WE HAVE A PROBLEM : AROME OSAYI & ABEL DAMINA INTERESTING CONUNDRUM - Twisting Scripture!

[@agebeabelaluma5401]

Okay fine let's learn from Abraham, how many times did he pay?

[@mirandafilla]

My question exactly 😂

[@unegbuonyedikachi891]

What is the meaning of .....and he gave tithe of all sir Something doesn't need to be repeatedly mentioned in the scripture for you to know is a pattern they leaved with all their life

[@agebeabelaluma5401]

@@unegbuonyedikachi891 🤣 Chai, the man didn't even pay from his own goods, they were spoils of war, from that logic we should give 90% to other people. Since Abraham gave the rest to the other kings. Please don't do this to yourself, you went to school. If it is a repeated pattern we would know.

[@abioyebaba]

​@@agebeabelaluma5401 I thank God for your working brain. Some people's brains are on vacation.

[@sparetosave6307]

​@@agebeabelaluma5401 I be nor wan agree with you, but you have a point Sha,.. 😂

[@pachuma4real]

Truth is easy to absorb, Pst Arome explanation is wearying but Abels response is electrifying. Simply put, giving is beautiful, let people give out of Love not fear

[@tamiausten873]

Truth isn't necessarily easy to absorb, mostly it's actually hard to swallow. But on this matter, it's clear that they are jumping through hoops to tell us a story that isn't backed up by the Bible and even their own statements. These avengers of tithe are the same people who will say we are New testament people, we don't abide by most of the sacraments of the Old testament anyway, but this one and first fruit is money matter, so we die here 🤣🤣 20:17 this is nonsense, Jesus is the first born and the lamb sacrificed by Jesus, that actually fulfills these Old testament covenants.

[@Spio101]

@@tamiausten873except that they do not preach about Jesus so why are we even listening to them? This is a wake up call for me; I’m a bit disappointed most of these well known preachers aren’t solid in the faith. They seem not to understand what being a disciple of Jesus truly means and actually silent about Jesus except to name drop. Sad.

[@pachuma4real]

@@tamiausten873 I understand clearly what u meant by truth is hard to swallow but I'm talking from the new creature realities, Jesus is TRUTH and it should be easy for us to know it.

[@OdalijeAmalu]

@@Spio101 O good preacher, why are you all hiding? Get your pupit and save people, busy bodies.

[@hello_jesus]

What scripture back truth is easy to absorb. Jesus died and he was the way, the TRUTH, and the life. In fact truth divides.

[@regeneratedmind3799]

I’m for CHRIST & for no human 💖

[@ovyree9159]

Listening to Apostle Arome... Such a twist of the scriptures to satisfy selfish narratives.. Guys, study your scriptures o!

[@jaytshianda]

He is one of the worst wolves with his self righteousness and arrogance, pride as if he is God's personal secretary. He lacks basic knowledge of the Bible 😢😢😢

[@agebeabelaluma5401]

I have just been laughing since, how can they be arguing a christian topic but nobody mentions or quotes Christ. Lies

[@Spio101]

@@agebeabelaluma5401I’m a bit much surprised; they’ve been hiding behind their long speeches and narratives about me me me that they pretend to be sermons. I’m seeing better how (excuse me to say it as it is but they are unqualified) they are UNABLE to teach : teaching is a critical gift a pastor MUST have let alone so called apostle, bishop whatever their titles. But God is the one in control so we can be peaceful about all these happenings

[@MsElina-r1f]

Bro, you have not done anything bad. I identify with Remnant Christian network. However, I do not pay tithe because I am not convinced that it is a serious requirement in the new covenant. I agree that we should pay offering and gift for the work of God, especially in spreading the gospel and welfare of brethren.

[@princesolomon2828]

What can you study about the scripture you that doesn't twist

[@babatundeadebayo1614]

"...in what "attitude" are you giving?" You have summarized it George. The heartfelt n sincere practice of Honour and Gratitude are eternal principles...the giving/offering of "substance" is probably one of the lowest means we can express it. Your video is long but it was worth listening to the very end. May His Peace and Wisdom continually be upon you George. Welldone bro🙏🏾

[@amehgift6105]

I LOVE THIS COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMENT SECTION. GEORGE YOU ARE SURROUNDED BY HIGHLY CEREBRAL SUBSCRIBERS. I AM PLEASED TO BE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. I AM ENJOYING THIS DISCOURSE. THE BODY OF CHRIST NEEDS THIS. THANKS FOR DOING THE LORD'S WORK GEORGE WITHOUT FAIL

[@machabajack7991]

You're preaching more powerfully than some of the Pastors we currently have 😅

[@watchmanchris4christ488]

Aside from the one bible we all read, most of these men of God are but a product of the book they read, n the people they follow👌

[@elishaagbo3710]

Everybody must be a product of something directly or indirectly including unbelievers. Only those with an open mind devoid of sentiments, biases & whose hearts are after nothing but the truth will find the truth.

[@regeneratedmind3799]

The parables of Jesus are ALL about SALVATION!!!

[@tamiausten873]

Ate and left no crumbs!!!! Just check all, it's about God trying to save the lost, not just the current flock, then about how the last days will look like. There's also the ones about the Word of God in our hearts. The whole story is just how to follow Him, know Him and join Him in the "feast" of heaven for eternity. Tithe was a concern of people around Jesus, not a message He spent time on, He even said people are bothered about tithe when people are suffering.

[@lummieedevbie8892]

Yes. About Salavtion but using financial parallels

[@ebenezerafolabi3695]

Thanks! If Jesus' parables were more about finances. How many of his apostles became rich? Jesus came to save and life abundantly, not to talk about finances. Even Joseph and Mary were not rich or was it because they didn't pay tithes. 😂😂

[@elizabethmang9684]

The whole Bible itself is all ABOUT CHRIST THE SAVIOR OF MANKIND. They keep twisting the message for their selfish game

[@NehiNehi4life]

Their dumb followers will continue to defend these charlatan preachers who knows nothing about the true Gospel of our Lord Jesus christ. All they know about is the Gospel of mammon.

