We Can't Deal With Any More *CHERNOBYL* | Episode 4 Reaction

[@SpartanandPudgey]

Not the bloody dogs as well...what heart string is this series not gonna tear apart?! All 5 Episode Reactions are available 4 weeks EARLY and UNCUT over on Patreon! www.patreon.com/spartanandpudgey

[@TheBrother847]

I can tell by how you guys react that you guys both haven't learned a single thing, Stop commenting on the things you know nothing about!!

[@martinjacobsen2992]

Hey on a side note, you mention things might be dramatized. I can tell you with complete certainty that they have not.. If anything they have been toned down due to the absolute horrible nature of radiation sickness...Long story short, it dissolves you into a puddle..It is the single most painful and destructive way to die. So in short....No...No it has not been dramatized. Sadly. One thing that they could have showed aswell is how they used Mobile Howitzers big heavy millitary vehicles to try and collapse over hanging roof pieces by shooting them, it was not just a suggestion, it was tried out. As for the soldier pouring out the milk, it was not a waste. Milk contains radioactivity very well. It is a really easy way to get sick in a situation like this as cows eat the radiation filled grass..

[@JoshTheMadLad]

​@@TheBrother847they probably had a week downtime between the prior episode and this one. They most likely forgot the whole kill all the contaminated animals thing until it came up in the show. Relax.

[@michaeltaberner4079]

Your reaction is great. If you two knew any of the historical facts. It would NOT be interesting to watch your reaction. If anything you have the same reaction to this scenario as the real people who would be caught up in this event. Thank you And P.S. someones negative opinion is just a reflection of their own character.

[@dlitylurlytutoyiytoixzaixzazax]

Didn't you react to The Witcher Season 3 because you didn't like the season yourself or because many people overheated Season 3 to make it bad?

[@igor2999916]

My grandfather is a Chernobyl liquidator. He did not kill the animals, but helped with clearing the area of ​​radioactive particles. He was drafted to serve because he had previously served in the army and had two children. Initially, those with children were called up because there was a high risk of infertility among them. During my childhood, my grandfather and I would go annually to commemorate the Chernobyl disaster. He has received many medals and orders, the latest one being awarded on the 35th anniversary. Today he is 81 years old. He survived radiation, Covid and a stroke. I'm so proud of him and love him, he's my real hero.

[@Knightowl1980]

That’s incredible

[@Timbo6669]

@@Knightowl1980it is but now you know the reality of this disaster. In reality, Most survived the radiation.

[@Ulrich.Bierwisch]

@@Timbo6669 That's what the survivors say. The others don't tell their story and are not officially counted.

[@Aman-mcz]

​@@Timbo6669 most of the numbers we know today we're madeup fir the coverup, numbers were way higher and they are not here to tell their story like the living ones are.

[@datdudeinred]

Is that the reason to wear those lead shielding on their crotch?

[@Destroyer94100]

Radioactive milk being spilled is not a waste guys 🤣

[@billigmad3720]

It is... Radioactive waste ;-)

[@ladyhotep5189]

​@@billigmad3720I feel bad for the little lol from me.

[@Garryck-1]

Nor is shooting a radioactive cow...

[@blinkachu5275]

"He shot the cow, bit of a dick move" Not really The cow had to die, just like all the other animals this episode, it had received too much radiation and would only spread it around if it was kept alive It's sad that the animals were harmed, but it's what needed to happen to contain it

[@kapsi]

What they should have done is release the cows, so we can have real life brahmin.

[@Durran196]

​@@kapsi that's the point, they cannot allow livestock or any animals to go free they'll further the contamination

[@sheert]

Those animals would not have been healthy, in fact they would be dying since their only food source would be contaminated. Humans would have their food shipped in (and it's not safe for them either).

[@Cassxowary]

so why didnt they end EVERYONE?

[@nathanmitchell7961]

@@Cassxowary Because Humans are generally not seen as animals, unless you disagree?

[@gregpeacock5497]

Fun fact: I have read that in the clearing of the roof, some older men would go again in place of younger men so they would not have to face the radiation since they still had their whole lives still ahead.

[@technofilejr3401]

Some senior citizens in Japan did something similar. They volunteered to sit in at the Fukushima power plant in place of a younger person.

[@VoloMalVor]

Jesus...

[@Quzga]

​@@technofilejr3401i hope to get a show about Fukushima of this caliber!

[@RoboSteave]

I can vouch for this. I worked for years in nuke plants here in the U.S. as part of my career (millwright). I worked on the turbines, generators, and such and I noticed that the crew who worked on the reactors were all older men. I asked and was told they do it that way so that, if they get dosed with radiation, they wouldn't lose as many years of their lives as younger men. True story.

[@MFBloosh]

@@Quzga Fukushima was handled well afterwards, though. Meanwhile the USSR was trying their very best to end the world lol. At least the suits were, and the KGB. That's the whole message of the show. Lies and secrets. Japan was very open about what happened and didn't try to hide anything.

[@Joshua-i2o8s]

Reactors are always surprised that Dyatlov didn’t die when everyone else did; but he never moved closer to the core, left the plant basically straight away and never returned, and then got taken to Moscow for treatment instead of the close hospital.

[@bobdonda]

I just assumed anyone working right there when it happened has a pretty high chance of not surviving, regardless of how quickly they left the area

[@Markus117d]

But in a way he very likely did die due to the accident, It just took longer to catch up with him..

[@TheMightyOdin]

@@bobdondaThe control room and the boardroom they had discussions in was well protected.

[@Prism988]

​@@bobdonda You'd be even more suprised knowing that people kept working at the other 3 reactors for many years after.

[@TheTrequarista]

BS. This show is not a documentary, it is based on the infamous Medvedev's book full of BS. In reality Dyatlov made TWO tours outside the building, went to the turbine hall where the real fights against fires were, and he even helped Yuvchenko try to find Kodemtchouk. He received a dose potentialy lethal, ouround the "LD 50", his full body dose was 6.5Gy upper bound, essentially from contaminated water during his Kodemtchouk search. What can have helped him was the fact that he took a shower and changed cloths contrary to others. And he was a very fit man. All of this is well documented.

