“We Fly The Flag Of Being A Morally Superior Place” | Shamima Begum Appeal Rejected

Shamima Begum's legal team has vowed to "keep fighting" after the 24-year-old lost her appeal against the removal of her British citizenship at the Court of Appeal.
Last year, her initial appeal against the citizenship revocation on national security grounds was unsuccessful at the Special Immigration Appeals Commission (SIAC).
On February 23, the Court of Appeal unanimously rejected Begum's attempt to overturn the SIAC decision.
Ian Collins discusses her case with political commentator Emma Revell.
#news #politics #shamima #uk #government #talktv #talkradio

[@johndean1634]

No she can rot where she is. Now stop dragging this on and on in court.

[@leakoe3797]

John. I agree She made her decision - she knew the decision she made..

[@sababilkiss3771]

What had she done to you,? Also what about the British and isreali dual nationality idf going to Palestine to commit genocide and returning to uk? Why aren't they put in prison to rot? Why are they treated like heroes? Sick society uk.

[@sababilkiss3771]

Who recruited her and groomed her in the first place. CI A they used route through Turkey there was a channel 4 news on this and agents caught in Turkey. Time to wise up. Who controls Britain, just look at what mp are saying about genocide in Palestine they support zionists. Yes it's the isreali lobby.

[@kelsogirl562]

Her lawyers must be absolutely delighted with today's decision because that means 5 more years of legal fees for them paid for by the British taxpayer.

[@musicbruv]

She is costing us money even though she is not a British citizen, and not in this country.

[@marymcsoley4071]

Exactly. How wrong is this 😠

[@zakariahsgamingchannel9661]

@musicbruv nor are the eukrainians or the Israelis and they're getting our tax while the British citizens are sleeping on the streets. You don't seem.. or dare to mention that do you ?? Nahh you might lose your benefits 🤣

[@zakariahsgamingchannel9661]

Israel Ukraine all costing alot more money while the British sleep on the streets. shout about that If you really care about tax.. which you've probably never paid while being on benefits all ya lives. If she was white English she'd be a victim of grooming with the sympathy of the media no doubt. And yourselves. Bring her back and trial and punish her here if guilty..or compensation if she's a victim of grooming like the rest of the victims of grooming

[@ahmedelsadat2465]

She born in England. And this is very wrong

[@vordman]

She isn't stateless. She's a member of the Islamic State. She quite openly joined it. Let them take care of her.

[@geekylove3603]

Just as long as you don't complain about children being too young for puberty blockers and graphic books at school. Or kids being.....in Rotherham and Oxford.

[@lewisjnewmanify]

what the hell does that have to with anything here? @@geekylove3603

[@lfcmike12]

​@@geekylove3603People are free to complain about what ever they want. Oh wait, no we're not.

[@realeyes212]

​@@geekylove3603Is this your standard comment? Copy & paste, why don't you? Is this your effort at what you believe staying relevant or being relevant? How is your inane comment even closely related to this topic? Why are these people unhappy in their own country... then migrate to other countries - and they're still unhappy? Do some travelling, become culturally aware and educate yourself. There's more to life than puberty blockers and kids in Oxford & Rotherham.

[@geekylove3603]

@lfcmike12 So you have never complained about anything in your life? Ok mate...

[@davidmorgan1963]

Stop financing her legal costs.

[@aliceglado]

Nope. Bring her back.

[@Marijalondon]

I actually find it scandalous that we are British taxpayers are funding this nonsense!!

[@azillliasmith2734]

@@alicegladowhy don't you go over there and take her some stuff.... and stay there yourself....

[@christopherlawledge9093]

Jerk ​@@aliceglado

[@susanashton4098]

@@aliceglado Please explain why you are adamant that she should be brought back? She knew exactly what she was doing, even at 15, who she married and has shown no remorse for her deeds, or those of her husband, nor even, dare I say, over the fate of the children she had. What would be the purpose of allowing her back into this country, other than attending court and, possibly, spending some jail time, until she'd then be free to do whatever she wishes. For all we know, she may still be involved with the evil she hooked up with and could be a security risk to innocent people in this country that she so easily trashed.

