We Caught a Cheater in OnlyFangs and Sent Him to the Arena!

[@TubeZugs]

Watching him fight and take a few people with him was cinema

[@JoshBuesching]

He's an amazing PvP'er. Mad Respect

[@chugns1481]

yeah, until Zeroji came in

[@JoshBuesching]

@@chugns1481 Which was kinda cheap, but I understand why he did it. Seq was never getting out alive.

[@methalor8915]

@@JoshBuesching Brother its not cheap, you enter the gurubashi arena on any server at any level, theres a high chance a max lvl will put your healthbar on vacation, your level or reason for being in that arena does not change the fact you openly put yourself at risk to be killed by anyone.

[@chugns1481]

@@JoshBuesching I wanna to live in a timeline where he iceblocks while watching Zeroji die to the undead raid, that's all

[@CobFryer]

That timing was IMPECABLE! "I CAN EXPLAIN SODA" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@RedPN]

Series of unfortunate events but the arena was top tier content.

[@Wreckful70]

Untill the lv 60 got sent in yes, everything befor was content

[@Xnightdeathx]

Nah the 60 going in was fine, it was the arena no rules. And they sent in the executioner to make sure the job got done. Dude knew he was dying when he went into the arena

[@Finnishmanni]

​@@Xnightdeathx He was told that he is going to die, it was "scripted" event. The lvl 60 was sent to there, but he was nervous as fuck, since that means if there would have been 40-50 players they could have killed him, so he was taking a risk as well. But yeah, there were 3 options, delete the character without any content, do a scripted event to delete his character or the most extreme kick from the guild, which will happen to all future cheaters.

[@ajgajg5026]

@@Xnightdeathx Tbf the rules were "You survive 10 minutes". There was never a guarantee of death until the 60 got sent in.

[@ajgajg5026]

@@Finnishmanni I don't think you understand WoW if you think a bunch of level 30's are going to kill a 60 easily. If they are able to hit him it'll be for under 50 damage, and the pet will be two shotting them all. Sure he MIGHT die (as someone who has played since 2005 I doubt it), but most of those 30's are dying as well.

[@gengar618]

That was the best thing I’ve ever heard come out of Miz’s mouth. What a fantastic idea

[@frequentsee3815]

Next to deez nuts

[@AwangKhairunnas]

And then Summit got angry for the wrong reason and started drama. Bruh we literally can't have fun content to watch without people being like this

[@shinyyedm]

@@AwangKhairunnas ehhh I can see both sides nice for someone to stand up for themselves and not just stay quiet

[@Nagalord591]

​@shinyyedm there is literally only one side, this guy is lucky he didn't just get gkicked like soda originally said would happen to cheaters, summit is being a bitch

[@TheSko90]

@@AwangKhairunnas Honestly it's nice seeing a larger streamer stand up for something. Many of the smaller ones end up back peddling their views because their still riding off of Soda or Miz viewer count.

[@Desertsol1]

"If you cheat, we will not make content from it, you will simply be removed from guild"

[@f91-f97]

The game dies and all content with it after 1 month (as every classic re release does) so it makes sense they milk anything and everything as much as possible

[@StarkPierrot]

@@f91-f97 Yeah, but you cant say one thing and do the exact opposite.

[@BMW-8814]

O y V e y

[@Austrveg]

@@StarkPierrot You can, he just did. People do it all the time (:

[@PLAuviance]

@@StarkPierrot You clearly can :)

[@suunnz]

Remember guys if this actually makes you angry, you need to use soap and actually let the water in the shower touch you. Scrub a bit then go outside for a walk!

[@AdoringAdmirer]

xD

[@thestoebz]

I don’t think anyone is actually angry

[@nobodyImportantl0l0l]

dont forget to open the curtains and let some sun in, its good for your pale dead ghost looking skin

[@Gizzardx0]

who is mad?

[@BirchTrees]

@@Gizzardx0he never said anyone ‘is’ he said IF

[@QKDrone]

"we're not gonna make content out of it" proceeds to make a whole event

[@zippo718]

They are streamers doing this for entertainment after all. Unfortuantely Summit happened.

[@lilb1344]

@@zippo718 so its summits fault for watching it go down on stream i guess

[@WesterlyToast]

@@lilb1344 summits whining over nothing. grow up dude

[@lilb1344]

@@WesterlyToast not even close to what conversation is about lil boy keep doing tricks on it

[@wickkk]

dumb take

[@batilarchives]

Sequisha is a sweat. He is not a casual. As of today, he is level 16.

[@jazzmeltsface]

Summits whole stance was that Sequisha was casual yet he 1v2'd two higher level people in the arena with ease. And not to mention he was higher level then Summit....