[@adityagojamgunde7152]

The 3 men who drained the tanks, all the people who went to the roof, people killing animals... all of them... nameless heroes. These brave souls came over their emotions and did the job they had to do. Without them we would have a very different world today.

[@LaMancha958]

Exactly, they are my heroes forever!

[@doubleubee7523]

The three men who drained the tanks are named: Valeri Bezpalov: A plant engineer who is still alive and living in Kiev Alexie Ananenko: A plant engineer who is still alive and living in Kiev Boris Baranov: A plant worker who died of a heart attack in 2005 Heros yes, but we know who they are.

[@jerthon1]

@@doubleubee7523 I was just going to say this, yes they are Hero's but we very much know their names

[@KOLLAJ]

They are not nameless, everyone who participated in liquidation of Chernobyl disaster is registered and is given special privileges to this day (depending on the severity of the task) My friends father is a nuclear engineer who helped in assertation of the evacuation area. He roamed those fields with a dosimeter in hand. Got a nice place in nuclear industry after that, but health problems got to him in the end.

[@Commanderstevo]

I also think only the grimness of the soviet union could have had people do what they do to clean it up, at the same time that explosion only could have happened due to the soviet union as well. At least the problem also created the solution.

[@kallemattiwaris2422]

The effects of radiation sicness were in fact toned down, since showing the full horror would have been too disgusting. That's why they also didn't show the effects on affected animals.

[@stefannico]

there are interviews with radiation experts saying the show actually drastically over did the symptoms of the radiation sickness. Also a baby can not "absorb" radiation is nothing than is passed through blood or like a virus. Some of the claims of this show have been debunked already. Not to take away from the horrors of this super gau but there were definitely some liberties taken.

[@HeadR47]

If you saw what the men looked like in the hospital, that is what these affected animals looked like.

[@stefannico]

@@kallemattiwaris2422 there is no documented evidence supporting this statement. Radiation experts have spoken on the matter and deemed the depiction to be exaggerated.

[@AfterlifeAnubis]

they really went from "Tell me how a nuclear reactor works or ill have you thrown out of this helicopter" to being besties :)

[@jonathangill6584]

That 90 seconds on the roof scene was 90 seconds in real time I believe.

[@northwest1972]

Именно. И это отличный кинематографический приём, чтобы прочувствовать весь ужас и течение времени.

[@sylvan744]

“That’s a waste” are you going to drink the irradiated cow milk?

[@Quzga]

I really don't mean any offense to them but is the average person really this uninformed about radiation? Really explains the anti nuclear movements around the world 😅 I had to study energy in school here in Sweden and thought it was common knowledge how it works but maybe not.

[@MadaxDeLuXe]

​​@@QuzgaI like really em both, too. Preferably together. So no offense.. :) But that also astonished me. With the "What a waste!" I couldn't resist any longer and make my way to the comment section... 😂 Keep up the great and entertaining work, both of you. Thank you!

[@davidpoole5595]

Populations are woefully ignorant on nuclear power

[@Quzga]

@@MadaxDeLuXe Yeah everyone can't know everything and I wouldn't wanna mock someone for learning, just surprised me is all! I think this is why shows like this are important so people can learn and widen their views, I just hope they don't have the wrong takeaway and think nuclear plants are bad.

[@johnnyd1790]

🤣🤣 Nobody has glowing guts these days.😁

[@TheTurinturumbar]

No, it's not a rationalisation. It's the truth. We live in absolute luxury which lets us forget that we are way more than the nice polished personas everybody displays. We're not good or evil, we're the potential for both.

[@wildpendulum]

Exactly.

[@ladyhotep5189]

💯💯💯💯💯

[@davidci]

31:48 The words "You're done" has never sounded more terrifying

[@anonymouszebra1239]

The speech about how the guy first killed someone always stuck with me It’s not strictly about the horror of killing someone But realising you had that potential, that you ‘were a killer all along’. That you weren’t like you thought, you just didn’t know. Dark stuff.

[@Commanderstevo]

“And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”

[@DerOberfeldwebel]

Exactly, its like theres a part of you that you never knew was there because it never got in a position to get out. Until then. Its almost existentialist - How well do people living in modern society know themselves and what they're capable of ? Until we get to the point that door opens ? We think we do, but we dont.

[@Mangolite]

After the Chernobyl nuclear disaster in 1986, many pets, including dogs, were left behind when residents of Pripyat and surrounding areas were evacuated. Initially, Soviet soldiers were ordered to shoot animals left behind to prevent the spread of radiation. However, some animals survived and began to reproduce. In the years following the disaster, the dogs that survived the initial culling formed feral packs and roamed the exclusion zone. They faced numerous challenges, including radiation exposure, lack of food, harsh weather conditions, and diseases. Despite these challenges, some of the dogs managed to adapt to the environment. Today, the descendants of these dogs still live in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone. Various organizations and volunteers have made efforts to care for these dogs, providing them with food, medical care, and even spaying and neutering to control the population. Some of these dogs have been adopted by people outside the exclusion zone after being decontaminated and given a clean bill of health.

[@bvbxiong5791]

if someone told me they saw a flying dog or a two headed dog or a dog that ran faster than lightning in the exclusion zone...i'd believe them.

[@t0dd000]

You asked why they have to show the story of the animals. Because this is not just a human tragedy. Those animals needed their stories told as well.

[@Big_Bag_of_Pus]

@@t0dd000 That's actually not it. The animal killing subplot is not about the animals. It's about Pavel. It's telling the story of how this innocent kid suffered through such a horrible task. Mazin talks about this in the official podcast. He was trying to show that you didn't have to be one of the plant workers or firemen to still be a victim. The hundreds of thousands of liquidators were victims too.

[@shag139]

Things to understand about radiation: Radioactivity does NOT turn other things radioactive. The firefighters suits were not made radioactive. The suits were covered in radioactive debris/particles. This is why they wash down the outside of clothing and then remove the clothing. It’s why they washed down the vehicle the General drove through getting the reading. The problem is the particles fall on the ground and then get spread by rain, absorbed by plants, eaten by animals. Ingestion and inhalation is how animals and people get radioactivity in their bodies. For a material to actually become radioactive you need neutron activation which only occurs inside a nuclear reactor and in cyclotrons in labs. The graphite on the roof doesn’t make the roof radioactive.

