We chat about the old days of YouTube | Colony Survival

[@MrDanieloneill]

There's nothing I love more than listening to KZbinrs talk about KZbin.

[@RoguePrince323]

53:16 This was me! I specifically downloaded Minecraft thinking I could play Shadow of Israphel the way Simon and Lewis experienced it and finding out that was not the way it worked was a huge wake up call haha

[@Nidhidki]

This makes me wish they would do like a directors commentary for SOI talking about all the behind the scenes build/story stuff

[@phaolo6]

I wonder how much they recall at this point tho..

[@danfr444]

watch some of the gmod build challenges they did with a yogscast series theme if you haven't. Tom and Ben get teamed and spend a while reminiscing about all the behind the scenes work they had to do for things. I think they talked about SOI in one

[@ToLazyToThink0]

@@danfr444 I'm not a member, so I may regret suggesting this, but they should make some comment tracks for member videos. Sounds like the sort of low effort content they're looking for.

[@Galoots]

Sijn did 2 much for this 2 happen sadly

[@skbirdandsiggi10]

@@danfr444 what's an example of one? Don't wanna watch any more modern Yogscast than I have to

[@Adam-fj9px]

Searched up the yogscast for the first time in years and the the newest video is you talking about back in the day, perfect timing

[@pastelparadox4661]

"I only did it one time, but I was surprised how easy it was." -Lewis on beating up a child

[@Erhannis]

I wonder if that now-adult watches the yogscast

[@panner11]

he always has the best cursed quotes

[@mastnes1]

I prefer it when you guys stream on youtube. These vods get recommended to me, unlike twitch, which help me since I'm usually asleep when the stream happens. The other thing is I've always had issues with the twitch player loading, even the vods.

[@adamcharman8726]

You know they have a vod channel yeah? Way better than twitch

[@mastnes1]

I do now

[@TheOnlyGhxst]

I've been watching you guys since like 2009 or some shit, and I originally found the channel because Minecraft had just came out and I bought the Alpha for it and was looking for Minecraft content, and you guys were one of the only channels who were uploading it at the time. And I've been here ever since lol

[@RichardCox0]

That's pretty much the same for me. There's something about these lads that keeps me hooked

[@HelenaOfDetroit]

Same here too! Wild how long ago that was. Hardly seems that long to me

[@vagabondlibrarian]

damn 2012 for me, u guys are the real ogs lmao

[@phaolo6]

I recall watching another youtuber playing MC first (Coe's Quest), but then I remained with the Yogs. I miss their old team, humor and creativity tho..

[@quantum5661]

ive been watching since the SOL days, and im *still* annoyed they havent continued it or killed it.

[@Boxland_]

It's always fun when people play games that makes them realize the benefits of inhumane working conditions.

[@aripocki]

Lewis just got to Bronze Age and there's no way he'll survive the next couple nights

[@Kristan103]

"Imagine a game that used your real life stats!" Thats... thats just real life Duncan D:

[@anathardayaldar]

I wouldn't last an hour as my true self. I play games to forget about my own pitiful reality.

[@slyngn7847]

Listen, if there was a way to repect the stats instantly or get some sort of buff that works and is instant, then I'll go for it. But as it stands, real life stats sucks especially when you have to go up against people who are better than you.

[@deaedbravo9005]

@@scarlet_phonavis6734 You have put a lot of thought into a comment underneath a comment, of whom few will read, from a video that got only 21k views. I wish more people did that.

[@Kerbsurfer]

I was browsing YT once upon a time and saw a video called something like "building a house using redstone". I'd never heard of Blue Xephos or Honeydew. I didn't even know what Minecraft was. But I watched them press a switch and a derpy, bugged, tiny little house popped out of the ground and I've been watching ever since.

[@Oscar-wp5cq]

the way Ravs pronounced the swedish donation was actually pretty good. also idk if anyone has translated it already but it said "You have been with Rythian for a long time now. Can you talk a little swedish?"

