ;)

[@aliendroneservices6621]

Congrats on reaching 8M subs, Jordan!

[@enviosinterdimencionales8612]

Bro is famous

[@smileback9307]

Thank you for the interview with Tommy. Mrs Peterson seem very much like a wonderful lady. 😊

[@Suhnik]

He seemed so genuinely happy to be asked about his work and his passion in it 😊

[@coryfarnes1735]

The physicist issac arthor would be another great interview on these subjects.

[@jsbrads1]

Isaac has a BS in Physics, not saying he isn’t very intelligent and he probably learned more since college than most people with PhDs, but the term physicist usually isn’t used for someone with a BS.

[@christophersnedeker]

Yeah love Issac.

[@Loquacious_Jackson]

gay

[@ky41411]

Ahh yeah that would be good, love his show very informative much better since he upgraded his recording equipment and got a better handle on his speech impediment

[@christophersnedeker]

@@Loquacious_Jackson how is Issac gay?

[@Maestro4862]

Pleasantly surprised to see David on here! No doubt he will be attacked for it. I really enjoy Cool Worlds channel!

[@256shadesofgrey]

From supporting a BLM event 4 years ago to being interviewed by JBP now... I hope there is some portion of the interview that talks about his redpilling.

[@xGaLoSx]

@@256shadesofgrey has he been redpilled?

[@vebjsand]

David Kipping is amazing. Can't wait for the whole podcast!

[@justinengland9814]

I love how Dr Peterson is interviewing people that are seen as 'undesirable' in the mainstream! Such as Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage etc. The interviews are really eye-opening and insightful!

[@emartinezr]

Geez Dr Peterson, your video/image quality is outstanding.

[@day3455]

It’s so good to see two of my heros discussing!!!!

[@samiam.402]

I'm so glad Cool Worlds is on here! A really interesting channel I've followed for years! (less a fan of his podcast but love the channel itself.)

[@dwolmarans2463]

I so badly want to have a conversation with Dr. Jordan Peterson. I'm a nobody really, but one can dream.

[@kdiamo454]

You’re you, thats all that matters 😊

[@moorshound3243]

You gotta have a dream

[@erine.5680]

The mass majority of us are at the same 'nobody' boat with you my friend,so that kind of makes us 'everybody' if you think about it

[@afringedgentian5426]

If you really want to talk to Dr. Peterson, you’ve got to do something. It doesn’t matter who you are. It matters what you do. Do something extraordinary. Write a book. Build a business. Make something. DO something. Stand up for something you feel strongly about and suffer the slings and arrows of outraged fortune. If you want to talk to Dr. Peterson, you have to be the kind of person he would want to talk to, and you won’t be that sitting around dwelling on what a nobody you are and dreaming. That’s the exact opposite of his message and I’d think that anyone so moved by Dr. Peterson’s message that he really wanted to talk to him would have figured that out. Millions of people “really want to talk to Dr. Peterson” but if you’re serious about it, you’re going to have to make it happen instead of wistfully sitting in the comment section hoping Dr. Peterson reads your comment and is just so moved by your earnestness that he reaches out to you. If you want to get the attention of a very busy public figure, you have to earn that.

[@susanbernier9399]

You have all ready started the process by having the vision… so good for you. If you are willing to share what would be the topic you two would talk about? 💕🇨🇦

[@pspboy7]

The concept of the Dyson Sphere or even a Ringworld structure has always intrigued me!

[@chrisjbarton]

I know, like what is taking these governments so long to collaborate on some ideas? To busy stealing peoples money and sending them to war! So stupid! I think Elon is building a Dyson Sphere with Star Link. He is the General of Space Force.

[@vulpinemachine]

There's lot of really great scifi that explores these topics quite a bit, have you read any of it?

[@Shway_Maximus]

I just heard about your loss Jordan, and im sorry to hear. I know that i am blessed to have both of my parents, and i know that the day will come when i no longer have them. I wish you the best.

[@jokerace8227]

Oh, fun. I also enjoy David's channel, Cool Worlds.

[@monok3727]

Which channel? Where? Can't find it. Thank you!