[@MerryOlSoulGigglesmith]

No appeal because she's not welcome here. Stay out.

[@RedMii-et4wd]

Lol if she was your daughter you'd be crying about the fact she was groomed whilst underage

[@aliceglado]

She MUST be allowed back.

[@azillliasmith2734]

@@alicegladomust not...

[@jaid2383]

We should ship you off and let her back in to stand for trial but as a child and not an adult. Seriously man we have enough morons as it is here so off you go.

[@geekylove3603]

Just as long as you don't complain about children being too young for puberty blockers and graphic books at school. Or kids being.....in Rotherham and Oxford.

[@lizroberts1569]

She didn’t want to be British, at any time until she was taken into custody. If Islamic state were still active in Syria she wouldn’t be interested in returning. I don’t think we think we’re morally superior, and we have no responsibility to her in my view.

[@MrPhantom1961]

She went there, let her rot there.

[@nigelbase1196]

Brilliant decision 👏

[@BarryR.]

The same people who say she was too young at 15 think 10 yr old can take puberty blockers without parents consent

[@AeSyrNation]

Spot on.

[@Ralpheo]

Trans children aren't being groomed and manipulated though are they. If Shamina was white British the narrative would be very different. Then the press and public would say she was brainwashed and to bring her home

[@geekylove3603]

Just as long as you don't complain about children being too young for puberty blockers and graphic books at school. Or kids being.....in Rotherham and Oxford.

[@lewisjnewmanify]

so you think 10 year olds are old enough for that? nice dissonance bro

[@kelsogirl562]

She had the nouse to use her sister's passport to get her over several borders. How many 15 year olds do you know who could do that? It would take some nerve and considerable acting skills which we've since seen in her pretending to be an innocent victim after being unphased by seeing beheaded people's skulls in a bucket.

[@daveyr7454]

Watch everyone’s’ lips Ian Collins….. WE DON’T WANT HER BACK.

[@forkcgg9441]

Well done Great Britain! For once standing up to traitors.

[@jaid2383]

I hope to see you protesting to have all children under the age of 16 being sent to prison the same way we do with adults. She was a fucking child who was brainwashed. And let's be honest; if a foreign country spent 20yrs bombing white people you'd possibly be tricked into doing something similar to her. And if I'm wrong about that then you're a little pussy so get away from the keyboard you racist dummy.

[@RedMii-et4wd]

Most of the recent and current politicians are traitors. It's a shame most Brits are too thick to realise

[@mrror8933]

She's not a traitor, she's true to herself...

[@RedMii-et4wd]

@@mrror8933 she's only true to Israels wants and needs.

[@mrror8933]

@@RedMii-et4wd 🤡

[@bobotett4320]

Great decision, she made her bed and has to lie in it

[@tenniskinsella7768]

She stuck up for beheading if I remember correctly

[@robinfereday6562]

Your right she did

[@rayboish]

To me this is about sending the correct message to people who think they can trample on our values and culture.

[@Zairahx]

What about the dual israeli citizen who go to gaA to commit massacres and kill people but its OK for them to come back yeah??? Fucking double.standarda.

[@user-lq6vu3qs7s]

I'm more concerned about the dinghy loads of men who pile into the country every day,who are they?

[@Alan316100]

I'd love to know who is paying these lawyers, I hope it isn't the tax payer!

[@susanashton4098]

Of course it is ❤us, the taxpayer, that's paying. Her lawyers will keep on fighting ad nauseam. Probably not because they believe she should return here but for the money they're receiving from her case. Imo, legal aid should apply only to people living in this country, which she doesn't.

[@seasidedreaming]

It is the tax payers that's paying it, how is her family funding it? Legal aid. That now needs to stop.

[@georgeroybooth3335]

Probably the uk media.

[@gildaarnold-white2762]

It is the British tax payer

[@christinecraig7473]

​@@WowdIst you are right. I had to fight on my own with no advice apart from online and no technology apart from my mobile phone..

[@sukanjanachuaiprasit5199]

I don’t think she should allowed to be back to the UK. She knew was she was doing at that time.