[@BMW-8814]

IKR Summit is crying like a lost Hardcore makes our PvP Drama seem like nothing lol... lmao

[@batilarchives]

@jazzmeltsface Yes Summit was just being dumb or got high blood pressure.

[@fox.5730]

Glad to hear he kept going, he deserves mad respect for agreeing to partake in this, content or not people do not like being the butt end of the joke and many people would've just deleted their character.

[@Smokie_Wilson]

No. Summit was voicing his opinion in a country that allows free speech. Sodemocrat was only targeting summit because he has a voice. Other people who stream weren't happy too but you didn't see anyone targeting them. Sequisha did a minimal thing that could've been resolved by simply making him delete his toon or give away all his gold and gear. Instead he allowed a "Bully" to victimize a lvl 37. That's my opinion and the great thing about living in Merica, I'm allowed that 😂😂🤷🖕

[@ZoeXspecturm4698]

I can just imagine Vei talking like this all day, and then goes to do something and it comes out in public

[@M.to.the.L]

her RP is top notch!

[@Stixnstonez49]

Her voice is like nails on a chalkboard with that accent

[@M.to.the.L]

I prefer it to her vtube voice, but everyone has their own preferences.

[@megatinmand5524]

I'm sure she has tons of practice from doing the p3d0 bait voice

[@memcmeepants2392]

it was cringe as fuck

[@SpicySharp]

Someone who deactivates an add on isn’t just doing to for “bag space”

[@N1Moses]

It was 100% a lie, the items were seperated rather than listed in a stack typically done to maximise the gold return of each individual item.

[@arimesser9866]

Oh yeah I need to make bag space, guess I'll just cheat instead of walking 5 feet to a vendor. Bullshit excuse saying its for bag space

[@xibbas7055]

Or has a mailbox full of completed acutions...

[@DLLW93]

Yeah and the fact his auctions sold just totally exposes the fact he didnt use it for bag space. Love how someone would knowlingly cheat then try and BS out of punishment. SMH

[@iiiiiic9823]

​@@arimesser9866they are items he wanted to keep, not ones he wanted to sell

[@everynamewastakenomg]

Never trust a man with a mustache like that forsenCD

[@teddypicker8799]

Dr disrespect and rich campbell

[@Alijamaru]

Yep the mustache game strong af tho

[@zoltanvonbozzay9678]

If only soda could grow a stash 😂

[@Purriah]

@@AlijamaruI’m sure the smell emanating from it is strong

[@luuin]

​@@Purriah You don't get a mustache like that without keeping it clean and conditioned. Wind up with a dandruff crop duster.

[@itskhro]

This is fine since its the FIRST cheater catch, get a lil content out and make a point at the same time. But please just kick/restart them after so we avoid this dogshit coming from summit and in everyones chats circlejerking the subject. Its all everyone talks about now.

[@frozello14]

I would say Gold buying (with real money) or Mob tagging (that lasts for hours) or getting too large Handouts from randoms (items or gold) should be instant gkick without content as that's not how the game is meant to be played. Some minor violations that may not be allowed in guild rules, but are allowed in normal playthrough (like using Auction House) should be punishments, but I wouldn't put it in same category as gold buying. Although this shouldn't be something that happens weekly for content, but lets be real viewer count (of the streamer who gets caught) matters a little bit, when these decisions are made and of course, how sweaty, casual or newbie they are to the game. Personally I wouldn't mind Gurubashi Arena being some kind of punishment that happens, but that also might encourages cheating, if you get spotlight for 30 minutes or so and that would be quite harsh punishment for losing weekly race competition.

[@jesse420SOCAL]

summit had logical point it wasn't honorable the whole point was to survive vs similar toons no one said lvl 60. Bc then that gave him 0% chance im sure he would of took coward debuff and cherry on top he killed his character and he wasn't reinvited to onlyfangs so what was the point of killing him just kick him from guild and move separate ways?

[@tay1144555]

It should be choice, gkick or 10 min arena ffa

[@zhadez10]

@@frozello14 Well you're wrong because the rules were established long time ago. It's guild self found and that means no auction house period.

[@zhadez10]

@@jesse420SOCAL Bro this is hardcore and the undeads had a raid ready to back up the cheater speficially if Zeroji went in but then they pussied out. The cheater had to go down, he should've been kicked from the guild and he's very lucky to have gotten a chance+content.

[@danielcanty5727]

Mizkif rubbed his 2 braincells together to come up with a decent idea

[@Kirtap157]

ït was cool idea until Zeroji showed up and one tap him

[@dalama1161]

@@Kirtap157 That was hilarious. He deserved to have his character deleted to begin with, he was given a chance to get out of it when he shouldn't have been. Sequisha isn't a casual WoW player, he'll get over it. Cry about it. You cheat, you lose.