[@Erhannis]

31:00 Duncan's right, here - I think I read earlier that they've done cosmic ray tomography on pyramids - counted cosmic rays in a pyramid at a bunch of different places and used the info to reconstruct the volume of the pyramid and look for chambers. They probably've also done seismic scans or w/e yeah; that sounds plausible

[@Serastrasz]

There was something about the Egyptian Government blocking off research into the pyramids as much as possible, leading to such slow discoveries. They probably want to preserve the mystery for as long as they can.

[@dudekazoo]

I was originally a pyrion flax fan and watched the first civ game he played with the yogs. I then watched civ exclusively for about a year before checking out TTT. And I've been all in on yogs content ever since.

[@yudhisgs7027]

0:32 is when it starts

[@gamingnerdgirlz]

Thanks MVP

[@nzsmithsi]

Many Thanks😀

[@pacman22XD]

Duncan, you can get the statistics board and you can see your bottlenecks pretty clearly. You can also click the drop-down menu and get different stats than the standard inventory count

[@ColeCorvin]

I am honestly impressed with Ravs pronunciation. 29:25

[@QueenAlfred]

Jag med

[@TherianSK]

Thanks! You motivated me to play and finish this game again. Finished with 3k dudes, 1k dudes is really a requirement to move on with the game now, huge towers that were 20x16, and entire underground of my area was just farms, from ground to bedrock (or however deep the banner let me go really). Spend over 104 hours, some idling for resources. Some tips! Little way to cheese trading, in the morning place like 50 boxes that boosts your max points, sell and buy stuff, upgrades, remove boxes and your threat is non the wiser. Dont forget neat walls, just one high wall with one deep trench on the outside. Wiki is useless, its so outdated it almost made me cry. To me it was easier to place beds opposite to workers station, put crate between two stations and so on. Each group would have its own tool block and grocery block. To optimize I recommend to look up ideal farm sizes, like: Trees farm is 3x33, bees and chickens 3x3, berries 3x7, wheat, cotton, barley etc just whatever, so I used 10x10. This game relies on previous tech levels, so I would recommend to invest into everything heavily, like mining, water gathering, pottery etc. Fishing seemed like OP way to feed many people. Outposts you have to unlock as a tech, buy outpost flag in shops. There are 4 main biomes heat, mammoth tree, marshes and mountains. Compass and Astrolabe are used for navigation, colony and biomes respectively. Bookshelves and scroll shelves needs to be the "right" amount to replenish evenly with your scribes, it is in the tooltip, 10 per worker. I always put more because it didnt seem right. Biomes heat and marsh have specific dirt and grass, used to grow specific stuff, you can just bring it to your main base if you want to grow everything in one place. Builders are good for building endless towers or mines for farms or work. Diggers are also really useful. I always left some of the old time guards just because they are cheap and might one shot some weaker enemies so I dont waste too much of top level ammo. Traps i didnt really get too much, dudes are not willing to refill them if they are too far away, so only way is to make them point at the maze and have refill access. Getting steel started up is a bit of a pain, focus on upgrading to newer tech thats cheeper. Same goes for steel and broze parts. Gliders sucks, have fun.

[@TherianSK]

PS: Flooding! Watch out, water always floods downwards and levels, meaning if you have underground base and you hit water, you just flooded everything, every single block. No in game fix for this but if this happens, you can set first builder to fill your base with something that's not in it like leaves, and then have specialized digger to only mine those leaves.

[@howell2010]

I first was exposed to you guys while looking up Minecraft adventure maps (when I first heard Minecraft adventure maps were a thing) Specifically I found a map called "Calmere Nightmare" which was a lovecraftian adventure map. The video preview on it was a Lewis and Simon classic, which was also the origin of the "Professor Griswald" character and voice. Been here ever since.