[@ehi2283]

BRG, God has made every believer a priest in the New Testament because He now lives in us.

[@iwebdigitalbusinesssolutio7550]

You're blessed and thank God for your understanding.

[@oluyinkaadeyinka7488]

❤

[@oluyinkaadeyinka7488]

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[@olatundeolapetan6190]

1Peter. 2: 9... Ye are a CHOSEN generation, a royal priesthood (a king & a priest in the order of Melchizedek), a holy nation.... 👍🏽

[@regeneratedmind3799]

George, your head is very CORRECT! Good job, my brother 🙏🏾

[@ozimomoh7875]

Mr. George, I ordain you here-forth Pastor, Apost. George , from 45:45 -48:02 wonderful wonderful breakdown.... Indeed How long would you keep unfolding the blindfolds............................................. Christ our real chief priest........................................ Just a quiet follower..............................

[@ovyree9159]

Are these pastors aware that Melchizedek blessed Abraham not requesting anything before Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils?? The blessing came before the giving. So we give because we are blessed not to get blessed...

[@emmanuelobakare]

Correct, and that is why you tithe what God has blessed you with.

[@sparetosave6307]

Oil dey ur head❤😊

[@sparetosave6307]

​@@emmanuelobakareas gratitude, not demand....as insinuated by African preachers

[@morganaiyanyi8474]

​You are mixing things up... When you study scriptures learn to separate God's actions and demand from Man's actions Like ovyree said Melchizedek never asked Abraham to give for blessing him, Abraham giving was from his own accord​... When you start rightly dividing you will understand@@emmanuelobakare

[@tamiausten873]

​@@sparetosave6307 exactly, meanwhile na poor people dey struggle to pay. People who are owing debts shouldn't be in the category of blessed. Some pastors say when you get money as a gift or to pay school fees etc you should pay tithe 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️. Now my mom is paying tithe of the money she gets from friends and family as a retired teacher with no pension 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️. She's supposed to be receiving from the church, not the other way around

[@blossomdeejohn7699]

BRG, we know it's that season where lies will be louder than the TRUTH. Let us go back to God. I appreciate the good work you are doing.

[@pachuma4real]

Mr George, you made a statement that validates all uve said in this video; "your pastors are neither levites nor priest according to inheritance towards God to accept tithes, we are not part of the firstborn, we are gentiles grafted into God's original people. How comes we are claiming Jesus more. Jesus came for the lost sheep of Israel but by God's mercy, we gentiles are grafted.

[@amehgift6105]

@@pachuma4real I heard that part. It was so "loud" and profound

[@samuelebenebe2656]

Really good work BRG YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB

[@joyf1586]

By the way the first time I heard of Abel is when he was in the same conference with Matthew they were both speakers. I had heard of Mathew first, so I joined the conference online and decided to watch all the speakers and walaa I Abel was born in my life that day and I love him.

[@chukwukeereagoha7024]

Abel Damina is a kind, let's watch out.

[@lizjohnson5998]

My brother, I can tell you that God in heaven is happy with you.

[@04105er]

I believe after Abel finished preaching on that program, Mathew will not have any message to preach. Same happens at House on the rock in 2016 where Ashimolowo himself confess he can't understand what Abel was preaching saying he has the Revelation. @ BRG get those recordings - its online.

[@ubee959]

My issue with Arome is his egoistic desire to sound “superior” to everyone else.

[@kenid4144]

Please don't tell me you just discovered that😅 If it were you nko...if you had access to the upper echelons where normal humans dont reach unless they pray 12 hours a day for 6 months... how would you speak 😅😅😅

[@olatundeolapetan6190]

​​@@kenid4144 May the Lord forgive you...

[@kenid4144]

@@olatundeolapetan6190 If I have committed any sin, may the Lord forgive me. But if I have stated facts over sentiments, may all discerning people take heed and be wary of the super apostles - those who TRULY know that believers will keep paying tithes in Heaven because it's a principle of honour...so says NO Bible verse!

[@blossomdeejohn7699]

Welldone BRG. You can also check this firstborn thing with what Apostle Takim midweek service n yesterdays service. The main thing is we should go back to our bible n reach God himself

[@Jesuslovesgrandma]

The most annoying and the most painful thing about all these is that souls of men are at stake. They just complicate the gospel of Jesus Christ which is very simple and straightforward. I pity the gullible ones.

[@iwebdigitalbusinesssolutio7550]

You have understanding sir

[@MTJCC]

😢😢

[@emmanuelesson3966]

Some men of God will close 🔐 there ministry Amen

[@MTJCC]

Amen and stop devouring the sheep!

[@mella6480]

I always love your touch of eunoia ❤ Those moved by sentiments always miss the facts...

[@reviews.trainingresearchad9648]

From 33:15 to 33:25 timestamp is the summary. You said everything. People(MOG) now want to be God's interpreter, interpreting nonsenz and saying its scriptural

[@BeingRealGeorge]

Some think I put the horns on the head of Damina… wooo! I found the picture like that. I guess it was put out there by someone because of what Arome Osayi said… I don’t have time to design pictures. I focus on video … Hopefully you watched to the end…

[@PrinceOdionPrince-ue5ej]

U explain the word firstly in Genesis 4

[@Mrkkaykay]

At minute 44:44, you intentionally not tell us that it was the priests that are robbing God by not bringing the offering in the store house. And if the priests did bring anything, they brought the sick and rotten offering.dey play😅😅😅😅

[@Heneyens]

my broder when you know you noe

[@baridelondonake9187]

There's been alot of mix up of alot of things from these People. Esp. the theologians. I believe it is simple. But I'll just comment on Melchizedek. I believe he was an ordinary man, here on earth. Abraham gave tithe to him. Christs priesthood likened to that of Melchizedek was in the context that Melchizedek being a king and priest was not inherited, he wasn't made a priest because his lineage where priests. Just like the Aaron & Levintocal priesthood. Christ became a priest in the order of Melchizedek, his father or lineage where not priests etc. I believe in tithe, I believe in giving, Call it whatever you want. I believe we give to God and the work of God because we've become co-labourers with God in all we do, at such giving to God , for the work of God is a must because i recognise God role is blessing and providing for me. In as much as all we have belongs to God. 10% I believe is more like the nearest minimum, so as not to be categorised as giving sparingly. But come on, we can and should give more. Even our selves for the work of God.