[@mrstring4592]

@@monok3727 the name is Cool Worlds

[@monok3727]

@@mrstring4592 Ah, I see it now in the original post... :-D Thanks.

[@dr.sbrule5817]

Cool Worlds, Astrum and John Michael Godier are all fantastic 👍

[@user-ix1hb8yn4c]

When talking about aliens, everyone is always interested in technology, but to me, the society aspect is far more interesting to me. I personally don't imagine a civilization becoming space faring like we imagine without everyone getting along. Now, how did they get to the point of "getting along"? Did they come to a logical none emotional agreement on issues, did one side basically kill off the opposing side, did they just leave them behind, did they have even the similar issues we have or do they still deal with the same things while becoming a type1,2,3 civilization?

[@AlekseyMaksimovichPeshkov]

Also what type of music would aliens have? Would they have the chromatic scale structure, C,D,E,F,G,A and B and the sharps and flats between, or would they have new, different types of tones we are not aware of? What is the structures of their songs and compositions? And what are there rhythms?

[@NicolaiLindahl]

I love the idea of the topic in this video! Interested in hearing the rest of the conversation!

[@Nah-ah]

What a crossover!!! 🤯🤯😍🙌🏽

[@benhilder8088]

Two brilliant men/minds in the same room.. I can watch and listen to these guys chat all day

[@bhuvaneshs.k638]

I gave a speech on this topic like when was in high school. Nobody understood and called me a nerd

[@MaddEndd]

Ok was not expecting to find Dr. Kipping here, but hey, might give anew perspective on his work.

[@HelloKittySGTC]

3:50 is a keynote. That we move to a virtual world. And become a stranger to ourselves.

[@ianstuart5660]

But never with your sidekick, Mimi? 😂😂

[@xGaLoSx]

Cool Worlds is one of my favorite channels! Didn't expect this.

[@piehound]

TYSM David Kipping and Dr.Peterson.

[@myview3793]

Always love watching cool worlds David explains his topics magnificently 👍

[@ChaosActual1]

At this point, might as well try to get Dr. Peterson to interview Isaac Arthur. I honestly wish anyone well known would so his work could be brought to more people's attention.

[@harleysvideomysteries7885]

Where is the rest of this? I love Prof David Kipping

[@robertopon]

Where is the whole podcast with this guy, hasn't been released?

[@URProductions]

Blurb says the whole podcast'll be released tomorrow (July 11)

[@user-yx9se1wl4j]

That is one Brilliant Human!!!!!

[@George_in_Howden]

Or perhaps the opposite, living in a universe of his own making.

[@all0utmetal735]

@George_in_Howden Huh? Just speaking out of context again? lol.

[@huongquan259]

Thank you so much!

[@aoneesharunsharma6045]

Interview Isaac Arthur of Science and Futurism with Isaac Arthur next.

[@peter300pete]

Astrophysics is a hell of an interesting topic

[@fifimcgee3977]

Ohhhhh I love "Cool Worlds"

[@Wingedmagician]

this podcast is special man

[@davidcontreras8583]

made me laugh 😂 In a empathic and relatable way.

[@codyaucoin3412]

Wonderful to have all these theories on the different types of civilizations, but um, we are the only one we yet know about. So to our knowledge we are as advanced as it is possible to be at this point.

[@TheRuix1983]

It’s amazing how science fiction influences actual science.

[@valerieserval4731]

thank you

[@BeAlphaX]

This is incredible discussion... Thank you...

[@baahcusegamer4530]

Cool Worlds has so much intellectual goodness to offer. This is the sort of crossover of channels I have been waiting for!

[@all0utmetal735]

The only other podcast I was more excited about was Terrence Howard returning to the JRE with Eric Weinstein lol

[@all0utmetal735]

This excited about*

[@evo1ov3]

Kipping and Peterson. Wow. Seriously i need to go back to school. Because i predict subject matter experts on the philosophy of science. Are going to be in huge demand in the next couple of years.

[@WorldDiscoveryPath]

Thankful

[@annamarielewis7078]

How did this show up on my feed? How incredibly interesting. I must indulge.