[@caribbeanman3379]

What you say is mostly true. Depending on composition, some items can become radioactive if exposed to high levels of radiation. If this wasn't true, a nuclear chain reaction wouldn't be possible. But it only applies to certain specific elements, so you're mostly true.

[@harshalgawai746]

People will start hating on graphite after this show😅. It's uranium 235 they should be afraid of

[@bitterzombie]

The story arc showing the boy who gets drafted into cleanup shows how it was akin to being in a war zone. Kid had never fired a gun in his life, never killed anything, wasnt even old enough to drink. But in a short period of time exposed to that stress & trauma, he has already developed PTSD & alcohol dependancy, becoming desensitized to the horror & violence. & it wasnt even intentional warfare. Just a big accident that poor kids like that got tasked with cleaning up, & they will carry that with them for the rest of their (reduced) lifespans.

[@ladyasriel7874]

My dad’s job in the 80s took him to various power plants throughout the UK. It was not long after the explosion at Chernobyl had happened, but before it became huge news, that he was told by some colleagues at a nuclear power plant that they knew without a doubt it was a catastrophe, as they were able to detect the fallout even from the UK. They couldn’t go into detail but did tell my dad ‘get iodine tablets!’. He came home that day with boxes of them that we had to take for what felt like years but probably wasn’t that long as I was just little. I also remember we were on powdered milk for ages too, also at the advice of my dad’s colleagues. We didn’t really know what it was about at the time but looking back, it’s hard to believe the gravity of what happened.

[@davidpoole5595]

My dad was in army intelligence on east coast of united states He kept us inside almost 10 days

[@Markus117d]

In the UK there were checks and restrictions placed on animal products and sales for years, The last restrictions on the movement and sale of sheep in the UK were lifted in 2012, 26 years after the accident..

[@ladyhotep5189]

​@@Markus117doh wow. That's a bit of a reality check. Geez-us

[@milkjr8883]

They still monitor reindeer here in northern norway for radiation, there are remaining cesium particulates spread across the highlands and the plants they eat absorb it. Levels have stayed relatively low since the mid 90's but every now and then some of them get high enough exposure that they can't be used for food so the monitoring continues.

[@Will_E_Wonty]

"They did all that for no benefit" Isn't saving millions of lives benefit enough? Not everyone is motivated only by personal monetary gain.

[@MikkoRantalainen]

Total of 3828 biorobots were needed to shovel the radioactive debris off of Chernobyl's roof because each man could only work for 90 seconds. Each man could complete about 0.026% of the full job so it seemed like close to no benefit.

[@metsapuro]

@@MikkoRantalainen they saved millions if u think that is close to no benefit i dunno what to tell u lil bro

[@MikkoRantalainen]

@@metsapuro I think you misundertood my point. One biorobot might have felt doing close to nothing for the whole mess but in total, those 3828 biorobots did fix the immediate problem.

[@mrb2349]

@@MikkoRantalainen a lot of these people have comprehension problems so severe, it makes one wonder if they were dropped into a reactor core as toddlers.

[@cgbleak]

Well, at least in Episode 5, there's a happy ending. In the sense that all of Europe wasn't irradiated.

[@Markus117d]

Actually it was, Just thankfully to a much lesser extent than it could have been, In the UK there were checks restrictions placed on farmer's livestock, The last restrictions on the movement and sale of sheep in the UK were lifted in 2012, 26 years after the accident..

[@zomkino]

37:04 They didnt went in like "yay i'm going to have all theses benefits", they went in like " Commissar: *Go in, or never go anywhere ever again* ." or simple patriotisme, being told you are helping save millions, some people are like that, like the 3 first divers

[@o.b.7217]

(5:20) The milk is radiactive too, Pudgey. Back then, a lot of milk and agricultural produce had to be destroyed. Same went for wildlife that people hunted _(deer, boars, etc)_ and mushrooms and berries that people gathered. And not just restricted to Ukraine. It was that way, basically everywhere in Europe.

[@safespacebear]

In a series stuffed full of amazing scenes and epic performances the lunch break scene in this episode is my personal favorite. "That was you all along".... major chills

[@Unashamed_Christian]

That’s not a waste pudgey.. if she drank that it would be like drinking straight radiation.. this is one of the roughest episodes in all cinematic history.. Also I don’t think you guys truly grasp the level of danger the people of the Soviet Union were in when it comes to the government. Imagine everything you do every part of the day you have a loaded and cocked gun against your head. That was essentially their every day life…

[@TheBrother847]

They just don't know how not to comment on stuff "they have no idea about", Said the same thing last video just watch stop commenting on politics and military when they do not know anything about it, and LEARN!!!!!

[@zardify_]

It wasn't THAT bad. Not in every day life. My grandparents and parents had plenty of stories. My great grandfather was taken to a labour camp in Siberia where he lost fingers so it had very dark sides, yes. But not in every day life. Not for the average people as long as you didn't talk about politics or science. If you did... yeah...

[@jasminejo2424]

@@TheBrother847 I mean there are videos out there of reactors who are experts in the nuclear field you can watch if you want to hear that, this is two people who didnt even know what chernobyl was before watching this series coming to the conclusions they can from what they have watched, i too was sitting there thinking leaving that old lady alone there means condemning her and her cow to a brutal slow death from radiation so the soldier is doing the right thing but its not my oppinion we are here to watch and by putting their oppinions on the internet they open themselves to correction and alternate oppinions in these comments wich IS how they learn.

[@arismaiden6457]

"every part of the day you have a loaded gun against your head"... what a load of rubbish! don't try to use this series to draw arbitrary assumptions and generalizations. The show focuses on the worst period of human history in terms of danger, life and death situations and decisions and an unprecedented state of emergency. As Legasov says to Sherbina "we are dealing with something that has never occured on this planet before". Of course the state was authoritarian and utterly bureaucratic, but generally life in the USSR wasn't AT ALL as depicted in this series. I know people that lived in places like Sochi or Rostov during the 70s and 80s. The truth is that many things were better back then, especially for the common people. If you look up surveys about the subject conducted in recent years, you will find out that the majority of Russians say life was better back then, comparing to today. The same is true about many other ex soviet countries like Belarus, Armenia, Georgia and the central Asian countries.