[@tamiausten873]

There's also a halo there, it looks to me like a question of his identity 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@akpanTv84]

JESUS IS LORD. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK BRG.

[@kevinoteltv9399]

Tell these Nigerian self-declared pastors and prophets fighting each other to show us which Disciple or Apostle took tithes...Secondly, Chinese and Arabs do not pay tithes but are 100 times better than us. Thirdly, I like when they go to Malachi and other O.T books. What about Exodus 21 vs 10 which asks us to take more than one wives? Why don't they preach that? Are they afraid of loosing clients??

[@josbeam8550]

The principle of Tithes is to God.The failings of this nation has to do with failed governance ce caused as a result of bad leadership and it has nothing to do with tithing or the church.

[@ayodeleayodele6500]

​@josbeam8550 😂😂😂😂😂😂! Who is Elon musk and dangote paying their tithe to?

[@foliofolajuwon5941]

The use of TITHES by some churches may not be according to the purpose of it. But no man can dispute that TITHES is scriptural and obedience is required from believers, not by force (not to lord it over), but they have to pay it with cheerfulness, willingness, and gratefulness of hearts. This could be their reward for their services to GODand humanity. The prophecies of scripture are every day in the fulfilling.

[@xenahzirebwa4503]

I think it is easier to comment on what other people preach....once you start preaching and people cross check your teachings it becomes a difference ball game altogether. One thing i have noted, all preaching is not without errors. We are fallible only God is infallible.

[@elishaagbo3710]

That means what you have just said is not without error.

[@xenahzirebwa4503]

​@@elishaagbo3710 if you followed what I said, there is no one out there who is 100 % correct when it comes to interpretation of Scriptures. There is a difference however in malicious diving of word and error.

[@sammyjoey9607]

we are fallible but we must adhere to scripture,we must not read into it

[@elishaagbo3710]

@@xenahzirebwa4503 your statement seems well packaged & delivered & appears to hold true at all times. On all doctrinal issues perhaps you're right, but you can still find people who are 100% correct on certain particular doctrinal issues.

[@xenahzirebwa4503]

@@elishaagbo3710 True...

[@nattiebama]

What we need more is knowing God & having the Holy Spirit. No one, no pastor or ministers is perfect. Let’s desire to know God & have relationship with God. Read our bible. Listen to messages that edify your soul & throw away the messages that don’t.

[@ifeanyiejiasi2251]

I appreciate the labour you put in here, beloved. God has blessed you, Bro George. 🙏🙏🙏

[@ogunsan]

Because of money, MONEY, men that were held in high regard, men who started well have become beggars at the gates of the narrow way. They have brought to light the insecurities they never truly dealt with at the alter of sacrifice. A man that will walk with God will hate Mammon.

[@MTJCC]

The Bible says you cannot serve God and Mammon, yet they want it sooo bad! The Bible also tells us that we cannot love God and the world yet they obviously do.

[@davidkennedy6504]

Apostle Arome osayi can never be in that league of mammon Lovers or whatsoever, YOU CLEARLY DO NOT KNOW THE MAN....

[@lukeabu174]

As far as I can see, Damina is VERY apt., God is using him to open our eyes to Christ. It is Christ or nothing. He may not be perfect but he is on point in so many things. Damina's teachings has dwarfed most of this so called Apostles teachings. May God build His church.

[@AdeoyeJohn-v7i]

Damina will open your eyes until you find your self in hell

[@AdeoyeJohn-v7i]

You people need encounter to know way to follow

[@AdeoyeJohn-v7i]

The life of damina full of heresy

[@AdeoyeJohn-v7i]

God will help you before it will too late for you

[@lukeabu174]

@@AdeoyeJohn-v7i People don't find themselves in hell. Think, you modern day Pharisee

[@blessingdanduri5158]

Brother, thank you for explaining scripture well. What you said about living sacrifices, I had never thought of it like that. Thank you

[@richiecalculus224]

Woow Zac Poonen's interpretation of tithes is always the best. Amazing man of God

[@olabisidurojaiye]

God bless you. Zacpoonen is the best explanation ❤❤❤❤❤

[@saflows]

What is the summary of his explanation pls

[@richiecalculus224]

@@saflows go back n listen to him careful. U can summarise it urself after

[@christ-Revealed]

he was just talking rubbish tithe was never tax in the law, it was never paid it was enjoyed with your family in the temple.

[@richiecalculus224]

@@christ-Revealed Yoo bogga where did u learn that one sided interpretation of tithe from. Check all scriptures on tithe well

[@victorkaunda8551]

But apostle paul explained in details about Abraham and Melchizedek in Hebrews 7 v1- 12 and v 11 and 12 explain why tithes can’t be collected anymore, in v 5 he clearly states who could pay the tithes and to who , it very funny he even explained that Abraham did it only once eish a thief wen caught doesn’t want to except so let him explain Hebrew 7 v 11 -12

[@Spio101]

Tim Keller (a gifted teacher) referring to Apostle Paul’s letter to the Galatians put it simply: we are saved only by the grace of God, and THEN that grace enables us to live in obedience to God. HERETICS in contrast say ‘obey rules BEFORE you can be saved’.