[@user-eg5yl9vn9i]

That`s the way all these proud Islamist preachers should be treated! All hail the Britain!

[@kelsogirl562]

If she was allowed back into the UK she'd immediately be recruited by another Islamist group. She'd be fair game to them.

[@steveg7718]

Cut the crap.... Go over their and live with her...lol

[@andrewbaumann2661]

*there

[@D33b4ll]

...*

[@shelleyscloud3651]

I. DON’T. CARE!! Hear me? I’m done with the emotional manipulation, the bleeding hearts & the valorisation of ‘compassion’ as mankind’s greatest value whilst all around everything turns to sh!t. Sh!t, I add, created by those exact same ones we’re told to open our hearts, country & charity to! I’M DONE! I DON’T CARE ANYMORE! The tap is off, the door is closed, my head has rightly taken control of my heart. ENOUGH!!

[@Marijalondon]

Best comment, great attitude..we are finally waking up!

[@RuneRelic]

Regardless of Bangladesh or UK. She chose to leave and joint the Islamic State and take up arms agasint the UK as an enemy of the state. Therefore, she became a citizen of that Islamic state, by her own free will and ceased to be our responsibility at that point. She did not go on holiday and become a prisoner. She found a partner and had children while a member of Daesh...that died as a consequence of her free will. Becoming an enemy of the UK by migrating to a foreign state at war with us, was her choice.....not ours.

[@kelsogirl562]

It speaks volumes that Bangladesh will not take her and I seem to remember them saying she'd be put to death if she landed on their soil though I'm happy to be corrected on that if necessary.

[@thefiestaguy8831]

The other issue with that is that IS is NOT a state, it's not a country or a state, it's a militant group who commit barbaric acts. It would be akin to calling "Muslims" a "state".

[@RuneRelic]

@@thefiestaguy8831 Well that the difference between a state religion and a world religion I guess. One has cultural boundaries, one does not.

[@Ravenuk]

Stop allowing appeals ffs

[@kelsogirl562]

If she wants to appeal it further then SHE should be paying for it. If she doesn't have the money then tough luck. It's the same for the rest of us.

[@watfordtripod]

Enjoy your tent life😂😂😂😂😂

[@chazsach6594]

Her legal team will already be preparing another appeal. At the taxpayers expense of course.

[@kelsogirl562]

Indeed - they'll be delighted with today's verdict and will be rubbing there hands at the prospect of another 5 years of guaranteed legal fees all paid for by the British taxpayer.

[@SCD-BOY]

Cant believe we're still talking about her!

[@andrewmacgregor6384]

Pathetic how this is even being spoken about!

[@peterdefreitas5936]

What you have not took in to account is this government has already stated just how Dangerous she is. The government have also stated that due to security reasons they cannot tell the Public to much . Please Leave her exactly where she is because if she gets her foot in the door here she will immediately have a child so she cannot be removed again. She is DANGEROUS 🎯😡

[@RedMii-et4wd]

What you have not taken into account is the fact the government consistently lies to its peasant population

[@asadmohammed7102]

Do you believe eveythjng the government tells you…

[@momoisse9773]

Can she just disappear? Go away!

[@BeerStens]

Back here facing trial. Yes, if we'd still got the death penalty for treason .

[@cokeheadsneverdie]

She must have been a right piece of work, judges will do almost anything to protect islamists

[@robertgowling191]

This person made her choice and she was not groomed to make it. If it was where is the evidence? She must not come back to the UK.....No not come back to the UK...

[@HM28098]

Agreed . i wouldn't want her living next door , she always looks and sounds like she's ready for a fight. ..

[@Marijalondon]

@@HM28098 She is dumb and sociopathic, empty vessel.

[@SanBan-pn7vi]

How can someone you’ve never met look AND sound like they’re ready for a fight?? LOL Are you also someone that crosses the road when someone too tall is coming up behind you? Grow up.

[@geekylove3603]

Just as long as you don't complain about children being too young for puberty blockers and graphic books at school. Or kids being.....in Rotherham and Oxford.

[@randombabe99]

She was, by someone who worked for the UK/canada. He then took her from Turkey to Syria.