[@TembI4999]

Do you know that this whole content guild is his idea too?

[@danielcanty5727]

@@TembI4999 Really? that makes sense somehow. But hey man Im lvong it

[@chikenman334]

this was PEAK wow classic content

[@Maverick2k]

It was, until he sent in the turbo-virgin to one-shot him.

[@vosovoso5220]

@@Maverick2k its just a game princess relax

[@ewweg]

@@Maverick2k turbo-virgin t1 viewer comment

[@zao9256]

How it is content. You promise guy he can fight his way out then let 60 kill him. Also using petris is biggest cheat in game.

[@balmainz]

@@Maverick2k turbo virgin is fuckin hilarious

[@PileOPoop1]

I love how summit1g came out on bottom after this whole ordeal.

[@Wreckful70]

He was 100% right tho.

[@55marpo]

@@Wreckful70No he wasn’t lmao. He cheated, he died because they told him to kill. That’s it

[@goldmeistergeneral]

​@@Wreckful70Jesus Christ, Summit was being really unhinged over nothing. The rules were "you cheat, you delete" and he was given a slim chance of survival just for the content opportunity. If anything Soda went way too easy on him, but Summit gotta get butthurt over nothing

[@Schluviel]

@@55marpo Don't talk to the summit1g fans, they'll die on the same hill as he did HAHA

[@Huckle777]

@@Wreckful70 He was 100% on one lmfao

[@Cuticho]

Cheating should not be rewarded with content as you yourself said. No mercy should be allowed.

[@vladimir4526]

And he was wrong. Its better to get something good out of something bad. Than get nothing out of it. No one is rewarding the cheater. The cheater is rewarding the guild by being punished in the arena. This was the best decision and peak content. Thanks Soda for changing your mind.

[@Kage_Dickson]

@@vladimir4526 Peak content, but will make others cheat, sequisha probably got a lot more viewers since this event, so he's happy.

[@frozello14]

I think people forget that there's different layers of "cheating" like buying gold with real money compared to using Auction House can't really be facing same punishment.

[@kerkertrandov459]

​@@frozello14 whats wrong with buying a token then selling it for gold? We do this all the time in retail, if they wanted to truly be SSF they could have checked the checkbox at char creation, trading with each other is lame anyway. Either ure fully SSF or not at all, not this weird half shit with guilds and people who turn off addon and cheat

[@TJS1002]

The level 3 getting the chest though lol

[@frequentsee3815]

Pog

[@ThatCheekyWalrus]

Sequisha plays wow, he knows what he was doing, he knows the rules, and he knows the punishment. He's a smart guy, this wasn't an accident and it should have been a /gkick even though I like him, rules are rules.

[@vladimir4526]

No. Rules must be changed if a better rule has been found. Thats the point of rules. This is obviously a way better and entertaining solution than /gkick. This way, atleast you get something good out of it.

[@M.to.the.L]

@@vladimir4526 That's not how rule changes work. You execute the rule and then amend it AFTER implementation to adopt the new interpretation. Then decide if any past infractions will be forgiven or punishment changed to align with the spirit of the new. BUT, in this case, I really like the content that came out of it and am totally cool with all of it. It's just not what I would want to be playing under if I were involved.

[@grilledleeks6514]

no one cares nerd.

[@omega1231]

@@M.to.the.L Do guilds you play in function like overtly beaurocratic governments? cause it sounds like it. Fair if that's your jam, but i mean it's a video game brother.

[@M.to.the.L]

@@omega1231 naw man, but if you're going to argue about the semantics of how "rules" work, you gotta go into that level of rigor. You got people here saying soda should be kicked for changing how he approached the situation. It's a clown show in the comments all around.

[@11sajad11]

Sardaco's rage because he was killed by a high level player in Gurubashi is 10/10 content. I mean it's obvious that streamers believe that wow is theirs and the rule of gurubashi doesn't apply to them. Since the gurubashi arena has existed, low levelers have been killed there and there are also many streamers who kill low levelers. You're hosting an "event" there and that's why normal players are no longer allowed in there? Respect the gurubashi rules because there are no rules and honor in the gurubashi arena!

[@englishtea1057]

He’s not getting gkicked? He deactivated his addon and sold things on the AH. I doubt it was just for bag space cuz he could’ve set the price to 10000g and no one could’ve paid for it.

[@westonwright5029]

Gkick is boring. This was some gladiator shit. It’s still just a game at the end of the day. Have some fun with it

[@akshitrao2885]

This was way better than just kicking.. all the streamers benefited with the viewers and content

[@PatrickJesp]

The rule is gkick or character deletion.