[@oluwatoyinojo2222]

Hebrews 10:5 (KJV) reads: "Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me." The order of sacrifices ended with Jesus’ birth, burial, and resurrection. Now, it is a living sacrifice-your body-that is required. What the new age Melchizedek requires from believers is their body (holiness); this will be the order in the world to come.

[@chinyerehuldah8862]

George I am tired of this issue but my question is how is it possible that out of all the laws God gave in the old testament, it is only this tithing that these pastors saw and thinks it survived the doing away with the laws by Jesus as they claimed that all the laws has been done away with.

[@Spio101]

Follow the money 😂😂😂

[@sunford1]

Ask again ooo

[@missiobarcelona]

Ephesians 4:11-14 Now these are the gifts Christ gave to the church: the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, and the pastors and teachers. Their responsibility is to equip God’s people to do his work and build up the church, the body of Christ. This will continue until we all come to such unity in our faith and knowledge of God’s Son that we will be mature in the Lord, measuring up to the full and complete standard of Christ. THEN WE WILL NO LONGER BE IMMATURE LIKE CHILDREN. WE WON’T BE TOSSED AND BLOWN ABOUT BY EVERY WIND OF NEW TEACHING. WE WILL NOT BE INFLUENCED WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO TRICK US WITH LIES SO CLEVER THEY SOUND LIKE THE TRUTH.

[@paulgabrielolofu5911]

Your videos are the only 1hr videos I watch on KZbin. You're doing well

[@samuelolapade506]

Holy Spirit will continue to guide you aright. We need to talk privately

[@mideandreconsult8790]

AROME just wasted his time with so many long-winded and Apostolic Jargons to defend his argument. Abraham paid tithes once and from spoils that weren’t money{and do not say money was unavailable then} None of the Apostles ever mentioned tithes but this Super-apostles have introduced themselves greater than Peter and Paul and are re-writing the Bible to suit their lust for the filthy lucre. Jude 1 vs 11 Woe to them! They have taken the way of Cain; they have rushed for profit into Balaam's error; they have been destroyed in Korah's rebellion. 12 These people are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm-shepherds who feed only themselves. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

[@MTJCC]

Scripture!!!

[@Steph_D_1st]

Arome sounded so humble or humbled!

[@michaeliyidahsnr.5862]

I came here first ooh😂😂😂❤

[@flsconcept8982]

Arome Osayi was talking about principles of honor The thing is that if we say tithing was by agric produce, then it applied also to offerings... Offerings then were also mainly agricultural produce However, in this modern age, we don't sacrifice animals to God on altar... However, same principles of honor is still valid Jesus never condemned giving nor did he condemn tithe Apostles didn't condemn tithe either... But fact is that many early Jewish Christians continued in the Jewish traditions I see a hypocrisy... People say tithe is abolished... Why can't we say offerings is abolished as well? And also to the argument of tithes should be agricultural produce... That means offering nowadays should be agricultural produce as well The only thing we can say is that tithing or offering is not a prerequisite for salvation or blessings from God.. We give to honor God... It's more like a responsibility rather than a prerequisite Even naturally, we give to people we love or support... This principle will never end Till we end.. The followers of Damina will continue to give to support his ministry And the followers of Arome Osayi will do same I also believe we will also honor God when we leave the earth, but it might not be through offering of physical things What we should even be looking at is accountability and moderate lifestyle of church leaders, not endless debate of tithe vs offering

[@giftedchild9490]

I mean, I thought people would understand that since he was talking about heaven, I'm not sure why people attribute tithes to money...even Jesus was referred to as the first fruit.

[@sunford1]

The debate is necessary because of greedy and affluent lifestyle of the receivers of the money. No christian complained until the convoys, aeroplanes and showmanship overwhelmed everyone. The church is a registered NGO and the donors are overwhelmed and tired now of the results of their giving over the years. Batton is changing from fathers to sons as particular families swim in riches as against the others standing still. Is this Gods plan for the church member?

[@newwinecreativeempire6515]

What are you talking about? Well, simple: we don't argue about offering because in clear terms, them Jesus and the disciples spoke expressedly about giving willingly and cheerfully.

[@flsconcept8982]

@@newwinecreativeempire6515 the apostles also talked about setting apart a portion of one's income If as Christians, we decide that that portion is a tenth (tithe)... Some decide is 20% or whatever percentage, albeit willingly, what is wrong in that?

[@newwinecreativeempire6515]

@@flsconcept8982 Nothing is wrong work giving. We both agree on that. But here's the point? If you GIVE 10% of your earnings to the church or God's service, it doesn't make it TITHING because if you choose to give 20% or 30% doesn't make it TWENTIETH OR THIRTIETH. The argument here is the principle that birth the payment of tithe that has been used to infuse the promise of money and fear of poverty in people so that people no longer give "willingly and cheerfully" but grudgingly so as to avoid the punishment of God and sometimes eagerly so as to attract the blessing of God as though God is a puppet or a business man doing transactions with us. So again, we can do away with the legalistic view of tithing which neither Jesus nor the apostles affirmed and we can go ahead to encourage Christians to give willingly and cheerfully as Jesus and his disciples preached. We can't hold on to something just because we think it's "good", when we know it's not "God".

[@ehi2283]

BRG, I liked this video because you are a very sincere gentleman. I never like any video that Arome is preaching/teaching because of the wrong spirit that lives in him. The man is not of God.

[@jaytshianda]

Amen . 💯 Truth

[@moshoodkorede9893]

Money is no more the root of evil.