[@Markus117d]

​@arismaiden6457 Maybe so, But i bet in almost every study done across the world, People will say things used to be better, It's a characteristic of human memory..

[@saviourself687]

The "baby absorbed the radiation that would have killed the mother" is pure fiction. The baby did die after delivery of malformation of the heart and a cirrhotic liver, but the damage was done by the initial exposure. It's not well explained, but her husband was dangerous not because he was exposed to radiation, but because he had ingested radioactive material (breathing etc) in to his body. The particles would be in the lungs, stomach, bloodstream etc. Lyudmilla was expose to radiation but was far less likely to ingest the particles generating the radiation. To quote her: "They were asking me why I had been at my husband's bedside knowing that I was pregnant at the time," Lyudmilla told the BBC of the questions she got from reporters after the show aired. "But tell me, how could I leave him? I thought my baby was safe inside me. We didn't know anything about radiation then."

[@konstantinosbiratsis2601]

I think that Soviet communism was a horrible enough political ideology to cause an accident that can end the human kind and reverse human nature to the extend that the offspring dies so that the mother doesn't. Many commie-sperms flooded Chernobyl vids on KZbin because this series opened the eyes to all the NPC's about how horrible the evolution of communism is and they are here to do damage control. They went so far as to create a series in Russia to depict "the real story behind Chernobyl" putting the blame on the Americans who planted a bomb on the reactor.

[@Spongebrain97]

​@konstantinosbiratsis2601 your comment is beyond braindead 😂

[@shag139]

Thank You! Finally someone pointed this out.

[@lenakohl2339]

Most likely, she was exposed to radiation somewhere else. I mean, she was near the nuclear plant as it exploded.

[@myphone4590]

Spare me from armchair biologists. Mothers often lose bone density and suffer from malnutrition without supplements, a significant portion of nutrients in the bloodstream get absorbed by the placenta and fetus, which the mother replaces by drawing down stores (sometimes with intermediate synthesis but stores nonetheless). The mother wasn't forming new bone (if anything losing it) or significantly gaining weight. The placenta and fetus were. The mother also wasn't forming a lot of new cells: it takes 40 cell divisions to get from egg to fetus (roughly 2^41 cells) and the hayflick limit is 70 cell divisions before senescence. So cells undergo 40 divisions in 9 months and then divide another 30 over the next HUNDRED YEARS (modulo stem cells). That's a notable concentration of activity just from the numbers. Elements released from the mother's existing biological stores (fat, bone mass, etc) would generally be radioactively stable. The new stuff eaten, drunk, and breathed into the bloodstream included a lot of unstable isotopes. Transient exposure is bad, but incorporating unstable isotopes permanently into cell structures (or extracellular structures such as the bone matrix secreted by osteoblasts) guarantees absorbing the rest of that element's decay chain, point blank, into pretty much the same cell over and over. A baby isn't a get out of jail free card but it's basically half-assed chelation, and could easily have a quite significant effect. Of course there haven't been a lot of controlled studies on radio tagging the isotopes absorbed during human fetal development, with statistically significant sample size and a control group replicated it multiple research institutions. Which is obviously 100% ironclad proof of the null hypothesis, as you felt motivated by your credentials and experience to state.

[@VieVentar]

I was born 6 months after Chernobyl occured, I got lucky - my tongue is rooted to the bottom of my mouth. Doctors thought I'd have issues talking, offered to operate to cut the tongue free but my parents elected to wait and see rather than risk surgery soon after birth. I adapted, I slur my S's when I'm tired. I was lucky. We didn't discuss it much at school, but we noticed a lot of us had little things. So we talked, most of us had something minor that was corrected, one had been born with his intestines outside of his body cavity and needed emergency surgery. We only had the survivors to ask, we didn't get to ask the ones that didn't survive. Not many parents talked about it, even mine only discussed a few of the babies on the ward. I was born in the UK. We were lucky, it wasn't anywhere near as bad as it was for people closer. Not sure if there are many survivors of them now, but we used to have a charity here where Ukrainian kids who had been affected by the radiation would be invited to the UK for holidays. Their numbers dwindled year on year, I imagine the survivors are now caught up in Russia's invasion. Speaking of, Russia attacked the Chernobyl area in their current war. They didn't warn their soldiers. They dug trenches into the soil that had been buried. If any of them survive the war their kids will be a new generation of Chernobyl babies.

[@winter4097]

Thank you for sharing 🫶🏼

[@ladyhotep5189]

Respect 💯

[@MikkoRantalainen]

Thanks for sharing. Officially the accident only killed 30-60 people but the overall non-lethal damage was obviously much worse.

[@paulinachlastakova1620]

My brother was born one year and one day after the tragedy - in Slovakia 900 km far away from Chernobyl. He was born with one smaller kidney and had to undergo a surgery to make it function when he was only few days old. There were many kids in his class that had minor defects. None were acknowledged as an effects of the prenatal exposure to radiation. But we all knew it.

[@ManomiiFox]

24:29: spartan said biologist. no, it's not biologist, it's BIOrobot. Bio is a prefix for meaning "life".

[@Yevgeniy-UA]

The soldiers that clearing the graphite on a roof, been told. They either spend two minutes on the roof or they will go for 2 years war in Afghanistan. They chose the roof!

[@inferior_Cawl_Inferior]

@20:14 The banner says: "our goal - happiness for everyone" (nasha tsel' - schactye vsyem). I'm a bit rusty, but it's close enough as to make no difference. Basically what the soldier said just before.

[@ZondaFRoadster]

The "90 seconds on the roof" scene is one of the most tense and distressing scenes in TV history to me. The fact it was done in real time with no cuts makes it feel so much more immersive.

[@doubleubee7523]

I live in the USA and remember this happening. We had respect for the men and women who worked to contain the problem. The helicopter crews that flew over the reactor knowing full well it was going to kill them is amazing.

[@lethaldose2000]

So many awesome yet vicious lines in this series. GReat writing. "Ask the bosses what you want, and you'll get the lie. And I'll get the bullet."