[@Notski]

@@PatrickJesp well the rule was just gkick originally. But also all the rules are subject to change obviously and this was the right call imo

[@Jesusaross]

Cheaters shall cheat again. Intent, deliberation, and execution of action, are not random events. After-the-fact deflection, trivialization, and narrative manipulation are signals to heed. Predictions of patterns of individual behavior are not to be underestimated. Gkick should be the only option here.

[@PatrickJesp]

Guys.... He was SUPPOSED to die...everybody knows it. It doesnt matter if it was a lvl 59 or not. The rules says gkick or delete char. If he would've survive.. That would have been the real issue. Bending the rules for some and not for others.

[@Notski]

Rule said gkick period. Delete char was Chance being lenient.

[@limear]

Yeah he was 100% gonna get killed so it ended up being cinema

[@The666opal111]

S1G has indeed brain damage.

[@ssk58607]

@@Notskiwhich was fun

[@Deefoh]

it's all about the content. this worked out very well

[@gakkoniikimasuka]

vei was born to be a troll, the voice fits so well lmao

[@NerdletteGaming]

her voice is top tier troll yea :D she sounds amazing

[@holyrs1575]

Whats her twitch, she sounds fun

[@Stefan-dr7fn]

@@holyrs1575 vei

[@aphelion___]

the biggest con of onlyfangs is that we have to listen to that insufferable rtrd more than regularly

[@batilarchives]

I hope chat hoppers from Summit won't discourage her from doing RP.

[@gibble7863]

You know whats crazy is that Soda ACTUALLY looks and sounds like he feels really bad about it. I like Sequisha, and its feelsbadman, but the rules are the rules. He got off lucky with even the slightest chance to get away scott free. No remorse. Make an example. To be fair to him, he played that really fucking well. I think this was the best timeline.

[@jesse420SOCAL]

Then why wont soda reinvite him into onlyfangs yet what was the point of all this killing 70 hour character getting punished if in the end you where gonna get kicked from all content of onlyfangs.

[@piestypushiba]

@@jesse420SOCAL wdym he's still in OnlyFangs

[@jesse420SOCAL]

@piestypushiba my gf showed me his live stream right now and he is not in onlyfangs and he removed onlyfangs from his twitch title

[@fudgewon625]

Auction house was a 100% NO, not "only for bag space"

[@LeodimasLP]

"Freddie Mercury caught cheating? Guess he was under pressure to win!"

[@PeepoFrog]

This idea was way better than simply "deleting the character". I feel like this is actually a lore accurate way the Horde (Especially the Orcs) would deal with a cheater😂

[@Ratm91]

I don't care you guys said you wouldn't make content out of cheaters, this was sick af. Props to Miz for the idea and Seq for taking his lumps

[@mafflewobster5075]

As a newcomer, unaware of the Trolls faction rules, Vei joining the call and talking troll talk had me dying.

[@ashash8026]

It's jamaican u racist

[@80AM.]

​@ashash8026 hey u with the anime pfp, yes, you snowflake, stfu

[@Garaylo]

@@ashash8026 nah mon, dat be da language of de trolls, servant only to da loa

[@mafflewobster5075]

@ What? How is that racist? The troll speech for WoW is loosely based on Jamaican speech, not directly Jamaican. How does that make me racist?

[@ahmadalhazmi2133]

Bro she’s fucking cringe and annoying af Worst jamaicanXtroll accent I’ve ever heard Couldn’t finish the vid cus of that annoying cringe. B

[@Silent_xM3dusa]

Title: “we caught a cheater and had him executed in game”

[@jay-rgroup]

Death by Gurubashi was such a brilliant idea

[@bmem1993]

Peak cinema would be Sequisha hitting 60 and challenging Zeroji to mak'gora. That would be the ultimate storyline

[@Antiform]

OMG this is the timeline we need! LOL would love to see this

[@onslaughtvanquish]

We should give him a pass based on the strength of that mustache.

[@F4ILS4FE_GAMING]

If everyone’s so tough on Soda for being too soft he should just appoint an executioner or executioners to carry out the law. When it's confirmed everything else is carried out by them. No more negotiating.

[@sheiktheninja6662]

I was thinking the same thing, like the factions each have their own leader, why not let the leaders of the factions decide?

[@mrreliable2220]

@@sheiktheninja6662 In a way the trolls did decide. They sent a max level to kill him. But i agree it should have been an execution by a max level or organized party from the start.

[@joelikesthings]

@@sheiktheninja6662 Putting it up to the race leaders sounds like it would just cause more drama lol a designated 3rd person who just enforces rules (like "disable add-on/cheat knowingly = gkick or character death") would be better. Fuck negogiating because it gave people the impression that it's something that CAN be negotiated over.