[@reviews.trainingresearchad9648]

Yes our high priest now is Christ because he is the being that interceeds our case to God almighty just like in the time of d bible the earthy high priest interceeded and mediate between God and man. And when Jesus died he tore the cloth in the temple which with that act many MOG has agreed he abolished the priestly activity of that time giving everyone direct access to God. So why do we still argue tithing to pastors today when God is now the priest. We are all robing God himself. No wonder for the past 2 years since i have been praying to God and asking to which MOG should i tithe to He has kept quiet, no wonder He keeps quiet unlike when i pray other prayers. Its now i understand why He has been quiet. We all have been robing Christ himself paying tithe to men when we should be offering our lives to Him, instead we are still doing what he abolished by His dèath as Christians

[@obedgreg2749]

This Melchizedek story is never about tithe. The Biblical emphasis on Melchizedek is centrally about Jesus and His deity. It's never about tithing. Abraham gave him tithe voluntarily and as a mark of honour. Melchizedek never demanded tithe from Abraham neither did he bless Abraham for giving him tithe. Abraham was already blessed even before meeting Melchizedek and giving him tithe of all. So it was never about getting blessed a d recieving anything from him. Twisting the Bible to promote your desire to collect tithe from people is just fraudulent and evil.

[@kingsleyawa6377]

Do you know apst arome ministry don't collect tithes ?

[@iwebdigitalbusinesssolutio7550]

​​@@kingsleyawa6377Why then does he champion it while lying to defend it with scriptures?

[@highergroundglobalministries]

Please tell these pastors and their followers- who are looking to keep the people of God in bondage so that they can steal from the people.

[@msughnongo1832]

​@@kingsleyawa6377really.... So why is he defending is with fallacies and twisting the word of God?

[@benaiahasante6957]

​@@msughnongo1832 because Jesus also never attacked it... Jesus didn't so we shouldn't

[@bosealabi8740]

I don't understand this generation, we just want to collect and don't want to give.

[@BeingRealGeorge]

@@bosealabi8740 Do you know where you are or you just got here?

[@moshoodkorede9893]

Please what did you collect for free?

[@oludre100]

My understanding of how they run those conferences is that each speaker has his one session and they didnt have to sit under each others session. They may meet and greet in the hotel they logged

[@justustolutope]

Nice exposition by BRG devoid of sentiments 🎉

[@IamKaska]

These guys just keep tying themselves! Where were these pastors instructed to collect tithes on behalf of melchizedek?

[@BennieUche]

It is funny how my fellow Pastors always pick out the 10% that was given to Melchizedek but ignores 100% given to King of Sodom (Gen. 14:21-24). Worth noteing also, is that Melchizedek first fed 319 (Abram and his servants) not to mention the number that accompanied Aner, Eschol and Mamre, before Abram reciprocated. They also twist scriptures, the Epistle to the Hebrew Church was to prove that Jesus Christ is suprior to, Angels, Moses, Temple etc, reference to Melchizedek was brought up to show Jesus is High Priest forever, so greater than the Levitical priesthood, even Abraham. Let’s encourage Christian giving. If you don’t give, you do not know Christ!

[@snappydesinsprint331]

I came secondly 😅

[@GodsfriendEzi]

I will continue to tithe and support God's work on earth until Jesus Christ comes! Jesus Christ bought me with his blood from the slave market of sin and Satan! I will honor Him with the substance He has given me.

[@Spio101]

You want to say you’ll continue to “give” to support the kingdom of God. That’s what believers do more as we grow deeper in the faith: we offer our bodies, the WHOLE you not just some pithy 10% (especially if you’re doing it like a ‘bribe’ to avoid God’s wrath or to get something backt - bad mentality), and giving to all good causes that glorify the name of Jesus and help people taste of the kingdom and goodness of God. So give a good friendship, give a good career service, give your help to those who need it, and of course give to the preachers who depend on you to feed their families too. Don’t get sucked into self righteousness like giving some “10%” (especially to greedy well to do people) makes you better than the other person who gives to meet a much better need to the glory of God.

[@splendid9529]

One thing I understand is that God delights in offering and sacrifices. But all these dragging is what Jesus was kicking against... we keep focusing on tithes of everything ( which is good), but we are over emphasizing it and living the weightier matters of the law

[@royalprincechimezie9661]

Jesus Christ Is Lord

[@ayodelebalogun4561]

Most of these modern day revelations are high sounding non sense that have no foundation from the scripture. They are the ones Jesus refers to as "teaching for doctrine the commandments of men.

[@MTJCC]

Truth!

[@franciscaokoh8638]

Thank you for your honesty

[@Jesuslovesgrandma]

I think one problem some of these pastors have is like they think that they are the only one who has the Holy Spirit who inspired the Scriptures. With my little understanding of the Scriptures, once someone is born of the Spirit of God ( born again), the Spirit of God in Him will help him with the understanding of the Word of God. Folks, please ask the Holy Spirit to interprete the Scriptures for you.

[@emmanuelesson3966]

When the trueth come lies will reveals

[@iwebdigitalbusinesssolutio7550]

Even though I understand what you're trying to say, but that's not completely true. You need teachers when it comes to understanding the scriptures. That's why God gave gifts to men, some Apostles, prophets, pastors, evangelists etc. However, most of these guys like Arome are not the right teacher cos you'll not grow in the knowledge of Christ when you follow them because they themselves do not understand what the gospel is let alone raising other believers in Christ. And I say this without mincing words.

[@reviews.trainingresearchad9648]

​@@iwebdigitalbusinesssolutio7550not truth. We need the Holy Sprint pls not teachers. Thats not what the bible said.

[@moyomwiyamorris3935]

Jesus is Lord

[@kingsleyehizenaga6206]

God have mercy .... Ashomolo is preaching blasphemy...... God wants us to proper but also we need to work. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were not blessed because they gave tithes but we're already rich before knowing God.