[@raised8471]

Firstly, just how much matter would be required to build a harvesting network for solar system, not to say a galaxy; secondly what for would you need so much energy; thirdly, we are not all-knowing, more advanced civilizations might have discovered alternative methods of harvesting/generating energy which wouldn't require such an excess. The very fact that Jordan listens to this with a straight face is quite telling. I am under impression that it's an attempt to build an image of a modern era "philosopher", without being at forefront of the science, like the ancient ones were.

[@claytonribardo7895]

I've been wanting to see Dr. Kipping more, someone suggested it to Joe Rogan to have him on and Joe said he would love to. We need to see this content more, especially on JRE

[@llN3M3515ll]

It seems likely that if you are of the technology capacity to create a Dyson sphere, there are likely better power sources.

[@all0utmetal735]

Go on…

[@Neognostic-pk5wu]

​​@@all0utmetal735It's just solar energy - if you're capable of developing a megastructure of that scale, you've probably moved far enough along technologically to manufacture your own miniature stars, or unlocked Zero Point Energy.

[@JSp3ct0r]

I think it's important to understand that if scientists do find undeniable evidence of extraterrestrial life, especially intelligent life, that knowledge will not be released to the public. It would, quite literally, flip society upside down.

[@leftmikerightmike]

Go clean your room David.

[@coblos101]

100

[@SH-lb1nu]

Unlike his argument a Type Sigma civilization is where before you talk about cotton candy space ships you focus on making sure public schools turn your kids into gae communists. Our a civilization where or government doesn't put down the vulnerable like sick dogs or abort every inconvient baby

[@maggietaylor9713]

😂😅😂

[@jus4000kicks]

I suppose you thought that was terribly funny.

[@kepnjem]

💯

[@karenbrown4294]

Fantastic interview ❤

[@jojoco120]

Super Interesting interview!

[@Faustrecht2010]

type 1 ... able to use all the energy arriving and on /in their planat. like ...waves, volcanos, wind, sunlight ... even earthquakes.

[@goathead3329]

What type is a few harnessing the energy of the masses? No wonder no one visits us

[@brandispry576]

I must argue that there is NO such thing as “wasted heat” coming from a laptop. There is always a cat nearby enjoying the “wasted heat” 😂 🐈

[@anthonydane2781]

Like to see Dr Peterson interview Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel. Off topic but that would be a Very Exciting dialogue especially with the Gospel series on its way. Very excited about that.

[@CaFe73100]

Great interview 👍

[@Montdose]

what an awesome shirt Kipping is wearing. Keep up the great content, Dr. Peterson :)

[@SmilingShadow-fz3jt]

The logic flaw in the Kardashev model is that it does not take energy efficiency under consideration. A supercomputer of the 1990s used 20 MWh of energy to do what a modern smartphone does with 5 Wh. Our civilisation is currently generating enough computational power to require the entire power of a star in terms of computers from 1990s. A truly advanced civilization will do what we do using a fraction of the energy and generating no waste heat.

[@ReprobateContagion-dp2hc]