[@Steamer2001]

I think it’s awesome that Lewis unironically wears a kimono occasionally

[@Steamer2001]

Duncan’s wish for a game where he can literally and legally beat up defenseless children as an himself is absolutely hilarious.

[@travisturner9118]

I remember the first mine craft episode with you and Simon giggling in a little dirt or wood shack while zombies walked around outside.

[@bmxdude1337]

Hearing the back story to SOI is so nice, puts a big ol smile on my face

[@stuchris]

I love how Lewis is all about these dinner colonists and then just doesn't get them and digs out his temple by hand anyway lol

[@kinnarawanderer]

When I first found Yogs, it was because I'd dipped into some Minecraft RP server- like 11 or 12 years ago. And they were like "All these new guys showing up because the Yogscast mentioned us, /sigh" and I was like "Who's that?" And they were all like "Oh f--- you, like you don't know Honeydew." And they all simply refused to believe I found them on my own. But then I found Yogs playing minecraft from them! Amazing

[@crazysupernovagaming3638]

If you don't mind me asking, do you remember what that server was called? The only yogscast server I remember was when the Yogscast had their own server for the fans, I can't remember if it's still around, but that was a few years ago.

[@BalthorYT]

@@crazysupernovagaming3638 Sounds like it wasn't a Yogs server, and in fact they were quite unhappy about being associated with it... Anyways, if you're looking for actual official/unofficial Yogs related servers you'll have better luck asking in one of the Discords or something like that

[@crazysupernovagaming3638]

@@BalthorYT Oh, no, I'm not actually looking for a server. I was just curious as to what it was called, as it might have been a server I played on at one point.

[@kinnarawanderer]

​@crazysupernovagaming3638 Oh hecc I can't really recall- I found it from a big list of RP servers I was dipping my toesies into over an afternoon a decade ago. Maybe 60-100 concurrent players? So it was moderately busy. All I know is that the Yogscast poked their heads in once upon a time. I ended up gravitating towards Lord of the Craft just 'cause it was so big. Played that for a few years then ultimately accepted that MC RP servers were always gonna have a bit of an infantile crowd.

[@googleaccount4471]

Started watching when I was in like year 2 and now I'm half way through uni, the yogs have been the most consistent thing in my life

[@LaWraWaN]

This was a very enjoyable episode, full of nostalgia and old stories. :)

[@Smikster]

Thanks for making content all of u back in 2010/2009 i will never forget

[@F3NRISBR0THER]

These hour long videos/streams are perfect. Love em

[@Gothgirlie]

53:20 I definitely downloaded survival island as a akid thinking the airship would turn up at some point and was so confused when it didn't

[@jordanhumm4752]

Yeah lewis had it spot on. I found them when they were dominating with shadow of israphel on youtube

[@Annaie1234]

I love these streams so much. Just chilling and chatting shit while the game is in the background This is the content I'm here for

[@DandyButSandy]

Nothing like yogs pining for a thousand dudes. This cup of klim is to you.

[@LexonyAble]

I think I created my youtube account to subscribe to the yogscast channel after seeing the first minecraft video, yeeears ago. That shit got me hooked on english content and really helped me with my english in general especially when I had that young soft, smooth brain ready to consume knowledge. Without the yogs idk if my english would be on such a good level as it is today. Thanks mom for teaching me, and thanks Simone and Lulu for keeping me entertained. edit: I just checked, I created my account exactly 7 days after the 'Minecraft - Part 1: How to Survive the First Night' dropped.

[@incredelman11]

First Yogscast video I ever watched was Minecraft Golf with DaveChaos! Then I found their main Minecraft series and I’ve been hooked ever since.

[@Spud497]

Do we think Lewis will notice the lake near his base and tell Ravs he didn't need to dig the klim trench?