[@sam_c95]

Have you guys noticed all the Game of Thrones actors in this show? One of the miners is Lord Commander Mormont, the guy who shot the cow is Pyp, both of the Night's Watch, the general in charge of the clean up operation is Dagmer Cleftjaw who was Theon's Iron Island right hand man. In the first episode the guy who ordered the phonelines cut was Maester Luwin. There's another one next episode you should recognise too.

[@ShyGoldie]

'delusion' isn't the correct word to describe Bacho's state of mind, he's more so numb or stoic to everything because he's been put in those tough situations so often. Much like The Myth of Sisyphus by Albert Camus

[@melissavukelic4138]

I don't know if you guys have picked up on this, but there are several GoT actors in this series. 1. *Maester Luwin* of Winterfell - He was the old guy in episode 2 who ordered that nobody be allowed to leave the city and, later, is seen boarding one of the busses to be evacuated. 2. *Jeor Mormont,* Lord Commander of the Night's Watch - When the miners were all patting the Minister of Coal's jacket, leaving it full of coal dust, he was the who, instead, patted his face and said, "Now you look like the Minister of coal." 3. *Pip* from the Night's Watch - the guy who shot the cow in this episode. 4. *Theon's right hand man* when he took Winterfell* - In this episode, he was the guy that Boris and Legosov were working with to figure out how to remove the graphite from the roof. I know there's at least one more to come. I'll wait to see if you recognize him. 😊

[@ElProf]

Don't forget about Shagga 😂 (he was the guy who drove the truck with the dosimeter instead of letting his men do it).

[@melissavukelic4138]

@@ElProf That's crazy! Not in a million years would I have recognized him! 😄

[@FireF1y644]

You forgot about Bronn? Armenian military guy in the animal control

[@melissavukelic4138]

@@FireF1y644 That's not Bronn. They don't even look alike. The Armenian soldier actor is Alexej Manvelov. Jerome Flynn plays Bronn in GoT.

[@FireF1y644]

@@melissavukelic4138 ok, he looks like a clone, i disagree

[@cripplermaximus]

I love how this couple doesn’t understand radiation despite watching four episodes of a show that takes so much time to explain it. Hahahahaha.

[@lukabozic5]

Khomyuk talked to the "boy" of 25 years (Leonid Toptunov) and you said he was incompetent at 39:50 however not revealed in the series, is that Toptunov was actually aware of the flaw in the AZ-5 button aka the small power surge before the drop, however they were in a lose lose situation. Either they don't press it and they have an uncontrollable reaction or they press it an gamble it.

[@DutchDread]

"that's waste"....you do understand that that milk is likely to be contaminated right?

[@Lemon_Force]

seems very likely they don't lol

[@PanasonicYouth21]

Even if they don’t, who cares? There’s a way to inform politely instead of being condescending

[@uggggggghhhhh]

Itll give me superpowers

[@lukin4u265]

This is a failure of our education system really... What even more irritating is how Pudgey keeps saying its all one man's fault... or saying things like "omg, i would just leave".... like no you wouldn't... they would shoot you and your family and there is nothing you could do about it. This a show about the dangers of totalitarian regimes. It's episode 4 and they still don't get what it was like... these people were cogs in a nasty people devouring machine...

[@harshalgawai746]

​@@PanasonicYouth21It's important to be condescending. If u r reacting to such a show at least read upon radioactivity even if ur education system failed to teach you

[@campagnollo]

In the opening scene, throwing away the milk and killing the cow were necessary. Both were contaminated.

[@billigmad3720]

The sscene was setup to look like a threatening scene though. So maybe the Spapuds were focused on that.

[@Luca-games007]

Those old grandmas and grandpas of the surrounding villages of Pripyat are still live there. In polish language we call them "samosioły" They decided to stay after the 1986 disaster. There are very few of them left. There are a bunch of people who regulary travel there to provide them food and other supplies. Its kinda hard to do this since the war in Ukraine started 2 years ago but they still doing this for those people. Its very common situation that for example only one specific grandma left in one vilage. By her own, alone. In other village there is a lone single one grandpa etc etc. Its horryfic for me to realize that they are alone there. For all these years, and they slowly dying of old age one by one. Some day they'll be gone forever and their houses, their legacy will be lost.

[@johnnyd1790]

Of course Dyatlov is stil alive, he was not investigating around the reactor after it exploded where the thousands of roethghen reside. He went to the bunker to report the events and sit there till he was sick.

[@hepunk]

"That cow did nothing" lmao

[@ladyhotep5189]

🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@mrb2349]

That's called having empathy. Not that you would know.

[@hepunk]

@@mrb2349 you don't know me, hope this helps.

[@ReligionIsSilly]

@@mrb2349 empathy that would get them killed. so f empathy.

[@ZacharyLoeser]

When he's getting her out of prison and she mentions that the operators pressed AZ-5, you can see the look on his face. That's when he knew. Fantastic acting.

[@IulianYT]

6:27 - "what are they doing?" - they create maps with radiation levels, so that it would be more clear where exclusion zone should be. Also, to check the dynamic over time.

[@Eddy0042]

The reason you watched the young lad shooting the animals is because that's the best way you can pay respect to the many poor lads who actually had to do it (probably scarred them for life) - we should ALWAYS remember - and NEVER let a situation like this happen again. Even if that means we do without some things!

[@SneakyCustard]

"What is the cost of lies" Well this episode really highlights the cost

[@phogue1]

So it’s important to keep in mind that you don’t become radioactive by going into an area that is contaminated. The gamma radiation is doing its damage, but you yourself do not become radioactive as long as you are decontaminated (literally washed off with soapy water) when you come out of the field. The firefighter was actually no longer a threat to his wife once his clothes were off, and he was decontaminated.

[@myphone4590]

The control room was heavily shielded and the air filtered, and Dyatlov stayed in the control room (sending others out into the rest of the facility to fetch things and do work) so he got a lower dose than most.

[@moomoopuppy508]

The "90-seconds on the roof" men were paid 800 rubles which was worth a measely $9.125 USD IN 1986.

[@forkless]

200 rubles in 1986 was considered a "good" monthly salary. So, effectively they got 4-5 months. ps. Not that there is enough money in the universe to volunteer for that kind of horror.