[@gwynnethhossain7577]

We got enough boat people

[@diversk]

She was born here.

[@mrror8933]

​@@diverskso?????

[@Val-M.]

Even when there is nothing really left to do, our lawyers are there to drag matters out !

[@joycegibbs5267]

this country is run on lawyers. Wokeness will keep making lawyers a fortune.

[@olah22]

Very nice decision 🎉🎉

[@connieroberts5368]

Sanity reigns at last - and yet we have umpteen thousands of potentially dangerous immigrants here who get to wander free.

[@recreationalmancunian]

When she was on GMTv she said she still stands by the Manchester bomb. Then from the camp she had makeup an a baseball cap on an wants to come home 😂😂😂 let her in just like the Trojan horse.

[@johncurrie6693]

She chose where her loyalty lies. Good luck to her.

[@mk-ld8ih]

Then why the hell are baby k1llerz who travel to Israel allowed to come back into the UK? They're literally teror1stz that are allowed return. Madness. Keep them filthy zios out

[@evolassunglasses4673]

"Quick reminder that there is no upper limit to diversity. You'll just be endlessly told things are too White until you wake up one day to something between Mogadishu and Karachi". ~ Andrew Joyce Occidental Observer

[@m-zg8ix]

Shes a murderer what can you say

[@diversk]

Then let her be tried in a court of law here

[@mrror8933]

​@@diverskwhy?????

[@diversk]

@@mrror8933it’s called democracy. Can’t even believe I need to answer this!

[@mrror8933]

@diversk she didn't commit her crimes in the UK, so it doesn't apply. Democracy: ask the British public if they want her back in the UK. The answer is no.

[@CSBourne]

Ian seems to think that we can defeat our existential enemies with moral superiority. They know better than that, and operate accordingly.

[@asadmohammed7102]

You’re paranoia has the better of you.. nobody is your enemy now go back to your 9-5

[@TomTomicMic]

Russia does what it likes, China does what it likes, Iran does what it likes, Islamic terrorists do what they like, but we have our hands tied and pay the bill, that's a load of barnacles, she may have been young when she left, but she has not changed her views and she's not so young now, all like her, and I mean all, should be kept out, any illegal immigrants who transgress in the UK should suffer the same fate, only lefties stick up for them and they don't want to pay and they will be last to defend this country so they should have little say!?!

[@TomTomicMic]

​@@asadmohammed7102The enemy of the UK is the ones who do not support its values, like the "Palestine" supporters, who really are Hamas supporters intimidating Jews in London, they all should be deported and citizenship taken away, even if they are "British"!?!

[@CSBourne]

@@asadmohammed7102 Taqiyya.

[@user-iu9xp4tl2r]

If people don't understand that she would become a ralling point for the sick . In my opinion her parents should have been deported..

[@israelizzyyarrashamiaak766]

The protesters are no different than she is. She just had a chance to act and they’ve not yet had that chance. Her mind is their mind.

[@dodadidodadi]

All that taxpayers money wasted .. disgusting

[@jennam8401]

We haven't been told what the security reasons are, this has now been examined multiple times and whatever the security reasons are must be very valid. This is not for us to now keep debating 'morals' etc when we don't know how severe the reasons are. Stop having appeals now.

[@georgegray6267]

And why would she be less of a security threat here,than Syria? Please explain that one too me!!??? 🤔🤔🤔

[@mrror8933]

It's a lie that she was never a Bangladeshi citizen.

[@Bonefish-me4gm]

They say she was groomed to join the enemy because she was 15, but the reality was that she never tried to come back until her team started losing. Anyway, Starmer wants to give 16 year old's the vote (a cynical move worthy of Pol Pot or H Youth) , so she was voluntarily out there as an "adult," once she became 16. Presumably, Starmer wants 16 year olds to be allowed to drink alcohol, drive, be tried and sentenced as an adult and go to adult HMP to serve a sentence, too... I guess it'd free up space in the youth detention centres.

