‘We can’t allow ourselves to become numb’: George Stephanopoulos on Trump running for office again

George Stephanopoulos, Co-Anchor of "Good Morning America" and Host of ABC's "This Week" joins Nicolle Wallace on Deadline White House to discuss covering candidate Trump while he is a defendant in an ongoing criminal trial and facing 88 felony counts.
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#Trump #Election #2024

[@Michele-zn5yi]

Thank you for speaking up. More people like you need to do the same.

[@mariegeorge8865]

Thank you so much for speaking out, Mr Stephanopoulos!❤❤

[@Robsay01]

Trump tried to bully the judge through Costello that punk. Sad.

[@KaiserBlade]

What a delusional fantasy.

[@larryhuston8433]

Elvis Costello would have been a better witness, and he has absolutely nothing to do with all this Dolt45 BS.

[@kickazz999]

Cell#45 awaits🐽

[@maryd9869]

I think the bigger issue is what has happened to such a huge portion of the American public that Trump’s behavior is acceptable and even admirable. How did this happen?

[@markfeland2285]

Reality T.V

[@gregbors8364]

“Donald gives them permission to be their worst selves.” - Mary Trump

[@dohseyes5744]

That kind of abnormal unacceptable behavior and admiration was always there to begin with like a ticking time 💣. It only took the x to expose what was truly lying within. Ephesians 6:12.

[@noraalvarado8178]

For most of us we don't care what TRUMP does in his personal life. We care about NO WARS and SECURE BORDERS. Lower food and housing prices. Which we had with TRUMP.

[@rodneyoneil-kb1xk]

LIKE I,,SAID,,BRAINWASHING,,,

[@mrfuzztone]

Thanks Nicole and George for a clear discussion of the current situation. A huge number of Republicans have become despicable following their evil leader. Work hard to defeat Trump. Share information and donate to good candidates.

[@sonyawillenbrecht8920]

All lies

[@mrfuzztone]

@@sonyawillenbrecht8920 The size of the crowd at the Bronx rally was a lie. The aerial view from a helicopter shows about 2,000 people, not 25,000.

[@portiawilcox3120]

@@mrfuzztone Lol,you people lie,just to lie!!😂Biden couldn’t draw 10 people to a rally!!😂Stop being sooo pathetically jealous of Trump!!😂Enjoy November!!!😂🎉🎉🎉

[@happinessisallyouneed5203]

George is telling the truth hopefully people are watching and listening

[@sonyawillenbrecht8920]

Something wrong with you. George is one of the biggest liars of all. All democrats lie

[@Heyitsyourfriendrobert]

He worked for Hillary and Bill, dont think so

[@portiawilcox3120]

Lol,Trump has already won!! Get over it!! Enjoy November!!😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@jameshopkins6853]

Trump just makes everything just so icky.

[@op3129]

niccely put: icky

[@liberalshaveitallbackwards4667]

The wat Joe Biden always sniffs little girls hair is so cute! Right groomer? Not 'icky' at all.

[@sonyawillenbrecht8920]

You must be joking. Biden has completely disgraced America!!

[@deborah9941]

Trump… clear and present danger!

[@katherineroth2310]

know that no one can be hypnotized

[@user-rb3si2nz3z]

You are a sheep

[@KaiserBlade]

What danger?

[@AverageJoe483]

The media both left and right is more of a danger .

[@liberalshaveitallbackwards4667]

To the Mexican cartels, Iran, and the CCP. You are correct.

[@harveyhashimoto2384]

We, The People, cannot accept this behavior as normal. The only way we can speak is through the ballot box. The Supreme Court will not stop him, the DOJ is tied up and can't stop him, the Legislature can't stop him. Only we, The People can vote to keep him out of office. Trump will call for his supporters to overthrow the result by force, just showing his true intention of becoming Fuhrer Trump...

[@jcoopes5604]

Never again!

[@user-hd6fc6hb7l]

No united Reich. My Mom lived through that era. I know what it does to everyday people

[@michaelstancato6057]

They want to overwhelm you. They want you to tap out. They want you to say, “There’s nothing I can do… these people, it’s overwhelming.” Don’t feel that way! When you feel that way just take a few personal days. Take some time off for yourself. It’s understandable for you to feel overwhelmed by the constant push of fascism, and corporate media’s inability to meet the moment. But you’re your own best advocate. You’re the change that you’ve been looking for. It’s you! So if you ever feel overwhelmed by all this, it’s alright. Take some time for yourself. Focus on you’re own mental health. But also let’s spread these messages of truth so that the American people and the world can be adequately informed. Thanks for watching. - Ben Meisali, Founder of the Meidas Network, a key leader in the Independent News Movement.