[@warmanreaper]

@@sheiktheninja6662 I had this thought too and it made the situation worse, cause Only the trolls made the decision to execute him. (and payed for it with gold questionably......)

[@Skugg]

"If you cheat you'll simply be removed from the guild" "We don't want to make content out of cheating" ends up making an entire youtube video out of it. I feel for him tho! Go agane!

[@Jwitty]

the girl that was talking like a troll is a fkn beast. literally the best immersion. i wish i had a guild like this :(

[@wooplaw1080]

Think you’re referring to veibae, her and soda are dating

[@grilledleeks6514]

@@wooplaw1080 because thats relevant to anything

[@wooplaw1080]

@@grilledleeks6514 it could be, you never know

[@Deefoh]

@@wooplaw1080 thanks. i came to the comments wondering who this was!

[@RealTeeroh]

that girl annoying as hell

[@NillaIggy]

the guy who died seems like such a genuine dude. cheating is bad tho.... i guess

[@brianshutka5148]

He knew the rules.

[@Skykissel]

that was approached in such a mature and respectful manner that i almost forgot it was sodapoppin💀

[@ProStorms1]

Best punishment honestly just g kicking would be boring

[@SimonC82686]

I'm certain most people that are mad that Zeroji killed Seq didn't even follow the fight and are just mindless drones from Summit's or Seq's chat just trying to carry out their lord's will. At the point Zeroji intervene's, his character was dead either way. He had no mana, no class cd's, no pot and was full dotted so couldn't bandage. Hodz was full hp and mana with another void summoned already and Dala was also full hp and inches away from being in intercept range. The most Seq could have done was kamikaze in with mortar. At least Seq got to kill a lvl 30 mage and his rogue friend killed the 43 hunter for him on his way out.

[@TonkiTV]

He fought with honor after an honorless deed! Redemption in the afterlife o7

[@KingDennisJensen]

**grabs popcorn** , **folding chair emote** , *Michael Jackson eating popcorn gif** .

[@TraxisOnTheLines]

"We are not going to make content out of cheaters. Kicked, no content, just removed." "Here's us making content out of the first cheater we caught." Not a good look.

[@everettrahn6182]

Going into discord with him and telling him he hopes he comes out alive, then leaving and having the level 60 go kill him is brutal

[@darkadia6520]

That whole beef with Soda and Summit last night was wild

[@HickieyFS]

Summit always managing to be on the wrong side in literally every single situation he's involved in lol. Dude just needs to keep his mouth shut, he's much more likeable that way.

[@M.to.the.L]

@@HickieyFS It'd be different if he was intentionally being the heel. But I don't think he's smart enough to do it.

[@sgisme]

"beef" sadly mr. 1g was in the wrong on this one

[@leviteriini3345]

summits whole point was the amount of hours sequisha put in which is stupid because he got paid for those hours by streaming. It's like me going to a normal job and being mad they are stealing hours of my life away from me

[@DaemonAlucard]

I understand it. But layer is different. Seq broke a rule. And in turn had to die. Soda allowed his own rule to be broken, making content out of it. No content would mean auto death. If it was auto death, there may have been left over bad blood. But through content, and the chance to live, the minimum amount of bad blood is left over. I think overall, this was the best result.

[@Zijkrial]

10:25 holy crap, I get that he cheated but it's being dealt with. That chat made me realize how many kids are playing, and are like "FINALLY I CAN TALK CRAP TO A STREAMER." Also I dno why exactly, but I love Vei's troll RP.

[@mynameistweeta]

vei is good at RP, its why she can handle being a v-tuber.

[@MedievalWaffle365]

@@mynameistweeta I literally thought she was ai, her voice is so good lol

[@fignuts14]

Gotta disagree. Her voice is grating.

[@ByoUng-g4c]

sequisha actually a real one for giving up his character +respect -time lol

[@asm3r]

"were not making content out of cheaters" first cheater: lets make content out of it. "were not letting anyone race change because people will abuse it" lets make esfand change race from troll. What's next?

[@Daniel-er7vs]

What a glorious broom on his face-glad you found joy in WoW after MythBusters, Jamie! 🧔‍♂

[@joelikesthings]

lol I just watched the initial call with Sequisha for the first time and he was guilt tripping Soda so hard. He should have just accepted it and moved on. You can't KNOWINGLY cheat and then get all "b-but I don't wanna kill my character, this seems over the top"... then don't cheat??? Genuinely, that was kind of shitty of him. He put Soda in a 100x more awkward position by making it so difficult. Nothing against the guy, no hate to him and 0 judgement on his personality/character, BUT that can be the case while still saying he was being a bit of a bitch here. He knew he was cheating and he SHOULD have known the consequences for being caught. It's like skipping near to the front of a reallly long queue, waiting 10 minutes till you get to the front, and then being pouty cause the owner told you to go back and "wasted" 10 mins of your time. Like no, you did something you knew was wrong, go wait in the queue like everyone else. Edit: lol the level of delusion in some of these comments needs to be studied. Soda's only mistake was feeling bad for him

[@jackmiddleton2080]

If Soda was at all involved with Zeroji going into attack then Soda should stand trial because that was not part of the agreement. The server was supposed to decide his fate. He was not supposed to be attacked under Soda's orders. If it is cut and dry that soda ordered the execution then Soda should have to stand in the arena for 10 minutes.

