WE KNIFE co Vision R Takes on Civivi Vision FG in Nitro V & Damascus Steel!

In this epic comparison, I dive deep into the world of high-end knives, featuring the WE KNIFE co Vision R, Civivi Vision FG in Nitro V steel, and Civivi Vision FG in Damascus Steel. Whether you're a seasoned collector or new to the knife community, this video promises an in-depth look at design, performance, and value. From the sleek design of the WE KNIFE co Vision R to the unique properties of Nitro V and Damascus steel in Civivi's Vision FG models, I'll cover everything you need to know. Join me as I put these knives to the test, providing you with all the insights to make an informed decision. Plus, don't miss our final verdict on which knife stands out as the ultimate champion in this thrilling knife
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[@alanhold2468]

Recently picked up my first Civivi in 10cr and I am really impressed. Been carrying for over 40 years but still learning loads from your videos. Thanks from London🇬🇧🙏👊

[@joshuahope1623]

This man is putting out some of the best knife content. Always informative and honest. Thanks for all you hard work Jared.

[@zackorr8381]

Agreed

[@ShoutenKen23]

Love this new style of video! I hope that we can see more testing/comparisons of different models/brands in the future! It would be cool to see 20cv/m390/204p from different companies being compared in cutting AND sharpening experience! Thank you for the great info and content!

[@wes.killed.it.5511]

Jared what you do for your viewers and the community in general is highly commendable; videos like these contain substance and truth and your effort doesn't go unnoticed. Similarly, I'd love to see a replicated 3-way face off between the Demko AD20.5 Grivory, Demko AD-20.5 full Ti, and a USA Demko AD20 in G-10 (or obviously Ti if someone has the🥜's lol). Another variable that you could consider adding would be to have the clip-point in one of the variants and the shark-foot in another. When considering the standard in which Andrew Demko locking mechanisms are praised, I think a shark-lock face off would be the cream of the crop as far as content goes. Thanks again bud💪

[@malcolmholt2010]

Cool idea on the vid. Lot of work went into this man! Thx for the content

[@MrRideslowrx]

Man what a great review. You nailed it with this testing. I personally have both models and far and away prefer the WE version due to the thinner handle profile and I also LOVE the clip on the back of the knife. I thought it was weird at first and grew to really love it (side note, the back clip won't scratch your walls or your car door if you accidentally rub up against it)

[@peen2804]

same here. the vision r clip is soooooooooo good. i feel most people trash it because theyve never actually used it or put it in their pocket for 2 seconds and said "dats weerd i dont wike it". its not only the easiest clip ive ever used but also one of the most discreet clips in existence. also the only pocket clip i can get in an out of athletic shorts and sweatpants with 1 hand. its so so good. its also supremely comfortable in hand being so neutral

[@lillydog1987]

Yeah, I'm with you. I bought my bronze WE VR almost 2 years ago for 200$ new but forgot how lol. The clip definitely grew on me, too. I know the majority disagree on that clip, definitely. With all that, I appreciate and enjoy my ultem Nitro/V version. I reckon I choose from what I think I'll be doing in that day. Personally, I lean towards my WE on the basis of it being the original, the materials used, and I like the slimmer profile coupled with the spine clip. Both are sooo dayyummn good and that's a fact.

[@nrvnfreak]

Very extensive testing, thanks for helping us make a better informed decision

[@joeyho5134]

Truly appreciate the effort you exerted on the tests and your usual honest thoughts and opinions, Jerad. Thanks for being safe as well. 😁

[@khakicampbell6640]

Dammm.. Brutal testing! 🤘😝 Stuck right in the mud, and spine whacks on cement! It was almost hard to watch lol. They all held up way better than I thought they would. Great editing on that intro by the way! 👍

[@the_average_canadian]

Great video, I like the tests and the way you presented the information. My only tiny gripe is that I think you'd benefit from an infographic at the end to sum up your results. Despite all the points you made here, I think it comes down to preference and I still prefer the WE knife version. The feel of the action and the noise that it makes when fidgeting with it is more to my liking. That said, the Civivi version is 90% of the knife for a 25% of the price. You really can't beat the value per dollar.