[@thevinetutor8184]

The Passage in Malachi was the Priest not even the people. They were the ones who screen the sacrifice before presenting it to the Lord. So after collecting the tithe the rob God by presenting the unwanted. It is well 😂

[@IsaiahHuiosSnr]

A few minutes ago I just finished putting aside my TITHE ahead of tomorrow for my God.… I am not here to argue but I am here to say that I will tithe as long I am still alive. Thank you 🙏🏾🥲🙏🏾

[@giftedchild9490]

And you are not wrong for it, between you and God.

[@ProgSoundN_A-cube]

Not wrong. But anything you do, do with a good reason and not a generalized or fearful one.

[@giftedchild9490]

@ProgSoundN_A-cube who made it fearful? We have been paying tithes since time memorial, Anglican Baptist, methodist pay tithes but with pentecostal, the world would not let them breathe. Tithes is not forced, if your church is talking about only tithes ,you shift base

[@peteroye1216]

If you are tithing, do so to the glory of the Father. If you are not, let it be to the glory of the Father. In whatever we do, it must be to the glory of the Father.

[@ProgSoundN_A-cube]

@@giftedchild9490 I don’t know what opted the high tension on your part, but what I said wasn’t wrong. If you live in this world, you would’ve realized most pastors fighting against the woke preaching of people who don’t pay tithes, will go to hell. That’s a fearful and frightening statement if you don’t know. More so, what is the use of tithes? What’s its intention? Do you focus on Christ or on tithes and the church? Nobody says you shouldn’t pay tithes or pay tithes, do it with a personal reason with God. Let it be to his Glory and not for a fact that someone told you to pay tithes. I prefer supporting the works of God with thanksgivings and Offerings than including tithes. Some people will sit in church, skip offerings just to pay tithes. As if it’s a bargaining with God. Tithes is just a 10th percentage of what God has given you, including the gift of life, that you give back to him not as payment but as a sign of worship and appreciation

[@justinamaimagani7408]

So, who is the Melchizedek among them? How many aircrafts did he have? Chai! Human beings can smoothly twist scriptures to advance their love for money.😮

[@beno6316]

I’m amazed, why Nigeria preacher or Africa pastors so much concerns to tithes rather than souls winning. It’s a shame.

[@JoeyMax_]

very rich content...thanks BRG....i like your closing line, infact there are eternal questions that we cannot answer about God....summary of Faith & Religion: THE JUST SHAL LIVE BY FAITH. shikena

[@udochukwunnadi6341]

Bible said that the judgement of God will start from the house of God and imagine what the prosperity and tithe preachers will say when the time comes.

[@agebeabelaluma5401]

Its not because of the nature of thier society, all of them used monies, nobody ever paid tithe of money. Oh my God.

[@hello_jesus]

God is King. We should go and research how Kings are honored. If you don't want to honor God and give him all that he has shown us brings him reverence than know you are not in his service.

[@seuna.8438]

Nigerian prosperity Pastors would rather change the Bible than free people from the bondage of tithe and tell them to give freely. I love Arome, but he's struggling to defend his stand that we will give tithe in heaven. If you see them speaking a lot of Apostolic grammar, they want to confuse you.

[@iwebdigitalbusinesssolutio7550]

😅😅😅 you are smart!

[@gideonsankah2071]

It's all about money and who is the beneficiary, it's the one asking for the tithe. The more reason why they fight for the tight far more than for the soul of the people is that, with the tithe that's where the money comes directly into their pocket. Read the scriptures for yourself most of these guys are business men

[@NkemUmezinne]

The devil has succeeded in making men of God argue over trivial issues in the Bible. Instead of joining forces to win souls for the kingdom of heaven they allow themselves to be distracted.

[@xenahzirebwa4503]

Who now occupies the officr of priest and levites in the church age? Very interesting? Interesting exposition on the book of Malachi.

[@ebukakenoz4128]

What Abel gave to God is the 1st born of his sheep, not tithe. Genesis 4: 4 Abel also brought a gift-the best portions of the firstborn lambs from his flock. The Lord accepted Abel and his gift.

[@MTJCC]

The "prosperity" gospel is another gospel. Which part Galatians 1:8-9 don't they get “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed [anathema]. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed [anathema].”

[@samuelolapade506]

How can I join your channel

[@oladipobashorun5790]

BRG, thanks for your indepth and incisive analysis. However, how come there is no one in the bible that actually disputed about tithing? Not a single one. Two, where do many christians fail to study the bible to know the truth and not fall prey of foul plays on issues sorrounding tithes and offering? Three, couldn't all these pastors and apostles gather to sort out doctinal differences like it was done in Apostle paul days. Afterall, they all quote from thesame bible books. We are interested in other narratives that talks about the ministry of Jesus and beyond the timeline of his earthly ministry. May God bless all that have commented and BRG

[@xenahzirebwa4503]

When he said pay tithe in heaven, it is not in literal sense. He said by means of serving the will of God only. The royalties like he said are not monetary. He gave the order in eden, then in Mathew and the like. Whilst i understand that there is tithe as a law and tithe by faith as under Melchizedek. My question is did Jesus rebut abolish the tithe. Secondly, wherevis the place of 2 Timothy 2:15....if everything has to be stipulated in the word. Whats the use of Ephesians 4. I love your analysis and i would love to know that whats your position tithe. Who taught Jacob to tithe. Who taught Abraham to tithe. Who taught Abel and Cain to offer. Whether that was tithe or not??? Interesting question that you posed. When did tithe start...and who taught these patriarchs to tithe. That is an interesting thing. I qm asking out of a position and desire to learn not to defend anyone.