[@geneticjen9312]

They literally have to kill the cow and would have to even if she wasn't there

[@henrytoepel4941]

You have to keep on mind that Ulana Khomyuk is a fictional character, she was written to represent the countless scientists that played a role. Legasov and Boris, however, are historical figures.

[@Petrosman]

My dad was a kid during the Chernobyl disaster, living in Kyiv. The evacuation only happened in June, when it didn't matter anymore (the explosion happened at the end of April). Kyiv was nicely considered by the government to NOT be part of the zone affected by radiation, and the map would show a nice hole that is Kyiv being safe, while some regions south of it were considered also exposed. A city of three million, and people only days after the disaster, maybe even weeks, found out what had happened, at least the general picture. My grandad had jeans, nice good quality jeans, and one day of walking around the city in the early days made the Geiger counter squeal from the radiation coming off it. So it had to be thrown away. And every day several times a day for months, maybe even years all the streets and fields were watered so that the dust with radiation particles wouldn't go up into the air, especially important during the summer when there's not much humidity and it's dry. To this day Chernobyl remains one of the scariest places on Earth, and 2 of the 4 reactors continue working to this day, with operators working there making sure the process runs smoothly (shutting down a nuclear reactor is more dangerous than letting it run, usually). And the political climate warped around it, especially here in Germany, because of it. People being scared of nuclear energy, wanting to shut down all the reactors, which they were eventually successful at doing, since all the nuclear reactors in Germany have been shut down just a year or so ago.

[@doubleubee7523]

Gorbachev didn't want to ruin May Day celebrations.

[@ilias856]

Kiev*

[@Petrosman]

@@ilias856 Kyiv, don't start this shit

[@bencejuhasz6459]

Greetings from Hungary! So, the Soviet Army utilized a lot of old equipment to "liquidate" parts of the problem, that includes those old Mosin M91/30 rifles, those were what soldiers use to kill any and all animals. If it can take down a cow, it can surely take down a dog and despite it's name (Year of introduction:1891, Year of upgrade: 1930; hence M91/30), it' still a deadly weapon. The Soviet Army used other kind of WW2 vintage equipment-like the ISU-152 assault guns(46 metric ton combat vehicles, they worth a considerable amount of money nowadays)-to demolish houses and buildings. After the whole ordeal was done, they left the vehicles in certain places and the weapons were just dumped in holes.

[@t0dd000]

It's a forced evacuation. "No" isn't an option. Can't make exceptions. The old lady's monologue was outstanding though. She represents countless people who weathered cities adversity, but there is always something that is bigger than we are.

[@Nazdreg1]

The moment when the guy clearing the roof stumbles and falls into the water always hurts me physically... And then the supervisor staring at him saying "You are done." is next level.

[@ravensdark99]

Imagine the scale of suffering that would have caused to people and animals when they didnt get it under control and how lucky we´ve got..

[@juliant]

The grass the cow ate was contaminated, the cow itself was contaminated. Even the milk it was producing, was likewise contaminated. Sometimes you have to force the stubborn to leave... Reminds me of the grandma in Legend of Korra when the house was burning down.

[@jordanwright1061]

I've really enjoyed the reactions to this show, guys. It's been heavy, but so captivating. It's a joy to get to see you experience the show, from enjoying the levity to theorising to hiding behind your hands, it's a ride for sure. Can't wait for part 5!

[@kappa_06]

Lyudmilla Ignatenko, the fireman's woman, is alive today, and live in Kiev. After the Chernobyl's show, she was harassed by Internet users accusing her of being responsible for the death of her baby... As if the poor woman hadn't had enough suffering as it was...

[@alexflorea4879]

I'm from Romania the country south of Ukraine and I have to say everybody who reacts to this show blames Lyudmilla for her actions and not one of this so called smart people stop to think what they would do in the same situation and with the knowledge that Lyudmilla had because in the USSR nobody knew of the harm radiation could do.

[@memsesosmo5084]

​@@alexflorea4879 I would argue that this wasn't even USSR specific, because even with the information suppression few people really grasp how dangerous radiation in which doses is. We all know it's not good for us, but most in this comment section can quantify what their yearly dosis should be and what the dangers of going over is. Nevermind that radiation exposure is measured in all kind of ways all differing. The reactors are a good example for this with their poor grasp on the dangers. Ultimately, we can't know if her baby would have been OK. From her account in alexeivich's book she understood there was danger but had no way to quantify it. And even more so, she describes the efforts of trying to stay with her husband really heartwrenchingly. I wish I could say people didn't harass her because that's the last she deserves. I hope she and her family keep living long lives, even with the Ukraine war.

[@doubleubee7523]

You should have labeled your comment "Spoiler Alert" They explain that at the end of the movie, and it makes people happy when they find out.

[@doubleubee7523]

@@alexflorea4879 I agree with you. She was in love, she knew she was pregnant and had not yet told him. I think anyone young and in love would have done what she did. I only recently learned that the winds shifted and sent radiation south. Were Romanians told not to eat vegetables from home gardens? I read that Bulgarian citizens were told not to eat any food from their gardens.

[@alexflorea4879]

@@doubleubee7523 I was born in 1990 but from what my parents and grandparents told me the were told to wash everything from the gardens and they'll be OK the only problem is they were told almost 2 weeks after the incident.

[@censortube8662]

Just realized it was Pyp from Game of Thrones that shot the cow. This series has a few actors from GOT.

[@leathewolf]

There's historical footage of the men clearing the roof. It looks so like what they filmed, they could have used the original footage. The line "I told you I'd show you Moscow" plays like Hollywood, but it really happened. Legasov really said "bio-robots".

[@philipstroud6327]

The sounds in this show is so good at inducing anxiaty

[@Jack.A.C]

A little note about Lyudmilla's baby. A foetus can't actually absorb radiation from its mother, but at the time the knowledge about radiation is not what it is today and this was a common belief for a reason in the millions of birth defects that the Chernobyl disaster caused, at the time.

[@Markus117d]

But it will absorb radioactive contamination, Just as the mother would have through the air, food & water , And much of the mothers resources are directed to the development of the foetus..