[@theresaengel9444]

We all know this "they are unreachable" question is how to get them to think!!

[@mariegeorge8865]

❤❤❤❤

[@newnewhutchison991]

I love Ben and popock

[@lolstalgic9602]

Is that the guy who ONLY talks about Trump 24/7, 7/days a week nonstop? Like literally every video he has is just Trump Trump Trump.

[@michaelstancato6057]

@lolstalgic9602 EV-I-DENCE... that's what he says, and that's what you lack... and this lack is part of a mental pathology. Fascism is not a political ideology it is mental pathology in politics. The course of mental pathology is destruction and death regardless of what the afflicted person's group or nation will claim. Since the spread of the Trump contagion, the course we are on is a death spiral. -Dr Bandy Lee speaking with Ken Harbaugh on the Meidas Network

[@waterfuntimes]

"They exist on different planes." A colleague complained about Biden not doing more to stop the campus protests and I thought, how can you even compare that to a president trying to overthrow an election?

[@afry6400]

First, that would be up to the states, not the federal government. Second It nowhere near compares.

[@blessingliberty-lr3nt]

Maybe the campus administrator should have spoke up. They have a right to protest and free speech just like the Maga do, but camping I don't think so.

[@judydendy1697]

There was no real threat to Mike Pence by conseratives the FBI and Biden, they would have used it to set up Trump. George is full of hate and lies

[@rodneyoneil-kb1xk]

YOU CANT,,BUT,,THEY WILL,,DEFINITELY,,TRY,,

[@sonyawillenbrecht8920]

Don't believe anything you hear from decorats. They ALL lie!!!

[@GordonPavilion]

person, woman, man, camera, TV…prison

[@regu6582]

Nice, and apt.

[@josephjones825]

Senility, W H coke, laptop, shower, short steps, special tennis shoes, hidden earpiece, cheat sheet, teleprompter ...

[@workingmamma5342]

@@josephjones825 None of this amount to prison, chump...

[@regu6582]

@@josephjones825 Sounds like tRump, or one of his kin/cult. Good call.

[@GordonPavilion]

@@josephjones825 that is one heck of a curriculum vitae… It sure presents the author as a braindead MAGA disciple.

[@getonlygotonly]

things sure have changed. back in the day the CIA would eliminate threats to our country

[@keepingit8797]

So JFK was a threat?

[@Anden1]

And now fascism is a part of GOP and a great part of the members are accepting it a majority is embracing fascism. Vote blue 💙 up and down the ballot 💙🌊😎

[@Anden1]

@@keepingit8797 Ohh no one more! A space laser hunter. BE AWARE

[@waterfuntimes]

@@keepingit8797 So CIA killed Kennedy?

[@blessingliberty-lr3nt]

​@@keepingit8797 yes he was for the criminals in office. Like now criminals MTG, Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz, Mitch McConnell, Comer, Tubberville, and our Supreme Court Justices.

[@crazycatmama2098]

Thank you, George, for having the courage to speak out. THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID!!!! Stop both-sides-ing it. Every station should be constantly showing what is WRONG with this man.

[@RayJilwah]

both sides seeing needs to stop indeed...trump does not care a hoot about the USA ...only himself

[@samiaint8043]

Thugs in suits

[@magpietexas9475]

turdettes

[@rkbllc]

Snakes in Suits....Without Conscience.......The Sociopath Next Door.........People of the Lie......all great paperbacks on AsPD.

[@portiawilcox3120]

Perfect description of desperate Dems!!😂

[@magpietexas9475]

turdettes

[@Anden1]

Vote blue 💙 up and down the ballot 💙🌊😎

[@ItsMeMario-nm7rk]

Not a chance. The policies of the left are way too damaging. Voting for Trump.

[@Mclem2k24]

then back up again

[@Acccountable]

Yeah vote blue some misery comes to you.

[@butterfly21375]

GO Vote BLUE save democracy. STOP the Big Lies.

[@reason6835]

I don’t vote by color.

[@josephjones825]

Save demonocracy 👺 NOPE

[@kenc7120]

Vote blue💙💙💙💙💙for blue💙💙💙💙💙voting dudes in girls bathrooms.