[@crishill6458]

Personally I think she is where she should be, she may well have been groomed at 15, definitely wouldn't have been able to just leave, she would pose a major security threat so leave her there, on voting rights I think if you pay tax you should be able to vote for the policies and party you want, no vote no tax is how I see it

[@BudgetBilliionareHideaway]

Leave her to bake in the desert stop spending money on islamic trash

[@tayibahussain]

Is the issue not that she is dangerous. If she is in syria or wherever she is roaming free she should be in prison.

[@user-cy7dt4rt7p]

15 is too old to be groomed .....Her sort, and their founder, start on girls around 10 years old.

[@chrisdouglas1158]

​@@tayibahussaincool she should be in a prison in Syria then

[@realeyes212]

Is treason a moral issue?

[@jessiegleaves9037]

She should NEVER be allowed back!!

[@TheForkhandles]

Why do these people think that British courts should try people fro crimes committed outside the jurisdiction of those courts?

[@jonnycarrick7552]

That Bagum is a traitor to the country who gave her a home

[@Vixter1945]

The Faking It special on her was very telling - absolutely oozing duping delight whilst she was being interviewed and lying her head off. There's 15 year old girls and there's 15 year old girls...she was quite capable of making her decision and is / was a wrongun so no excuses should be made for her actions, she's responsible. How many opportunities did the young woman in the video have to say British citizenship and couldn't say it properly once, was like watching Tommy Cooper being drunk 🙈😂

[@andrewwright6893]

There should be no legal aid whatsoever.

[@EldenRingBuildsArchive]

That’s nice, but until you do this ONLY to people that criticise Israel, the UK will fall. It’s so bad that “British” Indians have to speak up about the immigration issue

[@mrror8933]

What????? Criticising Israel has become a national sport in the UK.

[@deanlowdon8381]

The Israeli government are genocidal war criminals, that’s just a fact at this point.

[@obe1withtheforce785]

Pretty sure people have been criticizing Isreal since Diana. Good luck with that and maintaining the guise of being 'morally superior' when you support mass murder, forced starvation and a number of other things I assume you wouldn't want done to you and yours. Rather disgusting of you to continue to treat people who have probably done more for your country than you ever will as second class or illegitimate members of society. Though I guess that's your self proclaimed superiority on show again.

[@mk-ld8ih]

​@mrror8933 nah Israel the 'victim' seem to censor and punish whoever criticises them with the help of the UK government

[@Watch_The_Galaxy_Burn]

I dont think it would be a good idea bringing her back. She has painted a massive target on her back by outraging the whole population. Sooo for her own well being i think she would be safer staying were she is.

[@rogerslade8281]

Who pays her legal fees

[@darrenporter1850]

The crimes were done out of the UK. So the UK trial is not possible.

[@vanhooler358]

Made my day, now we have to get the rest out.

[@HM28098]

yep

[@viv8117]

Me too

[@MadMax-oy4um]

Spot on my friend get the all out

[@tayibahussain]

who is the rest of them?

[@YouPube_X]

All non whites?

[@costicamiron1127]

She should stay in there we’re she’s gone. Solicitor are greedy just for the taxpayers money. What a UK 🇬🇧 has become

[@musicbruv]

Solicitors are scum.

[@minash6066]

Those who risk Britain should pay the prize

[@andywhite2823]

How is she paying for lawyers?

[@rodneymarsden3003]

She had duel citizenship so taking away her British citizenship was fair enough. Too much British money has already been spent on her.

[@thomaslatth665]

What use will "moral superiority" be, once you fall as a nation ?? Right or wrong is not predicated on morality.

[@facehugger3]

Where is she getting the money from for all these appeals and legal cases?I hope the British government and by extension the british taxpayer isn't paying for all these cases against themselves.

[@user-tu5ej5lg2c]

A judge that wokeness hasn't screwed up. Lets enjoy it.

[@loopydaloo7425]

good news....but sadly am sure it will be short-lived. Can apply to take case to superior court - and then European Human Rights Court (EHRC)- and that is where she very likely will win her case. The UK really must hurry up and leave the EHRC.

[@diversk]

No it shouldn’t ? Human rights protects us all

[@loopydaloo7425]

@@diverskindeed HR protects us. IMO we do not need EHRC cos we can do the HR job ourselves, we do not need European inteference.