[@caribbeanman3379]

Perhaps it wasn't worded correctly. I took at as meaning the growing baby absorbed radioactive elements absorbed into the mother's body from her interaction with her husband. We know for example, that the thyroid accumulates Iodine, so it there is radioactive iodine in the environment - and there typically is from an incident of this nature - they thyroid would absorb it leaving the person at elevated risk of developing thyroid cancer. So it's not the radiation itself that she absorbed, but radioactive elements, which then get absorbed and incorporated in the growing foetus' body.

[@AdhamOhm]

​@caribbeanman3379 Another medically significant isotope is strontium-90, which is so chemically similar to elemental calcium that the body will use that to build bone tissue, where it irradiates the marrow and causes leukemia. But in order for a fetus to be affected by this, the mother would have to be eating contaminated produce, meat or milk. Whatever contamination that led to Lyudmilla's baby's death is more likely to have come from her being in Pripyat during the crucial fallout stage. She got to leave to be with her husband, but it was already too late.

[@Jack.A.C]

@@Markus117d Yeah sorry of course I didn't mean to give the impression the baby was shielded from the radiation, just rather that in the show they say the baby absorbed it all INSTEAD, when in fact they would have been equally or similarly irradiated.

[@Lemon_Force]

"knowledge about radiation is not what it is today" And you got 2 people sitting here today saying its a waste to throw out irradiated milk 😂

[@marisaipardo]

Fun fact: The actor who played the soldier that confronted the old lady and shot her cow in the beginning of this episode is the same guy who played Pyp, the Night’s Watch friend of Jon and Sam who got shot thru the neck by Ygritte during that season 4 battle in Game of Thrones. There are more Game of Thrones actor cameos like the Roose Bolton actor. He plays a prosecutor but the other cameos I don’t remember. It’s a “blink and you’ll miss it” kinda thing lol.

[@fuzzy__dunlop]

45:30 - the irony of King Wrong getting a kick out of Pudgey's prediction not being true.

[@davesthrowawayacc1162]

When they're burying the dogs, that that guys singing the song of the Volga boatmen - about the men who had to trudge through the mud by the side of the river to drag boats and barges upstream of the Volga river before the age of steam. A hard, tiring, dirty, dangerous and back breaking job done The Heavy in TF2 also sings it when he fires his weapon for long enough

[@sirpurrsalot6588]

Back then even in the West noone know details but we kids had to stay inside for weeks especially during rain. They issued Iodine in schools. No fresh vegetables or derry products were aviable for a long time. Only canned ones dated before the event were deemed ok. Playgrounds were closed and steamcleaned, sandboxes exchanged, same goes for Soccerfields and Tenniscourts. Streets were kinda empty like during lockdown and anyone was somehow glued to the TV watching news and terrified. It was really scarry.

[@lethaldose2000]

Hey Pudgey, I feel for the woman in the maternity ward so much. Having to sit there recovering from a failed delivery surrounded by crying healthy babies. Such a gut-wrenching scenario. ---------- You have to understand that it was not until the 90's that American nurses were able to advocate for a separate section of the hospital to house mothers of failed deliveries. ----------- BEfore that they were all housed together as is shown in "Chernobyl". -------- It was not till much later for the rest of the world, since many hospitals had limited space.

[@sankharaYT]

"Nooooughhh! I just wanna take them hooouuughhhmmme." I seriously adore your guys' accents! 😂😍

[@IulianYT]

37:12 - the liquidators didn't improve their health, and some of them later got different health issues, but to be fair - they didn't get that big doses of radiation like the firefighters and station workers who died in the first weeks, and the consequences were far from that terrible, some of them probably didn't even notice.

[@terran5364]

One of the details about the rooftop liquidators that can be overlooked is how unprotected humans go by a limited timeframe around sources of ionizing radiation-which is how workers of the IAEA actually handle radioactive sources. The IAEA doesn't have access to funding for robots, so, typically, retrieving an orphan source (a radioactive source not under regulatory control) is done manually through brute force; a lot of labor, moving on a timer. For a better understanding of how this looks in practice, look up video recordings of the IAEA's 2002 recovery of two orphan sources in a forest in Georgia. This is because exposure to sources of ionizing radiation works exactly like light; it _radiates_ outward. It isn't a disease you can catch. The further away you are, the more material you can put between yourself and the source, and the shorter you stand there being irradiated, the less your statistical life expectancy drops. The best thing you can do is work around the source, keeping your distance and limiting the energy absorbed into each individual. This Chornobyl nuclear disaster was a mistake utterly preventable with the technology available in the USSR at the time and a lesson in how corner-cutting gets people killed. Regardless, the cleanup operation was necessary, and the men you saw in the fields clearing materials and shooting animals had far better chances of long life than the liquidators who went onto the roof.

[@stephenwilliams5004]

This episode really has some amazing moments from the cinematic perspective. The scenes with the team killing dogs is hard to watch and more then a bit brutal, but it conveys hardships that the liquidation teams had to go through, and if you look at Paval's reactions from the first scene to the second you can tell how much the work has taken an emotional toll on him. Second is during the roof clearing scene, the time from when the send them out to when they call them back is actually 90 seconds to give the viewers as sense of how little time they had, but how long it must have felt.

[@sirpurrsalot6588]

The Animal culling was not only in and around the exclusion zone. I can remember crying farmers on the news in Germany, Belgium, France etc. cause they had lifestock and derry cows out as the fallout cloud passed western europe. They all had to kill their animals and dispose of their produce. It was hearthbreaking.

[@zeigbert1743]

Being on dog destruction detail would be soul-crushing.

[@lethaldose2000]

Hey Spartan and Pudgey, that scene where they have to clean all of that debris off the roof, is one long tracking shot, an ingenious way to get you into the mind of the soldier on the roof. ------ The sound design with the meter being the score of the scene gives you chills. And at the end. COMRADE SOLIDER.... YOU're DONE.

[@Tigermania]

Well done you made it through a very tough piece of TV. This episode was never going to be a fun fun time but really does show the horror of cleaning up after the nuclear accident.