we are savages! have you heard about Western family courts? I was sadistically abused, not allowed warm clothing and enough sleep when pregnant, called names, told that now that we were married there would be no sex as,(it later turned out, mistresses are for that, (human trafficking!). My husband hid mistresses even during the wedding day in a church and then ordered me to turn a blind eye or he'd take my baby off me with bribe "as everyone is on sale" despite me being like a single mum and him having no interest in family life and often disappearing with lovers for days on end,mobile off. When I finally fled, the court gave him full child custody of the baby as "the mother is negative towards the father" for trying to tell them about the abuse,but was aggressively shouted at to stop. One criminal court senior judge who was not even working in family law or ever in our town, turned up for the preliminary hearing, to stage the case at the start. He screamed at me, agressively interrogated me himself, tried to force me to admit something I knew was not true as it was evident he had planned on staging the case based on that "admission" and when I refused to "admit" despite his aggressiveness, he simply fabricated in the judgement I had admitted it,calling it "my finding for the main judge", which was terrifying. Someone to do something that criminal and evil to a baby and an abused mother must have done it many times and was part of some racket,many believe! The CAFCASS officer fabricated the whole report, I believe for £5000 bribe,I know why I am saying this. I obtained evidence from the police, SS etc for her fabrication, and even found,accidentally, another abused mum in the same situation,young children taken away from her while the same officer had fabricated the report. We took the evidence to the CAFCASS manager who told us she could not be prosecuted as she'd just retired. Then the abuser dumped the now depressed and gaunt baby on strangers hundreds of milies away,worked abroad and my son grew up like an orphan. The abuse of that child haunts me daily and I often cry, 20 years on.I was also ordered to forgo my divorce settlement or may never see my depressed baby again,and thrown out on the street childless and penniless while, i believe, the lot shared my money in the corruption. Then I learnt I was one of tens of thousands of victims,all gagged,including the media in charge of whom are often the family and mates of the top judges. And those are globally-orchestrated crimes in all Western countries where the judges, independent and supervised by no one, collude with each other to set trends for the people yet hide the truth for them to abuse as many as possible,and milk some for cash,many believe. All the whistleblowers are immediately sacked. CAFCASS officers regularly fabricate reports,some are thought to do it for bribe and also jealousy towards the mothers, bitches,to destroy their lives. Some,like mine,are so evil, that they abuse the young children, destroy them just to destroy the mother and follow us around the court and laugh in our faces knowing they will never be brought to justice as the very top judges ignore the criminalities. When I tried to expose the criminality on an industrial scale in my case, President of The High Court personally saw me to intimidate me or I would regret it,despite admitting that the case was horrific. All journalists ,including the one who wrote this article,,MPs, most academics, British human rights lawyers, policymakers, top global feminists ,First ladies who preach women's right to poor countries, like some lying rock stars, etc have known about these atrocities,orchetsrated in all Western countries with colluding unaccountable judges under strict secrecy, some for decades. Estimated 10m victims across the West in the last 50 years! Child sale,corruption,sadism, shocking abuse of basic human rights, child abuse, thousands dead by suicide- their families gagged, the public having children not allowed to know about it so that as many fall into the trap as possible. We are talking about divorcing a sociopath, a crook,serious sadistic abuser who hates family life, who offers bribe and abuses his family to extremes,not ordinary men who have decency. Unfortunately, sociopaths,psychopaths,the scum of humanity always claw their wat to the top everywhere and destroy lives. Metaphysically, they are apparently, led by the Satan and will regret it all when they cross over as there are no secret and our every move and thought are recorded and there will be a price to pay,even for minor things,let alone something as serious as this. Things we do when no one is watching are the most dangerous for us in eternity as God is watching at all times and every single emotion we caused in others we will relive ourselves,but apparently,millions of times magnified. It sends shivers down my spine what the abusers of my baby and I, some of whom are with bombastic titles now, for their criminalities) are going to go through when they pass. You cannot think of a more tragic and wasted life than one of theirs!

[@DistantEarlyWarning]

I really believe that intelligent life in the universe is extremely rare. I do believe they are out there, though, and it would be so exciting to discover them.

[@abovemotivationx]

This is one of the intelligent and good to know... Thank you to both of you...

[@chicojcf]

Thanks for discussing this topic.

[@henryconner780]

Dang you got 8 mil subs now lol. Didn't even notice. Your planted a seed to change my life, now Im getting catechized in the Orthodox Christian Church, thanks! Will check out this full episode on DW

[@AGaleonLapuz]

I've been fascinated w/ the Kardashev scale ever since kurzgesagt mentioned them. It's fascinating where humans will be in technology & space hundreds of million years from now. Too bad, I'll never see it. So, I can only imagine.

[@sincereflowers3218]

There’s was a research paper examining the possibilities of Dyson sphere like objects. Very interesting stuff.

[@mattratoni1739]

There's always someone smarter in the room

[@Amplifier786]

Well said ❤

[@markberman6708]

We are currently a negative 3 type civilization teetering on a razors edge of immolation.