[@undeadman7676]

In that case, Summit and his fans should just be permabanned and blacklisted from the guild for the targeted harassment of multiple members of the guild :)

[@sunderwire]

I know soda doesn’t want to make content out of cheaters but man this was golden 🤣

[@reshiletsplay]

Bro i dont care at this point if people cheat, if they get armor, let them take theirs off, if the take a weapon, let them put theirs away. And let the Loa's decide their fate. This was peak content. Long live Vei'jin.

[@TomSaysStuff]

Best solution to make something fun out of somebody being a dishonest and ruining it for others. Deserved what he got imo. Defo should just gkick though and exclude from joining in future or the concerns over rewarding cheaters with attention are valid. Like this guy not only cheated but also knew what he was doing and tried to obscure/deceive the viewers. Alot of streamers would love to take his spot in the guild and he ruined it for himself by cheating, there should be little sympathy for him just cause he seems like a nice guy.

[@Tzar230]

That is such a misrepresentation of what happened. Also, do you not know he fucking Sequisha is? You gotta get hip son

[@Themasterslayer44]

The fact she tried to get him to change the rules(awarding points) after he already did is even crazier (making content out of it) DONT worry soda fanboys he ended up changing the rules again lmfao

[@theogrickyrick5297]

This video and comments are making me realize the wow community needs to get outside more

[@FacelessOne01]

im outside in the barrens right now what do you mean

[@KR4Z3D666]

What a cinematic masterpiece

[@rudy9022]

Cheat = 60k+ viewer platform to make content and promo

[@Valkemen]

This guy should be given a choice. Either he leaves the guild forever, or his character dies and he has the right to make another character.

[@khmer5o3]

Lol😂 you folded so fast after Miz called and suggested arena. You made a big deal about not making content out of cheaters..

[@vladimir4526]

And? he was wrong before, he is right now. Be glad he changed his decision.

[@mrreliable2220]

@@vladimir4526 Well he wasn't wrong. Cause people like summit will always cry about how content was made and if soda followed the guild rules no one would of said anything or cried about another guild member. Soda should of followed the rules and by not doing so opened up the door for Summit to cry and send hate to another streamer for role playing with trolls to execute the cheater. Soda also realized it and won't make content again for cheaters.

[@pepperoni243]

@@vladimir4526 making content out of it will just cause more people to cheat

[@slippers8000]

​​@@mrreliable2220depends, everyone has opted in to Soda being the one and only authority so someone crying after doesn't really matter. Haters are gonna hate, makes little sense to blame Soda for giving way for Summit watchers getting stoked by Summits bad take. Even then the slippery slope doesn't really work since one person has complete authority. Watch the next person who cheat just get Gkicked and ignored, then no one who still wants to play won't cheat for attention.

[@khmer5o3]

i don't know why summit was crying about zeroji... the alternative was to delete his account. it was up to the server to decide the cheaters fate. he at least got a 0.1% chance of surviving versus deleting his character right away. if anything, summit should be crying about NO CONTENT on cheaters.

[@tactical2169]

That was the best battle of all time. I watched this fight like 10 times. Sequisha fought with honor and died with honor. Sequisha has earned my sub and follow also my respect.

[@FestivePump]

“ don’t make content out of cheating “ NICE double standard. 😂

[@messedupperfect9367]

As someone who has no idea what this event is or what is going on, hearing these accents come out of nowhere really caught me off guard, especially when soda is speaking in a sad tone LMAO

[@wooplaw1080]

It’s hardcore wow on a new wow server. Sodapoppin has a guild and decided to race split the entire guild so each race is a team and collects points for their race. The trolls have decided to speak like trolls in world of warcraft

[@messedupperfect9367]

@@wooplaw1080 Thank you, that makes a lot more sense lmao. I don't even play Wow, nor have I ever watched it, just super funny coming from my perspective.

[@connectus7907]

This was great content to watch, made me laugh multiple times. Especially the Trolls going hardcore. Sad that there was so much drama that unfolded around this, it was an awesome idea and I enjoyed it. Keep on going and have fun. To Sequisha: WE GO AGAIN!!! Best of luck with the grind.