[@williamjones6652]

Have the Damascus version & was a little concerned it would not be up to par with the higher level steels in the rest of my collection but looks like it's a winner. This is definitely one of my favorite EDC pieces even above many of my mid to higher level knives. Keep up the great work!!!

[@grahamcairns2249]

I love all the testing. While I wince every time, it's exactly what all my knives go through in day to day use.

[@jasonmorse432]

I am waiting for the ultum version right now from Amazon to be delivered today. Found the video and am happy I chose this one. Thanks, man. Very good video.

[@user-dw2nq3zj8g]

Thank you! Extremely helpful review. Going to buy the ultem version now because of your testing!

[@CloudyShinobi]

I liked my we snex vision, but always wished it had a better detent. I fixed this issue by nesting a magnet in each scale, in line with where the blade’s tip ends up when the knife is closed. Makes a big difference and fairly straight forward

[@toddcarr.]

Interesting results, for the extra cost of the Damascus I'd stil say better off with the 14C28N or Nitro-v but if you don't mind paying extra for the pattern it's a good choice if your into the look of Damascus knives. The thicker handle is usually better feeling in hand so not surprising that the WE version is not as comfortable for long cutting sessions but for your average user I'm sure there isn't much problem with occasional cutting. The only reason to grab the WE version in this case is if you want the extra cutting or are into titanium, otherwise the budget offerings offer much better value and better overall usage. Thanks for the great vid and keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable.

[@NeevesKnives]

thank you Todd for all the Help

[@anthonysamardzija3344]

Awesome review, I'm glad I bought the white g10 Damascus when it first came out, shouting out all the way from Australia 🇦🇺

[@Paul-zp3ks]

Hows the edge holding as seen another review on the steel and its so far putting me off buying one. Love the knife shape and action hut worried on if it will hold a edge with daily abuse and use

[@ayobro3055]

@@Paul-zp3ks It's trash. I have one. Ended up selling it for the nitro v version. get the regular nitro v version or we 20cv. Civivi's damacus is so horrible. It's gimmicky, The hrc is worse too lol

[@tmille10]

Great work J Raddy! Elevating your game every time….I like the end of sentence like underbeat 🤙

[@hadleighbrewer140]

Mate, great video just saw it on adventure carry, I'm in New Zealand and it's hard for us to find a good EDC, I have got my choices down to the Civivi elementum and the vision FG, this review helped me finalise my decision, thanks bro, I'm looking forward to looking at more of your content.

[@charlescollier7217]

Thanks for this, Jared. I love the Vision FG as an EDC. It's so capable and the SuperLock is the most fun to fidget with. The Damasus also serves well as a dress up knife. Knife Center has a carbon fiber and S35VN exclusive that I want to get my hands on.

[@the_knights_edge]

Great video man! With the quality and quantity of badass vids you pump out, its a crime you don't have 10 million subs....yet! Love ya brother! Keep it up!

[@ScrubLordJenkins]

Honestly, he needs to copy what MC is doing. Live giveaways, shorts, and 1-2 videos a day would make him grow

[@LemmyGitdat]

Wow a lot of work went into this one - thanks Jerad. One day I have to get me one of these bad boys. Can't lie it hurt a little watching you throw these down the driveway.

[@otonielgarcia5406]

Thank you had to check for the only vid that had this review since they are on sale right now on Amazon for Black Friday week

[@nobody1841]

Thanks for being true to your word and doing this review

[@jamesruth100]

Would've been neat to see the s35vn vision FG in the competition as well, but this video is still super cool.

[@NeevesKnives]

yeah i didnt have that one i honestly didnt know it existed

[@jamesruth100]

@@NeevesKnives Lol, it's all good.

[@jamesruth100]

@@madrapperdave I literally own one; it's s35vn.