[@overthetop-yv6ji]

General Tarakanow named the three parts of the roof. The first two parts of the roof are the names of his women he was married with. The third part and at this time the most dangerous place on earth is named Mascha. Mascha is Tarakanows older sister. I guess both loves each other....🤔😅

[@rachelmaxwell5936]

9:16 Radiation doesn’t work like that. It doesn’t spread from person to person the way a virus does. You can get radiation poisoning from exposure to clothing that is covered with irradiated dust particles, which is why they had to remove the firefighters’ clothing, but the firefighters were almost directly exposed to the exposed reactor core. These soldiers aren’t nearly as exposed (though the “biorobots” on the roof were far more exposed). There’s little danger of Pavel getting radiation sickness just from being in a tent with the two other soldiers who have been there longer. But they’re all at a drastically increased risk for developing cancer later just by being in the area at all.

[@satsunada]

I know it sounds tough, but the animal clearers didn't all find just normal animals. The radiation took it's toll on most creatures, some worse than others. One report, there was a lump of 4 legged flesh, covered in tumors, no fur, flesh melting off, they had no idea what it was.. until it meowed.

[@ryanhampson673]

The “you’re done” was a double meaning. He was telling him he was done with his task but also it was kind of telling the audience he’s done as in dead from being out there too long.

[@timothyburrows9622]

"Scherbina said calmly."

[@Redsdelight]

What’s the point? The point is that if a Soviet soldier tells you to do something in 1980’s Russia, you do it. It’s really that simple. Also, the cow’s milk would be contaminated at this point.

[@audiencemember0098]

what a dick move shooting the cow instead of the old lady! lol the cow had to be killed anyway

[@obsidianspectre4281]

The liquidators on the Masha roof felt the radiation. They described it as being under water soundwise.

[@samuelmaldonado4266]

Your guys commitment and schedule to these reactions is something else! Excited to watch!

[@MusicFoxOfficial]

My friend's grandpa was a liquidator on the roof. He had cancer in his arms and had to amputate it, but he's alive and well today.

[@blinkachu5275]

You made it through the toughest episode, you're homefree from here ^^

[@datdudeinred]

Btw the firefighter's wife was indeed pregnant but her baby survived irl. & they both were alive & lived normal life. Ps the director of this show also went on to direct the last of us - another great show. Btw they just finished the final dome's structure's construction a few years ago and removed the temporary dome structure which was on rails. Also there are many videos from different youtubers who actually went inside some legally some illegally. You can also see the hospital where they threw the clothes of the firefighters.

[@jonathangill6584]

He was going to have to kill the cow anyway. I think he wanted to wait until she left but got frustrated. Also: you couldn’t force feed me milk from a radiated cow.

[@o.b.7217]

"You couldn't force feed me..." Wanna bet?

[@jonathangill6584]

@@o.b.7217 yeah I worded that poorly.

[@warriorpitbull1170]

I have a very close friend who lives in Ukraine. She used to live near Odessa but Russia has taken that part of Ukraine and she had to move to Kiev until she can save the money to leave the country. She's now 27 years old. Her family were of the people that lived near the Kiev Oblast region near Chernobyl. She has, as well as many others, a lasting effect of the Chernobyl incident. Apparently many people who lived in that region passed genetic mutations onto their children. She suffers from cystic lymph nodes that can potentially become tumorous. She has them evaluated periodically. I was 17 years old when Chernobyl happened. We were entering the 'end' days of the cold war and I was entering the Marine Corps. In those days we knew what nuclear radiation was capable of. Over the years, we have apparently lost that knowledge due to a failure to educate the younger generations. Kept in check, nuclear power could save our energy problems - full stop. Our technologies have changed and we are much more capable of managing nuclear power safely and even have safe ways to eliminate nuclear waste. The Chernobyl incident set us back drastically in that course - though there are many societies that use nuclear power to this day in relative safety.

[@neilaslayer]

Radiation goes down the through food chain, and is concentrated in the mother's milk. THAT is why he threw the milk out. In Europe you couldn't get fresh milk for 6 months after Chernobyl. They weren't drinking it anywhere.

[@placebo7267]

I remember watching all this unfold on TV as a kid. In the UK over 1000 miles away farmers were having all their cattle and sheep destroyed. The liquidators on the roof were the homeless and politically unwanted scooped up and sent to their deaths.

[@emoharalampiev1590]

Yeah the dog thing is wild. And still a good amount survived, and kept living through the crazy harsh condition. And from what I've read dogs lifespan isn't long enough for a tumor or some such to really develop, so even if they are getting affected by radiation, its not enough to really matter.

[@ccink3931]

5:20 all the animals + including the plants + trees all had to be destroyed because anything in the area would be spreading high lvls of radiation so they can't just let them stay or it puts others in danger

[@zach.0]

Barry Keoghan in this episode reminds me that you should watch Saltburn!

[@blizzardofodds4220]

Like Boris stated earlier to Lagosov that when your family's well being and friends well being are on the line then your ability to stand up for the truth or tell the truth fades. They never state this in the movie but Lagosov is actually married and he has a couple of kids as well so he would be worried about how they could be treated if he tells the truth in Vienna. Remember that Russia at that time was a communist country and you just follow and do what your told based on the governments recommendations.

[@IgoZoom1]

I've watched this series at least 10 times now. This episode makes me sick every time I watch it. Despite the misery, there are a few parts of this episode that I love. Bacho (head guy, animal control) is funny and kind in his own way. He is very empathetic to Pavel. I love when Boris and Valery hug and laugh. I LOVE when Boris loses his shit on the phone! Khomyuk is my favorite character in this show. She's as close to a badass as anyone, especially a woman, could be in the Soviet Union. "We live in a country where babies have to die to protect their mothers. It's time for someone to start telling the truth!" and "To hell with your deal. And to hell with our lives." She also mentions that she's been looking in on Lyudmila (fireman's wife). Her investigation is in no way related to her, so she's obviously doing it out of kindness and concern. We saw a bit of this last episode when she was interviewing one the men and his nose started bleeding. She put her hand inside the plastic and wiped it. I love her! Three was the second heaviest and Four was the heaviest. Five/final is not nearly as difficult to watch. You'll also get answers to most of your questions and you'll see how we ended up at the start of episode One.

[@riculfriculfson7243]

10:26. That guy is a GREAT teacher.

[@geofftottenperthcoys9944]

Excellent series, only gets better. Enjoy guys!