[@BeingRealGeorge]

You know when tithe started under the law WHEN GOD COMMANDED… it’s that simple. Abraham was under no law so discussing him in the context of Malachi is ❌ . If the Bible did not mention something don’t assume it. Besides Abraham tithe from the spoils of war NOT HIS PROPERTY and he gave back the 90% not keep it. If you are to give cheerfully THERE IS NO LAW and not even 10% is a benchmark because there is NONE. Oga let the scriptures explain itself if your pastor tells you God told him, you can believe him because you are subject to his authority over you like I stated YOUR PASTOR IS NOT GOD HERE respectfully so I look at subjects objectively. Jesus knew the law more than you or your pastors will ever know yet he asked not for tithe. Pastor David Abioye said you give tithe to Jesus not the church yet you don’t see Jesus collecting tithe in the Bible and he walked this earth. Jesus spoke to law keepers as they were while admonishing then on what’s more essential. If you are under the curse of the law please I am not against you like I said… I am okay with he that became a curse for me.

[@nedudee7861]

Beware of pastors that only base their teaching from the Old Testament.

[@busymeditators2960]

How many times and for how many years did Abraham pay tithe to Melchizedek? If only in one instance, why are we paying tithe from the same job every month??? We need more scriptures to proof the point that Abraham paid tithe multiple times or all through his lifetime. Thank you!

[@naledijabanga2269]

Pray for both pastors. Its hectic

[@futuremirrormedia4624]

We don't know where The bishop of Trem stands, you have mentioned serious facts

[@gideonsankah2071]

If anyone comes to preach any gospel may he be accursed

[@julesmanga72]

im not defending the Apostle Arome, but he never said Pastor Damina is from satan. he said and i quote he works for satan..." you can be froom God and find yourself working for Satan. didn't David number the people tho he was God's choice over israel. but doesnt the scripture say he was incited to do that by the devil ? you can be of God and do the devil's job nevertheless

[@FransiscahMuindi]

My advice is let people read their Bible let them allow Spirit of God to guide them otherwise many a lost though in church

[@mbiarikaiagbor9189]

I Love Apt Arome and will continue to download and watch his teachings. In the matter of tithe, I believe he is wrong, just like many ministries and men of God. Here are a few thoughts. 1. Anybody teaching believers to tithe, knows more than Jesus. Jesus knew the law, and he knew Abraham, yet he didn't ask the disciples to tithe or collect tthis. Whosoever is teaching tithe is above Jesus. 2. Jesus did ministry and raised Apostles. He had justification to ask and collect tithe to do the work of His father, but he didn't collect nor pay tithe. 3. Paul in Galatians 5:4, says those trying do the law are fallen from grace as they are making the sacrifice of the cross of none effect. Paying tithe is discrediting the work of the cross. 4. As believers, we appropriate the blessings of Abraham by faith in the finished work of Christ (Galatians 3:13). 5. Giving is the validated and accepted principle and 2 Corinthians 8 and 9 as well as Luke 6:38 teaches believers to give. 6. Jesus asked the scribes and Pharisees to tithe in Luke 11:42 and Matthew 23:23 because it was part of their law. However, he didn't ask the disciples to collect or pay tithe. 7. Jesus didn't collect tithe on earth when he needed it, but now that he's with the father, he needs tithes. What a joke!!! 8. I have not seen any scripture to suggest that the spirits of just men made perfect are paying tithe. The teachings of Jesus are easy to understand but out of selfishness men will twist scriptures for selfish gain. Men of God teaching and asking for tithe are selfish and wicked. This teaching of Apt Arome, is making him to be of the same pedestal as Papa J omoto, a thif is a thif.

[@MrsTrophy]

No one is going to be giving tithe in heaven. The Lord Jesus said tithe was not even a weigher matter of the law. It's not that serious. Those are earthly arrangements.

[@tamiausten873]

Exactly. They are just looking for way to convince us. I wish they spend more time teaching people to give to the poor around them. Someone even said we should give to those who have more so that you can be blessed 😂😂 meanwhile the poor are dieing. And Jesus said it's those that give to the poor, homeless, hungry, sick etc that He'll recognize on the last day, the rest will be thrown into a lake of fire

[@mikael0413]

It's quite unfortunate and disappointing that such a statement could come from a person like Arome Osayi, saying we will pay tithes in heaven. Perhaps I was holding him to a higher standard than necessary thinking he is at least different from many of the money hungry ones and biblically sound.

[@findxng]

@@mikael0413 he is different... If he says we will continue paying tithes in heaven, he means that we will continue to honour I AM forever. Tithe is not money. Tithe is not money. Tithe is not money. It is honour to the one who gave the power to get the blessings, the victory, the success Deuteronomy 8:18

[@DividingRightly]

Did you listen to the video itself to see the points for which he made to assert that opinion? I think you should rather listen to it for yourself. He also made the point you just said that its not a weighty matter..so you're both in agreement on that point. But that doesn't mean tithes shouldn't be properly explained, and that's what Apostle did and it's quite clear when you think about it. We actually will still give honour to God whilst in heaven and that will come in tithes and offerings

[@PrinceOdionPrince-ue5ej]

​@@mikael0413he is different, he pays also it is what you do that you teach. Truth is had, arome is not preaching to please any body

[@noretreatnosurrender8128]

The Tithe you pay in Heaven is by worshiping God wit the ANGELS

[@BeingRealGeorge]

So 10% of your time in heaven will be to worship God🙂.

[@OdalijeAmalu]

How I wish that Arome should not serve tables but face the work. Damina has assignments against the body of Christ, but as others failed, he shall not be exceptional.

[@adegokeolusegun2369]

Abel damina and pastor ashimolowo used to be friends,though the difference in what both of them preached have already led to some differences,but both of them using same platform to preach for pastor mike okonkwo will not result to anything.They cannot use his platform for personal attacks either.That will not be ethical though.Arome and joshua selman preached at WOFBEC.The highest thing that will happen is that they will not be made to sit side by side and if they are made to do such,nothing will still happen.They cannot be seen creating a public scene in the hallowed house of God.