[@jefferyjimson8574]

I recommend learning about the toxins in water and how they can affect your health and mental health then avoiding them by drinking distiled or reverse osmosis water or a zero water filter then also using a shower head filter such as aquahomegroup 15 stage. Also avoiding calcifying agents which calcify the pineal gland which affects the circadian rhythm so sleep and energy production (chlorine, calcium carbonate, magnesium glycinate). There are many more things and feel free to look in my channel bio for the book I wrote including all the things.

[@Pax_Mayn3]

I recommend you actually do some research and understand that drinking distilled water will make you very ill.

[@danf1862]

Wtf are you peddling? It has nothing to do with the topic.

[@jefferyjimson8574]

@@danf1862 I am talking about what affects people’s health and mental health which has everything to do with the type of civilisation that is seen.

[@Pax_Mayn3]

@@danf1862 He's telling people to drink distilled water and make people sick.

[@TomLilletveit]

Jordan Peterson is embodying the energy of the all grown up lion king, Simba.

[@regzzuse280]

Jordan, get Enoch Burke on your podcast.

[@shotgunstanbo]

Sir Fred's Hoyle's alien speech says it all.

[@rahn45]

Extrapolating what humanity might be able to accomplish if given hundreds of millions of years is beyond most people's comprehension to begin with. For some reason a lot of people innately assume we as a species will simply self-destruct and as such don't even bother to entertain any idea of human progression, and push for regression back into the caves. Human civilization has already built grand things over the course of generations, and that continues to happen; and this is I should remind people in spite of people who will and have burned many things to the ground. Plenty of ruins of great cities and structures across the planet as evidence of those events. Yet in spite of that, civilization pushes ever forward. The doomsayers have been loud, but those who push for the future have always been louder.

[@helterskelter6519]

Combat with a Dragon In the account of the Legenda Aurea, St. George is said to have passed by a city called Silene, which is in the province of Libya. Beside this city was a pond, and in this pond lived a “dragon which envenomed all the country”. The people of the city decided to feed the beast with two sheep each day so that it would not harm them. When the dragon’s appetite was not satiated, the people of the city began sacrificing human beings to it, “Then was an ordinance made in the town that there should be taken the children and young people of them of the town by lot, and every each one as it fell, were he gentle or poor, should be delivered when the lot fell on him or her.” St. George brought the dragon to Silene, converted the king and his people to the Christian faith, and then slayed the dragon. It has been said that St. George’s military prowess made him popular amongst the knights of Medieval Europe, especially following the crusades. During the First Crusade, for example, an apparition of St. George is said to have aided the crusaders during their successful siege of Antioch in 1098 Of course the ultimate dragon is Satan, and he will be dealt with by Christ .

[@user-fo4wd7hy4b]

Thoughts are grand yet the study is premature. It's like tapping on a melon. Oh simple ones, I love and embrace your trials.

[@TheScotian82]

Did he say "susistics"? 😄 That actually works.

[@foxtrotunit1269]

He's using statistics to suss it all out - therefore - he's doing sussistics (a classical field of research from ancient Rome or Greece or whatever)

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

Most statistics are sustistics, especially if government is involved!

[@michaelanthony4750]

probably more accurate

[@Ms.HoneyBee]

David Kipping! Awesome 😊

[@jimrogers7425]

While this man appears to be 'doing good' his efforts would be much better served in things that have a more direct, daily effect on civilization. All of this existential talk only looks at 'what may be' in the future without really addressing the current conditions in a way that has fewer trade-offs than the crazy stuff being proposed for the world. Yes... tradeoffs! As Thomas Sowell has said, there are no solutions, only tradeoffs! The sooner we realize this fact, the more will be willing to actually see the unintended consequences of policies! Sorry for the rant, JBP!!

[@Arthera0]

you need both. tomorrow is short sighted when it comes to long term development

[@zeals936]

Without thoughts and minds like his, we’d still be using rock tools. People are already and feverishly working on direct and daily effects in benefit to civilization.

[@shadowdawg04]

@@zeals936 Without minds like Sowell, we are all just fooling ourselves... jockeying for position and money!

[@SpeedfreakUK]

You couldn’t have even written your post without the work of theoretical physicists. Silly man.