[@andyhayward1261]

The detent is also absolutely affected by the strength of the spring as well as the tang geometry, I cut an ad20.5 replacement spring to size so it was a bit bigger than the original spring in my WE vision and it improved the detent and action a lot

[@davidcoats1037]

Excellent video. The knife testing as well as the production and editing. Very professional! Thanks and take care 😃👍🏼

[@SharpenedSteel1]

Skimming knives is real professional. 👌

[@Reid18]

@@SharpenedSteel1Are you serious? Once you get to a certain point in KZbin subscribers, companies want to send you stuff. It’s simple economics. This guy, Jerad, wasn’t handed knives for free when he had zero subs. Also, I just don’t see how you can dislike this man. He’s a hell of a human being, not just a knife enthusiast and content creator.

[@jacobchurch6558]

MY MAN! I’ve been waiting for someone to do this. Great job!

[@enertron4976]

thank you for putting in so much effort in your videos! definitely want one of these

[@keithbrown9198]

I have the Civivi Vision FG with natural jade G10 scales. For the price (I think I got it on sale for $70), one of the best knives I own, and definitely the most fidgety! I love it! It's heavy for it's size, but that just makes it feel so solid, and weight doesn't matter to me, I'm used to carrying pistols that weigh over 2 lbs., that little 4 or 5 oz pocket knife makes no difference.

[@daveferrance7569]

Great video, some of those tests hurt to watch lol. I've got the R (in damascus) and the FG (ultem) and like them both about equally but for different reasons. The WE is more of a dress knife for me with premium materials but also a few little details that are missing in the FG (like the sculpting in the scale near the lock bar and the deployment hole). The ultem feels a lot chunkier and less refined to me but I'll usually pick it if I'm wearing jeans, because it is still a great knife, just different.

[@Rendo87]

Love this video. You should make more of these!

[@josephholtan3458]

Late comment but thanks for the awesome video Jared! Super helpful info and great fun to watch, you killed it with this one. Much appreciated!

[@dylanmoffett8723]

I love this knife. I have the black g10 w coated nitro v blade and it’s just amazing. The only complaint I have is that the stop pin sits VERY close to the edge on the choil. So I have to be careful when sharpening.

[@erbenlegend3613]

you can remove that pin on the budget one so that the spring can come out like the premium. thought it was cool you have the option.

[@Mountain.Man.1978]

I’m glad you mix in budget and expensive knives. I just anodized my Brian Brown Raptors V2 today then saw your video. Did you know Amazon has knock off ProTech knives!?

[@davidninnis5832]

OMG! In with another banger... I did have to do a bit of hiding behind the sofa though 😅

[@Eco19]

Before i even start this video: i JUST picked up the black damascus version this week because a couple weeks ago i picked up the damascus ivory version and just needed the matching set once i found out about the ds2 This video popped up SOON as i finished showing my parents the new folders I mean about 3 minutes after i showed them this came up👌👌👌

[@Eco19]

Finished the video now; i couldnt be anymore satisfied from both these purchases now I obviously already knew they are amazingly constructed But of course ive been wondering “but how good is the WE variant…” Only thing the WE won was the edge retention which is to be expected due to the steel used and with the price premium But the civivi is more than enough, zero complaints Now for your only nitpick: the clip well choking back For myself, NO MATTER how i hold the civivi(s) in my dominant hand, the clip is in an extremely comfortable position, it even helps me have a more stable grip If i use my nondominant hand then yea its a little out of place but i highly doubt i will be using my nondominant hand to use any knife much if at all lol Stellar test ✌️✌️

[@NeevesKnives]

it was meant to be

[@michaelsherman931]

Superb work, for those with the ultem, careful not to screw the hardware down too much, she'll crack

[@stuartrollings602]

Nice test..know that took a lot of time and effort to edit as well…thanks for sharing!

[@davidlagno7717]

Idk how I missed this one. Awesome video. Thanks

[@stephan123321]

Great job, great video and a great knife, thank you Jared! Stay sharp & Peace, Stephan

[@djxs666]

There's an exclusive of the Civivi version in S35VN now too, for about $140.