[@eleanorcollins6225]

I'm loving these x

[@GretchenDawntreader]

I think members like members content that lets you see your favorite streamers when they are relaxing and just enjoying life. Not working hard to perform entertainingly. Like...everyone going out to a pub. That would be good members only content. It specifically does not have to be the "working hard" stuff. Lewis sounds like he thinks it needs to be "working extra hard" but if the best stuff is being seen by a small audience, how is that a win. Some of the best stuff of JingleJam is just someone going around the office with a go-pro chatting. We want to see the PEOPLE behind the PERFORMANCE. Well speaking for myself at least.

[@roopot]

I wish they had replay chat turned on

[@arrayofemotions]

It's so funny how Lewis keeps trying to bring back the conversation to early KZbin throughout this. Serious old man vibes.

[@Mikemih]

just had the time to start to watch the series, this episode was so on point, loved it.

[@adroxisentertainment]

I used to watch you guys all the time some of my best childhood memories were watching your different series with my best friend.

[@nathanhails5901]

I started watching when Lewis and Simon were touring a to scale build of The Enterprise in Minecraft.

[@edholmes8726]

I can already see the server being left on and Lewis not having any Steves when they return…

[@danielnewman1589]

I was one of those kids who expected those NPC stories from Minecraft! 😂

[@j-mc2144]

Im happy live chat has been kept this time around

[@Voice_of_p]

Iam really happy to See you here.

[@TheConnoroth]

Yes, twilight imperium is my fav board game!!

[@shanadir]

I like that there is a small lake right next to Lewis mountain...

[@Serastrasz]

Isn't that just a sandpit?

[@WumboJumbo96]

I find Lewis's lack of knowledge on Shadow of Israphel lore disturbing. I know it was a long time ago but wasn't that series his baby back in the day?

[@GriffGraff]

Ive made so many civilizations since the first time you guys showcased this game years ago. Really love the little updates they've been implementing since then! Shame to hear about there kitty though :(

[@mikef5951]

Id never heard of the eye of the spider parody till Ravs mentioned it It's got Israphel in it

[@RandomGuyWhoComments.]

I wish they put more IRL videos on the main channel

[@LexonyAble]

I was like 13 and for some time I did think SOI is real.. I just didn't question it, I was just immersed in the series.

[@gamingnerdgirlz]

9:57 First Video i sow of You'll was "Minecraft - Part 2: Spending the Night in Simon's Shack" 12 Years ago. Been subscribed ever Sense. 24:03 DUNCAN 3 or 8 chickens with TANNER can make the Animal Corpse, you must have TANNER, Animal Corpse and Chicken Farmer Science Researched OUT.

[@Zeltster]

that dkp system is what destiny 2 is doing now and i really like it

[@Oduunich]

First found Yogs when searching for information on this new Voltz pack & came across some idiots mining copper 2 weeks prior.

[@Oduunich]

Also, pretty sure the original stickman fighting video was on Newgrounds & called XiaoXiao. Could be wrong on the name, but should be close.

[@null_focus5512]

Hi Duncan. I went to that college- the one that made Dig-N-Rig? It's called DigiPen University and *no* the professors do not come up with the innovative designs of student made games. We are responsible for the design and the programming and the art ourselves as students. That's what we're there to learn. At best professors say shit like "Don't make grappling hooks, they're harder than you think". Part of what your game projects are graded on is how innovative and creative they are. And I am genuinely offended by the suggestion that my games are not my ideas.

[@danielgmaynard]

Down a rabbit hole with your content and just searched diggy diggy hole..... This is going to be one of my work mantras... probably when packing a wound. diggy diggy hole...

[@Whisdom]

i saw SOI when I was 22 and at first thought it was legit. I've played text based games that modifies its response depending what you typed. Figured this was the next stage of evolution for text based games

[@thegooeymanschannel7128]

I don’t think it’s really that their entire audience was kids, it’s just that kids are the most likely to “fan out” and show up to an event like Minecon to meet their favorite KZbinr. I’m almost 30 and I still enjoy watching their videos, but I certainly wouldn’t travel across the country to go see them in person now. However, 13-15 year old me that discovered their channel certainly would have in a heartbeat if I had had the ability to.