[@keepingit8797]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JimHolder-pk2kk]

I have voted based on the person for many decades. But the past several elections it has been always for Democrats with maybe one or two exceptions in local races.

[@jeanettecarter5438]

💙💙💙💙💙💙🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 God bless Joe Biden

[@sonyawillenbrecht8920]

You must not like your country at all

[@portiawilcox3120]

@@sonyawillenbrecht8920 They hate America and children!!!!💯Pathetic!!!

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Keep reminding the MAGA/GOP what respectable people have said about TFG. He should never have been near the office of the presidency to begin with. He most certainly should not be near it again. 🗽 Vote BLUE. 🗳

[@robinlware]

Sorry sweetie 😘 make America Great Again

[@scott77d]

Not sure you have to vote blue but vote anybody but DJT and his MAGA bootlickers.

[@afry6400]

@@robinlware Prison for Trump and his cronies would do that. Thanks.

[@seabreezecoffeeroasters7994]

@@robinlware 'America Beings GReat' depends on ALL of the population working toward shared ideals not Idol worship of your fake Orange God!

[@portiawilcox3120]

Lol,he’ll ensure you people never get anywhere near the WH again!?💯Enjoy November!!😂

[@ccwoodlands1565]

You tell ‘em, George! Vote BLUE!

[@YevinM-rn7mp]

Vote blue if ya wanna lose 😂

[@jonathanboam5409]

That's Trump's game. Drag everyone else into the muck with him. "Hey, Biden/Hilary/ anyone else is just as bad as me! So why not vote for the guy that's most entertaining!" He's convincing us all of this is normal. It's not.

[@JJ-kl5yj]

What displays as "entertainment" is not normal either. A bad comedian can say stupid and outrageous things with no social consequence, but a former president or presidential candidate is something else. Everything about Trump is abnormal.

[@fintheguy]

Trump doesnt love nonstop war but they do. Remember that - dingus? They are worse than him as they LOVE war and would want my military member brother to die for their bottom dollar. Wake up, honey.

[@catherine7484]

I'd never say ''entertaining''. more like disgusting, also childish and ignorant.

[@keepingit8797]

While Sloppy joe has drug the U.S. down every step of the way.

[@jonathanboam5409]

@@keepingit8797 See, right there. That's the problem. You can't stay on topic. You can't bring yourself to consider the caliber of Trump the man without "b.. b.... but... What about Biden?"

[@chrisjames3087]

Lock him up. This has gone on far too long.

[@Sturmavk]

That’s what Putin does to his political opponents. You’re in great company, Vlad.

[@chrisjames3087]

@@Sturmavk The rule of law must prevail if this country is to endure.

[@rude1527]

It's ok Dem. We know MSNBC fed that dust ball of a brain of yours lies.

[@keepingit8797]

Easy with that TDS!

[@brendansparks1511]

@@Sturmavk Strange comment coming from a tRumPutin troll.

[@ianmclaren9721]

The rest of his life in court.

[@RayBolden-hv7iz]

Vote blue for democracy freedom ladies rights over your own body 💙💙🇱🇷💙💙💙🇱🇷🇱🇷💙💙🇱🇷

[@fais1979]

Who paid for their suites, do they really went out and buy suits just for the purpose of going to criminal trump trial

[@leslieortenzi8875]

They "fell off a truck," like Trump's and got them dirt cheap!

[@jackoalltrades5708]

assume the RNC arranged and financed the whole thing

[@axeguy85]

At the Hampton Inn?

[@mushtato1]

@jackoalltrades5708 I think you are 100% right on here. Now that trump runs the RNC they will have their people get their money in some way and this seems to be the first real move in the many to be rolled out. Since trump skims off the top of what they now raise personally they have to show their full maga step in the regime. The scary times have started to take a twisted turn, I hope people are paying attention now.

[@RebeccaMooreFrey]

WHAT ARE THEY AFRAid OF? THE TRUTH?

[@rr7firefly]

Trump and Truth begin with the same 3 letters BUT those two things are diametrically opposed. Trump will say anything, do anything, deny everything in order to hoard as much power as he can.

[@afry6400]

Yea, several of them in congress would also be implicated if the whole truth comes out and they know it.

[@sonyawillenbrecht8920]

You guys are afraid of the truth. That's why you watch this news program. So dumb!!!