[@leakoe3797]

Yes we fly OUR FLAG our Union jack Our answer to the extremists. & Islamphobia.

[@CycloneCyd]

She can rot in whatever camp she is in.

[@j.e.7028]

That the last time she gets an appeal.Its DONE

[@simplyphil.photography164]

GB needs to remove further funding; 5 million plus so far, no more Tax payers money.

[@SimonNoina]

Apparently £5 million of legal aid costs paid for by British taxpayers? - nice - genuine two fingers to the UK taxpayer

[@jameshara8994]

Morally Superior？Laughable！Laugh out loud!😂😂😂

[@heycidskyja4668]

Is it laughable? Really?

[@lindamccann3880]

She lived in a democracy here and it didn’t make her “morally superior”, then or now. Nonsense for this man to try and correlate the two terms!

[@lindamccann3880]

So, if finally ousted: no longer British, no more Legal Aid from British Taxpayers? It all stops NOW.

[@jezfield8547]

Well done. KEEP IT OUT. until it faces trial.

[@bigstu5413]

If it goes any further her family should have to pay her fees

[@garyoneill545]

The Fifth Column is already here.And the Authority's are going along with it.

[@raymondgravelle3931]

Why isn't she with her husband? If he is still alive?

[@garymasters1115]

She's not british

[@sggibson62]

If she’s stateless ie nothing to do with us why have we paid £5,000,000 up to now on her appeal fees ? .

[@GarryCarr56]

Well oh dear what a shame never mind 😅😅

[@derekearles9844]

Tell her to go and live with her boyfriend in europe or has he had his way with her and now distanced himself from her ?

[@theevildrjelly4626]

Why does she want to come back. What motive has she got

[@MickGreen-js4pr]

Keep the Rat out.

[@davesgreenr33]

if she ever comes back it just opens the door for thousands more to follow. not worth the risk

[@tmc1054]

She was 15, a child. Do people forget that?

[@TheAArmstrong]

Our tolerance is not indefinite.

[@sbeasley1785]

She wants to be given benefits and of course would be given housing…regardless of the more deserving British people.

[@maureenball6733]

No. Keep her out. If she was put on trial in the UK she'd barely see prison or not at all. Don't want her here. She ran off from a safe and comfortable home to join killers. Her choice.

[@mistybehaviours]

I hate the argument that she is stateless, she left the U.K. to join the Islamic state, she even married a Man from the Islamic state, it just happened that it got destroyed, but that was the last state she belonged to.

[@diversk]

She was 15 years old

[@mrror8933]

​@@diverskso????

[@diversk]

@@mrror8933she was 15; a minor

[@mrror8933]

@diversk and??? You are extremely naive. Just parroting bleeding heart leftist claptrap.

[@mrror8933]

@@diversk she was old enough. The killers of Jamie Bulger were 11, they knew what they were doing.

[@vatsmith8759]

Surely all she needs to get UK citizenship is to change her name and get on a dinghy leaving Calais?

[@dantaylor1724]

She doesn't deserve our time, let her got on with the life she chose. Enough !

[@roserowley911]

Ask them too choose their passport?

[@joshuaparrott2458]

The hell we do

[@giuseppeLizzi-rj3er]

Doesn’t every country does that

[@masere]

Just read that France has deported an imam who called the French flag satanic. If they can do that in the space of a few days why can't us British?

[@greenfly1264]

We all know she'll be given back her status eventually, and the tax payer will cover the bill.

[@VivienneHodson]

Don’t forget the crimes she did towards female prisoners. What I heard she was a B…. We don’t want her back, any why pay more monies to keep her. Why is it that Bangladesh does not want her? Let her stay in the camp and let her captors dish out the punishment. She did the crimes there so fair dues.

[@superu5er]

"Whose" ? Oh well done.

[@carlosfandango6255]

Who's paying for all of this?

[@thomasbarr5940]

Thank goodness,we need to stop being so soft as a country ..we get taken for dafties so often these days

[@michaelwhitehead363]

The courts made the correct decision. Why should we pay for her defence.

[@SuperGrimupnorth]

i suspect a 1 man/woman rubber dingy will be in coming very soon