[@EzekielHateable]

Great video as always. I love this series, just the 3 of them chilling and talking shit. lol

[@arbruh]

29:20 he's trying the knock thing again hoping Lewis gets it this time

[@frankiecedeno3724]

I was first exposed to you guys at 2021 Jingle Jam! Fun stuff so far.

[@swervo9033]

Relaxing convo 🎉

[@Techstriker1]

The theme of Lewis fighting small children continues 😆

[@datguy6101]

Lewis is the best

[@klaxoncow]

"The Village People... very litigious" - Lewis, 2023 He's not wrong. But it's just a funny sentence to hear someone say out loud.

[@joshwilson9981]

Duncan is right about Ben's hundredth win!!

[@theodoreroosevelt1168]

Loved this stream. It is a shame I missed it.

[@GretchenDawntreader]

I doubt they are going to use ground penetrating radar by setting off shockwaves through the pyramid, for one thing it's a mountain of enormous stone blocks, and you wouldn't want to collapse or damage something precious.

[@CityState_of_Valletta]

Never really watched this game and know nothing of it but this was nice. At least now I know why this game always has weird mazes in it- zombles come at night.

[@ironroundhousegaming2386]

say what you will about youtube parodies but fallen kingdom still slaps

[@cameronfeusi7734]

Lewis the pusher makes a return as Bully Brindley

[@jessecox4581]

I remember telling people that Minecraft had intelligent NPCs and pre-built towns based on watching early Yogscast🤦‍♂️

[@emilyc8958]

Is there an easy way to know the order of these streams?

[@comradeamerican4393]

Duncan be like raids before grades

[@RubelliteFae]

Honestly, I'm pretty sure the way YT & Twitch copyright strike isn't legal, but who has the money to take them/record labels to court?

[@BalthorYT]

Don't quote me on this, but as far as I remember, content sharing sites like YT, Twitch, social networks, file sharing/downloading sites, etc., work on a 'safe harbor' regime. So essentially, the sites aren't directly responsible for the content that users upload to it - so the site doesn't immediately get DMCA'd to death - but in order to maintain this 'safe harbor' status they have to police the content uploaded to the site and obey any takedown requests by copyright holders. Generally, even though they _should_ honor their users and analyze every case before taking action to protect legitimate stuff from getting struck, they just roll over and take stuff down without question, and at best it's up to the user to fight it afterwards - with all risk usually pinned on them. This behavior is shitty, but not entirely inexcusable - it's a byproduct of the draconic, predatory and profit-driven DMCA laws and standards: if those got changed (and they should!) then the sites would be able to safely act in more reasonable ways. Assuming they'd want to, of course... If you have some time to spare, Tom Scott did a few videos on the subject and he's far better at explaining the whole thing and the reasons & context behind it - go check it out if this is something that interests you

[@RubelliteFae]

@@BalthorYT Yeah, that's intuitive. It's just that they COULD pay enough staff to actually look into cases before demonetizing users. Alphabet, et al. are actively widening the gap between the wealthy and the little guys. Individual content creators already do more work than large studios (since most do their own filming, sound, editing, thumbnails, etc depending on the genre) for less money. Even when we try to do everything the way they say we have to (regardless of legal code), we get copyright struck by the very agency we purchased worldwide commercial usage rights from. It's another demonstration of how little they (all) care for users, their cattle. And it's all so normalized... I'm concerned for the next generations

[@BalthorYT]