[@TheRealRoronoaZoro]

It’s fun to see ABC personality on MSNBC, i like and respect both Nicole and George.

[@RebeccaMooreFrey]

AMEN!!

[@elaineisabelle427]

Thank you George, keep up the good fight.

[@willl9319]

Oh they are dressing like trump. I thought that was coincidence the first time. How pathetic!! 🤡

[@mushtato1]

I really wish any republican didn't just vote because the candidate is a republican. I have never been that way as a voter. I had always been independent until I started paying super close to things and now I know at this time I need to be all one way until we can get the current republican party out. I will still choose the best candidate but also donate to the most important races all over the country. I see far to many republicans blindly following and it shows in how we as a country haven't progressed like others democratic nations. As the world's richest we should be farther ahead in all aspects of our life, health, and well being of the people. Republican policy has kept us in the dark ages.

[@Anden1]

Thank you!

[@Castaway_Chuck]

I wouldn't be surprised if Alito, Kavanaugh, Roberts and Thomas show up in blue suits and red ties in public.

[@Michelle-yk5mq]

Thank you Mr. GEORGE S. I do not hear OTHER Main Stream News Anchors taking the time like you have to bring to light how SERIOUS these issues are. Well done Sir, well DONE.

[@JamesBond7E]

Judiciary system is to be blamed for this mess, its more political than politics

[@afry6400]

I'd say congress is. They had a chance to deal with him twice and refused. Thank the red hats in congress.

[@steverimnac526]

Trump/MAGA committed all of the political crimes in the last 8 years. Our competent judicial system is working through this.

[@lynnabel258]

The 'Red Tie Brigade' look like a bunch of mobster 'wise guys'

[@mariegeorge8865]

That's what I've been thinking lately - they all act like wannabe Mafia.

[@lorettafoster783]

This is the scariest election I have lived through. I am 72. Listen to George and others who is much more knowledgeable than I.

[@timothyhilton3408]

The furrowed brows of the the red tie brigade shows the inner conflict and lack of Peace in these men.

[@user-ig2lv2jm2q]

Ya'll are looney! Sad.

[@niclewis9610]

No king. No dictator. No tyrant. No Trump. Vote Blue.

[@life4living216]

thank you for speaking up. all of this is not normal

[@carlyar5281]

Every accusation that Trump makes is a confession.

[@MortalWeather]

A couple of real pros in conversation here. Many thanks to you both.

[@user-fm8rc4zh4h]

pro-pagandists

[@kiteblaster]

Hells Angels supporting the Supreme Leader of the republican party - the party of "law and order(?)"

[@OneNostrilledMan]

YEAH!

[@user-in8ky1nj4o]

In your world you have grown extremely comfortably numb to the truth

[@daydreamer0923]

You are so right. "They just fall in line". And this is acceptable? Not so for me. Are people in comma's?

[@robertafoginthemorning6678]

Will the real dt stand up😅😂😅😂

[@glennmorris8787]

The most incredible thing is the number of people connected who have gone to prison. It's "stunning"..

[@IvanBrackin]

As an 83 year-old Brit, I can't understand why America doesn't have more people like George Stephanopolus running for President or even in positions of power.

[@sonyawillenbrecht8920]

You must hate America

[@RebeccaMooreFrey]

AMEN

[@IreneCaputo-jj1kh]

I agree with you!

[@user-tr9qr1jm3c]

How fascism starts, first, they fascinate the fools, then, they muzzle the intelligent! VOTE 💙

[@Sarth824]

I’ve always like George and I’m glad he’s been speaking out more directly.

[@sonyawillenbrecht8920]

George does nothing but lie.

[@pjdava]

MSNBC, I can't get enough of your content, so I subscribed!

[@708robertd]

Nobody cares

[@mikeemery6741]

I loved this interview! I need to find the end of it... sux when it is cut short.

[@mauricioangulos.2830]

There are two types of people that wear coordinated outfits: boy bands and cult members. And these guys with the red ties don't look like they can sing.

[@Smackwater587]

Karma! 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@elfari100]

Thinking of who may have seen the Mar-a-Lago documents, makes me loose sleep...

[@Noreenlee1]

I just bought your book, George. I so appreciate your reasonable discourse!

[@sonyawillenbrecht8920]

George does nothing but lie!!