[@jimmylarge1148]

I think the super lock buttons are being depressed during the spine test. The impact is making the lock button pop out and unlock. Dot they aren’t broke it’s just kinda a thing with that style lock I’d say.

[@robertkidnley93]

Have you noticed the detent is kinda weak I noticed that if you whip the knife up and down the blade opens up and locks doesnt even that that much force?

[@NeevesKnives]

Yeah they don't use a traditional detent so it's on the lighter side, however the studs make it work well, Tactile has the Chupacabra that has a decent detent with same lock

[@robertkidnley93]

@@NeevesKnives oh ok I windering if there was something wrong with mine and is that what is different on the cuppa cabra I saw it when it came out and I was wondering what the difference was beside being a USA knife

[@kaizen5023]

Love the hard tests and cutting tests!

[@mattdagger1480]

I ended up getting the knife center exclusive with s35 and really like it. I love we stuff but absolutely hate 20cv/m390/204p. My absolute least favorite steel. Or I would have got the we version. Only thing I don't like about mine is the weight. Once I have to sharpen it I'm going to take it apart and lighten up the liners and put more holes in it that will be covered up by the carbon scales on mine. But other than that I love it. Oh and the pocket clip is annoying. It gets hung up on stuff I walk past sometimes because the duck bill. I may take off some material off the duck bill clip or bend that part down a little

[@AdAce21]

I'd love to know how the S35vn model fares against the standard nitro v

[@dailygearguide]

Awesome idea and execution Jared. The editing was really good to brother 👊

[@mikechijimatsu9926]

Switched the pocket clip with the Altus and what an ergonomic transformation it made for the Vision FG!!

[@mikechijimatsu9926]

My Vision FG in S35 VN came with a 22dps bevel and I sharpened it but kept the same angle to whittle hair but the edge still felt like an axe. I reprofiled the bevel to 17 dps 600 grit, ceramic hone, and 1/2 micron strop. What a Lazer razor!!!

[@tomike5126]

perfecto maestro - super hard testing and showing angle for sharpening is for me super bonus - i like this man - wonderfull work sir - thumbs up!

[@karabinas]

Your production value keeps getting better

[@TerminalM193]

I was never really a civivi fan until I came across the vision fg. First one I grabbed was the black micarta / Damascus blade. Once it arrived it was like I could see the light. Immediately ordered every single version available as well as the we knives version. They're literally perfect EXCEPT for that damn pocket clip.....

[@NeevesKnives]

hell yeah

[@Judgement_Kazzy]

To be fair, i think the main reason the civivis have the better design is because they're the newer model. It would be cool to see a premium Vision-FG in the future though.

[@EnriqueScott-se3vp]

Vision Carbon Fiber S35VN I've got on my wish list for Christmas 2024. I just purchased PM2 in S45VN for my B.D. 🎉

[@kforty9568]

Nice review my friend. I did some KnathansKnives scales and added the ti clip. With the ti clip being moved up by a bit really helps. Peace!

[@chacehawkins4708]

Please do a qsp penguin comparison of the d2 one, 14c, S35vn. Thanks

[@NeevesKnives]

👊

[@MichaelKepple-tx4go]

Outstanding test and results. I have a vision fg in s35vn and curious how it would compare

[@NeevesKnives]

It would last in-between the nitro and 20cv,

[@bestofnyc]

Such good content my guy, good stuff to know. You definitely are a cut above the rest🍻

[@Vektorion]

Is there a civivi vision with a normal liner lock ?

[@aNAT01i]

Idk why anybody would want that, but Civivi Ki-V Plus is somewhat similar to Vision FG

[@PatHappyDay]

Any Idea why the Ultem was tuffer ??? I mean it's the same great lock ...!!

[@NeevesKnives]

As far as lock it’s just the geometry of lock

[@PatHappyDay]

@@NeevesKnives U mean that lock geometry ain't same between the Damascus & the Ultem..?