@@RubelliteFae Exactly what I'm thinking. In a way, the draconian DMCA laws benefit them and serve as justification for their poor treatment of their users whenever copyright is involved - the moment it isn't though, it's always very telling when they still treat them poorly. So long as the same big groups & lobbies are in power, things will only get worse for anyone who doesn't create stuff that directly benefits or very closely aligns with their corporate interests. In the end, it's the same old story: profit over people. Copyright or not, these platforms only really care about things that bring in money, and so users, creators, artists, all are secondary to generating maximum revenue. I'd hope that newer generations learn to avoid them altogether, and either make new sites and networks for content sharing that aren't profit-driven or find completely new ways - but I know it's wishful thinking. People get hooked in younger and younger now, with Instagram and Tiktok being the most popular platforms among them, and from what I've seen, also some of the worst platforms for many reasons. Let's hope the tide turns in some way, sooner rather than later. Worst comes to worst, there's a glimmer of hope that these platforms will get bad to the point they implode or self-cannibalize, and this ends up prompting a change and the rise of newer, better places...

[@RubelliteFae]

@@BalthorYT I suppose in the end, if you want total creative freedom, the best best is to sacrifice audience size and go to some small platform they haven't dug their claws into yet. 😔 "and either make new sites and networks for content sharing that aren't profit-driven or find completely new ways" Lol, same thought. I wrote the above before finishing reading your post 😄 I had hopes for DTube. All the videos there are encoded onto a multi-hosted digital ledger ("blockchain"), so nothing can truly get taken down. Unfortunately since it's crypto-adjacent most of the content I've seen there is ... out there. Not necessarily all wrong, just... fringe. "People get hooked in younger and younger now" Exactly. By the time they are agreeing to give all their information to China, they aren't even old enough to understand the significance (not that giving it all to private enterprises is better, IMO, but I think there's pretty widespread agreement about autocracy over here). "Let's hope the tide turns in some way, sooner rather than later." IDK if hope is enough. We need to band together. There's more of us than them. We used to say "vote with your dollars." Now we need to teach, "In an attention economy, vote with your attention. Oh and install ad & tracking blockers." ...I say in KZbin comments. It tough to change a habit, even when you know it's harmful

[@allycat871]

Awe I really miss watching you guys do minecraft. I think I've watched every Lewis and Simon MC vids 😭

[@kills9238]

Loved it !

[@elloydsart]

Holy hell. Just looked at that moon fall trailer and that’s def ravs

[@TheOnlyOrk]

this is good podcast listening

[@Kowzorz]

[@carlsson2919]

Holy shit Ravs swedish was actually very very good xD

[@joshconfer209]

Watched the moon fall trailer. Legit ravs' way to serious brother vibes 😂

[@gerudah]

i discovered the yogscast becuase i had watched all of seananners minecraft vids and he was taking ages to upload the next one and my mate said "check these guys out"

[@squegeemcgee2403]

If epidemic sound did that to me I would stop paying for their stuff asap

[@TheBugB]

I love it

[@divamon5602]

WOOOOO!

[@gruntslayer3524]

I think I could hear maybe 10% of what Duncan said

[@MarkGlowInTheDark]

I think i discovered the Yogscast by watching The Spiffing Brit

[@veeshan222]

Sooo who wants to tell lewis thats there builder NPC so they could oif built his myan pyramid for him :P he just had to tech up a little bit further. Duncan if your doing it right you dont need a maze :P i had a single bridge into my island base and never had an issue with them getting across it and doesnt take to many guys to defend either (also having muiltipul extrances actualy makes it easier to defend cause when u have a single entrance they clump up and push through together instead of staggering in dieing one by one.

[@agile52]

200 dkp is a chromatic tempered sword or Maladath

[@RandomGuyWhoComments.]

I remember looking up herobrine sightings on KZbin like if they were ghost encounters or something and seeing kids freak out that they saw herobrine😆

[@coling.4476]

Feels like Duncans view and sound are not aligned. Like the audio is behind the video. Very confusing

[@christianavalos207]

They talking about Pivot Animator

[@Rath_9]

Twilight imperium god that is a great game

[@Half_Finis]

back in the day counter?

[@redpanda6164]

been here since shadow of israphel

[@lauraadams4496]

I just imagine the kid lewis beat up sends a dono in.