[@badlourising]

Time will tell. Jury will decide. Freedom or incarceration are verdicts

[@shanecadden5303]

Any news or media person or platform that can’t denounce an insurrectionist who defied the peaceful transfer of power is complicit. Period.

[@Here4Democracy]

This clip needs to be played over and over and over.

[@ThomasBeltz66]

Or when both sides allowed the voters to choose their candidates,…oh those were the days!🙄

[@rockitup2041]

Chuck Zito used to be my hero. I’m disappointed in him.

[@beckettman42]

Embrace the inevitability.

[@kevinjones5457]

LAWFARE!!

[@s.z.6200]

“Leaker-in-chief” LOL

[@axeguy85]

The GOP had options. Several on the primary debate stage but, once again, MAGA and the GOP have shown us their low quality and lack of honor and patriotism for America.

[@naja13]

When it comes to DJT 💩🤡 I feel like I am in “ the twilight zone “

[@leilastomboly1423]

WE are not numb, we are powerless

[@epochchange6803]

Speak for yourself

[@DuongTran-mh7ci]

George is a great journalist, truthful, clear headed, brave, wise!

[@sonyawillenbrecht8920]

Got to laugh at that. George does nothing but lie. Do you not want to get the true facts. This is the problem

[@derekaguon3176]

💙 "because that's what he would do." That's what they would do. They think it's normal

[@dominique217]

Nailed it in the last few seconds, George. He believes everyone acts as he does. He thinks his behavior, personality, decision-making, etc, are typical.

[@Here4Democracy]

6:15 mark. And George’s response!!!! Bravo George!!!!❤

[@sonyawillenbrecht8920]

George is disgusting. All he does is lie!!

[@user-lh5hm7kb3y]

😂🤣 The mini-T's look like IT 🤡. Come on. Where is the self respect

[@suroowickramaratna3350]

Judging others by your own standards

[@rosemariebredahl9519]

We don't have to go all the way back to Muskie, just look at how little it too for Al Franken to loose his Senate seat.

[@andrew_owens7680]

"Scale of abnormality..." Oh, I thought he was talking about starving 2.3 million people to death. That one we are allowed to become numb about.

[@user-fm8rc4zh4h]

i wonder if tomorrow will be a pool day

[@user-mc6tr1vp2v]

Numbness is the organic, natural result of trauma. It's not something you have control over.

[@deirdraplummer2009]

Why is Vernon Jordan there?? He still bootlicking??????

[@sergbustam]

Why so many incomplete interviews on You Tube ?

[@captainez]

Sir, when you take into account larger problems he has, I am very certain my wife would never have him to dinner.

[@sherryobar5750]

Vote Biden 2024 💙 🇺🇸 💙 Free America from the Cult of MAGA!

[@frankieclayton9303]

He is the one doing all these things

[@ImperialRis]

WOW

[@JOHN_F_KENNEDY_DADDY]

The devils advocate in suits

[@christyritter1828]

The red tie clowns on parade.

[@stevenhedden2175]

Please play that every day. It needs to be heard every day.

[@mssage974]

It seems to me that if a person must be at least 35 years old and born in the united states to be eligible to become president while an immigrant who becomes a citizen can't become president, then a person with an immigrant spouse should not be eligible to become president.

[@NDARYBC]

When trump ran in 2015,i was like,this dude is a Cocky dude...i don't know man, North East representing , here.

[@reypahuyo6892]

.. don the con's sycophants ,,, ha ha ha

[@PointofConnection]

The energy of George Stephanopoulous is about abuse, fear, horror, wise lies, absolutism my rule, rule, owner, not feeling shoulders or back, energy outside of grounding, governance, conviction.

[@hilltopintegratedfarm1693]

If so why cant this newsreader run for Pres?

[@williamknell864]

Bernard Kerik????

[@godfreycarmichael]

John Dean. YeeeeHahhhhh! Career over.

[@motovlogger926]

Why is "James Foley" still alive speaking on trump and politics?

[@floydhutcherson1732]

What are we going to do nooooow? 😩😩😩😩

[@wooster1173]

Vote…

[@Heyitsyourfriendrobert]

In 6 months Trump will ascend to The Presidency 47 , 5/26/2024

[@katherineroth2310]

I hope all Americans can get themselves to listen to the opposite side.

[@beccimathews2677]

VOTE BLUE UP AND DOWN THE BALLOT! MAKE ACCOUNTABILITY GREAT AGAIN!🗳️💯💙🇺🇸💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