[@EnriqueScott-se3vp]

I like to see a review on this one Civiv Vision CF next time PS I always look forward to your reviews yes I am a subscriber

[@comradecracker447]

Got I want that ultem one so bad😭been wanting it since last full year? Damn…

[@chrisdyck6524]

I simply screwed the clip from the Böker Magnum blue Jay onto the Civivi Vision fg. Visually, in terms of feel and in everyday life, it fits perfectly. 😅🤷‍♂️👍

[@ak4dreday]

That beat is nice man , maybe fade a little more while talking and then bring it back up but I love it man!

[@wgkincheloe2458]

I need Damascus and WE versions. FG was my top knife purchase last year

[@EnriqueScott-se3vp]

Civiv Conspirator Damascus button lock flipper is still holding the edge and I've had it since it first came out years ago.

[@christianbureau6732]

That my next knife, I love the blade shape and the lock system.

[@truf232]

My civivi vision is my favorite knife to edc really want to get the WE version

[@EmilioBarnaby]

Can anyone tell me please What is the best or top3 Japanese stone that make the best mirror edge unless Naniwa professional. Now I have just these stone Suehiro 8000w grit King 6000 grit King 4000 grit Shapton rockstar 2000 grit (new version on Shapton glass) King deluxe 1000 grit Atoma 400 grit Should​ I buy some stone for more, to make better mirror edge than like I have. Now I look at Shapton kuromaku 12000 grit but I'm not sure if that's better than Suehiro 8000. Sorry if my bad words, my English is not good enough. 😢

[@NeevesKnives]

if you want the best its not going to be from Japan but i like King from Japan, however only for chef or simple steels never for high grade steels, in that case you want diamond, my favorite is resin bonded or metal bonded diamond i have tons of sharpening videos, but i would stay away from the Naniwa Super stones, go with there resin bonded that would be the best from Japan

[@EmilioBarnaby]

@@NeevesKnives My highest I have just S45VN and cruwear, It's not too much hard steel. What brand of stone do you recommend for glass edge? And how many for any grit? Big thanks for your answer

[@marklex414]

Thanks! I appreciate the spine whacks!

[@niceguyb1]

Fantastic video. adding civiv to cart now

[@NeevesKnives]

Go for it!

[@CaptChet81]

Great video brother I've been wanting one of them but can't decide if the We is worth the extra money

[@repbydesign16]

Great vid, deserves waaaaaay more views!

[@LonnieHutchinson90]

Thank you I’ve been itching to watch this!

[@NeevesKnives]

No problem!!

[@arsonne]

The damascus actually looked so cool with the worn look imo. Right out of the box it just looks kind of like a coating with white lines on it rather than damascus.

[@macmazi36]

I agree on the clip on the budget version position for how present the clip is terrible. I switched it to a mini sheep dog clip and it is perfect now. Civivi definitely needs to change their pocket clips

[@jocemarine6247]

Hello Jared. Congratulations for your very good videos I have 2 questions for you. How can you explain that the Damascus failed and the Nitro V did not ?🤔 It's the same knife ? And let's say that the Vision fg will be discontinued in 10-15 years from now. Will it worth at least the suggested retail price of today ? If it's discontinued will it take à little value ? Thank you 👍🏻

[@NeevesKnives]

Lock face geometry is why, you can have 2 similar locks and one strong one weak from the geometry of the lock face, the value would go down unless you got an actual Snex design but it's hard to say for sure some pieces like this sometimes surprise you

[@joet81]

Hey jerad, i would love to see some testing with a knife with a bad heat treat vs good heat treat!

[@HeartMarksman]

What brand of jeans are those?

[@zachjablow599]

Hey so good video, just want to point out the text on your thumbnail is backwards to the order the knives are shown.

[@NeevesKnives]

Yeah I know it was originally switched but somehow it went back to original and now I don't have the photo anymore without re creating

[@zachjablow599]

@@NeevesKnives All good dude! Just wasn't sure if you knew. Thanks for making cool videos!