[@shadowdawg04]

@@SpeedfreakUK Yeah, writing on clay tablets, the Phoneticians and Samaritans really had their theoretical physic labs up to snuff...

[@thesatisfiedcustomer4869]

Why dont they just say they have no idea.

[@peanutsthebard]

Why don't you just keep that to yourself?

[@DEATH_3_GOD]

Who are "they," and what do they not have an idea about ?

[@kasuo7039]

It’s hard to be humble when your biology forces you to believe. Going against your biology is scary and meaningless.

[@willywonka4340]

We're considered type 0.7 ish civilization at this point in time, FWIW

[@monkyyy0]

Says who? We don't even cover the land, much less the oceans

[@willywonka4340]

@@monkyyy0 Says Mr. "billions and billions " himself, the late Carl Sagan. He said this back in the 80s or so. He estimated that, according to revised scale, 1970s humanity would be Type 0.7 (about 10 terawatts), equivalent to 0.16% of the power available on Earth. This level is characterized, according to him, by the ability to self-destruct, which he calls "technological adolescence". So, by 2024, we're probably at 0.75

[@monkyyy0]

@@willywonka4340 fuck him then he cant do math and made up his own scale to make it about hating nukes to make .7^x=.0016; you need x=18 when acceptable log scales are like 10 or e and I find it dubious to believe we are using .0016% of the sunlight

[@eldermillennial8330]

@@willywonka4340 That’s where we should be, but Venezuela’s & increasingly Germany’s energy collapse since 1999 may have kept us around 0.749, but Argentina’s rise out of socialism may soon compensate.

[@eldermillennial8330]

@@willywonka4340 Discovering that over half of all petroleum is produced by extremophile bacteria deep in the earth also helps us more fully harness the earth’s energy. We use to think it was all decayed and sub-ducted organic sea material (only about 45% is), which is finite, but even that is far more vast than greenies give credit for. Only about half of the energy locked up in that type of oil is geothermal in origin (from the cooking process), the rest is from the sun that life absorbed through photosynthesis millions of years ago before it died, but that means our cars are 75% powered by the earth.

[@kento7899]

Wow, Kipping is far left and proud of it. Surprising he'd even talk to Peterson.

[@seangilmore6695]

The internet, online sites, and applications have created connectivity not unlike that of a conscious global neural network, allowing humankind to harness the intellect of the entire planet. It could also be argued that this is an essential piece of the Type 1 Civilization puzzle.

[@mrp8811]

the question should not be "is there life on other planets" the question should be "is there other living planets" apparently certain animals can communicate over thousands of miles using low frequency and this planet is littered with species that go on their merry way then seem to me up during the mating season which most do not think about. we call this planet a living planet but don't go deeper into the statement. Why is it a living planet? most would conclude its living because there are trillions of lifeforms coexisting. My point is is all of these creatures are living and have some form of consciousness then why can't a planet? and the relevance to this thought is if we concentrate our efforts and explore that theory and maybe just get lucky and discover the planet has a consciousness we could be able to determine if the planet is sending out to the vastness of space to other living planets.

[@michaelbuick6995]

Because the planet is made of rock...

[@mrp8811]

to say that is to say a human is made of bone. think bigger.

[@ianstuart5660]

In the Sci Fi series, Andromeda, the stars were living and had their own Avatars!

[@mrp8811]

glad i wasnt Socrates apprentice.

[@matthewstone1920]

So as an amateur Astronomer I have the equipment to backup existing exo-planet research data. The problem is I don't have the time. People would be amazed at what you can achieve with an EQ Goto mount and a decent Telescope and Astro camera. I honestly recommend getting into the hobby to supply masses of data to these kind of studies. Take it and go for it people!

[@all0utmetal735]

Always wanted to do this. Telescopes are pretty expensive though.

[@baigandinel7956]

But we may be the only beings capable of even conceptualizing of one.

[@TOMMY-WANT-WINGY]

I miss the old free JP interviews on YT

[@mtg6753]

Dude you can't get 100% efficiency from solar panels cause of the atmosphere deflecting photons. It's not possible at all ever.