[@JohnSmith-nr3sr]

Soda asking people to kill their char when he’s the one that buys gold. Lulz

[@pepperoni243]

Not this time, he made it so his viewers are the ones buying gold instead and funnel it through the weekly chest. Smart move, why would he risk a ban on this account

[@denlo9009]

Finally some good fucking "drama". I used to think i was above watching trash shows on television. Then I realized I just substitute trash reality tv for watching people get salty about MMOs.

[@xgetxsickx]

it's the evil mustache. just look at dr. disrespect and greekRMTwarrior

[@snakeappotomus]

If someone cheats we’re not making content out of it. Continues to make content out of first cheater 😂 streamers just can’t help themselves

[@GodotWait0]

Who is the guy constantly saying HA HA he has me dying lmao

[@Mavs8]

WoW is back

[@ChiiBomb]

i would agree had soda not allowed race swapping. he said playing the race you were assigned is part of the challenge, with the people in the same group... but he let people sway him to change races/teams. so now this just seems unfair since the guy clearly didn't mean to cheat and is taking it serious. soda said its bc he doesnt want ppl to accuse the guild of cheating or not following the rules yet on the day before it even started, he bended the rules lol

[@slippers8000]

Have their been more race swaps than Esfand? Seem like an interesting take that the race has the ability to banish people in their group.

[@ChiiBomb]

@ there was way more than Esfand. The whole point of the test was to have races/groups randomly selected and then soda just pussies out and allows people to switch. So this whole argument seems weird since he already broke a rule

[@remoredbeard]

How can you say that "the guy clearly didn't mean to cheat" when he had to purposely disable the guild add-on they all use, then when he realised he'd shown his mail on stream he went offline for 15 minutes and then magically comes back without the mail? Maybe he didn't actually mean to sell the items (and even that is highly questionable, given that the top sold item in his mailbox is a rare shield, not some mat he's trying to hold on to for crafting), but he clearly new that what he was doing wasn't allowed.

[@twerple]

"the guy clearly didn't mean to cheat" are you serious? It's been proven that the cheating was 100% deliberate. You wrote an entire paragraph and you don't even know what's going on.

[@ChiiBomb]

@ I know soda is being a hypocrite! And I know summit stood 10 toes down on his opinion, which was correct, while chance was being a bitch about his decision

[@krinord]

If you allow people to go over the limit even by a miniscule amount, people will keep pushing that limit further and further. If everyone was made aware of these rules and they cheat, womp womp I'm not gonna feel sorry

[@dunsen772]

All the undead should have came and showed 1 for all, all for 1 that would be legendary

[@warmanreaper]

The problem is that nobody was even close to Ziroji's level and gear (pre-raid bis). Even level 45-48s would've been pretty much fodder to the hunter there. Every single other story / outcome was statwalled out of existence because of this level 60 getting involved.

[@andyfibb]

gets to 40 and cheats LMAO

[@TheCaspercc]

What I see is: 1 guy breaking rules and soda telling us a promise and break it right after. If you cheat, we will not make content from it, you will simply be removed from guild. Very serious

[@Thornsworks]

I am loving these troll RP clips that come out lmao, dont have time to watch the full streams but Vei'jin is peak content

[@ByoUng-g4c]

this is like getting a write up at work lol

[@ShawnTheBear]

I love the whole race clan thing, really adds something

[@Squirtle0411]

“I really hope you make it out of this alive, I really do” bro soda is an actual psycho

[@TheBigdan217]

Keeping cheaters

[@supasnake8138]

Soda said from the beginning that things would be different and he is trying to capture new magic using an old ass game. He was 100% right in punishing Sequisha who knew exactly what he was doing.

[@ualredyknow5438]

Can someone explain in "Employed person terms"

[@luckygnome2746]

I don’t know anything about wow other than watching onlyfangs. That guy deserves to be perma kicked. He intentionally broke rules. Now that he was given a free pass, others will know that you can cheat and still be ok

[@FacelessOne01]

yep, cheating will happen more as people think they are better at hiding it and wont get caught opening mailbox on stream

[@slippers8000]

Well it's not a pure free pass, he was still killed and had to start over. Even then what's not to say the next cheater just gets Gkicked. The only rules are the ones set by the whims of their Gleader.

[@Infi1337]

I can get summits point, great idea with the arena until the screaming vtuber and Zeroji took over.

[@andrewmuccillo]

"We won't use cheaters for content"

[@Wenturi]

Someone talk to Zeroji. Dont htink guy is feeling well after getting so much hate last night. People were jumping into his stream and saying really nasty stuff. I know that he is streamer and he should be used to it, but all that hate is undeserved.