[@Tatterdsoul]

Mad respect. Don’t say it enough. Mad….RESPECT.

[@AaronRobinProductions]

I own both but for me the action of the premium one feels better. Feels higher quality.

[@watchcityknives]

Great video very enjoyable and informative and very interesting. Thank you 🙏 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@dustinewing7974]

Thanks for the video! Did you know there's a Knifecenter Vision FG in s35vn??? :)

[@j.savage1228]

I have all 3 and I prefer to carry the Civivi in ultem. Mainly because my WE is the damasteel version that lives in my safe lol. The pocket clip is pretty weird on the WE also. Civivi’s heat treat on their Nitro V is 2nd to none.

[@rays5163]

The thing about Ultem is that unlike g10 and micarta it was actually developed by NASA. So while it does seem like just plastic... it's that good plastic.

[@jarod9793]

Watching this to decide between the Damascus or not. Seems like for the extra $10 or so Bucks I’m gonna go with the civivi in Damascus

[@mikereese15]

Awesome testing

[@4d4mko]

Love that format man! Super cool!

[@spacecowboy301]

My favorite vision is the carbon fiber s35vn fg version, it's $140, almost double the price of the cheapest version, but worth it in my opinion

[@adamzappia2213]

Can’t say I’m a fan of the Vision models after having tried both We and Civivi versions. Great video though! Just over a week ago I got a Vision R and at the same time had a Civivi version delivered to me for a friend, so I had that in my possession for long enough to compare how they felt side by side. I already sold my Vision R, hated the feel of the lock “nub”, even more so on the Vision R, but wasn’t a fan of either. Just felt uncomfortable to use. I found the action more annoying than “fidgety”, and while the We was beautifully made it just was not for me - this all comes down to personal taste I guess, but it’s put me off of trying a Demko AD20 as I don’t know if I’d find the shark lock action too similar. While it was briefly entertaining, I didn’t love the fact that without touching the lock bar I could flick the blade out if holding the knife at the right angle and using enough force, so was unsurprised to see them open in the video when dropped. Quite honestly I get more enjoyment out of my K390 Delica wharnie with Lynch NW titanium scale kit, despite it being a boring back lock. I did like the feel of the top mounted pocket clip of the We in the hand though. Think I’ll happily add a few more Sebenzas to the collection eventually: they are more my thing... but I’m still looking for something a bit more fidgety to mess around with as well, but for me the Visions are not it. Luckily theres plenty of options out there.

[@wesleysnider2915]

Awesome test 🎉

[@Studat]

The We clip is killer and won't scratch your car. It's almost a hidden carry which is fantastic where I live.

[@richlpz]

My FG came with a sqeak. A tiny drop of knife lube on the spring fixed it.

[@mynamesjeff347]

Great testing , the driveway test makes me cringe tho lol bad memories

[@ClintCoon1976]

Oh, this will make people cry. My personal input is the Civivi Damascus is lack luster. (Vision and Amirite are my basis)

[@ClintCoon1976]

Sorry. Doing a play by play. The Civivi milled TI clip was a great addition to this. My experience with the Civivi Damascus was on the factory edge, the tip went flat quick from utility cuts.

[@NeevesKnives]

yeah factory edges tend to do that, after 2 good sharpenings it will be better

[@Lonewolfmike]

I have absolutely no problem with the pocket clip position. It doesn't bother me at all.

[@chrisjohnson9542]

I love the looks and prive of the civivi version. I dont like the look of that spine mounted pocket clip on the WE. It just seems so unproductive, inefficient, and awkward. I love the look of the flytanium arcade which has the shark lock. I think that is a really cool knife too.

[@Mountain.Man.1978]

Well I ordered the Damascus Vision. Thanks for talking me into a new knife!😂

[@sman5517]

That's the one I bought.. you'll love it! If you enjoy that locking system and are interested in a more premium knife.. check out the arcade by flytanium. Similar knife but everything is just better.

[@NeevesKnives]

you got it