[@KingPriest]

"Arome should go and learn the difference between 'the law of works' ('Galatians 3:12: The man that does them shall live in them') and 'the law of faith' (Romans 1:17, 'Habakkuk 2:4: The just shall live by his faith'), as contrasted in Romans 3:27. His reasoning is too carnal; his full teaching is based on the pattern of 'the law of works,' which has now been superseded by 'the law of faith.' Teaching Christians to try to live in patterns of "the law of works" is heretic. The foolish Galatians poison. 'Romans 3:27: Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.' 0. The law of works cannot be practiced, fulfilled, followed, or obeyed by using faith. 'Galatians 3:12: And the law is not of faith: but, The man that does them shall live in them.' I heard someone said people should give tith by faith. that's is not possible ('Galatians 3:12: And the law is not of faith: ) FYI: Only three things will endure into the age to come: faith, hope, and love. 'And now these three remain: faith, hope, and love. But the greatest of these is love' (1 Corinthians 13:13). These will be fully lived out in the fruit of the Spirit, 'against which there is no law' (Galatians 5:23)." 2. Genuine honor to God is rooted in faith in Him. Moses and his generation were denied entry into Canaan not for breaking the law of giving, or Torah, but for their lack of belief. 'So we see that they were not able to enter because of their unbelief' (Hebrews 3:19). 3. GOD SAID UNBELIEF WAS A DIS-HONOR/DESPISING TO HIM. 'How long will this people despise me? And how long will they not believe in me, in spite of all the signs that I have done among them?' (Numbers 14:11). 4. Moses cautioned his people not to attribute their entry into Canaan or better life in Canaan to their righteous deeds-such as giving tithes, offering alms, or following the Torah-but to God's mercy and promise. 5. 'Do not say in your heart, after the Lord your God has thrust them out before you, "It is because of my righteousness that the Lord has brought me in to possess this land,"... , but because of the wickedness of these nations the Lord your God is driving them out from before you, and that he may confirm the word that the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob' (Deuteronomy 9:4-5). 6. The Apostle Paul, though blameless under the law of works, regarded his past credentials as loss for the sake of Christ, prioritizing faith that works in love. 7. 'If someone else thinks they have reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more: circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee; as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for righteousness based on the law, faultless. But whatever were gains to me I now consider loss for the sake of Christ' (Philippians 3:4-7). 8. We cannot honor God BY OBSERVING ANY PRINCIPLE APART FROM FAITH THAT WORKS IN LOVE. Trying to honor God by observing any principle apart from faith which works in Love is trying to please God after the pattern of "the law of works" WHICH BEFORE GOD IS LIKE A DUNG. 9. It is impossible to honor or please God without faith. 'And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him' (Hebrews 11:6). 10. Giving or any act of honor that is merely a response to a law or principle Apart from Faith which works in Love is not genuine. Jesus criticized such things, which creates only superficial love and obedience.' (Matthew 23:25-26). 11. Thus, Arome Osayi is mistaken in thinking that the law of honor can be implemented through the law of works (principles for giving like Abraham or Torah). NOT EVERYTHING ABRAHAM OR ABEL DID IS IMPORTED INTO NEW TASTEMENT. That Presumption thinking since Abraham Did it then we must do it ITS VERY CANAL REASONING. We are pushing away what Apostles in the bible established, practiced and taught. 'Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law' (Romans 13:8). Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

[@xenahzirebwa4503]

Your hatred for him is commendable. So you think you are teaching him. Do you think he has time to read your comment. If you were that privileged by God to teach, were are your followers. Where is your impact??? May God have mercy on us. Apostle Arome Osayi may not be a perfect man. I follow his teachings. He doesn't teach righteousness of the law. He attributes the discipline he has to the grace of God. The problem is we have failed a lot in upholding the Christian standards and we hate those who walk the talk. Shame on us

[@olatundeolapetan6190]

Though it was a personal decision, but it wasn't established that Abraham's first mentioned tithe ever happened again, BUT, It was clearly stated in Genesis. 28: 20 - 22, (the second mention, Jacob) that it was a CONTINUOUS PRACTICE, & Jacob's decision was ALSO a PERSONAL decision birthed from his PERSONAL ENCOUNTER with God at that place he named Bethel (meaning; house of God/ gate way to heaven)... The kind of giving that was mentioned in 2corinthians. 9: 7 is very similar to the first & second mention of tithe & the first mention of giving, (Abel's offering), 'cos they were all based on their personal encounter with God, & conviction in their hearts through the Spirit of God that prompted them into GIVING CHEERFULLY... I think it's high time we put this whole tithe issue to bed jare, & leave every man to his faith & beliefs in HIS GOD, & whatever works for each person, 'cos FAITH IS PERSONAL.. (Romans. 14: 22)

[@samuelolapade506]

The Bible is the authority book that God has given to us to reveal his only begotten Son. One thing I perceived is that some of them are reading books that they think it has better and higher information than the Bible or any book that has interpreted Bible. One thing I have the surety that Bible is the only Bible that can interpret Bible correctly. The instrument that God has given us to understand his word is the Holy Spirit. Bible is not just English but simple words of understanding by the Holy Spirit. One thing I know for sure is that Jesus said, I will build my church..... God is building his church.....and no man can prevail.When the true revival breakforth, it will put stop to an error and truth shall be revealed in the mind of his people.

[@ChimaChindaDev]

Apostle Arome needs to go back and study the book of Hebrews carefully. He missed the whole point of the book and understood the figure of Melchizedek upside down.

[@jaytshianda]

He truly need to go back to Bible school. Most of his teaching are unbiblical

[@kingsleyawa6377]

If you are a wise person you'll realize arome submission is true why? Apst min doesnt ask for tithe neither doesn't does he teach prosperity

[@iwebdigitalbusinesssolutio7550]

You lie!

[@blankslatebluejacket]

Christ came and did it all What are they talking about?