[@all0utmetal735]

You didn’t listen at all did you…

[@johngeier8692]

We currently use 1/7000th of the energy incident from the sun which is 1/500,000,000th of the total solar energy output.

[@mtg6753]

@@johngeier8692 yes and the atmosphere deflects most of those photons.

[@isaiah30v8]

I believe in Extraterrestrials: . John 8:23 So he went on to say to them: “YOU are from the realms below; I am from the realms above. YOU are from this world; I am not from this world. . . There is plenty of data! . .

[@dannyaglugub1643]

Meta verse is becoming my favorite Fermi solution

[@HappyLearner-jb7jp]

The ending music is so good. Song nem?

[@TrevsOutdoorsandWellbeing]

Love you studio condo Jordon ❤😊

[@IamHattman]

Alternarively we have to remember that everything we see in space has thousands of years of delay on it, and we could be an early civilization.

[@kerravon4159]

It takes enormous gall to think you can predict - even vaguely - how alien civilizations literally millions of years ahead of us will meet their energy needs. It takes ultimate gall to decide that their energy harvesting method will specifically be in the form of solar power. That would be like cave men searching for advanced civilizations by climbing trees to look for huge smoke plumes generated by the advanced civs burning entire forests to heat their enormous caves.

[@JimmyBond-rg6gt]

It takes complete blindness to see that we are screwed. There is a "holy" war taking place in the Middle East. They are using "holy" books to justify killing thousands of innocent people. If you cannot SEE that, then YOU are BLIND. Peterson should reexamine the "holy" books. He obviously misunderstood why Jesus and his mother pop up in the Quran. I personally do not care if we ALL die today. But I have a child. So I have more skin in this stupid game than the childless. Jesus never died. Jordan is an idiot. It's called the RESURRECTION. Clock in. Jesus "appeared" to die. NO ONE DIES. GOD CREATED EVERYBODY. Peterson whines too much. He cries at the drop of a hat. Grow up. Neither presidential candidate truly believes in God. They believe in the power of the ALMIGHTY DOLLAR. Peterson needs to wake the HELL up. He thinks he "knows"? Not good enough. God exists. Love is the TRUTH. Love your enemies. Jesus Christ is the MESSIAH for the Christians, Jews, and Muslims. Come on, Jordan. Grow a pair.

[@SwizzleStickMcGee]

"We aren't even a type I civilization!" Is such a weird complaint...like, compared to what? We made the scale. It is not like we made the scale based on some alien lifeform we observed in the far distance. We are the only civilization known to exist. So, at least for now? We are the highest functioning, most civilized civilization in the known universe (scary thought, I know) "We aren't even a type I civilization!" Is like the high functioning version of: "We should be carbon neutral by now!" Like, if you can figure it out & implement a dyson sphere? Then you should do it! But you absolutely can not even come remotely close... "We aren't doing as well as the utopian society I built in my imagination." is a very common argument, that I will never agree with.

[@SavetheWestNow]

Ya, I don't think they even thought through the Dyson sphere. It's sounds more like a giant oven to me...Ouch! The way the solar system w/earth is already is much more better. Imo

[@user-px6fm5cd8w]

SpaceX is the only company that IS THE CLOSEST to be able to take up so much mass to the sun that they can build a Dyson Sphere around it

[@SavetheWestNow]

@@user-px6fm5cd8w pure delusion. Do you have any idea the sheer scale of what you're talking about or the amount of mass needed!? Impossible, not even with the mass of million earth planets. Elon is a hack anyway, he cow tows to Chyna no less.

[@t.macgyver9372]

George Bernard Shaw was spot on when he said: “The longer I live, the more convinced I am that this planet is used by other planets as a lunatic asylum.”

[@aussieknowhow9720]

Civilisation is dependent upon our actions not energy our treatment of other Energy usage is a scale of technological advancement not how civilised we are

[@maryann9538]

3 types - Amos 9:7 3 types Matthew 17

[@alexb372]

You should watch the movie Virtual Revolution 2047 if you want to see a "netiverse" potential future... It's not an entirely unlikely prediction of a movie, it could turn out to be as much of a documentary as Idiocracy.