[@RenderMan1337]

Summit should snag a ban for sending people over to harass him.

[@omensoffate]

@@RenderMan1337for what

[@MalokaiXXI]

Im not sure why the guild integrity must be preserved from this terrible cheater, and yet they change whatever rules they want on the fly. No bank alts? No content for cheaters? LOL what integrity

[@Meh_zzz]

Exactly, its perfectly ok if they want to make content out of cheaters, but please stop talking about preserving the guild integrity all the time then. Integrity was already out of the equation the moment you decided on guild self found instead of actual ssf, it was only a matter of time

[@luuin]

Eh... should have been a firing squad with the 60 as the main gunmen. Putting on a fake gladitorial arena and saying "fight for 10 minutes to win your freedom" knowing full well the 60 was going to snipe him regardless of how many people Sequisha may or may not have killed is kinda stupid and got other people needlessly killed in the process. Not to mention the drama it has caused lol.

[@TheSko90]

That's the part that a lot of folks have an issue with. This punishment was sold as a possible redemption moment. Also they were heavily pressuring Zeroji to jump in and do it. The dude was legit stressed because even at 60 a mob like that could kill him easily.

[@slippers8000]

I mean "10 minutes to win your freedom" was never gone against. The Arena by definition allow everyone on the server to go in. That includes people of any level.

[@Varocka]

@@TheSko90 not really, anybody who plays wow knows that 10 mins in the arena is basically death if you dont get help

[@maerkstrongrock6984]

That was like 5 or 6 death for 1 cheater's mistake? Worth it.

[@hookemup9216]

This shit was funny and great event for a spur of the moment but holy chatters and some content creater Summit1g ruined this made it a big deal.

[@ygdra7007]

Ok, as much as I agree with everyone that Soda specify "HE'S NOT MAKING ANY CONTENT FROM ANY CHEATING STUFF, INSTA GKICK", That gurubashi arena sht was fucking awesome lol

[@Eazy_Bruh]

Idk why but that dudes mustache just makes me mad. It’s so big that it’s just kinda annoying lol Honestly soda should’ve just kicked him like he said he would to anyone cheating. (Little edit) I sound like such a hater. I’m really not. Dude honestly seems chill and I’ve known about him for years. I hardly watch twitch anymore.

[@HickieyFS]

I genuinely think most other people would've just been kicked, Sequisha being so likeable is the only thing that saved him for being Gkicked.

[@aggelikh.kyr1261]

That's a thicC stache right there

[@roniroukoz6040]

Those troll accents are hurting my toes, im cringing too much 😂

[@zao9256]

Yep had to watch it in mute.

[@envy8468]

Its painful listening to the troll accents

[@Troopertroll]

I always felt this way in school with kids cheating on tests. Like, if you don't even have integrity in a video game, how can you be expected to have any when it matters?

[@Arctoz]

What happend to the, "oh we wount make content of a the people cheating. They will just get kicked and thats that!" -Proceeds to make a 20 min video of them catching a cheater.. 10/10 sodapopping

[@vladimir4526]

Dont cry because a better solution has been found, its a bit ridiculous. Be glad he changed his decision, he was wrong before and now he did the right thing.

[@willthedingo]

The first 10 seconds of this kinda shows it wasn't just "for storage", or people were just buying the auctions to troll. Either way, he was getting gold delivered to him for a bunch of "Successful Auctions" whether it was intended or not. And against the rules. That said - was a great send off, above what was expected for breaking the rules, and people getting super salty over it really just need to understand that is all just part of the experience. Nobody should be babied through the experience, they should be treated like adults that will receive consequences for their actions if they try to game this fair and awesome system they have in place.

[@SheaChapman-fp9wx]

Nah that’s bullshit. Level 60 come in and ruin all the fun. Nah that’s a load of rubbish

[@Protopro91]

Its a punishment for cheating, do you understand that?

[@SheaChapman-fp9wx]

@ I understand he cheated then it was decided to go to the arena. Then it was a great show until that level 60 came and ruined it.

[@Protopro91]

@@SheaChapman-fp9wx Do you think only fair fights are allowed when his character should've been deleted instantly for cheating? It's not that type of game lol. You're watching the wrong content if you want to see level 35 vs level 35 PvP fair combat. It was an execution, deal with it. You weirdos losing your mind over a cheater being punished need to touch grass, especially summit

[@SheaChapman-fp9wx]

@ did you watch it? Was that a fair fight from the beginning? No. But it was a good watch. I’ve been playing the game 20 years, I know the game.

[@SheaChapman-fp9wx]

@ your saying we need to touch grass. You’re fighting me in the comments section for my opinion. 😂👌

[@user-in9mk4uk1r]

did the rogue helping him die? what a hero